Finally an in-depth explanation from someone who knows for sure what they are talking about.
@zetaknight21432 жыл бұрын
Holy shit this video is amazing. The breakdown we deserve. I've gotten my Infinite settings as close to feel as MCC in certain (multiplayer) games. But this breakdown is next level to others.
@korevirus5472 жыл бұрын
When I used controller was playing with my kid a friend joined on me a 1800 oynx or whatever I knew some of my keybinds everything felt easier. And was winning those 1v1s and it felt alot easier, but disliked how it felt like I wasn't aiming less random input latency I get on my mnk, and was winning fights that seemed easier with not alot of effort, the commando felt gross to use, for me was easier. However, either input takes time, mnk takes a heck of a lot more and I had to relearn how to aim and track and keep good movement. No dig on controller I was a controller user for years until a bit over a year ago. on mnk you have to hyper focus to win those 1 v 1s and honestly feels way more rewarding but is tiring. for me it felt alot easier on controller, but don't like how it felt so stayed mnk knowing the odd disadvantage in a way. Been playing less and less, knowing how ar can beam on you , pistols they can spam the trigger and each shot beams you, And brs. All that being said infinite has some amazing gunplay, and very fun n feels rewarding specially on mnk, unfortunately how this game is and people constantly exclaiming is a controller game it will be niche cause of it. And how they designed this game it may be niche and may stay as a console game. Maybe down the road with new modes etc it will be leas niche and less one input meta driven . We all want halo to grow but when most dropped and known as a controller game most won't bother cause of this attitude. We all know how steam users r lol. Currently there is less than 500 ranked in mnk only
@noobeable2 жыл бұрын
And all this time I've been playing on max fov shooting at ants.
@bryanbertram83462 жыл бұрын
Same
@Zod_JB2 жыл бұрын
Bro! Best explanation of Infinite’s aiming system and how to use the settings to find what works. The technical explanations really helped clear the water on this for me. Sharing this with the boys.
@TheWiz2082 жыл бұрын
Impressive video. Got a new sub. Hope to see your updated controller settings in the future. Especially if 343 add more controller options.
@criticalinfinite49452 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot for the sub!
@sadswolf9362 жыл бұрын
This video has helped me play so much better. You’ve definitely gained a new sub and keep up the great work
@criticalinfinite49452 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! Happy to help!
@davemccombs2 жыл бұрын
lol
@hackjuniordf2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the tips!
@matthewjefferson21592 жыл бұрын
Are these your ideal settings? Or have you made updates/changes since this video? So far, the few changes I’ve made based on this…have seemed to improve feel and shot connection. Avg game accuracy went from 48% to nearly 60% at onyx level play too
@criticalinfinite49452 жыл бұрын
Congratulations. I think I'm about to make a video completely dedicated to controller settings.... A part 2 to my original aim assist video. I'll completely flesh out controller settings and compare and contrast to mcc, with an emphasis on how infinite is underserved.
@matthewjefferson21592 жыл бұрын
@@criticalinfinite4945 that’d be excellent! I’ve struggled since day 1, to find anything that feels “normal”/not weird. Joystick inputs just feels chunky and fidgety. Even on their defaults, it’s awful. Combine all that with D-Sync, and it’s been less than enjoyable experience. Appreciate your efforts though, look forward to next video.
@neoluna11722 жыл бұрын
@@criticalinfinite4945 please do this
@jaymz82222 жыл бұрын
Are you saying people should make both look and move dead zones 0, or just look? Also, what do you recommend overall as far as max input threshold goes? I already have my ideal sensitivity.
@GameOfJoffrey7772 жыл бұрын
@@jaymz8222 yes please answer this, should move stick deadzones be set to zero as well? And what should Look acceleration be ? 0 or 5?
@skier1832 жыл бұрын
Excellent video and I’m so happy you’re highlighting another thing 343 has changed that didn’t need changing! One thing I didn’t understand you said about the look thumbstick was that a higher max input threshold increases variance in the acceleration curve. However, in the settings menu it says the opposite to be the case. Could you please explain this more?
