Simon Jordan CLASHES With 'Fair Game' CEO On Whether FOOTBALL NEEDS An Independent REGULATOR 😡🔥

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@TheTruth8767
@TheTruth8767 2 ай бұрын
I’m with Simon on this one
@SteveAustin-zv1nn
@SteveAustin-zv1nn 2 ай бұрын
Me too. More regulation is never a good idea. Unless you're a communist.
@dangraham8473
@dangraham8473 2 ай бұрын
The UK government make a mess of everything, so what makes them think they're going to be able to help football
@robertmclellan3658
@robertmclellan3658 2 ай бұрын
Surely they can’t be as bad as the corrupt Premier League?
@floydweller3085
@floydweller3085 2 ай бұрын
Once the government and politician are involve its not gonna work out
@lewisjohnston7077
@lewisjohnston7077 2 ай бұрын
They couldn't help a bath
@Adultaffirmations
@Adultaffirmations 2 ай бұрын
@@lewisjohnston7077 Help a Bath?
@watsoncrick3210
@watsoncrick3210 2 ай бұрын
Labour ruin it
@Punk1984Rock
@Punk1984Rock 2 ай бұрын
The fact he can't even explain what he means by "fairness" says everything.
@kernowchris
@kernowchris 2 ай бұрын
Not really. If anything, Jordan is being reductive.
2 ай бұрын
​@@kernowchrisbut it's true. What's fair. Man city and Chelsea didn't have regulations and spent for decades, now we want everyone to have a level playing field..... Is that fair to Aston villa or Newcastle? Revenue alone allows a disparity, how does allowing the most successful clubs to spend more than the least make it fair?
@LionKingMCFC
@LionKingMCFC 2 ай бұрын
​@kernowchrisbut united, Liverpool, Arsenal didn't have it when during their most successful times.
2 ай бұрын
@@LionKingMCFC but they all spent money too . They've established themselves before any financial fair play came in.We have a disparity in the settled club status. All it's going to do is keep the top clubs top and the rest where they are. Wonder why elite don't want this to change.
2 ай бұрын
@@kernowchris not really
@golfer5636
@golfer5636 2 ай бұрын
Simon has been warning of this since the beginning
@bignallend1
@bignallend1 2 ай бұрын
The government need a regulator before football
@StuartRead-tv6fn
@StuartRead-tv6fn 2 ай бұрын
True😂
@SteviG9
@SteviG9 2 ай бұрын
they want to regulate everybody and everything but themselves...
@Ocelot35
@Ocelot35 Ай бұрын
What like... a government? Good idea! Let's regulate the regulators. That'll learn em.
@SteviG9
@SteviG9 Ай бұрын
@@Ocelot35 that story is old news, you only comment now, you need a regulator for your feed
@Ocelot35
@Ocelot35 Ай бұрын
@@SteviG9 Sorry, Stevi.
@dm_invest43
@dm_invest43 2 ай бұрын
Sustainability = protectionism. The regulator would protect the 92 clubs in the league not the grass roots. In business, hungry well run companies will grow and replace lazy complacent companies as they go out of business. Why can’t this happen in football? If a Bury goes out of business they will be replaced by a Wrexham or a Forest Green for example.
@paulsmyth3580
@paulsmyth3580 2 ай бұрын
Yeah sounds like taxpayers could be the cash cow to keep bad owners a float.
@Punk1984Rock
@Punk1984Rock 2 ай бұрын
Redistribution of wealth....all sounds very labour party to me
@TheKh65
@TheKh65 2 ай бұрын
As opposed to budget cuts and less tax for the rich?
@cafu-thebrazilianalanhutto6835
@cafu-thebrazilianalanhutto6835 2 ай бұрын
Are you happy seeing the same teams win every year then?
@therationalmale2.09
@therationalmale2.09 2 ай бұрын
​@@cafu-thebrazilianalanhutto6835is Yeah clubs like Man Utd and Liverpool should share their revenues with clubs like Burnley, clown idea
@markglendinning3956
@markglendinning3956 2 ай бұрын
@@therationalmale2.09they already do, and have since the Football League started in 1888. Nothing funnier than daft sods on the internet commenting on things they know nothing about
@L1am21
@L1am21 Ай бұрын
Man United and liverpool weren't in the football league in 1888 daft sod!
@iRoppa
@iRoppa 2 ай бұрын
This independent regulator thing is sounding more and more like sports communism. This is gonna end badly.
