Sister Wives #2 - (Wanting to be third) - Therapist Reacts

[@Twirlingbarbie]

Dr. Honda getting all serious about the toaster joke😭

[@lisanoell]

Yes she is literally cooking her toast in the oven. The humor might be an acknowledgement by her that it is unusual and people tease her about it. I joke this way.

[@mielimedina3146]

lol!!!! 😂 I was cracking up at him getting all sidetracked by that- I think she probably just prefers doing it in the oven and maybe doesn’t want it to take up counter space. Some people just have different ways of toasting 😅🤭

[@tonicarter5444]

After her sister saw this episode, she sent her a toaster.

[@Teacher-Christine]

@@tonicarter5444 sometimes I just love the way the universe works everything out! (And also: hooray for sisters!]

[@gwendolynmorgan7803]

​@@tonicarter5444with a note that said "you're ridiculous" lol because sisters

[@dittoroxursox1o1]

One thing to remember about Christine is she's basically polygamous royalty. Her family has been in the church for a long time and she had lived her entire life surrounded by polygamy. She's from the Allred line and therefore has a really high pedigree in their community. So a lot of her perspective, especially early in, come from that background, polygamy for her was the default way of life and while I won't call her sheltered, I would say she was originally the most entrenched in the lifestyle. Also the show does shy away from a lot of the religious aspects but another important thing is three wives are required to enter the celestial kingdom. That is part of the motivation for the wives to push for at least three wives. If their belief system that means Cody will be a god someday, to find a third wife means immortality. As for the spare boys, many polygamist groups use them for free labor then eventually discard and abandon them. There are multiple charity groups focused on helping the "Lost Boys" find their way in the real world and get their feet under them after basically being left on the streets.

[@christinepirir6759]

Hi there! I am from this polygamist group and you are right about Christine being from the Allred line. “Royalty” for lack of a better term but actually there are SO MANY Allreds (my mom included) that it’s not really anything special UNLESS you’re someone like Kody who comes from a convert family and is therefore on the outside looking for a way to fit in a little better. As for the mathematical aspect of the left-over men/boys. It is true that there are many many males who cannot marry in the community because the men who are very good-looking/higher status naturally get more wives meanwhile there are many who can’t even get one wife. Unlike the FLDS group led by Warren Jeffs, the AUB (Apostalic United Brethren) does not kick out or excommunicate these boys but usually they end up either waiting a very long time to marry and taking young wives when they become available (never under 18 in the AUB) or leaving the group in pursuit of a wife and family elsewhere.

[@annejahn6581]

Oh my gosh!! I had no idea 😂

[@christinepirir6759]

“The Group” is usually the way we refer to the AUB. Idk why but it’s a thing. I’ve since left the Group but will always identify as a “Groupie” lol

[@surfingthedarkness]

So interesting! Especially your explanation, @christine

[@lacysnake]

Didn’t Christine’s mom get excommunicated and Christine lived with her dad and other moms? Hearing her and her brothers talk about their childhood… clearly Christine blocked some things out and was living in her own world. It’s all soooo sad.

[@SavannahSedai]

Does someone want to fill in Dr. Honda on Christine's very specific brand of humor before he gets too deep? 😂

[@Duckduckobtusegoose]

He’s pretty good at recognizing patterns, I’m sure he will pick it up pretty quickly😂😂

[@jbrooke156]

He has to figure it out like we did

[@lNoWayAroundItl]

12:07 For a series about polygamy, TLC doesn't do much to add context. Christine's grandfather, Rulon C. Allred, was the founder of the Apostolic United Brethren. She has been considered polygamy royalty.

[@gwendolynmorgan7803]

Also Rulon was killed by Christine's uncle. Ervil LeBaron

[@ccincc5633]

⁠​⁠@@gwendolynmorgan7803 Gosh, which leads into another rabbit hole of the LeBaron group and their brand/off shoot of fundamental Mormonism. So many layers to unwrap.