@FBRacingV22 жыл бұрын
FINALLY SOMEONE FIGURED OUT THE SETTINGS!!! I have vids on my desktop but i didnt want to upload it just wanted to have proof but atlease someone is also studying the game physics.
@iiKenTroN2 жыл бұрын
In your section where you talk about Mnk its true I am a top 5% player on mnk even in 8s lobbies vs controller players I have difficulty keeping up mostly in close range fights because of movement and aim assist. long range fights seem to go my way a lot more often though
@brownad332 жыл бұрын
I've noticed a lot of pros have been playing lower fov (snakebite (85 on his stream i think he said) and Lucid is around 90ish (look at his BR reticle the lines are almost = to the circle, high fov the lines extend further from the center). This pretty much confirms what i was thinking about FOV. I also noticed it tends to extend the perceived melee distance when on higher FOV, huge melee lunges are big because your zoomed out. I tend to stick around 100 but im thinking 90ish might be the thing to do. You also confirmed my thought on look dead zones interfering with Aim assist. I tried 0 in academy and thought the aim assist seemed extra sticky but never tried it in a game. Thanks for the info. Wouldn't mind if you look into how different settings could improve strafe speed for controller. On my scuff its noticably slower than on my elite pro 2 (i have instant curve on it in the controller settings and its basically as fast as MnK strafe)
@criticalinfinite49452 жыл бұрын
Working on a video now.... Here's a sneak peak. Turning your move stick deadzones all the way to 15, you will reach your max movement speed sooner.
@brownad332 жыл бұрын
I have the move max input to 15 already. Do you mean that or the actual move deads. Also I should say an elite 2 will be the same as any controller for long strafes but quick side to side with the instant left stick curve is clearly faster. Makes 1v1s much easier (scuff instinct is a bit better for shots and consistent back paddles/buttons activation)
@stefanobiscut2 жыл бұрын
@@brownad33 go 0 15 3
@joshuas18342 жыл бұрын
Great video, but I think you might be wrong about the field of view thing. First of all it seems like all of the pros use somewhere between a 95 and 110° FOV and I doubt that all of them would be using a field of view that makes their aiming worse. In my own experience in training mode it seems like a higher field of view comes with increased bullet bending aka auto aim which makes it feel like there's better shot registration. It also seems like it might slightly increase the reticle magnetism area of effect. All those things combine to make me have way better aim at 99° than I do at the standard 78.
@stefanobiscut2 жыл бұрын
Yea he’s definitely wrong abt it u also see a lot less n the game feels slower
@bobnob43932 жыл бұрын
There are a few pro M&K players. A team recently took down EUnited in a tournament and I believe 2 players were M&K. As I whole I agree though
@o0Welshy0o2 жыл бұрын
Whats the team name?
@silvertoddler83262 жыл бұрын
Dislike the video twice
@apolloxrc38632 жыл бұрын
I’d love to know these players, I am no pro and stopped playing/grinding and have been playing on MnK only since launch but I was top 20 Of the MnK players and I did actually try and compete for EUnited and honestly wish there was more MnK pros of even a MnK pro scene or somthing but what’s the team name and players?
@MetaITurtle2 жыл бұрын
To me this game just feels like a very polished Alpha build. Everything feels so thin and weightless. But I understand why. They are low staffed and people left..
@zerocal762 жыл бұрын
@@apolloxrc3863 whats up man, how many hours per week would u play/practice when you were grinding? just curious 😀
@22lagoon2 жыл бұрын
C9 Bound - mouse and keyboard at the word finals HCS series. I only know this because I saw it live!
