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6 жыл бұрын

Are you having second thoughts about your super-wide flat bars? Maybe we can help. Calvin and Truman look at a few ways to determine ideal bar width, and go through the cutting process on aluminum and carbon handlebars.
Questions or comments? Leave them below!
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• RR-12 Tape Measure - www.parktool.com/product/tape...
• HBH-2 Handlebar Holder - www.parktool.com/product/hand...
• AWS-1 3-Way Hex Wrench - www.parktool.com/product/3-wa...
• SAW-1 Hacksaw - www.parktool.com/product/hack...
• SG-7.2 Oversized Adjustable Saw Guide - www.parktool.com/product/over...
• DC-1 Digital Caliper - www.parktool.com/product/digi...
• CSB-1 Carbon Cutting Saw Blade - www.parktool.com/product/carb...
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@bigarnd
@bigarnd 6 жыл бұрын
Park tool branded machete... I would buy that...
@ThinkyPain
@ThinkyPain 6 жыл бұрын
Park MCT-1
@bigarnd
@bigarnd 6 жыл бұрын
Thinky Pain yes!
@th_js
@th_js 6 жыл бұрын
Oh yess
@jackbeames7643
@jackbeames7643 6 жыл бұрын
Tomi Saaranen hello. Aha.
@bensblues
@bensblues 6 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't be surprised if they made one
@huybanh3825
@huybanh3825 6 жыл бұрын
Rumour has it, three cameramen were jabbed in the eye by Calvin's machete in the opening scene.
@qweam229
@qweam229 5 жыл бұрын
Honestly for the amount of effort they put into their videos they should have more veiws and subscribers
@VideoNOLA
@VideoNOLA 5 жыл бұрын
Pro tip: Wadded up damp cloth on a string, shoved into the handlebar end before cutting begins, helps pull out any lingering shavings without much hassle or sending dust airborne.
@tobiasl-d7331
@tobiasl-d7331 5 жыл бұрын
Before you buy the handlebars, run around the bike shop pretending to ride a rock garden
@parktool
@parktool 5 жыл бұрын
That is actually an interesting idea.
@richarde1355
@richarde1355 3 жыл бұрын
Or, at the shop, while holding the bars drop down to do push-ups and check the fit!
@AF-O6
@AF-O6 6 жыл бұрын
This is a great company that stands behind its products. I’m a customer for life based on how they treated me for a minor problem. The videos are sometime corny, but love the products!!!
@satchmotionrc8202
@satchmotionrc8202 Жыл бұрын
A good old-fashioned shop vacuum will also work for cleaning out that mm of fragments. Loving the tutorials!
@Durwood71
@Durwood71 2 жыл бұрын
I realized after I started to develop pain in my shoulders that my bars at 29" were way too wide for me. So I determined the optimal width using the "zen" method: I straddled my bike, closed my eyes, held my arms comfortably in front of me, and then let my hands drop naturally onto the bars, which landed them about two inches from the end on each side, so I cut off 1.5 inches using a pipe cutter, and even after just a few minutes of test riding, I could already feel my shoulders relaxing. In theory, I'm sacrificing stability, but I think my shoulders will be happier in the long run.
@monkeyking847
@monkeyking847 6 жыл бұрын
Hey Calvin, recently started working at a bike shop, one of the mechanics there who is just a genius of bike maintenance and repair was telling me he studied under you at a bicycle institute after I mentioned I love watching your videos, which I thought was so cool! Keep up the awesome work.
@luispiros
@luispiros Жыл бұрын
I try not to subscribe to commercial accounts but Park Tool has the most respectful advertisements to it’s viewership. Honest and ethical.
@tlf.
@tlf. 5 жыл бұрын
This is just a useful tool commercial I love it
@benjaminvg8018
@benjaminvg8018 6 жыл бұрын
Love the cheesy acting 😂
@retrodog63
@retrodog63 5 жыл бұрын
It wasn't meant to be. Doh!!!
@remotecontrolcentral4928
@remotecontrolcentral4928 4 жыл бұрын
R/whooosh
@onlyonecannoli3952
@onlyonecannoli3952 3 жыл бұрын
Glad that you and the rest of the five year olds enjoyed it.
