The Truth About The 6.4 Powerstroke

[@MrMedicAdnan]

I just purchased a 2008 F450 dually with a 6.4, drove it home from northern Michigan in a blizzard and danced all the way home lol. That thing is a MONSTER.

[@jaketryban8772]

Where bouts in northern Michigan?

[@EduardoRamirez-l7y]

I got a 6.4 Powerstroke with 130k miles for 13 thousand and besides the turbos being replaced by us; it’s been a amazing truck and especially with the delete and tune

[@Jeff-us7yj]

I have a 2008 Ford F250 with a 6.4 it has 418,000 Miles on it. Still runs strong. Love it.

[@Willie.20]

Is it deleted

[@Jeff-us7yj]

@@Willie.20 Yes it is deleted.

[@forexsoldierz3080]

How many miles did you delete? I have 4 years on my extended warranty but can’t delete or it is void. I’m at 140669 as of today.

[@Jeff-us7yj]

@@forexsoldierz3080 it was deleted when I bought it. I got 421,000 on it now

[@whoisfluffy3476]

Back in 2019 we bought an 08 with 71k miles for about 24 grand, it’s been an amazing truck and haven’t had a single problem other than aftermarket parts the previous owner installed, I definitely recommend that people buy one that’s still in great condition and low mileage

[@samsnow13]

They’re great trucks! The early maintenance is everything and most people just write them off as junk because of other people’s opinions. Nice to see yours is treating you well!

[@smokendiesel4958]

@@samsnow13 hey ,,,,,,, another 6.4 power stroke owner here ,ours is an 2009 and we still use it to this day with over 205K miles and going on our 8th year of owning the Beauty beast

[@janamaro5894]

@@smokendiesel4958 Except for the 09-10 6.4 truck model year is least problematic.

[@plutoxdior6541]

i had a brand new 6.4 powerstroke i bought from my local ford dealership in 2008 and i had it all the way till 2010 when the new 6.7 came out and i upgraded, i no longer own the 6.4 but i do know that the current owner still has it and the truck is still running to this day, not sure what the new owner has done now but i sure its deleted and just being maintained. it seems some are just like golden gooses lol. its a shame most of them are in the quality they're in nowadays. such cool trucks. during the time of ownership it never really had issues. it was fully stock other than the SCT tuner that was in it. and it was used pretty hard for work but always maintenanced oil, and all fluids even before they tell you to.

[@nativeoutdoors1780]

I bought a 2008 cclb dually with 430 gears and she rips with her 6.4, bought it stock at 115 and I enjoy it and love it. Like everyone says delete and maintenance and lemme say it sounds good and looks good. I would love a newer 6.7 since for me they look way easier to work on but I enjoy the 6.4 it isn't so bad to work on and they are such a good value, I bought mine at 20 years old and the only mods I do are the ones I want and some differential stuff but I love these trucks. Glad I was recommended this video I love seeing the content for 6.4s

[@samsnow13]

Thanks for the comment dude. I’m not a huge fan of the new 6.7 body style personally but the 2011-2015 body styles are super nice in my opinion. Mine has 122 on it now and it’s as solid as ever. I can understand the hate these get but there’s a level of understanding that goes with it too. You can’t just be any person and own a 6.4. You have to understand the strict maintenance it requires and a lot of people don’t know/don’t care about that aspect. I love me a dually!

[@FBCStuttgart]

I had a 6.4 for several years. It was deleted with the h&s programmer. I loved it. It had 306k miles on it when I sold it. Still a very strong truck!

[@kevinoneill41]

I run the MinMax but she is running a low tune and stays on stock I have used the tow setting a few times pulling a trailer through the Canadian Rockies and a couple of times with a heavy load. But she has never been raced. That would be death to these engines want to race to build a race engine. I love it. I let the coolant go low with a leek in the rad that caused a blown front plate but she runs fine. Has 136 K miles and proper servicings

[@AcousticHills]

I have a 6.4l deleted egr and dpf. FASS fuel filtration system and high flow oil filter/cooler systeme. Incredibly reliable, runs very strong and sounds awesome. So far, over 340,000 kms and still going strong. Only thing that went was the HPFP. Was able to repalce it along with all 8 injectors without removing the cab due to the egr delete 🎉😊

[@clarkwilliams9967]

great vid man! not very people here on the tube were i can set my phone down and listen to a video, you are well spoken

[@samsnow13]

Thanks man! Much appreciated

[@PowerStroke1]

Thank you for your astute observations and comments. When considering a 2008 F-350 dually with 53K miles in February 2021, my first thought was that this could be a ticking timebomb--BUT it was the least expensive option ($23k during COVID) to replace the capability of my rusted out 1998 1/2 Dodge, 5 speed manual, 24v Cummins dually. All the fluids were changed, HD radiator hoses installed, and it came alive after following the "usual and customary" recommendations on the forums. One Up Offroad traction bars were required to tame the newly induced wheel hop. Oil and filter changes performed every 5K miles since. Last month, at 71K miles, it likewise threw the anticipated PO192 fuel rail pressure sensor code. Not an inexpensive fix, but that has been the only issue in three years. I'll take it.

[@PowerStroke1]

An update at 72K miles: after 16 years, it was time to replace the transmission pan and lower oil pan gasket. The body mounts were due for replacement also. Since there was some seeping detected from the tubing from the low pressure turbo to the horseshoe connection, the cab was pulled to facilitate turbo removal and it would also make the body mount replacement with S & B silicone units easier. The oil cooler was replaced with a Ford OEM and new PPE up pipes installed since "we were there." There was no indication of head gasket issues, so we stopped there. Hopefully, the new body mounts will reduce stresses on the radiator for a few more years. Also replaced was the front hub vacuum pump and switch, restoring control of the 4WD system from the cab. A new brake pressure switch fixed cruise control inconsistency. These issues were easily and relatively inexpensively repaired. An Edge Insight CTS3 monitor was installed to keep a closer eye on things.

