Simulation Hypothesis, Universe is Conscious | Noah - New Mexico | Atheist Experience 23.31

[@RossTheNinja]

Top tip: if asked for evidence of something, don't start your sentence with "if"

[@htcmlcrip]

But what if 'if'is the only evidence you have?

[@RossTheNinja]

@@htcmlcrip then look for better evidence or review your belief

[@UngoogleableMan]

Right? If someone asks me for evidence of something I start with "data collected from..." Like the phosphine recently found in cloud decks of Venus. Evidence for that was collected from both the JCMT and ALMA telescopes using the technique of spectral analysis of interference patterns in the light collected by the telescopes. And the paper in Nature Astronomy has all the collected data, what potential problems the instruments might have, how they addressed such concerns, when the data was collected, what other possible causes the gas may have, how they verified their findings with seperate institutions using seperate technologies and instruments and so on. You need to point to something. Not think about concepts.

[@GrifterE]

Kudos to Jenna for asking what he actually believes. First step: Expose your beliefs to others. They might not be as awesome as you thought.

[@luciferdiablo2509]

👍

[@elmolewis9123]

This caller is so impressionable, that he actually believes the flavor of the month book that he has just read. The Matrix, although entertaining, is reality to this guy. This disconnect with reality can definitely lead him down a horrendous path, depending what the next book or movie he starts to believe in. Hopefully, he reels himself in before that happens.

[@TheRealCatof]

I don't understand why religious sheep come to these comment sections. Do they really believe that they can beat atheism by just spewing proofless claims and threats?

[@TheRealCatof]

@Pisstake it's sad.

[@MeattyOkra]

@@TheRealCatof I hope you were not referring to my comment Bob.

[@MeattyOkra]

Disregard my previous comment. I think I found who you were referring to: son of josiah?

[@TheRealCatof]

@@MeattyOkra Yup

[@MeattyOkra]

@@TheRealCatof Yeah it's odd that people would want to just say something and then not want to stick around to see how it was received. Isn't that kind of the whole point of having a comments section, to start discussions?

[@neilcates3499]

millions or possibly billions of people who can't just admit and say that we don't know certain things and we don't (yet) have the answers.

[@trishayamada807]

Neil Cates exactly. I just wrote a crap comment and I should have just scrolled down and gave you a thumbs up first. 👍🏼⭐️

[@richdandanell2911]

Well said .

[@tonedeafduck4859]

Please don't forget these people have been brainwashed since birth. Not sure how much credit we can individually take for dumping the trash.

[@AlexPBenton]

20:07 he admits that there’s nothing to conclude that he’s a brain in a vat, yet he believes that the world is a simulation!!!

[@liberalinoklahoma1888]

Philo of Alexandria has been credited with coming up with the holy ghost idea, he was born about 20 bce and died about 50 ce, he lived in Egypt and was a Jewish scholar and Philosopher, went to Jerusalem AND NEVER MENTIONED JESUS.

[@howerpower-gaming1666]

I own the moon, and its made of candy.

[@howardchance9779]

What kind of candy?

[@rickkernell2486]

@@howardchance9779Chocolate???

[@Amor_fati.Memento_Mori]

Oh My ! I feel like crying now that I have found you. I never met one person, where I come from, that thought like me and you. Whether it be about God or abortion, My perspective on these things was always alien to the folks around me. I feel like a boy who got lost in the crowd but eventually found his parents. I recently started watching Christopher Hitches's Interviews and I guess because of which KZbin thought that I'd like your channel.

[@TheInfestedPest]

Not that Bitch Again ?!? Jaclyn Glenn is also excellent!

[@notthatbitchagain6857]

Emanuel Skeptic TJ Kirk? His atheism stuff is good. But, the other rabbit holes he's happily jumped into are a different story. Except Cult of Dusty l can think if few other KZbinrs who have managed to raise the ire of fellow atheists to the point they've distanced themselves from him. While l can give them the room to be themselves l cab only say tread carefully on some channels.