@benjaminvg8018
@benjaminvg8018 3 жыл бұрын
@@onlyonecannoli3952 Someone is angry 😡
@onlyonecannoli3952
@onlyonecannoli3952 3 жыл бұрын
@@benjaminvg8018 Not really. Just puzzled at how someone can be so dimwitted as to like this video. But hey, there are no laws against it, so have at it.
@cjrazzle
@cjrazzle 6 жыл бұрын
Great vid fellas. It's not a bad idea to start your cut on aluminum bars with a pipe cutter because it will give you the cleanest line around the bar. Finish the cut with a finer tooth hacksaw blade that will naturally follow the shallow cut from there and you have a job well done with very common and inexpensive multi-purpose tools.
@NelsonTrujillo1
@NelsonTrujillo1 6 жыл бұрын
Was having a so-so day and these guys made my day. And... just realized my handlebars are wider than needed, this video will help me do it very soon. Thanks for the video
@sethfrankel3542
@sethfrankel3542 5 жыл бұрын
Technically, you can’t use calipers to directly measure the thickness of the cut a blade will make. It’s called the kerf thickness and you need to make a sample cut to determine the thickness or know the offset of the teeth dimenion. Teeth are always slightly offset to the alternating sides of the blade to intentionally make a wider cut than the thickness of the blade so that the blade does not bind in the material being cut. Ok, fine, we’re talking a negligible amount, and these are bike mechanics anyway, not precision machinists! Also, if you make with an ultra-fine sharpie the position of the shifter/brake clamp before loosening then you can reference that and never have to guess at the angle later. Thanks, gentlemen.
@123456bmx
@123456bmx 6 жыл бұрын
The 14 people who disliked cut with metal hacksaw blades in both directions
@obi-wankenobi9871
@obi-wankenobi9871 6 жыл бұрын
Doesnt matter when you do that, especially not with aluminium.
@ratsac
@ratsac 5 жыл бұрын
I’ve recently had two bar strikes on trees at speed, which resulted in some lovely bruises on my thighs (both legs). After watching this, my bars seem almost 100mm too wide for me! Definitely going to cut some off. Thanks guys! Oh and alloy bars are relatively cheap if you cut too much off.
@DrDrew1979
@DrDrew1979 6 жыл бұрын
I really liked the new more lively and humorous approach. Not sure why other commenters disliked it. Maybe cheesy, so what? Still funny! I prefer new style over the old "cold bare details" style
@parktool
@parktool 6 жыл бұрын
Third.........Missing that hair.... eh, maybe not.
@matejmanceta1794
@matejmanceta1794 5 жыл бұрын
No coments on Park tool coment? Not in my watch!
@richarde1355
@richarde1355 3 жыл бұрын
Calvin and Truman, you two are awesome! Thank you so much for this video!
@jerrygundecker743
@jerrygundecker743 4 жыл бұрын
I did pretty much what you did before I saw this video. I wrapped electrical tape on the bar, (Alum), (making sure my shift and brake levers fit comfortably), and cut along the tape freehand. I then took the cutoff and used it for a measure, applied the tape to the other end of the bar, and cut at the end of the electr. tape, as straight as I could. Deburred it. Worked out fine. A millimeter or two makes no diff. when the grips or tape are back on. Good luck.
@dirtycommtroop
@dirtycommtroop 5 жыл бұрын
I just took the 780mm bars on my new bike down to 730mm which is a bit wider than my last bike. This video made me feel much better about my decision.
@darkriverracing22
@darkriverracing22 5 жыл бұрын
After cutting down carbon bars, I like to apply a small amount of c.a. to the surface of the cut to seal the carbon. Just a nice finishing touch.
@NealHartsChannel
@NealHartsChannel 2 жыл бұрын
These videos are so good. The way they teach is awesome!
@beardsleymcbearderton6492
@beardsleymcbearderton6492 6 жыл бұрын
Calvin, you guys rock! love these videos!
