Is It Bad That Kids Want To Be YouTubers? - SimplyPodLogical #56

On this episode of SimplyPodLogical, Cristine and Ben talk about opinion polls, why so many kids want to be KZbinrs, the pressure of knowing what you want to be when you grow up, good vs. bad role models, David Dobrik's apology and toxic masculinity.
0:00 - Hey what’s up holo everyone
3:35 - What's the source of this data?
14:49 - Why do so many young people want to be KZbinrs?
16:09 - Should we ask kids what they want to be when they grow up?
19:53 - Why kids don't want to be astronauts anymore
22:28 - Realistic job expectations
26:55 - Parental pressure
30:22 - Should parents be concerned their kids want to be KZbinrs?
36:11 - A lot of popular KZbinrs are who 12 year olds think are cool
36:45 - David Dobrik group culture and toxic masculinity
41:02 - Cristine's experience as a young woman
45:16 - What was missing from David Dobrik’s apology
49:42 - Positive KZbin role models
53:07 - Are we too negative about KZbin as a career path?
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[@tiffanyferg]

When I was like 5, I wanted to be a pop star (inspired by Britney Spears in the year 2000 lmao). throughout elementary school I wanted to be a teacher. I’d been doing KZbin as a hobby since I was 12 and when that became a job for some creators, I wanted to be a full time KZbinr. By 16/17 I wanted to work in film or be a comedian. Totally agree, this fearmongering about what kids want to do when they grow up is just ridiculous. Why do we act like pursuing art would be so impossible or silly?? Let kids explore their interests and dreams! Even as adults, our interests and goals change constantly. As someone who is actually a youtuber now, I still don’t know what else I’d want to pursue in the future. Maybe instead of constantly asking kids what job they want when they grow up, why don’t we just ask them about what they enjoy? What are your passions? What do you want to learn more about? Teach them that people are more than their jobs 🤘🏻

[@ninaasf-ck]

This. When I was little and adults would ask me what I wanted to be when I grew up, I just told them whatever I thought they wanted to hear (the truth would've been "I don't know, I'm a child, I want to play with Legos, thanks" but no adult wants to hear that).

[@pterocardio]

it's all cause of capitalism, let's be honest. the education system is just a labor factory and other sociocultural institutions work hard to support it. that's why the only educational programs that are funded are those that capitalism deems are necessary.

[@calmlycollecting3367]

I agree! Every kid wants to do what they like, and share with people what they like. Literally, finding a rock or a seashell is on the ground a kid will run to find someone to share it with.

[@jamiemacrae4484]

Exactly this. IMO It's really important to foster a sense in kids that fulfillment and happiness do not have to be tied to work, or a 'dream job'. It's one of the functions of capitalism to keep people invested in their job as a way to find meaning in life, and for alot of people that's just not true.

[@lauraigla6319]

Asking them their passions and what they want to learn about is so helpful! I felt trapped when asked what I wanted to be, like I had to have it all figured out on my own and no one to guide me

[@itscamilleyall]

When my boyfriend was 3, his uncles convinced him to be a brick when he grew up... Not a bricklayer or construction worker. A brick. So from ages 3 to 5, he thought he was going to turn into a brick when he got older.

[@emilycaulfeild5195]

I can’t tell if that’s mean or funny? But also I feel like it’s entirely possible that I would do this😶

[@itscamilleyall]

@@emilycaulfeild5195 it is very much hilarious

[@micahedgehill494]

amazing i fully support him

[@pumpkinprincess3786]

honestly same... I wanna be a brick too

[@kateanderson3560]

A kid I used to baby sit wanted to be a fire truck when he grew up. Not a fireman. A fire truck.

[@A_ree_ta]

Asking 6 year olds what they want to be when they grow up and expecting them to want to be productive members of society 🤣

[@Zxgrhexbj]

I completely agree. Even if there are kids who want to be KZbinrs when they grow up why is it a shock that a kid wants to do something that they have seen to be fun? There are some gaming KZbinrs who have said they are so appreciative that they get to “play games for a living” of course a child is going to get excited over that. Shit man when I was little I wanted to be a mermaid.

[@hailyjohnson407]

😂😂 yeah. I wanted to be an angel until I was like 7 or 8 and realized that angels are generally seen as people who have already died, so then I changed my mind. I just wanted to help people and be able to fly lmao. Some kids wanna be a teacher, which gets applauded, but most if them don't want to do it because they care about the future generations, they just think that their teacher is cool and it looks fun to hang out with kids all day. The kids who do want jobs considered "proper" usually want it because they think it looks cool or fun.

[@TheOneTheyCallTim]

this

[@Hannah-qo2es]

Around that age I said I wanted to be a Walmart cashier because “look at all the money they are making!” (I thought they personally kept the value of all the items purchased...) 🤦🏻‍♀️

[@inshort6831]

I wanted to be a cat, still do now tbh but unfortunately I cannot

[@hthrnbls1722]

Can we talk about how good Cristine’s hair looks!?!? 😍

[@staciev8917]

❤

[@nail_fiend1962]

I was going to comment that too, it looks beautiful! :D

[@lilinessy]

It looks so healthy and shiny!

[@dominiquefish]

Ben is a lucky guy!

[@simplypodlogical]

I actually did something to it lol

[@melbapeach162]

Ben and Cris getting emotional talking about that horrible Facebook group.. 😢 sad thing is I feel like the majority of girls would have at least one similar story from their own experience and it's depressing.

[@mystiqueivy]

i felt so bad for Cris this ep

[@juliarodriguez3375]

And It's even sader that there are a lot of people (man and women) who don't grow out of this ideas and continue to harm other people or teach that to their children

[@hollysmith7828]

This really reminded me of the Warwick university WhatsApp group scandal where women were talked about in such derogatory ways, all in the name of “lad culture”

[@ClarityEmerald]

And people wonder why women are afraid to tell men “no”.

[@liisaky]

Yeah my school had a fb group with guys and they basically discussed which girls they wanna bang there

[@pixiedust429]

No eye roll after Ben says 'super simps'. Has Cristine finally embraced our squad name 🤣

[@brileonn]

Did you see his little 👀 look to Cristine shortly after he said it? maybe checking for a reaction hahaha

[@pixiedust429]

@@brileonn I didn't notice!! Good catch haha

[@simplypodlogical]

the camera angle changed so u didn't see🤣

[@pixiedust429]

@@simplypodlogical dang it Cristine!! I was so hopeful 😭

[@mystiqueivy]

@@simplypodlogical i thought you manipulated those and could decide what to show and what not loolol

[@sallyhermine]

Cristine's take on frat boys and David Dobrik was so spot on I got teary eyed because I have the exact same experience/opinions. Women get punished for being women.

[@MsFrakaka]

Beyn: neither me or my brother are doctors Matt's doctorate in Mathematics: Am I a joke to you? 👁👄👁

[@yazbasarslan]

well that doesnt mean he is a doctor tho

[@yuzukakarube1519]

@@yazbasarslan In an academic setting, he would be addressed as Dr. Mazowita!

