Six-Year-Old First-Grader Intentionally Shoots Teacher | Richneck Elementary School Shooting

[@evelynwaugh4053]

No child who is so out of control that he needs a parent with him in school (per the IEP) should be in a class with other children who need a reasonably calm and controlled atmosphere to learn. That's insane.

[@denischabriddell986]

It sounds like if he had an IEP they weren't honoring it. So was he receiving the proper help he needed.

[@natman2939]

My thoughts exactly. I’ve never heard of a parent having to come to school with their children

[@natman2939]

@@Joe-sg9ll What is racist? The person said that a child who has behavior provoked bad enough they need a parent with them in school shouldn’t be around other kids. What does that have to do with race? Is that something a particular race does regularly??? Because I’ve literally never heard of it. Ever. Please enlighten me.

[@mp5249]

Welcome to public school. I had a special needs kid in my car for a field trip (unbeknownst to me) who was incredibly violent and had a full-time worker who didn't go with me and my INFANT IN MY CAR!! At one point he had threatened to stab us with a screwdriver he found in the car. He rode with his hands on top of his head. To get to the location. He was in kindergarten. Later removed from class for constant violent behaviors. This was over 20 years ago. Oh, he's in prison now.

[@natman2939]

@@Joe-sg9ll so they won’t shoot people….

[@1xoACEox1]

The kid was smart enough to bring the gun on the one day his parents weren't there. Absolutely premeditated.

[@sharonmoore5580]

Good point

[@49ersfoldem]

Absolutely damaged child. I wouldn’t charged this child even if it was legal. You know damn well his head ain’t right

[@surrealsteph]

Exactly! He knew what he was doing!

[@Galaxie08]

A 6-year old doesn't think in those terms. 6, not 16.

[@Galaxie08]

@@user-account-not-found What a BS.

[@amyhenson1878]

This is why I left my kindergarten class mid year. I had 3 specific children making threats, hurting, and throwing furniture. I was told to document. That was it. Absolutely no support. It was horrible, stressful and unfair to me and my students.

[@kelseymathias3881]

wow...used to be that teachers just feared high school students...now it's all the way down to kindergarten. why would anyone want to be a classroom teacher anymore?

[@robyn3349]

Schools are not healthy safe places, even in Kindergarten? Time to change the system. School Choice for all.

[@rtos]

Kindergarten children making threats! What the world come to?

[@mjesns77]

does anyone know why the schools don’t support the teachers? i just don’t understand why bc they are on the same side. if anything, not helping the teacher can lead to this situation. and a lawsuit. seems backwards to me

[@jabine59]

@@mjesns77 I'm guessing admin fears parent will sue if their kids get kicked out on the teacher's word alone, hence the document, document, document...

[@Tindometari]

Can I just point out that Abigail, shot through the hand and chest, still cleared the classroom for her students' safety? Glory to her.

[@HellsFurby]

She is a hero in my book and absolutely deserves a raise. I hope she is able to recover well, especially mentally because this has got to be extremely traumatic.

[@Powertuber1000]

This is what it's like daily in all blc schools.

[@evonne315]

I am so grateful she survived. ♥️

[@liliumjade]

Adrenaline is very effective in allowing you to do what you need to do immediately following a serious injury. Not minimizing her heroic actions but hearing these kind of things make you realize what amazing capabilities we all have.

[@kentdelahay2336]

"Could I just point out" something sounds fishy about this story..........Instead of clearing out the class, why did she not just take the gun away from the kid......common sense.

[@j.h.6081]

"He wanted to light her on fire and watch her die," but somehow kids under seven are not capable of comprehending the act of killing someone.

[@thecozyconstellation]

right!!! this was shocking. don't tell me they don't know what they are doing YES THEY DO

[@fredajordan5704]

J:H: Yes, inclusion doesn`t always work. Sometime a criminal tendence shows early on, like here... The household/parenting is at fault in the first place, then school authorities for not protecting their staff.

[@dr-ozone]

so.....prison time for the 6 year old?

[@davidmann4533]

What does recess have to do with any of this you buffoon

[@wrmlm37]

@user-mq2tw9ym5l how? No one know the race of the child. No one knows the race of the mother. Well, no one outside the district. More to the point, no one in this thread even mentions skin tone, anywhere...

[@mauricedavis2160]

I'm sorry to say, but that child's parents need to be held seriously accountable!!!🙏😢❣️

[@abelcaine9519]

watch heavy duty country video of this childs video he made with the gun saying he was going to murder her go watch video in heavy duty country parents told child he couldn't get in trouble at his age

[@ImNotaRussianBot]

Weren't they charged with felony negligence?

[@abelcaine9519]

@@ImNotaRussianBot waiting to see what happens but the parents knew child had access,told child he couldn't get in trouble at his age did tou see the video if the child w the gun saying he was going to burn her down... who took the video...mom?

[@sharonreeves9093]

As a retired teacher of 33 years this story just reminds me of why I left when I did. Having a lack of administrative support, oversized classes, and parents that often blame the teacher for their child's behavior are very common problems nationwide. She was, at 25, an obviously new teacher with only 2-3 years experience under her belt. The student was apparently very aggressive and disturbed and should have been receiving a LOT of supervision and supportive care. For someone to say they kept a 9mm handgun under lock and key, with a trigger lock, unloaded, and yet this child still managed to obtain it, load it, and carry it to school is ludicrous. They are covering their own lack of compliance with the law. This whole story is disturbing on so many levels. I hope the teacher recovers quickly and then hires a good Attorney.

[@vikramgupta2326]

Gun was 9 mm, there is no 45 mm caliber fyi. Just a detail, not intended to nitpick

[@LordBaldur]

@@vikramgupta2326 Such calibers exist... in anti-armor weapons.

[@b-rok55]

@@LordBaldur yea, that's what I was gonna say lol 😂 45mm is roughly 1.77 inches, which is way too large for it to be fired from a traditional shoulder fired rifle, so it's definitely not gonna be something that would be able to be fired from a handgun

[@mariaes623]

It's difficult for me to believe that a child with such “disabilities” is allowed in a mainstream school setting! 🤦‍♀️

[@erikred8217]

yep. the dirty game has wiped out the clean one. here comes the crunch.

[@michaelstephens9852]

Parents need to be charged. This is just insane.

[@2Bad4YOUuu]

THANK YOU 💯

[@tinawindham6958]

Absolutely. He traumatized so many innocent children ! His poor teacher was a sitting duck! Omg I’m hoping they arrest and sue the caregiver🙏

[@isitoveryet9525]

We don’t even know how he got the firearm yet lol it’s wild how everyone’s acting like they handed him the firearm, with instructions to target his teacher. What if a friend gave it to him? What if he found it? Where was it was the kid was checked? Plenty of possibilities & considering we have very little info, we should probably wait for more evidence before finding the parents guilty in the court of public opinion.

[@tiredox3788]

@@isitoveryet9525 "What if he found it" literally said the gun belong to the mom.

[@tiredox3788]

It's crazy how people trying to protect the parents.

[@elaineteeter9485]

My friend was a middle school teacher and the students were not allowed to have cell phones in class. When she tried to get the cell phone away from the boy she was attacked so violently she wound up in the hospital. A boy in the class went to her aid and probably saved her life. My friend recovered but never went back to teaching. Something must be done about this. When I was in school (in the 1960s) this was unheard of. I'm amazed that anyone would be a teacher in these days,

[@robinlinn142]

School was terrible for me in the 70's and 80's, but this type of behaviour just did not happen in that time and place.

[@kaseys2004]

Honestly back in the day children were disciplined with spankings. From school and at home. Kids knew to respect their teachers and parents. Today's kids are screwed up bc the whole no one looses concept and no discipline. Kids aren't spanked when they do wrong like throwing, hitting, or yelling. Just so I'm clear i said spank not beat, there is a difference. Kids get away with everything bc someone will call cps or they threaten to do it. Then kids never learn to lose. They are given something with saying everyone's a winner speech. No the kid who busted his butt needs the recognition not little Billy who screwed around and didn't actually work on anything. Plus back then moms were home when kids were. A lot of kids are latch key kids now bc both parents have to work just to survive, so no one is home to give guidance or counsel. Today's kids have the internet and watch others do things so they mimick it. They are spoiled on technology from phones to game consoles.

[@nickkausch1107]

Parents are responsible here. They're lying about how the kid managed to access the firearm.

[@2Bad4YOUuu]

THANK YOU 💯

[@RobL358]

Definitely. Parents are 100% lying and should be charged. Teacher should also sue them civilly for both medical expenses and pain and suffering.

[@GeorgiaJakes7]

Yes ! They said it was secure ?! Obviously not ! If it was secure - then who gave it to him ? I saw the “secure” quote on the news.

[@mamacito1795]

I also wonder about that tip. Maybe it was a kid or maybe a parent flipped out when they realised their gun was missing and know their kid is homicidal. They wouldn't call the police because they wouldn't want their child hurt. Be interesting if that's revealed

[@isitoveryet9525]

a lot of people are responsible for this tragedy. The school also did absolutely nothing to protect their employee, which is a common occurrence unfortunately.

[@shamarlahart685]

Sadly enough, as a current public school teacher of 19 years, I can clearly "see" everything that you described. Students are sometimes treated better than the teachers. We're needed, but they're valued more. As far as the initial report not being reported to the police before the shooting, having a gun on campus is a relation nightmare, so no gun found=no problem, which also equates to nothing to report. I admire her ability to get the other students safely out of the room. I'm sure it was shock. If I were in her position, I would file charges against the child, the parents, the school, the district, etc etc etc. It's not about money. We don't go into teaching for the money, it's about the principle of the situation. If his parents usually have to be present, he should not have been allowed back in that room.