@ThatGuy-tx4vm
@ThatGuy-tx4vm 2 ай бұрын
Governmentalisation of private businesses basically.
@YahaRegard
@YahaRegard 2 ай бұрын
tory, crawl back in ur hole. thank god for Sir Kier and the voting public!
@jackdelacey2505
@jackdelacey2505 2 ай бұрын
I've always thought this
@MrWillyMrBrightside
@MrWillyMrBrightside 2 ай бұрын
hahahahaha what? I don't remember Karl Marx writing about this hahahahahahahahahahahaha
@bud1876
@bud1876 2 ай бұрын
100% my exact thoughts 👍
@AlunJC
@AlunJC 2 ай бұрын
Not always keen, but this is where Simon’s knowledge, insight, experience, attitude and opinion is gold.
@TheSAG1
@TheSAG1 2 ай бұрын
Leave sport out of politicians hands. They cant be trusted.
@russellward4624
@russellward4624 2 ай бұрын
And billionaires can be trusted?
@darryllloyd6660
@darryllloyd6660 2 ай бұрын
Fair!!! Load of liberal nonsense.
@jonathanmarkham1998
@jonathanmarkham1998 2 ай бұрын
The concept of being fair is not nonsense. Sure, it’s often impractical but come on.
@tomrado1687
@tomrado1687 2 ай бұрын
Tell that to a club going under. Fair Game doesn't mean communism lol. It means a framework much like banking industry needed after 2008. Minority of powerful humans can't be trusted! We want our CLUBS to REMAIN! Fair Game aren't asking for Arsenal to get relegated to League 2 ffs.
@jonathanmarkham1998
@jonathanmarkham1998 2 ай бұрын
@@tomrado1687 You can’t compare it to the banking industry. If that had been allowed to go under everyone and I mean everyone would suffer substantially. If a few clubs go under that’s only natural and imo not worth a blanket bailout. Also, as much as I support my team, I don’t own them. They’re not our clubs, no matter how much we might like to tell ourselves that. Also, the value of competition is so inherent to sports that to artificially level out clubs regardless of performance surely defeats the whole spirit of the game, if that’s what you’re concerned with. There’s plenty of arguments how much sustainability should be enforced in football and to what extent, but we also have to realise that without any risk there is no gain. The English football league system didn’t grow to being arguably the best in the world just by being sustainable.
@tomrado1687
@tomrado1687 2 ай бұрын
@@jonathanmarkham1998 same for if half the lower league clubs were left to go bankrupt. It's an ecosystem.
@FelixGallardo1946
@FelixGallardo1946 2 ай бұрын
An Independent Regulator is being thrown around by people who have absolutely zero Idea about Football and how Football Clubs are run. Simon is spot on.
@jonathanmarkham1998
@jonathanmarkham1998 2 ай бұрын
First of all, the idea of a truly independent regulator is a misnomer in practice, so we might as well just call it what it is, which is a form of government involvement, even if somewhat indirectly. I largely agree with Simon here, but I don’t think a regulator is inherently a bad thing. I just think the expectations Niall has are unrealistic and unworkable in football.
@electickjo
@electickjo 2 ай бұрын
Fair game is a waste of time…..
@georgethompson453
@georgethompson453 2 ай бұрын
Keep socialism out of football
@MrWillyMrBrightside
@MrWillyMrBrightside 2 ай бұрын
Hahahaha how is this socialism you wally
@darrenporter1850
@darrenporter1850 2 ай бұрын
​@@MrWillyMrBrightsideGovernment has a Socialist ideology. Start with that.
@cafu-thebrazilianalanhutto6835
@cafu-thebrazilianalanhutto6835 2 ай бұрын
Cant believe people would rather watch teams win leagues 11x in a row rather than a more equal league. 99.9% football clubs lose many millions per year as they spend far more to get ahead of the others, but no because its communism its bad
@MrWillyMrBrightside
@MrWillyMrBrightside 2 ай бұрын
@@cafu-thebrazilianalanhutto6835 karl Marx: "workers of the world unite, you have nothing to lose but your chains, and you will have an infinite supply of barclaysmen compilations"
@oliverhenn4219
@oliverhenn4219 2 ай бұрын
Out of football and OUT OF SOCIETY. Socialism is Filth!!
