The Media and YouTubers Behaving Badly - SimplyPodLogical #62

On this episode of SimplyPodLogical, Cristine and Ben talk about how the mainstream media covers KZbinrs, whether journalists understand social media, articles about Mr. Beast and James Charles, and employment law.
0:00 - Hey what’s up holo everyone
1:30 - New generation of journalists on social media
7:03 - Articles holding influencers accountable vs generating clicks
7:57 - Mr. Beast in the New York Times
12:47 - Unfair or valid criticism?
20:27 - Are creators responsible for the behaviour of their fans?
26:20 - James Charles in Insider + being sued for wrongful termination
29:01 - Shoutout to Emily D. Baker / emilydbaker
29:59 - The importance of (primary) journalism
31:48 - Why are these articles behind a paywall?
32:48 - James Charles’ response
36:48 - Do KZbinrs not understand the responsibilities of being an employer?
38:41 - Why is anyone still supporting James Charles?
43:21 - Cristine’s experiences giving interviews
Articles referenced:
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[@TheEmilyDBaker]

Thank you both for the kind words! Love seeing other creators break down the nonsense!!! Always happy to chat legal commentary!!!

[@richardisfamous]

Emily is getting all the KZbinr love and attention across the platform these days. H3 and now Simply. So deserved!!!

[@EmTheBig]

You should go on the podcast and read/comment on r/legaladvice

[@misstatty3455]

I was about to comment you should watch Emily's content.... Then they said it. Yassssssss

[@marbleousmel]

So when is the collab? 👀👀👀

[@LiveyOmarandmiaherrera]

Lol I was just about to go check out this channel!

[@lia_art5021]

I feel like this episode is this short because they had to edit out all the tea Ben spilled

[@erica1800]

i feel the same way... especially considering james charles is involved and i can feel ben had quite the opinion about his controversy...

[@NoOne-is2yr]

Ben should start a secret tea channel

[@Mia-fv3zz]

so true Ben do be loving to spill Cristine’s tea😂🙌🏻

[@mollyclarke2351]

I love this lol

[@blaah9999]

Or maybe ben spilled the tea that he IS teaspill and they had to edit that out. 🤣🤣

[@zakcourt]

The Ben and Matt show Episode one: Sitting down with Mr. Beast's accountant.

[@mattmazowita1757]

I’ll pitch to Ben

[@stardroplet9499]

Yas! 😆

[@herafatima1312]

I would file petetion if that helped for real 😂😂

[@blubberface2337]

@@mattmazowita1757 oh my goodness holo there!

[@neeturambharack5328]

Petition for an outtakes video of all the tea Ben spilled that didn't make the cut

[@mytasteinmusicisyourface3020]

I doubt it since there's probably a reason why it was cut lol

[@neeturambharack5328]

Lol yea I know haha just a funny thought I had

[@mytasteinmusicisyourface3020]

@@neeturambharack5328 you're right tho, it would be hilarious

[@mytasteinmusicisyourface3020]

@@justinsunny :)

[@valeriavagapova]

Mr. Beast is 22?! Everything suddenly makes so much sense... I've always thought he was around 30

[@manggo5807]

Same i thought he was 30 plus or smth

[@carveylover]

He made it big when he was only 19.

[@izzatihassan1475]

Mr beast is what?? He looks old. Like late twenties early thirties old.

[@CheshieD]

That honestly explains a lot....

[@leilam3154]

Wait WHAT THE HELL?? HE'S MY AGE?? I thought he was in his late 20s, what the heck

[@kaushika7473]

Honestly Ben and Cristine are my internet parents. I made my college decision based on their guidance and advice. Thank you guys. And I don’t think I’m even in the demographic 😂 I’m literally an 18 old guy from India.

[@Stettafire]

I'm too old to be part of the demographic, so welcome

[@SaipreranaU]

I'm 18, took an important life decision coz of them and I feel the same

[@shruthinarayan1117]

23 and still present! These guys are truly timeless and beyond age barriers! Also a fellow Indian

[@wannabeaesthetic9988]

Yayyy glad so many of us from India follow cristine🤣🤣

[@archanadanappa6868]

You have me for company lol, another almost 23 year old from India

[@rachelbacon7391]

“I think about Mr Beast’s taxes all the time.” Beyn at his Beyn-ist.