@ericpatterson8596
@ericpatterson8596 6 жыл бұрын
Great video and great job parktools !! 👍👍
@simeone74
@simeone74 5 жыл бұрын
just brilliant - great job, guys
@larryrobinson7037
@larryrobinson7037 3 жыл бұрын
Love all these videos - especially to help us get through the pandemic. All the corny comments and stunts are great too.
@saulsandoval2313
@saulsandoval2313 6 жыл бұрын
All good tips. Thank you👍
@ed0078
@ed0078 6 жыл бұрын
Excellent tutorial
@th_js
@th_js 6 жыл бұрын
Awesome video guys, like always!! I rarely watch these for actual repair help, but entertainment, because these are just soo good!! 👍🏻
@matejmanceta1794
@matejmanceta1794 5 жыл бұрын
Again
@aninesyik6555
@aninesyik6555 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome instruction! Thank you!
@Bad.Rabbit
@Bad.Rabbit 6 жыл бұрын
I had 780 bars. I'd wait till I was in a good groove and comfortable, then look at my hand position. I was running on the inside of the grip more, so I cut 10mm off each end. Now I ride almost at the end of the grip. Perfect at 760
@rhuynh
@rhuynh 4 жыл бұрын
How tall are you and does your wing span matcj?
@mattjustin3596
@mattjustin3596 3 жыл бұрын
You guys' videos are the best.
@abusedpigeons225
@abusedpigeons225 5 жыл бұрын
My favorite position for my cockpit levers is where ever Walmart puts them
@grindeyyyyy
@grindeyyyyy 3 жыл бұрын
Legend has it you ride Walmart bikes in shop condition because you love the danger
@biggaywizard
@biggaywizard 6 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate your info, the carbon cutting was the most helpful. It seems to me that bar width is still just up to your personal preference. On a side note, for holding the bars in place I use two old toe straps between the front wheel and down tube, I find the have a more of a firm grip on holding the bars in place.
@zbynekcodykolacek
@zbynekcodykolacek 6 жыл бұрын
Really great fun and tech.
@diokipadaca8796
@diokipadaca8796 4 жыл бұрын
I usually shape the sandpaper/emery cloth into small cones. One with the grit inside and one outside. Then I use these to debur the inside and outside diameter by turning it around the sharp edges. I get better roundness this way.
@giuliom8520
@giuliom8520 3 жыл бұрын
Very comprehensive video! Great job! You guys must be instructors because you guys seem like experts.
@juluisreyes9094
@juluisreyes9094 3 жыл бұрын
The push up position method works for me guys as i have quite long reach..nice one guys
@SD-nq6kg
@SD-nq6kg 2 жыл бұрын
Park Tool The Gold Standard
@Daniel_D_King
@Daniel_D_King 3 жыл бұрын
I found a video a while ago, recommended multiplying your height in cm by 4.40 to give bar length in mm as your maximum. Go less if you like but not more. To wide will move the work from the muscle groups in shoulders and back up to just the shoulders and cause damage. Iv found this to be perfect for me. Im 165cm x 4.4 = 726mm bars. I run 720mm comfortably.
@parktool
@parktool 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting.
@energ8t
@energ8t 5 жыл бұрын
You should definitely be wearing a dust mask for the carbon. 20 years from now, you’ll be glad you did. My dad and my grandfather both died from asbestos exposure; mesothelioma.
@Kegel_Destroyer
@Kegel_Destroyer 4 жыл бұрын
Dude with the stash reminds me of the random guy at the pub that really wants to talk, but you dont want to.
@mymorristribe
@mymorristribe 5 жыл бұрын
hmm, I cut my carbon fiber bar with a jig saw. Took about 1 min to measure and cut each side. It's interesting to see the OCD version of what I did.
@rupedog
@rupedog 3 жыл бұрын
Carbon dust is exceptionally toxic. Hope u wore a min p2 mask or damped down at least. Ideally both. Jigsaw would defo send fine dust (fairly invisible to eye) into air
@kennyc1101
@kennyc1101 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve this tool by Park Tool but I find that using my Ridgid plumber pipe tubing cutter a lot faster. Just spin a few round and job done
@ratoneJR
@ratoneJR 5 жыл бұрын
did push ups and measured hand spacing. 700 mm bars measured right and work great
@Chris-de2qc
@Chris-de2qc 3 жыл бұрын
Handlebar baby!