[@sayhello5377]

Absolutely! The parents released a statement along the lines of, “We have always been extremely careful about gun safety,” and I thought, “Yeah, so careful you left a loaded gun where your disturbed 6 year old could get to it…” I hope she files charges against the lot of them. It will send a message loud and clear that teachers are not signing up for the frontline of some battle.

[@michellesims6953]

I agree with every single word you said.

[@eatmanyzoos]

maybe cultures should stop encouraging each other to have as many kids and possible and maybe you, a sensitive person, needs to admit most people should not be allowed to have children and there should be laws preventing them having any power of you. .

[@kristita_888]

Yes to ALL of this. I am a teacher as well. Everything that happened in this first-grade teacher’s classroom happens regularly across the nation. Teachers do not receive adequate support for students who are out of control. We are made to feel that we are the problem. It is not surprising that so many teachers are leaving the profession. Sadly, this affects and leaves behind the students who want to learn.

[@jackiepowell7513]

Staff not supported. Bring on vouchers. Defund doe.

[@cewe2003]

I am an education (kinder teacher) and what makes me the angriest when it comes to cases like this is that the school doesn’t think of the other students in the classroom. This child was allowed to stay in the classroom despite his destructive behavior and threats. How the heck are the other students are able to learn in that kind of environment? And all the school says is to document the behavior, like that is suppose to do something.

[@olilumgbalu5653]

Schools are caught between a rock and a hard place... if they had tried to expel him, the parents would likely have sued the school.

[@mmps18]

This!!!

[@bellamichelle6248]

I don’t understand why he was allowed there with no parents present that day- especially when that was a requirement for him

[@MelindaMc]

What if kid had shot other students?

[@rhyami]

This is exactly why a lot of teachers are leaving the field to do something else. My daughter teaches in public school, and she says she has almost no tools for providing discipline in her class. She also tells me that if she expresses concerns about a student, she is told it’s her fault and she should work harder. She has taught for five years, and she’s strongly considering not signing a contract for next year. I support her decision and will be cheering when she leaves. I never thought I would feel that way about her doing teaching. I was so happy and proud of her when she chose education has her degree in college. I knew she was doing something good and honorable. Now I just want her out of the line of potential fire and away from the constant bedlam that public school classes have become.

[@g.m.5395]

God Bless Her

[@joedennehy386]

She should teach at a private school

[@uyensoldier374]

What about moving abroad and teaching there? There are safer countries out there

[@TheJackal917]

The humanity is fked. But it chose, by its own hands, to get fked. So be it.

[@TheJackal917]

@@uyensoldier374 and bring that mentality that ruined own country elsewhere? Just like those immigrants in europe - they bring with them only chaos and destruction.

[@wendybond2848]

I think the teacher was incredibly brave to put the students’ safety first after she had been shot. The little boy needs a full psych evaluation and his parents have to face the fact he needs help.

[@silentvoiceinthedark5665]

I am very sure the kid has had multiple psych evals.

[@jonathangullett3143]

“Parents” yeah right, more like dead beats. You’ll see when it is released

[@carolnahigian9518]

amen

[@anneflynn9614]

The boy should be removed from his mother.

[@tamitatangoto5134]

I don't know necessarily if brave is the right word for her actions of taking the children out of the classroom. When you're shot wounded or in a car wreck you go into shock immediately. So really she was immediately in shock and a lot of times people in shock do not think they're hurt necessarily.

[@margkropf5541]

Charges against parents need to be filed.Fines. Jail terms. It needs to HURT!!!Maybe this will smarten up these foolish parents.

[@valeriemanuel1346]

Dr. Grande this was very informative. I'm curious why a child exhibiting this type of behavior would not be in a more controlled environment. This begs the question about the school administration at the highest level.

[@LadyKej]

It’s because having too many children in self-contained SPED classrooms doesn’t “look good” for the school district or the state. Many special programs have been shut down, and the kids placed in general education classrooms without the intensive support they so desperately need, leaving the overworked teachers to try to deal with it as best they can.

[@TurkeyFarmerGirl]

I pulled my son out of head start last year, 2 other 5 yr Olds attacked him on a daily basis. His teacher was on camera putting her hands on my son. 6 week Olds to 5 year Olds attend there. My son qualified to attend free of charge due to our income. Headstart in my area is a dumping ground for future criminals.

[@momvanup]

I worked in this district. There are resources for these situations, but it's unlikely the student would be eligible until "less restricting" environments are attempted. Basically they have to step up interventions and at 6 the more intense ones might not be available yet.

[@kristentrep5038]

@@LadyKej yep! Im a special education teacher. (I’m now retired) When I began teaching, we had smaller classes for children who needed a more restricted environment. I understand the need for a less restrictive environment, but not at the detriment of the other children and teachers. Unfortunately, administrators didn’t seem to care that sometimes, some kids can’t be in classes with the other kids. Sometimes, they need a higher level of care. Parents need to be held accountable when a child this young gets ahold of a weapon!

[@hauntedbearchild]

There is clearly something wrong with school systems who do this. It helps no one, including the kids who need controlling.

[@taybee4653]

Listen as a former educator this story literally triggers me. And it’s exactly why I left the field at the end of 2021. I graduated in 2019 and only taught for 2 years. The school never listens when you bring up these alarming behaviors. They always wait until something happens then all the sudden they want to be sorry. That student should’ve been removed from classroom and that student Is not capable of being in a class with other students. He poses a danger to himself his teacher and the other students.

[@paulinequick5634]

There are children in preschool who are a danger to themselves and others children & to teachers. I was a Special Services Aide in a preschool & some children had to be on a modified schedule & even some could only tolerate an hour of school due to a severe mental issue or a behavior problem. There should always be a Teacher's Aide in every classroom to assist the teachers. If one child is disrupting the whole class, then that child should be placed on a modified schedule depending on the severity of the issue.

[@lucyjanecruz]

No one who lives with a mentally unstable person who has expressed a desire to harm themselves or others should have a gun in the home, "secured" or not. And fortunately we have absolute proof that the gun was not adequately secured: a six year old accessed it and used it, so it was not. There is no other option. I say all of this as a gun owner. I am infuriated that the parents are trying to make themselves look anything but recklessly negligent. It is their fault, entirely, that their child had access to that weapon.

[@teijaflink2226]

And probably their fault the child is this damaged too.

[@shelleycharlesworth5177]

@@teijaflink2226 -no doubt...the apple doesn't fall far from the TREE!

[@leegundlach391]

This mother taught this boy racism to hate white people nuts exactly what it was

[@hawkeye5955]

Thank you LucyJane. We need more responsible gun owners like you to call out people who should not have guns, especially around those with mental illness, and I absolutely agree that the parents of the shooter are responsible for not properly securing the gun when they're aware of their child's behavior.

[@jackiepowell7513]

Conversely that child needed discipline before this event.

[@RosieDozie]

The parents of this child should be held accountable.

[@haruuuuu1115]

i used to work in this district. my guess is the school isn’t going to push for it. friends that work in the same district have said (and shared posts) that richneck is asking parents to do thorough checks of bookbags but that’s about it.

[@sylviaowega3839]

It was like that in the old days

[@heather440]

I am an elementary teacher and I have had students like this. I had a student my first year who wanted to lock us in the closet and hear us starve to death. This is not uncommon. My current school, we have several kids EXACTLY like this student. It is beyond frustrating.EDIT TO ADD it’s so sad when one students takes so much time and attention away from the 24 other kids in a class. They deserve attention too. Sometimes when there are very difficult students, the ones who are quiet/well behaved are hurt the most by the chaos that can happen when your teacher has to call the cops to your room and you have to run out because of one very unstable student. The needs of the one over needs of the many.

[@hauntedbearchild]

Why do you think there are so many children like this now?

[@heather440]

@@hauntedbearchild I wish I knew. I PERSONALLY think it’s because so many parents are on drugs/did drugs (maybe while pregnant) even alcohol.

[@haruuuuu1115]

i hear you. Ive had kids like that. i teach 7th grade and i can say that the violence definitely reaches apathy as they get older. they end up not even feeling guilty for their wrongdoings or having a more clear compass of right and wrong. it’s frustrating and terrifying.

[@lisamac8503]

and the school allows them to be there???

[@heather440]

@@lisamac8503 YUP admin does/can do nothing. Even if they are in special Ed, they are still in our classroom for most if not all of the day.

[@bridgettewatson7328]

I left teaching in 2016 and every single day I hear something that just reinforces that I made the right choice.

[@dclaet1135]

I retired in 2020, after teaching thirty years, and I'm still recovering from the stress of that job.

[@peterwolf2031]

We had a kid in my 1st grade in 1967 who would scream and throw desks and even beat up the scariest bully. This kid was a girl. She eventually disappeared and nobody missed her. This needs to happen now. It's not fair to the other students to have these disruptful and dangerous kids in the class. Traumatize twenty kids to indulge one. Great policy.

[@troyhubbler9874]

Sounds like you killed her lol

[@hauntedbearchild]

You are correct. How can children learn under disruptive environments?

[@janmarchand7294]

When my daughter was in 5th grade I went to a parent teacher day at school where the teacher told me how helpful Chloe was. As she went on I realized Chloe was helpful because they had her sit with a special needs child and she would help him calm down and worked on his lessons with him. I was shocked, the boy in question was already about 6 feet tall and had a variety of issues, but he 'liked' Chloe and with her help he was doing so much better. I told the teacher that it really wasn't Chloe's place to help teach this child and that I hoped they would remember that she was a student also and was there to learn, not teach. It shocked me that my daughter was being used to keep this child quiet. They had integrated a lot of special needs children into the regular classes and I wondered just how good of an education my daughter was getting because these children were very disruptive and stole learning time from the regular students.