[@odeia18]

LOL

[@bianxahhh]

same tho

[@wardanisarahmed5500]

@@odeia18 oooooooooo

[@LemonCrush72]

Ben saying the words "shave his ass" was everything I needed this morning, thank you SimplyPodlogical

[@sophielawrence2393]

As a tax accountant, I too think about Mr. Beast's tax return almost every day... (and most youtubers' in general)

[@melissa9734]

Love how that Joffrey star ref went right over cristines head lmaoo

[@purrsndplants5444]

Jeremiah Starfish

[@prachiarora6245]

Even I don't know the reference.....can you pls explain?

[@sdramw]

@@prachiarora6245 game of thrones, Joffery was one of the most hated characters and he’s straight up an annoying piece of shit - show and books. Also, bat shit crazy and somewhat evil

[@s43k0i]

@@sdramw "somewhat"?😂

[@lizalove91]

JOFFREY 😂💀

[@celloafterdark4173]

I really appreciate Cristine speaking so candidly about James Charles! I can’t believe he still has such a huge following after all that he’s done.

[@braingoop]

He has a young audience and I don't think they understand what went on, it's really sad to see

[@stellamantikou4978]

I guess he is supported by 12-14year olds who struggle in school and have the dream of fast easy money...

[@CheshieD]

@@braingoop His audience ranges from like 13 all the way to mid twenties. More than enough of them can understand some of the major issues... the issue is they’re young and don’t want to believe that their role model might actually be a shitty person. Which I just don’t understand because even when I was a young teen I wasn’t like that ever.

[@leilam3154]

You'd be surprised. I am on stan twitter and you have no idea how difficult it is to make a fan see their idol's wrongdoing even when the idol has admitted to the wrongdoing.

[@leilam3154]

You'd be surprised. I am on stan twitter and you have no idea how difficult it is to make a fan see their idol's wrongdoing even when the idol has admitted to the wrongdoing.

[@belencarreno4799]

Me: how the fuck I understand this without subtitles? Me also: Watching simplynailogical 4 years ago without barely knowledge of english, finally I understand a complete video 🎉🎉🎉

[@TheRacoonChannel]

Congrats 🎉🙌

[@fonsineknshr]

Nice!

[@belencarreno4799]

@@xXJokerAtWorkXx I also have lessons but when i start learning i also watch the videos without subtitles and i never understand, 2 years later i start to understand

[@excess_alex.mp4]

Congratulations!

[@anais7362]

Congrats :D

[@CasShadows]

I love it that they no longer cut to Cristine rolling her eyes when Ben calls us “super simps”. That either means she’s stopped or they just don’t include it anymore lol

[@belindarocky961]

Lol. Acceptance 🙌🙌

[@seofra8252]

She likely gave up when tons of people commented that we actually like it.

[@JennSarracenia]

Haha I liked when she rolled her eyes. Was funny 😂

[@hannahdennington9697]

SIMPLYPOD SUGGESTION: As a cat mom myself, I would love a part two of the SimplyCatLogical pod. Interesting/funny/scary cat stories, things you've adapted or "cat proofed" in your house, greatest hits of your useful/helpful cat products, etc. The first CatPod gave more of the "who they were" vibe, so part two could be more of a "where are they now" type of vibe lol. Love the pod and the cats!

[@vanessahernandez5596]

I can’t be around cat cuz my whole family is allergic so I would love this as an episode so I could live vicariously through them 😂

[@boop6169]

Look up Evan and Katelyn They’re another pure YT couple They have a full twitch stream JUST for their cat Joob. She also blesses the chat often and they build things for her a lot

[@jovial.milieu]

They covered that in this one: kzbin.info/www/bejne/aX3Yd4V-osl6mNE

[@ILuvAyeAye]

@@boop6169 I will check them out! I would suggest Jun & Rachel for a similar reason. They live in Japan, and take care of their (now 4) cats, and it's just a very peaceful and beautiful channel.