@calebbrown6858
@calebbrown6858 5 жыл бұрын
Great vid, as usu, fellas!
@denishuber7758
@denishuber7758 5 жыл бұрын
I like the brake lever angle about 30° and away from the handlebars about 20mm....given a bit more leverage
@x-1584
@x-1584 6 жыл бұрын
I won't piss Calvin off.
@zygmuntthecacaokakistocrat6589
@zygmuntthecacaokakistocrat6589 6 жыл бұрын
When cutting, stand in front, and stabilize with your free hand on this side (ambidexterity is useful here!). Reverse for the other side, and/or grip the front wheel with your knees. BTW, those slots in the guide are called 'kerf guides'. With carbon bar shortening, rotate the guide 90º halfway through the cut to avoid torn fibres at the end of the cut. Also, it's better to use a vacuum cleaner to suck up carbon dust. Get someone to hold the hose nearby whilst the cut's being made.
@yani1343
@yani1343 4 жыл бұрын
It might sound weird but I like my shift and brake levers vertical
@Mr_RichardH
@Mr_RichardH 6 жыл бұрын
Calvin waving a machete around is terrifying.
@inigopatten3413
@inigopatten3413 6 жыл бұрын
i like my brake and shift levers on the handlebars.
@scottlohr4126
@scottlohr4126 5 жыл бұрын
I have shoulder issues, and have been finding a wider bar is fine, generally, but pulling up and back on the bar and turning at speed is a problem (think of a shoulder working like indexed shifting). I got back to a much more natural lean-turn, and can wheelie easier in my 620. Plus I find the longer stem length adds to stability more than bar width (again, more at speed). Sure did feel weird initially!
@mr.wizeguy8995
@mr.wizeguy8995 5 жыл бұрын
I used angle grinder and it took like 10 seconds to cut both ends doesn't matter if you cut slight off handlebar grip is going to hide cut end anyway. If you use some end cap then it needs to be 90 degree cut and this method would be better.
@KVandendriessche
@KVandendriessche 6 жыл бұрын
Hahahaha you guys are awesome! Thanks for the laugh
@lienquanmobile7994
@lienquanmobile7994 3 жыл бұрын
This episode should be on Comedy Central.
@RNicknackpaddywhack
@RNicknackpaddywhack 4 жыл бұрын
Most of his knowledge and authority comes from his majestic mustache.
@richarde1355
@richarde1355 3 жыл бұрын
I like my brakes and shifters positioned like Truman described. I guess my hands are kinda wide-ish, and the webbing of my hand will bands into the shifter if it isn’t positioned a little more onboard than his Calvin describes.
@chrisgates3128
@chrisgates3128 6 жыл бұрын
My method is make them ab 3-4 inches away from front of seat so u dont hit knees when u bar spin
@grindeyyyyy
@grindeyyyyy 3 жыл бұрын
I need one of them saw guides, cut bars and steer tube down yesterday, not a straight cut, I ride my bars at around 550 to 600 (track bike)
@that70sschwinn
@that70sschwinn 6 жыл бұрын
Always good to cut one first...
@josereneducharme142
@josereneducharme142 6 жыл бұрын
Please tell me no handlebar has been hurt during the production of this film.
@fifthcircle1
@fifthcircle1 3 жыл бұрын
Shifters on the down tube, and a coaster brake.
@2creativo11
@2creativo11 3 жыл бұрын
Corney but very informative. Park is my go-to DIY bike spot. Thanks
@andrewmaljaars2693
@andrewmaljaars2693 6 жыл бұрын
Do you have a similar video for choosing the best stem length?
@ub3227
@ub3227 4 жыл бұрын
I like my shifters and brakes where they are easy to reach by just extending my fingers but don’t bother me when I’m just holding onto the handlebars.
