Simplex Chatter On The Beach Almost Eliminated with Proper Ground Balancing

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@staciedavis5274
@staciedavis5274 2 жыл бұрын
A very good 👍 instructions you teach 🙏🏿🙋‍♀️
@DaveFelder
@DaveFelder 3 жыл бұрын
Just got my Simplex+ and your video is a great help. Thanks for taking the time to learn the machine and thanks for making your videos.
@susansmith6680
@susansmith6680 4 жыл бұрын
Always helping all of us. Thank you.
@bens3067
@bens3067 4 жыл бұрын
glad you had the patience to figure things out..Most people would have given up long ago.
@johnnyhiett
@johnnyhiett 4 жыл бұрын
Thanx GM! And that mention of the frequency shift in some cases will help on the beach as well.
@robertwolfe2971
@robertwolfe2971 2 жыл бұрын
I like how you covered the ground balance mineralization chart on the instructions manual that should cover up north in the heavily mineralized ground.
@xstreamingdigital6233
@xstreamingdigital6233 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for getting back out there so quick. Big difference. Would like to see a frequency shift and 1 notch below full, on sensitivity too. Thanks Again.
@bengraham9324
@bengraham9324 4 жыл бұрын
Great vid. Upgraded from fors core. This is pretty simple..that background i love when balanced, i know my machine working at all times beside you hear the targets!
@RandolphRelicRecovery
@RandolphRelicRecovery 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for that 👍 I'm waiting for mine to ship. I was kinda spooked after the last beach video😲. Calmed me right down, thanks again😁
@austinbradley3411
@austinbradley3411 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video.
@postpandemicsurvival3701
@postpandemicsurvival3701 Жыл бұрын
Ground balance - 0 + Field mode works well and also gives you all tones in the wet. Low tones sometimes mean gold
@marcovillegas6364
@marcovillegas6364 Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for the help. You helped me out alot 🎉🎉🎉😊
@josephpecoul6532
@josephpecoul6532 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the in-depth information it is information given by someone who has learned from experience and also education so I very much appreciate you sir thank you.
@highanddryful
@highanddryful 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the information. This detector is excellent value for money , it’s offers advanced settings of which are often found on higher priced detectors. It also looks to be usser friendly. I currently have Nox 800 , my next detector is going to be a PI detector although.
@elifallin9708
@elifallin9708 4 жыл бұрын
That's amazing I figured out how to eliminate the chatter from my Equinox! 👍
@disgruntledgrunt241
@disgruntledgrunt241 4 ай бұрын
I wish I would've found this video before I went to Jax Beach today. Would've had a better day for sure and now I can't wait to go back out.
@Gigmaster
@Gigmaster 4 ай бұрын
Next time!
@2003rgalan
@2003rgalan 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks very much from Mexico.
@j.r.digging-it-back7356
@j.r.digging-it-back7356 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for redoing the review, glad to hear your surprise once ground balance. HH
@cliffordblack5103
@cliffordblack5103 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video learned alot.
@zygimantassvazasgitara
@zygimantassvazasgitara 3 жыл бұрын
Thx you so much for info, finally i understand how it works.
@ronalddvorak1967
@ronalddvorak1967 4 жыл бұрын
Very informative video Gigmaster, you did a great job. I guess you don't read the comments on setting ground balance to 00. I and EnglandsHistory said to manual ground balance the detector. Anyway you have it corrected and looking forward to seeing you next video on the beach.
@KernowekTim
@KernowekTim 4 жыл бұрын
Cool, I thought a manual GB might help calm the NMS chatter down . Thank you for being thorough with the test. ATB & HH.
@slowtaknow
@slowtaknow 4 жыл бұрын
Had no idea about a beep, i need a fuller manual i guess. Still learning it myself.
@jerrydineen2827
@jerrydineen2827 4 жыл бұрын
Steve you put out some of the best how to videos, I hope some metal detector manufacturer picks you up. Thank you!
@Gigmaster
@Gigmaster 4 жыл бұрын
Jerry Dineen Not sure if I want that. I like being able to say what I see!
@robertwolfe2971
@robertwolfe2971 2 жыл бұрын
What most people don't know is the ground balance mineralization chart comes handy in most areas.when you look at the bar in bottom left side of mineralation bar on the screen.if you for example 50 percent of the bar covered and your getting chatter.then go to the ground balance mineralization chart and see which setting it says to a just your ground balance value number to like it might say on the mineralization chart 50 to 60 just for example.