[@boop6169]

@@ILuvAyeAye oh I watch them

[@peacechickification]

Yo wtf why am I SO excited to be called a super simp? I definitely audibly whooped haha

[@adriannakeller8057]

I was wondering the same of myself 😅🤭

[@Michelle-hw4wj]

plsssss i get so disappointed when he doesn't say it

[@no-st4ft]

It makes me cringe a bit, but like, good cringe. Y’know, like dad joke kinda cringe.

[@funchik93]

Hahaha same! I think it's because it annoys Christine 😂

[@cupcakewithouttheicing]

Okay, so I'm only four minutes in BUT my bigger issue is honestly with the attention paid to the super "big" KZbinrs as the face of KZbin. Because to me, they're not what KZbin is at all. I do find that that side of KZbin can be incredibly problematic (fame is corrupting) and smaller communities on this platform are so much more positive

[@vivianl7875]

Yes I agree

[@daria8950]

The thing is these super ''big'' youtubers will give them their money. The New York Times will never write about a small youtuber with 40k subs who does only nice things, this will do absolutely nothing for the newspaper ( bc no one will read it bc no one cares/if you still didn't get it ), they need money and will get their money when they write about the biggest on the platform. Have you never seen a newspaper before?

[@suicidedegree9617]

@@daria8950 WHAT newspapers???? it's a same house.

[@daria8950]

@@suicidedegree9617 what do you think New York Times is 🤨🙄

[@anguista]

27 minutes in. I pay 0 attention to every KZbinr they've mentioned. I'm just old and don't care. I've been around a very long time. The things/people that get popular aren't necessarily interesting or good.

[@lania2246]

As a current 20 year old, I also wouldn't feel comfortable suddenly employing a bunch of people. Aside from paying for school and stuff I wouldn't know how to properly manage millions of dollars either.

[@annaz2011]

it’s just horrible that james charles was able to, time after time, “erase” the things he had done without any repercussions. he’s somehow a very rare case, doing almost everything bad that an influencer can and had possibly done, while still maintaining such a large platform. another example of this can be seen in shane dawson. it’s kind of good now that most people, besides their devoted audiences, are able to recognize this bad behavior and disassociate from the creators

[@fishflop1741]

mother *walks in* oh you are watching the nail polish girl who built an empire, but still wears hoodies me: that about sums it up

[@waywardmind]

I mean, as a reply to your mom, most people who've created 21st century corporate empires all wear hoodies (i.e., all Silicon Valley startup founders). :)

[@honey_revenge]

What, who doesn’t wear hoodies

[@jillianwilber237]

My husband calls it the nail polish with a podcast

[@pinkyhc4130]

Cristine said something that I've been saying, no one would hire a 22 year old to manage a large lucrative business and brand. Of course it's gonna go south.

[@Stettafire]

Ye, I'm older but if I found myself in that position, I'd hire a manager to deal with all that stuff for me.

[@user-gc9ue8ls4p]

A lot of companies actually do, do this. They know young people want to gain skills and experience, so they can exploit this young labor. It happens all the time.

[@JennRighter]

That Maclean's article on Cristine was so good. But I just couldn't help but to love and laugh at this line: "Like many online celebrities, Rotenberg shot to fame after a viral moment. In 2016, she filmed herself over several hours painting more than 100 coats of varnish on her nails, which eventually formed a deformed mountain of polish on her fingers." It really is great writing, loved it.

[@emaanghias6339]

Take a shot every time Ben or Cristine say "Sorry to interrupt" -- Love the respectful atmosphere

[@vidyareddy6402]

Ben pronouncing Jeffrey as Joffrey.. haha the parallels

[@Katielovegood44]

Ha! Has Jeffrey also got a younger brother we can trade him for ??

[@dcmmom8925]

He who must not be named

[@danieljones23]

Ben: There’s all sorts of interesting tax questions... KZbin: *immediately shows me an ad for Mr. Beast*

[@cheekymunki6]

Love that Emily D Baker got a shout out! Her channel deserves way more subs!

[@soupsinha]

Totally agree! I wonder what Cristine and Ben thought of the WOACB/Tati lawsuit :o

[@kyla8245]

Menchie was really the star of this podcast. She’s plotting a take over 😤

[@adricsoti3719]

isnt she already the supreme leader of their household🤚

[@meganold443]

I honestly come to the podcast for Menchie😂

[@kayenjee]

She's just there to protest the hostile work environment 😅

[@gemmaweber4115]

@@kayenjee not enough petting time, right? ;) Also nowhere nearly enough treats

[@musharratkhatoon2531]

Why can i already sense an ethically intelligent conversation coming my wayyyy...

