Simple Arpeggios on JUPITER-X and Xm

Finally, someone explained difference between i-arp & arpeggiator, basically. Thank you Robert 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽 Can you Show us other basic things sometimes i am really confusing. For example, can we change part’s models? Or part one have to be jupiter 8 always? Part two Juno.

[@RobertSaintJohn]

More basics to come! A video on Model assignments is a good idea

[@orestezao]

hello Mr Robert I am from Brasil. I have Jupiter xm and gave up of it because its too much complicated. but this video of yours made me want to try again. Please mr Robert make more videos like this. Thanks .

[@Paul_DJ_Melody]

Great video Robert! Back to basics is a great idea because it's so easy to get bogged down in the complexity. Looking forward to the next one on effects. 👍

[@StephanieSante]

Thank goodness. Thank you Robert Saint John.

[@cliffordnealon]

Thanks Robert for putting in the time in making these videos.

[@sofam84]

Ah these were the tutorials I was missing! I bought my Jupiter-X on Tuesday!

[@TYKOGALACTIC]

Thanks Robert. Very clear and well explained. I was confused about arpeggio vs i-arp. Cheers!

[@JasmineAdamson]

Awesome! This is exactly what I was saying on Facebook. I hadn't seen this yet.

[@steveessex4720]

I wish to thank you for taking time to explain things on the jupiter x . I got mine 4 days ago and it is a lot to deal with at first . But with your help I will get to know it , Thank you Teacher . You have a new subb to your channel

[@RobertSaintJohn]

Thank you and you’re welcome! More to come, but be sure to check out Roland’s own X support playlist at kzbin.info/aero/PLmLJ2Wanv6-C-qbC5vWO0sieEoLC7eOey

[@steveessex4720]

@@RobertSaintJohn i know , im subbed to them as well. But your way of teaching is much better

[@colekeircom]

Thanks Robert. Very informative and clearly explained . Looking forward to more of the same . Great arp composition at the end , dreamy /ethereal and soothing, [ maybe it'll calm down that troll ]. Thanks again , Kieron.

[@WAGSU2BE]

This was SO helpful! Thanks Robert!

[@RobertSaintJohn]

Aaaanndd, there’s my wife with the obligatory thumbs down lol. Time to catch up on household chores, it seems

[@ZoeSummers1701A]

You’re my hero… thank you ❤🎉

[@arcadeaudio1979]

Great video Robert!

[@RobertSaintJohn]

This is your fault in every way lolol

[@arcadeaudio1979]

@@RobertSaintJohn I accept no responsibility!

[@jdtorian]

Bad ass. I printed the parameter list today; super depressing moment. This made my day.

[@RobertSaintJohn]

Save the trees lol! Absolutely, it looks overwhelming. But (and I should check this, OOC), I bet that I have only ever touched 30% of those parameters. So much of it is ZEN-Core tone obscurity, System settings I might touch once, and Part settings I rarely use. After a nearly a year and a half I’m still finding new things, even just tonight. For now, I want to help get everyone comfortable with the 10% that matters.

[@supracer2007]

Absolutely amazing tutorial.

[@aridyball3738]

Oh man, I bought an Xm a couple of months ago, and I know how powerful it is, but I was a bit upset that the I-arpeggio wasn't as fun as my old microKorg, which you can just point at something, hit the arp on, and play away. But a 2.58 mins into this video you showed me how to bring out the fun microKorg in the XM - but now I have 4 synth parts and a rhythm track - mind blown. Thank you

[@RobertSaintJohn]

YES! Exactly! Sometimes you just want an arp. Now you can have 4!

[@aridyball3738]

@@RobertSaintJohn hey man, I wouldn't message if I hand't tried everything. When I use this method, the arp is really slow. Eg: If I am in ARP COMMON EDIT - Type: "01 UP 16th" the 16th notes are what you expect them to be - fast. But if I switch Type to "off" and then go to ARP PART EDIT and switch the grid note to 16th, the arp is MUCH slower - help?

[@aridyball3738]

Also, if I go into step edit mode and set the grid length to 16th notes it works properly

[@aridyball3738]

Ok, answering my own question here. It has something to do with the Beat Detector. You have to turn that off before you turn the I-arp type off and the turn the Arp part edit switch to ON, if the beat detector is on, you will get this slowness, and it wont change no matter what you do... weird.

[@RobertSaintJohn]

@@aridyball3738 Exactly, I think I specified in that video to make sure that button was off

[@BlueAngelo]

Very good tutorial thanks!!!!

