Simucube SC2 Pro DD Wheelbase Review

[@1984kylea]

Thanks Barry, you're the best in the business

[@nf1racing]

You are sim racing's Bob Ross, thank you for all the time you put into these reviews

[@GautamDesaiB]

Good call. Yeah, puts me in a good mood watching this content.

[@bananaZn]

lol true

[@grandeprimo]

Sublime as always. We need a head to head vs Fanatec DD. I am holding my wallet until that. Keep up the good work Barry, big fan here, greetings from Portugal

[@EpicTrauma]

Yes!! That would be awesome. 👍

[@frtbrian1894]

agreed but this does look a great choice

[@ILikeToBeCarried]

Also agreed.

[@dubtube6691]

the quick release system from Fanatec is rubish, unfortunately not even close to podium

[@jorge_781]

Why those DD wheels have to produce 5x more force than any modern racing car is beyond me. Maybe people like to have their wrist broken.

[@Johnny_Thunder]

Barry doesn't just review the wheel, he reviews every nut and bolt as well.:)

[@MostlyBlindMitch]

Oh sure, Le Mans 24 starts in 1 hour and Barry drops a 1 hour video I have to watch. So much for the pre-race coverage!

[@RaufZero]

same thought ;) hide it for another 24h!

[@chrisjohnson261]

Barry likes everything its hard to decide what to buy based off his reviews

[@rvrx2004ify]

The Doc Brown of the sim racing world!! 🏁 🌎 Love your channel Berry, keep making great content.

[@jacobstorm5663]

I just got my batch 4 SC2 Pro with the BT antenna upgrade and I have 100% connection to my Ascher Racing F28 all the time now! Good job Barry and GD to listen to the community!

[@Zuggest-v8g]

What's the BT antenna upgrade all about? I saw a simucube comment talking about how they switched antenna types recently?

[@Augustus222]

Great review! Just received my SC2 Sport. The base now has an actual antenna which you can take off. This will surely improve the connection to wireless wheels.

[@desolate282]

You get a like just for showing both Imperial and Metric weight measurements alone. Respect.

[@Macroony_46]

Thanks barry the software whas my main thing that i want to see because i'm at the point of buying my first DD and i couldn't choose between the Fanatec DD or the Simucube but the choice is made now thanks again great video!

[@slick2000tiscali]

Barry your videos are the only ones I click on Like before even watching them

[@BraboPaul1]

Best reviews come from Barry! I have a Simucube 2 Sport on my way....i cant wait,it will replace my G29........i guess thats a difference i cant even discribe.

[@paulus1412]

How is the Sport version? Stil thinking which version to get. the sport or pro.... Getting the sport will leave the extra money spend for a wheel + only 1 power brick. But it will miss that extra torque. But no idea if you will miss that extra power...

[@baflabies]

Mine is now on its way!! Omg am so exited. I feel like a kid before Christmas.

[@wuzumaki]

Are you happy with the purchase, one year later? I'm thinking about stepping up to DD from a TS-PC, but I haven't decided if I'm going with Simucube or Fanatec yet.

[@wwjnz9263]

15 minutes of mindless KZbin entertainment or, an hour of Barry tearing a Direct drive apart and showing g its internals... I'm about to see how the Simucube 2 works. LOL. Great stuff Barry. Keep it up sir! As much as I would like a Fanatec, Simucube 2 seems more interesting.

[@gonzo3915]

Cheers Barry, much anticipated and appreciated.

[@Johndoyle83]

Just placed an order. Can't wait.

[@zeroskillsJussi]

Why do I want to hear Berry do a Calm bedtimestory :) That voice :)

[@MustangFastback]

Who else looks in the background of the SRG to see what cool stuff is on the wall?

[@oreo7007]

That La Croix board!

[@Daniel-eu9xw]

Barry you should set your brake gamma to one in Asetto Corsa otherwise it doesn't play nicely with load cell brakes. Great video as always,

[@simracinggarage3026]

I will try that.

[@martinturbo9015]

For ACC the same or there is fixed ?

[@Daniel-eu9xw]

​@@martinturbo9015 Its the same, set your brake gamma to 1. Its not really a bug its just a setting that makes your brake inputs non-linear, the idea is it makes potentiometer brakes easier to use but its awful when used with load cells.