[@notthatbitchagain6857]

I was just reminded of another excellent channel. TheraminTrees! His brother at QualiSoup also does good stuff.

[@Huntermaro]

Lol and here you are being arrogant. hypocrite

[@notthatbitchagain6857]

THE PEOPLE SING Broomsticks up the ass are not exclusive to one particular group or person. While I too find the Hitch arrogant and off putting. They're a rather small part of his whole, and don't keep me from hearing his message. I can say the same for W. Eugene Scott some 30 years ago as well. Many men who've had meaningful ideas are, and will continue in the future to come off so. Sad you'd rather write these men and their words off so quickly

[@topcat2069]

Bob Dylan Said "You lose yourself, you reappear You suddenly find you got nothing to fear Alone you stand with nobody near When a trembling distant voice, unclear Startles your sleeping ears to hear That somebody thinks They really found you."

[@sirequinox4874]

This show is fun, particularly this episode. I mean, it's more than just an atheist call in show. Ideas get thrown around here that are not explored and examined anywhere else. If there was a philosophy call in show I would also watch that, but this is just as good. Very interesting and informative stuff.

[@stephenjackson7797]

The simulation hypothesis may not be far-fetched. It goes something like this: If any society advances to the point that people can play computer-like games that simulate a universe, then many, many, many, ... , many such simulations are likely going on in that one society. If it's possible to create these simulations, then it might be way more likely that we are in one than that we are not in one. What we don't know is whether it is even reasonable to expect any society to advance to the point of being able to create these simulations. If it is likely, then we're probably in one. If it's not likely, then of course we're not in one. So those who are making fun of this caller don't know the science behind this, and the caller appears not to really understand it either.

[@Ozone280]

The trinity was a misinterpretation. It was originally the goat herder's father, the goat herder's son, and the tasty goat.

[@alangarland8571]

A simulation is a model of something, So there has to be something which it simulates. The simulation argument is just kcking the can down the road.

[@tedgrant2]

The "Trinity" was invented. There was confusion about the Holy Spirit. It's really just a funny feeling that believers sometimes get that they thought was caused by a god. They also wanted Jesus to be promoted to being a god and always was a god. But they also wanted to believe in just one god. So combining three into one became the Trinity.

[@GeorgeIllustrations]

You actually could view the trinity as a Voltron thing...

[@dcrapier]

The Trinity is Vogon poetry.

[@dcrapier]

Ladies & Gentlemen, we have a new regent of word salad among us! Noah said he had evidence - which the hosts did not pursue. Evidence that the universe is fundamentally conscious? Bring it! Rocks are conscious? Water is conscious? Nebulae are conscious?

[@trishayamada807]

I’m sorry this is simply pathetic. Needing to cling to something at all cost. Bouncing from one thing to another. Like going from Santa Claus to big foot.

[@AbrahamMeat]

Lightbringer fucking idiot

[@ericscaillet2232]

Matt has attained a university lecturer's level with the added bonus that he can boot hopeless students out the door instead of having to endure them 😉

[@nuoiptertermer4484]

Jenna must have not known what a deist is. He said he was a deist, then Jenna asked him if he believed in the trinity. Deists believe in a non-personal god. So, not the Christian god. So, they don’t believe in the trinity.

[@DiegoJinkusMusic]

Remember... Noah, votes.

[@MrMrfeenstra]

eek.

[@thecentralscrutinizer]

I don't think he would have the intelligence to tick a box.

[@chrissidiras]

There is a discussion among neuropsychologists on whether the hard problem of concsiousness is even a thing. If Dualism is false, then why consciousness exists is a fundamental(-ish) question, such as why electricity exists. It might get no answer at all, it just is.

[@alankoslowski9473]

Yeah, I've read similar proposals. It may well be that at a certain threshold of neurological complexity consciousness emerges. It could be just that simple and arbitrary.

[@jaymiddleton1782]

Consciousness is a by-product of having an overly complex brain.