@theoretically3130
@theoretically3130 6 жыл бұрын
This made me laugh so hard
@kristenwarren1780
@kristenwarren1780 6 жыл бұрын
How did the "feeling" test compare to the push up test? (In terms of bar width measurement.) thanks!
@axelbuckets3858
@axelbuckets3858 4 жыл бұрын
Like for the new handlebar babies
@darius2640
@darius2640 6 жыл бұрын
My technique is to mind you current setup and then try all your buddies bikes choose your favourite and ask for specs
@chineseobelisk
@chineseobelisk 5 жыл бұрын
I put the handlebar in a vise and use a plumbing deburring tool.
@caRpetbomBer1
@caRpetbomBer1 6 жыл бұрын
The machete would make a great hipster handlebar.
@NonLegitNation2
@NonLegitNation2 2 жыл бұрын
I was on the 780mm bandwagon for a while, but was getting tired of having to turn my wheel sideways to get into doorways since i store my bike inside. I went to 760mm and although it's only 40mm shorter they feel better and it's a little easier to get into doorways.
@parktool
@parktool 2 жыл бұрын
Nice. Make the bikes fit into your life.
@PeterZeller1
@PeterZeller1 3 жыл бұрын
Me at the end of the video: I don't even want shorter handlebars, why did I watch this?
@alexnicolaou3579
@alexnicolaou3579 6 жыл бұрын
am I strange for prefering the shifter mount on the outside of the brake mount, a bit closer to the grips? i just love it when the shift levers are exactly below the grips and the brake lever further away, allowing for intuitive one finger braking. of course i place my hands right at the edge of the grips and sometimes even put my palms on the bar end plugs as an alternative position on long rides. the outside placement of the shifters allows for an easy finger to shifter reach even when holding like that
@parktool
@parktool 6 жыл бұрын
There is no strange in comfort. Whatever works for you is great.
@alexnicolaou3579
@alexnicolaou3579 6 жыл бұрын
Thanx ParkTool, i was always feeling "different" for setting up my cockpit in that 'unusual' way, unlike the rest of the setups i see. Haven't tried iSpec or simmilar integrated clamp yet though..
@MayorofNilbog
@MayorofNilbog 2 жыл бұрын
That's a gorgeous bike. Currently near impossible to find with the bike shortage.
@robertmcfadyen9156
@robertmcfadyen9156 Жыл бұрын
I have my own bicycles and have no appetite for new ones no matter how good they might look . I would not forget the day when a cop defamed me in front of a bicycle shop owner unwittingly many years ago . I was so embarrassed .
@sumnerbob2254
@sumnerbob2254 6 жыл бұрын
Truman!
@robertmcfadyen9156
@robertmcfadyen9156 Жыл бұрын
I have a pipe deburring tool for the ends of tubing .
@minysmith9043
@minysmith9043 6 жыл бұрын
Marketing came in thick at the sg72...lol....I'll stick with my tube cutter from the hardware store. Accurate cuts and no ducking around....sure that tapes measuring 20mm too lol all bent up. Park, I know it's just bikes, but calipers? A ruler?
@konstakasonen7332
@konstakasonen7332 6 жыл бұрын
3,16 use your grips (only if they have metal ends) they are also level and stuff
@rupedog
@rupedog 3 жыл бұрын
Or use an.old grip, cut the end off, turn around/put on backwArds...instant guide
@the_blair_bike_project
@the_blair_bike_project 3 жыл бұрын
I think Calvin should star in the next Machete movie alongside Danny Trejo.
@danhenderson783
@danhenderson783 5 жыл бұрын
I'm going to buy a saw guide so I can use it once every 4-5 years. Okie Doke
@HackedUpForBarbeque
@HackedUpForBarbeque 5 жыл бұрын
My thoughts exactly. Plus if you have lockons you already have a saw guide. Just use the two locking rings.
@mariamartins367
@mariamartins367 4 жыл бұрын
Just sawed my bar yesterday. Had nothing better to do. Unavoidably the cut was not straight. Wish i had the tool, can’t see any diy for that. But it’s a lame tool to have when it’s a one off.