[@martinturbo9015]

@@Daniel-eu9xw Thanks for the info mate

[@zainhaider8362]

Time for your fanatec v SimuCUBE direct Drive comparison video

[@26PoundEvo]

Been waiting for this one!

[@Simlife101]

I would love to be nosey and look through all the photos of Barry growing up in regards to sports. You just have to look around his garage to know he has made the most out of life and had as much fun as possible.

[@AdamAllen]

Best reviews in the biz, no contest.

[@locomaaan]

love this guy, his videos are awesome!

[@hybridracingsimulations4153]

Awesome review Barry!

[@kiske187]

Wow Mean Well power supply is from my home town Taiwan. Taiwan products are always with good quality like Asus, Acer, Gigabyte, MSI, Giant bicycle also from Taiwan. great to see this part applies to my favorite sim racing application especially SimuCube 2

[@colhapablap]

just want to point out that the C in oscillation is silent. incredible in-depth review as always.

[@realtrisk]

Another excellent review. Thanks for doing these! Sounds like this one is a sure winner.

[@kyle_stephens]

Such detailed reviews. Super stuff. Thanks, Barry.

[@jacobstorm5663]

Great review as always ✌🏻

[@T25de]

Best review channel

[@MrCatalysis101]

As always, thank you Barry.

[@francsin9477]

Very informative as always, keep it up.

Thanks Barry for this excellent review.

[@larrymcdonald2317]

Great job Barry!

[@tonypbeck]

Great review as always Barry, really looking forward to the tuning video.

[@EliteSwedenPhotography]

Like the way this is going, always nicer with a complete unit to just plug in. Fanatec Podium series just got some serious competition.

[@paolunna]

I love you Barry!!

[@787roofdog]

Great job as always. I did find out when ordering that the premium E stop you featured is an upgrade option on the SC2 Pro. It is included on the Ultimate.

[@markkovalcson7243]

I was just told on a forum that, "Granite Devices are in the process of ordering in some extensions cables to test out and they might move onto manufacturing their own if it come to it." So it looks like there will be a solution available for people like myself who would find the current cable length too limiting.

[@yrtracingteam106]

I’m also ready for a final verdict. Fanatec vs simucube. I mean what to buy. I really dont know. The Netherlands ✌🏼😋🚦🏁

[@ruffrider6653]

I have the Fanatec Podium - my advice would be to go with the Simucube...The problem of course is the Simucubes are sold out for now.

[@JohannDaart]

@@ruffrider6653 What's wrong about Podium?

[@ruffrider6653]

@@JohannDaart - The Podium is a good unit = when it's working. My personal DD1 crapped out in less than 3 weeks. I contacted Fanatec support and they replied "We can fix that problem with a firmware update". (Of which was not true - the unit was phisically broken.) Fanatec support was not going to help me. I went on the GT Planet forum and posted the problem and luckily Dom from Fanatec saw my post and sent me a private message He agreed with me and made an internal contact with their support and got my unit replaced. There are people on KZbin who have had to have their units replaced up to four times... I like the DD1 but they are having a great deal of problems.

[@JohannDaart]

@@ruffrider6653 Woah it sucks. At least Dom helped you.

[@nerdthewise]

@@JohannDaart DD2 owner here selling mine for an SC2 Pro. I hear good things about the SC2, but I am also just eager to be done with Fanatec. They really seem like they only barely know what they are doing. Plus this saves me $200 a wheel for the podium hub, which is significant.

[@DavidMiller-nt5nm]

Thanks great review, have decided to get one. Thx cheers

[@6Whodini]

I'm with Primo Vasconcelos ....Waiting for Fanatec DD review. And as always great review

[@deemybutt]

Great review, can't decide between this and a leo bodnar simsteering 2, ignore cost.

[@Sir__Gambit]

I wonder if Barry has ever taken anything apart and thought shit!.. i cant put this thing back together!

[@frtbrian1894]

Never :)

[@Sir__Gambit]

Haha good man 👍🏻

[@jrd3807]

He's a retired industrial engineer ;)

[@mklein345]

Any idea where I can buy the 4mm T-nuts for the stop button mounting?