[@yazbasarslan]

@@yuzukakarube1519 hahahha yeah but i was thinking the doctors who heal people instead of academic doctors

[@mattmazowita1757]

THANKS FOR DEFENDING ME JESS

[@prisazy8093]

@@mattmazowita1757 😂😂

[@siggyswatches]

I could listen to Ben and Cristine talk about bad research methodology for literal days on end. 😂

[@rholou]

same, I've just started working in research and I find the episodes where they talk about their day jobs so fascinating!

[@H3110NU]

I have similar day job but on a different subject matter and the amount of time I end up explaining this sort f stuff to people is amazing. I never thought data retention periods and why collecting some data is so vital would be interesting to people.

[@Syd448]

SAME. My degree is in statistics and analytics, so it’s extremely interesting to me to see them pull apart these surveys lol

[@Faleriih19]

SAME. My degree is actually in Sociology, currently working in research and i love whenever they talk about these topics. It's fascinating.

[@annabethchase4582]

they could probably talk about it for days on end too 😂

[@mayamattison]

When I was a kid my mom told me I could be anything I wanted when I grew up as long as it: 1. made me happy 2. paid my bills 3. was legal (She was a high school teacher and told her students this too, which is why number 3 got added in there lol)

[@mayamattison]

@cats with corona I’m sorry to hear that :( I definitely feel very lucky to have her as my mom.

[@hailyjohnson407]

Same thing my parents told me! They told us all the time "I dont care if you want to be a lawyer or a garbage pickup man, as long as you're happy and can provide for your family, that's all that matters." Now Im finishing my bachelor's in psychology, and then plan to go to med school to be a psychiatrist, my brother just started college as a physics major but is considering switvhing majors to a different science area, and my little sister is a junior in high school but wants to go to college for zoology.

[@mayamattison]

@@hailyjohnson407 that’s so awesome!! Congrats on finishing your degree! I just finished my marketing degree in December :)

[@hailyjohnson407]

@@mayamattisonThank you! I would finish it next semester if I hadn't transferred universities and added pre-med at the beginning of my junior year 😂 I only have like 3 classes left in my psych degree and 2 core classes to make up that didn't transfer (this is the end of my junior year) but I'm going to be a super senior for a year instead so I can finish all the med school requirements. But it's worth it to do the extra year instead of graduating early so I can do what I really want.

[@hailyjohnson407]

@@mayamattison also, congrats on your degree! I know a few marketing majors who had some crazy hard term projects, so I know it's not easy.

[@siggyswatches]

Christine’s story at 42:30 had me 🥺🥺🥺 It’s sad that this is a pretty universal experience for young girls and women.

[@aminaamgadr]

This David Dobrik situation reminds me of Shane Dawson; this is like how people would call Shane out for things he was doing and they were getting backlash, I remember seeing comments on David's videos of people telling him that what he was doing was not okay, and they were getting backlash. The fact that it took a girl getting sexually assaulted finally made people realize how sick and twisted his and his friends' jokes are is actually sad.

[@bb-sophia]

agreed. i got emotional when they started talking about the situation in a non-drama perspective because a LOT of females have been put in uncomfortable situations where some men have dehumanized them. I dealt with that when I was in middle school, lots of sexual innuendos for me just eating a banana at lunch or more seriously, getting shamed and called a prude by an ex when i didn’t “serve” him. i’m so happy they discussed it in a serious manner that truly displays the problem of even the smaller scale ’jokes’ in bro-culture.

[@recoil53]

The problem is wider than that - any famous/popular person is supported that way. There were rumors around Bill Cosby for years, but it never stuck. Same with Louis CK. And for years everybody who spoke out got hammered down. Finally, when investigations began the truth came out. Many people said they couldn't say or do anything and just gave them a wide berth. Definitely happens on the school level too - can't do anything about a popular kid who is secretly/no so secretly a $hit.

[@marissaparker5153]

That’s always the frustrating part-they only stop/apologize when their reputation is on the line rather than because it’s the right thing to do. Makes you wonder who actually learns and grows from these scandals

[@alanal3768]

It’s not inherently bad for kids to have the want to become KZbinrs, but I would not allow my own child to run a KZbin channel until they are old enough to understand what they are doing.

[@makeupdiaries6438]

This. And they should also understand the consequences of their actions in this platform. It doesn't matter much what age they are. God knows, youtube is full of adult idiots.

[@cablekar]

@@makeupdiaries6438 so god knows what's going on in the KZbin platform?

[@makeupdiaries6438]

@@cablekar you know it's a common expression, right?

[@Stettafire]

I think that's responsible

[@kayenjee]

🙌🏼 Exactly.

[@___Emily__]

Cristine is an empathetic, kind, smart woman and nobody can ever take that away (clearly). Whoever started that Facebook group about Cristine was just immature, couldn’t handle rejection, and was trying to save face amongst his male peers by making her a punchline. It hurt and it wasn’t okay, but she moved on and she’s grown while I doubt all those men have grown. If anyone ever does something like that, it says so much more about who THEY are. To women and men alike, you don’t ever need to defend your choices or reputation against terrible people who challenge, question, and attempt to humiliate you. Take it in stride and reach out to someone in your support system instead.

[@deboramobers]

I remember starting from a very young age (5/6 years old) I was pressured to get perfect scores in school and it continued with my parents checking my home work and doing mock tests with me. When I got older I started to have dream jobs, like vet, archeologist, paleontologist, anthropologist, history teacher. But nothing was good enough and they always said 'No you can't do this and no you won't be able to do that, do what we say is best for you because you need to make money because you don't want to end up behind a cash register in a supermarket.'. The things I was most passionate about, were not interesting enough. Fast forward to now; I'm 26 years old, work (at a cash register) at a pet store, suffer from PTSD, depressions, severe anxiety attacks, insomnia, identity crisis, going through weeks of EMDR, lost all my passions I had as a kid, still have no idea what to do with my life and have no idea if the decisions I'm making I'm doing it for myself or to please others...

[@fumetsushinju]

It is upsetting to see stories of parents putting so much pressure on their kids. I grew up with 4 brothers and 2 sisters. From a very young age, my parents told me, "Well, your older siblings are failures, so it's up to you to get the high paying job, so you can take care of your disabled brother, AND you can take care of us when we're senior citizens." I'm doing okay, but I have had breakdowns in front of trusted friends when I got overwhelmed with the costs associated to taking care of my disabled brother. My youngest brother recently told me, "Fuck our parents, they should never have put all that pressure on you. Just take care of yourself for now. If anything bad happens, all of us siblings will just figure it out, one day at a time." @Deborah Mobers, take a deep breath and take it one day at a time. I'm so sorry to hear about your PTSD and other conditions, but I hope you know that you're still doing okay.