[@chrissidiras]

@Jimbus Rift Some whys are answered, some aren't, and some may be unanswerable. Why there is electric charge? Why there is space? Why there is something rather than nothing? Why tides exist?

[@liberalinoklahoma1888]

Cultish Christians had to come up with something to not be in violation of the first commandment, though shall not have any others gods before me.

[@zerokmatrix]

Noah, Noah, Noah, the call was fairly lucid until the Simulation hypothesis and panpsychism came out, and then it all came unravelled, leave just the tired old naked argument of belief without evidence exposing itself again. Aww, I felt quite sorry for him at the end, he sounded totally deflated, lol

[@antonionotbanderas9775]

Simulation argument as laid out by Nick Bostrom: "This paper argues that at least one of the following propositions is true: (1) the human species is very likely to go extinct before reaching a “posthuman” stage; (2) any posthuman civilization is extremely unlikely to run a significant number of simulations of their evolutionary history (or variations thereof); (3) we are almost certainly living in a computer simulation."

[@serioushamster]

If the universe was a simulation it would like any Sims/Simcity game you have ever played. With the creator repeatedly interviewing and doing stuff.

[@meloveAi]

If pool stairs suddenly disappear and people rode on half-finished roller coasters, a lot more people would believe the simulation theory.

[@Fraterchaoraterchaos]

wow, there was a limited rudimentary consciousness before the fetus became fully conscious so was there limited rudimentary consciousness before the sperm joined the ovum? was the there limited rudimentary consciousness before the sperm was created in the father's testicles and the ovum created in the mother's ovaries? no matter when you draw the line, there has to be a point where consciousness (whether "full" or "limited rudimentary") had to arise from something non-conscious

[@chrissidiras]

You can not demonstrate that universe has to be conscious for conscsiousness to be, but you can say that the universe having the ability to produce consciousness (e.g. within humans) is due to simpler characteristics of it. To make an analogy, water being wet has to do with molecules' characteristics (i.e. electromagnetism). The same could be argued for building blocks (i.e. particles) of conscious mashines (i.e. brains).

[@howardchance9779]

Meaning Consciousness is a consequence a particles like water is a consequence of electromagnetism?

[@chrissidiras]

@@howardchance9779 I mean molecules electromagnetic characteristics are the substrate of water's wetness, and consciousness has to have a substrate in the same way. This substrate I postulated that is a particles characteristic.

[@howardchance9779]

@@chrissidiras maybe..so consciousness is simply a consequence of material reality ? Makes sense...neat trick to say the least ... Worthy of wonder and gratitude just for the paradoxical nature of awareness...

[@chrissidiras]

​@@howardchance9779 Calling my view paradoxical without demonstrating it. Please do. By the way what does 'material reality' mean?? Is it different from reality?

[@howardchance9779]

@@chrissidiras yes .. your brain is material if you believe it to be ... But your mind may be a product of that material...it is undefined.. As in consciousness... though you cannot define it or demonstrate its existence other than what you chose to believe...reality is , outside of your own consciousness... a religon of your own making ... One that you can only accept on faith... There is no reality that is demonstratable....

[@hypergraphic]

The one thing that he didn’t mention that many pandeists cite the double slit experiment and how observation influences the interference pattern as proof of a conscious substrate. I must admit as a non scientist, when I first heard that it sounded like conscious (observation) was a fundamental of matter. It’s only a leap of faith from that idea to believing in a universal mind or the simulation. But then I heard physicists explain that observation is not what we think it sounds like and there is nothing mystical going on. To be honest, I’m not sure what to believe as I don’t understand it for myself, but I’m inclined to believe the people who actually study this stuff for a living rather than mystics and new age philosophers.

[@plasticvision6355]

Ronald Jordan Absolutely correct. In terms of what physicists argue, it’s actually very simple. It’s actually the way the measuring apparatus interacts that gives rise to the observed result. In other words it’s the act of measurement itself that gives rise to an observation. Ultimately, one can argue that it is a conscious entity that decides how a measurement is made, so in that sense, and only that sense, what is observed does depend on the action of a conscious agent. But that is quite different from claiming an agents consciousness in and only of itself influences the observation without the mediating effect of measurement apparatus. I hope this helps clarify things for you?