[@kimm6589]

@@gwendolynmorgan7803 Great uncle. Christines mom is Ruthann LeBaron.

[@alisonnealon8335]

Christine is just kidding around. She's making light of having little resources and a lot of mouths to feed. You'll get to know her sense of humor as you watch the show.

[@susanriddle9408]

Yea she was just being silly and Dr. Took it literally.

[@emilygilliland861]

I think Christine’s idea about being the 3rd wife makes sense if you know you want plural marriage. I would think being the 1st wife would be the most difficult because you build a relationship together first and establish routines and norms, then you have to adjust from monogamy to plural marriage. It would be hard emotionally. Just my take

[@lakritz8732]

Good point. I could imagine myself becoming a 3rd wife much easier than being the first and adding more people later. You already know what you’re getting into.

[@bonnielynn8412]

Maybe she thought being the 3rd would mean being the last so she would never feel replaced.

[@jola381]

Doc is going to need therapy after covering this alongside the rest of us.

[@christinepirir6759]

DR HONDA! I LOVE watching your content and I grew up in this polygamist group!! Can I interview with you sometime? So excited to see you doing videos of the group I came from!! I feel like I’ll be getting personal therapy from you now 😂

[@nebraska418]

He probably won't see any comments due to spoilers, but this would be so interesting!Make sure to email him on his website

[@christinepirir6759]

@@nebraska418 I did and he responded!! :D

[@ChantalOfTheNorth]

It's fascinating hearing someone react to this family without any prior knowledge.

[@ikabby6482]

I’m in the same boat as the Dr. here 😅 I know very little about these people

[@Dauerglotzer123]

Christine now has a toaster 🤣

[@eloiselogue]

I can't wait until we meet Robin.

[@Shante_AllDay]

12:57 “the polygamy aspect is lower on the list than other kinds of control” and then proceeds to list many of the scenarios covered during the seasons.. I can’t wait to hear your prospective on the evolution of the wives throughout the series..

[@SamAjono]

Sometimes when those strict FLDS communities have too many men, they kick the younger ones out so that the older men can marry the women without competition. Dr. Honda should watch Keep Sweet.

[@christinepirir6759]

Yes that is true of the FLDS but the Brown family comes from the AUB so it’s a little different. They don’t kick anyone out but those boys and men are ultimately forced to leave unable to pursue a wife and family within The Group

[@AliciaMcIntire]

It depends on the group. FLDS kick men out, but AUB (Apostolic United Brethren, the more mainstream-ish group the Browns are in) does not.

[@paulan7218]

@@christinepirir6759 so you say they don’t kick them out. but having no options for wives basically forces them to kick themselves out so they’re being kicked out. They just don’t realize it and you’re just lying for them.

[@christinepirir6759]

@@paulan7218 Not trying to “lie for them”. I agree as I said in my reply that they are ultimately forced out. Just not excommunicated directly like the FLDS. Calm down :)

[@SamAjono]

@@christinepirir6759 I understand that there’s a difference between the two groups and should have been clearer in my comment. I was just drawing comparison between how another polygamous LDS group handles the number of single men when multiple women are married to one man.

[@FishareFriendsNotFood972]

I can see the draw, actually, for women who are aromantic, asexual, or gay for being the 'third' in a plural marriage, I'm getting that vibe here too. In a culture where you MUST partner with men, being one of many wives is the best way to do what you MUST do, without actually having to fully commit to dealing with a male partner, or any partner at all. I can see in situations with even more wives, like 8, eventually being an '8th wife' basically becomes living as a basically single lady, just one who is not allowed to have a dating life.

[@sarahm9968]

She is not any of those things and if you check her social media you'll see her life has changed A LOT. Very much in a love marriage with a monogamous man. That being said, yes that could be true. Also, a huge point is I think that the reluctance to be a first wife is because it requires the most adaptation. You are in a monogamous relationship and then you're not. Understandably, that must be very difficult if you actually love or get along with your spouse. Additionally, they are expected not to have any sexual experience, so to share the only sexual partner you've ever had must be brutal in a functioning relationship.