[@stobe7675]

Thank Robert ! very helpful

[@tommillitello4465]

Excellent video. Now im curious about what I-ARP does. I also want to learn how to have multiple Jupiter-X sounds assigned to parts. I need to learn about the implementaton of expansion boards for the Jupiter-x and what purpose they serve. I also want to see how to load preprogrammed scenes if that is at all relevant. How do I switch scenes quickly with using it during band rehersals? Am I on the right track? What is the learning curve, the goals to set after acquiring this instrument for myself to utilize the unit the best way possible. Are you available for one on one coaching? Thank you.

[@rcmusic35]

Well put together sir !

[@j.h.jun.2214]

Great work! Thanks a lot!

[@jonesc1978]

Excellent video, thank you. I didn't really see the point of the i-arpeggio when I first got the Xm (I still don't, to be honest). Seems strange that there are easily accessible knobs and buttons for a complex feature that you are rarely going to use, but you have to go menu diving to get to the basic settings that you are going to want the majority of the time.

[@RobertSaintJohn]

Roland is paying attention. They recently sent out a survey to users specifically about I-Arp, indicating that they do want to do what they can to bring it more in line with our needs and expectations. I actually do like I-Arp for what it is and what was intended, but it’s hard to “tame” and as you indicated gets in the way of the simpler tasks I think many of us would like closer at hand. Thanks for watching!

[@jszack]

Fantastic--thank you!

[@misteremagic]

Great job !

[@ellamiss4613]

Lol! Love your intro!

[@erikreino5628]

Thanks this was very useful!

[@steventhornton8910]

Excellent step by step walkthrough and on the money with regard to level of complexity - basic is good.

[@WAGSU2BE]

Could you please do a tutorial on how to setup a split with a basic arp on the bottom half of the keyboard and a pad sound on the top half and not have the arp lose notes when the pad is played?

[@RobertSaintJohn]

Like this one from last year? kzbin.info/www/bejne/fIisc5iKe72kfbs Should still work, it’s an updated version of my original one. Try it and leave a comment there and let me know if you’re having problems

[@RobertSaintJohn]

And use the same tips I showed in this video about turning off I Arp and Beat, and switching On the arpeggiator for the lower split part

[@WAGSU2BE]

@@RobertSaintJohn , thank you! The video link was extremely helpful. I needed to adjust the lower arp range. All set now!

[@massimilianocasini201]

Thank's Robert for yours special Video!!! One more answer ....in this video you use only one zone for 4 arp part...It's possibile to have two separate zone with two different part and have a two different simple arp ? Bass line over , pluck synths upper... A simple scene. I try more time....but i cant make it!!!

[@RobertSaintJohn]

I don’t think this is possible, at least not in the 3.0 release. I don’t recall if it was possible before, and if something has changed or not. I need to look at 3.0 I-Arp more closely. However, you may still be able to accomplish this using the more complex I-Arp method demonstrated in a previous video. Let me find it and paste the link (but I have not tested it in 3.0)

[@RobertSaintJohn]

Try this kzbin.info/www/bejne/fIisc5iKe72kfbs to set up your independent bass part, and see if you can also include an independent arp on the upper keys

[@scottbutkowski5803]

Hey there, Did you paint some of the lower buttons on your Jupiter-Xm? You'll excuse me, I'm new here. I like the lesson on the arpeggios I'm a complete Luddite and I think this is going to make it easy for me. Thank you.

[@RobertSaintJohn]

Not paint, those are semi-transparent, non-permanent dot stickers like those used for maps. They stick nicely but can be peeled off without residue.

[@MATTH_amsterdam]

thnx this is useful 🙂

[@wolfgangwiesinger9502]

Yes, my children are playing with the i arp. I have no idea how to use this feature to good.

[@AngeloMolino]

My arpeggiator on Jupiter XM dont START !!! The switch looks on but no sound at all !!!

[@supracer2007]

How about a basic Scene tutorial to get. someone who is new started. I would pay for this lesson.

[@RobertSaintJohn]

Well certainly check out the excellent Roland Support videos for both the X and Xm (check out their playlists), such as this one for Scenes - kzbin.info/www/bejne/jpOtnX6XdruFh6s . But it does seem to be a popular request, so I will think about how I might apply my weird approach to the subject... no pay required!

[@stephanearnoux]

Thanks for this useful vidéo ! I have a question... Is it possible to sequence the arpeggio ? I can play one part with a sequencer, but cans i play all parts, sending chords, and then choose wich part is arpeggio or not etc (not with keyboard control mode, but with a midi setting ?) ?

[@RobertSaintJohn]

You are welcome! I am not certain I understand the question, can you explain a bit more? What you can do is add these arpeggios into the I-Arp Step Edit, Part by Part, and the notes are added to the pattern grid. It is not (yet?) possible to automatically add those as held chords. I know this has been suggested to Roland. Does that answer your question, Stéphane?