[@joan-lisa-smith]

@@janmarchand7294 That was me as a kid in foster care. I was the stable level headed kid so even under 10 I would be asked to basically be like a little therapist to disturbed foster siblings. One home would have me find covert ways to ask other kids during play about what kind of abuse went on in their homes (including sex abuse details) and have me report it back to the foster mom so she could tell the social worker to note it and bring it up during their checks. It made me feel trusted and important but once my teens hit I realized how inappropriate it was and how hearing those things shaped me in negative ways. I'm actually not surprised some teachers let kids like your daughter take on that roll to alleviate them, I'm so glad you reframed it for them so they could see what they were actually doing. You shouldn't have to though, anyone working with kids should know enough basic child development, child psychology and have basic common sense to know already!

[@janmarchand7294]

@@joan-lisa-smith My heart goes out to you being in foster care and being exposed to things you shouldn't have been at that age. It was so weird to have that teacher tell me that, like I would be happy about it. I know I looked at her like she was crazy cause she tried to back out of what she had just said. It never entered my mind that a teacher would do something like that.

[@purpleslurple5149]

This sounds exactly like a boy in my child's first grade class last year. My child was "evacuated" several times a week for months when this boy would rage in the classroom--throwing desks and chairs, etc. The teachers weren't allowed to restrain him, due to laws. They weren't allowed to inform us due to privacy--my child would say "He was angry again today" but I had NO. IDEA. how bad it was....I heard from another parent whose child was more talkative months later. He is intelligent enough that they MUST keep him at the regular school, with aides, but he doesn't seem to function well, nor is it working for the children in his class. The school is stuck, due to laws regarding public education access, etc. The parents can't afford or are unwilling to send him somewhere more suited to his needs.... What is anyone to do? My husband said if they still live in the school district in middle school, we're moving, because he's exactly the kind of kid who becomes a school shooter. And now I worry it could be earlier than middle school! It's awful, sad, and frustrating for everyone. I assume he has some sort of Oppositional Defiant disorder. And we live in one of the most affluent and best-rated school districts in the US (just to say if we don't have the resources to help children like this, who does??)

[@Nevermore694]

It seems to me you have the responsibility to remove your child from this environment now, by whatever means necessary. It’s the tolerance of this kind of extreme situation that has been our undoing as a country.

[@behonestwithyourself3718]

I understand the idea of access for education for everyone but not at the expense of the kids and teachers safety. Sounds like that kid needs to be removed. I feel bad for your situation.

[@joedennehy386]

Sue the school for endangering your child, and move him immediately

[@SirenaSpades]

It really isn't the school's job to restrain kids like that. Children this poorly behaved should not be in class with students trying to learn!

[@andygirlll1811]

@@SirenaSpades actually, it is. If the child is mentally ill, disabled or disturbed, the district is required to provide a free an appropriate education. It’s the law.

[@MyDuckSaysFucc]

I work as a camp counselor and last year we had a 7 year old with an autism diagnosis. He was very aggressive with the other children. He kicked and hit them, and so we asked the mom to take him out of our camp. She was furious, said we advertised as “inclusive to special needs” which we are. But we do not make accommodations for kids who feel the need to physically assault other kids. Turned out the mom was a special Ed teacher too. We have animals at our camp, and this kid before the incident also shoved a rooster off a table and laughed about it. I verbally disciplined him and took the animal away. Told him we couldn’t have animals at camp if he was gonna hurt them. This made him upset but his story to him mom was he “dropped” the rooster. And she believed him. I was furious because the camp is actually run by my family so the animals including the rooster are mine. So mom expected us to accommodate for hitting, kicking and animal cruelty for this little shit. I have worked with kids on the autism spectrum, they are often the most lovable children, super smart and they tend to do very well at our camp. This kid was not just showing signs of autism, I think there were some type b personality traits in there. You don’t often see kids hurt animals

[@kelseymathias3881]

Hurting animals by kids is a sure sign the kids are mentally ill...I knew a child who harmed cats...parents ignored him....at age 20 the kid shot himself in the head.

[@granny58]

Just a spoiled kid whose mother makes excuses for him

[@TheMiczzz]

So sad to hear your story. Makes me furious to think about. I don't know, i am no psychiatrist, but it seems like some kids are just plain evil. Can't help thinking what they might become later, a school shooter comes to mind. Thank you for your service to all the good children out there!

[@sylviashaw71]

@@TheMiczzz I feel the same, but I believe they are evil because they are possessed!!

[@Wildflower1555]

There is a strong connection to this child's behavior and murderers and serial killers. A lot of them have started hurting and killing animals before they murdered a person(s).

[@DavidDeeble]

I'm old enough to remember when disciplining schoolchildren was the job of parents, freeing teachers to do their jobs: to teach.

[@user-ic9qm8mb4t]

I also remember the days students viewed teacher with a healthy respectful fear.

[@sharonmoore5580]

I'm old enough to remember when teachers used rulers to pop our hands as a form of discipline. These days, a teacher would be fired in a second.

[@GradyPhilpott]

I'm old enough to remember when teachers had large paddles in their classrooms and would use them on unruly students at the drop of a hat. The coaches in junior high carried rubber straps to whack those who challenged their authority. There weren't any school shootings back in those days.

[@Bebecat477]

I can remember being sent to the principal and actually being whipped with a wooden paddle. Lol. Sure curtailed my next misbehavior.

[@DavidDeeble]

@@Bebecat477 I agree with what others have stated here: if your kid can't go to school without parental accompaniment then your kid shouldn't be allowed at school.

[@kita476]

They blaming this on being absent from class?! Are they insane? Why on earth was he able to get the gun? Charge the parents immediately... Negligence! He coumd have killed multiple people and himself.

[@henryhargraves4184]

One of the main reason I got a general education degree rather than completing my degree is that teachers are the scapegoat for the world's problems it would seem.

[@MM-gd1dw]

Thank you, Dr. Grande. This is an unimaginable situation. How a child who is little more than a baby, can even conceive a shooting, is beyond comprehension.

[@Heyu7her3]

The idea is comprehensible. The enaction of said idea through easy access to weapons is absolutely unacceptable.

[@KytexEdits]

@@brianm7109 Please cease the inhalation of Oxygen, m'guy.

[@110311DONTWANTCHANNE]

i was almost murdered by an 8 year old when I was a kid (10). I beleive he was about 8 years and 3 months. he had been violent as long as I knew him...since he was a toddler.....it happens....i know his father was abusive, but the father was out of the picture by the time he was 2.

[@tzermonkey]

This isn’t the first time this has happened. There was a case a few years back where a nine year old argued with a family member, went inside the families trailer, got a gun and shot his family member. I think it happened in Oklahoma or Texas.

[@brittneybabeee4031]

@@montgomeryfitzpatrick473 What exactly are you trying to insinuate?

[@katehack1677]

SIX YEARS OLD. Intentional, premeditated. So hard to absorb just how sad this is. He's been exposed to some bad things, this isn't just about access to a fire arm. It will no doubt come back to the parents and the environment he was living in.

[@anitaknight3915]

I agree to be that young makes you wonder the environment and parenting he's exposed to. How in the world would a 6 yr old be this out of control and have access to a firearm!!???

[@blaisebaileyfinnegan8202]

Was this a two parent household? I doubt it. Was it a household that has a high investment in raising children? I doubt it. Given the choice between r/K selection, I'd put my money on r.

[@blaisebaileyfinnegan8202]

@Entropy lol this isn't regular life in the US, dude. This is endemic in certain communities, but that's an uncomfortable discussion no one wants to have so we don't.

[@MimiRAM0NE]

@Entropy If that were true, this wouldn't be a unique news story getting lots of attention because it too would be the norm. It's not.

[@robertgiles9124]

It's the kid. PLENTY of kids have bad pareents and situations and do not try murder. He's never going to be ok. Future serial killer, I'd say.

[@Gaia-n8y]

You hit the nail on the head when you said that teachers are in a difficult situation ......... I am a teacher and the Administration is not interested in supporting teachers, but in increasing their numbers and pleasing parents. Parents believe that teachers are their enemies and that their children are angels. The Administration blames the teachers, the parents blame the teachers. On top of that, every day we are given more responsibilities with less resources and no help. Once a parent sent me an email listing the ways I should manage my class, while the principal was too preoccupied making rounds and yelling at the teachers he found sitting at their desks resting for a while. Another time he called a staff meeting after class and five minutes or so into the meeting, he locked the door to the gym (which was where the meeting was being held) so that teachers who weren't there couldn't get in. I couldn't go in because I needed to drink water after having been teaching for three consecutive periods before the staff meeting. I think something has to change, otherwise it is not very promising.

[@TheUnofficialMaker]

sounds like ebay

[@Tamarind525]

So the student has a learning plan where the parents are in school with him every day. Yet the student is frequently found wandering around the school unsupervised during class time? And the 9mm had the safety on, but somehow the 6 year old was able to disable this, rack the slide, and shoot the teacher? What is going on in that child’s home?

[@Tindometari]

I doubt he needed to rack the slide. If the parents were irresponsible enough to lead a loaded pistol unsecured and accessible to a 6-year-old known to be violently disturbed, I take it on faith that there was already a round chambered.

[@surrealsteph]

RIGHT?!?! WTF were the parents doing while their child wasn’t in the classroom, roaming about? Those parents should have been on top of his every move! And WTF did they even have a gun in the house? They knew damn well their son is troubled/has serious mental issues!

