SIMSONN Pro Pedals | DRIVE AND TALK | Early impressions!

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[@SimRacingCorner]

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[@danieltracey9942]

I've received my set today and can confirm that the brake loadcell is now 200kg and that there is two extra sets of elastomers and four springs. I'm impressed with the look and quality for the price but now need to get them mounted for testing.

[@nick-dm3if]

So what happened

[@danieltracey9942]

I'm very happy with them. The only other load cell pedals I've used are tlcm's but I much prefer them.

[@menjoSIM]

@@danieltracey9942 what?? Do you prefer Tlcms over this ones??

[@gatorhighlights4]

Did you end up doing the bushings mod on this new version of the pedals like in the video?

[@marcushillerstrom25]

My Simsonn pro pedal set arrived while I was watching the video 😂 That was just weird 😂

[@athomasw1]

I just picked up a set of these. They do work well in their basic configuration. The calibration software has some bugs, but it works well enough. There is a flaw in the way the additional gas pistons are connected which affects the brakes. It doesn't affect the throttle and clutch so much due to the way we use them. The pistons are connected to the main frame, not the load cells. They take away from the force applied to the load cell which reduces the effective resolution of the load cells. If there are any changes in the force per distance applied to the pistons due to wear, it changes the force applied to the load cell when you actually feel the same force. Force memory by our muscles is the basic premise for load cell operation. This contradicts that premise.

[@OmsrFL]

Got these myself, this Thursday 3/21 I’ll be installing the Heusinkveld upgrade kit. Elastomers and rod end bearings and their controller unit

[@OmsrFL]

Finished this upgrade/update today. The brake rod is about 30mm shorter on the Heusinkveld kit. Easy fix with a m8 rod coupler and another m8 bolt to sacrifice. The brake rod itself is a smaller diameter as well, I had a few steel spacers laying around and was able to sleeve the simsonn retaining plastic.”white one that goes at the very bottom” Well worth it even before the hardware upgrade was completed. The controller and software was a plug and play swap and felt amazing out of the box. All in about 140$ including the upgrade kit.

[@ricardoa1661]

can confirm ordered these pedals today April 17 on amazon and it is advertised as having multiple springs and elastomers reds being 50HA and black ones being 70HA there is also white ones at 30HA . Also pedal bushings have been replaced with bearings so the side to side play has been eliminated , source is one of the videos on page by Simsonn

[@davidguidolin5818]

I love them. Stock bottom spring my combo is red two black elastomers. Going to upgrade the bearings with ghost.

[@chrisanders6018]

I have 2 weeks in on mine now! changed out my elastomer stack I’m getting much more comfortable and control with my brakes. I like these pedals for the price very good pickup…

[@BlueFlagGarage]

super helpful review as i have been looking into these pedals with little luck at thorough reviews on them like this.

[@StickyPlasters]

One thing to bear in mind is that bigger load cells = less precision. Think about it like this. 120KG load cell has 16bit spread across 120KG. 200KG stretches those same bits across 200KG. Whether its noticable though im not sure.

[@catnipherb]

You can move the brake rod higher if you want to make it stiffer without swapping elastomers or skateboard bushings. Thats what I done with my BJ Steel GT pedals. I still swapped some elastomers though.

[@Universal-Dilettant]

Hello and thank you for showing. 👏 Can you please examine the "dampers" a little more closely? The ones that came with my SimJack-pedals were also simple gas springs only and therefore useless (they are not dampeners at all), ... Thanks in advance. The initially slight play in the connections got worse over time (3 months). Despite regular oil, there was severe wear and depressions on the outside of the bearings, where the pedal levers rest. I have therefore now converted the bronze bearings into ball bearings and swapped most of the aluminum sleeves for stainless steel.

[@felixpega]

That's a great update, could you tell me the necessary parts, thank you!!!

[@Universal-Dilettant]

​@@felixpega You will find many videos at YT regarding usefull mods for china pedal sets (they will easily beat Heusinkveld Pros after that). Also Google will help you (simracing forums). Dont forget to use FreeJoy to set them up properly (v1.7.0b3 is compatible with the original SimJack controller).

[@coktoco3355]

Great! I’ve had Simsonn on my radar ever since You released the unboxing video. In fact a week ago I ordered a shifter from them. Supposedly it uses Hall sensors, which would be amazing considering I only paid ~40usd for it. Should get it delivered in a few days.

[@kleanish]

link?

[@oxyredrum]

Please give me feedback, if you can send a pic of the internals as well. So far no reviews on it so I’d like to compare it with the simjack shifter which look identical

[@coktoco3355]

​@@oxyredrum I already posted 2 responses here, but all of them got deleted, I have no clue why. Sure. I'm currently testing it and working on upgrading the shifter knob. Will post some kind of 'overview' of my experience on yt, if I manage to find enough free time. But long story short - it's great, for the money it seems like a better option than the simjack one. It uses basically the same mechanism but with magnetic sensors. Unfortunately it has one majoor design flaw of which I already notified the Simsonn themselves. The upper plexi layer that is there to protect the pcb from getting hit by the metal rod is not protruding enough to the center, resulting in literally not doing anything. It doesn't shield the pcb at all. If not fixed it could kill the pcb after some (not very long) time of use.

