Sir Bradley Wiggins on moving Forward. The Forward w/Lance Armstrong

[@ChristopherSterwerf]

I'm a 47 year old, male survivor of childhood sexual abuse. I am an advocate and activist for victims and I work to create laws in Ohio to help protect children from abuse. There is an enormous amount of strength in coming forward Sir Wiggins. Your example is going to inspire and encourage thousands of other men to find their strength to come forward. Thank you for discussing the topic. What happened to you is not your fault. You just made the world a better place. Thank you!

[@0ut0fafricaa]

Calling Wiggins an alcoholic as has always struck me as shortsighted because he is a victim of abuse and alcoholism is a trauma response. Next step…doping. 🦵🏻

[@FTA38yearfreeride]

@@ChristopherSterwerf ofcourse is not his fault, that is a stupid thing to say , how can something like that ever be some ones fault ???

[@ChristopherSterwerf]

@@FTA38yearfreeride because, often, survivors of childhood sexual abuse believe it's their fault and they hold on to the shame inflicted by the abuser. Often, the abuser tells them as children that it's their fault. Some of the most powerful words a survivor can hear is that it wasn't their fault. Sometimes they need to hear it many times until they accept that truth themselves. Look up trauma informed care on KZbin or the internet for more information as to why it is so important. Thanks for your comment.

[@ChristopherSterwerf]

@@FTA38yearfreeride because, often, survivors of childhood sexual abuse believe that the are at fault because of the shame inflicted upon them by their abuser. Often, the abuser tells the victim child over and over that it is their fault. Some of the most powerful words a survivor can hear is that it is not their fault. It can take many times of hearing it before it sinks in and becomes their new truth. Do a search for trauma informed care to learn more. Thank you for your comment.

[@ChristopherSterwerf]

@dirkvilyn6239 because, often, survivors of childhood sexual abuse believe that the are at fault because of the shame inflicted upon them by their abuser. Often, the abuser tells the victim child over and over that it is their fault. Some of the most powerful words a survivor can hear is that it is not their fault. It can take many times of hearing it before it sinks in and becomes their new truth. Do a search for traumu informed care to learn more. Thank you for your comment.

[@KristinaLouise]

Lance creating space and being authentic, human, raw -- to discuss some sensitive topics with Sir Bradley -- out of genuine concern. ❤

[@geordiedownundernz8116]

I’ve been waiting for this podcast for a while so looking forward to it

[@dnch]

Lances only genuine concern was always his own ass

[@82vitt]

@@dnch Exactly. Psychopaths have no genuine concern for others, only looking for their own interests.

[@stiofan.oconchubhair]

I read Lance's books It's Not About The Bike: My Journey Back to Life and My Comeback: Up Close and Personal (I cycle a bit) and was totally pissed off finding out that it's not about the bike but the EPO .. If he had just not come back however apparently he is a self absorbent asshole and a terrible team mate which makes sense really ..

[@ericjensen3639]

@@stiofan.oconchubhair I am by NO means a Lance fanboy, but WTF does this have to do with this podcast.

[@hilltop1972]

Please make Bradley a permanent part of the team!

[@michelestuurman9653]

Totally agree

[@stephencollinson2334]

Great idea! He fits in so well and is such a funny guy.

[@johnnyhanel]

at least during the tour like he referenced

[@4879daniel]

Yeah, he needs the money

[@buffalobilly6046]

Anybody who insists on being called “Sir” because he has a stupid Brit title is a bigger doushe than Lance. And anybody that LOVES Aspen is just a self absorbed celebrity wanting to be “elite” . The Hollywood crowd has RUINED Aspen. If you live in Colorado you know exactly what I mean

[@iDuckman]

Such a *wonderful* conversation. Sir Bradley, I wish you all the best. Lance, you are obviously a good and valuable friend. Thank you for sharing.

[@ericherrera123]

Incredible! One of the best podcasts I've listened to in a long time! Great job, Lance! Love that you're gonna look after your friend! We all need more of that🙏🏽

[@scottfast03]

Awesome one, Lance. You’re both legends. Be well, Sir Bradley. Take care of yourself. I also have to say, well done Lance. I’ve seen hundreds of videos and when Lance has a friend in need man he is loyal and the first one there to support. That’s incredible. You’re doing well, LA.

[@michaelrobinson5268]

Bradley is a legend. One is infamous for cheating. But they both have incredible insight into cycling.