[@literaryvan6143]

I teach in this school division and have received more information from teachers who work in the school. The boy put the gun in his coat and took it to recess. He showed it to multiple students and when they returned to the classroom, they told the teacher. She called administrators so that’s why they searched his backpack. They failed to search his coat or his person for fear of violating his rights. When teachers leave early for a sickness, etc. they will place the teacher’s students in the other teacher’s classrooms if there is not a substitute available for that class. That could explain the teacher sometimes having additional students. Teachers go through a lot more than the public realizes, and do it mostly alone with little to no support.

[@hauntedbearchild]

He's a six-year old minor. Last time I looked his rights should only be under an adult. If the law has changed that's insane. If being under the age of 7 for accountability is a law then he also has no adult rights of his own and is considered an infant under the law.

[@TraceyRenee1]

So true. I sub and teachers do not get paid enough for what they have to put up with. So many kids are SO disrespectful. It actually makes me nervous to discipline them for fear they might do something like this to retaliate.

[@sharonmoore5580]

I know I'm living in an apocalypse. They didn't search his coat for fear of violating his rights?!?!

[@vbrown6445]

@@sharonmoore5580 They didn't search his body/person for fear of being sued by parents, who are always quick to accuse school employees of child abuse (sexual and physical). It's also why teachers don't hug students anymore and maintain physical distance from them. It is the world we live in.

[@Em-df4ww]

It's as if they didn't believe the kids who reported seeing the gun, otherwise why would they have have given up after the search of the backpack. He should have been pulled out of class and the police called. I can't believe the negligence, ineptitude and lack of common sense shown by the administrators. Thank goodness the teacher survived her injuries and no one else was shot. This country has gone bonkers.,

[@frankkurgan2792]

As a law enforcement officer if we are contacted about there possibly be an armed student at a school we usually detain the student and contact the parents to have them check the last location they kept their weapon. If law enforcement had been contacted we most likely would have retrieved the weapon before the incident because even if he had another student hold the firearm for him because he thought he might get searched we would have verified with the parents that the firearm is missing so we would know that he hit it somewhere or has a friend holding it for him.

[@lindasimons691]

Unless the officers were frightened and hid down the hallway.

[@erickanew]

Exactly what I said. At our school student would've been detained, and it would've been a huge lockdown. It's not normal for another 6 year to say a 6 year old had a gun

[@joedennehy386]

His posession of the gun proves that it was loaded, unsecured and had no trigger lock.

[@SleeepyZzZ]

This story is equally heartbreaking and so disturbing. Those poor children that witnessed this and what the teacher went through..I hope they get the support they need

[@birdlover6842]

They better get help. The poor kids must be scared. I hope things get better. A sad situation.

[@TurkeyFarmerGirl]

The sub said 25 to 30 students. So 24 to 29 students have to suffer cause ONE child is an ass? Yank that kid out and lock his ass up, thats where he is heading anyway. Why should my, or your child be traumatized due to one kid? The mother was supposed to be at school with the kid everyday. She don't show, the kid goes home. That's it.

[@laurenmay2098]

If they didn’t helped the teacher to do something about the kid, do you think they will get psychological help to the others to go on? Sweet dreams on that, it is sick to see how money goes to wars out of this country, but the citizens get nothing to deal with domestic problems.

[@sharonmoore5580]

Agree. So traumatic. This will change them for the rest of their lives.

[@dolorestroeller4734]

Yet the hoops they will jump through for this one’s rights will be absurd ,while all the innocent ones rights are trampled upon 🤬that!

[@vhondasorganizedchaos]

That poor little kid, feeling hate that intense at 6 yrs old. What will his life be like? So sad.

[@callalilly1988]

This is extremely disturbing. In the past 30 years we've seen unspeakable acts committed by those that are supposed to be innocent. I never forget the 11 and 13 year old boys who murdered a toddler. There was a boy who recently killed his own mother for not buying him something. Something has gone desperately wrong with our society.

[@SirenaSpades]

Lack of parenting

[@rockyevans1584]

You're just aware of them because of the more widespread media coverage. This shit was happening and the news never carried it beyond locals prior. Statistically speaking we are still in the safest age ever, and violence is trending downward. Get out of your feelings, they really distort these situations and our resulting view

[@2Bad4YOUuu]

@@SirenaSpades YePp. Folks are leaving all the parenting to someone else these days. There is NO LOVE in that circumstance. 💔

[@crestfire8008]

What has gone wrong is accusing discipline as "abuse". Monitoring your kids internet activity is not "abuse". Kids that young do not need 100% privacy that parents have no idea who and what they are talking to online. Also the fact that parents give their kids technology to keep them occupied

[@trickolas78]

Teachers are overpaid and only work 9 months a year. What other job allows that level of laziness?

[@cottontails9003]

What a horror story. The parents and the school dropped the ball on that one. I admire the teacher was a hero for getting the other children too safety. I believe the school and parents should have some consequences. Thank you Dr Grande. Brilliant analysis and informative topic.

[@janpierzchala2004]

This boy seems very dangerous already at 6, a crime genius in the making, I would look for solution...Or soon you will commend some other teacher etc

[@cottontails9003]

@@janpierzchala2004 Thank you Jan I completely agree.

[@johnc2438]

Actually, they dropped the gun on that one!

[@cottontails9003]

@@eatmanyzoos In my comment I said the parents need consequences for their actions.

[@ppixilation]

With regard to the attitude of parents; I'm in the UK, and did two horrible years as a supply teacher, substitute teacher in the US, and the attitude of many parents was summed up by one mother stating that she had always told her children to "stand up to teachers"........Huge numbers of children are specifically taught by their parents to have no respect for any kind of authority.

[@leahr9038]

Yeah, its disgusting!

[@granny58]

Yup

[@Throatzillaaa]

Are you teaching in the UK? I'm curious if you think schools in the UK have the same or similar issues.

[@judithcoe7551]

I'm sure the parents of the other children are very concerned about their Safety. If I was the teacher I would not go back to this school. Very traumatizing. This child should not be allowed back in this school. Parents need to be held accountable. School needs to be held accountable. Thank you Dr Grande!🎈🎊 So sad. I am glad the teacher survived.

[@trinitylane2202]

I don't think he should be allowed back into any school. I know I wouldn't want to be his teacher or have a child in the same classroom. He doesn't have any problem trying to murder someone he doesn't like.

[@2Bad4YOUuu]

@@trinitylane2202 My thoughts exactly 💯 🤯 "Y'all can keep your kid n' home school him... M'kaayy?"

[@Catlily5]

@@2Bad4YOUuu I know a teacher that travelled to students homes to give them lessons. Some of those kids were murderers.

[@cathichristian4142]

@@trinitylane2202 I agree. I am certainly not an expert but I believe that some people are born sociopaths. This kid may be one of them. It is so very unusual for a child to want to set their teacher on fire and watch them die. Something is very wrong with that child and he should be locked up in a mental hospital before he successfully kills someone. In a city near me, a child was simply walking to class and a homeless man stabbed her to death totally unprovoked. We have mentally ill that are allowed to live on the streets in filth and not getting the care they need to protect themselves and others.

[@sharonmoore5580]

I hear you, but if they were so concerned for their safety, how on earth was this child able to gain possession of THEIR handgun?

[@isostasique]

I NEVER thought I could feel aversion against a 6 year old, and yet here we are.

[@jori7398]

Yep, here we are. The world has gone mad and it seems that psychos are everywhere.

[@kimwhatmatters4085]

@@user-account-not-found what are you talking about ??? What’s the difference between at 6 yr old and a 60 yr old besides the fact the 60 had faced whatever the 6 yr old had faced in tenfold. As far as personality& morals basically your core fiber you are who you are by 5yrs old. You’re either for a punitive punishment or not. If so we should abolish prison and have only rehab. If we’re not going to that model I don’t get how a 6 yr old is some how wayyy less cognizant than a seven year old. If they can try a 14/15/16/17 yr old as an adult why can’t they charge a 6 yr old as a 7 yr old ge shot someone!!! We gotta keep the consistent or we’re just ruining lives just to do it we don’t actually believe punishment helps keep society structured and builds or protect the greater good.

[@kellyhughes5438]

I had a similar situation. Thank God the child "only"destroyed my room and threatened to kill me, all my requests for help went unanswered by administrators. They hid the incident from the parents but my brave first graders told their parents the truth

[@debbiethompson14]

I used to be a preschool teacher and whenever you called the front desk to get help, they tell you, you're a professional handle it!!! My question is why are these children even put in the classroom with regular kids? We spent all our time trying to control that child in the other kids don't are cheated out of it and education. I just took a course on substitute teaching but I've since changed my mind

[@granny58]

They're worse to substitutes

[@chrissyellem7397]

I was a substitute teacher in the 90's. Please find another field to go into. You will be treated like gum on the bottom of a shoe.

[@mjesns77]

are schools allowed to kick a child out? like expel them?

[@debbiethompson14]

@Maliem88 Yes, but they RARELY do! However, if a lot of parents complain and threatened to withdraw their children, then they may consider kicking the child out of school periods all about the money it's not about the well-being of the children.

[@thatvalensteingirl]

@@mjesns77 Expulsion is viewed as an extreme last resort.

[@tiffbeevachou108]

You are 100% spot on about parents getting enraged about consequences at school and the kids running the school is exactly what ehat happens. Parent your dang kids! The rest of the world has to deal with them for their entire lives.

[@AbstractM0use]

Not only did my parents not get mad at teachers for trying to discipline me, if I got spanked at school, the teacher would call and tell my parents why I got spanked, and I'd get a spanking from my Dad for getting spanked at school.

[@judithsloan8617]

Student behavior is out of control in schools across the country. What you said, Dr. Grande, about parents whose children have been disciplined wanting the teachers fired is accurate. It's one of the top reasons teachers are leaving the profession. I retired 4 years ago because of the lack of administrative support.