@mrhamburgler4802 жыл бұрын
Still to this day, Im not satisfied with my controls as far as the sticks go. Despite trying numerous setups that ive spent hours tweaking then trying each for a week, maybe a little less depending on how each have felt. I tell my buds nearly 80% of my deaths, especially my 1v1s, i absolutely know are because how weird this game feels and still not being able to find that sweet spot with my sticks. Im absolutely gonna try many of the "feel of the game", controller setup related tips in couple hrs lol. Because zero dead zones is the one setup ive yet to try. Dude i also saw your video in why Infinite feels so weird too, Quality content my friend. And for sure took away many of the other tips you relayed here as well. Funny, i never key up to single/duo controller ranked queue, even when running solo, because like you, I've told my buds from day one that it feels like playing MnK players is wayyyyyyy easier most of the time. Glad to hear that validated by someone with this level of understanding of the games build. Got a sub here after this one bud. 👍 keep em coming man
@poobalu2 жыл бұрын
I owe Critical Infinite an apology - I previously disliked this video based on prior knowledge of the Blam engine and I didn't see sources for this information, but now that I've seen the research that went into this video and those that followed I have since subbed and corrected my judgement. Excellent content!
@SkrrtFishing2 жыл бұрын
Very informative stuff, will apply tomorrow, currently 0 on all deadlines 6.5/6.5 on look. 107 fov. I feel the for change will help me, I usually get a good few perfects already, so we will see! Subbed for more 👍👌
@criticalinfinite49452 жыл бұрын
Thanks a ton!
@SkrrtFishing2 жыл бұрын
Lower fov, really does change the game!
@criticalinfinite49452 жыл бұрын
@@SkrrtFishing Glad it helped!
@Shotzzilla2 жыл бұрын
Halo 5 had a terrible aim curve too anyway Love the video quite possibly one of the best on aim settings. I do disagree about the max input and accel being higher. I think max input at 0 and accel at 2 or 3 is closer to MCC
@joshuas18342 жыл бұрын
You are correct
@JohnSmith-XYZ2 жыл бұрын
Yep, you want max input threshold on Look Stick to be as low as possible for a closer-to-MCC feel. I use 3.
@Shotzzilla2 жыл бұрын
@@JohnSmith-XYZ it really does I’ll probably keep at 0 forever now lol
@st_7102 жыл бұрын
u can do the. curve adjustments with xbox accessories app for elite controler
@Shotzzilla2 жыл бұрын
N what do all of them mean ??
@SOG3122 жыл бұрын
@@Shotzzilla the pro controller you can edit the buttons and sticks. You can make the A button be Y and change the curve used on the sticks. The default is “smooth” which is a straight line for inputs, so a 1 to 1.
@badflare2 жыл бұрын
Really good vid lotta people don't talk ab the small details in mechanics like this👍
@arabic7boy2 жыл бұрын
Very, very good video my man, i subbed to you as well.
@higon992 жыл бұрын
108 FOV KBM sad panda is here. I've never played halo with a controller but I'm gonna try.
@wladff2 жыл бұрын
I've taught myself to play on controller when Infinite came out despite being lifelong mnk player. I've jumped from 30% accuracy to 45% in a matter of weeks, so it worth the effort.
@Seadog95112 жыл бұрын
This is fantastic! May I suggest putting these settings in the description of the video for easy reference?
@thecoolcario90482 жыл бұрын
I honestly can't play with controller. I tried it once cause I thought I was bad with MK but then using an Xbox elite controller made me feel like i was being contorted onto a pretzel when performing basic acts. couldn't mark very well either.
@gnvtr20s2 жыл бұрын
Digging your vids. Thanks for your hard work. You got a sub.
@criticalinfinite49452 жыл бұрын
Thanks, it means a lot!
@jonathancollins80722 жыл бұрын
These videos explain so much. How do you only have ~180 subs?
@ANM1492 жыл бұрын
A new breakdown like this of season 2 would be awesome I feel the aiming different, a lot with the BR now I’m failing a lot of shots and I don’t know why 🤔
@joshuas18342 жыл бұрын
They definitely changed something for season 2 but I'm not sure what. With my settings I actually feel like my aim is a little bit better but I know a lot of people have been saying that theirs is worse
@ANM1492 жыл бұрын
@@joshuas1834 after a few days i feel like the head hitbox is smaller I’m gettin use.