@Looney-toon
@Looney-toon 2 ай бұрын
Regulate the championship and below, plenty of money in the PL, government needs to stay out, I'm with Simon on this one, our government couldn't organise a piss up in a brewery and we are letting them make decisions on our clubs 🤦
@ThatGuy-tx4vm
@ThatGuy-tx4vm 2 ай бұрын
Exactly. It is funny how most rational people might guess that at some level the FA(as well as other national federations of football) MIGHT be corrupt... So the proposed solution is for the government to get involved... Only there is no doubt about the government being corrupt. People forget that at the end of the day the regulators will still be british people just like the current establishment of football are british people.
@blinkin78
@blinkin78 2 ай бұрын
The word INDEPENDENT really is wasted on you isn’t it?
@QuentinMajor
@QuentinMajor 2 ай бұрын
​@@blinkin78If you're naïve enough to think this regulator will actually be independent, I don't know what to tell you.
@paulchristiepureblood146
@paulchristiepureblood146 2 ай бұрын
​@blinkin78 Surely you are not dumb enough to think the government won't get involved and destroy our beautiful game?
@blinkin78
@blinkin78 2 ай бұрын
@@QuentinMajor the Bank of England has been independent for the last 15 years and stopped the country from going broke AGAINST Liz trusses wishes. That doesn’t fit into your paranoia though
@stevenmilburn3875
@stevenmilburn3875 2 ай бұрын
This sounds a lot like levelling down rather than up
@filosofastone1442
@filosofastone1442 2 ай бұрын
The biggest cost in a club is player salaries: 1. If you cap wages you lose the ability to attract players 2. If you don’t have the best players, the quality of the product goes down 3. If you go through with this the EPL will be shytte
@dariushbehradmehr9515
@dariushbehradmehr9515 2 ай бұрын
Simon destroyed him here 😂
@awcarpetsflooring9380
@awcarpetsflooring9380 2 ай бұрын
Brighton are successful, because they're run well ! Ownership is key
@ozjob
@ozjob 2 ай бұрын
Not really you got bailed out by Chelsea.
@agentancelotti2985
@agentancelotti2985 2 ай бұрын
A club that’s never won anything is not successful🫣
@medievelknevil8716
@medievelknevil8716 2 ай бұрын
@@agentancelotti2985that depends on how you measure success! And to be in the premier league in my opinion is being successful, but they are not just in the prem they have established themselves as a well run competitive team in the prem, so I would say they are having more success than, say Everton. Not every team can go after the biggest accolades so to them they measure success on more realistic goals, those of which they have been achieving. Ask players or fans from other lower leagues if they thing they are successful
@phillydavison
@phillydavison 2 ай бұрын
Brighton are in debt aren't they.
@awcarpetsflooring9380
@awcarpetsflooring9380 2 ай бұрын
@@agentancelotti2985 they're successful In the context of the video numb nuts . I didn't say they have won anything . Top prem clubs with far more money are copying their model . Point being it's not about how much money you have , spend . It's how the club is run that's important. (Context) you obviously can't seem to understand .
@johnpower29
@johnpower29 2 ай бұрын
The FA, the PL, the EFL, UEFA. How many regulators do we need?
@monkofknowledgestan
@monkofknowledgestan 2 ай бұрын
None of these are independent regulators. They regulate their own product. They've got biases towards their own product and are not interested in fair. They're only interested in growth and they'll be happy to stomp on anyone to achieve their goals, regardless of fairness.
@ThatGuy-tx4vm
@ThatGuy-tx4vm 2 ай бұрын
​@@monkofknowledgestanbut how do you define independent??? It doesn't exist in todays world. If a regulator is added then it will be comprised of people... People with interests and possibly corruptible. Only consequences can heal these things... Be independent or else.
@peterfrancis7
@peterfrancis7 2 ай бұрын
​@ThatGuy-tx4vm You sound like a dumber version of Jordan mate. Independent is independent..Of course it exists in today's world.
@stevec6232
@stevec6232 2 ай бұрын
Isnt this the FAs job?
@kipp1231
@kipp1231 2 ай бұрын
FA fat cats are more interested in dipping their bread in club owners gravy.
@belldracka
@belldracka 2 ай бұрын
That’s what I was wondering.
@grahamtctravels8380
@grahamtctravels8380 2 ай бұрын
The FA don’t have power & lost all power when Premier League was created. Looking at Football you need to ask who cares? Currently Masters says he answers to all 20 clubs = Big 6. So do we want our game run by Americans?
