Simon Jordan ACCUSED Of 'HYPOCRISY' In Debate About Chelsea's FFP Situation 😱😤

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Ай бұрын

Simon Jordan and Jim White were joined by Stefan Borson to discuss the latest on Chelsea's FFP situation.
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@JJbyo Ай бұрын

This guy supposed to know the rules but keeps waffling and giving semantic answers. He is not saying straight answers

@user-md9sp5nc2c Ай бұрын

exactly haha that’s all he does

@tomianhotom2661 Ай бұрын

He knows what he’s talking about

@Ben_Gunner Ай бұрын

You mean making statements without any substance? Ironic..

@FredEmberg4444 Ай бұрын

Hes also a patronizing smug hobbit. Lawyers are such parasites.

@BlitzMCR Ай бұрын

@@Ben_Gunner says a guy in the KZbin comment section 😂

@benv1284 Ай бұрын

Simon is a laughing stock

@kernowchris Ай бұрын

hmmm, not really. HIs job is to be provocative.

@ger1793 Ай бұрын

Stefan’s just smarter than Simon plain and simple 😂

@infi702 Ай бұрын

i've never seen simon talk so little as when borson is on

@alexlanemusic Ай бұрын

Maybe because Borson literally is explaining stuff. Hence this video.

@infi702 Ай бұрын

@@alexlanemusicit's an education for SJ

@anderbean2945 Ай бұрын

Stefan is the financial expert Simon Jordan portrays to the listeners, still educated; just not in management/financial accounting

@MaterLacrymarum Ай бұрын

Except Simon has been more right than Borson. Borson was saying Chelsea were sunk due to FFP. Simon suggested otherwise. Now look where we are.

@user-md9sp5nc2c Ай бұрын

@@MaterLacrymarumit was the other way around lol

@backupdancer3720 Ай бұрын

I work in regulated financial services, and I am telling anyone who doesn't... This was always the problem when you welcomed financial professionals and lawyers into the game... Football is now being flooded with poachers turned gamekeepers.

@marditoon1128 Ай бұрын

I love when Stefan Borson is on. He always makes Simon feel and look like a guy who isnt as smart as he thinks he is. This only happens with Borson and Eddie Hearn on boxing. You can't be a arrogant chatterbox when your counterpart has more knowledge.

@kevingates8339 Ай бұрын

But he’s been wrong nearly every time he’s been on

@marditoon1128 Ай бұрын

@@kevingates8339 No he hasn't 🤣🤣🤣 Give me the examples you're talking about.

@Blobonator8000 Ай бұрын

@@kevingates8339 Instead of writing mindless nonsense, just say you are a united/arsenal/liverpool fan. It's much easier

@beepeeayy Ай бұрын

@@Blobonator8000what's arsenal fans got to do with this ?

@Blobonator8000 Ай бұрын

@@beepeeayy another big club that is begging for city to get sanctioned into oblivion so they can win a trophy. Don't like Borson because he speaks sense about FFP charges and doesn't peddle the usual nonsense about city being 100% guilty. Same as United and Liverpool fans

@ste4392 Ай бұрын

Simon? Hypocrisy? Surely not

@johnhopkinson4054 Ай бұрын

Comparing Wolves and Chelsea location for sale of property assets and increase in value is moronic. Wolverhampton is just another city within the midlands yet Chelsea is in the most exclusive and sought after part of London, it's like comparing and ant to an elephant in terms of annual increase in value.

@interstellarbeatteller9306 Ай бұрын

The point is that Wolves/Newc could sell their property to themselves, and keep the income from the property. What Chelsea are doing is basically illegal in any line of business

@dillcarver7731 Ай бұрын

assets is assets

@AM2K2 Ай бұрын

@@interstellarbeatteller9306 There must be a profit between what they paid and the increased value though. To prove this you need comparable sales - they will have that in London...not in Wolverhampton.