Religious types need to realize, those of us who are rational and logical thinkers are under constant attack by a massive group of people who believe entirely dangerous ideas without any evidence or proof. It’s fucking frightening to us to have these types of people trying to do things like break down the walls that are set up between church and state.

[@controllerbrain]

Our brain is in a vat.

[@danielsnyder2288]

Why is "God" so weak he can't make a universe that does not need his constant intervention

[@norad8u]

Is there a Tesla orbiting the sun?

[@supreme84x]

28:30 we cannot die or become unconscious because if the universe is conscious then unconsciousness can not arise.

[@HappyHippieGaymer]

Its annoying to talk to someone who has a clear confusion about how the universe works, try and assert something about how the universe works. He didnt seem like a dumb guy. He seemed like the exact opposite of stupid. But for some reason didnt grasp why his personal opinion about what is or isnt possible is not a demonstration of what is or isnt possible. Matt was right on the nose to point out that his argument was the same as saying “a single water molecule is not wet, therefore its impossible for water to be wet.

[@SongWhisperer]

(If?) We exist within a simulation , then something created that simulation . Because humanity definitely didn't create it themselves . What created that simulation will be the next question .

[@alankoslowski9473]

It also seems entirely impractical. If we're incapable of perceiving the simulation, then what difference does it make? Since what we perceive as the external world affects our experience in practical terms it *is* real.

[@SongWhisperer]

@@alankoslowski9473 The difference will be after we can perceive the simulation , not before . Once we know the simulation is there , it changes everything .

[@SongWhisperer]

@Stefan Dingenouts That's right , and there's no reason to assume there isn't an after .

[@SongWhisperer]

@Stefan Dingenouts That's right , you believe or don't believe in what ever you want , and I'll do the same . Seems perfectly logical to me .

[@raysalmon6566]

Jesus clearly said God created

[@tedgrant2]

Mary is also considered to be worthy of worship by millions of Christians. If the son of a god is a god, then the mother of that god must also be a god(ess). So now we have four gods. Jesus, Jehovah, Holy Spirit and Mary. A single family of gods. Four in one.

[@suatustel746]

Why are there puppets sitting next to Matt (sidekick)

[@jerzydrozda4950]

Anybody knows what book is she referencing at 19:40 ?

[@toomuchsauce4041]

Did Jenna just say its bad to believe that your mom loves you? Or am I getting something wrong?

[@foxmeisteruk]

The concept of a tripartite god, or gods, predates Christianity by a few thousand years, so to suggest that the "trinity" was too complex a concept to be conceived by man is a nonsense when the concept of the "three in one" was ancient when Christianity was in its infancy.

[@drg8687]

If the universe is conscious then all it cares about is creating black holes and radiation.

[@Fraterchaoraterchaos]

I've never understood the attraction people have for the "simulation hypothesis" If this is a simulation, then we are all essentially just programs. If you think the people (or whatever they are) outside the simulation, that created the simulation, are going to somehow transfer you into their world when you die (or the simulation ends) then you're a fucking idiot. Why would they? If you are playing The Sims, and you're done playing, do you throw a switch that makes your Sims characters become real people? There would seem to be no reason why they (the whoevers that created the simulation) would want to take "us" into "their" "real" world... if they did, they would quickly overpopulate their own world, and for what? Ok, maybe you could make some argument that maybe they would decide to "rescue" some of these Sim Characters, the especially great ones, but what makes you think you'd make the cut? Are you as smart as Steven Hawking? As beautiful as Marylin Monroe? As creative as Picasso? What the hell would make you worth saving? And who the hell even knows what these beings outside the simulation would value? Maybe they'd want the ugliest, most immoral, craziest people from inside the sim, we have no way of knowing. Maybe they would only value left handed people who naturally do not have wisdom teeth... you cannot know what criteria they would use, IF they would even consider bringing anyone out at all... and to make matters worse, how do you know THEY (the people outside our simulation that created our simulation) aren't simulated themselves by some other somethings? And so on? It's just another "maybe this is some way I can pretend to avoid death" wishful thinking exercise, and not a very believable one.