[@Nahnor]

IDK why but Ben calling us 'super simps' makes me ridiculously happy. I had to replay that part such because it made me smile 😄

[@wallewallewalle]

Someone should edit a video of all the times he’s called us that lol ❤️

[@lunascardigan9022]

I love how Ben's wearing a t-shirt and Cristine is wearing a sweatshirt like a professional sock lmao

[@user-uo2tt1jp5v]

Love ur profile picture 💕

[@lunascardigan9022]

@@user-uo2tt1jp5v thanks 💕✨

[@witchyfishfry]

a tea-shirt 👀

[@lunascardigan9022]

@@witchyfishfry 😂

[@rAUrI95]

Menchie said ✨Star✨ in this episode.

[@RoKer13]

I just think it’s funny how people got upset about people making money through the internet when you already have traditional celebrities and athletes making as much or way more lol Like I loved that “normal” people could just get lucky and have a job through the internet.

[@Stettafire]

It's funny to me because I remember people making the same comments about footballers! Nothing new under the sun

[@lunascardigan9022]

Cristine and Ben making my week #62

[@lunascardigan9022]

Cristine actually liked I'm freaking out-

[@herafatima1312]

The amount of sense and intelligence these two have is more than those KZbinrs combined..

[@simplytierresistable]

I loved this Podcast. I’m a freelance writer and worked as a reporter for a few years. I’ve definitely seen both sides of how these stories are created. So I appreciate the benefit of the doubt. MOST reporters really care about telling the truth. Unfortunately some of the clickbait sites and gossip rags make it way harder for people to separate legitimate media reporting and trash. (Not that I have an opinion on those types of sites… lol)

[@Stettafire]

Nothing but respect for real journalism, I think we can agree that gossip rags ain't it. I remember when I was young, I was shopping with my sister and she bought one of those tabloids and the front page article was "Britney Shears" from the Daily News. Even though I was a teen, even I could see how it was utterly vile. Me and other people (not my sister) too got sick of celebrity coverage, so the lot of us barely touched newspapers until much later. Honestly, those kinds of things discredit your entire profession.

[@camchaunguyen]

Cristine and Beyyn went from "not gonna name names here but..." to "James Charles, David Dobrik, Mr Beast..."

[@ellie-blue]

I actually wasn't aware Mr Beast was couple of years younger than me

[@allisonlenoir1509]

But same

[@rachelhalo6063]

I would really love to see Emily as a guest. I saw her call into the H3 podcast and loved her.

[@ss_apobangpo]

"facts, not fuckery." -cristine 2021 LOVE IT

[@lauraladyll]

Joffrey Star 💀 Imagine the game of thrones character grown up in modern day

[@crunchyoats1862]

A lot of people just don't understand media and the obligation media traditionally has had to report on both the negative and positive sides of an issue in a balanced way. Nowadays there's so much commentary ABOUT news, and commentary doesn't have to be balanced or fair because it's considered entertainment.

[@vivianl7875]

Yeah

[@msmccrabbleapple]

I wonder if the reason they never commented on Shane Dawson is because they (at least somewhat) knew him personally. Seems like an awkward situation to be in

[@keighleestudders9762]

They did? I didn’t know that..

[@msmccrabbleapple]

@@keighleestudders9762 They were seated at the same table at Safyia and Tyler's wedding. Not sure if they had any contact outside of that

[@keighleestudders9762]

msmccrabbleapple oh okay! I didn’t even know Shane went to Safia and Tyler’s wedding (I’ve been meaning to watch the vlogs all year 😅)

[@msmccrabbleapple]

@@keighleestudders9762 Yeah and it probably sucked for Saf and Tyler when they found out someone they considered a friend had done some pretty awful things

[@joannasaadati8810]

@@msmccrabbleapple To be fair, the stuff that Shane did has been online for years and they could have easily looked it up.

[@loretaarroyo]

As a journalism major, I've been waiting for this!!

[@amyy801]

side note- your profile picture is beautiful btw!

