Single Best Treatment for Mid-Back or Thoracic Pain (Do-It-Yourself)

[@richardbraida9176]

I had worsening middle back pain for over three weeks after twisting my spine doing strenuous mechanical work. I thought I would need to consult an orthapedic surgeon. I tried your foam tube for about 20 minutes. Felt somewhat better immediately. Next day I felt even better. 2nd day after rolling on the foam I felt absolutely no back pain. Absolutely amazing!!!! You guys should be so proud of the wonderful impact you have on all the thankful people you will probably never meet.

[@rashidminhaspk]

I was changing my clothes and i bowed down to take off my pants, while I got stuck with sharp pain under my left scapula. I got dressed with the help of my wife and moved to the bed too. Then i also searched sudden pain in mid back and appeared to this video. Just tried a towel roll with packing tape on the floor Feeling half way batter (Alhamdulillah) God may bless you for your advice.

[@rashidminhaspk]

@ packing tape

[@MN-br5nb]

AH - back pain sucks

[@SteeleMMA]

Bro same how long did the pain last for?

[@rashidminhaspk]

@@SteeleMMA Dear Brother As early i mentioned, rolling over a towel roll, i recovered almost halfway. Then i got a pain killer with back massage with deepheat cream. But most of the pain was relieved by physical therapy As far the question how long... I was totaly recovered in 24 hrs maximum

[@noahway13]

@@rashidminhaspk You are not giving god any credit for healing you?

[@jerseyshoremomma383]

Worked SO incredibly well! I was having intense spasms in my mid back area and I was using a tens unit to get me through the night until I could see my chiro the next day- but my daughter’s birthday party was the next day and I needed to be a great host for her and our friends and family and after a few prayers, I remembered these amazing guys and BOOM! Such a release in what felt like my sternum area and immediately flared down those spasms! Whoa! Literally instantaneous, miraculous relief! Glory be to God for sending these two amazing men to bless this earth with their knowledge and their generosity in sharing it! 🙌🏼 Thank you will never be enough!

[@Kory-EMTv]

I need this badly, I work standing up everyday and i pray for my spin because I’m hoping it’s nothing serious I have somewhat bad posture especially because I’m standing and typing all day. Please let me know if you any suggestions

[@manashjyoti99]

I was in so much of pain from last 4 months, i could barely move my back without pain, this exercise helped me so much and now i am finding little comfort doing this exercise. So thank you so much to both of you, may God bless you both

[@Kirajiren]

And do you know why, I had the same issue

[@amysturgeon5221]

So glad I searched "Thoracic back pain", and found this. 2 days ago, I strained a muscle in my Thoracic spine area. The muscle that runs parallel to our spine, on the left side. Its sooo swollen, and feels like a rock. I can't take deep breaths, and I HAVENT SLEPT IN 2 DAYS...2 WHOLE DAYS, because everytime my body wants to turn to its side, I am jolted awake with extreme pain. The spasms are THE WORST. I literally cannot breath when they happen. I now have numbness and that weird itching going on that our muscles do when they're pulled. What's worse is, now that I'm "favoring" my left arm (injury on left side), and trying so hard not to cause a spasm, now other parts of my back are beginning to hurt badly. I told myself, "Oh HELL NO, this ends here, look up healing exercises and stretches!" Wish me luck guys, as I'm so utterly exhausted, that I'm even having chest heaviness..because my poor heart is so tired, needs me to be in sleep mode. Update...OMG, I woke up a new woman! I made the DIY Towel roll, and used it. It was painful at first, but not in a bad way, and not for very long. My spine popped in a few places with the most wonderful release! The "rock" that was there began to relax and after lay on it for 20 mins...I subsequently slept for 10 hours!!! And I woke up feeling great! I'm going to use it again now in hopes that I can avoid what I went through in the last 3 days...hellish pain. Thank you so much for this video, you have no idea what you've done for me!! ❤

[@amysturgeon5221]

@spirals 73 Your so very welcome, hun! Yeah, I experienced LIFE ROCKING PAIN for 3 days before I found this video, and tried it. The relief was so wonderful to feel, that I wanted to share my experience. I am still healing, and still utilize my "towel roll", and it hasn't failed me yet. My next step is to look on Amazon for a real one. I hope it works for you, and your able to dream your night away in a deep sleep!