[@deliriousmysterium8137]

Son of Josiah is not a sinner.

[@jeff6660]

I love it when people just make up shit because that's the way they just "feel" it is. No science to back up anything they say...just that all too familiar "warm and fuzzy feeling".

[@HighStakesDanny]

Sounds like the Kermit the frog guy on a filter. Hope that is not true.

[@Xomage999]

It's not easy being in a simulated conscious universe without any demonstrable means of discerning such or being green...

[@howardchance9779]

"Maybe"... At best...as i "maybe" a Vulcan

[@noah7477]

I no longer believe this

[@uk_picker7307]

What made you stop believing it? I'm curious

[@noah7477]

The consensus of physicists don't accept this@@uk_picker7307

[@toddel321]

I am an atheist also, but I think it’s just ignorant to believe that all this arose from matter. Quantum physics has disproven materialism a long time ago.

[@toddel321]

Jesus is Dog : Your lack of imagination disturbs me. Quantum computers do exist btw. Lol

[@toddel321]

Jesus is Dog : Did I hurt your little feelers? It’s ok, you’ll get over it. Sorry this conversation bores me. Your trolling privileges have been revoked. Asshat

[@nuoiptertermer4484]

@Clovencrow Quantum physics never disproved materialism. Materialism is still fine.

[@paulmax3185]

is he saying all life is conscience? Is bacteria conscious? Is a sperm cell conscious?

[@AC-gb7do]

If sperm is conscious, I’m screwed.

[@jiubboatman9352]

The universe is conscious. I am made from exactly the same stuff the universe is made from, I live in the universe and I am conscious. My consciousness is a part of the chemical mixing bowl that is the universe. It's not by design, it's simply an outcome of the nature of our universe. Chemicals plus energy plus time equals consciousness.

[@howardchance9779]

Why do you think the universe is conscious?

[@jiubboatman9352]

@@howardchance9779 Its a philosophical response. My spleen is in my body, is it conscious if it is made od the same stuff as my brain? The same processes that created stars lead to the creation of life and currently humans. I don't need a god or a simulation to find that interesting and amazing. Like I said chemistry + time = humans.

[@jiubboatman9352]

@Chosen One Theism and atheism cannot be combined. One is a belief the other is a lack of belief. What you appear to be describing is agnostic theism.

[@jiubboatman9352]

@Chosen One Being stoned is evidence of the impact of a drug upon a mind. I hit my thumb with a hammer and got angry, that is not proof that hammers make people angry.

[@ahmedbouchaibi5186]

I'm ready for write the best book of atheist. Be ready

[@UngoogleableMan]

Work on you grammar before you write that book there friend.

[@wilfredbateman6141]

Do that you book good forward looking I am.Anticipation bearable is not.luck be good to you in forecast of publication.

[@sycofreake1]

You fail English? That unpossible

[@민구망고]

Noah is my bro from Andy lol

[@noah7477]

Who's andy?

[@민구망고]

@@noah7477 ...

[@trog69]

This guy sounds very much like one who called previously and his call then was just as nonsensically vapid, and he pulled out a host of fringe "experts" for his loony-tunes hypotheses.

[@tonydarcy1606]

Plants appear to be "conscious" of where the sun is, but they don't have brains. Some sort of "awareness" of an organism's surroundings appears to be necessary for the existence of life.

[@redacted3074]

I remember learning about this. Sunflowers, for example, have a mechanism where the stalk of one side of the plant contracts slightly and the the other expands. The reaction depends solely on which side of the plant is exposed to sunlight. No awareness is necessary, only chemical reactions.

[@drg8687]

There's a huge difference between consciousness and stimuli that causes a reaction.