[@FishareFriendsNotFood972]

@@sarahm9968 Thank you for all the info, I didn't know all that 🙂

[@christinepirir6759]

Re: Christine saying third wife is “easiest” and didn’t want to be married to a guy by herself. STRONG gender roles within The Group dictate that women make a home-cooked meal for her man every day, raise his babies with very little participation on his part, and keep the home clean. Often homeschooling the kids as well because public school systems are seen as very corrupt. So yes, having a sisterwife and companion is easiest

[@missednoahsarc2654]

Keeps her from having a toaster bath

[@BeverlyRose330]

This is going to be such a journey

[@ShipFantastic]

19:59 hey that's me! 🖤 Thanks Dr!

[@devochkadee]

Lool watching Dr. Kirk struggling to understand and doind double takes is proving to be very entertaining! And ive never even watched this show!

[@elizabethpearson5504]

Re: too many men vs not enough women you can research “lost boys” boys that are kicked out of the community bc the elder men don’t want to share the women (or girls)

[@christinepirir6759]

Not the same group but many men and boys are ultimately sort of forced to leave the AUB if they want to pursue marriage and family. They are never kicked out though

[@Gokce-Aysun]

I have heard something similar among Kazakh polygamist wives. There is something called 'Toqal.' Which means the second wife. And there is some women in society who want to be 'Toqal' and not the first wife. Even though a lot of times the first wife generally tends to be older and the 'Chief' wife. (Not in all cases, but in most I would say.) And in cultures like ours we do tend to give seniority to hose with age, experience, and wisdom. We tend to respect our elders. And perhaps even revere our elders. All other wives after Toqal, (Muslims can only have up to 4), seem to have the same status as the Toqal.

[@WitchOracle]

I think if it was a given that my husband was going to have more wives than just me, I wouldn't want to be the first wife. To me it seems that the first wife has more responsibilities with fewer rewards, ultimately.

[@Gokce-Aysun]

@@WitchOracle Maybe it could depend on age too. Or how interested you are in some 'benefits.' I don't know how to call it ha ha. For example. I am in my mid 40s and I am surely not interested in sexual intimacy. I am in the Perimenopause stage for sure. I think it's starting early for me than is typical. Also I see how long my Great-Uncle and his 3 wives are living and I think they have way less stress. There is so much support and help in chores, responsibilities, and raising children. I see the beauty in that and the benefit of that. So it would not actually bother me a whole lot if my husband took another wife, or if I was the first wife. However, I would not want a co-wife who was confrontational and saw herself as my rival though, because that would create a toxic environment for me and my children. so I would want to be included in the decision. Also, I mentioned this to my husband and he made a funny face and said he will pass because he can't afford another wife. LMAO! Also, since my great-uncle from Kazakhstan has 3 wives, this is not something unheard of in our family. It's permitted in our religion ONLY if the husband can afford it, and he can treat his wives and children equally and properly. Also men can not have more than 4 wives. There is a limit. I understand that with Mormons there is no limit. So that is quite different too. And I would say that most Muslim men understand that it is a difficult task to support and treat equally multiple wives and more children, so they don't actually practice polygamy. It's actually starting to become a little bit more common in Kazakhstan. I think because some people are returning to their pre-Soviet era customs and traditions. I mean I am not 100% sure, but this seems likely.

[@kris9259]

@@Gokce-Aysunhey there. I’m almost fifty and had a hysterectomy that sent me into early menopause. Ask your dr to test your hormones. They helped me regulate mine and I feel 22 again, no joke

[@Gokce-Aysun]

@@kris9259 I have discussed such things with my doctor. I am adverse to any unnecessary treatments, including hormone therapy that isn't necessary. I won't die if my libido is low, so it's just not for me. I am very weird about that stuff. But I appreciate that it is available for other people. I don't mind aging and letting the natural changes happen. Now if I had some ill effects and my health was at risk I would of course try to prolong my life. 100%. I want to live as long as possible.