[@loretaarroyo]

@@amyy801 omygosh thank you!! ❤️🥺

[@amyy801]

@@loretaarroyo you're welcome ❤❤

[@AmeliaLT]

Emily D. Baker told on her show that she loves you and would love to have a podcast with you!

[@line8857]

and then we have us swifties, a lot of people in my fandom go too far when they try to "protect" Taylor Swift. But they're mostly just causing harm. It is one thing to stand up for someone when they are getting attacked but to attack others just to say that your favorite is the best? That is so screwed up. /A swiftie who is already tired of her fandom

[@Stettafire]

Agree totally. I saw a video once where a guy said "I'm not really into her music" and the comments was full of swifties sending him death threats and calling him sexist. I think you can like what you like, but "white knighting" (am I the only person who calls it that anymore?) is super toxic. I'm glad you're mature then the rest of your fanbase

[@noeyyang38]

@@Stettafire Totally agree! I can appreciate her talent and hardships in her industry but I’m just not a fan of her, I feel like fans can get too absorbed into a deeper meaning on why you may not be a fan of their idols work, and it can simply be just taste. I think people who defend their idol blindly is because they see themselves in them, so it’s almost like an insult to themselves.

[@line8857]

@@Stettafire yeah like I get trying to defend what and who you love but people take it too far. Obviously I see a lot of hate thrown at Taylor on twitter all the time but acting on it and starting useless fights is such a waste of time and really just paints a bad picture of the fanbase as well. Like the Swiftie fanbase is known for being very toxic and over all mean which is insane when you think about the person people swear to love. It's Taylor Swift, the last thing she wants is for people to get hurt and for her fanbase to attack people. And people seem to think that she can't make mistakes and that she is perfect. With that being said I personally believe that even though it isn't her responsibility nor her fault that the fans are acting this way she could say something about it. She doesn't have to but it might help directing her fanbase towards a more positive and kind attitide. And let's not even talk about how fans are attacking eachother in this fandom?

[@dcmmom8925]

Kpop in a paragraph

[@line8857]

@@dcmmom8925 The biggest fandoms are often the most hateful ones. Like arianators, swifties, army’s and so on.

[@TrueImmortality]

I had been a nurse all of 6 months before my manager wanted to train me as charge nurse. I knew enough then at 22 that I was not ready for that responsibility. There's a reason the most junior person in the workplace should not move up too quickly, no matter how talented and intelligent they are. Your emotional intelligence does not always catch up with your smarts. There's more to being a leader than being the best.

[@kbwaterbug29]

Morphe did announce that they are "winding down" production of the James Charles palate and severing ties with him, also KZbin said they were temporarily demonizing him as well so he is facing some real consequences this time. Btw it just felt right watching this while painting my nails with holo taco!

[@WYIN98]

The thing is, he can come back and his fans will act like nothing happened, which is infuriating because at the end he would've learned nothing

[@beatm6948]

I have 2 nails painted with one coat black 😁. Though, I did use 2 coats, but I can attest that 1 coat is only truly necessary.

[@elden2915]

Tbh these arent even "real consequences". He will still have his fans and riches and he will, most likely, get off scot free compared to what should be happening (i.e. him getting investigated further and put in jail)

[@abbypayne4496]

To the point they’re making about “they’re young and they don’t know how to manage people” that’s the kind of thing I wished I’d learned in High School (along with taxes and how to buy a house/ car and stuff like that). Also overworking and underpaying was something I experienced a lot when I worked for a symphony presenter organization. I was making $15/hour with a bachelors degree, doing all the marketing, all the box office, all the reception and office management. I worked 50-60 hours a week and my director wouldn’t let me use PTO almost ever. I went in sick to that job more times than I care to admit. Any time an employer can prey on employees passion for a subject, in my experience they will. IMO, that’s more of a symptom of American capitalism than age or inexperience. In every job I’ve had there has been a feeling of disregard for employee well-being.

[@ratalie28]

yesss! i’m eating tacos but it’s only 9 am!!!!