[@TheUnofficialMaker]

spare the rod, spoil the child

[@erickanew]

Yeah all our teachers quit. They have any and everyone teaching. The kids are worst since after covid. The parents don't care

[@NJMelissa]

I worked in a pre school (ages 2-6) for 5 years and I observed at least SIX children displaying similar behaviors. I've seen things thrown across the room, I've actually had a child tell me he wanted to stab me in the stomach, a little girl told me she wanted to light all the teachers on fire, another child picked up a chair and threw it, a boy stomped on another little boys stomach, the list goes on and on. These are very young children and I found that even when the parents were notified, more times than not, they were in denial of their child's behavior and/or blaming the school. It's actually very scary; the school had its hands tied and we as teachers were literally not even allowed to say no to the kids let alone discipline them. Dr Grande is right; discipline is needed both in schools at home and parents need to really pull their heads from their ass. If your child is displaying antisocial behaviors they need help in the form of a professional.

[@NJMelissa]

@@user-account-not-found every single one. For some reason those children naturally gravitated towards me and I always accepted them and sat with them, held their hand while they cried, helped them breathe to calm down, talked to them. Specifically, the child who told me he wanted to stab me in the stomach, he was a child I felt very close to. He would often say things like that to me and I would be surprised and ask why he would say a thing like that, he has no idea why. He needed help, which was reported to the office and the parents spoken to. As far as I know, he never got any. There was only ever one child I could not reach emotionally, I tried but he was too violent and once he started it was impossible for me to calm him down. We would have to wrangle the other 28 students and remove them from the classroom so nobody gets hurt. I also hate to break it to you, but there will ALWAYS be someone who feels left out. You literally cannot force children to include everyone, try as we may, there are some people in general who do not fit in and I've seen it in kids as young as 3. They have trouble fitting in and start to lash out, further isolating themselves. I think if you really want to help those kids, THEY are the ones who need help to better adapt themselves to a group (doesn't have to be the whole group but they need some good qualities to make people accept them) so that other children and peers will want to be around them. I'm an adult and if another adult displays frightening tendencies, it stirs up an actual anxiety in my stomach to be around them. You cannot expect children to be able to ignore their own protective instincts just to make people feel included.

[@trustmemysonisadoctor8479]

@@NJMelissa Unfortunately with some mental health issues and personality disorders all the love and acceptance will not help, they need serious residential treatment for every ones protection.

[@NJMelissa]

@@trustmemysonisadoctor8479 I also agree with you on that, however, to not even try or acknowledge the problem (as in the parents or caregivers) isn't helping either. What is the age limit to admit a child for long term care in a facility? I know a lot of doctors and psychoanalysts are wary to label children with psychopathic tendencies, sociopathic tendencies, etc so I can't imagine they would even suggest putting them away somewhere where they can be monitored. I think the old "hope they grow out of it" applies a lot in these circumstances and, as we know from true crime and serial killers, murderers etc...maybe that's not the best solution.

[@trustmemysonisadoctor8479]

@@NJMelissa Back in the early 1980's I worked at a residential treatment facility, the youngest person there at the time that I know of was 6. This child was extremely violent they had a large male one on one to control them and protect the other residents. I agree there needs to be better education available to parents/caregivers but some do not care and others cannot physically handle their child's violent outbursts. I agree that to "hope they out grow it" is not the best idea, I have no answers other than society needs to protect the public at large from dangerous violent people irrelevant of their age.

[@NJMelissa]

@@trustmemysonisadoctor8479 I agree with you 100%.

[@user-on8wz1dt9g]

The parents stayed with the child at school to help with his behavior? When did this start? That’s utter craziness!

[@swedishmeatball4382]

We had a case where the mom went to school with her daughter. The daughter (let's call her Ella) had been skipping classes for quite a while. Our principal used his breaks to search for her; he was deeply worried because she left school to go drink with a bunch of middle aged drunk dudes in public places. Absolutely not a crowd you want a teenage girl to get involved with. Anyway, we had this national standard test and I was in charge of Ella's class. There was a break between two parts in the test, and I was quite surprised to find out that Ella had disappeared during the breaks. These tests were A Big Deal with mandatory attendance, and vanishing in the middle of it was unheard of. So, Ella's mom went to school with her after that to make sure she didn't skip away to hang with her drunk "friends".

[@MF-ty2zn]

The child has autism spectrum disorder.

[@nursetinalouise]

How is it craziness? As the parent I am far more responsible for my child than the school and have attended with my kids.

[@sayhello5377]

If they had to attend school with him, then why wouldn’t they just pull him out and homeschool him?

[@haruuuuu1115]

@@sayhello5377 if it’s an accommodation in his IEP then the least restrictive environment is for sure not a public school. a lot of people forget that an IEP is to help the child readjust to typical life and eventually be weaned off most of the significant accommodations if possible. if the child can’t attend school without a parent then they need one-on-one or to be homeschooled.

[@CheapsKate77]

I've had several students who have thrown things, furniture, hit other kids, yelled constantly, left the classroom, etc. And teachers have to deal with it for at least 6 weeks while you observe and document to then request testing for an IEP. It's insane.

[@javeydones5163]

I’m no doctor but I gotta say. Violence of this level at this age is not something that’s likely to go away. If this kid is allowed to avoid consequences for this and grows up free, I guarantee he’s gonna try to kill more people. Something like this doesn’t just go away. If I’m wrong, just show me a single case like this where the child was reformed and had no further incidents.

[@Catlily5]

There is a girl named Mary Bell in the UK. She killed 2 children at age 10. They gave her a lot of treatment and she was apparently rehabilitated .

[@vante2129]

This is an over exaggeration he's fuckin 6 that child can definitely be rehabilitated his brain isn't even fully developed yet remove him from that environment.

[@rogerm3708]

I lived in a neighborhood with a 5 year old that only wanted to cause harm. Myself and other children regularly tormented him because it was the only way we knew how to manage him because his parents had no interest in correcting him. I heard that he was in and out of juvenile detention and went to prison as an adult

[@valrose6083]

@@Catlily5 not only did she kill two other children younger than her, she tortured them as well. Apparently when she was rehabilitated as an adult she was able to go on living a normal life.

[@wagashi]

@@Catlily5 I don't think they'll give this kid a lot of treatment to rehabilitate him in the US, unfortunately, given that any kind of healthcare is a luxury

[@Paysoncougarfan.7885]

After a 23 year military career, I retired to teach High School mathematics in the inner city. During the 7 years in the inner city I had one gun incident in the classroom, one knife fight, I was assaulted twice, and observed unbelievable miss deeds.There was zero administrative support, students ran the institution with no respect of the other students or teachers. I finally transferred to the suburbs and fished a rewarding 20 year career teaching math.

[@reycesarcarino4653]

The System is literally Juking Stats

[@rahrahrah8405]

Those kids are out of control animals.

[@wot4me2]

You are amazing. I cannot imagine spending 7 years teaching inner city high school, even with 23 years of military training. Single parent homes, absent fathers, children left to raise themselves with many ending up in the criminal justice system- what could go wrong? I'm glad you were able to get out and end on a good note.

[@Paysoncougarfan.7885]

@@wot4me2 There we’re some hidden diamonds in the inner city, kids that would do well in any environment, they kept me going.

[@cherdevine59]

The kiddo's parents must be held accountable to the maximum the law will provide.

[@StormyAfterDark]

That teacher should get an award for how she calmly got those other kids out of the room and to safety. That 6 year old boy is super frightening, I'm sorry to say. He had to learn it from somewhere.

[@TSUNAMI-MAMI]

Yea she’s surely not getting paid enough to deal with little shits that plan to shoot her

[@brianm7109]

She should get the god damn medal of honor

[@JaMeshuggah]

"that 6 year old is super frightening" The loss of control and the world you've helped create are super frightening. Wonder who keeps shootings on television all the time..

[@emilyk9388]

And the teacher’s assistant taking control of the child! Very brave.

[@Jim-d2q]

he is super brave not the teacher lol, she must have been a bully

[@TK-dx1nh]

I'm now 60+ YO. I recently retired early from mental health nursing. We faced very similar dangers and chaos while often understaffed, trying to care for psychotic and often violent patients . Fiscal concerns and public perception was always more of a priority with administration than staff safety. I thank god I am old enough to be retired. One day, in the not so distant future, teachers and nurses will become scarce. No-one in their right mind will choose these professions.

[@Monkeyboysdontknow]

@@user-account-not-found Actually, that's pure political priorities, just as in ANY system. It hasn't always been this way in this country. Other systems of government can just quietly make the problem go away... permanently - for the betterment of society, of course.

[@TiptonMama]

Trust me, I'm actively trying to convince my 16 yo that she doesn't want to become a teacher. Her school counselor thinks she'd be an excellent teacher, but agrees with me she's too high energy and would burn out quickly, especially in college, if she's not challenged enough. She's conspiring with me to keep her in looking where her aptitude tests (and her lifelong passions) have been leading her.

[@juneyshu6197]

And cops and paramedics!

[@gretchenhughes9652]

I was a RN. Glad I am retired. You are absolutely correct. A nurse on my shift received a broken jaw by a patient who had assaulted his parents prior to be admitted to the Critical Care Unit for Psychiatric evaluation. Our unit was for Cardiac & critically ill patients. We were not equipped for handling these type patients, yet administrators felt like they could be watched closer. He was male & the whole staff female ages from 26-50. A cardiac patient witnessed the assault from her room as when he hit the nurse she was knocked out into the hall. The patient had chest pain out of fear that he would get loose & start attacking everyone. Glad I am out of the jungle, too. No amount of money could make me go back.

