Sinister Diesel EGR delete for my 6.4 Powerstroke! (Step by step instructions)

Sinister Diesel EGR delete complete install.

[@XEI_520]

Best delete video 👌 good commentary, good video, you name the socket sizes and dont skip a step; A+ sir

[@themichiganoutdoorsman]

Thank you!

[@Prariedog]

@@themichiganoutdoorsman are you still happy with the egr delete kit ?. I'm thinking of getting one for my 6.4

[@themichiganoutdoorsman]

I sold the truck, but I was very happy with it and would recommend it just for the added room you get if you need to work on anything in the engine bay.

[@warrenself]

Thorough walkthrough. It’s too bad we can’t get race parts from reputable makers in the states now.

[@themichiganoutdoorsman]

I agree!

[@RWB930]

Only China

[@kevinoneill41]

My 08 6.4 has completely changed its breaths better the turbos sound better PS I had to change the stock air filter. It was way too restrictive. The change air filter light kept coming on. I put an after market high performance kit in. Now she has way more pickup especially when I have a load in the back. In the last year after the delete, my truck is much more responsive.

[@themichiganoutdoorsman]

Wow that’s awesome!

[@The73idigarage]

Ya the stock crap is way too restrictive

[@RWB930]

Great vid

[@ironjohn5914]

Just leave the 6.4 all stock and run hot shot in your fuel and change oil and fuel filters currently going on 574k miles all stock 6.4

[@jonnylaw6719]

Have injectors been done John ? I ask because that is very very good , I have 236k all stock besides dpf delete on my 08 6.4

[@ironjohn5914]

@@jonnylaw6719 original injectors

[@The73idigarage]

In case u didn't already know, the emission system is actually the downfall of the 6.4, Delete the emission system, & it's as good as a 7.3 or 6.0

[@billlee5031]

Way to get into it and not all the background bs

[@Dirty6.4GorillaYee]

How long did it take you to install the egr delete kit? Your video going to help me ALOT when I delete the egr off my truck.

[@themichiganoutdoorsman]

DIRTY.6 YEEYEE GANG. Hello, it took me 6 hours with filming, going into town for coolant and getting those two nuts removed that rounded on me by my manifold.

[@brianholloway6285]

Did you install a tuner, what kind

[@themichiganoutdoorsman]

I went from the mini max tuner to EZ Lynk for custom tunes.

[@compactbubble3890]

I would be careful on your driver up-pipe, the bracket holding it tends to fail and then you get a exhaust leak, also then your ebp pipe is holding all that weight and then that snaps, happened to me yesterday morning, so now I am taking off the driver up-pipe and tapping in to the block off plate when I move it up where they meet at ( involves cutting and welding ) ( doing this with cab on )

[@shaggy232350]

I have a pic of a plate that has been drilled and tapped and has the fitting installed for the ebp tube...but I don't know exactly what that fitting is called or what size it is. Please email me at [e-mail] and let me know. The blockoff plate I have is pretty thick. So as long as I can get it drilled and tapped, it shouldn't be able to back out. Should I use locktite? And I do plan to remove the uppipe that is known to crack at the bracket. I heard it is possible, hard but possible, to remove the uppipe without cutting it or raising the cab. I also heard the horizontal cooler is hard to remove but can be done. Since the radiator will be empty, and if I do change it to gold antifreeze, this would be a good time to flush it...this leads me to another question...do you think I should go ahead and flush the radiator system and put the gold in it? When I bought our truck almost 5 years ago, it already had green antifreeze in it. I have not had any problems with it leaking or any cooling problems so far. I know the 6.4 powerstroke is supposed to have gold antifreeze, is that right? It has not quite 116,000 miles. I don't know how long or if it even has it done...but would you recommend changing to gold and what about thermostats and hoses? Please email me at [e-mail] and let me know. Please put 6.4 in description in case it goes to spam thanks everybody

[@compactbubble3890]

@@shaggy232350 I sent you a email, feel free to get back to me when possible

[@bthorn5035]

Any argument against leaving the horizontal cooler in place, attached to the up pipe, but with the delete plate in between?

[@themichiganoutdoorsman]

@bthorn5035 I have seen a few shops, delete those trucks that way leaving all the coolers down below. I like having mine out just for the extra room in case I need to work on anything but they are a pain to remove.