[@oxyredrum]

@@coktoco3355 appreciate it man, I had to do a couple of tinkering with my simjack cuz it kept getting a lil loose after some use but replaced some nuts got them tight it’s it’s solid now. My next upgrade will probably be the shh shifter which has multiple good reviews

[@88Nikoli]

Yeah they're great and cheaper than the simjacks too .They come with calibration software, no joycon or Di and they come with a spring and elastomer kit now as well !

[@88Nikoli]

They also have a better metal finish , not just how the plate comes !

[@mfpresident8150]

I've had these for about two weeks now coming from csl elite v1. At first I didn't like the brake spring stack(to much travel). I bought the brake kit from race sim engineering and I don't like it. I think the rod end on the brake pedal is too high which makes the effort needed to move the 70 shore elastomers harder than it should be. I put two red ones back in with with one 70 with the race sim preload spring and couldn't be happier.

[@nick-dm3if]

Yah for 200 bucks then only having to spend another 8 bucks to fix and then maybe a few little washers to fix side to side its an insane deal especially if you dont want to buy heusinkveld pedals.

[@ozymatic3291]

Thank you!

[@Niodium]

I bought these yesterday and the blurb on the site makes a point of saying that they come with a 200kg load cell. I’ll confirm when they arrive later this month

[@snippidippi]

Why do you need 200kg?

[@reecereed8131]

Would these be an upgrade from Fanatec V3's .

[@Niodium]

Have you tried that calibration software? A full review including that in your next video about these I presume. 👍

[@SimRacingCorner]

Yes, I have, as the pedals need to be calibrated before use. I'll show this in the review.

[@felixpega]

I´ve received my two pedals set this week and the load cell is 200k, and four springs, but no extra set of elastomers

[@pyroblaze13]

What shoes are you wearing? They’re cool. I think my older brother had a pair.

[@SimRacingCorner]

It's these kzbin.info/www/bejne/pYjbomWhiM52r5Y

[@frafzn6745]

Since i can only afford to buy one, will be really helpful for the ultimate answer to question “simjack pro or simsonn?”

[@SimRacingCorner]

Right now, the Simsonn pedals pinch the win, between the two.

[@frafzn6745]

@@SimRacingCorner but simsonn has lower load for the brake right? Will that be ok?

[@MPH_Racing]

@@frafzn6745 he said he couldn’t tell a difference and the Simmson is now 200k anyway

[@pascalrofeldt7571]

@@frafzn6745 it has 200kg now as well

[@marshalljayy]

@@frafzn6745 you might already know this because it been a couple weeks but the simsonn now have a 200kg load cell and come with more elastomer and spring options!

[@scottySK]

why not use the heusinkveld elastomer upgrade kit on some of these chinese copy cat pedals? Is the rod diameter too large to fit them?

[@SimRacingCorner]

It's another option that should work well. But I do believe that the holes would need to be widened on those heusinkveld elastomers to fit here.

[@Xi2or]

Thanks for this, as I'm trying to decide whether to buy these or the SimJacks. They seem pretty similar, but come with extra springs and elastomers according to the listing on Aliexpress, did yours? Also it shows these as having ballraced bearings, again did yours? Thanks for any info👍

[@SimRacingCorner]

Mine didn't come with extra springs, but I bought these a few months ago, and it looks like they come with extra bits now. Mine don't have bearings, they are bushings.

[@Xi2or]

@@SimRacingCorner Thanks for the reply, maybe they have been upgraded since you got yours. Can anyone confirm? Cheers

[@ChuckBerries]

@@Xi2or yes, mine came with extra elastomers 3x soft, 3x hard and 4 springs of varying stiffness.

[@SimRacingCorner]

@@Xi2or I've just been in contact with Simsonn, and they told me, the latest pedals have been upgraded with bearings, and new elastomers.

[@Xi2or]

@@SimRacingCorner Great, thanks. Even more of a bargain now then, that's made up my mind. Cheers👍

[@integra097]

I prefer inverted pedals. Do you think these could be inverted?

[@SimRacingCorner]

Absolutely, as long as you can fashion a way to mount them inverted.

[@Niodium]

Has anyone had any issues with USB noise with these? Installed mine today and the noise is so bad it is preventing my mouse buttons from working property. I've a Moza R12.

[@Niodium]

Well, it is all sorted now with help from Simsonn via the messaging service on Aliexpress. Got to give Simsonn credit for being very responsive. Given how badly Fanatec have failed in this regard, and what it might cost them, it is nice for me to confirm that this is not the case with Simsonn.

[@GregoryShtevensh]

Niiiiiiice

[@snippidippi]

How strong are they? Can I play with them o a plate standing on the floor?

[@SimRacingCorner]

They need to be hard mounted, they won't stay in one place otherwise.

[@kielicopter1946]

Can you tell me the elastomer stack that you’re using?

[@mpresto15]

Looks stock elastomer he just replaced the spring with skateboard bushings

[@GregoryShtevensh]

Is it worth it to buy these for someone who has already done the damper mod on the csl pedals?

[@SimRacingCorner]

These are nicer pedals for sure, but they won't give to faster times over the CSL pedals. So they are a side grade in performance, but an upgrade in other respects, such as adjustability and feel under your feet.

[@FB-mu8wu]

Are these pedals going to make too much stress on a playseat trophy?

[@rut.nasty2v96]

Are you still using these? Thoughts after 30 days?

[@SimRacingCorner]

The full review is coming soon