[@robertlund5694]

​@@michaelrobinson5268in lances era you had to dope or you got blown into the weeds, seems you do not have much of an insight into pro continental cycling of the 80's and 90's.

[@OnlineXplorers]

He has done the same for Jan. Regardless of what you think of Lance, you cannot doubt his loyalty to his friends

[@michaelrobinson5268]

@@OnlineXplorers I agree. You also cannot forget how he destroyed people’s lives around him when he was competing. No doubt he loves those close to him and it’s great that he is helping Jan and Sir Bradley. Those people need a lift up. They didn’t leave cycling with the same financial security Lance did.

[@johncumming6327]

@@michaelrobinson5268 How exactly did he destroy their lives. Are they living on the streets or what?

[@jensoehler8300]

If you look at Ullrich, Armstrong and Wiggins, you really see how determined and successfull traumas can make you, but they catch up, eventuall, very candid and honest conversation👍

[@tld14]

Every super hero’s story involves father trauma!

[@glennoc8585]

As I've matured interactions and experiences have got me to a place where i know that most people endure some level of suffering psychologically or physiologically or both. This life adventure is so random even with the best laid plans.

[@john98538]

Two legends, this was probably the best KZbin interview I've seen. My respect for both riders have increased by multiple. Thanks guys genuinely

[@amc5966]

One of the most sincere conversations between two men with similar paths I've ever listened to. Incredibly powerful.

[@adriancaldwell]

They’re still cheats

[@jacquesdemolay5171]

Fifteen years ago or so, I never could've imagined a sit-down or a conversation like this between these two. What a wild ride it's been-and they've taken us along with them. The journey continues.

[@artistnigelspencerandrew5147]

On that Sunday afternoon in 2012...My 6 year old had been struggling on stabilisers...He watched Bradley win that Tour and demanded I remove them...That evening he rode a bike unaided.....Bradley & Lance...A great interview

[@massimocaradonna3857]

Wow deep. Lance I'm impressed at your level of what seems genuine concern. Hope he comes out on top of this like the true champ he is. And maybe a spot on the wedu team

[@simonwillett2018]

Two great people having a great talk, got alot from it thankyou. Keep on keeping on

[@adriansmith5446]

I grew up thinking we(UK) would never win the tour. Then 2012 happened. I was lucky enough to be roadside at a few stages and, of course, made the journey to Paris for that very, very special day. I've got loads of memories from that day but when Wiggo mentioned the parade lap, with his lad on the little yellow bike, it made me smile now as it did when I watched them that day. Thanks for the memories, champ!

[@nelsonhibbert5267]

"We" didn't. He did.

[@femimacaulay4547]

I found myself listening intently to this conversation and was completely riveted. Lance, you spoke like a down to earth human being which in turn allowed Bradley to open up. Anyone will feel a real connection to both of you. The topics you touched on, particularly the impact of trauma and importance of getting help is vital. Coming from both of you who have reached such dizzying heights and gone through periods of deep despair it is even more impactful. Good job and thank you.

[@BLatorre]

This Pod was unexpectedly amazing! Wow, thank you for doing this LA, I have a new found respect for not just Sir Bradley Wiggins but the sport in general. ✊🏼

[@alistairmacfadyen9365]

Bradley, I just wish I could give you a hug mate, I am a former veteran, have many of the issues that you have gone through, your a great man, and all these bad things that have happened to you as well as me, makes you stronger and a better human being. Love your family and respect your friend and children. This has been a great video, thank you Lance and Bradley

[@tarahcole7784]

Seeing Lance show a more personal side of himself is really nice. No one likes to dwell in the past but learning his past struggles makes him more relatable and interesting. And yes, make Wiggins permanent for the Tour! He's well loved and it'll put him in the right direction for a path forward.

[@fryuppe]

Bravo, Lance and Bradley: an extraordinary encounter and episode. British stoicism meets American full disclosure therapy culture. I am not sure if that is such a comfortable fit: however, thank you so much for this riveting and illuminating coda to Sir Bradley's wonderful residency on THEMOVE Podcast.

[@benedictearlson9044]

Good observation, yeah you can't be sure the same therapy which is working for Armstrong would work for Wiggins but certainly he's right, we don't really have the skills to deal with trauma alone, that's why trauma exists. It was a bit odd in that Bradley starts by saying he's 'better' and in a good place and Lance basically says, no you're not fixed you need help. Both may be true, you can get by being stoic but maybe you're never really content with issues always below the surface.

[@joeld2343]

These two men have truly grown up. Lance inspired me back in the day for which I am eternally grateful.