[@MrKifischer]

Ive had my 2008 6.4 for 3 years now and its only had some wear and tear parts go out. its got a new ford crate 6.4 in it and most of the periphrerals replaced like alt..ect. has an H&S tuner and delete done. lifetime radiator and some other things. The truck itself has 480,000 plus miles and looks like new and everything still works! Love my 6.4 !!!

[@MidwestMechanics]

The fact that it’s had an engine replaced says it all though.

[@funjunk2835]

​@@MidwestMechanics Still almost half a million is no joke.

[@coreygraham1160]

@@MidwestMechanicscheaper than 80-100,000 for a new one

[@coreygraham1160]

And more power!

[@MidwestMechanics]

@@coreygraham1160 I’d rather buy a new one. Insurance won’t cover the value of the money you put into it if the truck is ever a total loss. People tend to forget that.

[@Freechinesefood561]

I had a 2010 on h&s deleted and 5” exhaust and ran it hard for 2 years with no issues but an oil cooler. Thing was wicked fast and was a great truck. I moved to a 6.0 king ranch 06 and miss my 6.4. But I love my 6.0 because I’m not scared every time I turn it on cus it’s not a 6.4 lol

[@J_Beazy223]

Just a matter of time before you are singing the 6.0 blues

[@graysonsgarage5157]

The 6.4 and the 6.0 do share one thing in common, they're cheaply built and fell apart super easily if not taken care of. I owned a 2004 F350 with the 6.0, and I can say that its biggest weak point to those engines were the factory head bolts as well as the factory EGR cooler (and even the factory HPOP in early models), and if built right (head studs, o-ringed heads, new oil cooler, and EGR delete, etc.), a 6.0 will last for some time. The 6.4 honestly has WAY WORSE problems than a 6.0, but it seems that the main issue with those are the cheap piston design, and the poor turbo seals in the factory compounds, and don't even get me started on the emissions equipment (which is most of the engine's problems). I believe it's more worth it to put a money into building up a 6.0 than a 6.4, and for most (Comi) states, you won't have to deal with as much emissions equipment on a 6.0 than a 6.4. But at the end of the day, the reliability of any engines are about as good as the owner's care for the truck.

[@janamaro5894]

I think, the 6.0 Powerstroke will get fixed and install the bulletproof parts.

[@graysonsgarage5157]

@@janamaro5894 Good, if you have the money to spend on it, go for it. When built right, the 6.0 can potentially last a lifetime. When a 6.4 fails, it's pretty much done for, and isn't any at all rebuildable.

[@gunz_n_bikes171]

Literally same blocks the 6.4 has like an extra 1/8” deck height but they both, if built right and have the right AM parts do run reliably

[@gunz_n_bikes171]

Thats funny mine has been solid laying down over 600 to the wheel and has about 200k on set up, O ring heads, remote oil cooler, water pump good wdi injectors and a kc stage 3 turbo and it does the job and if itll hold up to my abuse so will others you have to have actual experience on an engine to speak on it

[@gunz_n_bikes171]

Thats funny mine has been solid laying down over 600 to the wheel and has about 200k on set up, O ring heads, remote oil cooler, water pump good wdi injectors and a kc stage 3 turbo and it does the job and if itll hold up to my abuse so will others you have to have actual experience on an engine to speak on it

[@EpicCrazyBitch]

Call me crazy but I kind of love my 6.4 with all its flaws lol We’ve had it about 8 years and it’s been my daily driver for the past 2 years. It’s had a few hiccups but I wouldn’t trade it for anything

[@kennycopeland282]

You keep driving that 6.4. I traded my 09 6.4 with 330,000 miles on it. H&S tuned with no problems, couple alternator. I worked it but didn't dog it

[@saraholvera4597]

@@kennycopeland282 I just got it deleted and turned about a week and a half ago. I just ordered a mishimoto radiator and a cold air intake. I’m super excited for the next 100,000 miles 😁

[@coreygraham1160]

@@saraholvera4597 if you haven't already, start using Lucas oil and stabilizer every 5000 miles, and get that cold air intake! It helped me wonders

[@jeremyhauser6193]

​@@saraholvera4597how'd it do for you?

[@pirateatfourty]

i have had mine new since 2008, no issues. as long as you put a water filter in it. gotta remember those are sand cast blocks, and the factory does not clean the blocks very good. i have not replaced a water pump and ihave 220000 miles. the water filter i replace opne a month. use water wetter. keeps the water pump clean and the water wetter keep the air bubbles out of the system, i have replaced the turbos with out removing the cab. i love my trucl it is also a a lariat. best pickup i have ever owned. i baby it. i also have a 75 gal spare fuel tank thats plumbed into the main tank. lots of range. as long as you maintain the water system change your oil like clockwork and change your transmission oil every other year. it is a good truck but mine is garage kept. babied not a ding on it.

[@smokendiesel4958]

Just take the DPF filter off ,keep your normal maintenance and don’t put a 900 hp tune on it then send it 5000 RPM ,and then it’ll stay just fine for 488,000 miles guaranteed

[@smokendiesel4958]

Don’t send it 5000 RPM with a 900 hp tune

[@jordangiesbrecht05]

wat happens at 489000mi?

[@hollycochran526]

​@jordangiesbrecht05 your 6.4 decal falls off

[@untamesquirrel6232]

The best way to mitigate the blowby on the 6.4 is to replace the factory piston rings with a aftermarket piston ring that has a gap less 2nd ring. The truck will never know the 2nd gap less ring is in and it will greatly reduce the blowby. From the factory the rings don't seal and have a larger Gap then they really should. It's recommended to also swap the pistons out for a aftermarket. The product rn being recommended to pre-order/purchase is the speed of air ceramic pistons.. they have a good collab with Dave's Auto Center and Speed Lake Jr.