[@niamhworrell3334]

This is goals

[@ClaudiaDavZam]

Tacos make for great breakfast. I'm Mexican and I can confirm 😉

[@KateCarew]

Tacos are valid breakfast food! You can put whatever you want in them 🙏🏻

[@justtryingtobeadecenthuman6804]

I appreciate Ben not saying “the R word”. I grew up with my mom working with special needs children and I volunteered every summer. I hate when people use that word to call someone stupid.

[@BeShatisfied]

I was kind of waiting for them to talk a little about Dr. Mike, just wanted to hear their thoughts and take on the previous situation

[@caitlinboycher8596]

Elaborate?

[@collyflower6623]

@@caitlinboycher8596 Dr. Mike talks about medical things and advocated a lot for COVID precautions at the beginning of the pandemic. But then it came out that he flew down to Miami for his birthday and partied with friends on a yacht without any precautions. He "apologized" on his smaller second channel to hide it so barely anyone noticed.

[@BeShatisfied]

@@collyflower6623 Yes thank you :)

[@andreil1313]

@@collyflower6623 without any precautions? He didn’t say sorry because he was indeed following the rules. Was it necessary to meet up with his friends? No it wasn’t, but he still followed the guidelines it seams.. I’m a person that has been holed up in her room from the beginning, I still went to visit my mom, 3 times in the last year and a half, following the law and taking every precaution, and probably from the outside doesn’t seem like it. I also got tested.

[@collyflower6623]

@@andreil1313 I see where you're coming from. From the photos I saw, he was on a yacht with at least ten other people, very close contact and no masks at all. He misrepresented the guidelines as well, saying he followed guidelines for water activities (meaning swimming) that allowed no masks. D'Angelo Wallace's Influencer-19 video has a good summary. Hope that helps :)

[@jasonvoll3150]

I’d have no clue what day it was if I didn’t watch Simply and Beyyn 🌮

[@caitlynway5274]

I thought it was Monday till I saw this pop up XD

[@irisarv8333]

I really love the way you have conversations and how you try to understand both sides! Your topics and the way you cover them are very interesting. By far one of the best podcasts.

[@clairer342]

I feel like Saf and Tyler know how to be good bosses. Their team always seems happy on the live streams, and we all know that Carly is the MVP. 😂 I also know Saf has had work experience in the field, so I am not surprised at all that they have a seemingly positive work environment. And I’m sure if anyone were hired to the Simply team they would have an amazing time. 💖

[@ummm6585]

"i feel like he's staring at me" had me cracking

[@jinxie8]

Never in my life do I want my name to be said followed by “known for dating Jake Paul” or any similar influencer 💀

[@javierasirigonzalez6898]

Me encanta empezar los martes en la mañana escuchandolos mientras trabajo

[@paddycakes.]

As a proud super simp, I adore our intellectual internet parents; the savage and the sock.

[@urarakaochako6230]

I’m getting my second dose of the vaccine today!!

[@vishali3027]

Yaya!! All the best !!

[@urarakaochako6230]

@@vishali3027 thank you!!

[@ivannastorozhuk4835]

I hope that after you get it you won't be sick and if you do you get a speedy recovery!!!🙏

[@father_mae_i]

Congrats!!

[@heliaaxis5823]

Congrats, that great!

[@Imbatmn57]

I hate it when i see rich KZbinrs holding fundraisers for charity, then not donating any of their personal money to that charity.

[@joannasaadati8810]

Isn't that illegal?

[@Imbatmn57]

@@joannasaadati8810 i mean they'll hold a charity and collect other people's money to go towards the charity.

[@wayneessar7489]

Perhaps the large channel person feels their ability to make a big audience aware of a charities needs is how they contribute.

[@Stettafire]

@@joannasaadati8810 Depends on the country, region etc etc

[@klowe7213]

There was already talk on Emily's channel about a collab between the two of you and I AM HERE FOR IT.

[@lindseybotelho]

I looked at the title and went uh-oh Cristine is gonna be worried about Beynnn getting in trouble 😄

[@Brokegirlsaving]

I love how your channel offers up conversational topics that can also be brought up in daily conversations! So informative to hear this piece.