@jordanbrooks4834 Ай бұрын

@@interstellarbeatteller9306basically illegal?😂 what this highly publicised sale is illegal? Just think before you start yapping I beg

@jordanbrooks4834 Ай бұрын

@@interstellarbeatteller9306basically illegal?😂 what this highly publicised sale is illegal? Just think before you start yapping I beg

@danielneary8091 Ай бұрын

Stefan Borson just sat there with his cigar in enjoying the show

@frasierfreak92 Ай бұрын

Stefan Borson knows nothing 😂

@tomben6180 Ай бұрын

@@frasierfreak92He’s the number 1 expert on ffpr

@mnb9162 Ай бұрын

Hotels are included in FFP?..... So football clubs can get involed in any business and claim it as income?

@MrBrasserie Ай бұрын

Theyre Business not a sports club so I guess so

@John...44... Ай бұрын

Of course they can. Any business that the football club own is part of their profit and loss

@mnb9162 Ай бұрын

@@John...44... Surely Man city would just open up a chain of property, hotels etc to avoid FFP?

@John...44... Ай бұрын

@@mnb9162 possibly. Butnit only works if the valuations are increasing

@muppstrom 7 күн бұрын

If you sell beer, stadium tours and hotel nights you can include that too Its a way to make revenue and profit for the club...

@rjb10101 Ай бұрын

The hypocrisy is within the suits at the Premier league...

@lilbaz8073 Ай бұрын

For following the rules the clubs set out and voted to bring in? No the hypocrisy is clubs breaking those rules then crying it's unfair when they get punished.

@vishnuviswanathan1604 Ай бұрын

They raised 2.5 billion, they are smart u guys. CFC for life.

@paulfarr7 Ай бұрын

Just taking the absolute piss now.

@alexlanemusic Ай бұрын

I hope SJ is the top paid Talksport member. The amount of videos and clickbait they grind out of his name is mad. I hope he’s the top paid.

@enockowl681 Ай бұрын

Keep you up at night does it ?

@DaleSteel Ай бұрын

Top clobber

@paulpurves484 Ай бұрын

You have a point

@pauldowney4280 Ай бұрын

Everyone forgets that city owners had to sell 15 percent of the club to Chinese investors for 250 million so they could invest in the club

@TheWiseJames Ай бұрын

I have always thought of Simon as a hypocrite when he said the Middle East was diluting boxing with its money, which is ironic because previous to that the UK and USA diluting boxes with money

@adammohamed.. Ай бұрын

I agree that boxers should fight around the world that’s why they have World titles. They did try that before with rumble in the jungle on thriller in Manila in the 70s. But Predominantly the best boxes have been from the UK & US so you can’t make the allegation against them as that’s where the fan base it. The Saudi issue is an interesting one because I would say to you if Saudi isn’t there why won’t we get certain fights? You fight for the money that you can generate , the issue now is perhaps people might think their money is inflated because of Saudi.

@TheWiseJames Ай бұрын

@@adammohamed.. the point was simon is a hypocrite lol.

@Rodney231 Ай бұрын

Just further proves how much of hypocrite Simon Jordan.... whenever he gets called out for his hypocrisy he says " I don't think that's exactly what I said"....then starts yapping a bunch of nonsense......it's clear as day that a narrative is being pushed that money from some places are "clean" and from other places it is "dirty".....an action is being deemed clever or detrimental based on the region the club owner originates from .

@leonenarwani7258 Ай бұрын

Simon jordan got owned

@Paul-bodge Ай бұрын

Simon is a massive 🛎️ end

@gavincunningham4598 Ай бұрын

Does this mean then clubs could start selling parts of new stadium builds to themselves

@polyglot8 Ай бұрын

The huge, active and liquid London property market may be one of the easiest places in the world to determine fair market value, whereas determining fair market value of a player being sold to Saudi Arabia is extremely subjective, to say the least.

@bigbirdcage753 Ай бұрын

Simon is a Todd Boehly asset

@bernardfox9078 Ай бұрын

This guy knows what he is talking about, unlike Mr Jordan who claims to know.

@pauldowney4280 Ай бұрын

If its not against the rules then cool, the fans are sick of all this FFP, clubs should be left to run their clubs how they see fit.

@willtallis5275 Ай бұрын

Which is the problem they don’t run them properly when left do what they like

@John...44... Ай бұрын

Clubs should be run in a sensible way, and not just play things of rich foreneigners who want to buy glory. FFP will turn out to be a good thing once aall the clubs get their act together

@Luke-ih2wt Ай бұрын

Steffan reminds me of Randall from recess.