[@nova601]

I don’t want to give you a spoiler but keep in mind when Christine says when a woman comes in and just wants the man that rips the family apart. That will be interesting in later episodes/seasons.

[@CLBellamey]

I don't want to give you a spoiler but here's a spoiler. 😔

[@briannab6833]

I like me a spoiler 😂

[@bento_cat9124]

I would like to recommend that you treat this like an actual spoiler and put a warning followed by some space so that it isn’t accidentally read

[@TheMadsVolta]

If you’re curious what happens to all the extra boys and men of polygamist group, I highly suggest looking into the “Lost Boys” of polygamy. There’s rampant use of child labor in these communities which leaves many young boys injured, they’ll then be discarded by the groups and literally left on the streets to die essentially. These communities are pretty horrifically abusive to all their members but this group in particular are quite literally forgotten and thrown out, lost, by their communities and even the conversation of polygamy.

[@knwoo12]

I took the toaster/shark comment as a joke. The more likely reason why Christine cooks toast in the oven is that it is an easy way to make toast in bulk with mininal clean up. If I remember correctly she was not only taking care of her kids but Janelle's too. I think in the first season Kody had 12 kids. Meri only has one child. So Christine would be taking care of 11 kids. Or cooking toast in the oven could just be something cutesy for television.

[@AliciaMcIntire]

I live about 20 miles from the core group of AUB, and yes, they are insular and culty, just not as bad as the FLDS/Warren Jeff's group. They recently opened a charter school (a public school with state funding), but they tried to make it only for AUB kids and teach AUB doctrine. The state came in and shut the school down for violating issues of church and state. This was a pretty big deal, since Utah is typically very hands off with charter schools. This case was just so egregious that they were forced to step in though.

[@tiffanyweaver8945]

Thank you so much for covering this show!

[@beatrizcarter9172]

Yay🎉 I was named!! 19:16 ❤ I am honored to support you Dr. Honda! 🎉

[@Millelykkeandersen]

I hear Christines comment ad referring to polygami, that in order for it to work, you cant "just" want the man, you have to want all the things that comes with it - the big family and cooperation that goes with it, otherwise it won't work.

[@dragoninwinterfell5213]

Regarding the idea that a third wife will balance everything out, in the case of this family, Kody married Meri and then married Janelle without Meri knowing he was courting her. Meri and Janelle didn't get along and were having issues, particularly with Meri being abusive. Kody married a third wife to balance them out and chose Christine specifically because she was "royalty" in their cult. This worked somehow as it balanced out the dynamic as Meri had someone else to focus on.

[@AymaraLeonCepeda]

It's so funny/refreshing to watch you react to a "new" show and trying to understand it 😅. I'm righ there with you, cause i haven't seen it either 🌱

[@merrileejessop3748]

In polygamous cults teenage boys are often kicked out of the group for “misbehaving” this is what creates a larger ratio of women to men so the men have the option to take on more wives.

[@mipsan]

with 2 wives they are fighting against each other, when a 3rd one comes it seemingly calms down since it evolves to scheming and cliques between the wives.

[@christinepirir6759]

Yes Dr Honda is right it’s just one of the stupid things people say like, “ if you’re having marital problems, have a child.” It doesn’t actually solve anything just ups the commitment level I guess

[@katella]

At this rate some of us won't live to see the end of his watching the series.😟

[@Katfancy40]

He picks the smallest of things to focus on like a woman toasting toast in her oven and blab on and on and still put out a tiny video and with the same ad. I keep wondering why I have watched a few of his videos on sister wives. IDK honestly.