[@jadedjadejay]

James Charles is young and that means his fan base will compromise of mostly younger people, who are gullible because they’re still developing. However, my fear is that because of James’s influence, those young impressionable fans will turn out worse than they could’ve without his influence ☹️

[@Lj-xn8ug]

when Christine and Ben say it was a bad idea for james charles to try and get a head start on the article then you know its truly a bad idea...oof

[@kudiyyy]

Ben and Cristine are H3 podcast simps and I’m here for it 😍

[@isabelle_16]

Yesss! I was looking for a comment like this because I didn’t know if it was just me who heard them reference a few things from the H3 podcast, especially at 48:04 😂❤️ Shout out to David Gouda🕺😂

[@kudiyyy]

@@isabelle_16 So many things. Shout to his family, the topic choices, the lawyer they were talking about, using simps, the interviewer not showing up, crypto.

[@damaresdhannie]

Shoutout to their families!

[@manurisenaratne2533]

That podcast is interesting but I’m also mesmerized by Cristine’s cat ears! Soo pretty! 🤩

[@rosemajors8054]

Ben don’t think that we didn’t catch your King Joffrey reference😂

[@SammyyJaynee]

Possibly one of my fave podcast episodes to date. I love watching all the tea and hearing Ben & Cristine's perspectives is a nice addition to the conversation

[@Neeneebee23]

As always, time flies so fast when I put your podcast on. You guys are very insightful but still respectful. Both of you has a chance to express what you want to say and no one cuts the other in a rude way. You guys should be the ones KZbin should be promoting. P.S: Ryland should watch you two on how to conduct a podcast, I've heard he loves stealing all the glory and cutting his co-host most the time.

[@bertha8674]

The time just flew.... one minute the podcast starts and the second its over.... so entertaining.

[@Nullifer6]

This episode came right in time for my lunch! The best time of the day with the best company!

[@lilly6182]

The next guest should definitely be Emily D Baker! Would love to see her on the podcast!

[@PinkieMilkie]

Yees, new episode!! Discovered this podcast on saturday and I already binge watched all of the episodes 😭

[@Youtubekanal-fp9gz]

One of the best "good" ones on KZbin is clearly Justine Ezarik. She's done KZbin basically for longer than KZbin exist and has no drama. She just is a Woman in Tech and real rolemodel for Woman. Sure, 10 Years Ago, she did some weird Videos but so did our Queen Miss Marbles. I think Ijustine is just very smart and a good example for what is right to do.

[@imsocool51249]

Hoping closed captions will be updated soon!

[@rholou8886]

This was a really insightful and interesting discussion, thank you for having it. The episodes where you discuss the KZbin community are always so interesting (and not just for the tea!)

[@zsofiastrbka2030]

This podcast is so wholesome, im obsessed

[@David_blank00]

Just wanted to comment on what Cristine said at 17:40 about just having a high school job not equating to a job with a supervisor. I worked retail since i was 15 and knew early on i wanted to take on a leadership role and worked up to be a supervisor at a pretty young age. What i think Cristine really meant was that there is a difference between a job held simply because it brought in money against a job you then wanted to make a career out of. I just dont want her to be taken out of context to mean that she doesn’t view retail as a career option, but the general understanding that retail isn’t the traditional pick for what is considered a career option. I have seen a lot of different people in and out of a single location in my 7 years of managerial experience. There are those that come in from an early age that want the extra money and nothing else, no plans for the future with the company, there is no second thought to putting in there two weeks after they’re done with high school to move on to something else. Then on the other side you do have people like me that stayed, that saw the value in the work and genuine did want a career, worked with supervisors, had that responsibility and learned to lead, etc. But the truth is that really uncommon, and more often than not, yes retail (im including food retail here too, different work field yes but with the conversations I’ve had with other managers the employee pool tends to be the same) is a very much a place where you find a lot of younger people with a company life of 1-3 years and they dont do much other than grunt work / general labor. TL;DR: You can learn responsibility and leadership from those “high school” jobs, but 9/10 you’re right, you probably wont.

[@anntecz]

What a great discussion. Thanks for the great podcast guys!