@luettnpietoutdoor
@luettnpietoutdoor Ай бұрын
thx for this video
@englandshistory
@englandshistory 4 жыл бұрын
Look forward to seeing how you get on with it in future beach hunts
@treasurehuntingscotlandmud9340
@treasurehuntingscotlandmud9340 2 жыл бұрын
Enjoyed the video well done on the finds
@mtslyh
@mtslyh 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for doing this. My guess though is that you are losing a very large amount of depth when you set the ground balance that low. The reality is that single frequency machines just don't work very well in salty conditions. No detector manufacturer (including Nokta) has been able to solve this problem in the past so I doubt that Nokta has been able to solve it now in such a cheap machine. For someone who rarely goes to the beach (vacation, etc) then your manual ground balance trick might be "good enough", but veteran beach hunters like yourself are going to end up sticking with the multi frequency machines.
@lerosh2226
@lerosh2226 10 ай бұрын
Well the xterra pro works just fine down to around a foot,,single frequency on salt wet ,,?
@khaledpescacoins3206
@khaledpescacoins3206 4 жыл бұрын
very nice machine my freind thanks for sharing my freind and great video
@shayneu9445
@shayneu9445 3 жыл бұрын
manual also said to raise it up and down from 1 to 8 inches off the ground. i have been ground balancing every 5-10 min to reduce chatter
@l.h.c.powerwashing7289
@l.h.c.powerwashing7289 4 жыл бұрын
Cant wait to get one. Thanks for mentioning culpepper,its where I live and hunt :)
@robertwolfe2971
@robertwolfe2971 2 жыл бұрын
In beach mode
@charlesmcdo1884
@charlesmcdo1884 4 жыл бұрын
Great
@englandshistory
@englandshistory 4 жыл бұрын
Told ya 👍🏼👍🏼 00.0 on most beaches and it will perform stable
@beachdetectingireland3984
@beachdetectingireland3984 4 жыл бұрын
Its still a chatterbox. This thing would drive me nuts
@Garedot
@Garedot Жыл бұрын
Very good information, Simplex came to change the game in the Metal Detector companies. Bravo Nokta-Makro
@markfiorella7447
@markfiorella7447 4 жыл бұрын
nice video
@lerosh2226
@lerosh2226 10 ай бұрын
Hi guys,,have you tried using park 2 and down to manual 0.0,,ot works too ,,best of luck matey,,,
@bodyguardwr
@bodyguardwr 4 жыл бұрын
Gigmaster, Thank you for taking the time to redo the stability issue by ground balancing the Nokta Makro Simplex+. Now I noticed that you turned the Sensitivity or Gain all of the way up before you Ground Balanced the Machine. This would cause any high gain detector to exhibit instability especially in high alkaline or highly mineralized ground conditions. No manufacturer directs or suggests operators turning the gain all of the way up before or when ground balancing. Ground Balancing should be performed at the preset gain or sensitivity level, then the gain should be adjusted as high as you can go without experiencing excessive instability or chatter. To be fair I would like to see the gain on the Nox turned all of the way up at the beach and ground balanced and run that way. Give it a try. Thanks
@beachdetectingireland3984
@beachdetectingireland3984 4 жыл бұрын
I've ran my nox wide open , full gain on the beach with no problems . Notice the simplex going off when coil hits the sand , same is going to happen when coil is hit by waves . Compared to the nox this machine is very unstable ,, for me the simplex is still chattering and after a few hrs of chirping it would simply drive me nuts . For beach hunting you need either pulse induction or multi frequency , for now there's no other way around it .
@bodyguardwr
@bodyguardwr 4 жыл бұрын
Understood. Is your beach as mineralized or alkalized as the beach that Gigmaster hunts?
@beachdetectingireland3984
@beachdetectingireland3984 4 жыл бұрын
@@bodyguardwr that I can't say as I'm based in Ireland.
@ringhunter1006
@ringhunter1006 Жыл бұрын
Hello fellow hunters it’s now 03/08/23 I am about to hit Virginia beach at a negative tide I just checked out my hunt area and there are numerous low spots complete with a mile or so of fresh shelving and in a couple of hours it will be water free oh thanks for the video I will be using my gold finding Simplex + I used to use Garrett At pro wore out three of those with super results in 13 years so wish me luck sorry no video I lost my cube GoPro moter cycling 😎
@Gigmaster
@Gigmaster Жыл бұрын
Good luck!
@danno5805
@danno5805 Жыл бұрын
How'd it go? Any luck 🤔
@ringhunter1006
@ringhunter1006 Жыл бұрын
@@danno5805 I found a 1920/21 Mercury dime a silver earring some change and zip on gold anything but nice weather a little cold n windy but nice.
@minirmonedharelaks80
@minirmonedharelaks80 4 жыл бұрын
Like video detecting 👍
@darimanc1
@darimanc1 4 жыл бұрын
hi gigmaster so the simplex can be used in sea water without having too many false signals? thanks
@SunsTo7
@SunsTo7 4 жыл бұрын
After doing auto ground balance,does the machine auto track and adjust the balance according to the matrix?