[@olljum]

I’ve seen hundreds of videos of Lance - never seen him like in this video with Sir Wiggo.

[@scottfast03]

Totally agree.

[@glennoc8585]

Haha... he's being on his best behaviour as Brad looks like he'd taje his arms off. Only joking they've hit it off.

[@daveansell2418]

Same he is human!

[@tarahcole7784]

This is the best version of Lance!

[@scottfast03]

@@tarahcole7784 I’ll second that!!

[@Boldnessworx]

One of the best videos I've watched in a long time, just letting it all out

[@mruizsr]

Wow! What an interview! Thank you so much for being transparent. It's not easy by any means. You're amazing, Sir Wiggins!

[@sarahdisco-dolly1150]

Lance I have been a critic of you, but thanks for this, Brad gave us so much joy in the UK, the Olympic TT was an amazing day and Brad was perfect. a day I will never forget.

[@GregFredrickson]

Lance you are a mentor simply by people knowing your mess and working through it. Where this conversation went was raw and eye opening, but how you have come along side these retired pros to help live better lives and heal from our past pain. I say we do this all to provide a better life for our kids. I’m a bigger fan now than 1999.

[@stuartpelan7149]

Genuinely one of the best sports interviews I’ve ever seen. Love how it comes across how much Lance cares for Sir Bradley and love Sir Bradley’s honesty, well, both their honestly really. Sir Bradley is fascinating, I would love to see him on the team regularly. His cycling knowledge is incredible 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

[@leedorney]

Very brave of Lance and Brad to put this out, such a personal aspect/s - much respect 🙏 - you gallant people 💪

[@JonoGT0]

This whole thing with Wiggins and Armstrong has been so amazing to watch for the last few weeks. Props guys . Stay strong . Forever a fan of you both !!

[@veloman59]

Absolutely loved this program - all of their challenges laid bare before us all - it takes courage to do this. I applaud Bradley and Lance.

[@DudeEnglish]

Lance was such a brilliant cyclist!!!! He and Laurent Fignon were my all time favourite cyclists!

[@stanleyturrentine9673]

This took a lot of courage sir Bradley best wishes feel better!

[@stiofan.oconchubhair]

sir ? 😂

[@philhorne3293]

One of the healthiest conversations I think I've every heard. Good to see this! A person that has faced trauma and controversy needs to figure out how to move forward. Needing help is typical. Hard to do solo especially for folks used to doing things on their own.

[@johnnyhanel]

wow. what a great conversation.

[@jamesbancroft2418]

Chapeau! Sir Brad and Lance. Honest, real, caring conversation between two blokes, on topics that blokes don't often talk about. This is real. Well done.

[@kalaish6424]

This podcast is an unexpected demonstration of the very best that humans can be. Honest, humble, vulnerable, open, empathetic and compassionate. What an inspiring conversation, Thank you 👏🙏

[@dankochanek8056]

Me and my wife were at that tour in 2012. It was special. It was our honeymoon. Lance, thanks for this one. Sir Mr. Wiggins seems like a great person. This one was really good!!

[@ericmackintosh5933]

What a beautiful conversation- thank you both for being vulnerable and open. It’s encouraging for the rest of us

[@benoitvuillermoz5062]

Such a great and critical discussion about mental health and well being. So essential to show to as many people as possible. That’s what the world needs right now! Thank you for being open and vulnerable 🙏

[@samfootie]

This is a great conversation. Thanks to you both and all the people involved. I've had a TON of trauma, I'm 34, and a lot of this stuff resonates and helps.

[@jacksimpson3189]

Very insightful and honest, best interview of Brad I've seen full stop. Please make him a permanent fixture Lance ❤👊🏻

[@LordTanus1]

Best episode yet, Lance it is at his best talking to people and not about events.

[@apmul1889]

Excellent interview by two high quality people.

[@kiely4561]

I really like that Lance leaned in as a shoulder for wiggo during a tough time in his life, he understands more than most that when the proverbial shit hits the fan the people who reach out are the people worth having around.

[@zrunner4311]

This interview will never be bettered. An unreal watch. Well done all concerned 👏🏽

[@DontTestTheX]

Wow. This really was something special. Intriguing, interesting and also very inspiring.

[@puckloki873]

I've been fucking waiting for this. I think many men (and people) can relate here. I suffer quietly with shame and hopelessness for reasons not to do with SA. But the patterns are so familiar. Thank you gents.