[@berner]

This sounds exactly like what I'm going through and yeah, mine's mostly on the left side. Literally feels like a rock grew in my back and like you, I haven't been getting any sleep because of it. I hope this works as well for me as it did you. Ours is muscular but can you imagine what it must be like for someone with a bruised or broken rib?

[@FarhanAli-id2lp]

Im reading watching tgis vid and reading ur comment at 3am as i have exactly the same issue and i can not sleep. This pain came out of nowhere and im bow desperate for a solution. Im gonna try this in the hopes that itvworks cos if it doesnt ive no idea what im gonna do! Wish me luck!

[@rashidminhaspk]

@@FarhanAli-id2lp Allah may Bless you Complete Wellness

[@phil80sx]

Thank you for posting this. It’s 5 am the day after injury after hardly any sleep. Your comment and results gives great psychological help and gives me the hope that I can get through this quickly.

[@Roriel]

I tried so many different videos to cure back pain, this got rid of nearly all of it in a single session! You guys are amazing.

[@callumedwards8451]

You guys are absolute life savers, I was losing days of sleep due to back pain and one evening at 4AM it was just too much so I got out of bed stretched my back out for an hour and had the best night sleep I’ve had in years. You guys rock!!

[@anyanwunjidekavictoria107]

Watching this after 7years and I most say thank you doctors, have been having this pain for months now, accusing ulcer and cold but after taken ulcer drugs and taken cold injections for 1 week.. Still feel it... This exercise helped, will be doing it everyday now

[@Gun_Talk]

Im a truck driver, so needless to say this type of pain is common. Thank you so much, your method does magical things.

[@zalapski9399]

I strained my back at the gym doing squats- could barely breath hurt so bad. After watching these guys and rolling the sh!t out of my back like they suggested (almost to the point of passing out from the pain) my back was as good as new the next day. No joke my muscle strain was so bad I thought I was gonna be hurt for 2 weeks, and I was back at the gym in 1 day. These guys are the best. Beyond that if you get prescribed physical therapy, save yourself the copay and just look these guys up, and do what they tell you. Never need any complicated expensive equipment.

[@user-hp6pj4sy3k]

This is exactly what happened to me, I hurt my back squatting yesterday. I am very glad to see this comment.

[@stax5290]

@@user-hp6pj4sy3k how are you feeling now?

[@user-hp6pj4sy3k]

@@stax5290 I actually felt better after about 3 days, I didn't even end up rolling out my back.

[@LMCSM]

Lucky you when your worst fear is having pain for 2 weeks. Try knowing you've got that pain for the rest of your life!

[@hoseajorge5083]

Was this your mid back cause if I run it hurts got it by pulling and pushing a heavy old door

[@dennis380]

I'm in my mid 30's and I've been experiencing alot of mid back pain lately due to sitting at a computer. Just stumbled upon your videos today and only 3 videos later and performing your exercises, I'm already getting so much relief! I'm subscribing for sure! Thanks so much!

[@fashionfitnesstrends5668]

Ame problem and same age..what is your Facebook Id so I can share problem with you..??

[@gm2407]

I am so glad you did this video, I sorted my middle back pain by doing the roll in the centre of the back with my knees up (used a rolled up pair of jeans on a hard wood floor. It is a relief and my back feels good as new a week later. Thank you.

[@susanr9877]

I love you guys and truly appreciate all the help you give. Whenever I'm experiencing any issue, I look for a video from you two. I have not been disappointed! Thank you for putting patients first and teaching us all the things you do!!

[@drmuziic8708]

These guys definitely know what they are talking about. Trust me I tried it, and it worked.

[@whydoyouwanttoknowthat]

Worked for me! Mid back catch on the left side. Significant relief from the first time I tried it

[@atozbodyfitness6311]

good video and description. It's so important for people to stretch and foam roll. It's very easy to forget that our bodies, slowly over time and also depending on what job we have are put through a lot and need to be taken care of. Then on top of that if we work out we put it through more stress. Stretching and foam rolling are highly needed especially the older we get.

[@standup1099]

It's amazing I've been doing this for years now and no one showed me it just come naturally to do it to try to relieve pain.