[@imigi2850]

Still banging out videos

[@MarceloTezza]

Thanks for another perfect review, pure excellence, better fanatec hurry up because i'm only going to buy their DD podium after your review. Sadly this one is PC exclusive and i want a Playstation compatible device.

[@navikYT]

There's a new entry-level DD drive wheel coming out of China: Simagic. It's just 10NM, but very competitively priced. Hope to see you put it through the usual through SRG review process.

[@simracinggarage3026]

Once I have one, you know it will.

[@kolysion164]

China ? no thanks...

[@dubtube6691]

If I wouldn't own already three Fanatec wheels I would have bought this DD. No I'm waiting for the DD2 from Fanatec. The simcube looks really clean and solid without any fancy stuff.

[@ChrisSmith-ur8ss]

Do what I did, sell anything fanatec that you own and buy some decent kit

[@jamesgalbraith4994]

Great review Barry once again. Is it worth the jump from SC1 to SC2 in your opinion?

[@leelee-up1rc]

i need to know too, please Barry

[@PataWTF]

any chance of you reviewing the pro-sim spec sim steering 2 akm54? whould be really interesting to know if the overall feel of the leo bodnar has changed or improved somehow; or if its only a minor difference to the stock sim steering 2 without pro-sims optimisation. i can imagine the guys from pro-sim have improved the feeling and stability of it even more

[@alexanderasner1689]

I like the racing shoes. :-) Great review as always. Thank you.

[@tennis4live]

On their website i saw they are offering a adapter for fanatec quick release. Have you tried a Fanatec wheel on this base? Because as a student my budget is limited and the wheels from simucube are quite to expensive for me.

[@simracinggarage3026]

The adapter has no electronics in it. It is intended to be used with a Fanatec wheel that has been converted to USB so you can plug into your PC.

[@BryanJ1994]

With the stock price of the Fanatec DD going up...really considering a SC2 now...looking forward to what barry says.

[@ohjonny95]

I think Fanatec DD is without competition atm. It is highly superior to what other manufacturers deliver

[@Leynad778]

@@ohjonny95 Shaun from The Simpit said, the DD2 is basically an OSW-wheel with Fanatec steering wheel compatibility without the promised software that might improve the FFB. He switched back to his better tuned Accuforce for this reason and waiting for the software to do his review he said. Also some people experiencing hardware problems with the Fanatec DDs and enough to give them some time to sort things out.

[@ohjonny95]

@@Leynad778 that is why I was also considering the 2.5 Wheelbase. Because it is a unit wihhout issues. DD1/DD2 is like a new computer software. They have flaws at the beginning. But back to the fanatec DD, I heard multiple guys saying it would be better than anything else they have had, I think it's just about personal preference

[@26PoundEvo]

Don't cheat yourself and save the Fanatec headache.. SC2 all the way.

[@martinturbo9015]

I personally will go for SC2 bcs of all EU made industrial components and proven software. Just the power supply's are 2x100 euro. Fanatec is using Chinese components and is only better in having bigger margins/profits. Im not saying Fanatec is bad choice especially if you are invested in to the ecosystem but SC2 is a better option for me.

[@StacyDubC]

The desktop centre spring forces the wheel to centre when you're not running any games. I find it very useful and is a feature in the SC1 firmware. I usually leave it powered on always, so it stops my kids from spinning the wheel when my PC is off

[@Simlife101]

I use a smart plug for mine with alexa to turn it on

[@tutelarius]

LaCroix electric skateboard with AT wheels - check Long hair - check Cargo shorts - check Wall-mounted tools in home garage - check. You are now APPROVED to purchase a multi-thousand dollar DD driving sim wheelbase :D

[@NadavFedida]

1:07:00 seems like there’s a fair bit of lay between real life wheel movements and in game displayed movement. Hopefully that’s because of the monitors.

[@simracinggarage3026]

PC2 always does that on my setup. Other games I use, like iRacing when I enable the hands feature, don't do that.

[@jeancoquelicot1249]

perfect review as always. Could be very interesting to try with Rfactor2 instead of a game like Pcars. i wonder also if the "Sport" version does the job done like this one, or if the difference is very noticeable

[@PureGamingTV]

The Sport & Pro are different servos. Though, the price difference is only a couple hundred bucks. If you can afford the Sport, go for the Pro.