[@drg8687]

Tony D'Arcy are solar panels conscious because they have sensors that track the sun to optimize the energy the produce through the day. Plants do the same thing. Are you suggesting solar panels are also conscious?

[@tonydarcy1606]

@@drg8687 I am no expert but, I would say that consciousness must start with at least an awareness of an organism's surroundings. I gave the example of plants, but there are plenty of other 'more simple' lifeforms responding to the environment. I cite slime moulds as Exhibit 2.

[@tonydarcy1606]

As to solar panels, my guess is yes, in 50 years time they will be conscious, but not currently.

[@TorontoLibertarian]

"I was an atheist for a year." No you weren't. That's not how it works.

[@controllerbrain]

You can change.

[@audience7264]

This guy is just 1 step away from going back to full blown theist.

[@vicariouschism86]

Deism is a form of theism. He already is.

[@suatustel746]

Would you like to be sidekick of Matt be slavish only speak when he pull the strings!!!

[@savagesalvage9449]

So you came back a month later to say it again? You ok friendo? Why does it matter what Matt and his guests are choosing to do with their time? Do you want to be Matt's "sidekick"?

[@MeattyOkra]

1. Space is physical. Time is mental. Space-Time is interlaced and interdependent. 2. Mind is mental. Body is physical. Mind-Body are interlaced and interdependent. 3. We, as conscious beings, appear to have been 'cut from the same cloth' as the universe itself. That "cloth" being the very fabric of Time and Space itself. 4. We are conscious, therefore, The Universe must be conscious.

[@jaymiddleton1782]

Meatty Okra logically fallacious.

[@MeattyOkra]

@@jaymiddleton1782 Which fallacy, False Equivalence?

[@MeattyOkra]

@@jaymiddleton1782 For the record, I had that fallacy in mind while I was writing the initial comment. I simply wanted to see if anyone would agree/disagree with the proposed idea. Hopefully as a means of gaining insight into the ways in which other people think. Like yourself for example, you seem to value logic and are able to see when something does not logically follow even though it may seem to on the surface. My goal is not to change peoples minds, it is simply to inspire people to use them.

[@TheRealCatof]

@@MeattyOkra We are made of carbon and calcium. Rocks exist that are made of carbon and calcium. Rocks are humans.

[@MeattyOkra]

@@TheRealCatof Flip mode that last part and I would be more inclined to agree with you. Humans are rocks.

[@Comrade2face]

Didnt some physicist find programming code in his physics calculations, similar to whats used in our own web browsers,that dude that has morpheus glasses,hosted by neil de grass tyson, also elon musk is a simulation theorist and he is a genius

[@noah7477]

Yeah James Gates

[@thecentralscrutinizer]

We're not in a simulation, we're in a Petri dish in a lab. Prove me wrong.

[@noah7477]

@@thecentralscrutinizer because a pitre dish is ad hoc. Pitre dish would require that the universe is fully subjective

[@Comrade2face]

@@thecentralscrutinizer i dont know but anything is possible in our multiverse, keep on diggin and ill see you in the next dimension

[@AGrayPhantom]

I was starting to feel sorry for the caller. I think he was being civil, but Matt was just annoyed and taking it out on him.

[@AlexPBenton]

It seems like he couldn’t prove his points to other theists and deists, so he’s coming to the atheists so that they can gang up on his “enemies” behind their back.

[@mojobag01]

Jenna's a bit nice.

[@605freedom]

Sad people turn away from God because something tragic happened in there life. Don't forget there are two God's . One is good and the other steals,kills..and destroys.. blame the one who's greatest trick was convincing people he doesn't exist.

[@Alakaizer]

I have never believed in any form of deity. Go out, talk to people, learn some things, and stop making generalizations.

[@notthatbitchagain6857]

Leon D Yeah right. Evidence please. I don't believe in one god. WTAF would I believe in its rival? Take your false dichotomy down the road.

[@markcostello5120]

That would be your god. He goes out of his way to deceive people that he doesn't exist because faith. Also no there are not two gods Satan was a fallen angel which is clearly NOT a god.