[@TK-dx1nh]

@@gretchenhughes9652 I feel the same! I worked on a medium secure forensic unit in a Mental Health Center for 22 yrs. Sadly, I experienced countless of similar incidents. HR was not on our side. If not for our amazing union, I could have lost my licence for defending myself on more than one occasion. And some excellent nurses did. disgusting. So relieved to be out!!!

[@sharondowling8896]

I know someone who teaches public school in the same geographic area as this case. She has seen horrifying behavior by parents- physically fighting on school grounds with each other- and has so many students that have parents designated with "no contact allowed" or are living with relatives other than their parents, or are in the care of just one parent, etc. And then the issue of communicating with parents about behavior problems or academic failings- the fact that the KIDS have openly spoken about trying to get teachers fired that they don't like- all adds up to chaos. Administrators are not supportive of teachers, being more worried about test scores and keeping parents off their backs. The constant testing. The problems related to constant cell phone use and abuse. The addiction to social media. Having 7th and 8th graders arriving to class drunk or high. Our public schools are a reflection of the society providing the students! This particular student sounds like a candidate for an exorcism, however! And while I am not diagnosing anyone at this point(!) his actions certainly seem psycho or sociopathic! I cannot imagine this child ever NOT being a danger to himself or others. Bottom line, however, is that every person in that school is being held hostage to the needs of the student in question. Administration did nothing to alleviate the chaos in the classroom, or the rest of the school. If the student had a "plan" that included the necessary attendance of a parent everyday, why was he allowed to attend without a parent?? Why was the teacher told to "drop it" when desperately seeking help from Administrators?! What a mess!! We are turning out graduates who cannot read, or think, or handle basic math- just to keep up appearances? But they can all access their apps, and use inappropriate ones with ease! Sigh.....thank you for filling in many pertinent details in this case. Sheds more light on this particular situation, even if that light shows the deeper problems present! Can you examine the case of our current rage filled, mass shooting happy, hate propelled and ignorant society? I am seeking insight! And solutions!

[@juneyshu6197]

Thank you for caring. It troubles me, our society losing morals and values, and yes, faith.

[@delicatelace8830]

My son went to public school, at one point we took him out. Attended Catholic school for 2 years. Went back for 3 years, then graduated,this was in the late 1990's. Today I believe there is no reason to send your precious child to any public school anymore, home schooling is the a answer.

[@kaiyakershaw1028]

@@delicatelace8830 homeschooling is a great solution for some children and families, but it’s not the right choice for many. Do we want the parents of children who are out of control, throwing furniture, and threatening teachers to be in charge of preparing that child educationally and emotionally to be a productive citizen? It seems that if they’re not able to handle the child in the afternoons and evenings outside of school hours, adding more time that they’re solely responsible for the child’s care would not be a great idea. Plus, schools are where the majority of child abuse cases are first identified and reported. If everyone was responsible for educating their own children at home with no safeguards against parents who abuse their child(ren), we would end up with more child fatalities and many more who grow up maladjusted and perpetuate the behavior when they have children. There are plenty of parents who aren’t abusers who still aren’t good candidates for primary educator of their children.

[@kaseys2004]

@@byuftbl I'm a single parent but i had help from my parents which I'm thankful for. She is graduating in a month and has done amazing. The problem is also no discipline or feeling loved. I think absentee fathers should be held more accountable. They make kids and leave the moms to deal with them. Yeah there are crappy moms I'm not saying that there aren't. Just there less father figures than there used to be. If some men could start being held responsible (instead of just a monthly contribution) first raising their children some if this might decrease. Yet in this case that gun was not secure bc he either knew where the key was to the gun lock or it was never locked to begin with. It should have been in a safe since he had mental issues. He shouldn't have been in a normal classroom. He should have had a specialized class bc he is hindering his classmates. Kids with special needs should have the right to school that is designed for them. Now I feel if u have a gun in your home it should be locked up or at least teach your kid gun safety (if they r mentally sound.) Being from the south guns are normal here, there's constant hunting. My child was taught gun safety very young. She knew never to touch or if she was holding never to aim at anyone. She has been to gun ranges and knows how to clean, load, and fire a weapon. With the way the world is going and how some men can't understand the word no i admit i want her licensed to carry, yet her joining the National Guard i know she will be. Not all single parent homes are bad just there's lots of failing going on. You have to work to survive but you are given crap for working bc your kid is alone, it can be a lose lose situation.

[@Casinogirl56]

If he was special needs so much he had to be accompanied by a parent, why was he mainstreamed, or allowed in class without said parent?

[@lupemora6266]

I think it was George Bush with his "no kid left behind" legislation.

[@victorialavenderasmr]

He obviously has some severe behavior and emotional problems. It still does not excuse what he did. He went to school with a loaded gun to intentionally murder his teacher.

[@Clone42]

To enrich the classroom with aneurotypical diversity.

[@rockyevans1584]

Whoever searched the kid should also be reprimanded. Outsmarted by a 6 yo? You aren't up to your jobs responsibilities. For shame

[@awesomemaddy]

Ex middle school teacher here-I had a student in my class one year who had some behavior issues. Mostly he was just disruptive and liked to cause trouble. I had to constantly move him to new seats or send him to the dean. One day he was on a mission to disrupt the class. I gave him a verbal warning. The classmates seated next to him heard him say under his breath that he was going to ‘kill me’ if I moved his seat again. After class was over, those students told me what he had said. I of course reported it to my Principal right away. The Principal told me that the boy didn’t mean it and that it wasn’t a big deal, but that he did tell the boy to come say he was sorry to me. I never saw the boy again. His parents pulled him from the school and moved away from what I heard.

[@kelseymathias3881]

Been this way for decades...school administrators do nothing. Back in the 60s a delinquent terrorized our class. 50 years later I heard that he had gone into the army where he committed crimes and then did time in Leavenworth Prison. When he got out he was shot to death in a bar fight at age 40 . I must admit I cheered.

[@lildoodle6081]

Good on those kids for feeling comfortable enough to go to you and tell you what he said. We need to keep encouraging our children to tell adults if they hear/see something concerning.

[@lindathurston462]

Excellent observation Dr. Grande. I taught for 16 years in the capacity of a specialist, so I would see every student in the school at least once a week for approximately 30 minutes. And yes, unfortunately there were some that seemed likely headed in the direction of the six year old in this case. The lack of support that classroom teachers (and specialists) receive from administrators in many cases is deplorable. Students are not disciplined at home, their parents may or may not have been, and everything is left to the teachers, including the academics, music and physical education! A very sad state of affairs indeed.

[@g.m.5395]

*YES*

[@birdlover6842]

Very sad and sickening.

[@SamS-uv2ql]

Must have been a really small school. Are you sure it wasn't a day care?

[@anitaknight3915]

You're so correct Linda!!! Teachers, counselors, and social workers are being unsupported and failed by administration with little to no support or funding. It's a mess from every angle with mental health and education system failure because many students severe behavioral issues, have home life issues/lack of consistent discipline from parents and no coping skills.

[@moonfall8972]

@@SamS-uv2ql *Listen to the video again.

[@dodgermaven]

I'm a teacher, and Abigail is an unfortunate victim of the toxic environment of which we are working. This environment needs to change.

[@stewshack8021]

Why hasn’t the media produced pictures of the parents and their social media history. If the parents dont get charged we can at least ridicule them.

[@jonoharper4729]

Seems like Abigail has all the elements and evidence in her favour for a massive civil lawsuit against the school.

[@keikei1943]

She should sue the parents

[@kimberlykay1614]

Parents are responsible for this child’s actions. They should be arrested and fined.

[@lisaperry5999]

Yes and in most places,they are held accountable for their children's truancy so definitely in this case.

[@MH-ds8cb]

Absolutely! So should the school officials who failed to respond to this threat of violence. They are lying when they say this child was searched. They likely didn’t believe the report that the child had a gun and did nothing!

[@claudiagaglio8592]

Well said, Dr. Grande. I’m a teacher and live this every day… lack of support, parents backlash when even letting them know their child made a bad choice during the day. I wish the public really knew our daily struggles

[@TheUnofficialMaker]

this is startling to me. I do know of a young lady that was doing her student teaching in a high school and she had a wreck coming back from lunch and the kids expressed that they wish she had been killed. Such a sorry state of American Public Schools. No wonder we are in this messs.

[@andthen0170]

I feel for the children who were in the room. So sad.

[@KarlaAkins1]

When teachers ask for help they are labeled as bad classroom managers and marked low on evaluations.

[@annal7364]

This is how it is in public education now. I’ve been in the game 12 years and it’s not pretty most of the time. Teachers are unsupported and then blamed by administration. Teachers get cussed out and beaten up by students and those kids go back to class five minutes later with a lollipop in their mouth for talking about their feelings. 🙄 I no longer call for help. I just run my own discipline and it’s the only thing that works. My kids are sweethearts and do an excellent job in class. Don’t call admin for help because they don’t help because they don’t care. Thanks for being a voice for us, Dr. G!!

[@Americans4Israel4Ever]

Parents should be charged and the administrator who could have prevented this. I'll never send my kids to public schools.

[@Heynmffc]

Charging admin isn’t going to help. All it will do is set a President that admins call someone else to take the liability (SRO/cop). Sometimes delaying a response for places without on-site sros.

[@denischabriddell986]

@@Heynmffc Why shouldn't the administrators not be charged they have been playing kick the can down the road for quite sometime it seems they are as much to blame as the parents.

[@amyspeers8012]

I was a school nurse for over 10 years before moving abroad. I would help write plans for students like this one. Not once was a parent to accompany their child to class. Why was this student not appropriately supported? Was a general education classroom not the appropriate placement? Why was the decision made to not have the parent attend when the student had made a death threat to the teacher? I have so many questions. Thank you for your analysis.