[@nataliegiles2554]

@@fumetsushinju I can relate. My older brother failed out of high school and is an addict and my parents are older than most. I've always known from a super young age that I had to compensate for him and have the responsibility of taking care of my parents. I agree it's not a good thing to put all this responsibility on your kids from such a young age

[@deboramobers]

@@fumetsushinju How horrible it must have been as a child to hear 'Well, your older siblings are failures, so it's up to you to get the high paying job' and I agree with your brother that it is not your responsibility to take care of your siblings. I'm sorry you have to go through that and as your brother said, take care of yourself! It's your own life so do with it what you want, do what makes you happy! EMDR is very challenging but I have a great psychologist and a great boyfriend who supports me in everything! Thank you

[@catnipaddict88]

Bens face when Cristine is sharing about the Facebook page made about her, is exactly how my husband looks when he hears about someone being mean to me lol so adorable

[@sazlit]

I really thought it was gonna be an April fool's podcast w/ Jen and Matt. But this is still good.😅

[@biboubip_lea]

Oh, that would've been so fun! 😂

[@simplypodlogical]

we thought about it but maybe next year 🤣

[@pvic6959]

@@simplypodlogical a year feels like a long time to wait :( but the last year went by so fast

[@glittery_cucumber]

@@pvic6959 Maybe they can do it on one of their birthdays or something :)

[@Scrofar]

tbh, taco tuesday and april fools didn't line up this year x'D

[@erinodonnell386]

The “shop talk” / “locker room talk” excuse for demeaning women has to end. Having young boys/men perpetuate these behaviors reinforces in their minds and in the minds of those around them that they’re acceptable. They’re not. Treating women like pieces of meat, even only among other men, is messed up no matter what the context and setting that kind of example for other young boys and men is despicable.

[@roxypicasso66]

i 100% agree. the phrase “boys will be boys” invokes the same thoughts from me as well. to further the point, we should also stop assuming that girls at a sleepover are only “talking about boys,” and quit turning a blind eye to women objectifying men as well. by saying that, i’m not implying that it’s a bigger problem than men objectifying women, i’m just adding onto your point :)

[@rai1879]

When I was 5 I wanted to be a cat. When I was 12 I wanted to be a zoologist. When I was 16 I wanted to be a violin teacher. When I went to uni at 18 I went into a music degree. But at 20 I switched to linguistics and translation where I am now. At 24 I can say that I want to be a cat lady 😅 Also I am trying to become an audiovisual translator, basically doing subtitles for movies, translating scripts, and probably video games too 🙂

[@zucchini3857]

Hey thats really cool!! Hopefully you get to become an audiovisual translator if you continue to want to pursue it! It sounds like such an interesting job, good luck :)

[@Kali9355]

hey there, fellow linguistics and translation student! wish you all the best with your studies!

[@plusrien12]

When I was 5 I wanted to be sailormoon When I was 12 I wanted to be detective conan When I was 18 I wanted to be a president When I was 27 I wanted to be a cat Don't know what went wrong

[@bellajosephine7879]

Lol

[@zucchini3857]

At 5 i wanted to be an artist At 12 i wanted to be an artist At 16 i wanted to be an artist, specifically an animator or story board artist. Maybe a graphic designer or illustrator. At 17 been pursuing classes in animation and music. Been thinking maybe a librarian at least, or physical therapist as back up I suppose. Perhaps Im a fool, wished I wanted to pursue being a nurse or something. A physical therapist. Something conventional. I end up envying people who just love math or science, who want to do something that is based on the two. At least its accepted. Too bad I suck at and really dont like both ahhh, I don’t know what pulls me to want to be an animator so badly but man have I not let it go. Maybe its a good thing.

[@enikovarga2533]

I'm starting to have a thought that people who swear they would never be parents, would be so much better parents than some who actually have kids. This applies to Cristine and Ben too, I think. They seem to be so accepting, empathing and loving. Thank you Cristine and Ben for being parental figures.

[@KazekageOfTheFunk]

I think the sad reality is that a very substantial amount of children are made by accident by people who are irresponsible, aren't prepared for kids and don't have the tolerance to actually raise them, or they're made by people on purpose for selfish reasons (passing on the name, 'we're expected to have them', etc). I know someone who got pregnant on purpose in order to get more assets in her divorce and to essentially use the fetus as a bargaining chip. Needless to say, we are no longer friends.

[@mxdaras]

i agree. i dont want kids- primarily because I'm lesbian but also because of how my father treats me. if I have kids, ill devote my whole self to be a perfect parent. id be a good mom, I know id be, but its that constant fear of "will i turn out like my dad and treat them like shit?". for the most part, these days, gen-z is accepting of everything, with the exception of some people.

[@mystiqueivy]

i think about this often. im chilfree myself, but just this morning I saw an interview with john cena. he would have made an amazing dad, had he wanted to be one! but I respect him so much for sticking with his choice!

[@NiteLights]

I'd have to agree on this too. My mama was in her late 40s when she realized she actually wanted a kid, so she adopted me. By that time, she had read just about every popular parenting book, and had quite a few friends around her who had raised kids of their own. She knew what she was getting into and truly wanted to raise a child, so I think that helped a lot.

[@watchmereneenae]

My friends and I talk about this sometimes as well. (I’m 15 btw). Nine of us feel as if we ever want to have children, but we all are very much like Ben and Christine, responsible, get good grades, etc

[@amygirl1983]

My boys want to be blacksmiths and small business owners. 🤷🏼‍♀️ They are 7 and 10 and I fully support it.

[@collyflower6623]

Love this!

[@YvetteAguilarx]

That’s so cute! And as a parent all you can do is support them in their endeavors ✨

[@taylorhoward2163]

Both my girls, 8 and 10, want to get into making their own skincare and body products. I am %100 behind them with that endeavor :)

[@fumetsushinju]

When I was in high school in 2004, I knew one boy in my class whose dream job was to be a stay-at-home dad, because family is the most important thing to him. I'm glad I knew one boy with those values, and I hope he's doing really well today

[@TrueImmortality]

Do they watch the blacksmith KZbinrs? 😂😂😂

[@niamhworrell3334]

As a thirteen year old I really don’t want to be famous I just want to sit in an aesthetic little hut in a forest surrounded by flora and fauna and sip my tea and binge read my favourite books.

[@SunDarling369]

Hey I've seen a few of your comments on here and you're around my age and seem like you have good taste. I also LOVE to read and was wondering if you got any recommendations.

[@niamhworrell3334]

@@SunDarling369 omg hiii ofc! I really love the Percy Jackson books (maybe you’ve already read them they’re pretty popular) i also like books that emotionally destroy me like The Invisible Life of Addie LaRue, Song of Achilles, All the Bright Places. Some Historical Fiction books are The Book Thief, When Hitler stole pink rabbit, upside down in the middle of nowhere, Lily at Lissadell. Some Thriller/kidnapping/murder books are Girl, Missing, The Chain (I adore this book), Stolen, City of Ghosts. Some Classics i like (even tho I don’t read classics that often) Wuthering Heights, Jane Eyre, Little Women (this is the only classic that I will recommend until the end of time) Pride and Prejudice (the og enemies to lovers). Lemme know if u want anyone genres cause I could rant abt books till the end of the world lol. Hope this helped❤️

[@niamhworrell3334]

Also one of us is lying (and one of us is next which is the sequel)

[@bladepanthera]

I want to do that and I'm almost 30. Sigh. Back to work I go.