@jboat571x9
@jboat571x9 4 жыл бұрын
You’re too nice gig
@mark35mi
@mark35mi 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Worth paying the additional for the headphones? Seems Nokta uses a proprietary system... and not bluetooth.
@somebeachdetecting
@somebeachdetecting 4 жыл бұрын
Well we all have our good days and bad days sometimes we think things are way and there the other but that's part of human nature. thanks for the recap.
@diggindiggenit6540
@diggindiggenit6540 4 жыл бұрын
Typically the entry level machines do not have so many functions and options, looking good.
@robertwolfe2971
@robertwolfe2971 2 жыл бұрын
And the frequency shift
@Tofasttodrive
@Tofasttodrive 4 жыл бұрын
I will stay with my nox but great info for the guys that have it
@coloneldan3816
@coloneldan3816 4 жыл бұрын
Significant reduction in chatter after GB but I still very much prefer the multi frequency Minelabs over any single frequency machine at the beach...just the personal view from my foxhole! :-)
@ItsSusieQue96
@ItsSusieQue96 2 жыл бұрын
Not all of us can afford a Minelab….Gig’s trying to help us-why throw sand in our faces?
@SunsTo7
@SunsTo7 4 жыл бұрын
Be advised. If you do to much positive ground balance you could be screening out Gold.
@shakeme3290
@shakeme3290 4 жыл бұрын
I would like to see the difference it made with the coil actually submerged in the water and waves
@robertwolfe2971
@robertwolfe2971 2 жыл бұрын
Last page says set the ground balance to 0.00
@robertwolfe2971
@robertwolfe2971 2 жыл бұрын
It does have a iron warning sound.
@jmc4181
@jmc4181 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Steve. I have a Garrett AT Pro. I live by the beach. Im a semi-novice. I bought the Garrett because it said waterproof. But in salt water or the shoreline it’s crazy. I’ve tried GB but no effect. Any tips?
@godrick2010
@godrick2010 2 жыл бұрын
It looks like ur in all metal mode
@MrAkitaDog
@MrAkitaDog 4 жыл бұрын
Supposed to be terrible in iron. I have no idea but would love you to check that out.
@Underwatermetaldetecting
@Underwatermetaldetecting 4 жыл бұрын
Gold in the sand I use my simplex in the iron it does really well for the price point. Everyone is expecting it to act like a thousand dollar machine. I also own an Ace 300 that was the exact same price and simplex obviously blows it away. Perspective is key. If you have the nox 6-800 then there’s no reason to change.
@texascrossbowdude636
@texascrossbowdude636 Жыл бұрын
I'm in Tx with sand being high minerals. My AT Pro had lots if chatter and false readings. Was Considering the nox 600 and maybe the simplex or legend but neither seem as smooth as the nox. Any thoughts?
@Gigmaster
@Gigmaster Жыл бұрын
If you are not going to submerge the pod go with the nox.
@texascrossbowdude636
@texascrossbowdude636 Жыл бұрын
@@Gigmaster thanks for your input. Love your videos and your knowledge sharing. I also hunt in rivers and lay my detector in the water, do you think a nox would be ok by laying it on the water and has the simplex been pretty much water tight. Any thoughts on the legend vs the simplex.
@Gigmaster
@Gigmaster Жыл бұрын
I do bot know of any reports of the legend leaking. It performs better than the Simplex in salt water.
@texascrossbowdude636
@texascrossbowdude636 Жыл бұрын
@@Gigmaster thank you sir
@metaldetectingwithdoctorri9947
@metaldetectingwithdoctorri9947 4 жыл бұрын
Hello Gigmaster, man I wish we could go metal detecting togehter one day?
@danno5805
@danno5805 Жыл бұрын
How deep a target can you find after ground balancing? Just wondering because my AT PRO loses a lot of depth after I ground balance.
@Gigmaster
@Gigmaster Жыл бұрын
ATPro has trouble on the beach.
@danno5805
@danno5805 Жыл бұрын
@@Gigmaster yeah I know. I was wondering how deep your machine goes. I'm looking to buy something else. Thanks.
@Gigmaster
@Gigmaster Жыл бұрын
Legend has been doing good for me and won’t break the bank! Call Don 706-264-6011 and tell him I sent you!
@westdk6705
@westdk6705 4 жыл бұрын
Make sure that GB is on zero it works on Makro Kruzer !!!
@PureBlood42
@PureBlood42 2 жыл бұрын
First of all, thank you for this presentation. Secondly, I'm only heading to the shores of Lake Erie with my Simplex+, so no salt water, but maybe some black sand? Lastly, I noticed the manufacturer onscreen memo pop-up as you began balancing. It says, 2-4 pumps, but you did 26 pumps. It's my understanding you did so many excessive pumps to bring the numbers down to a low enough factor to overcome all the saltwater sand chatter. So, if I take my unit out to, say....the freshwater beach here in Ohio or a rural farm, would I just pump it up and down until I get the first beep from the unit?