[@mohammedmohsin2128]

Watched this yesterday and used the rollers in the gym this morning. Made a noticeable difference and yes it was uncomfortable whilst I was using the roller. Will definitely do it again tomorrow. I think I will do it before workout and finish off on it as well

[@nagisa3523]

Honestly thanks I’m 20 and I do a lot of gaming this is helping me a lot I’ve randomly started feeling pain and this has helped me a lot

[@masterbard]

Guys you have saved my bacon. I have been suffering from mid back pain for about 2 years. My back was crunchier than a bag of pork rinds. Thanks again. Lots of love from Colombia South America.

[@tisoymac4119]

Bob & Brad, I had a pinched nerve for almost 25 years I am 65 years old now foam roller treat me in only three weeks I am from Philippines. Thank you

[@blairmankey3897]

I had hurt myself in high school (like a pulled back muscle in the upper back) that always feels like my muscles are pulling my ribs out of place. I just got a foam roller delivered to me and I tried this once and it felt amazing! I'm excited to introduce this into my daily routine to keep my back in good shape

[@bremlquan]

How's it going with the chronic discomfort? Have you seen improvement with the roller?

[@blairmankey3897]

@@bremlquan i honestly haven't kept up with doing it on a routine basis, but when I need it, it sure helps! I guess I don't use it all the time because the pain is mostly not there anymore.

[@itsohaya4096]

I'm a stem major and I don't have a car, so I have to walk 4km just in my commute everyday with a heavy backpack full of books. It's no mystery where my pain is coming from lol but I have to thank you guys so much! These exercises and stretches have helped me tremendously ^^

[@mohinderlal1812]

Excellent. I will try this method.

[@TheEmster2011]

You saved me! I am a chronic sloucher and have had the worst, right side thoracic pain. I just did your first exercise, and I feel SO much better. Going to keep doing that and try not to slouch.

[@katieh5604]

I tried the towel and it hurt like hell but actually helped, I just ordered a foam roller Thank you so much I have been so uncomfortable and just the little relief from the towel was amazing

[@adrihanaharajuku]

This helped ALOT yesterday, I just did it again tonight and feel reborn again,

[@noahway13]

You were reborn twice?

[@samher409]

Omg you saved my life. I’ve been locked into this back spasm since 6am this morning. I made my husband tape up a towel and he slid it under my back and POP! Thank you thank you THANK YOU

[@undeadnightorc]

I'll give this a try. I've been getting aches in my mid back the past couple years and I attribute it to poor posture (my job requires me to hunch over an art desk 90% of my work day). When I was younger this was never a problem, I could maintain that posture all day. But now that I'm older I'm starting to feel the strain.

[@kylereese458]

The human body is not designed to sit for long periods, never mind hunched over a desk, like so many people have been over the last 30 years. Add in stooping neck posture from long term phone use which is prevalent from a very young ages now, young people today are going to have very bad spines when they are older. We can all get away with poor posture in teenage years and into our 20's. Usually these things start to come out in someone's 30's if they have been doing it for a while, then it gets worse with time. In your case you can prevent further damage by trying to increase back mobility, strength and correct your posture as much as you are able to during the day. When I am in the office I am sure to get up and have walk around at least every hour, it definitely makes a difference.

[@Msfruity44]

Okay I’ve been in so much pain and have tried physical therapy with little relief. So I’m getting ready to try this and let you know!🙏🏽🌺😇 Thank you for sharing! Okay I am a true critic and all I can say is thank you, thank you, thank you. This exercise really did give me noticeable and immediate relief … Wowww!!!❤️❤️❤️

[@HaleyJoLifts]

Ok wow. I fell on ice last winter and my back has been hell. I think its a pinched nerve. Middle back pain to the left side of my spine. I feel it laying down and i feel intense pain after a few miles of walking. Did this for the first time just now and its already feeling better. Going to do this daily after my workouts. Thank you so much.

[@Zincink]

I randomly pulled a muscle in my sleep while turning over like an injured turtle lol! Who hurts themselves while turning over to sleep?! Anyway thanks for sharing your wisdom!

[@thencarolinaman1934]

Did you get better? I have sharp excruciating stabbing pains only when I move certain directions. Did you experience simular?