[@SunDarling369]

@@niamhworrell3334 omg I think we're twins! I've been wanting to read the Percy Jackson books for a while now I just finished Harry Potter which I loved. And I've been been dying to read little women and pride and prejudice! I'll be sure to check out some of your other recommendations, I know I'll love them. By the way if you like historical fiction you should check out The War That Saved my Life (very emotional), and A Night Divided which is about a family being split up because of the Berlin wall. I personally am more of fantasy fan, I also love dystopian novels. If you like the same you should check out The house on the cerulean sea, the Inkheart series, and the rule of one series.

[@OriginallyKieraMarie]

I saw one David video, it was the one where he put the tarantula on Liza. It was horrifying to me and I couldn't watch him after that. I was like this is his girlfriend...and he's laughing at her being scared. Made me sick.

[@mesagoebel6931]

I'm in love with Cristine's fiery take down of toxic masculinity in this

[@mobuckey]

My earliest answer, around age 4, to what I wanted to be when I grew up was a “ballerina fireman” because I didn’t want to have to pick between a “boy” or “girl” job. I remember grownups suggesting more traditional female roles trying to change my mind asking if I wanted to be a princess, mother, teacher, nurse etc while simultaneously asking my boy best friend if he wanted to be astronaut, cop, doctor, athlete etc. I didn’t know what I really wanted to be at that age, but I knew I was being treated differently than he was. I didn’t want to choose between sports or glitter like how adults made the real world seem. I see kids answering “I want to be a KZbinr” as “I want the freedom to choose and I want to be happy” and I think that’s awesome 💕

[@emilie6122]

From my experience as a kindergarten teacher, most of my students do not say they wish to be youtubers. Some careers my students aspire for this year are: scientist, astronaut, artist, police officer, doctor, "builder", teacher, and singer. So I agree this data is not an accurate depiction of the average child.

[@bladepanthera]

Not sure why builder is in quotes, but you can earn a decent income if you work your way up the construction ladder, whether it is building homes or building other structures. You don't have to be an engineer. Maybe that kid has a builder in the family? It's an underrated dream :)

[@emilie6122]

​@@bladepanthera That was in the child's words, which I thought was a cute/sweet way to say carpenter, hence the quotation. I come from a family of carpenters so if you took that as me implying building things isn't a career you're mistaken.

[@another_make_up_artist9038]

@@emilie6122 In the UK builder (general construction) and carpenter (works with wood) are totally different jobs.

[@aureliabishh]

I’m 27 and I still don’t know what I want to be when I grow up

[@nicoledenel]

29 and although I work in something that I love (flight attendant)... with the current situation in the world I feel like I need to look for another source of income

[@proxymoxie7882]

30 checking in, pretty much same, the only thing that's helped me is learning about what I'm good at, though that realization didn't come until pretty recently.

[@IzzyKDNA]

I'm impressed by Cristine's dedication to find the initial source

[@roxypicasso66]

she sell merch on ben’s shoulders, menchie perch, but most importantly, FOR THE STATS SOURCE, SHE SEARCH

[@molnaradele]

Another issue related to becoming a youtuber is them seeing these famous people dropping out of school, which doesn't paint a good picture for the future. It might seem normal to them that education is lame, and they'd rather be a vlogger and start earning money early than continue education

[@erica1800]

True, while some KZbinrs have made a big success without an education, i still find it problematic that they belittle the importance of education and want them to not want to go through the hard parts of school because they can just find an easier route...like no school is not meant to be easy and it’s dangerous to promote to children that you can just skip the hard parts like that :(

[@still_your_zelda]

Yeah and the amount of them that think illiteracy is a joke. I’ve had to unsubscribe from youtubers who make ‘tea’ and ‘story’ videos over things that could be avoided if they just read instructions or fine print, as they should if something is meant to be a review.

[@kateinternet9673]

It sounds like Cristine finally listened to her opening song, she’s finally on-beat 😅 you go girl!

[@ninaasf-ck]

They add the music in post so that's why she's always off.... she's just singing along to it in her head 😁

[@kateinternet9673]

@@ninaasf-ck yeah ik but it actually sounds good this time! ! Before it sounded nothing like her opening song, like not close at all 😅 makes me wonder what she hears in her head 😅

[@ninaasf-ck]

@@kateinternet9673 lol maybe this is her one weakness...she doesn't have great rhythm 😆

[@thenotsotalented1]

Commenting before the end: Im sure if you interviewed children from any generation they would most likely want to be whatever is most prevalent in their contemporary pop culture. In their homes. I wanted to be a paleontologist because of jurassic park. It sounded fun to dig for bones so thats what I wanted to do. Children want to be actors, singers, astronauts, presidents, royalty etc. because it seems cool or fun or exciting. And as they age and they learn about the details of jobs they change their minds. Its fine that kids want to be KZbinrs. Its up to parents to make sure their kids get an education and understand how any job is harder than it looks. People are jusy mad that kids arent cynical realists and its embarrassing. Kids are kids. They want to have fun, be rich, popular, influential etc. They barely concieve of other occupations. So of course there arent going to be aspiring office workers or prep cooks. Like? Its old people being mad that younger people arent them as they are now.

[@daria8950]

So it's fine to have a generation that wants to make simple videos and get thousand of dollars that to have jobs that actually help society like policemen, nurses, electricians, architects....( but hey, it's easier to make a 10 min video with barely any editing that took 1 hour to film once a week than to spend years studying for something and having to actually work 5 days a week for 8 hours). I'll be pretty upset if my kid aspires to be a 'youtuber'

[@thenotsotalented1]

@@daria8950 yeah... Don't have kids. Like? Hun. You literally went and proved my final point? Which youd have known if youd have read my comment but ypu obviously didnt. Your response is embarrassing. Being upset at an actual child for wanting to be a princess or a youtuber is a gross indication of how little you understand childhood development and how little you actually value children. If you are going to be disappointed in an actual child for wanting to be your shallow reductive understanding of a youtuber? dont have children. Im serious. I work with psychologists and helped one raise a child. I am dead serious when I say that if you are upset with your own child, who doesnt have the / physical / brain development to concieve of "productivity", you are not fit to raise children. Children arent perfect little people who need a proper hand to beat realism into them. They are children. Quite being annoying qnd gross. Watch the podcast, read my comment and shut up. How embarrassing. Kids want to be wizards for gods sake. You refusing to get that kids continually change their career paths into adulthood is so damn sad.