[@bthorn5035]

@silverback72745 Yes. Those pipes don't typically crack if if left stock so I don't see why a 3/8 block off plate is going to make a difference. Just slide the cooler forward a tad. I did have to drill out the threads on my plate, though. No big deal.

[@raykasza6855]

Thanks for the good video Jeremiah. How long did it actually take you to do this job, start to finish? Thanks, Ray Kaz.

[@themichiganoutdoorsman]

Thanks! I finished it in 3-4 hours if I remember correctly.

[@a.j.8926]

is there a benefit to physically removing the EGR instead of just telling the tuner to remove it? I know it's one less thing to leak, but does it help performance? great video. I bought a delete kit but never installed it. I just told the tuner to ignore it. thanks.

[@themichiganoutdoorsman]

I did the same thing for over a year. To me it makes sense to remove it as is prone to blockage as the coolant still flows through it. It can leave behind some residual sluds that can build up over time is the coolant breaks down from just everyday use. I didn’t notice any cooler temps

[@Ardyez]

You may be able to just install block plates and remove the egr system from the ecu if you want to keep the system itself in tact. This is what I plan to do since my state has strict emissions laws and it would be a hassle to reinstall the whole thing. The problem with just removing it from the ecu without blocking the exhaust is it will clog your valve with soot since it's not cycling, and should you ever need to reenable it, it might cause issues. The block plates will keep the coolers and the valve from getting gunked up/being a failure point since the system will be disabled and the valve cannot cycle. Essentially the same thing as a delete for those that wish to keep the hardware in tact.

[@bthorn5035]

​@Ardyez I'm thinking about leaving the horizontal cooler in place with the blocking plate installed. Did you run into any issues for yours?

[@ShillDozer]

I know this is an old comment, but I'm having trouble finding answers. I'm planning on disabling the egr for now and maybe fully remove it later. My question is, do you have to unplug it, and if so, how many plugs and what are their locations?

[@ShillDozer]

I know this is an old comment, but I'm having trouble finding answers. I'm planning on disabling the egr for now and maybe fully remove it later. My question is, do you have to unplug it, and if so, how many plugs and what are their locations? 4:06

[@squirlly2]

how long were you running your truck with the tuner and dpf deleted before you deleted the egr

[@themichiganoutdoorsman]

Little over a year. No issues.

[@codycox3458]

Did the pipe that went to the horizontal egr with the ebp sensor ever crack I heard that’s a problem with removing the horizontal egr cooler

[@themichiganoutdoorsman]

Mine hasn’t yet. Probably put 30,000 miles so far. But I can see it easily doing it. It’s petty flimsily.

[@bthorn5035]

Man, I am really struggling with that coolant hose by the horizontal cooler. Do I get it off before removing the cooler or after? I'm dying here.

[@themichiganoutdoorsman]

I can’t remember haha

[@gonzalotoro2379]

Excellent video, what happens if I remove only the EGR with a tuner, but I do not remove it physically, does it produce a fault?

[@themichiganoutdoorsman]

Good question, I waited to remove my EGR components about 1 year after tuning the truck. You just tell the people tuning the truck that it’s removed and they will put a program that reads over the EGR and you won’t have a problem. Is you buy a tuner off the internet like a H&S mini max just chose the Emissions removed tab when setting up your tuner

[@dodgefan1259]

The issue is if the cooler starts leaking internally. So deleting them saves you the trouble

[@a.j.8926]

this is what I have done. The physical EGR is still installed. I just told the tuner it was removed. I bought a pipe/kit to remove it completely but I never installed it. It looks like a lot of work, seemed easier to just tell the tuner to ignore it. I don't know if it is as good, it is certainly a lot easier. I am also curious if it is the same. I have mini max from H&S.

[@zacharyblackburn4461]

I’m currently doing the egr delete and have stopped for the night. I’m stuck at the horizontal cooler. The 2 bolts holding it in are rounded like yours. Going to pick up extractor tomorrow. How did the extractor work? Was it a lot easier to get them out with those sockets?

[@themichiganoutdoorsman]

My extractor works a little better if you can tap in on the extractor while turning the extractor to get it to bite. If you have a torch and can heat it up that would help.