[@helenm6732]

If the severity of the situation required one of his parents to accompany him to school, maybe he should have been mandatorily home schooled with a teacher available via Zoom to advise/support the parent.

[@iettord3124]

The kid was most likely over supported from very early age. Helicopter parents and a school too weak is probably the case. No one setting borders or giving him consequences for bad behavior. If not socialized from very early age human as well as other social animals develop into monsters. Happens all over the western world now days. Parents from generation X and onward don't know how to raise kids properly. A pandemic of narcissistic personal disorder is one result of this problem. Pardon my spelling, england is not my nativ nose. Cheers from Sweden.

[@jessicaolson490]

@@iettord3124 you do realize psychos come from every generation... Go back far enough and it was public entertainment to watch people publicly executed.

[@jessicaolson490]

I'm wondering why the parents were discharged from their duty to be with the child if he was still out of control, and if he was wandering the school without somebody attending to him chronically but his parents were at school with him where were they? The fact that they had a student's parent required to be at school up until a week before this tells me that they required the discipline that only a parent can enforce (whereas the school official can only use words to cajole and try to convince). As a kid, in middle school, one of the students had his mom attend for about half a year. But he wasn't dangerous, he just get up to all kinds of trouble, with Mom sitting in the back of the classroom he's quiet as a mouse and paying attention without her even having to intervene, she just had to sit there reading her book. He grew up normal but needed a little extra authority to keep on task in school. (Pretty sure he was ADHD or Asperger's type autism, or both). He would literally taunt and throw words at the bigger kids until they'd end up beating him up, and then they'd get into trouble for bullying.

[@butwhytho4858]

@@iettord3124 can’t completely disagree with u, but being overly supported wasn’t the main issue here. My mothers been an upper element librarian for almost 20 yrs now, after having taught elementary ELA. I also have an aunt that is a speech pathologist in TN, another aunt who’s a HS librarian, and another who’s a retired middle School counselor; not one of them across many diff states have ever heard of a parent being allowed to attend. Not just allowed but REQUIRED to attend (except for that day I guess???) No doubt somethings not quite right at home, but it could also be genetics at play. Whatever the reason is, this isn’t a simple case of overly supporting a kid. That usually shows up much later in life if that were the case. This one either had something massively wrong going on at home, and/or was born missing some key functionality that the average kid gets such as empathy etc. There’s never just a single culprit. I want to blame the parents immediately, but I also don’t know why the mom bought a gun… Was it because she was scared of her kid? Did they live in a bad neighborhood? Just way too many questions still unanswered to make such a matter of fact statement imho 🤷🏻‍♀️

[@rerite2]

What's done to children, they do to the world. -- Albert Schweitzer, MD.

[@brandybarnett9953]

While I totally see the benefits of inclusion for children with special needs, it has gone too far in the wrong direction. When I was in school, they had special classes and even schools for kids with severe behavior problems and emotional disturbances with the individual trained attention that they need. It was way easier to get this help for kids. When they did better, they could go back to a regular class. These services are now extremely hard to get because they exclude kids from the regular classroom.

[@krissteel4074]

It still exists here in Australia for kids that come from some kind of problem background and have social or learning problems as a result. My sister taught those classes along with part of her psych degree and unlike a lot of people here who can't believe 6 year olds can shoot people- oh, they'll shoot or stab you all right given half a chance! Its literally prison rules in a lot of cases, you work with another trainee or temp staff, its hands off discipline and you'll probably be using a false name. But you're going to get death threats on at very least a weekly basis and probably have something hurled at you once in a while. Needless to say, that job has a fairly limited lifespan because you literally cannot tolerate that kind of shit for very long. Most of it stems back from the parent(s) as is pretty rare there's more than 1 involved. They drink and take drugs all through pregnancy, live in some sort of squalid existence and more than likely there will be some systemic abuse along the way from their immediate carers, so you get monsters out the other end. Life's pretty tough as-is for a lot of kids and we're not talking about the little stuff like a minor learning disorder that means they maybe get a lot of C's and D's on the report. We're talking the big stuff like coming out with a well developed anti-social personality disorder and extremely violent predilections as part of their 'learning' most of the time before they're 10.

[@kathybates1751]

No have you not heard. In America there is no logic anymore. Now wrong is right.

[@fredajordan5704]

@@krissteel4074 I can only agree fully, you nailed it!!

[@vladimirputindreadlockrast812]

It's unfair to the other children. It's like saying, "We can't raise his standards, so we will lower everybody else's."

[@bcyes409]

Depends on the state. I live in NY state, there are special ed classes and para professional with the children

[@LaniLanilei]

Good evening Dr Grand. I'm glad the 25 year old teacher lived through this very unfortunate incident. It's shocking. A 6 year old! Amazing, she continues to look after the children removing them out of harms way. Is there any place that is safe.

[@LaniLanilei]

@Danny Miller yes you may

[@brittneybabeee4031]

@@LaniLanilei Be careful. Sounds like Mr. Miller’s account is trying to run a scam.

[@LaniLanilei]

Thank you. Well he met the wrong person to do that.

[@virginiamoss7045]

It's not just the 6-year-old that presents a conundrum for society. We have yet to answer, "What do we do with all the mentally ill people out there, homeless and unable to care for themselves?" My state has washed their hands of them, determining that it's wrong for them to be detained in a mental institution; it infringes on their rights. So they live as best and as long as they can on the streets or in other difficult circumstances for themselves and for those they impact. It's the same unanswered question, 6 years old or 60 years old.

[@nataliemauzone4689]

I taught elementary school for Newport News Public Schools for 6 years. I've always been an advocate for the systems approach to the safety of their employees, families and communities. In past 5 years or so with school districts across the country , teacher's voices are not always considered, parents seem to have control over administrators and teacher's dont have the support of leaders. Unfortunately, it seems as if no matter the situation, the teacher face the consequences, it's their fault and the families come out on top.

[@benjamindover4337]

What is a "systems approach "?

[@nataliemauzone4689]

@Benjamin Dover Professional Developments on strategies/practices on behavioral discipline programs and preventions. School- wide behavioral programs that promote positive behavior incentives, family engagement and student recognition for behavioral improvement. We've lost some things along the way...

[@mathewgrelr7084]

Was the school involved a rich area or poor?

[@dextermorgan1]

@@mathewgrelr7084 You mean was it a predominantly black or white school? It was black. No surprise there. Yes, this is a raci*t statement. It's also true.

[@LDiamondz]

@@mathewgrelr7084 Newport News, VA is definitely not a rich area.

[@thatfishguy4991]

I once had interest in being a teacher a year or so ago. Until I realized just how dangerous the job was nowadays for how little you get compensated.

[@edadler7819]

Having taught in an inner city school for 22 years, none of this surprises me at all! Hatred is learned at home!

[@mamefosua]

How does a kid this age have access to a gun?. Aren't firearms meant to be locked all the time if you have kids around. Parents should be looked for neglect.

[@hooraylizardshit3821]

Because freedom. Because 'Murica. Case in point, Boebert & Sons Christmas pic, bearing arms.

[@RealmCenter40]

@@hooraylizardshit3821 If you are an American you have the luxury of moving to a place that has extremely strict/restrictive gun laws. Not overly dissimilar to moving to a dry county if you are opposed to the sales and consumption of alcohol.

[@bajanking43]

America is crazy you've had infants kill parents case of child in shopping cart killed mother as she had gun in her purse, also had parents take child to gun range who killed instructor, parents and instructor in that case both were stupid as they had child use ak47 notorious for kickback

[@sbrooke210]

@@RealmCenter40 and where would that be?

[@RealmCenter40]

@@sbrooke210 Where would what be? Restrictive gun laws? California would be the best bet probably with Illinois not far behind now. I’m not saying there will be less violence, there will probably be more but the gun laws will be far more strict than say, Texas.

[@davidbrienlantry8760]

Another well thought out analysis Dr. Grande. Again, your knowledge of firearms and careful, common-sense explanation raises valid questions about the parenting of the offender, the school's liability regarding the signs of potential problems with the offender and the obvious holes in the story provided to the public regarding how a six-year-old obtains a gun and brings it into a classroom. There are a lot of unanswered questions here.

[@eatmanyzoos]

the knowledge of firearms that allows him to avoid the fact that they are machines for killing and not defense. people who own guns are sick. they intend to murder and they are scum to me.

[@lynnep6088]

The fact that it was believed the child had a gun and it was reported to administrators three times and the administration said the day is almost over just let it go shocks the hell out of me. The child showed the gun to another child and said if he told anyone he would kill him. The child put the gun in his pocket for recess. So many failures by the school system. Two previous shootings at Newport News schools and no changes. Superintendent terminated as of February. But gets considerably large amount of money upon departure. This teacher deserves everything she can get!!!

[@sharonhoyt2133]

Some people don't believe people can be born evil. I disagree.

[@karlvonboldt]

One can have the best parents and still be born innately evil, I agree with your statement! Just as one can have 2 evil parents and be a functional, model citizen!

[@TruthBeTold0914]

💯 Agree with you. Inequities in the bloodline.

[@granny58]

@@wrongopinion2158 you are wrong

[@HolyMoly432]

To add one thing to the many posts about this (as usual) excellent Dr. Grande video - that teacher is a hero. I watched the police captain giving an interview a few days after this and he was so emotional talking about what an amazing job she did - after having a life-threatening bullet to the chest she got all of her students out of the class and was the last to leave. 🏆 ❤️

[@angeladansie4378]

Absolutely outrageous that the student's IEP requires his parents to be in the classroom with him. How distracting was this kid in the classroom? Every kid deserves an education, INCLUDING all of those other kids in the classroom. Now they're traumatized for life, after watching their teacher get shot. All because school officials left this very troubled child in a regular classroom & failed to intervene after reports of the gun. And I can't believe there have been no charges filed against the parents. That gun was OBVIOUSLY not properly secured!