[@techaditya7055]

@@thencarolinaman1934 pain from mid back to chest

[@Swank1900]

@@thencarolinaman1934 I have terrible pain when twisting my torso

[@shashwatniroula9175]

@@Swank1900me too. Let me know if anything hepled u

[@vviimmi]

it really depends on age and physical activity, sometimes just exercising a rang of motion for a few secs will get those muscles oxygenated and nimble

[@geovannycastaneda7442]

You guys are the best, thanks to you both, now I feel better than ever, this exercises really helps, I had went to 4 different doctors and none of them could help me to take off the pain, but after doing these exercises I feel much better! I’m just only 20 years old and is kind of frustrating to be feeling pain and unable to do other activities because of the pain.

[@cattyelse2372]

its frustrating at any age mate

[@godfathermarkus515]

Best solution of mid back pain Thanks a lot

[@oguzoner3050]

So helpful for everyone, health is the most important in the life, take care of yourself everbody

[@shahinakamal9347]

Thanks alot.i was suffering from severe pain and after this excercise feeling lot better.Kudos to you guys.

[@Jesse357MT]

Bob & Brad, After rapid weight loss I'm experiencing a LOT of mid-back muscle fatigue pain. Can you talk about the specific muscles I should be targeting at the gym to replace the support that used to come from fat around the spine?

[@williamcattey6906]

I have an infrequently reoccurring thoracic back spasm that has come on with varying degrees of severity. Using a roller as mentioned in this video is the best remedy I have found. (Heat, hot shower, different yoga stretches, until finally resorting to muscle relaxants.)The roller technique nipped the problem in the bud, and headed off more severe instances.Thank you VERY much for this!

[@rockybalboa8378]

Wow, thanks you guys are great. Just tried some of your stretches and instant relief.

[@sonnyaggarwal9480]

Are there any specific exercises to strengthen or modulate tone for thoracic pain if this only provides short term relief for a chronic issue?

[@mcryu5]

Had back pain for 3 days, helped instantly!

[@SusanBame]

Nice. I just tried this using my buckwheat hull pillows: a neck roll pillow and a regular (small Japanese style) pillow. Both were effective. I couldn't put my head on the floor completely, using the regular pillow; using the neck roll pillow, I popped the back a few times. A buckwheat hull pillow will give much more resistance and substance than foam or rolled-up towels. Love your channel & will recommend it to clients who come for their bioacoustic tones.

[@ektardiff]

So glad I found your video this morning. I am a preschool teacher, so I’m always on the floor with my students, bending over and sitting with a rounded back. I have had mid-back pain for a few days and have been unable to move or sleep well. Ice didn’t help. Heat didn’t help. I saw your video and thought I’d give it a try. It “hurt so good” and I got several big cracks. Then the bulging pain was gone. I’m a little sore just from aggravating it so much over the last few days, but that dull bone-like-ache (only way I can describe it) is gone. Thanks, guys! You really are the best PT’s on the Internet!

[@mhaas281]

I do both, road bike and sit in a office chair and have had some pain in the upper mid right side. Thanks for showing this.

[@leveractiongypsy1848]

You guys really get it right in your vids for the DiYer lol...this video helped my mid back pain immensely -the hanging from a chin up bar vid really helped my shoulder pain - thanks for all you do here for free for people without the means to afford care out of pocket

[@BobandBrad]

So happy we could help and hear that you are doing better! Keep up the great work!

[@mrpanos933]

After this video I finally slept after 7 days !!

[@mdyusufansari8897]

I don't sleep for 2 days

[@aonoymousandy7467]

I didn't sleep for 1 month, lol, jk

[@aonoymousandy7467]

Any update?

[@mdyusufansari8897]

@@aonoymousandy7467 nope still suffering pain

[@beans726]

Lucky you...

[@aonoymousandy7467]

Wow, you guys are amazing, i have this a try with the towels and i felt some good cracking, now a lot of the pain and tingling sensation disappeared. I'm going to order the foam roller

[@noahway13]

Odd. My back hurts and when I roll a certain place on my back, my groin and both legs start to tinge and hurt.

[@aonoymousandy7467]

@@noahway13 my pain was in my mid back lower thoracic region. It sounds like you have a lower lumbar area pain

[@FWACATA]

I’m glad I’m not the only person praising you guys! I did as the video said and oh man my back cracked in a way it hasn’t in years! It was that good pain as you said everything was relieved! THANK YOU SO MUCH! You guys are a life saver!