[@22Aceves]

I used to work in a ford shop as a lube tech and those things were absolutely hated by all the diesel techs. I remember them saying the 6.0 was gravy and the 6.4 was squash lol

[@coltc413]

I owned a 6.4 for 10 years 09 to 19. It was my work truck I maintained the heck out It. It never let me down but when it needed to be repaired it cost big money. If you own one be prepared for large repair bills. That cab is coming off and the parts are $$$$$$

[@samsnow13]

Not looking forward to it when the time comes but it’ll give me an excuse to do a single non VGT while it’s off😂

[@Jarrettc24]

In my opinion a 6.4 is the best bang for buck relatively still modern looking truck. With just a tune and delete it will outrun any other diesel truck. I have a 2009 6.4 cabelas edition and absolutely love it! I have the Mishimoto catch can kit they make for the 6.4 trucks and it takes care of the blow by issue perfectly. I had the Ccv vented to the atmosphere prior to the catch can kit and the light smoke haze at an idle got to be annoying and the oil smell got annoying. After the catch can kit install no more haze at an idle and I don’t have to worry about excessive Ccv pressure causing issues inside the engine anymore. Simply drain the catch can and your good to go for thousands of miles

[@Ready2Ride08]

I currently have the smoke at idle. My mechanic told me that re-routing was good for the motor. I assume I have oil in my intake. Can you post a link to the catch can you ordered? I was going to run mine into the atmosphere... Been having my '10 F-250 Lariat for a year. Not deleted yet, 170k, only problem was ipr valve. After I re-route my CCV, I'm going to delete it. Love this truck!

[@samsnow13]

@@Ready2Ride08 Smeding Diesel sells a billet aluminum one that is a relatively reasonable price with all of the hardware. My truck has been using that one for about 4 months now and it definitely gives me the peace of mind seeing that haze not go into my intake. As for catch cans, mishimoto sells a kit but you can probably get away with a generic kit.

[@GMbowtie350]

Before I wrecked my 325 horse Cummins all it had was a Smarty Jr and a cold air intake and I could consistently walk tuned 6.4s. Don’t get me wrong, they can make some power but to say you’re gonna outrun every other diesel truck is laughable.

[@cottonthe460]

Your on the right path with this video

[@Stanley-u4me]

Good job explaining......I've got my eye on a 2010 xlt scab 6.4 40,000 miles. Old timer selling in Package with 30foot 5th wheel. Please do an update....please.

[@kevinoneill41]

I agree with mostly what you have said. I have the Minny Max and mine is tuned on mild and is set at stock or tow witch is 40 and 60 extra HP with the delete I got 1/3 better MPG as well there is a HP gain there the stock cold air intake had to be changed it just cheoked the engine it would through the chang air filter warning every time I pulled out to pass. So it's got the S&B kit in it. But according to Bill at Bullit Proof theses engines are all ready advanced tuned so this Minne Max just adds to that and that is where the trouble lies. So keep the tune down like set at mild and running on stock or tow. Should produce more than enough to get in trouble. The low boost fuel was set at 3 out of a possible 5 that gave me what I thought was to much black smoke in stop and go trafic. So I tuned it down to 2 if there is any black smoke in stop and go trafic I don't see it. So sharing the road I feel fine. I mean after the embartasment of regen whose going to complain. I mean really. Keep your intake filter clean. Keep your oil change to 5000 or less use Motor Craft filters open the fuel water separator even in between serveses put good diesel coolent in the rad I use Motor master with the additive. I have had to replace the front plate once its not fun. I love ❤ my 08 6.4 F350 if you can get a set of after market valve covers with the extra oil sprayers in them. I'm looking for a set.

[@salmonrealestate8504]

what do you mean when you say you had to change the front plate?

[@janamaro5894]

Right, I called 6.4 Powerstroke a thrown away or garbage engine. Because it was cracked up pipes and pistons causing a catastrophic failure and ect. The idea for the 08-10 6.4 Powerstroke trucks is the Cummins swap aka Fummins. So, the 5R110 transmission is gonna keep it for the Cummins conversion kit. It is very important to get rid of the 08-10 Powerstroke out of the truck and put the Cummins in it. That would solve the problem.

[@samsnow13]

👍🏼I have a 12 valve and a 6.4. Both are great in their own way.

[@doylehargraves9243]

6.4 suk I’ve had them and cummins but the 6.4 will absolutely run finished circles around a cummins

[@ziggy8013]

The best interior and exterior design ford ever put out. Also if you delete it not for racing but for longevity then you have the best super duty ever put out.

[@samsnow13]

Agree!!

[@ictdpowerstroke4591]

Definitely agree

[@MtnTechie]

As a life long diesel mechanic with 17 years experience I would never consider owning a 6.4. But what do I know.....

[@J_Beazy223]

Most people also don't realize is that the 6.0l and 6.4l are 4 bolt main motors. The 7.3l was 6 bolt main. The 6.7l also has 6 bolt main. My 2011 6.7l is at 280k and running like a champ. Deleted tuned and a couple bolt ons. Oil coolers are easier to change. Ford factory Fuel pump is bullet proof. Dual coolant system. Biggest issue is cp4 failure to worry about but there is a better fix for that too. Plus its WAY quieter than the last two diesels ford put out.

[@TALLBOI13]

I have an 08 6.4 fully deleted. I live in Florida so you already know I’m rolling coal. I also have a 2015 6.7 fully delated(yea we don’t play down here) we fully delete everything. I wouldn’t buy a diesel if I couldn’t. My 08 runs circles around my 6.7. While the 6.4 is two times faster, the 6.7 does have a bit more torque. HP translates to speed, Torque translates to pulling power. I recently just bought another 6.4 for $2000 bucks. It was an old plow truck from Massachusetts(DOT) lots of rust but it only needed a starter. Put a new one in and fired right up. 122k original miles, it’s getting deleted in the next two weeks. I change all my filters both oil and fuel every 3k miles and I use stanadyne for my fuel additive every other fill up. You have to fine something that both cleans and lubricates the injectors. I plan to install air dogs on both 6.4s and that will allivoate the pressure front the suspect HPFP. It’s a much cheaper way of ensuring your 6.4 runs well into the 400k mileage. Good luck guys. 6.4 are hands down still the coolest looking and fastest trucks around.

[@jerrylittle8922]

I purchased a 2010 6.4 recently with 48,000 miles on it. Not Deleted. How much would it cost to delete it with a mild Tune?