[@ShipFantastic]

Mfkin' here for it! Let's go!

[@DJCairoMonroe]

Same girl same 😂😂😂

[@IWantToRideMyBike]

Yessss

[@ShipFantastic]

I'm ready for this journey 😂​@@DJCairoMonroe

[@IWantToRideMyBike]

My sister in law grew up without a microwave because their mom was scared of them

[@lindorini]

Im actually scared of them😅

[@pherhymeswithamc6399]

well they do emit radiations. dont stand close to watch the food cook. you can get radiation. will it kill you? depends how many hours you spend watching popcorn pop and other radiation exposure throughout your life. toasters on the other hand should not be too big of a fire hazard if you keep them free of crumbs, keep the cords intact, and have electricity that wasnt installed in the 1400s (joking) but for real, with electrical that meets international bulding codes, you should not have an out catch fire. microwaves do expose you to radiation, as well as things like Xrays, Cat scans, etc. that's why there is a warning on medical scans that use radiation that they can cause cancer, as well as why they have everyone in immediate vicinity leave the room or wear protective gear. but they dont give people those warnings at home. its such a small amount of radiation, though.

[@Catmom-gl5nt]

I only plug in my toaster when using and then unplug. Toasters can start fires unattended and they are ghost electricity drains. Mostly, it’s because I have 4 cats and am afraid of them turning the toaster on when I’m not home.

[@SofiaPLikePhoenix]

I love this fluo pink shirt on dr Honda!!

[@bellamonstrum]

17:19 they kick the boys out when they turn 15 or 16 and start presenting a threat. They would just drop them off in the nearest city. I've seen it in documentaries about fundamentalists living on compounds. They reference it in Big Love too.

[@TulipsandCats]

Enjoyed listening to your perspective!

[@Tinkerbe11]

When my best friend had her second child, she said that it was easier having 2 kids, as they would keep each other busy, while one kid was always hanging on to her and kept her busy. This might be similar with a husband and 2 wifes: If the wife is a stay at home Mum, she will probably be happy when her husband comes home from work and she can interact with an adult, while the husband has interacted with adults all day and just wants to come home and be left alone. Having 2 wives will ease that, as the women have another adult to interact and don't "bother" the husband that much. However, I don't see how a third wife would be less "stressful" to the relationship than 2 wives. If they argue, then 3 wives arguing, or 2 arguing and the third has to pick sides will be a lot more stress for everyone. However, most of my life I had 2 best frineds, and we all were best friends to each other. So if one of us had no time, the other 2 still could do something together. However, most of the time we were hanging out as a trio, and it was great not just to have one other loving opinion but two, when you were discussing things. And we rarely argued. But I don't know how a husband would fit into that.

[@ashleywilliams1988]

This is so on point. The wives are essentially nonsexual spouses to one another. It’s easy to imagine the benefits of this. Couldn’t pay me to be apart of it, but I can understand it.

[@emilygera2797]

So glad you're doing sister wives now!

[@PENH5428]

I love the toaster rant loool

[@ralphsumlin6875]

probability was explained to her by her sister and sent her a toaster she now uses lol

[@shyamanandakumar470]

I can't speak for mormons specifically, but to your Q, assuming 50:50 sex distribution of children, why would a cult promote polygamy - one explanation: war. There's plenty of evidence across cultures across the globe where several communities where men are disproportionately killed young, polygamy is promoted...I mean, Islam would not fit all the specifications of your definition of cult, but there's a very similar promotion of the concept of polygamy - surely you are well versed Dr.H - I hope you are willing to explore this further.

[@bellamonstrum]

1:09 Bahaha! It sounds like that statistic is supposed to make people feel better about sharks, not worse about toasters. But I guess everyone hears things their own way.. Maybe she hears things through existential anxiety. I don't want to phobia-shame, I just found that justification hilarious.

[@Amber306-qa]

Thanks!

[@PsychologyInSeattle]

Thanks, Clearfield!