[@AlanTheFellow]

Anatomy 0:24 Possible Reasons 0:54 Treatment (How to make the towel)1:18 And how to use the Towel 1:45 When *NOT* to do it 2:18 Alternativly 2:38 Instead of buying it (which i did) you might want to build one yourself (just google "foam roller self made")

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[@Housenumber68]

Thank you

[@bffentertainment7848]

What wonderful doctors!! These are real caring men. Love them!!!!

[@Steagan]

Once I discovered the foam roller at the gym, I bought one of my own by golds gym. $30 saved me tons of pain and discomfort.

[@manomedia8278]

thats amazing thank y'all. It helped actually it fixed my pain.

[@DEMONIKMANIAC]

You guys are awesome, I didn't use a roller but a sort of soft ball which ended up work amazing. Thanks so very much guys.

[@RudiTartaglia]

Pain went straight away. That's crazy. Thanks guys...

[@TruthofDilly]

Omg THANK YOU...I seriously want to shout that from the rooftops !! THANK YOU 🙏

[@caddieguy6510]

I got this pain from Caddying, carrying heavy bags on big rolling hills. This helped me a lot

[@antonioramirez3789]

just strained my mid thoracic back doing my sunday morning stretches ,something I've been doing for months ,must have pushed to hard to quick ,its hard to breath in certain positions, definitely gonna get a roller ,thanks guys

[@TivonSanders]

I strained my back tonight at the gym doing squats (mid/thoracic), and tried the first exercise and no lie; I heard a small "pop" from my back, just as he said would happen. I can now move my torso from left to right, bend down at the hip, and pick up my bike without pain. Foam rolling worked like magic. I think I'll go back to the gym now. LOL

[@wandacruz5608]

Working USPS in an office and oh boy my mid back hurts. Can’t wait to see my results.

[@daneablake-wilmott7535]

I've been having thoracic spine pain for quite some time now. I fine that cracking my bad helps to relieve it for a little. But I think I've gotten addicted to cracking my back, just wondering if cracking my back very often will make it worst?

[@DarkLevis]

Yes, it can make it worse. Try to limit to once a day or even less. Otherwise your back will start cracking all the time and might start getting pain from that at one point.

[@edgarperez678]

I am crying over here.... You guys helped me, thank you

[@VivaLuisyana]

Wonderfully made! Love how easy going you guys were. Instant relief for sure. Many thanks!

[@tidussora1022]

great video. I've had a pinching pain recently right between my scapulars that i can't get rid of and when i rotate to the left i get a pain under my left scapular. any suggestions that could help

[@conejasm]

Felt great but the pain got so much worse. I was stuck on the floor for an hour. I've had this pain since childhood. I really wish I could find a permanent solution.

[@angelacarlock3574]

Oh my, what have doctors told you the issue is?

[@conejasm]

@@angelacarlock3574 always hear something different. Been dealing with this since I was a kid.

[@ibtd]

What kind of doctor r u seeing? Have u tried chiropractic treatment?

[@annikamortensen9981]

Same here. It first started when I was sledding as a kid & comes on and off a few times a year. I’ve been in PT and it’s done nothing:( I’ve learned that lifting weights is a trigger so now I’ve been avoiding that but I love lifting and don’t want to avoid it for my whole life!!

[@timjansen7694]

You guys are the best physical therapists on the internet. That is just my opinion, of course. Anyway, I have been having mid-back spasms every couple of days for a few weeks. They come out of nowhere and last about 15 seconds. There is mild, residual soreness. The location is just left of my spine by a couple of inches and slightly above elbow level. I'm not sure if the video's therapy addresses that kind of problem or if it is more for spine/disk problems.

[@turtlepodproductions]

Why is this the best video that ive ever seen

[@NicholasNerios]

I do this already... I'm fairly active, but it's sitting or laying that generates the sharp burn....

[@BobandBrad]

Hopefully this helped!

[@ClipzCollective]

I didn’t get any pops cause I’m really active but so far this has worked out well

[@OoMASEoO]

I was on a walk carrying a big bag of stuff and out went my back. I tried to roll my back against trees and poles like a bear to no avail. The rolled towel helped a bit.

[@amritpalsingh517]

How often should we target to do it? Like once or twice etc every day?