[@johnniesgarage]

have had my 08 since '13 and put almost 100K on it, only issue has been the cross pipe for the turbos/the up pipe cracking. it's fully stock no delete, and I suspect if it was deleted then I would not melt the pipes. but I have a good mechanic so it's not that bad to get things going.

[@jhonathanvaldez2572]

I have a 6.4 and people who complain about it is probably they didn’t maintenance 👨‍🔧.. I check every little thing in my truck, so the truck isn’t the problem is who owned

[@ictdpowerstroke4591]

Amen ,,your right it’s never the 6.4s fault its the owner they try to break them so they can say there junk,,,love our 6.4 with over 205k miles ,runs strong 💪.your a good owner bro you take care of your 6.4 it will take care of you.

[@coltoncaskey5781]

Why own something if you have to check every little thing about it?

[@jonathanstidham6740]

Mine has 236k on original motor. And still runs great. Mine was also deleted early and has only ever ran a mild tune on it. I did have to put a new built tranny in it and had to replace up pipes and 200k But other than that oil every 5k and fuel filters every 10k. It’s been a good truck over all.

[@cottonthe460]

They can be good trucks if you maintenance them right and on time mine has almost 400,000 and still runs great oil and filters ever 4 to 4500 miles

[@Willie.20]

Is it deleted

[@cottonthe460]

Yea has been since about 100k it get oil and filter every 3500 and fuel filters every 6k but I'm sure that's kinda overkill I do all the maintenance myself

[@kevinoneill41]

You mentioned the work done was properly done. Well i have one if your down pipe is still hanging there it wasnt done right. It needs to be deleted back to the passenger side Y uppipe and your exhaust backpresur sensor needs to be rerouted and that can be a small pain you definitely need to rase the front clip and cab up a good 6 inches you can do that with jacks and blocks. Disconect rad to fronte, steering, shifter at trans, and E brake i believe that should do it. Look it up first they have some good vids out there

[@gfaucett]

Worst engine ever! I purchased the 2010 6.4. I have 157k on it and have replaced the high-pressure fuel twice, the power brake booster, the Oiler cooler, replace EGR cooler gaskets, replaced radiator, and two alternators. Exhaust sensors failed, and cruise control failed three times. Head bolts broke at 156k, and the turbo failed at 154k. I have literally bought this truck twice! I have babied this truck, and no one has worked on it or maintained it but Ford. I am religious about its maintenance. Did not matter. It has stranded us so many times I sold it and not quick enough. Worse yet, buyers, beware, if any major engine work has to be completed on this engine, the cab has to be lifted. That is 8 to 10 hours of labor before they even begin working on the problem. Then another 8-10 hours of labor to put it back on its chassis. The sad part is I love the truck. It does everything I wanted in a diesel, but it cannot be relied upon. If you have one, trust one, it is a fix or repaired daily. How Ford Motor Company, in the clear conscious, could build a truck that requires a cab to be lifted for any major repair is beyond me.

[@SpeedGGonzalez]

You got what you deserved bud. If you wouldn’t have been so lazy, done a little bit of research, you would have known what you do know. The Navistar international produced 6.4 costed Ford millions in lawsuits. But no, you saw the “nice big diesel truck” that you have absolutely no need for and jumped the gun.

[@BS-Outdoors1320]

My brother bought one used with 94k miles on it to pull a triple axle toy hauler. His truck was a 2010 f250 6.4 4x4 4 door long bed that had the manual 6 speed trans. When he bought it I noticed both turbos were brand new on it and it needed a new clutch. The Ford dealer he bought it from agreed to do the labor, he brought the truck and all new parts for them to install. Other than oil changes, fuel filters and just general maintenance he drove that truck up into the 240k miles. It got traded in on a brand 2017 aluminum f350 6.7 4x4 4 door long bed. I drove both pulling the exact same toy hauler from Orlando to Charlotte and back. To me the 6.4 felt like I wasn't towing anything like it had more power. Both were good trucks. We were never left stranded driving either one so I can't complain

[@upnorth6.0]

I will agree, the 6.4's, as far as exterior and interior are pretty nice for there generation. My lariat 07 6.0 doesn't have heated seats so I'm jealous there lol. The 6.0 and 6.4 are probably the worst designed diesels out there, but there fun to drive when tuned and whatnot!

[@samsnow13]

Heated seats have always been a game changer since I moved to Alaska haha. And I totally agree; the 6.0 and 6.4 are very similar in terms of their architecture so they have similar downfalls, but they’re two of the most fun trucks to drive by a long shot because of that. Especially when tuned!

[@7.3powerstroke6]

Strange, dad bought a 06 lariat back when they were brand new, he had heated seats, your truck must of been a base lariat. He got rid of that pos in 2008.

[@Boots67]

Nothing is wrong with the design. It’s just material and parts used. Like for the 6.0 using tty head bolts…which is fine for stock power, but once the egr cooler starts leaking causing coolant to enter your intake-over pressurizing your cylinders=lifting a head/blown head gasket. Same as running more power. If you delete the egr cooler on a 6.0 you’re pretty well off, even with stock head bolts. My buddy has over 400k miles on stock bolts.

[@Boots67]

With the 6.4 I think you’re spot on with the regen causing piston cracking. Delete is key early on. Its the emission devices that gave these motors bad names. Navistar had no time to test with the emission laws being thrown at them.

[@charlesrainey8301]

The design is of course flawed. 4 head bolts per cylinder is for gassers. There's a reason why all diesels, with exception to 6.0 and 6.4, have six bolts per cylinder. That said the bolts are larger diameter on the 6.4. I too will defend the only diesel that came factory with sequential turbos. Mine has 211k so far so good.