[@SlowBloke123]

Rf2 is a game like pcars2.

[@PureGamingTV]

@@SlowBloke123 FFB and physics in rF2 is miles better than PCars2.

[@SlowBloke123]

@@PureGamingTV in your opinion. That is not what I replied to though.

[@fetB]

@@PureGamingTV what are the differences other than torque which is merely down to the power supply

[@Ruylopez778]

Thanks, looking forward to further videos about this setup. Does the unit get hot? All the electronics and motor appear to be within one solid body and no visible openings or visible cooling fins.

[@simracinggarage3026]

It got warm after a long session at max torque. But not hot.

[@Ruylopez778]

@@simracinggarage3026 Thanks, good to know! I'm really amazed how compact it is compared to DD wheels we've seen in the past. Great content, as always.

[@OliSGM]

Awesome review Barry - love watching these. Can I ask what motion platform is shown in the driving section of the video?

[@EKG14]

Hello I have a sc2 and when you push up and down on the wheel while mounted mine will rub or make a noise. Like it is loose. I keep re tightening but it won't work.

[@langmeng825]

How big the difference is between sc1 osw with big mige and upgraded encoder? Is it worth to upgrade? Thanks!

[@PlasticComplex]

Sold.

[@stefanhenkel6982]

but this E Stop not Standard, and can you remove the yellow sticker?

[@mtakala82]

Yellow sticker is not stuck on with super strong glue...

[@karindachbauer3080]

Hi, I`m just curious, is there any difference in the feel when comparing the SC2 vs SC1? Considering4mil Resolution on both. Besides theSC2 is much neater, but I see the same adjustments in the configurator.

[@02semiata]

Hey Barry I keep seeing you use the wave Italy pedals. Are they your go to pedals now ? Do you feel they are as good or better then the HE Ultimates ? Thanks !

[@kolokolok]

His favorite was the HPP PRX SE, followed by the HE Ultimate. The main reason why he decided to let go of the Ultimates was because of the very firm force needed to use the pedals. I've seen all 3 reviews of his trying to know how they differ.

[@02semiata]

kolokolok 2016 thanks for that. I totally forgot about the hpp ones ha. Yeah I do read that the HE ones are very stiff. I mean you can see it in spec sheet on their site. Thanks again

[@kolokolok]

@@02semiata You're welcome! :)

[@jwm0]

@@02semiata I run Ultimates right now and while they are stiff, you get used to it after few days and I wouldn't want them any other way. I use the softest setting (3 white rubbers). All the real life pros seem to be using Heusinkveld, so that's a testament itself. Also, they are built like a tank

[@02semiata]

Jakub Majorek yeah I also wonder how stiff a real race car pedal is... and I’m sure that changes from car to car.

[@GiosSimCorner]

Hey Barry love your videos I just recently got into sim racing a few months ago. I currently have a Logitech G923 but i want to jump into direct drive in the upcoming months. I will have a budget of around $1200 maybe a little more what setup would you recommend? Wheel base pedals and wheel. thanks

[@D4N13Lf00]

I don’t think Barry reads the comments especially o. 3 year old videos

[@LackyUno]

Thanks for this detailed Video. Im bought a Fanatec csl Elite ps4 Wheel and im experimenting for to long struggling to find a natural feeling setup, especialy on assetto corsa, so im looking if the racing wheel or the game is the problem. You talk about that you have a vague feeling on assetto corsa, would you discribe what you meaning exactly? My problem is the building of the forces seems to be unnatural. As example: when i setup the force feedback and dampening settings that the a sporty roadcar which i can compare to a personaly driven car feels normal stable and the steering power feels normal on normal driving the steering wheel builds to much force when the car looses his rear end and i have to balance a drift, again i compare it to personal experiences with different cars When im setting the steeing wheel that this oversteering power is manageable i get a to easy steering wheel on normal driving. Did you ever had compareable Problems with assetto corsa and or other Steering wheels? Everybody welcome for help.