[@emilyrobertson522]

I am excited to go down this road with doctor honda

[@craziinancy1]

When she says she didn’t want to be “a wedge” as the second wife that actually makes sense as the addition of the second wife is them transitioning into actually practicing polygamy so it could lead to strain on the initial relationship. Maybe by the time the 3rd wife comes around they have it a bit more figured out and are sure of what they want.

[@thebowandbullet]

Re. marrying a third: So is the logic that with 2 wives, there's a lot of jealousy, but once you add a third, no one feels special anymore nor dares act jealous? It would be interesting to compare and contract polyamory and polygamy. It seems to be that polyamory is based in respect of all involved, mutually agreed upon boundaries and expectations, while polygamy is based on intense gender indoctrination, women having extremely low expectations of men and life, and men having free reign to do almost anything they want.

[@pherhymeswithamc6399]

theres still jealously in polygamy. i think its more about the balancing of roles and issues with the wives. some wives have less interest in the husband, kinda like hes a sperm donor that hangs around sometimes. i think its that some wives there can be a competition of power/authority and the third is kinda like a tie breaker. my guess

[@thebowandbullet]

@@pherhymeswithamc6399 That makes sense. It also occurred to me that it sounded like how people describe children: the first kid tends to have more parent attention (before the other kids arrive) and later more responsibility, then there's the middle child, and the youngest who's usually least responsible but the favourite.

[@asho345]

My first thought was maybe the third wife provides healthy triangulation.

[@thebowandbullet]

@@asho345 That's a clever idea, I hadn't thought of that. You might very well be correct.

[@Berrie.S.E.Studios]

17:20 Maybe the men died because of wars? I was watching a video about the London social scene around the "Bridgerton" era and the narrator pointed out that because of wars, competition is stiff among women in those circles.

[@AliciaMcIntire]

This was often the case in early Mormon history. Through persecution and westward migration, lots of men died, and this was one of the ways to take care of widows and spinsters. This need eventually went way, and that is part of the reason (along with an application for US statehood) why the LDS church outlawed polygamy in 1890.

[@testing1-2three]

The not wanting to be the first wife could also be that there’s a status of being a multiple wife and not a single and also the culture of being the first wife and “the man getting tired of her” so she was angling to be a “favorite” and to aim to be “spoiled”.

[@beeexcited1431]

Christine is the jokester of the group. I'm pretty sure the toaster comment was a joke.

[@cammiex7238]

You also have to consider that they are in a religion where the high priest guy doesn't match them they're free to fall in love more or less

[@oliviacampos1800]

Hi Dr. Honda. You were curious about the ratio of men to women in the cult polygamous environment and what gives. They select young boys (I think around 14 or 15), and drive them off and abandon them. They are called Lost Boys.

[@les8826]

I want you to review shark tale lol

[@lNoWayAroundItl]

9:29 supposedly the third would be the final wife in most cases.

[@janinefanta9276]

Does anyone know what days he will be releasing sister wives videos?

[@AmblingSoulCC]

I think it's less that the number of wives have less of a personality from the beginning (remember they are usually married young after having been groomed to the idea). It seems like by the introduction of new wives tends to cause similar problems in the existing relationships that the initial wives develop similar coping mechanisms.

[@quadracingmommaof5]

These groups kick out any of the young good-looking guys that threaten the older men or ugly ones getting more women. They tell them they have been bad or done something terrible. They call them the "lost boys". It's very sad, because like the women these boys have nothing and they just put them out on the street, they aren't allowed to communicate with family.

[@kingadale8108]

It never occurred to me that that could be the reason toaster cables are usually so short 🤔

[@kacrichton4434]

two wives vs three: probably two wives have problems, because one man having several wives goes against natural instincts, and a 3rd just gives company for the 2nd when he's with the 1st... etc.