[@jacobbayles4848]

I've had mine just over 3yrs. Low to mild tune. Only had issue with the HPFP, no other issue. Been good truck, down sized horse trailer, don't really need it anymore

[@jacobbayles4848]

It has 140k on it

[@samsnow13]

@@jacobbayles4848 man that’s awesome! I love mine even though I hear how “terrible” they are on a daily basis from random people. Maintenance is everything

[@treverboyle2171]

I own a 2008 6.4 with 240,000 my dad owned before I bought it from him only things done was stainless up pipes deleted and tuned and cold air intake and a couple of sensors and I have a actuator starting to act up But the thing I don't like is that the front end components aren't strong enough front has been done twice and had work done in the rear diff besides that stuff love the truck and the power it makes

[@juliovalencia256]

i have a 08 f350 oh man i love it it feels tough and the quality is amazing. they are worth saving them

[@Johnny77mutt]

Prices are crazy even though this video is 2 years old. I got my 08 in 2010 with 28k on it for 28k, a thousand a mile I guess haha. That being said though it was a single cab long box, zf6, 4x4, am/fm radio, roll windows, vinyl floor but that's what I was looking for. Now I have a 2010 same deal but power windows.

[@cyclonus01]

zf6 is super rare. I have a E99 Ford F250 SD 7.3 LB with the ZF6. Never selling it. Would love a 6.0 or 6.4 with the ZF6.

[@J_Beazy223]

Most people don't know that you can stack tune the 6.4l and the 6.0l.

[@jcapen1]

Spot on with your video. I had a short block built to replace the (blown) original motor. I did have upgraded pistons put in it and added a FASS lift pump installed, fully deleted mild tune and it is vented to atmosphere. Always nervous about a breakdown but it has been amazing since the rebuild. Not a cheap fix!

[@kevinoneill41]

Agree with the venting I do have a can. Use 1" id tubing no kinks and all down hill. Who in there right mind would put blow by strate into there turbos😱👍

[@derekbass88]

I have had my 6.4 since 2008. It’s got 193,000 tuned with a spartan running the 275 tune. It’s been fully deleted, head studded, misimoto radiator, cold air intake, and a lift pump. Other than that I think everything is stock unless I am forgetting something. The biggest problem I have found with these trucks is the damn radiator. I have put 4 or 5 of them in. Yea I have a lifetime warranty with the mishimoto but it gets annoying. Other than that I have loved my 6.4 and don’t plan on getting rid of it. I think it honestly depends on how you treat it and if and when you do the full delete. Truck was a completely different truck after I deleted it and the only reason I waited till 100,000 was my warranty.

[@frankmorain2755]

I had to lift the cab off to do the up pipes on it. And kno I think the head gaskets are going on it cuz I have antifreeze blowing out of the top cap. If anybody lives in CT hit me back I need a garage to look at it. Cuz ppl are fucking me with the price to fix it

[@coreygraham1160]

Its all ab the cab lift, look for a private diesel mechanic, theh can get to it w the cab on

[@gregm4441]

I want to delete mine, and bought a used DPF, and cat to clean out so it looks stock, but is empty. The EGR problem has so far stopped me from doing it.

[@OutpostCTD]

Nice video. I like the look of the 6.4 body style also

[@mikemike827]

Great video. I have an 08’ 250 and it’s California stock. 165k and I think I just ruptured my egr cooler. I’d love to delete and time but not possible in Comifornia.

[@andrecoullard4874]

I love my 08 6.4, fully deleted by previous owner I get around 21mpg but have gotten 26mpg, when pulling my 35ft camper I get 18.6mpg all running the stock tune, so no complaints from me about the 6.4, and there's no better satisfaction than rolling coal on the occasional convertible behind me!

[@coreygraham1160]

The best thing about a 6.4 that's duded up is that no one will want to steal it like the seven threes lol

[@samsnow13]

@@coreygraham1160 I’ve had both and gotten way more compliments and attention in the 6.4. Wouldn’t necessarily say that lol

[@franktolman4970]

At least you can get the valve covers off and service injectors and rocker arms without having to move any body panels or jacking the cab.

[@dandable]

Could be the angle but I’m not seeing an EGR cooler. If the EGR was “deleted” it probably stands to reason the DPF is as well which means it’s not stock. The emissions systems on this truck heavily impact its reliability but for the argument that the 6.4 is a great motor has to assume the emissions are intact. The emissions systems are what leads this motor to an early demise.

[@samsnow13]

Yeah it was a joke haha. Trucks been deleted for a long time now

[@kylebye3450]

I bought a 6.4 about a year ago with 72,000 miles on it and I love. I haven't deleted it yet but I want to.

[@coreygraham1160]

Do it quick, it'll break stock. Go and delete the EGR and DPF, put a cold air intake on it with a H&s tune. And make sure to only put Lucas racing oil in it, as well as Lucas oil stabilizer every 5000 miles. The synthetic stuff is junk and will make your engine overheat and destroy itself.

[@flashyfernando3819]

Personally I prefer the 6.4 since it's a fun truck....if you delete the dpf and egr....and take care of fluids....your pretty much bullet proofed....however the 6.0....You can still be in trouble

[@samsnow13]

I agree! There are still a few things that the 6.4 makes me worry about but the dpf and egr delete are gonna save you from about 75% of the problems these have.

[@ictdpowerstroke4591]

@@samsnow13 yeah ours got 205,769miles on it basically over 205k miles and it never given us one issue

[@jerrylittle8922]

What does it cost now days to delete a 6.4. ? Mild tuned.

[@ItsTheJayCrew]

I might be getting a 2008 f250 with 6.4L has 250k miles and It is Certified used with Ford. It’s 14k. Think it will be worth it, super clean etc, also custom Semi truck exhaust pipes on top

[@coreygraham1160]

Delete egr dpf and make sure you put good lucas oil and stabalizer every 5,000. She'll last

[@jameshackman5345]

I don’t care what people think about the 6.4L. I love the style of the 6.4L and it sounds awesome. Plus who doesn’t like factory compound turbos?

[@robertdavis6708]

Sam is sitting there talking about his 6.4 waiting on a tow truck. He ain't sh#$tting me.

[@samsnow13]

Ahhhh you got me😂😂😂

[@CarlosOrmsby-r5k]

I'm looking to buy one for $2200 but it blows smoke when idling. I'm thinking it's the turbo seal? Would anyone know why it throws smoke when idling or when I stop accelerating?

[@CR500R]

The 2008-2010 Superduty front end is hard to look at. However, the upgraded interior is nice.