@petershrive416 Ай бұрын

All scared of Newcastle

@pauldowney4280 Ай бұрын

Does that mean city can sell 30 percent of the club to a company owned by the current owners??

@jordanbrooks4834 Ай бұрын

Is 30% of the club a sellable asset with a fair market value? Or can you not listen you just wanna make wildly immaculate statements because it’s what you want in the end?😂

@petersmith2522 Ай бұрын

There making our game boring its like the tories are running football ruining football like the country

@nickgoatham7981 Ай бұрын

Exactly, if you've got enough money, you'll find a way.

@lfcspectre4335 Ай бұрын

Sir Simon = Top LAD Proper Clobber 🙌

@kennywilkinson913 Ай бұрын

You should have been swallowed

@oj8198 27 күн бұрын

Derby apparently did this now look

@superphrank4804 Ай бұрын

Looks like Jim has finally found an "expert" who will say that Chelsea will fail FFP or FSR. Took him long enough.

@um931 Ай бұрын

Simon has a problem with who the owner of a club is rather than their particular dealings.

@Barbariansdagger Ай бұрын

Borson when asking Chelsea to be charged:Wolverine mode! Borson when someone brings up 115 FC: Weasel mode!

@tomben6180 Ай бұрын

Borson was the first one to say City will be relegated if found guilty of the serious charges? He just says he thinks it’s unlikely City have done it because the accusations are so ridiculous

@Barbariansdagger Ай бұрын

@@tomben6180 Sure 115 accusations but somehow they are innocent yet they refused to cooperate. You sure Santa is made up and not real?lol

@tomben6180 Ай бұрын

@@Barbariansdagger Shows how much you know. It’s 2/3 accusations depending on how you want to split it. It duplicates in the rulebook. Everton had 20+ charges for 1 thing!

@Barbariansdagger Ай бұрын

@@tomben6180 Blah blah keep defending the corrupts. You support oil because your brain is oil. Next!

@user-rn9co7jc4t Ай бұрын

So 116 charges just slip under the rug😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

@robertmclellan3658 Ай бұрын

Probably because the hapless premier league knows it will never ever be able to prove their bogus allegations.

@jordanbrooks4834 Ай бұрын

Mate give it a rest 😂 it doesn’t matter who you support why are you crying about Man City’s charges that are LITERALLY being investigated. Don’t be so naive and say “Everton & forrest” Pish, if you walk up to someone in broad day light on cctv and shoot them with 100’s of witnesses you’ll be locked up and sent to prison as soon as you walk into a court room right? It’s cut and shut you have no defence you have been caught with your pants around your ankles.. if you hid 115 different murders, covered up evidence, and was never caught red handed but arrested as a suspect pending investigation you would not be sentenced until the evidence was heard in court and a conviction reached. Do you think these courts are stupid? Do you think the people earning millions at the top on both sides are not smart people? 1 side are trying their hardest to cover their tracks the others are trying to find a mistake, Everton and forrest were not smart they made terrible decisions and their punishments have been given out justifiably. If you’re THAT pressed about Man City not being charged within a time frame that suits you why don’t you train to be a lawyer and offer the assist the premier league free of charge in their pursuit of Man City? No? Shut up and wait then stop begging for a down fall so your Team most likely arsenal or Liverpool can win without beating the best team in the country/world, it’s embarrassing mate.

@robertmclellan3658 Ай бұрын

@@jordanbrooks4834 Well said Jordon perfectly put.

@jordanbrooks4834 Ай бұрын

@@robertmclellan3658 can I ask am I talking to THE rob McClellan? “Jock”? 😮 incredible coincidence if I’m not, but if I am it’s good to hear from you again bud, and I hope all is well (regardless if we’ve met before or not I still hope all is well rob😂🤝)

@robertmclellan3658 Ай бұрын

@@jordanbrooks4834 No afraid not.

@frasierfreak92 Ай бұрын

Stefan Borson, the man who knows so much about FFP but keeps saying City are innocent because he supports them 😂😂😂😂

@tomben6180 Ай бұрын

He states the truth, City were found not guilty at CAS and the evidence is still online now. He just says he doesn’t think the Premier League are capable of proving something of that nature and that it’s unlikely City will have committed fraud on an international level. It’s the sensible position.