@Verolader
@Verolader 2 ай бұрын
Start with regulating the ticket prices
@peterrowe-prvvideo1853
@peterrowe-prvvideo1853 2 ай бұрын
why? it's entertainment business - market prices. Lower the ticket prices equals less income - equals no big name signings equals clubs going nowhere
@ThatGuy-tx4vm
@ThatGuy-tx4vm 2 ай бұрын
​@@peterrowe-prvvideo1853while you are correct... I think a "lower" quality and level club should not have as high a price as a powerful team.
@russellward4624
@russellward4624 2 ай бұрын
​@peterrowe-prvvideo1853 this is nonsense. These ticket price increases generate less than 5m a year. what big name are you signing for 5m?
@YahaRegard
@YahaRegard 2 ай бұрын
Agreed, clubs should have a certain % of tickets reserved for free for less fortunate. There's tons of refugees in this country who've seen the horrors of the far right in the last few months for example who would love a ticket. I cant even get a ticket for my beloved Liverpool.
@paulsmyth3580
@paulsmyth3580 2 ай бұрын
@@YahaRegard You mean the UK has been over run by the rest of the world pretending to be refugees' and idiots like you believe it and cry about prices when the tax payers are paying billions for these free loaders
@lucasmoreno5330
@lucasmoreno5330 2 ай бұрын
This man is another version of Sepp Blatter. He needs to be kept a mile away from football.
@GeordiejesterTV
@GeordiejesterTV 2 ай бұрын
Footballs dead now. More corruption
@haruspex1-50
@haruspex1-50 2 ай бұрын
The UK isn’t Singapore. Our government would make a howler of things.
@iamramgim
@iamramgim 2 ай бұрын
After some years they will talk about Regulators needing to have a regulator 😂😂 Every body wants peice of the pie these days.
@Faline68
@Faline68 2 ай бұрын
they should regulate the PGMOL first
@johnmiller9253
@johnmiller9253 2 ай бұрын
He uses the NFL as a standard?? Does he know anything? Has he heard of college football?
@kieransmith1733
@kieransmith1733 2 ай бұрын
The issue I have with the NFL argument, is who is their competition? The NFL is the one and only big market of American football which happens to be in the US, there are no other competitive leagues across the globe that are challenging the monopoly the NFL has on American Football. While the Premiership, is competing with league's across Europe, so if you don't get want you want from a Prem team you can take your talents to Spain or Italy.
@gaiusjcaesar09
@gaiusjcaesar09 2 ай бұрын
"fairness" malarkey is nuts. Sorry, but football is the example of how unfairness can be just. We've got 150 yrs of history, clubs going up, down, bust, progress, and it's fantastic. If clubs are continuously dropping out of the football league, new, more sustainable clubs will replace them. Hence, Brighton, Brentford, etc. if we want this guys fairness, why don't we take Man City's state wealth and spread it to the 40,000 clubs in England.
@jonathanmarkham1998
@jonathanmarkham1998 2 ай бұрын
Exactly. There’s a number of people out there who seem to think we should and can protect clubs from ever going under for its own sake, just because they have fans. It’s a bizarre expectation, considering there are so many other industries where it’s considered par for the course that if a business is poorly run it will go bust. Trying to make things as equal as possible makes sense in certain areas, but not in sport. It goes directly against the value of competition, is surely the main point of sport in the first place.
@politikking3340
@politikking3340 2 ай бұрын
Simon is 100% right. Fairness, equality, equity, are just soppy words that give quangos the justification to stick their noses in and mess everything up. Life isn't fair, life isn't equal. Without great clubs and players (which cost a lot of money) there will be nothing for the rest of English football to strive for.
@kermit63
@kermit63 2 ай бұрын
Fairness includes allowing fans in this country to watch their team on TV on a Saturday at 3 pm!
@allancrosthwaite2219
@allancrosthwaite2219 2 ай бұрын
You could actually go to the ground and watch them
@kermit63
@kermit63 2 ай бұрын
@@allancrosthwaite2219 not when there are no seats available!
@allancrosthwaite2219
@allancrosthwaite2219 2 ай бұрын
@@kermit63 not showing the works then
@VR46314
@VR46314 2 ай бұрын
@@allancrosthwaite2219ahh yes like Anfield maybe when 12k tickets are being fought for a by a waiting list of 390k
@jonathanmarkham1998
@jonathanmarkham1998 2 ай бұрын
I don’t with that outlook but you’ll inevitably get your way in the end. Money talks and I can’t see the blackout still being in place in 10 years from now.