[@samsnow13]

I can see what you’re saying. It’s always a surprise to people when they see the interior of my truck because they’re not expecting that from an older Ford. It’s held up very well too in terms of quality. And nothing will ever beat an OBS 7.3 front end but that’s just me personally.

[@patrickbriggs1883]

I like the look. The red super duty’s especially have a great look

[@ironjohn5914]

@@patrickbriggs1883 my 2008 f450 is red 👍

[@ourv9603]

It was So bad, FORD fired IH who built the 6.4L for FORD & then FORD designed & produced their own 6.7L which is still in production today. Nuff Said. !

[@samsnow13]

🫡

[@leslieking3974]

Good review. I still have the egr cooler and dpf as it’s illegal to rid them here. Run good since I bought used 4 yrs ago. It’s a work horse helping my building project and occasional road trip. Right now it has the p0088 cel code, it clears off by itself after another diesel tank, odd.

[@josegpazc]

Mpg ? Good ? Mine just started to do the regen too often and I don’t know what to do and is giving me 9 miles per gallon

[@andylowry5569]

If im not mistaken p0088 maybe the high pressure fuel pump going out. I'd have it read just to see what exactly it is. Or Google it. Make sure your water separated is drained. Fuel filters etc

[@roofermarc1]

High pressure fuel pump pressure is to high. P0088 death code.

[@leslieking3974]

@@josegpazc just saw the msg. Funny I lost my truck (stolen and burnt), stored in a container. Mpg was about 14 miles as I drove mostly on freeway. The p0088 code and cel never really hurt my going around until it’s stolen and idiot burnt the truck.

[@coreygraham1160]

It's either the high-pressure fuel pump, or the fuel cooler. I had a fuel cooler issue and it is a very cheap fix.

[@makeithappen8473]

People were running the spartan tuners at 350 over stock and melting pistons.

[@all2kx]

Someone is selling one for 5k 08 but it’s smoking head and loosing power they mentioned is it a go or no body wise look clean

[@nicodemvs3015]

Fantastic video I appreciate you giving your honest thoughts on everything really helps understanding where you're coming from and reasons why. Contractor I do a lot of work with is getting ready to sell his 08 that has 112,000 miles on it Lariat it's deleted they only accident it's ever been in he hit a elk but it just destroyed the front bumper and the guts fried the turbo but insurance paid for a whole new fuel system and turbo and he has a custom bumper on it now very light tune. I have first dibs because we do a lot of work together and my price would be $7,500 with a bunch of extras, worth it?

[@samsnow13]

I bought mine with 116k on it so I think I can give you a pretty good idea since it was probably at a similar stage in life. I would say that’s a steal and would absolutely go for it because these trucks do still go for the high teen and low 20s in terms of pricing so 7.5 is fantastic. As long as the repair work was done properly, then I don’t see a reason not to based off of what you’ve told me. Of course, use good judgement and stuff like that but I would definitely entertain it.

[@nicodemvs3015]

@samsnow13 Awesome! Thank you, worst case down the road I'll swap the engine for a Cummins.

[@hvac-rtechco815]

Having a new block built for my truck gonna use the flang sleeves and then some better pistons. Can't wait to get her back I cracked pistons 7 and 8 right in half smh 14 grand later.

[@samsnow13]

In the process of selling mine actually. Nothing wrong with it at all but I’m just ready to move on. Threw a new radiator in it in November last year and after seeing how expensive that was I didn’t want to stick around to find out how pricey a real problem would be. Sorry to hear you cracked some pistons but at least you’ll be getting it back as “bulletproof” as possible! What pistons did you end up going with?

[@hvac-rtechco815]

@@samsnow13 they are a custom de lipped piston that a local diesel shop in my town designed specifically for the 6.4 they have done quite a few 6.4s the owner of this shop has 2 of them him self and he loves them he's fully built his as well and said since then he's never had a major failure since and sees them going beyond 300k miles on the rebuilt motor.

[@hvac-rtechco815]

@@samsnow13 new pistons better valve springs and pushrods aluminum radiator arp hardware O ring heads billit oil pump and machineed block with the flang sleeves same style they use in semi trucks.

[@fishface5273]

all you got to do is cut all the bullshit off of it. Im still driving my 2008 2nd engine because i put a industrial injection max HPFP on it. @ 60 psi of boost blew off the injector tips

[@samsnow13]

That’s crazy dude! 60 psi is nuts

[@tinolul]

I bought my 6.4 a few months ago and the EGR valve is throwing a code, the DPF is throwing a code. I'm having a hard time deciding between doing the repairs myself or just spending the money and taking it to a shop

[@samsnow13]

Be repairs do you mean deleting it or just fixing the egr and dpf?

[@tinolul]

@@samsnow13 just fixing the dpf and egr. I couldn't afford any delete kits right now. Idk how big of a deal it is since the truck is running fine and I have pretty decent exhaust fumes coming out of the tail pipe

[@samsnow13]

@@tinolul yeah it’s hard to say without seeing what the codes are man

[@MrC9Oh3]

I have a 6.4 with 620,000 on it, all factory, i change the oil every 50k and thats it.

[@cyclonus01]

unicorn.

[@MrC9Oh3]

@cyclonus01 no my buddy has a 6.4 with a little over 800k on it, everything is original on it

[@truckerbj]

I just bought a 08 6.4 for just under 10k has 405k miles deleted. Was used for RV transport. Got a 2 year warranty extra but just going to use it to pull our camper for a few years.

[@samsnow13]

Dang dude 405k? That’s insane but good for you! Hope she works out for ya

[@truckerbj]

@@samsnow13 yeah me too also figured with the miles the major issues would be taken care of.

[@samsnow13]

@@truckerbj totally. Just shows that deleting them and proper maintenance goes a long way

[@marktwine1833]

How's she running now a year later?

[@truckerbj]

@@marktwine1833 so so I want to either rebuild or put a lower mileage engine in.

[@bthorn5035]

"The lower the miles before delete, the better".... I just picked up a super clean 6.4 with 116,000 miles. Is that low or high?

[@samsnow13]

For a delete? I would say it’s still in a good range if it’s super clean and well maintained. It’s kind of a toss up depending on year and maintenance

[@devin3156]

If you keep them stock, fully delete them, and maintain them properly they will be just fine.