[@thenotsotalented1]

@@daria8950 oh. Side note: your condescension is annoying too. Wah wah kids want to have fun jobs and not work 12 hour shift wah wah. Get over yourself.

[@daria8950]

@@thenotsotalented1 everyone wants to have fun jobs, feel like they aren't working and get bags with money, but hun, the world doesn't work like this and most surely doesn't need that much people doing nothing. Essential jobs are a must and if no one wants to work them good luck to you. You'll understand this when you grow older

[@Stettafire]

@@daria8950 My job is both fun and essential. It is possible to have both and the world wouldn't function if everybody was a doctor or nurse. The medical profession is a great profession to be sure, but if someone wants to be something else that's OK too.

[@adrija9340]

I mean, back when I was in middle school my classmates were really interested in KZbin, but now that I'm in my last year of high school most of them are looking to more “conventional” careers. It's just a part of being a child, I assume.

[@crohnsbeauty3820]

I totally agree with you! That when kids answer they just answer to whatever they find fun. I know someone in my kindergarten (a lot time ago) wanted to work at McDonald’s when they grew up lol.

[@victoriasyverson7490]

@@crohnsbeauty3820 lol I remember telling my mom I wanted to work at mcdonald's when I grew up and she told me I needed to do something else lol

[@cottage-core_]

I think it's like how a lot of kids wanna be pop stars or actors. It's just changing based on the tech age yk

[@adaabeja2061]

A similar thing that happened to Cristine in college happened to me my Freshman year in HS because a football player didn't get me like he wanted. He humiliated me in front of everyone in the Spanish class we had together by saying I was a whore and doing other things to me. He finally stopped when I said I would report him for sexual harassment. What is sad to think about is that if he hadn't stopped, me reporting him probably wouldn't have done anything. That is probably what made me afraid to walk past a group of boys or men who like frat types.

[@bb-sophia]

I am so sorry that happened. I also had similar experiences and it breaks my heart hearing about it and it made me emotional hearing cristine talk about it. I was constantly shamed in a past relationship in high school for not being as sexual as he desired but also was called slutty when i did express sexuality. I couldn’t win. It is definitely hard to talk to other males about it too because even those i trust and love dearly, said they hurt for me but they feel bad on the opposite end because they felt the men just were going through puberty at the time and didn’t control their urges correctly. It’s hard to understand just how damaging these ‘jokes’ or comments are to females as a whole.

[@adaabeja2061]

@@bb-sophia I'm sorry you had to experience that too. It really is crazy and horrible how common this is.

[@id3389]

Jesus christ, the story about the Facebook group was incredibly disgusting, I am so sorry you had to go through that. Can confirm, I’ve also experienced so many situations like this as well, but it still doesn’t take away from the anger I felt while you were describing it.

[@amyschoeppich]

I once asked a kindergartener what he wanted to be when he grew up and he responded, “An adult.”

[@a1pacac309]

That's the kind of achievable goal I aspire to have

[@Zeverinsen]

Damn, I'm 25 and even I don't feel like an adult yet 😂

[@hailyjohnson407]

I think a lot of it has to do with exposure. Before kids had access to to the internet so young, we wanted to be teachers or lawyers or doctors, but also princesses and space explorers, or singers and actors. The kids who want to be actors and singers probably spend a lot of time on tv/radio, and the kids who wanna be princesses and space explorers probably watch kid movies a lot, and kids who want to be doctors and lawyers and teachers may spend a lot of time on school or have parents in similar professions. In the 4th grade, I wanted to be a correctional officer. That sounds way out there for a 9 year old, but that's what my mom did, and I thought it was cool. If they did this survey pre-youtube, the same kids would want to be actors or TV personalities, etc. So I don't get why these articles are so down on kids wanting to be KZbinrs. Kids don't understand the vast variety of jobs available, so they just pick something that looks fun. Many of us want to be singers and actors, but sometime between the ages of 6 and 20+, most of us realize that we don't have the talent/skills for that, and then find our passion elsewhere instead of just thinking we want to do this thing that looks fun.

[@Skittl1321]

When I ask my 2 year old what he wants to be when he grows up he says "books". My 4 year old says "a doctor who helps babies get better when they are sick"

[@dejavuchicka]

Interesting! May I ask if your two year old had health complications that inspired that aspiration?

[@blue_ink2000]

@@dejavuchicka bro he's two, he just might not know the word librarian yet 😂

[@dejavuchicka]

@@blue_ink2000 i was referring to her 4 year old that says he wants to be a doctor to help babies get better when theh are sick.

[@blue_ink2000]

@@dejavuchicka OHHHH I see I apologize I assumed the worst, my bad

[@dejavuchicka]

@@blue_ink2000 no worries :)

[@No-ps2zf]

When I was a kid, I wanted to be a writer. Now I'm 27 and I'm a linguist. At one point I realized that what really was intriguing to me was language itself, not necessarily the art that comes from it (although I still love literature). It's funny how sometimes you start with a very good intuition, then you evolve, you educate yourself and you find a way to adapt that intuition not only to reality, but also to the new "You" you've become.

[@maryalicefike4704]

they’re kids, so they’ll want to be their role models. i wanted to be an actor bc miley cyrus was an actor!

[@Baeoah]

When Christine talked about the whole 'Men laughing at stuff' I got emotional. I have been trying to communicate this to ppl around me. A few friends always want to play logan pauls etc videos at parties, they barely like him but want it as background. I can't even watch one video at this point just bc of the sheer emotional weight of what their attitudes represent for me and other women and minorities. It isn't funny to us, we face this harassment everywhere, its just draining.

[@hapsate]

I appreciate Cristine's sharing about being harassed on TH and how Ben got emotional. Touching.

[@linmax300]

China has also blocked KZbin (and most other foreign platforms like Instagram, Snapchat, messaging apps, etc.) They have their own versions with apps like Weibo and WeChat. So it’s no wonder kids aren’t as interested in becoming a KZbind-because it’s nearly inaccessible to find vloggers legally. Students also spend their entire education prepping for the college enterance exam (高考) which will basically determine their future and placement in society. Its hard for them to even find time to watch/enjoy KZbind because they’re constantly studying for longggg hours every single day.

[@lhalison87]

I think they really hit the nail on the head when they say children in those surveys are just answering to careers they have experience/interacted with (Doctor, Teacher, etc...). I remember having a great first-grade teacher and wanting to be a teacher. But when my grandfather had heart bypass surgery I wanted to be a nurse. Looking back, until high school, my careers were largely limited to and influenced by, the experiences I had.

[@owleyes5663]

I thought the conversation about the “Kids choose jobs they see” to be very interesting and relevant. As someone in their mid 20s entering the career force, It has been really weird for me because there is SO many jobs that aren’t seen/talked about. When you are going through secondary school it is like your eyes open up to all these job possibilities that aren’t just “doctor, lawyer, teacher, astronaut”

[@seofra8252]

Another positive influence KZbinr is definitely Threadbanger. Especially now that Corinne is in college and Rob is doing art. They are doing what they really want, and have been able to do that due to their KZbin money.