@leeshuck5457
@leeshuck5457 2 ай бұрын
Government regulator?? The government that has a £22billion black hole 🤔
@Triple_X_X
@Triple_X_X 2 ай бұрын
There'll never be a "fairgame" as long as a regulator exists, regardless of its independency or not
@kieransmith1733
@kieransmith1733 2 ай бұрын
Simon owed this guy.........
@cameronglen2202
@cameronglen2202 2 ай бұрын
Who cares the subject is the relevant issue
@kieransmith1733
@kieransmith1733 2 ай бұрын
But the guy can’t even define what his issue is, he keeps throwing the word fair around without being able to define it
@ianprest3850
@ianprest3850 2 ай бұрын
Owned
@David-ce1nh
@David-ce1nh 2 ай бұрын
Football as everyday life has never been fair. Its about making the best possible outcome of the cards you are dealt.
@JDawgstwothousand
@JDawgstwothousand 2 ай бұрын
“Leveling playing field”. Making teams poorer so we can have less of a gap.
@rickysrighteyebrow8167
@rickysrighteyebrow8167 2 ай бұрын
Government ruins every single thing that they touch. How exactly will the UK government protect the heritage of the sport when they can't protect the heritage of the nation? The Government needs to sort its self out before trying to sort any thing else out.
@BrushWorks-u7x
@BrushWorks-u7x 2 ай бұрын
With good regulation Grenfell wouldn’t have happened. Cameron wanted a bonfire of red tape. A bonfire of red tape is what he called for and that’s what he got.
@davidboon7219
@davidboon7219 2 ай бұрын
DEI in all its GLORY 😳😳😳😳
@TheKh65
@TheKh65 2 ай бұрын
Explain, please
@abelovedsonofGodinwhomHeis35-6
@abelovedsonofGodinwhomHeis35-6 2 ай бұрын
Fair game wanna make money from smaller clubs, winging on their behalf, using the small clubs and fans to make money for themselves.
@TheFamousMileEnd
@TheFamousMileEnd 2 ай бұрын
All very fluffy language from Niall. Typical media speak about 'equity' from the same people who push DEI. Football has its challenges, not least that clubs are becoming more global than local, which loses what makes clubs unique in the first place and pricing people out that has been part of families heritage for generations, but at the same time I wouldn't trust people like Niall or any single politician to make things better.
@seanc6042
@seanc6042 2 ай бұрын
What’s this guy’s agenda?? Because there has to be an agenda somewhere. He/ they just want to get a piece of the successful pie! He’s talking absolute rubbish. The nature of football is to win, beat other teams. It’s not about draws, being the same as other teams. Regulate football and watch it deteriorate. The next step will then be regulate the regulators.
@Matt-p2c
@Matt-p2c 2 ай бұрын
Can’t see it working personally
@kayombomasuwa6663
@kayombomasuwa6663 2 ай бұрын
So who will come in when the regulator fails like the FA, just going to bring confusion further down the line and who regulated the regulators 😂
@malcolmodoy2651
@malcolmodoy2651 2 ай бұрын
I Love how the Prem is Destroying ITSELF
@briank4404
@briank4404 2 ай бұрын
Do you think it might be intentional in some way? Maybe it's another countries turn to have a decade or two of being Europe's best league. Or maybe the super league guys are behind it in some way... It does seem to be eating itself from the inside out. Which is a shame..
@BAReactions
@BAReactions 2 ай бұрын
it always happens. In the 90's Italy was the biggest league in the world. Destroyed itself. Then in the 2000's it was Spain.. Destroyed itself. Now PL, and they haven't learned from the fall of those two leagues over the last 40 years.
@chrismanners9091
@chrismanners9091 2 ай бұрын
Jordan is right that football clubs going bust is very rare. As Simon Kuper says in one of his books, it's rare because it's seen as very bad form for a bank to make a football club bankrupt. Lots of them have in the past have "deserved" it. and are in effect propped up by the customers of the bank. And administration is quite bad enough. It involves loads of staff and suppliers going almost unpaid- funnily enough it's considered fine for football to do this to cleaners and local building firms.
@trulshagenchristiansen7418
@trulshagenchristiansen7418 2 ай бұрын
spurs are a billion in debt how is that a great way of doing business 😳😳😳😳
@haruspex1-50
@haruspex1-50 2 ай бұрын
It’s about gearing ratios my friend. Yes they’re in debt but that’s because they’ve just built an asset in London that will help increase their Cashflow down the line. There’s also good debt and bad debt. If they got to borrow money at a relatively low interest rate then it’s really not that bad. Let’s not forget Spurs have a huge global fanbase so they’ll be fine. It’s the likes of poor little Reading or Burton Albion you should be concerned about. What chance do they have if things go south money wise?