@brianr95292 жыл бұрын
Nice video. Subscribed and dropped a like.
@criticalinfinite49452 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!
@brianr95292 жыл бұрын
@@criticalinfinite4945 you're welcome.
@francisbawasanta63102 жыл бұрын
Are there recommendations for Mnk settings? I'm never going Onyx... I just want the best chance i can possibly have while still enjoying the movement.
@Valkrill2 жыл бұрын
I play on 84 FOV because I noticed all the Spartans seemed way further away and smaller etc compared to CE-3
@mariocm83782 жыл бұрын
I loved the vid ❣️
@Cognitoman2 жыл бұрын
I set my threshold down to 0 and it feels better and I play on 6/6
@GameOfJoffrey7772 жыл бұрын
Should Look and Move deadzones be both set at 0 or just Look? Im also asking because you said dont set your max input deadzone at zero? Also what's your preferred Look acceleration, 0 or 5? You said 5 in the video from what I heard ? Thanks for answering man.
@criticalinfinite49452 жыл бұрын
I'd set the look stick deadzones to 0. On the move stick, use the minimum value your controller will tolerate without drift.
@alvaroblanco90942 жыл бұрын
Subscribed!
@criticalinfinite49452 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@stuartcully97942 жыл бұрын
Did you update this? I need this game to feel more like MCC and legacy games. I refuse to play until I can actually enjoy the game. What are the exact metrics you would recommend for controller on console? Thanks for the vids. Doing god's work.
@Travon88072 жыл бұрын
Subscribed looking forward to updates on controlling the aim assist. Halo 3/4 was my best. I’m hoping to replicate that feel for sure.
@smegatronls2 жыл бұрын
You have some very "snappy" aim sir... Very snappy indeed.
@CallinCutz2 жыл бұрын
Kinda cheesy settings throughout the whole video .. feel bad for you watching this hope you get better at halo … I understand aim assist is a pain but that doesn’t mean be a borderline cheater , just get quicker .
@lawrencedanao76482 жыл бұрын
I’m confused, others tell me to have low move and look thumb stick threshold but you say high or medium. Can someone please tell me the right setting?
@vol4jesus6842 жыл бұрын
Very insightful, Christ bless bro!✝️❤️
@SweetGambit2 жыл бұрын
I know one m&k pro player btw.
@Cognitoman2 жыл бұрын
You think playing on 105 is bad?
@criticalinfinite49452 жыл бұрын
I used to do 90, I lowered it to 78. A lower fov makes enemies subjectively larger on your screen, and thus easier to get your reticle on top of. 105 is the exact point after which things get really bad. So anything up to 105 is good. Naturally its best to experiment yourself.
@bobnob43932 жыл бұрын
I play on max fov, 120 I think. Maybe that's why I've been struggling a little. Also don't have deadlines completely on zero
@stevebarbieri13992 жыл бұрын
78? Lmao u can't see what's going on around you ain't that important?? Do at least 95
@EthanTheDinoNerd2 жыл бұрын
Tip 1: Give 343 $20 just so you can unlock a new single helmet.
@AggressiveBeagle2 жыл бұрын
Not going to lie… I can’t stand when people try to cheese the game mechanics and cause you to miss shots but halo infinite is definitely MY game… I have never been better at a game in my life! Okay sure it’s because the aim assist is too powerful or whatever I don’t care… people that play every day probably hate it because people like me that only play on the weekends can come in and spank them, I get it, it’s probably frustrating but I’m having a blast… just wish there were more content, that’s my only problem with the game! If they ever change anything to do with the mechanics of this game and I feel like it’s because of you… IM GOING TO FIND YOU!
@yoyo219262 жыл бұрын
yeah i like the strafing but the aiming could be a littlle smoother, somwhere in between mcc and infinite.
@Shotzzilla2 жыл бұрын
They need to add modern aiming to infinte like MCC. Can someone on here go on the halowaypoint forums and tell them to add MCC modern aim and link this video because I am banned on there 😆😭😭 please save halo!!!