[@recoil53]

We really overly separate what people do for a living and what they do for life. Job pays the bills. For a lot of people that isn't the life they live outside of work.

[@FluffieXStarshine]

I remember as a kid I wanted to be a movie director... because I saw a movie based on a book, hated it, and said I could do better. Ended up in Accounting then health care. So very different directions

[@blackanne]

I'm sorry to hear about your experience with guys, Cristine. Where I live there is actually a controversy around theatre schools because many cases of bullying by both teachers and senior students were brought to light in recent weeks by some actors and actresses and some accusations and some apologies have been made, along with some interesting discussions. But what got my attention was how you said that youtuber didn't apologize for the way he acts with women or how some apologies are only made to salvage sponsorships and stuff like that. One of popular actors here wrote a fb post with apologies, saying that he was a bully and it was said to him multiple times during school years and after, but he would always find a way not to acknowledge it - and recently someone told him what another student suffered because of him and now he apologizes if "someone felt hurt" (and also says that he did not experience any problems with bullying). It shocked me how many people congratulated him for being a hero, so brave and noble for doing that. It seems that once a role model, always a role model - it's super easy for a celebrity to wiggle their way out of trouble just by having a good PR plan. And, as you said, an influencer can create a general atmosphere of being sorry and being a good person, and viewers will not hold them accountable. People want their heroes to stay heroes. And many people can't take a step back to observe if an influencer's actions are really all that good and worthy of praise. That's why it's easy to get lost in this youtube business.

[@MotosASMR]

I remember as a kid, my mum would watch drama shows like SVU and Grey Anatomy - the characters in those shows never seemed happy and everyone was always stressed It made me not want to be a doctor or police officer because I didn't want to be sad all the time lmao I think kids just want jobs where most people who do them look like they're happy and having fun. I knew a bunch of kids who wanted to work at Nickelodeon or Cartoon Network because the announcers and people in commercials looked so happy.

[@cablekar]

Yeah this seems the most accurate. I'm 24 and our generation is the first in recent times to fight for our happiness and put happiness and things like self care first before capitalism

[@erica1800]

I mean they also see that KZbinrs especially big ones get a lot of free things and they seem to just play for a living, what kid wouldn’t want to do that? But it’s sad they feel to see that it’s a lot of hard work that goes behind it and also how a lot of things are scripted/overplayed for the camera...

[@evelyneca7454]

@@cablekar This is a pretty ignorant comment considering how many movements and protest have happened in the 20th and 21th century. From women's vote to garment workers fighting for rights and safety, the whole of the industrial revolution and the human rights declaration being created, The Declaration of the Rights of the Child and so on. I would advocate that you read up on those movements because being really black and white and flippant about a serious subject really devalues the hard work and the lives lost of those who helped us get to where we are.

[@_adansonii]

@@evelyneca7454 boohoo they're dead

[@Ola..]

Listening to this on my Amazon echo speaker in my home office while working my 9 to 5 as an electrical engineer is peak adulthood. Who have I become?

[@Zeverinsen]

It's weird when you become older, and you suddenly realise that you are doing adult things, because you don't actually feel like an adult 🤔

[@Ola..]

@@Zeverinsen I feel like an imposter pretending to be an adult. Haha. Like one of the three little kids inside the trench coat.

[@vianneylopez881]

When I was 8 I wanted to be a singer/celebrity but I’m 18 now and I’m studying chemical engineering and I’m really passionate about it. I think the answers of most kids being some kind of celebrity is because it’s what they see

[@TheAnxiousArtist]

“Is there a low bar on TikTok?” Yes, yes there is Ben😂 and i love it!

[@tasha2297]

I'm 23, establishing a career in leisure/tourism/events. At the age of 18, I didn't know what I wanted to do and I had started uni in an academic course. I like what I do enough to make a career out of it, but I can't say I'm overly passionate about it. At the same time, I'm not crazily passionate about anything and I've decided that's okay. I can pay my bills, I have savings and I am lucky to still have a job in this current climate. I have hobbies that I enjoy. For some people, having a job that pays the bills and lets them live comfortably is enough because they don't live for their job - they live their life outside of their job through their experiences and hobbies, and I am all for it.

[@jakim4u2]

Oh man, now you really put my career choice into question. I am a teacher and always wanted to be a teacher since I was young. After actually becoming a teacher, I began to question my career choice. I love teaching yes, but if college were free, I would go back and study something else to change my career at some point in the future.

[@bladepanthera]

Well, follow your dreams. At least you are a qualified teacher so you have something to fall back on. Do you have a lot to lose? :)

[@No-ps2zf]

Consinder going to university in Europe, is much more affordable and the education is more than excellent in most cases. Now you can follow everything online, it's really an opportunity

[@JaneDoe-xm9wz]

I've been a teacher for 13 years. But I'm getting out. Right now I'm just looking for something where I can be useful and of service and can pay my bills. I'm burned out. I don't want to be that mean old teacher who doesn't want to be there. You're never too old to go down a different path! Good luck to you and I hope you figure out what makes you happy :)

[@oliviarudd8431]

as an 11 year old i can tell you that i do want to be a actor or a singer as i love musical theatre but i feel like children are made to have a steryotipical life like they need to get married and have children and be straight when they dont

[@squatchen]

You should look into the extra programs in your school! I adored my High school Improv, and choir classes. extra credits and honing the skills you want to learn, on top of having a blast and making friends. you got this!

[@niamhworrell3334]

YESSSS I LOVE UR PROFILE PIC!!!! Hamilton is the BEST

[@SunDarling369]

Ham Fam!!!😁

[@ionbattery]

aaa 🥺 i was 11 when i got into musical theatre - i see youre into hamilton just like i was!! identifying what you love from an early age is great, and it sets you up for life. enjoy your time now!!

[@wingyansze5597]

As a fellow nerd, I like the fact that I can always count on Cristine and Ben for a good philosophical + survey research discussion!

[@lbarbely]

All I can think of now is astronaut youtubers: What I eat in a week IN SPACE, How much I spend in a week IN SPACE, How much KZbin paid me for 1 million views IN SPACE 🤣

[@kateamarlow]

Okay but I'd watch allllll of those hahaha!