[@stephanearnoux]

@@RobertSaintJohn My question is more about sending midi notes to all parts and not part by part (wich have different midi channels). If you could send chords to one midi channel to all parts, you could do exactly what you do in the video, but with a sequencer ;)

[@RobertSaintJohn]

@@stephanearnoux that would be the Remote Keyboard function on the X/Xm. That allows an external sequencer or controller keyboard to do precisely this. I often use my Novation SL MkIII controller /sequencer like this with the Xm, because it has full-size keys and aftertouch. And its sequencer can address all the Parts of the X/Xm with a single track/channel, all through MIDI USB or DIN. And the X/Xm has settings for each Part, keyboard and arp switches, that would allow you to pick and choose which Parts respond to external Remote Keyboard. So, I believe the answer to your question is “Yes!”

[@stephanearnoux]

@@RobertSaintJohn Yes, the remote keyboard fonction is great for that, but if you just want to sequence the Jupiter-xm, not if the sequencer wants to sequence other gear too with midi channels... because the remote keyboard setting is on every channel :( Or i can't find the way to set that...

[@RobertSaintJohn]

@@stephanearnoux what if you don’t use Remote Kbd and instead set each Part to the same MIDI channel (Rx Ch) in Scene Part Edit ?

[@mickricksbsc]

I'm on day 3 of being a J-X owner, and I'm finding this difficult to follow. When I choose an initial scene and add one part (a percussive sound of course) to it, then follow these instructions to set the arp common and part settings, as soon as I turn the arp on, there is no sound. All I really want to do at this early stage, is to set a single note to trigger repeatedly, then, say, a simple chord scale up/down, that sort of thing. Is it not possible to do this with a single "patch" rather than have to use a scene to do it?

[@SamLowryDZ-015]

What I would like is a simple button so it plays just as a JP8 (or any of the other models)

[@RobertSaintJohn]

I can’t manufacture the button, but check out that Facebook Group. I just created and uploaded a Single Tone Scene that helps you treat the X/Xm as a single Part synth

[@SamLowryDZ-015]

@@RobertSaintJohn Thanks I have updated my follow settings so I get all notifications now :-)

[@AngeloMolino]

My arpeggiator on jupiter xm DONT WORKs! I am in a real panic !!! The switch looks on but no sound !!!

[@RobertSaintJohn]

Try preset 1-11. If it plays, it works. Your issue could be any number of things. First make certain that the Part you are trying to arpeggiate is turned on.

[@DJFAUZINYC]

Aaahhhhhh YESSssssss, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. You did a great job, on camera and talking. This is just the beginning Robert. I’m excited to learn more about my Jupiter xm from you. You’re showing us why we paid so much for this brilliant piece of machinery. I’ve been controlling mine via midi. Is there a way to use arpeggios when it’s in Slave mode? THANKS AGAIN🫂⭐️

[@RobertSaintJohn]

Most welcome! (and thanks for prompting me to come out from behind the curtain 😄). When you ask about arps in slave mode, do you mean that an external keyboard or DAW is sending the notes? Or do you mean that you’re clocking the Xm externally, but want to know if you can still directly play the arps? (you can) If the former, it’s usually just a question of making sure that the source is set to the same MIDI channel as the Part itself (SCENE PART EDIT > Rx CH). In this case, you do not want to use the system Setting of Remote Keyboard On, which is like MIDI Omni. Leave it Off, otherwise the external device will try to play all the Parts at once. That’s great for I-Arp, but not simple individual arps like this. If I’m misunderstanding the question, let me know 👍

[@loicmarbach1419]

hello robert can I do arp on all preset even in model bank ?

[@RobertSaintJohn]

The arp can be applied to any Part and even multiple Parts. And it can be applied to any Tone from the Models in that Part. So you could, for instance, assign an arp pattern to a Part, play and hold it, then change the Tone, and the arp will still play. I hope that answers your question

[@loicmarbach1419]

@@RobertSaintJohn Ok I think yes lol I will check tonight byt he way thank you !! because I use a lot model bank preset (only) and the arpeggio button doesn,'t apply arpeggio to all preset so ..

[@RobertSaintJohn]

@@loicmarbach1419 Arps are a Part-level function, not Tone/Preset

[@RobertSaintJohn]

@@loicmarbach1419 Arps are a Part-level function, not Tone/Preset

[@loicmarbach1419]

@@RobertSaintJohn all rights thank you

[@downpatmusic]

That should be renamed Eye-Arp as you need good eyes to see that tiny screen and those teeny buttons.

[@blazerepublic]

If anyone has figured out how to save arppeggiator settings do you let me know

[@-_-Alx]

Robert, where are you???

[@RobertSaintJohn]

Busy! I was kind of hoping Roland themselves would pick up the pace on tutorial videos after the 3.0 update, but it was not to be, it seems. I’m still playing, still have both the Xm and X, but my day job really doesn’t leave time for more of these videos.