@iwontreplybacklol7481
@iwontreplybacklol7481 Жыл бұрын
$45 tool at that 😂😂😂😂 I use a dremel with a cut off wheel, much more useful for lots of other things.whuch is a better value.
@aldrinclementina4297
@aldrinclementina4297 8 ай бұрын
Hi there.. I had 580mm bars on my "26, but I'm widen it a little bit. I have a 750mm on it just to try otherwise I will trim it down to maybe 740mm or 680mm. One other thing. I don't know at what degrees but I like my brake levers at a level/ angle that my natural hand movement can get to it. I know this is an old video and I hope you guys read this comment. What do you guys think of my 26' XC bike with 75mm stem and 750mm bars. What do you guys recommend me? Thanks for sharing
@troym1849
@troym1849 5 жыл бұрын
Those expensive tools so not necessary. Hack saw, bandsaw, dremels work great.
@spicydeath82
@spicydeath82 5 жыл бұрын
an actual hand deburrer tool works great for this application too.
@geemail369
@geemail369 6 жыл бұрын
How did the 700mm (push up position) contribute to the final cut?!
@arepea6087
@arepea6087 4 жыл бұрын
Pipe cutter, pipe cutter! So much cleaner.
@MichaelMolli
@MichaelMolli 6 жыл бұрын
The test ride at the end is missing.
@swpa8742
@swpa8742 5 жыл бұрын
I like long bars because I can hook them around a tree at the top of a steep hill and take a break without taking my feet off the pedals lol.
@sean0611
@sean0611 6 жыл бұрын
Did he just cut one side?!
@vuelvoel2011
@vuelvoel2011 6 жыл бұрын
yes
@sean0611
@sean0611 6 жыл бұрын
capitan futuro wait really? Arent you supposed to cut both so its even?
@vuelvoel2011
@vuelvoel2011 6 жыл бұрын
Sean hahaha you must cut both sides
@sean0611
@sean0611 6 жыл бұрын
capitan futuro i knew it lol i tjought u only cut one
@Chris-de2qc
@Chris-de2qc 3 жыл бұрын
Better safe than sorry
@user-qw2tt6su7p
@user-qw2tt6su7p 6 жыл бұрын
I personally like my handlebars exactly 7886mm wide. I think I am going to get wider bars though
@YavorM-Yash
@YavorM-Yash 6 жыл бұрын
And that's nearly 8 meters wide, you know...
@user-qw2tt6su7p
@user-qw2tt6su7p 6 жыл бұрын
Явор Марков Yes it gives me lots of control
@truantray
@truantray 6 жыл бұрын
jason scheffel Its the evolution of cycling. My 2025 bike will have 9 meter bars and 1x 65 speeds, 49er inch wheels, and 12 suspension components I will lock out at all times.
@user-qw2tt6su7p
@user-qw2tt6su7p 6 жыл бұрын
okleydokley will your suspension be made by rockshox, fox, or apple. With Siri built in
@avaf7699
@avaf7699 5 жыл бұрын
First u got X0 Carbon then a bike with RSC... nice
@DanGadd
@DanGadd 6 жыл бұрын
Ive never cut down any of my bars, 800mm is perfect for me
@storz100mm
@storz100mm 5 жыл бұрын
So which way do the teeth point on the saw blade. Towards the saw handle or away from it?
@parktool
@parktool 5 жыл бұрын
Away from the handle. Cut on the push, not on the pull.
@user-pe1qz3rt3f
@user-pe1qz3rt3f 4 жыл бұрын
Iike to use chain saw
@rinky_dinky
@rinky_dinky 6 жыл бұрын
i gots to know what flat bars are those on the Salsa bike ! is it the salt flat delux ?
@parktool
@parktool 6 жыл бұрын
Thats correct!
@hael8680
@hael8680 4 жыл бұрын
What is the best way of removing and reinstalling the grips?
@parktool
@parktool 4 жыл бұрын
I prefer air to put on grips. kzbin.info/www/bejne/en-Vgmuqo7R_pdE
@dereine385
@dereine385 4 жыл бұрын
Lift the inner Edge with your finger,Spray some Brake-cleaner or alcohol in the inside and pull it Off.
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