[@justinwoodward5588]

I just got a 2008 f450. I just use it to pull my 5th wheel. I don’t like to run it hard. Can someone tell me a good rpm to pull it to.

[@charlotte62735]

My dads 6.4 makes over a1,000 hp

[@johnthompson5466]

My dad works for Microsoft

[@locustvalleyfarms7241]

Nice truck man. Mine has 127k on it. Hasn’t had any trouble. Deleted and it stays on stage 1 tow tune. Do you still have yours??

[@samsnow13]

Thanks man, and no I actually sold it last year. Got tired of paying for diesel haha

[@locustvalleyfarms7241]

@@samsnow13 Oh. Yeah I feel you. I plan on putting a 12v Cummins In an 450 king ranch in a few months. Once I finish that project my 6.4 will be sold. I love the 12v so why not put it in the best body style ever? (The 6.4 body)

[@twojacksonestand]

I just bought one about 8 months ago and I love it so far, it's deleted etc I also bought a coolant filter kit as I was told there can be residual casting sand in the block etc.. can anybody touch on that?

[@d3m0niccity]

How much does deleting the truck cost im thinking about 1 in a year or 6 months plan on leaving the motor stock in terms of power wise maybe some wheels and a lift tho

[@samsnow13]

I would assume that it would cost around $1500-$2000 IF you can even get the parts anymore. It’s easier just to find one that’s already deleted than to try and get the right parts together. It’ll be a hell of a time trying to find a tuner that will allow delete tunes with all the EPA crackdown stuff.

[@jerrylittle8922]

@@samsnow13 Hey bud, I bought 6.4 with very low miles. 48k. Everything is stock as of now. I'm loosing coolant . Not much but I can't find the leak. Oil level is staying the same. I'm scared of it.

[@samsnow13]

@@jerrylittle8922 check the drivers side corner of the radiator where the metal meets the plastic. I just replaced mine a month or so ago because of the same issue. That’s the most common spot for leaks to show up. Can you see a general area where it’s leaking?

[@richardjeun]

Why delete when you can get DPF cleaned frequently and stay legal?

[@samsnow13]

Cause the 6.4 DPF is trash so why deal with it? Plus I live in a place where there’s no emissions laws; obviously do it at your own discretion.

[@jackturner6036]

I’ve only had fuel pump, alternator and water in fuel problems it ran super strong

[@harry2057]

My Superduty is pretty close to yours generatio/feature-wise. Except, instead of all those convenient switches under the climate control on the dash, mine just has a coin holder.... Other options I wish I had are the 2nd alternator and the heavy duty heater option.... Of course, I got mine used.... What accessories do you power with the switches? Do you find the added alternator or heater useful in Alaska (if you have them)?

[@samsnow13]

I only use the AUX 1 switch on the panel for a 30” light bar but it’s super handy and could be useful for a lot of other future things I do to it but I like having the option. I got super lucky with the interior being completely decked out for an ‘08 since I bought it used as well. She fires right up no matter how cold it is and always blows hot. I love it dude.

[@mikemike827]

I used mine to power my airbag system and it has wireless remote to adjust psi.

[@J_Beazy223]

Its not the 6.4l is a poorly made engine. Its more the components that accompany the engine which are more likely to fail and create other issues from those that lead to taking out the engine. Hot tunes don't help an already inferior component.

[@lilfairycupcake]

the entire emissions control system is the basis of 90% percent of the problems.

[@kevinvine7061]

Very powerful when running

[@maybelive765]

Hey man, Hypothetically, if you could find a cheap 6.4 and a cheap lariat roller, is it worth paying a mechanic to rebuild the engine with forged pistons and studs and then reassembling the whole thing? found an '08 lariat with a cracked piston selling for 2,500CAD and a 6.4lt for 4,000CAD. Cheap build??? Possible to do it yourself??

[@samsnow13]

Definitely not going to be super cheap but it’ll definitely be cheaper than buying a running one and at least you’ll know the motor is solid👌🏼

[@maybelive765]

@@samsnow13 my thoughts exactly. I wanna buy one of these over the other diesels just because they dont go for 35K for a rotted out shell and a leaking engine! Eventually it will be my sailboat/race car hauler.

[@samsnow13]

@@maybelive765 it’s definitely nice to capitalize on the fact that people are afraid of them😂you can get a super great truck for cheap

[@jesse2534]

I’m about to Buy A 2008 F-350 6.4 work truck with only 75,000 on it do you think it will be worth it

[@samsnow13]

The mileage is great for that year which is a good start. Is it deleted? Do you know the maintenance history and issues it’s had in the past? How does it sound at idle and during acceleration? Like I said in this video, a 6.4 is as good as it’s maintenance history and previous ownership. If it checks all of the boxes you are looking for, then I would say go for it! Just be wary of the turbos and fuel system off the bat. I would immediately do both fuel filters on it and and oil change of course. Delete it asap if it hasn’t been already. Put a CCV on it to stop the recirculation of crank case vapor and to allow for pressure to be released due to blow by. I still love mine and people will always say how great it looks or how mean it sounds, but don’t compromise if it has a major problem or something feels off. Trust your gut man!

[@ictdpowerstroke4591]

I love my 2009 f-250 6.4,,,it’s got over 206k miles and I’m going to be towing 15,500lbs this week ,,NOT A SINGLE ISSUE,,It’s gong on its 8th year of my ownership,,just dpf and egr deletes are all you need to do for a 6.4,,if you want a 6.4 to be even more reliable go the extra mile and get a cold air intake,,over all it all should cost a total of 1,000$ to delete the egr and dpf and buy the cold air intake plus a tuner it’s about 1000$ all together,,it will last at LEAST 268k miles with little to no issues,,small issues if anything at all,,mine is at 206k with no issues and I hope to get to 225k with no issues,,AMERICAN

[@stacimccarter531]

My 08 f450 cracked a piston at 60k that was after turbos and down pipes.

[@jerrylittle8922]

What does it cost now to delete the 6.4?