[@tonithompson9086]

This or the towel method will also help "unlock" frozen facet joints. That is my issue. My chiro also puts his hand under the thoracic area and pushes me down on his hand onto the table. That works great!

[@admiroshafi7748]

Awesome. These exercises saves my life. Thank you so much !

[@TruthofDilly]

Read your reply so gave it ago...THANK YOU!🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏

[@210SAi]

These older videos are so much better. Succinct and straight to the exercises

[@kristin1533]

Thanks, guys! My back feels less painful and more flexible after these exercises.

[@kennethmorck5972]

Thoracic pain and tightness for weeks now here. Last thing I thought to do was roll out my back. Gonna give it a shot and report back

[@Markymarkbejammin]

You guys are sharing some great knowledge! Thank you my back feels much better!

[@scrap279]

Very Helpful!!!

[@1804kev]

Instant relief.. may god bless u

[@julietaferrario4934]

I need help for chronic pain I’m fused C3-7 Thoracic 7/8 and L4 to S1 . What exercise can do

[@sandeepbgowda4168]

😅still helpful in 2024

[@attra91]

I thank you two for your time. Know your videos are helping more then a few. Again I thank you. P.S. Love the Mutt and Jeff show.

[@ren1643]

I have a job that had me bend over a lot. I’m a tall guy and it really starts to hurt by the end of my shifts. What can I do to build the strength to do my job. Or how I can move in a way that prevents the pain. This works. I foam roll everyday after work.

[@OoMASEoO]

It's amazing how a deep strain can even effect your breathing

[@zachary4225]

Got this bad pain out too nowhere today which lead me here. Hopefully this works. Cuz this pain is no joke 😢

[@BobandBrad]

Hopefully they help! Take Care

[@marvinvalencia5427]

I was using a foam roller which caused a compression fracture on T9. Now I am experiencing severe muscle spasms and excruciating pain.

[@Cece_Si]

Y’all are the BEST ♥️

[@gunjanbahl8348]

I am also going to try this I m having pain in my thoracic region

[@mohammad00sajid]

thank doctors...

[@ggeianeiss8925]

We miss Bob❤

[@johngilman1500]

Hi Bob and Brad, Have you ever shared some exercises to help with DISH. I recently diagnosed with this ad a result of some sharp knee buckling pain while playing golf. Interestingly it happens with small swings, not big ones, but then back becomes unstable for the rest of the day. Looking for your help. Love your videos and used them frequently. Jack Florida

[@silviab8377]

I didn't start feeling the mid back pain/extreme pressure, till I received a couple of adjustments from my chiropractor... suggestions?

[@jakedorman6975]

Instant relief. Thank you so much!!!

[@LifeinAmerica2022]

Yesterday I had sudden mid back pain i almost coulnt move. I was walking scrouched, took 1000 mg tylenol and hot compress. The pain subsided but still lingering with threat of happening again with wrong posture

[@VJones-ob3wn]

I would think that this day in age with so many people sitting in front of a computer most days or all days without proper breaks or position shifting that this type of injury is common place and on the rise, because people sit more and some for hours.

[@stefanfilipov7254]

Nice video,but it is important to know that you shouldn't exceed 5 minutes especially for the second exercise.If u overdo it you will get pain from the cylinder instead.

[@WanderingNature]

Thank you, thank you, thank you

[@abdullahmahmud9846]

Last night i suffered a lot of this type of pain.It was extreme level..😓😓😓

[@AntiZionist101]

I agree though that Foam roller is much better for Thoracic Mobility drills, but nice video anyway.

[@rakibrps4708]

After watching this vedio i try it...itz worked, Alhamdulillah i feel good now..how many time should i try this?

[@arjunwadhwani3974]

Your voice isn't clearly audible. I have an issue about back fatigue at mid back level. not pain; the area around the spine seems to be affected ; it is like someone would feel tired, exhausted, requiring rest; later when I sit upright for some time I get relief. Could you please suggest a diagnosis.

[@WendyRisoli]

For over a month ive had mid back pain, into ribs. I move, it hurts so bad i flunch, cant breathe. Ive used heat, cold, various pain pills, creams, exercise. I cant get in, out of bed or move in bed takes fifteen minutes. My back, ribs throb, spasm.