@CerysEdwards-i6y
@CerysEdwards-i6y 2 ай бұрын
Good idea would be to get Gary Sweet back on from Luton Town on this issue. He was CEO when LTFC were in the Conference, and all the way up to the PL last season. Now back in the EFL again. Would be interesting to hear his views on FFP and if his views have switched having had a taste of the big time.
@parrisblue
@parrisblue 2 ай бұрын
Jim is such a clown 😂
@filosofastone1442
@filosofastone1442 2 ай бұрын
That guy opposite Simon is daft
@sambagogo777
@sambagogo777 2 ай бұрын
Any activist group naming itself "Fair Game" automatically is cause for suspicion. It implies that anybody not marching in lockstep with their views must not be "fair". It implies that you are 'unfair' if you disagree with anything they say. That's manipulative. It's suggestive of a group of individuals who are insufferably smug and arrogant in their conviction that only they can be right and that everybody else must be wrong and be treated with derision and disrespect. It's indicative of an elitist attitude of 'we know best'. They're so consumed with their own sense of self-importance that they believe that it's them who gets to decide on what is 'fair'. His true motives soon became all too predictably apparent. He spoke the language of a Marxist. That of course tallies with him being an activist from a group of elitist individuals who, by their chosen name, consider themselves to be superior to everybody else. Another bunch of socialists using manipulative words to hoodwink the public and the authorities toward listening to their demands.
@jonathanmarkham1998
@jonathanmarkham1998 2 ай бұрын
A lot of conjecture and conspiracism in this comment, not backed up by reality. And no, he didn’t speak the language of a Marxist. If you have no clue about Marxism or what it is, don’t go around declaring people to be speaking its language. He does seem to be smug and arrogant though, so I’ll grant you that.
@sambagogo777
@sambagogo777 2 ай бұрын
@@jonathanmarkham1998 You're entitled to your opinion of course regardless of whether it's backed up by reality or not.
@Flagan-CH
@Flagan-CH 2 ай бұрын
This to me is a fascinating conversation. I think the answer to ensuring future competitivness in football is simple. Use the formula 1 system. Each Prem team can spend a maximum 100m across the 2 seasonal transfer windows. You can spend more but for each additional 10m you will be deducted 3 points in the league - thus balancing the books becomes a transparent and strategic part of the game. E.g if the top 6 teams each spend 150m in the summer transfer market they start on -15 points for the forthcoming campaign - they then have to chase down the teams that began on 0 points - like a handicap in golf. Would also be great fun
@garyjohnson3751
@garyjohnson3751 2 ай бұрын
The game needs a massive whoopsie on the field to help turn it around
@goatissimo
@goatissimo 2 ай бұрын
who regulates the regulator ?
@dstewusa7054
@dstewusa7054 2 ай бұрын
The Premier League has successive champions who’ve been under investigation for 5 years and been charged on an unprecedented level, and the champions are suing the Premier league because of a tyranny of the majority - there’s civil war and finger pointing of corruption everywhere As a sporting competition, that’s nothing to be be proud of, or get behind We want our football back!!
@markorth7959
@markorth7959 2 ай бұрын
Discussing an independent football regulator without taking into account the ecj future judgement in Diara is like playing football without goals . I am aware that there was a thing called Brexit but that does not change the fact that the players market is far wider than England in terms of geographical market definition
@fantasticwildlife3947
@fantasticwildlife3947 2 ай бұрын
Do we need a regulator when teams like Burnley will never spend more than 1 season in the Champ again with a crazy Prem financial edge, while others struggle to financially compete? Yess!! Do we need a regulator to make sure clubs like Westham who are turned into mega clubs by the Govt with a 65K seater stadium pay compensation to Champ clubs who don't? Yess!!
@ianprest3850
@ianprest3850 2 ай бұрын
I totally agree with Simon
@eoliver437
@eoliver437 2 ай бұрын
The electricity system is regulated The telco system is regulated The insurance system is regulated The pub business is regulated The healthcare system is regulated The gambling/betting system is regulated. The stock market is regulated But Jordan says football is different and should be unique. Pathetic argument
@roddymackellar5481
@roddymackellar5481 2 ай бұрын
and none of the examples you gave are thriving are they?