@frasierfreak92 Ай бұрын

@@tomben6180 No they were never found not guilty. They got huge fines and the rest was time barred. CAS specifically criticised City multiple times for refusing to engage in the investigations and trying to hamper them.

@tomben6180 Ай бұрын

@@frasierfreak92 Incorrect. They were found not guilty on the actual charges. They reduced the fine for non cooperation from £50m to £8m, such was the case that CAS believed City had a legitimate reason for stopping cooperation. Here, I’ll provide you with direct quotes from report: CAS Report “Manchester City did not disguise equity as Sponsorship”. Also CAS Report “Not only do we find that the Etihad sponsorship payments are exactly as set out in the contract, this court also finds them to be of fair value”. “Therefore this court overrules UEFA’s guilty finding and two year competition ban for MCFC”.

@danielrobins6497 Ай бұрын

Disappointing from Simon. This was a great opportunity for him to just admit he's wrong and being hypocritical. He knows he wrong

@David-xy2ly Ай бұрын

Lots of club will be buying hotels instead of players lol sell hotels to themselves after a year

@kennywilkinson913 Ай бұрын

Did Jim just MC at the start

@jackh3071 Ай бұрын

It just goes to show ffp was made to help the big clubs out and make it impossible for smaller teams to compete

@matt7matt722 Ай бұрын

Bingo !

@willtallis5275 Ай бұрын

It was voted for tho

@matt7matt722 Ай бұрын

@@willtallis5275 What we're the options is the real question? It's was designed in such a way that the smaller clubs would definitely not benefit.

@willtallis5275 Ай бұрын

@@matt7matt722 but they also voted for it I know it doesn't work but neither does letting an owner do what he likes so where is the middle ground for everyone I don't know but it didbt work beofew and doesn't work now

@matt7matt722 Ай бұрын

@willtallis5275 Yes agreed, there needs to be a middle ground but in any industry. Putting off willing investors is never a good idea.

@user-sp5pi9pg6x Ай бұрын

Are chelseas finances a lot more dire then there letting on

@possessedslig Ай бұрын

this sport has lost all its charm

@nickgoatham7981 Ай бұрын

The vast part of the show was about finance and legalities. It had very little to do with sport, this will ramble on, fuelling accountants and lawyers. Big part of sports fans have little knowledge or interest. As the old saying goes, money the root of all evil.

@simonrb1942 Ай бұрын

"I haven't been a hypocrite, but I call some of the richest businessmen in the world useful idiots" Idiots that could buy Microsoft, Tesla and Facebook with pocket change.

@scottsykes5365 Ай бұрын

Chelsea are gangsters, whether that's under Roman or Boehly! Whether people like it or not Chelsea will be an absolute power house in the not too distant future. Anyone who thinks the people who bought Chelsea have ruined the club and deemed them failures and expects them to continue finishing mid table for the next few years are either very immature, naive or both!

@stuartgoodwin3876 Ай бұрын

What about the Saudis killing people. Much worst not mentioned.

@jonathanward7320 Ай бұрын

If Chelsea can sell their hotels to their own owners to get around FFP, then Newcastle should sell the deadwood players like Matt Ritchie, Paul Dummett, Jamal Lewis, Jeff Hendrick, Ryan Fraser, Isaac Hayden and Mark Gillespie all to the four owned PIF clubs to get them off the books at an inflated price so we can invest into the squad. It’s all perfectly in the rules so.

@markcfc-qf1mg Ай бұрын

They already sold saint maximum 2 a pif club so what's the difference apart from its a hotel and not a player

@mishradd Ай бұрын

These guys love talking about Chelsea and money and how they are evil. They don't care about football in Chelsea, when it comes football they immediately jump to Manu to complain

@Akinwalesegun Ай бұрын

Selling hotel and selling players arent the same time, but what fo you expext from those nobheads up north

@rybly Ай бұрын

The guest is/was on Man City's payroll right? So not an objective viewpoint.

@tomben6180 Ай бұрын

No, he was an independent contractor who advised City at a senior level up until 2007 before the new owners came in. You can say he’s not objective but he admits that up front and presents the facts. He was also the first Individual to mention relegation as a possible punishment for City and he got hammered by City fans for that.