@Omabatfartsbruh2 жыл бұрын
that whole movement thing is pretty dumb from a development standpoint, i knew something was off when my sniper aim was wack i thought it was hitboxes, and in a way it is, but that whole "delay" from moving away from the current direction makes things SO much easier to aim, i'm surprised not a lot of games don't have this it's so subtle that not a lot of people think about it
@Cognitoman2 жыл бұрын
Dude is that true they are making aim assist work while jumping for season 2?
@criticalinfinite49452 жыл бұрын
In the outcomes report, it's mentioned that many players seem to think that aim assist changes when jumping. They go on to say that aim assist isn't intended to do that, and they're right. What the community misunderstands is that while jumping, reticle tracking interferes with your aim.... I talked about this directly in the video. It's simply a design flaw inherent to how the game is designed.
@Cognitoman2 жыл бұрын
@@criticalinfinite4945 ohh yeah... hopefully they can fix it
@evanshipley41832 жыл бұрын
Bro that's just broken having zero deadzones they need to fix this game and make mnk a bit more viable
@donkeyjoe47822 жыл бұрын
Using a controller in this game is essentially aim bot
@autokrft2 жыл бұрын
I like your videos but I'm pretty sure almost 100% of the highest level players in MCC all play on controller
@elijahroselinsky27442 жыл бұрын
Because of history. If you played mouse and keyboard for halo CE and got good with it, it’s better.
@autokrft2 жыл бұрын
@@elijahroselinsky2744 um no, it's inherently better to play halo with a controller because of how strong the aim assist is.. the best mouse players in the world would still get dumpstered by controller players
@Lin_Eileen2 жыл бұрын
@@autokrft You are right it is a flaw in the argument because Halo pro scene went to MCC for some time and it was dominated by controllers entirely even though MnK was allowed to compete, they just couldn't because aim assist in every Halo game is extremely strong the clip of him trying to miss intentionally while AA is active on Halo Reach says it all, he basically couldn't miss. Aim assist has always been insane in Halo I think people are forgetting that Halo wasn't designed as a competitive multiplayer shooter in the Esports sense. It was designed as a couch multiplayer game first which means it's inherently casual. Bungie intentionally made aiming and shooting a breeze because they knew it was really hard to aim on controllers and they wanted people to not be frustrated with their game. People who says it's just because of history and controller players having much more time in the Halo series.... Halo has been on PC since 2003 the mnk Halo scene has had plenty of time to start to get good at HCE and H2 well before MCC was ever a thing. There just isn't a lot of high level mnk players cause they can't compete with the controller players it's like they are playing an entirely different game. The way Summit put it when describing how he feels aiming in Infinite is how it actually is in every Halo if you use mnk against controllers it's like you are trying so hard and they just beam you and go about their day like you're just an inconvenience and not actual competition.
@th3fr3nchon332 жыл бұрын
Nobody knows that exept for the 8400 that have seen this video
@nazeer03142 жыл бұрын
2thousand players now no this dundum
@chrisofblades51672 жыл бұрын
they need to make M&K better, or honestly NERF controller ffs
@krileym2 жыл бұрын
NOT EVEN THE PROS
@LetterB22 жыл бұрын
I prefer 120 FOV & 0 center deadzones, I consistently get perfects and the head shots I am after, I tried 78 FOV & you're simply at a disadvantage because you can't see besides you.
@TheWiz2082 жыл бұрын
You should meet somewhere in the middle. If you don’t like 78 (which is too hindering imo too) try 102-108. Most pros are on 95-108.
@LetterB22 жыл бұрын
@@TheWiz208 I'll give it a shot :D
@Cognitoman2 жыл бұрын
Yeah aiming and strafing is shit
@vendetta5x11 Жыл бұрын
This video is like... You took the common consensus and just said the opposite... Some of this is legit. Left stick aiming for example. But some of this is hot garbage. Turn your FOV all the way DOWN?