@papsphaks4408
@papsphaks4408 2 ай бұрын
​@@roddymackellar5481 gambling and betting are soaring mate!
@jonathanmarkham1998
@jonathanmarkham1998 2 ай бұрын
Football is regulated so your argument doesn’t work. Also, in most of those industries you mentioned they are regulated but there isn’t an expectation that all companies across the board be protected for their own sake. That seems to be the assumption underlying Fair Game and the types of people who believe in sustainability as if it’s something to be chased at all costs.
@xbriskx
@xbriskx 2 ай бұрын
Its funny how everyday people think Zoom is the only way to have a video call on the internet.
@charliemilroy6497
@charliemilroy6497 2 ай бұрын
The broadcast packages are rubbish and incredibly overpriced. You can watch your team in the Championship live on TV, but in the Premier League you get the ocassional match at annoying times and then you either have to watch teams you aren't really interested in or accept that you are being ripped off for almost nothing in return.
@anthonyedwards6409
@anthonyedwards6409 2 ай бұрын
This is guff…its not financial mismanagement, clubs are trying to compete with unfair revenue streams, bring in a salary cap and all that extra money goes into community investment, why is it complicated
@jessrealfortune6648
@jessrealfortune6648 2 ай бұрын
I agree with Simon. The world is based on winner takes all.
@MaticulousGamer
@MaticulousGamer 2 ай бұрын
just look at what the UK government did to Chelsea FC
@davewarren2849
@davewarren2849 2 ай бұрын
Well said Simon
@theuppertier5981
@theuppertier5981 Ай бұрын
Imagine while your own house is falling apart you stand in your driveway pointing out to your neighbour the problems with his house sport is about competition
@captainkirk4519
@captainkirk4519 2 ай бұрын
I thought the guy was an April fools joke. Wow. The regulation they talk about would strangle football.
@kevanskelton9982
@kevanskelton9982 2 ай бұрын
Regulation in the UK is consistently poor. The likelihood of it working better in football is minimal.
@BlackCountry-q1h
@BlackCountry-q1h 2 ай бұрын
Simon Jorden is 100% correct on this...
@robmorris9541
@robmorris9541 2 ай бұрын
If the FA and UEFA weren't so corrupt we wouldn't need an independent regulator. Sort out the FA and put competent people in charge and the need goes. Teams that have money shouldn't be punished for trying to make their team better or the experience better for fans.
@BiWesCrew
@BiWesCrew 2 ай бұрын
the independent regulator supposed to be the FA. It's understood there is reason and leeway to be suspicious to put it mildly. however who could grant another supervisor couldn't and wouldn't be bribed along the way?
@johnfulco8313
@johnfulco8313 2 ай бұрын
What is the point? Everyone just bends when money is on the line anyway. The independent regulator will either be too involved trying to be relevant, or be corrupt when big money is on the line. Either way it ruins the game
@campfirefootball
@campfirefootball 2 ай бұрын
I would love to know how many business and industries that were founded in the late 19th and early 20th century are still alive today. It's probably quite a small number. And yet apparently football is "unsustainable" even though the majority of clubs have survived for generations.
@padraiglocke8844
@padraiglocke8844 2 ай бұрын
I thought The Democrats big government here in America was the worst but I just can’t believe who crazy The British government is now , there taken over Private Football , madness!!!!
@broca246
@broca246 Ай бұрын
Football does not need government intervention.
@joshuacullen3217
@joshuacullen3217 Ай бұрын
Fairness 😂 - you can put yourself in a better position by good business choices over the years. So, by that principle, you can also make bad ones yeah? Then you'd have two clubs that wouldn't be at a 'fair' starting point in 5 years. Simon on point again. The other fella wants to start engaging with the American soccer. Sounds like he'd be right into that system.
@jrjoiner6948
@jrjoiner6948 2 ай бұрын
Basically that guy is saying “I’m not in charge and I want to be so I’m going to be an independent regulator”. Whole thing smells of 💩
@charliemilroy6497
@charliemilroy6497 2 ай бұрын
Fair doesn't mean that everyone has the same income level, fair means that teams don't spend beyond their means and have the same responsibilities and obligations as other clubs. Fair means not hoarding players who were bought for a pittance.
@JimW-gt4qp
@JimW-gt4qp 2 ай бұрын
If you want to describe it as a "product", then compared to 40 years ago its now become an over priced rip off milked by total grifters.