[@somyakar2579]

Cristine, I have never watched an entire podcast in one sitting. But let me start by saying, this topic I don't know why really hit the home run. The comments and the discussion really made me appreciate about your content

[@lindseybotelho]

I actually look forward to Tuesdays because of this podcast!! Frenemies is good too! But in a different way 😄

[@jazleyfaith]

As a former journalism student, I really appreciate this defense of primary journalism. In my first journalism class ever, I was required to interview a cop and politician. It is a TON of work to make cold calls, try to get contacts, record, conduct interviews, & pull out relevant information from on-the-ground work. And now, you're also encouraged to have a social media presence. People often act as if the 'pursuit of the truth' should be enough, but you can't do endless hours of research on an empty stomach. It takes so much time, patience, & persistence that is often overshadowed in this quick, social media world. And as an intern for a now-defunct print magazine, the publication did have to pepper in more marketing/advertising pieces (rolled out weekly), to support their deeper investigative work (months long process).

[@maripaes]

Omg, as a journalist I am so happy of how you guys lifted up good and professional journalism! Thank you very much!!!

[@dudejustletme6644]

Regarding your comment about lawyers being unprofessional in the workplace, my mom is a lawyer and she was fired when she got pregnant with my brother. Everyone knew that it’s illegal to fire someone for being pregnant but they also knew that she would never be able to work in the city again if she sued her former employers so she just had to deal with it

[@animalfort3183]

Your voices and conversations help one gather perspective so much-- not to mention peace. Thanks for being good role models, and nail models.

[@zoemartin1761]

I don’t feel like you can judge a KZbinr, especially the bigger, less personal KZbinrs on their fans. When you have tens of millions of people watching you, even if you explicitly say don’t do XYZ, there will be a percent that won’t listen. 1% of a million is 10,000 people which is definitely enough to cause problems in any community.

[@una_panthera9820]

I definitely feel that large KZbinrs will have that awareness though. If they don’t want their fans to harrass someone, rather than just saying ‘don’t do xyz’, they shouldn’t post the content that would cause that reaction in the first place. As it is it just seems like they’re covering their backs with a disclaimer, fully aware that some fans won’t listen, and posting it anyway in order to profit. Fans jumping on people who criticise their fave youtubers is a different situation though, as that’s not in reaction to something the youtuber has said/done and therefore not something they can control.

[@vishali3027]

Really excited for this podcast!

[@oabdusbkzbx1672]

i have been listening to this podcast for days its relaxing and it fills my free time-its very useful to listen to while working on a project

[@slavka643]

I have to write this down. I love SimplyPodLogical because it is very mature, entertaining and, especially with this episode, I agree with Cristine so much (esp. The james charles topic). I love their opinions and I might not agree with everything but it is presented with a thought and maturity that I really admire. In my opinion, Simply is one of the best channels that I love watching and love to support. Please, keep up the good work and the passion you put into it. I will hope and dream that one day, I will be able to talk to both of you (when I decide to join yt one day).

[@Blue-iv5fv]

i was saving this one for work but now i have a headache so.... listening to Ben and Cristine's soothing voices in a dark room while my brain tries to drip through my nose it is ❤

[@krisbf]

This podcast is the best for my anxiety. My house is so clean now. Thanks guys!!!

[@klowe7213]

Bananas - found Simply because of Safiya, found Tati because of Simply, found Emily because of Tati - now Simply is mentioning Emily.

[@zuzana930]

yes exactly, me too :D :D :D

[@elie6572]

as a journalism major, I think it’s so important and I’m glad that newspapers are hiring writers that know social media and are dedicated in covering media and online culture. I think a big shift in media coverage of social media influencers is because they are trying to target a new audience and they can’t do that while negatively covering people in their generation as dumb rich kids. I’m so excited for my generation of journalists, we grew up as the Internet was changing and growing into what it is today, we can cover media culture with that understanding.

[@felicityzzz1614]

you both make my heart warm

[@McThrifty15]

Best Tuesday reminder there is 😂

[@user-ep7ic9tz6c]

"Facts, not fuckery" me when writing an english essay (most of the time lol)

[@aeaeae7]

Shout out to their families lmao. I know they have talked about H3 before but I love the inside joke.

[@Haruckio]

You have no idea how much I love watching your podcast, how you talk about stuff etc etc, great KZbin channel!!!

[@stardroplet9499]

I just started watching your podcasts and they are great! Ben has really come out of his shell.

[@tygristek]

Genuinely love your podcast, it is always super interesting to see your perspective and staying neutral and being understanding, also informative.