[@minamousdiksmiely]

Today, christine changed totally

[@775simplyme]

The famoly dynamics within these systems are very interesting the more you leaen about it the more is discovered. The 2 vs 3 wives things makes sense when youbstudy it. But the long n short is that there isnt a third wheel syndrom with the wife. While the husband spends quality time with one wife the other two will hang out.

[@derekalbert1759]

I’m wondering whether Dr. Honda plans to watch all of this show, or if he’s going to skip to the good parts. There is a lot of show to cover, and not all of it is that eventful IMO.

[@ElfInTheFlowers]

Regarding the “surplus” of guys, I suggest that you Google the FLDS lost boys, not the same cult, but same issue.

[@sunnyscott4876]

"girls" is just a colloquialism that women use when talking among themselves. Don't get hung up on it.

[@secret_badass]

Regarding what happens to the “extra” men, I know that Warren Jeffs would force out a lot of the young men/teen age boys. The Browns obviously aren’t from such an extreme sect, but my impression is that similar things happen other polygamous sects - the young men are either told that they need to leave the community or they are expected to bring in women from outside of the community

[@KerbyKast]

I think the reason she (Christine) didn’t want to be the first was because she didn’t want to watch her husband court and build a bond a new wife. I think Christine thought her being the 3rd meant she was going to be the last wife for Kody. And she did genuinely want the family and sister wives, but in later seasons she shares being the basement wife and how she had to be a certain way and have a certain disposition for Kody. I think you are onto something with a first wife choosing to have control or authority over other wives. They don’t get to control that their husband is having more wives in this religion, but perhaps choosing whom and how that relationship dynamic will be makes her feel important. We learn Meri is a controlling personality (the household particulars she has), so perhaps her upbringing in polygamy, watching the lack of control women in her family actually had, contributed. I still haven’t figured out why Janelle would have chosen this lifestyle, outside of being very independent and wanting kids but not necessarily wanting to raise them.

[@angelabarton5146]

ADDING a family member to an already problematic family dynamic might be the worst advice I’ve ever heard.

[@jjmsf]

OMG FINALLY DOING SISTER WIVES!!!!!!!!!! YESSSS

[@suzepocalypse]

I can't wait for Dr. H to discuss Logan's role in the family 🤦‍♀️ I know he'll pick up on what's going on right away.

[@Fernando145.4]

I noticed everyone’s saying that Christine has a specific type of humor, but I wish it wasn’t edited out that Christine meant it as a joke or that’s her brand of humor, cause I’m with DKH, I would be focused on what they’re saying and the type of person they are. People say a lot of interesting things man

[@heddalettuce6009]

So happy you’re watching this! I hope you have a skip filler list so you don’t slog through all thousand episodes haha Ty for laughing at my username it made me smile 💚

[@nadinaborgli2751]

I don't think it is entirely fitting to compare the choice to be polyamorous vs the "choice" to be polygamous WHEN the person has grown up in a strict, probably restrictive, religious group which values polygami. I suspect that these choices stem from very different motivations. I would think that the decision to be polyamorous in a monogamous society would stem from knowing oneself quite well and having reflected deeply on who the person is, what needs they have and what fits them the best. The choice to enter polygamous relationship, at a very young age nonetheless, might be somewhat different. When the religion elevates a specific lifestyle and the followers choose to live by that, the message is very often not that the person needs to reflect on what fits them the best, but how they need to change to fit into what these dogmas expect from them. I think Christine shows an impressive insight by saying she wanted to be the third wife. She shows that she knows herself somewhat ,she realizes that she wants to be special to her husband and she makes a choice by trying to combine her knowledge of self with the options that are available to her within her religion. We can question how well thought through they are, of course, but I think this is more due to what was available to her in her life situation having grown up with those values and beliefs (if I recall correctly her family was also quite influential in this group), and being 19 when making that decision. That is quite young to have the ability to fully reflect over all the aspects of her choices.