@chriswalker3138
@chriswalker3138 2 ай бұрын
Nialls is 100% a politician, be careful what you ask for
@simonmorrell8153
@simonmorrell8153 Ай бұрын
Can someone explain to me how adjusting wealth distribution will stop the "gambling culture", won't it just give clubs more money to gamble with?
@Jeoplaxton
@Jeoplaxton 2 ай бұрын
They always come with the same words. Fairness and equity. Beware of anyone telling you they're the arbiters of fairness. They're always villains in disguise.
@allancrosthwaite2219
@allancrosthwaite2219 2 ай бұрын
Who appoints the premier league officials and why are they allowed to have positions on united arsenal and Liverpools board with biased rules to stop other teams competing
@funkymonkey73
@funkymonkey73 2 ай бұрын
'Hope not' lol, way too much money involved for greedy little politicians to get involved, think its bad now, that will be the death knell for the game imo.
@Maz-h8f
@Maz-h8f 2 ай бұрын
What is the FA for.
@paulfrancis9129
@paulfrancis9129 2 ай бұрын
UEFA have said if there's a regulator they will ban England an the clubs from Europe, what a clown
@reginalddavies3082
@reginalddavies3082 2 ай бұрын
Nail Cooper got owned by Simon, If Nail had walked into the studio to convince that we need a regulator to me its an epic fail.
@imjustme818
@imjustme818 2 ай бұрын
Who’s going to be paying for all this also
@Crouchy232323
@Crouchy232323 2 ай бұрын
Utter woke nonsense
@russellward4624
@russellward4624 2 ай бұрын
Define woke
@jonathanmarkham1998
@jonathanmarkham1998 2 ай бұрын
@@russellward4624I think he’s just pissing around.
@theuppertier5981
@theuppertier5981 Ай бұрын
I own a small shop any chance you could regulate Harrods to be fairplay with me give over
@jamesafcwimbledon8868
@jamesafcwimbledon8868 Ай бұрын
Simon is absolutely spot on once again. As for Niall Couper? Wishy washy snowflake. Hasn't a clue about how to run a successful and competitive football club...he's utterly delusional with his suggestion that all fans need or want is to turn up and watch a game at 3pm on a Saturday...fairness??? Give me strength ffs. What 99.9% of fans want to see their club compete and do everything they possibly can to WIN matches.
@PeterBowles316
@PeterBowles316 2 ай бұрын
At the moment we have a situation where the best supporters can hope for is that their club is bought by the least worst billionaire, and that the owner will happy shovel endless piles of money in to the bottomless pit until they either run out of cash or get bored. Something has to change
@imthemaninit
@imthemaninit 2 ай бұрын
Why would anyone get the government involved in something to try make it better
@dibnah46
@dibnah46 2 ай бұрын
How can the government dare talk about anyone else wasting money 😂 shambles.
@Red_Anachronism
@Red_Anachronism 2 ай бұрын
Independent regulator = an extra brown envelope 💰💰💰
@wrighthartlane99
@wrighthartlane99 2 ай бұрын
Simon did both of them there 😂
@joekelly6859
@joekelly6859 Ай бұрын
All that guy sees is an half a million a year opportunity to become a chief executive of a highly bloated department with thousands of regulators that ll cost eventually hundreds of millions a year to feed ,and inevitably less money that'll go to the football clubs he harping on about regaarding fairness amd equity .
@theuppertier5981
@theuppertier5981 Ай бұрын
Has football not been sanitized enough the joy has been torn out of the game this guy trying to sell us the VAR of boardrooms
@iandixon2065
@iandixon2065 2 ай бұрын
I bet gets into an argument looking in the mirror....how can he say 'what needs fixing'?
@karlm641
@karlm641 2 ай бұрын
In banking there are cash and capital ratios designed to stop banks failing… football could adopt the same approach with similar regulations if they wanted to but they never will
@joelrigby4961
@joelrigby4961 2 ай бұрын
Exactly what I was thinking! Our banking system is so reliable and it's so consistent and stable it's the perfect model.. laughable even thinking of the banking system letting us down.....
@redmed10
@redmed10 2 ай бұрын
Karl were you born after 2008 or even yesterday. Have you never heard where the term too big to fail came from.
@karlm641
@karlm641 2 ай бұрын
@@redmed10 trust me mate I know a lot more than you do on that subject
@karlm641
@karlm641 2 ай бұрын
@@joelrigby4961 The ratios were brought in after the financial crisis and there hasnt been an issue in the UK banking system since...
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