@robertwolfe2971
@robertwolfe2971 2 жыл бұрын
Suppose to raise the coil about 8 inches high until it beeps.
@PureBlood42
@PureBlood42 2 жыл бұрын
@@robertwolfe2971 - So no up and pumping at all?
@robertwolfe2971
@robertwolfe2971 2 жыл бұрын
I don't think he was raising the coil high enough but it did work eventually.remember only in wet sand.up north at the great lakes if you get chatter in the other mode when detecting.look at the ground mineralization bar 0-99 left bottom corner on land if your getting chatteryou might have to push the settings button go to ground balance mode the second emblem on the left hand half side the coil with the two arrows .You will be in ground balance go to the ground balance value number and if the bar says 50 percent or 70 then that what you would change the value numbers to if it says 71 or 72 then that's what you change it to.it might say 73 .thats what the bar and mineralization charts for sometimes the automatic ground balance doesnt set it to the right ground balance level.most of the time it does only do this if your detector won't ground balance push the middle top button the one with the arrow going in a circle it will return you to the mode you was in and the automatic ground balance will be more accurate in a heavily mineralized area like the great lakes area when ground balancing only if the detector won't ground balance properly in modes other than all metal.last two pages of instructions manual.
@robertwolfe2971
@robertwolfe2971 2 жыл бұрын
First try a frequency shift if the detector keeps chattering you might .If your ground balance value number are saying 60 and your getting chatter and you look down at the mineralization bar and it look more than 60 more like 71 then change the ground balance value number to 71.the chart show you the recommended numbers in different areas.i know the great lakes area has a lot of Harvey iron mineralization.some detectors have to be manually ground balanced even though the have automatic ground balance
@robertwolfe2971
@robertwolfe2971 2 жыл бұрын
This is without going into almetal mode
@haastnation9922
@haastnation9922 3 жыл бұрын
Let it auto ground balance then drop it on notch lower on sensitivity. Going full sensitivity on dry land chatters let alone on the water line. Trust me on that.
@billbarry2984
@billbarry2984 2 жыл бұрын
Can you do the anfibio on tge Beach?
@feorr1
@feorr1 4 жыл бұрын
so a little noise is ok
@claudeladow2334
@claudeladow2334 4 жыл бұрын
I guess good entry level machine after all. If I were a beach only hunter, I would pass though.
@claudeladow2334
@claudeladow2334 4 жыл бұрын
Or second, back up machine.
@Big-Rouge
@Big-Rouge 4 жыл бұрын
Sounds like you have a new daily machine GiG? Selling your Nox’s at a discount now? Lol
@Gigmaster
@Gigmaster 4 жыл бұрын
K Bigrouge No way! Still think Equinox has an edge just bot on price!!
@BluelightGaming1
@BluelightGaming1 4 жыл бұрын
Seems like alot of chatter still on the beach
@wbrian
@wbrian 3 жыл бұрын
So, does the Simplex get a gigmaster recommendation? Want to get a detector for the VA Beach saltwater so I can give you a little competition! :-)
@Gigmaster
@Gigmaster 3 жыл бұрын
It is a good machine for the price. Waterproof too.
@tomtripptree5079
@tomtripptree5079 4 жыл бұрын
Did It false when the wave hit the coil
@Gigmaster
@Gigmaster 4 жыл бұрын
Tom Tripptree Yes
@jamespayne6068
@jamespayne6068 4 жыл бұрын
As I said, I live 600 miles from salt water, but I reckon just in case------------
@georgesocci7034
@georgesocci7034 4 жыл бұрын
simplex not for me Steve
@MrJega16
@MrJega16 3 жыл бұрын
That machine makes noise all the time even when you ground balance to 0 ,I don't want to know when you get in on the water ,I think is a piece of garbage for hunting on the beach , I see other detector that make 0 noise on the water
@Gigmaster
@Gigmaster 3 жыл бұрын
Agree there are better ones but if cost is a factor it is not too bad.
@lancemcilwainoutcastmetald5398
@lancemcilwainoutcastmetald5398 4 жыл бұрын
I don’t know. It still sounds extremely chatty even after ground balance to me
@robertwolfe2971
@robertwolfe2971 2 жыл бұрын
If you can't use this machine it's because you didn't use the instructions.
@davidnaves7220
@davidnaves7220 3 жыл бұрын
I’m disappointed in this machine
@gwcracker
@gwcracker 4 жыл бұрын
You would do well to delete the previous Simplex video.. Bad information!
@Gigmaster
@Gigmaster 4 жыл бұрын
gwcracker Agree I just put it to private
@mikesteyn4470
@mikesteyn4470 3 жыл бұрын
Do you have to shout so loud my ears!!
@bleirdo_dude
@bleirdo_dude 2 жыл бұрын
Not shouting loud enough.
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