[@lbarbely]

@@kateamarlow same 😬

[@khushichadha512]

There are a lot of videos like how i wash my hair in space, a wired series answered by an astronaut etc. its really fun to watch if you are interested in it

[@emilybirchall745]

Ben and Christine are excellent role models. Their dignity, integrity and intelligence are evident each podcast. Any guardian who’s child watches simply can rest easy

[@KristinLouise]

I had to come back to watch this video (usually listen to the pod on Apple Podcasts) to comment that I really appreciate Cristine sharing her undergrad experience and Ben listening to her, supporting her and feeling great sympathy for her and not feeling the urge to shout “nOt ALl mEN” Cristine is brave and Ben is the best non-problematic and unafraid to be seen as kind, gentle and caring

[@areyasoukthala9791]

I love that the first bit of this podcast is just ripping into how terrible of a survey it is to begin with😂😂 it’s fun to see something I’ve learned in school play out in real life

[@pleaseignorethisismyoldaccount]

We actually do cheesy Tuesday not taco Tuesday, usually eat pizza every Tuesday but occasionally other things :)

[@wakawakacherry]

I mean the truth is kids are aware of their parents/ adult struggles. As a kid I always heard teachers complain they weren’t being paid enough and just seeing people go on strike for health benefits so I’m not surprised at all that kids are seeing all this go down and they don’t want to deal with the same stress. Compared to you tubers they don’t really hear them talk about the struggles of being a KZbinr so yeah 🤷🏽‍♀️

[@_june101]

I graduated from college in 2019 (in uni now finishing my degree, I was in a college transfer program) and I often had to get into physical altercations with men at clubs because they would not leave me or my friends alone. Like physically grab them and drag them off of my friends or have to shove them off of me because I could scream in their face and they wouldn’t listen. Just so we’re clear, this whole “frat boy” mentality is still very much alive in recent years and this is a conversation that needs to keep happening even after David Dobrik.

[@michaelshelton462]

I have children that are your age and they have become successful in their own right doing what they love. I think you two are great role models for youngsters both personally and professionally. Thanks for the entertaining videos on all your channels because I can't watch most channels without cringing.

[@Klondike_the_goat]

“Follow your dreams, but not off a cliff.” - My mom 2011

[@millerfan5068]

Your reminder for Tuesday has arrived.

[@Aventurinesgirl]

my parents often say things like “you have to become a businessman” or “you will be an entrepreneur” at first i was like so what? i do what i want but now im pressured like i want to be an animator/artist and own a restaurant but is having a restaurant enough to satisfy my parents

[@hotpotato1898]

don't worry about satisfying your parents- it's your life, and it affects you a whole lot more than it does them.

[@CasparChance]

I feel like what I wanted to be went from realistic to "nonrealistic" as I got older. When I was 5 I wanted to be a vet/work with animals. Around 9ish I wanted to join the Marines. Between 11-13 I continuously flip-flopped between becoming a police officer (after getting a psychology degree bc I thought it would help me better understand people and their mindset in difficult situations) and a lawyer. From 14 until now, I've been wanting to do more internety things like being a Twitch Streamer, Manager for an Esports Team, even threw around the idea of KZbin. Although my "dream job" has become more unrealistic, my expectations have become more realistic in terms of I still plan on getting my Major in Mathematics/Computer Science and throughout school will work at least one part-time job, etc. I honestly believe my "dream job" has become more unrealistic as I began working normal restaurant/retail jobs which then made me resent a lot of "normal jobs" though I think it is important to continue with it until I get a professional job once I get my degree.

[@CasparChance]

Also got to the part of the good role models and it reminded me why I first began wanting to do internety stuff is because I used to watch a lot of Twitch Streamers and I loved seeing them do these 24-hour charity streams where they could raise thousands of dollars and match it. It was always a big thing when they did it too and it just seemed so cool that they contribute so much and inspire others to join in on the cause, etc.

[@daria8950]

i think when you're younger and still in school it's easier to imagine things like streamer or youtuber, but when you're outside of school and real life hits you in the face you realize life is very far from easy and you have way bigger concerns ( and streaming and making videos is more like a hobby/background thing ). Very few are those who can do them AND gain+sustain an audience, you need to have something unique and exceptional about you to make thousands of people to want to watch you. And it's fine to want to make those things a reality, but to purely rely on it it's unrealistic. Trends change, people grow up, there's only so much time you have to be reletable ( as cringe as that sounds ). It's not a stable ground. And truth is a very few people make it on the back of thousands who couldn't, but they won't tell you that

[@Katielovegood44]

I'm 28 and still figuring out what I want as a career... I currently do what I can and focus on home educating my kids.

[@mckenziecolette4438]

One of my first grade students during my student teaching told me “If I were you, I would work at McDonald’s when I grow up.” When we went around the room and asked what everyone wanted to do when they grew up, there were three or four that said a Starbucks barista. At least they have goals, I guess. 😂🤷🏻‍♀️

[@ladosis5596]

Finding meaning in your daily work is very important. I had this tough job making physician house calls from 8pm to 6 am, and I had a driver that was extremely proud of his job, because he saw it as literally "delivering relief to sick people", and even though I was the doctor, he was an excellent driver and got me everywhere on time, and in hindsight, he was doing exactly what he meant to be doing

[@sarahcarlyle6239]

As a kid, I always wanted to be a vet. Wanted too up until my senior year in high school. I was applying to schools and got accepted into all of them. I started doubting and wasn't excited anymore and things weren't working out. I decided to not go to college right away and take a trip. I went to NYC then visited my dad in another state where I eventually moved. I got into tattooing and nail technology and now I'm pursuing both at age 20. They excite me and make me want to go back and learn more. I feel like that's what matter in life. If you're gonna get a job either make it one you want or get one that gives you enough money to do what you want to make life your life happy. Not do what someone else wants you to do. Thankfully I never had that problem and now enjoying my future possibilities.

[@kerollaynemoreira7536]

Ben's nails 🐌 look gorgeous

[@RachelFromEurope]

My sister is 10 years younger than me, she's currently 15 years old. She has to pick an post-secondary vocational education next year. When I asked her what she wanted to be she said a KZbinr. I had a hard time convincing her that this is not a career for everyone and that there are more fun jobs. Apparently, after watching your video, she's not the only one.

[@fumetsushinju]

I really hope your younger sister watches tiffanyferg's video "Why do Popular KZbinrs Stop Uploading." Tiffany explains that it's great to be self-employed, be your own boss, but it also means ALL the pressure to make money/be popular is on you. KZbin financial success is entirely dependent on whether internet strangers like you, and that's a really difficult position to be in, mentally and emotionally.

[@RachelFromEurope]

@@fumetsushinju I'll look it up and send it to her. Thanks! ways good to get some more information

[@Sika6061]

Old fogey here, and I just want to say THANK YOU to Cristine and Ben for explaining the importance of methodologies when it comes to statistics. So many people don't understand how to read statistical studies, and you guys always do such a great job explaining this and also explaining why you can't trust every survey you come across. This is such important information on making the populace scientifically literate, and shout out to you guys on explaining this during almost every podcast. Hopefully it sinks in to people who watch.

[@allwingspoo]

(Speaking as a teacher) I think part of kids wanting to be teachers is definitely that they see teachers all time, especially in a position of power and I know kids often feel powerless so they want that job. For me, my dad was a teacher so I saw the reality of the job and how hard it was and how much work it was, and I didn't want to do it at all. The way I ended up a teacher was realizing that teaching was what I was good at and made me the best version of myself, which is what I encourage my students to think about.