[@zacharyblackburn4461]

jeremiah valpatic I completed the job. Only tricky part is I couldn’t get 2 out of the 3 sensors for the exhaust for the dpf delete. I don’t want to brake them. Any tips? That extractor works perfect for rounded off bolts

[@themichiganoutdoorsman]

I ended up accidentally breaking mine, I think I have one that I was able to save, but I know if you have your delete tunes then it don’t matter if those sensors work because the tuning lies to the computer and tells the computer a different temperature so you don’t regen any more.

[@shaggy232350]

My truck was worked on before I got it. It still has the egr and coolers on the truck but it has been "deleted" so it doesn't regen. Only problem I have is when I load the tow tune or a tune that's NOT a tow tune but is at or lower than the tow tune, about every other time I start the truck, it throws a code for an egr fault. I clear it with the tuner and it doesn't come back on until I turn it off and crank it again. I contacted the shop that did the work but it turns out they got burned by EPA so they said they couldn't do anything to help...like check the tunes for something that is causing this. So I'm worried that when I actually delete the egr, will I run into a problem? Plus I am worried that something related to the coolers could start leaking

[@oscarreyna5538]

That plug thats sitting on top of where the EGR was at on top of the motor, what is that used for?

[@themichiganoutdoorsman]

If it’s the one I think you are thinking of it’s used to open and close the EGR valve. There’s also one that goes above and plugs into the fan.

[@bthorn5035]

Can you remove the driver up pipe altogether? Seems to be a common problem when doing an egr delete.

[@dmajones4874]

So what happens to the sensors connected to the egr coolers

[@themichiganoutdoorsman]

The tuner will override them.

[@sunny2685]

Hows your truck running now ? I just got a 6.4 with stock no egr delete . Planning on doing that.

[@themichiganoutdoorsman]

I ended up selling my truck about 7 months ago. Someone ended up giving me what I wanted for it and I couldn’t turn it down. However they keep me updated and so far the truck is running great!

[@sunny2685]

Can you tell me more on the fuel mileage ? After the delete did it change, increased ?

[@themichiganoutdoorsman]

Yes, it went from a 12 to 14 miles to the gallon to a 17 to 19 miles to the gallon on Highway

[@Derrikw1808]

I did the delete but now afterwards my truck likes to scream like it has a supercharger when I give it gas, any insight on this? Did I do something wrong and not realize it?

[@themichiganoutdoorsman]

Does the sound come from the rear of the motor? It could be the up pipes to the turbo is cracked. They are prone to doing it after the delete as they lose the bottom support for the pipe. You will see some black soot on the firewall of the truck. That’s all I can think of right now.

[@Derrikw1808]

It’s more from just the driver side and there’s no soot, I think I might have not tightened that manifold block off plate tight enough and it might be leaking. I’m planning on taking it off and putting some gasket sealer on and I’ll get back to you on whats going on from there

[@themichiganoutdoorsman]

Ok thanks I’m curious to know!

[@Derrikw1808]

Iv got a update for everyone It was a exhaust manifold leak I didn’t tighten one down enough by accident, thank you for your help

[@themichiganoutdoorsman]

Awesome!

[@55rajo]

thanks man

[@oscarreyna5538]

Where did you buy the kit and do you have a tuner?

[@themichiganoutdoorsman]

I bought the kit from sinister diesel as they were having a sale on delete parts. They no longer make it anymore because of the epa. I was using ez lynk tunes.

[@codyalt5871]

What bolt extractor kit did you get

[@themichiganoutdoorsman]

It was from Amazon I’m not sure the brand but it has held up well!

[@JimHerbertOutdoors]

Been working on cars professionally for 15 years and this is the first time Ive heard somebody refer to the coolant bottle as the "Degas bottle". Wtf 😄😂

[@Sasquatchmedic]

Thats what Ford calls it. Its even in the manual in glove box.

[@jaydaniels9529]

Welcome to the world of modern diesels.

[@chrisleigh06]

It’s actually what is called wtf lmfao what a goog go back to working on Hondas 😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🥴🔫

[@HappyTimes024]

What did you do with all wires attached to the egr

[@themichiganoutdoorsman]

I still have them attached in the wire loom just hanging out 😊 there isn’t anything too hot or going to catch them where they are at.