[@_politefrog_8892]

What an amazing teacher to still lead the other children away from the shooter and to safety after being SHOT! I admire her.

[@scottburbridge3170]

we have every reason to blame complacent, ignorant school officials; the chaotic system then encourages society to "hug the shooter/murderer," encouraging them to do what they do. and then as years go by, the crimes & grievances multiply and they eventually end up in prison. i understand how schools have difficulty finding teachers at all.

[@fredajordan5704]

Scott . I can only fully agree. who wants to become a teacher today? Just like a cop or first responder, you never know if you come home in the evening, no thank you....

[@haruuuuu1115]

this is 100% spot on. i used to teach in this same district, just at a middle school, and i have several friends and colleagues that still work there. there is a HUGE push in teachers to just sweep things under the rug and not rock the boat. they want bodies in the room, basically, not significant teachers. the lack of support for discipline and academics is crazy. yes they’ll pay you pretty well, compared to where you’re living. and yes, they’ll give you all the newest gizmos and gadgets. but any clear, decisive steps to discipline? no. any real procedure on getting a kid clearly in the wrong placement to a better one? nope. at my new school, it took me 2 months to get one child from my regular classroom to a school that specialized in this specific needs. i didn’t even have steps to do that at the school i worked at in this same district as this shooting. it’s insane.

[@shindylahoe]

I’ve honestly avoided this story like the plague, but when I saw that you made a video about it, I was finally able to stomach it. Thanks for always giving such a great overview with out all the extra garbage.

[@lnc-to4ku]

What a disturbing case, and all her expressed fears and concerns were just ignored. It's hard to comprehend a 6 year old, actually planning such harm.... Such a great video, Dr. Grande!

[@marggagnon329]

Dr. Grande thank you very much for this video. I have several educators in my family teaching primary through to college. The fears of the teachers of the younger children in particular is the violent behaviour followed by the disgusting responses from their parents denying that there are the same problems occurring in the homes of these children. Teachers are advised by the parents of the misbehaving students (a definite understatement in my opinion) to just ignore the behaviour, toughen up, get a life, get control of their classes, and the list goes on. These outbursts are most often peppered with cursing, swearing, threats of having them declared unable to perform their duties which are paid for with the taxes of these parents. Teachers are not taken seriously when pointing out to their governing bodies the disruptive and often violent behaviour they are forced to deal with on an almost daily basis. Unfortunately other parents are advising the schools that their children are exhibiting anxiety, nightmares, fears that young children should not have to bear. Some children are being medicated to reduce the results of the violence they are being exposed to. Somehow this has to be dealt with.

[@tamitatangoto5134]

I know the solution Marg. A solution that's been in the works for a long long time. And that is for " God's kingdom to come." (Matthew 6:10,; Daniel 2:44,; Isaiah 9: 6,7,; Psalm 37: 9~11,22,29,34) It may not seem like a solution to some, but it is the only solution for all of mankind. Which, if you're paying attention you'll have noticed the whole stinking world is falling apart.

[@cathykrueger4899]

@@tamitatangoto5134 Well, that’s certainly a pious way of giving up.

[@leannemo7382]

@@cathykrueger4899 Nah. The “pious” actually need to step in and help return schools to the original order they implemented with massive success (highest literacy) and before post-modernists & ideologues pressed for progression: giving trophies to losers, equity to cheaters, safety to bullies, and choosing feelings over fairness. Strict, but fair rules regarding behavior, language, class work, threats, violence, etc. would once again ensure that school is a *safe* place full of wonder, learning, and praise…not anger, threats, and fear. 💯🍎 I just described an American elementary school in the 80s, which I attended, that was run by *a cheeky “pious” woman* who continues to be admired into her well-deserved retirement. ☺️

[@bthomson]

It is true that we have solved all the easy problems and are left with really tough ones! But surely it is obvious that we have come a long way! Anyone who thinks the past was rosy didn't live in it!

[@judyi.7015]

Excellent commentary, Dr. Grande!

[@trappersurge6364]

Dr Grande, thank you for your analysis. I think the elephant in the room here, besides the failure of the school administrators to proactively intervene, is why the parents lack of awareness of how deranged their son had become.

[@onemotherpucker]

Oh...there an elephant in the room alright.

[@melanytodd2929]

@@onemotherpucker ... and increasingly off -limits.

[@01splitpea]

Well done as always, Dr. Grande. Oddly, the brief moments of levity you interject provide badly needed relief from otherwise tragic situations. Thank you for posting.

[@JesusAlfonsoRafael]

How dare he make jokes out of serious subject matters, CANCEL HIM!!!

[@roadpizza3470]

Dr Grande is one of my favorite YTs. He is fair, tries hard to be balanced, and has some great dry humor. Keep going, Dr G!!

[@johncaze757]

What's wrong with that kid's mind?

[@emilyk9388]

Thanks for touching on this Dr. G! This was so heartbreaking. My nephew is the same age, just a little peanut. He receives treatment for ADHD and ODD, though it’s controversial for children under 7. Can you touch on ODD or this combination someday? Not many have heard of it.

[@emilyk9388]

@Danny Miller ?

[@KeepinItReal632]

He did a video on it before. It’s one of the first of his I watched

[@philsdon8932]

I remember the incident where the six year old shot another child in the stairwell. His mother had to work two jobs to make ends meet. She left him with his uncle to be cared for. It was terrible to see the mother, she was utterly broken. She loved her child, but was overwhelmed by the demands of life.

[@reneedennis2011]

That was in that documentary Bowling for Columbine.

[@WorldOfWonder66]

Thank you for doing this story. So many questions that are still unanswered. I pray for the safety of everyone around this boy. I honestly hope they look deep into this and do what needs to be done before someone ends up dead

[@rickbrenner6079]

Personality is almost complete by the time we are 6 yrs old and this boy seems to have an anti-social personality disorder. As stubborn as personality disorders are to treat, especially anti-social, it appears he’s destined to a life of hurting others and disregarding society’s laws to get what he wants, until he is stopped by law enforcement or “messes with the wrong person”.

[@MaryPothoven]

Thank you for your analysis. You are spot-on, the discipline a teacher practices in the classroom will protect students. Sadly, parents who don't discipline their children will usually try to disrupt the teacher, or anyone else who does. This has become an impossible situation in schools. No one's children is safe any more, and teachers, even less. This poor teacher was begging for help from the administration and wasn't getting it. I used to be a teacher and left the profession thirty years ago for this reason. I advised my daughters to not go into teaching because of it. A 9th grade student put me in the hoslital back then, and there were teachers getting hurt on a regular basis. We have a very serious problem in this country. The jail system and courts are overwhelmed as well. My son works for the State Attorney, it's bad, and we dont live in a very dangerous county compared to others in our state.

[@MMacAttack]

Black majority schools these days are like a zoo. Good luck to any bright eyed new teacher who takes a teaching position in one, they’ll be woke to reality very quickly

[@leeannvan1422]

Back when my parents were kids (1960's to 1970's) the teachers were the one that ran the classroom and if the teacher called the parents it wasn't good when the kid got home. I'm in my late 20's and my parents once grounded me for the whole summer when I was misbehaving (I even had my tv taked away lol). Other kids weren't raised like I was raised and I see the outcome now as adults. I'm sure it's even worse with kids now as I see people in my family and just out and about and i'm like this is not going to end well for them when they get into the real world. The parents should be charged with a felony with this case

[@redneckgirl3326]

I grew up in the 70s and 80s and saw what happened when my parents got a call from the principal about my older siblings. I knew better than to act up in school.

[@Lexielouwho]

I found the fact that one of the parents has to go to school with the child every day to be a huge red flag. I've never heard of that before. If he was that uncontrollable why wasn't he put in a special needs class that has fewer students for the teacher to tend to? And if he was that out of control, why on god's earth did the mom get a gun? Maybe there's more to the home life than is being aired. Maybe mom needed protection too. Ugh, unbelievable to think a 6 year old could carry so much rage to state he wanted to set his teacher on fire. That's just not something a 6 year old would say. Maybe I wanna hurt my teacher or I wanna kill my teacher, but to get specific on the way he wanted to do it, is psycho. Dr G is psychopathy born into our DNA or is it a learned behavior?

[@jori7398]

Whether or not people are born with it is getting more attention these days. I just heard about a researcher/author tonight on Hidden True Crime whose work supports the claim that there’s a genetic component to psychopathy, and that the environment also plays a role. So I guess it’s a combination of the two things. However it happens, it’s terrifying and sad. 😓

[@hauntedbearchild]

Often, many of these children are born to a mother on drugs, or a mother who has mental problems herself. One of my daughters is NICU nurse in a large city hospital and when she cares for these babies she fears sending them home. They have even had mothers come in and be caught taking narcotics out or a closet meant for babies in pain. That's low, yet the law still says they must send the baby home with the parent unless a court tells them otherwise. It's bad enough the baby may have brain damage from being born early and addicted but worse to be sent back into that home situation.

[@melissagilbert9654]

School administrators and teachers wouldn’t know how to properly handle a child like this!!

[@sugarplum316]

HOLD THE SCHOOLS ACCOUNTABLE! THEY KNEW,,, TOO MANY WARNING SIGNS THEY CHOOSE TO IGNORE.

[@roxannespahr2804]

I wake up every night here around 1:00 a.m., without fail. I fell asleep watching one of your videos and always have a new one to watch. I am so glad you're here. The way you put videos together with the the timeline and the way you successfully put together all the relevant information in this perfect-like format, makes you my favorite channel to watch on KZbin. I like alot of different topics, so that says alot. Thank you for all the research and hard work you put in to make these videos!!