[@saraoz8071]

When I was a kid, I wanted to do something that made me feel happy every day. At first I wanted to be a teacher like my mom, then a vet, a doctor and now I’m a happy dentistry student that loves what I do everyday. I get to have fun with my patients and I joined a couple of charities that can use my capabilities to help poor communities. I believe that if your work makes you happy then you are in the right place!! If you are a kid reading this, go and follow your dreams! Find your own path and follow it! If you are meant to be there then you will always feel happy and accomplished while doing it! Go get em!!!!!

[@blackanne]

In Poland it was actually a big thing that two high school profiles (majors) opened up: one in disco polo (because the government in Poland promotes this kind of easy entertainment so the disco music fans feel encouraged to become music stars), and one in vlogging (which is actually better than it sounds as it involves journalism, video editing and overall just stuff that's useful in present days). People laughed about it but I can see how it can be a good thing for teens because there is an element of their hobby in school.

[@superkittyzfun]

I love both of your insights!!! I look forward to your discussions every week!! You guys are the best

[@pr.yanshi]

I will be honest, I wanted to be a youtuber since I was a teenager and Cristine was a major inspiration. But now I'm 19, still a teenager, still aspiring to be a youtuber someday, but I'm currently studying and trying to get a secure job first so that I can take up youtube without any pressure whatsoever and just enjoy it for what it is. This change of mindset happened only because I watched so many of her videos about it, among others and got to witness the true side of being a youtuber. Even if you do get famous it comes with a lot of pressure And most of the time you may not get the kind of fame you're dreaming of, especially not right at the beginning. And for this, I'm really grateful to Ben and Cristine

[@lisaakinlabi]

Gotta love a podcast that actually does their research! 🥰 My grandson is 5 and he wants to be a cop and my grand daughter is 4 and wants to be a makeup artist.

[@patriciaf2766]

I'm actively trying to change my son's career goals. He wants to be an evil scientist that makes robots to take over the world... he's 7. I've got a few years to curb his desire for world domination 😂

[@katiedaniels9803]

THIS IS LOWKEY SO FUNNY I LOVE THIS.

[@variationeighteen]

one of my favorite podcasts by you guys so far!!! the research data nerdery!!! the vulnerability!!! the commentary on events!!! so good!!!

[@moonbeam0124]

I really enjoyed this discourse and love this podcast. It really is like listening to colleagues having a conversation (I listen when I’m working). Today’s topic really had a lot of good discussion! Hope you guys have a good week!

[@pleaseignorethisismyoldaccount]

Just what I needed today, happy the podcast is back!

[@eoz27]

We need an educational podcast about stats, sampling procedures, etc.!!!

[@gnomie06]

I love listening to both of you. You are the level headed role models that we need. I love the topics you choose and the way you discuss them. Even when you disagree on things, you do it in a way that is healthy and understanding. Thank you guys for all you do!

[@cafardesque8632]

I appreciated this episode a lot, and I appreciate your guys' input on all of the topics you discussed - it feels so good to hear voices like yours on the internet. Much love !

[@estudamarilia4631]

When the subject of College/University comes up I am so glady to be born in Brazil. We have great universities for free. I couldn't imagine the pain that must be to want to be a doctor but don't own money to follow your dream. There is still the topic that privilege kids have easier access, because their private school background. BUT, in all public Colleges/Universities, there is a 50% spots specially kept for public school kids. The elite of course hate this, because the daughter of their housekepper goes to college with their son, which is a such a good feeling to see people angry because higher education puts people of different social classes in a plain field. I love it

[@recoil53]

In the US the conservatives have been raising the costs of going to state universities.

[@juliachristine2801]

@@recoil53 they would actually like to do away with public school altogether and privatize everything at all age levels - it's awful. My state (red state) just passed legislation that funnels more public money away from public schools and into private schools that don't have to meet any standards or follow any anti-discrimination laws or anything - I don't understand how that's even legal 😞

[@recoil53]

@@juliachristine2801 That's what happens when you flood with court with ideolouges.

[@Fleurig]

Have not left the house today and not spoken to anyone. Watched two hours of Bentendo. Bring on an hour of simplypodlogical 😂.

[@rafianatuni7694]

Yaayyy!! I love these podcasts!! Been binge watching these longggg videos!! New to the Simply Family!! And LOVING IT!! 💖💖💖

[@ohhh_money]

I found Cristine and Ben and enjoyed their goofy nail videos and now I've stayed for their unfiltered real life advice. I'm a 22 year old that just finished college with degree in Environmental Science. My parents knew I leaned toward artistic hobbies and interests but advised me to go to school for a practical degree. Now that I'm finished, I am no longer sure what career I would like to pursue, but I honestly do not regret getting something substantial like that Bachelor's degree. It is so important for younger people to consider lots of options for future careers and it is fantastic that you two are talking about it.

[@Ari.K99]

22 year old here. I have never had a job, I am honestly terrified of how stressful a job can be. Even things I love doing I don't want to do as work. I just want to have (and take care of) my own house and garden. As well as having 5 cats

[@elliebelliewatermellieyous8472]

The other day I was watching the news and this woman was like ‘I just got up one day and decided to run a marathon’ loll not explaining the hard work she probably put in behind it loll I feel like this reminded me of today’s topic. You really need to put in work for everything. Nothing is that easy 😩🙌🏻🤍

[@luciapecora3714]

Missed you so much last week! I could listen to you daily. You are like a breath of fresh air in this crazy wordl, a little bit of normality i so much need. Thanks. Greetings from Italy

[@camillecastro5145]

love how eloquent u guys areeee u put my thoughts into the exact right words

[@lizandrews6661]

To the point of childhood exposure to certain jobs and job categories, many children and teenagers have little understanding of the breadth of job opportunities available. For instance, I had no idea about business intelligence analysis or technical sales engineering until I was in my late 20's/early 30's - both jobs for which I am currently applying. Additionally, some careers which will be available to young students in the future do not even exist or are in the early stages of development now, especially in STEM areas.

[@eeliisaa0]

I knew they were going to talk about David Dobrik as soon as I saw that Teddy Fresh sweater😂 Great homage

[@katmusswoodwind]

this is a great topic - during my careers consultation, I said to teachers about wanting to be a musician (I was brought up as one from very young, and I couldn't see myself being something else!), I was met with either a confused pause or with outright hostility to the idea. On a related note, I said to another career adviser that I wanted to take a gap year at the end of school, and she literally said 'No, that would be the worst mistake you could make'. I now know that schools were often measured by how many graduates of their school would go onto study at university the same year they left school...

[@laurenmunday9092]

So I’m in a technical field, analytical chemistry, and this was my kind of conversation. Especially lately, it’s been incredibly frustrating how data gets blown out of proportion. Thank you for talking about this in an approachable way for the wider audience who doesn’t have the statistics knowledge that comes with a technical education.

[@Lixtab]

I think the fame factor is a big one. KZbinrs just happen to be the celebrities that kids most want to be right now. In the past it may have been astronauts or the president or an actor.