[@harrybrooks03]

Oh, Brad. Like many Brits my age, I utterly adore you. I hope you can find joy and peace mate. Much love x

[@tonydaniels404]

Lance has grown old, wise and just a man. He wears this identity very well, it looks good on him. Brad, you remind me of my son, listen to Lance, you need to grow to resolve your inner conflicts, let Lance help, he really wants to. I hope you come out the other side one day, like Lance has, he’s more of a legend the guy he has become than he ever was in his cycling career.

[@finkmj53]

Excellent job and thanks to Sir Bradley Wiggins for your openness!

[@stuartprice9683]

That was such a great podcast, hope to see wiggo for the three weeks next year, two legends being honest and open . Thanks to both

[@4StringStudio]

Great week with Sir Wiggo! More please

[@1xRacer]

Wiggins will always be my hero, inspired me into cycling, which changed my life and partly saved it. I'll never forget 2012!

[@DC-uf6ve]

I felt the same, but him hanging out with people like this cheapens the memories for me.

[@IHoMyPo]

Finally got around to watching this. Lance, you and tbe group, which includes Sir Bradly, have a good thing going. Keep it UP, baby! Thanks much.

[@Duell-850R]

Another great discussion. Love the genuine honesty. Thanks Lance and Bradley. I wish you all the best. Life isn't easy, we all have our path to walk in life.

[@mattpujol4787]

Great job on The Move and thank you two so much for this interview. It is was moving to hear Lance share his therapy experiences...not just moving, it was powerful. I sincerely hope Sir Bradley finds his safe space to work on stuff. He's a good guy and deserves clarity and some peace. I, on the other hand, will be checking my mental health benefit on Monday.

[@rjgriffiths1]

You guys are good for each other. Have loved listening in to this years banter. Roll on next year ❤

[@seancary4567]

This conversation is absolutely brilliant. Thank you for being so raw and open. Two champions who have faced more than most in life and have achieved more than most telling their stories openly. Inspiring

[@Marlin1104]

Thanks Lance. The podcast touched me as well as thousands others I’m sure. I’m proud that your jersey is hanging on my wall. I hope to shake your hand one day.

[@andykramer4707]

Outstanding interview. I appreciate the personal candor from both of you. It is inspiring.

[@kevinosborne8071]

That was a very humbling episode, I hope Brad gets the help he needs and deserves. Lance, says a lot for someone like Brad to openly speak out to with all that’s been going on. Chapeau

[@45madone]

Humbling watching 2 hero's of mine being so open and honest

[@drewrestrepo]

two true humans that have gone through some real stuff

[@bestg55555]

Always forward, never straight, love this conversation, worth watching and not just listening!

[@ScottRSmith1964]

this was absolutely awesome! Thank you Lance and Sir Wiggins!

[@greggm206]

man this was a great interview. So glad Wiggo stopped by Aspen for Tour coverage and also sharing this story. Dude is a fighter, and a winner - and will come out stronger.

[@robertpaul6576]

Sir Bradley Wiggins. Total legend and a great human being. Thanks for inviting him over and conducting this honest and heartfelt interview. Myself and thousands of others wish him all the best.

[@brynsreynoldsful]

Thank you for looking out for Brad; he deserves it.

[@petecampbell8697]

This is some powerful stuff. As someone who has been battling his demons over the past few years I can honestly say this conversation has helped me figure some things out myself. Had the fortune to meet Sir Brad a day or two prior to London 2012 with my kids when the team were on a recon ride. Still have the autographed flag and my kids have a lifelong memory. Nothing but admiration for this guy and kudos for being so open. Wishing him better fortune going forward 👊

[@DJModsChannel]

this. was. awesome. Wiggins the man is raw and brilliant! Good luck buddy on your new journey!

[@slingy81]

Superb conversation, beautiful seeing the mature and compassionate side of Lance, reaching into Wiggo/Jan and im sure others, with some of the balm he has doubtless needed for the pain, regret, inner turmoil and suffering he has experienced himself.

[@Charzay]

Thanks Lance for showing a caring and welcoming approach to this conversation, and Bradley, thanks for such honest comments about your life and for becoming a great man regardless of sometimes difficult life circumstances. Thanks Lance and Bradley for a great chat!