[@declanp1]

Nonsense

[@rageofheaven]

@THE PEOPLE SING Why are you here then?

[@sqlblindman]

This was sad to watch. The caller was correct, in that there is a difference between a belief claim and a truth claim. The host's arrogance prevented them from acknowledging that he was correct.

[@plasticvision6355]

sqlblindman Indeed, but this is only partly true. Many people don’t understand that beliefs do not ordinarily carry a burden of proof. That said, the discipline of philosophy as a whole accepts that religious beliefs can be regarded as an exception to this generic rule that requires justification, particularly for those who assert their beliefs to be true, and hence represent them as being truth claims in their own right.

[@sqlblindman]

@@plasticvision6355 You are incorrect. Beliefs do carry a Burden Of Proof, for any rational being. You are incorrect again. The discipline of Philosophy does not, as a whole or to any significant degree, accept that religious beliefs can be regarded as an exception to this generic rule that requires justification.

[@raysalmon6566]

Well another used to be a Christian story Which is in saying he never read the gospels He was never in Gods hand Jesus answered, “I did tell you,but you do not believe. The works I do in my Father’s name testify about me, 26 but you do not believe because you are not my sheep. 27 My sheep listen to my voice; I know them, and they follow me. 28 I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; no one will snatch them out of my hand. 29 My Father, who has given them to me,is greater than all 30 no one can snatch them out of my Father’s hand. 30 I and the Father are one.

[@raysalmon6566]

@Charles Auburn No get an English version

[@aheartonfire7191]

Charles Auburn Um no?

[@Huntermaro]

Blah blah blah. Yet here you are having to defend this almighty god whos been in hiding for 2000 fucking years

[@Huntermaro]

@Brother Sanguinary Right? Reading that barbaric crap is one of the main reasons why people become atheists...

[@AC-gb7do]

ray salmon Explain how some two thousand year old scribbling on papyri should mean anything to anyone that doesn’t believe as you do.

[@gpofgorrilatag4349]

God exist and he loves all of yall. I can assure you

[@UngoogleableMan]

How do you know that?

[@wilfredbateman6141]

Who is tall?I feel sorry for him.

[@devb9912]

Your god doesn't exist I can assure you. that's all we need do, right, just assert something.

[@AbrahamMeat]

I know you believe that. Can you prove it?

[@fredriksundberg4624]

@M.OD. S. S. Winnie The Pooh exist and he loves all of yall. I can assure you

[@BronsonLivesHere209]

Are you good enough to go to Heaven? Have you lied, stolen, used the name of Jesus Christ as a swear word? Have you lusted after a man or woman? If you have, you have broken God’s law. If you stood before God, would you be innocent or guilty? Would you go to heaven or hell? God is “rich in mercy” and doesn’t want you to go to hell. So God sent His Son Jesus Christ to suffer and die on a cross to take the punishment for your sins to save you from hell. You must turn from your sins and trust alone in Jesus Christ to save you from hell so that God can grant you eternal life in Heaven. Then read your Bible and make Jesus Lord of your life. God bless you.

[@jaymiddleton1782]

Sobo Sobo if god is merciful why did he need to sacrifice himself to himself? Even human beings have the power to forgive. Not god, he can’t forgive without human sacrifice. Not merciful at all. But don’t worry, the god you’re talking about doesn’t exist.

[@BronsonLivesHere209]

Jay Middleton God is merciful, but He is also just. The Bible says “without the shedding of blood there can be no remission of sin.”

[@jaymiddleton1782]

Sobo Sobo but god made up those rules. He’s the one who decided that sin can’t be forgiven without bloodshed. Ergo not merciful.

[@wyldink1]

Sobo, you're gonna have to stop copy pasting this shit and posting it in every single video. I'm going to start reporting you for spam if you do not. Make an argument, not a script.

[@Diviance]

Before we talk about "good enough to go to heaven", you have some other stuff to establish first. First, that this "heaven" exists. Second, that someone actually wants to go there. There are more, actually, but we will skip those for the sake of expediency.