[@mayahdoss7050]

Watch season 1 and then season 18 and you'll get everything you need to know about this family

[@kimosabe818]

Christine is royalty within this cult

[@NumberJenn]

I would love for this series to lead to a Dr.kirk crossover with Zelph on the Shelf , or Cultstoconciousness.

[@virginiasoares826]

There's also Growing up in polygamy, I watched a few if their reaction videos about sister wives, comparing the situation with what happened in their family

[@virginiasoares826]

There's also Growing up in polygamy, I watched a few if their reaction videos about sister wives, comparing the situation with what happened in their family

[@nerd55120]

Did anyone else think the screen grab was Keith urban for a moment?

[@JD-FIES]

That’s why young men get abandoned when they are teenagers. So there’s less competition. Dont you know this Dr Honda?

[@ers-77]

You should watch Seeking Sister Wife!

[@MrPeppers4life]

You asked how does it work when there's a 50 / 50 split of men and women in a cult that practices polygamy. I have seen documentaries about FLDS communities where it's common for teenage boys to be kicked out of the community without any resources. There's a pretense of this boy having done something wrong, but it's essentially the solution to the problem you brought up.

[@tmtb80]

Hmmmm. I thought the first wife who spoke wasn't implying that a woman would brake-up or take a man from his immediate family; i thought she meant: a man who gets married gets pulled away from his extended family. Often, families might favor the maternal side. Especially, if the woman is very close with parents/sisters/siblings.??????

[@tvtvtfan3767]

More people died from car accidents than toasters

[@Dee-nh4dc]

I think the toaster thing was a joke. She’s very playful

[@lynnvon8758]

Believe it or not theyre a smaller family as far as polygamy goes

[@LizPalmer-w4y]

A joke people 😂 beware the toaster

[@SiobhanDoyle]

I believe the additional unmarried men in these cults tend to be used for cheap or free labor. Might not be in this case, but it's certainly an element of some of them.

[@jennifersweitzer3472]

To understand how the these groups handle the excess men look up the fundamentalist Mormon “lost boys”

[@heliosphere9789]

Good god, the toaster thing is a JOKE!!

[@FishareFriendsNotFood972]

It really sounds like the female roommates are the biggest draw to this lifestyle, according to these women. Which makes me giggle, because that means fundamentalist rural women actually have something major in common with 'high powered writers for a women's magazine' in New York City, the type who are the protagonist for every rom com in the early aughts. 🤣🤣🤣

[@asho345]

What happens to all of the men in this community who don’t get married because a few men have several wives?

[@asho345]

Wow, I guess Dr. Honda was wondering the same thing.

[@AshWilliams376]

off topic sir. but could you do a reaction to Ren- Hi Ren. :) love the channel

[@prchix]

Let me a give you a little heads up on Christine. She's not the sharpest tool in the shed.

[@LaurenRose1987]

Google the lost boys of polygamy!! Interesting insight on what happens to many of the boys and men in this cult!

[@LizPalmer-w4y]

The toaster comment was a joke

[@josyannebisson5313]

things will do down down down, also young men are kick out of cult usualy

[@jjmsf]

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[@pandakat915]

Can we please stop comparing polyamory and polygamy? They are very much not the same

[@Dee-nh4dc]

Honestly? I see you trying really hard not to be judgmental, but your first impressions really aren’t right, in my opinion. I think they’re extremely different from the stereotype and it’s not fair to compare them to the Duggars. But I will admit, I often find myself at odds of most of Sister Wives fandom. Speaking as someone who’s seen all seasons.

[@Muddy-Brown]

I can't stand Christine. Early in the seasons, she was going on tv shows promoting polygamy, and she even got into a debate/argument with her aunt who had left the cult. Later, when she learned she could no longer get eggplant because Kody was cut off of the older women, she basically ran out the door to go find another man.

[@marischmaltz]

the Browns are NOT polyamorous so you views of that do not relate to the Browns