[@shaggy232350]

Attached to what? Isn't there something on the egr that has a plug attached to it? Did you put tape over it so it wouldn't get water in it? I thank you for taking the time to make the video. Are you going to leave the uppipe that the ebp sensor and tube is attached to on your truck? These are prone to cracking at the support bracket and this allows exhaust heat to hit the firewall. I have read about truck catching fire. This is what I was referring to about removing the uppipe and putting that thick blockoff plate there, right behind the turbo. You need to drill a hole in it, tap it and attach a fitting (I'm trying to find out exactly what that fitting is called and what size it is) so you can attach the ebp tube to it. The tube is long enough so that you don't have to lengthen the wires for the plug to reach. If you will, send your email...or email me at [e-mail]. I may have more questions. Thanks

[@michaeldills1608]

@@shaggy232350I am in process of the install and looking for recommendations/instructions on the block off plate. Did you move to the top as opposed to where the horizontal cooler is located? Thanks

[@coltonmousseau4517]

How many km or miles on the truck?

[@themichiganoutdoorsman]

125,000 miles right now.

[@treybond4446]

Please get back to me ASAP I’m not sure where you picked this up bc it’s not on sinister website but I’m in a bind and cannot find an EGR block off kit like yours anywhere but eBay. Please let me know I need one and don’t want to buy a knockoff or a cheap one in the first place

[@themichiganoutdoorsman]

Hello Trey Bond I ordered my delete kit just before sinister diesel discontinued them, they send out a email to those subscribed and let us know they are no longer making them. I’m sorry you couldn’t find any, I know there are some other good brands like No Limit fabrication you might be able to get one from them. For sure don’t by anything cheap because your diesels life depends on it:)

[@Doom6.0]

Sinister stopped selling them in April. Because of the E.P.A. Nobody is selling delete kits anymore.

[@LavaughnVanbrocklin]

Go to ebay

[@bobbysmoke6.4dzl94]

DOOM 524 the EPA can do tha new jack swiiiiiiing on ma nuts!!!!!

[@shaggy232350]

Anybody know of or familiar with the SPELAB egr delete kit?

[@sevintrevino5658]

Man the camera really makes it look like there’s way much room than there really is 🤣

[@ZHPBrent]

great info, hows the truck after?

[@themichiganoutdoorsman]

So far so good!

[@frognutz0o]

Anybody know how much the 6.0 sinister egr delete kit was before they took it off site? I found a few kits, just want to know if it is was overpriced.

[@themichiganoutdoorsman]

Unfortunately I can’t remember.

[@theslush3574]

Does sinister diesel delete trucks

[@themichiganoutdoorsman]

They quit selling delete parts for my truck shortly after I bought mine.

[@kadenstrain9230]

Where can I find a sinister delete kit? They don’t have it on their site.

[@themichiganoutdoorsman]

They quit making them a few years ago after the EPA cracked down on everything

[@kadenstrain9230]

@@themichiganoutdoorsman yeah I figured...thank you. Great video!

[@RichardPyne]

The Bully Dog tuner will NOT work with an EGR delete. It pretends that everything is fine as you go through the install, but the second time you try to start the engine, it locks you out and wont let the engine start. Don't waste your time!

[@Sasquatchmedic]

Mini Maxx will!

[@dethray1000]

yeah bully dog paid a huge fine so they suck now

[@explore76llc]

You have a link to the instructions

[@themichiganoutdoorsman]

No I don’t

[@alexpudge4671]

What Tuner are you using?

[@themichiganoutdoorsman]

I am using EZ lynk 2.0 with custom tunes from tryant.

[@nicolascoley4412]

Next time back the whole stud out instead of taking the bolt off

[@garrylarose1506]

too bad they dont sell this kit anymore

[@themichiganoutdoorsman]

I know! This is the best looking in my option.

[@garrylarose1506]

@@themichiganoutdoorsman Ya i dont think they sell any delete kits. I think its illegal now or ome bullshit. Because the weather

[@ShillDozer]

When you had your egr disabled before you removed it did you need to unplug it or just tell the tuner to disable it?

[@themichiganoutdoorsman]

I cannot remember if I unplugged it, but the tuner will overlook it so you don’t have to worry about it

[@ShillDozer]

@@themichiganoutdoorsman Thank you for your replies on such an old video.