[@knightnight0237]

going narrisch assetto is garbage imo. I literally think forza 7 is miles better

[@deskane8757]

Happy New Year Barry, another great vid. I currently have the OSW big miGe from SRB, looks I will be moving this way soon - interested to know how better if any the 'Ultimate' is compared to the Pro? One for another day.

[@noobnoob3489]

I would want the exhaust under me with a bass and speaker on the rear of each L and R side so you have the full advantage. Might i recommend looking at JL AUDIO, they are also top of the line.. a little better than KLIPSH best products

[@xXxXENcoreXxXx]

Can you do a rate system like out of 10 ? It makes way easier and we can compare with other product. Like this Simucube 2 compare to OSW and accuforse v2. Is Simucube 2 better than OSW ?

[@13guns87]

Thanks for that. Simple but very often asked,I'm sure. DD1 or sim pro. At this level is there much of a difference. I'm not invested in fanatec. Have gear but it's getting sold.Just play VR, F1, rally and some fun drifting on Forza.

[@riailyse7707]

Hi Barry, as always great review i was wondering if you have had time to use an ultimate and if your going to do a review.

[@simracinggarage3026]

No Ultimate yet. Would like to test one though.

[@Nathan0A]

no ACC +SC2Pro review / settings?

[@garyxperia7725]

Hi Barry great review i have just bought the simucube pro v2 and it has an annoying electrical noise coming from the shaft area of the motor, did you experience any such noises when reviewing the wheel base, Cheers Gary

[@wariows]

Barry, did you have to pay import duties on the simucube 2 pro? I'm new to the country and don't know how import duties work here.

[@simracinggarage3026]

No.

[@user-wd5ml7jm8v]

Greetings Mr. Berry Roland from the best show sim racing garage! Have a question for you sir! I’ve bought the 52 SS2 years ago from your recommendation and I don’t know how to tell you how satisfied I am. But by know I want to upgrade to 54s which do you recommend SS2 or SC2? Sincerely your recommendation is highly appreciated.

[@simracinggarage3026]

If you already have the SS2 with the 52G Kollmorgen, check with Bodnar on any trade up offers they may have. You may be able to trade up to the 54G. Not sure if they still do it though. Pesonally, I still prefer my 54G SS2 over the SC2 Pro. The SC2 Ultimate may change my mind. Won't know until I can test one.

[@denisva1987]

Thanks Barry for the good review as always. To you or the community, the AccuForce being roughly €500 cheaper, what would be your preferred option out of the two ?

[@angryginger791]

Let's put it this way. The Accuforce is a 2015 Porsche 911 Turbo, and the Simucube 2 is a 2019 911 GT2 RS. The simucube is newer, more powerful, more developed and refined, etc. So it's obviously better but it costs more. It's the one you want if you can spend that kind of money. But if you can't, you will still most certainly have a lot of fun in the 2015 911 Turbo.

[@tonypbeck]

Hi Barry, when will the Simcube 2 setup videos be available, how are they going?

[@simracinggarage3026]

I'm afraid it's slow going at the moment. I have a back log of review items I need to work through first. And being summer, there are a lot of outside activities distracting me. I will make a setup video for the SC2, but it is still a ways out. In the meantime, there are a lot of guys on the Granite Devices Community site sharing what they have for setups. community.granitedevices.com/

[@tonypbeck]

Sim Racing Garage Brilliant, thanks Barry :)

[@KendrickTaylor100]

Great review, Barry. Would it be possible for you to share that picture on your desktop? It’s so hard to find a good triple screen wallpaper.

[@larrymcdonald2317]

is there a way to get that shut off vs the yellow one they send Barry?

[@igorkmn8566]

Thanks, Barry! Is it better than DD2?

[@forgotenguy]

Hi Barry. I would not normally ask someone on KZbin for this but I have no idea what else to do. A friend of mine bought a Thrustmaster tx From someone. He doesn’t have Facebook so I helped him find it. He didn’t notice the power cable Was missing. Is there any way you know to get a replacement. Thrustmaster closed and no vendors have them. Please any help would be much appreciated.

[@Georges01051969]

Hello Barry, it is possible to get an insight of that E-stop thx

[@Quozl]

What pedals are those? I can hear you say the name at 37:54 but can't get the name.