[@samsnow13]

It’ll probably end up running you about $1500 at the very least that is IF you can find the parts and tuner for it. H&S tuners are available for about $800 but who knows where they came from and all of the websites are pretty sketchy these days. It would probably be easier to find one already deleted than to do it yourself. I could be wrong though.

[@jhonathanvaldez2572]

I paid 9,000 2008 6.4.. 119,000 miles .. only issue was the up pipe they owner got tired of it 😂😂

[@samsnow13]

That’s a steal right there!

[@jhonathanvaldez2572]

The good thing isn’t delete it.. everything is original

[@samsnow13]

@@jhonathanvaldez2572 that’s impressive dude👍🏼

[@seanbeste9989]

How many miles do you have on it now?

[@samsnow13]

Just rolled over 125k a few days ago

[@rossbegay6319]

How many miles u have on ittoday

[@samsnow13]

Like 132k

[@gvs5318]

bought a stock 08, 165K miles, so far so good

[@samsnow13]

Congrats! Like I said maintenance is key. Oil and fuel filters are most important

[@funjunk2835]

It's not just tuned 6.4s that fail catestrophically lol.

[@SuperDuty250]

I want a 2010 f450 but im scared itll fail me lol. I dont want it deleted because I dont want to get fined. But I dont want a 2011 or newer because I dont feel like adding def fluid..does anyone have any knowledge about the 2010 6.4? Is it better than the 08 or 09?

[@samsnow13]

The ‘10 is regarded as being the “most reliable” of the bunch but it’s all a crapshoot honestly.

[@SuperDuty250]

@@samsnow13 damn man😮‍💨

[@thefistfullofteeth]

Where did you find a dpf delete tune for your cts tuner?

[@samsnow13]

It’s just a CTS3 monitor, not a tuner. It’s pretty hard to find delete tunes anymore that are pre made and not custom. H&S still has them but they’ll set you back $800 bucks. Due to the EPA cracking down on deleted trucks in recent years companies like SCT, Bullydog, and Spartan no longer make delete tunes for any truck.

[@wileyyonce2936]

@@samsnow13 what delete do you have with the monitor?

[@samsnow13]

@@wileyyonce2936 H&S

[@wileyyonce2936]

@@samsnow13 I thought the h&s plugged into the ob2 and the cts3 how dose that work?

[@samsnow13]

@@wileyyonce2936 I run the cts to monitor full time cause the H&S screen is garbage in comparison. I just load up a tune with the H&S if I want to change it and plug my cts back in for monitoring

[@aj06bolt12r]

How many radiators has it had?

[@samsnow13]

Funny you brought that up haha. It’s in the shop right now getting a new one under warranty. That is the original one in the video though. It’s going to be on its second

[@aj06bolt12r]

@@samsnow13 Thats not bad at all, they were prone to failure.. How do you still have warranty?

[@samsnow13]

@@aj06bolt12r aftermarket warranty. I keep it under warranty because of the sole fact that it’s a 6.4😂

[@aj06bolt12r]

@@samsnow13 Interesting. I hope they dont try to screw you over and wiggle out of everything. That is the rumor with aftermarket insurance outfits.

[@samsnow13]

@@aj06bolt12r oh yeah I’m ready for them to make excuses but the warranty is up in 6k miles so if they don’t want to pay to fix stuff, I’ll drop them once my term is done.

[@brhodes1777]

Looking at 2008 6.4 with 195,000 for $16k that is in good shape?

[@samsnow13]

It’s hard to say without seeing it in person or anything. 195k miles for 16k is a little steep to me. I think you could probably find a lower mile clean truck for about the same price maybe 1-2k more.

[@stevemino142]

The 6.4 powerstroke is better than the 6.0 litre was by far...but I've had the best service with the Isuzu gm duramax 6.6 litre

[@enchantkeymike8170]

My in-laws sold me a 2010 F250 king ranch for a 1000 dollars, 180,000 I barely drive it,but couldn't pass up the deal

[@samsnow13]

What a steal!! Super jealous dude especially cause it’s a King Ranch. Those are beauties

[@enchantkeymike8170]

@@samsnow13 thanks man, I enjoy it but I change the oil pretty frequently due to living in California and it's not deleted.

[@samsnow13]

@@enchantkeymike8170 I’m down in Cali right now and it’s crazy how few 6.4’s I see compared to states where you can do deletes. You’re one of the lucky ones for sure

[@braddurham3015]

Too bad you have to run it in the salt love the truck but the down fall is you can’t rebuild the connecting rods they are metal to metal no brass bushings awesome truck

[@samsnow13]

Thanks dude! I’ve wanted one since I was 16 and I first really learned about them so I’m pretty stoked with how it turned out too. Just leveled it last week so it’s sitting right now too. And yeah Alaska is terrible on vehicles and the factory rust protection undercoating only does so much. I wash it once a week in the winter to slow it down as best I can though. Gonna get it repainted once I move out of state in a few years and into a state that doesn’t get snow😂plus an overhaul on the motor at 150k most likely depending on how it’s running by then. So far so good!

[@braddurham3015]

@@samsnow13 yeah I would love to have 6.4 I think it is a bad ass motor have a 07 6.0 standard cab shorty and a 7.3 long bed 4 door dulley

[@samsnow13]

@@braddurham3015 yeah man I don’t know if you’ve ever driven one but they pull like crazy. Especially deleted and tuned. And man a 6.4 would complete that setup! I have a 97 CCLB 7.3 and I love it just as much as my 6.4. Never had a 6.0 though… but I’ve driven a few and they’re nasty

[@nativeoutdoors1780]

@@samsnow13 I would look into getting some comsoline products undercoat, that stuff does great if you prep and put a rust convertor on and then seal it with the rp342 or whatever cosmoline calls it

[@howboutsomecoal]

Whachu want duromax

[@shiloh5199]

I have an 07 F350 6.0l DRW, I PURCHASED at 80k on it but it had a brand new factory long block. My 6.0l has been partially bullproofing and c Xdp coolant filtration. Love my dually

[@luckycharmcultleader2287]

My dads 6.4 just hit 80k miles on the motor and nothing wrong