[@robhardy8404]

Brilliant. Two of my hero's chatting openly and candidly. Absolutely love it. Strong men in so many ways ❤

[@martharosesatx]

Two grown men, talking about massive personal issues and being examples to other men who may be struggling, that you can talk to someone and you won't be shamed for it. If Bradley is wondering what his place in life is, it's exactly this. To be a leader amongst men, you're saving lives just by doing exactly this. You were an inspiration me on the bike, and you continue to be an inspiration to me even in retirement.

[@EITiga]

These two are battling for the last podium in 2009 TdF. Amazed this both champs 👏

[@robertoozbusi3427]

Well done to Lance and Sir. Brad! Awesome pod to listen to and watch. So much admiration for their leadership in doing what they do!

[@BenLeMasurier-t3q]

Good interview. Well done Lance on reaching out to a fellow cyclist, competitor and friend. A very genuine interview. Hope Brad gets better and can learn to manage his difficult childhood.

[@Benn321]

Wow - what a video. Say what you want about Lance, but he has his friends’ backs. We love you Sir Brad. Be strong.

[@dariogiancristofano3371]

Total legends. Big thanks for this podcast guys

[@jamiesomers3564]

Absolute class this is, they sort of interview each other - epic compelling stuff

[@gobi1984bw]

I love to see, how these Champions not only have fighted against each other in competition, they also help each other in life. Big thanks Lance, what you have done to Jan! And it is als great to see, how you help Wiggo! It is always the best way to attack and not to defend, when it is difficult in life.

[@NathanForrest-f7j]

Man, this shit almost brings a tear to the eye... amazing show!

[@srtsniper75]

Epic. Thank you both for an awesome conversation.

[@Steve-ko3st]

Great interview/chat, very intriguing, could listen for hours.

[@leeberry6309]

There is something about Bradley Wiggins that has ordinary people like me just wishing him good things. Just a ordinary lad that achieved extraordinary things. You can feel the respect and admiration between them both.

[@larrytanzo4761]

I wish Bradley the best with his way out. Very lucky to have Lance to share his story and give advice about the road to getting back. Great show.

[@skimckay]

Chapeau to you both. That was a fantastic interview. Very brave of you. It's ok to talk. Commendable. Watched it all in my Discovery jersey with the classic yellow band! - Keep it coming lads. Lance, I was blown away with your Alpe d'huez ascent with Basso, Bradley, I watched you get the Gold in London, 2012.

[@TheSkullMan66]

Fantastic discussion, Thank you both!

[@DudeEnglish]

Wiggo was such a talent!!! I love the guy!!!! Amazing on the track and fantastic on the road!!! Legend!!!!

[@mykweb]

Absolutely amazing. Brad is such a good genuine guy. Could listen to his stories all day. Lance is also a brilliant host and he has definitely evolved over the years.

[@chrisvanbuggenum871]

Listened to the whole thing in one sitting. What a conversation.

[@robinwilliams4774]

Great Podcast and well done Lance for looking out for a mate! It’s important to share these things and though you are both legends of the sport, Lance has been through the hard path and come out on the other side to become the caring person you are today. It’s important for you to show Sir Brad the path for him and support him on his journey. Good luck chaps!!!

[@TheGinger1]

Great to see Brad looking healthy and ready to move into the next chapter of his life. As someone who had the pleasure of riding with him, I'm so glad to see him making those steps forward. One quick note for Lance: It's great to see you sitting down and having this kind of open and honest interview with people. To make it even better, try and ask or bring up one point at a time and let the person talk about it. At one point you were talking for 4 mins covering 3 or 4 different points from Brad's life without letting him comment about them. The Move is all about Lance (as it should be), the Forward needs to be about the person being interviewed. Keep up the great work. And bring Brad back for the whole tour next year! Brad could have his own sub-podcast talking about the history of the climbs and riders for each of the stages.

[@BeatPoet67]

This is an insanely good conversation. Bravo to you both.

[@paulmeakin24]

This was brilliant.... Human to human... Superb

[@conorhanley9009]

Fantastic , all the ppl involved in this interview RESPECT ✊ 2 legends imo , love the show

[@leighmullin71]

Bradley sounds like a fantastic father of which he should be very proud

[@crobertbrooke5321]

Enjoyed every word ! A tremendous amount of respect for both of You..

[@harleywainie]

Great podcast guys, both of you are hero’s of mine. Great to see you gents helping others. Kind Regards Matt from Derbyshire England.

[@robbojnr27]

no one cares where you are from

[@sazridesbikes]

This. All of this. Thank you both.

[@londonpickering8675]

That was a fantastic interview. I hope Bradley returns for the full tour next year and finds his way to the Insight place in Tennessee.