[@simracinggarage3026]

They are the Wave Italy Impetus pedals: kzbin.info/www/bejne/aZzJl3V-pqh1ebc

[@PataWTF]

great review! so it is better than a sc1, but is it better/same as a bodnar ss2?

[@simracinggarage3026]

Personally, I still prefer the motor characteristics of my 54G Kollmorgen. It's no contest when it comes between the True Drive software and the SS2 tuning interface. That said, from the looks of it, the SC2 Ultimate may be the solution that makes me switch from the Bodnar.

[@PataWTF]

@@simracinggarage3026 thanks for answering barry!:) hope so, i will be ordering my sc2 ultimate next week. 👌

[@kolokolok]

@@simracinggarage3026 Barry, this review was fantastic as usual but also underwhelming. I would have liked to see you discuss how the driving experience feels compared to the other DD just like the comparison video you did before. If you're going to review the SC2 Ultimate, kindly make sure you extend your elaboration against Leo's SS2. The hardware is important but its the driving experience the counts the most. Thanks!

[@slotracing.digital]

I think, overall Leo's SS2 is still the benchmark. What you think?

[@BenMyattt]

Wish you would’ve measured end to end on the mount because the way I’m taking it is that it’s the only way to mount it.

[@xXxXENcoreXxXx]

Please help!! Which one to buy Fanatec DD1 / Simucube 2 or accuforse v2 ?

[@xXxXENcoreXxXx]

@Kris Borchardt ok but which one pro or sport and why ? I'm holding myself from buying till i figure out which one is the right choice 😅

[@schmatfpv8964]

Where to get the alu Profile in Black the 40x120 Profile !??

[@1xRacer]

Hey Barry how would you compare this to the fanatec 2.5? I own the fanatec but considering the upgrade just not sure if it's worth it. Any help would really really mean a lot!

[@simracinggarage3026]

Going from a belt drive FFB wheelbase and a Direct Drive FFB wheelbase will be a move up in detail, fidelity, and speed. If you already have some Fanatec wheels, pedals, shifters, and such you may want to consider the Podium wheelbases along with the SC2 options.

[@1xRacer]

@@simracinggarage3026 really means a lot thank you

Barry please use Assetto Corsa Competizione too in your reviews. As it is released :)

[@regibson23]

10:39 they could make the spacer a larger diameter and include larger adapter holes.

[@UnitedFan3001]

Might be a dumb question but do any of the DD setups work on consoles?

[@manulilloYTpoli]

I have the fanatec v3 pedals. Could they connect to the base of simecube 2?

[@simracinggarage3026]

Not that I know. I would rather connect the V3 directly to PC. Avoiding any issues.

[@manulilloYTpoli]

@@simracinggarage3026 simucube 2 sport and v3 pedals how do i connect them to gran turismo sport ps4?

[@simracinggarage3026]

You can try DriveHub to connect your DD wheel to the PS4. I have not tested this, but others say they have and with good results. You should do some research before buying. Just like anything else.

[@bigredracingteam9642]

@@manulilloYTpoli You'll need to either buy (blog.gimx.fr/product/gimx-adapter), or build (gimx.fr/wiki/index.php?title=DIY_USB_adapter) a GIMX adapter and a PC (or a Raspberry Pi.) to run the GIMX software on (gimx.fr/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page). The DriveHub won't work with the Simucube wheel bases as of this time.

[@Jok3ri]

Please test rF2 with it!

[@KevinMinato]

Does that emergency stop come with the sport as well?

[@fitnesschefen]

I have the fanatec V3 pedals. Can i buy simucube and connect my pedals to that? Im on a pc and playing iRacing. Now i have clubsport V 2.5 base and V2 wheel

[@simracinggarage3026]

No, but you can connect the pedals directly to your PC via USB.

[@fitnesschefen]

@@simracinggarage3026 that will work fine? So i can use simucube with V3? I need new Steering wheel right?

[@StefVR]

To mount the E Stop to the rig isnt it much more easy to just get a M4 nut and screw it directly in? Am I missing something?

[@simracinggarage3026]

Yes, I mentioned that in this review.

[@StefVR]

@@simracinggarage3026 Great! Thats how I will do it once my Ulti arrives next week! Hopefully you get one for review to compare with the Pro.