Making a Custom Push Rod Suspension - E55 ASL Part 7

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XF Motorsports

XF Motorsports

5 жыл бұрын

E55 ASL Playlist: • Project E55 ASL (Actua...
Jonny Redlines Instagram: / jonnyredline
My Instagram: / shehryar8215
Rod End's In Bending: www.formulastudent.de/pr/news...
Textbook example of a double wishbone pushrod layout: www.mulsannescorner.com/ferrar...

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@Lillebroor
@Lillebroor 5 жыл бұрын
As a mechanical engineer I enjoyed every second of this video. So underrated channel. I'm subscribing!
4 жыл бұрын
I just subscribed because of this video. When going through the comments I spotted yours and had to reply to confirm your true words :D.
@off-roadingexplained8417
@off-roadingexplained8417 Жыл бұрын
Software engineers like it too , lol ;-)
@096frost2
@096frost2 8 ай бұрын
Us arm chair engineers also like this!!
@oren1419
@oren1419 5 жыл бұрын
If you would like to go even deeper with your explanations it would be great and I think that many will appreciate it! Maybe even do a whole video for nerds only! Great work man!
@azargelin
@azargelin 5 жыл бұрын
Totaly agree
@walkercam
@walkercam 5 жыл бұрын
Yes please! Very keen to see some more behind the scenes of your suspension calcs.
@umedina98
@umedina98 5 жыл бұрын
TOTALLY AGREE
@EvelOttos
@EvelOttos 4 жыл бұрын
Same here. Fire up a Patreon account. I would totally give you a buck or two per video for in depth analysis and calculations on designing the suspension. It would save me hours from breaking out my old text books and re-learning it.
@umedina98
@umedina98 4 жыл бұрын
@@EvelOttos I wouldn't mind neither.
@GingerZero
@GingerZero 5 жыл бұрын
What an absolute legend. I'll be following your project closely and I hope you'll be able to gain enough subscribers to provide significant financial help to fund the future of your project. Awesome work!
@kaumohlamonyane272
@kaumohlamonyane272 5 жыл бұрын
Your channel really deserves more subscribers😶. Amazing work man. Can't wait to see the final product.
@soundmaster1966
@soundmaster1966 5 жыл бұрын
cars are not designed by people standing around and looking. 😂👍 ROFL. You are so right! Great work.
@gafrers
@gafrers 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome build. Every single episode is better than the last. Great to see progress and the explanations are always on point.
@Tommy_Poole
@Tommy_Poole 5 жыл бұрын
You’re being very brave showing this build and in this much detail as you’re bound to to be criticised by people who think that they know better. Good for you for having the facts to hand to prove that what your doing is correct. Can’t wait to see how you tackle your next set of problems. Keep up the good work.
@bman12three43
@bman12three43 5 жыл бұрын
Canadian car builder DESTROYS armchair suspension experts with FACTS and CALCULATIONS
@eumoria
@eumoria 5 жыл бұрын
I CAN SEE FROM THIS VIDEO THIS CAR IS INADEQUATE. MY PROOF IS MY FEELINGS.
@bintangsena2249
@bintangsena2249 5 жыл бұрын
BOOOM
@johnterpack3940
@johnterpack3940 4 жыл бұрын
Your comment is paradoxical. By throwing around an epithet like "armchair expert" you are asserting that you yourself are an expert capable of judging the FACTS and CALCULATIONS presented in the video as being true and accurate. Yet you simultaneously insist that nobody else is capable of judging the FACTS and CALCULATIONS and pointing out errors. So you and the guy in the video are the only two people on KZbin who understand physics or suspension and you are both infallible. He did make FACTual errors in the video. Most notably when he said pushrod suspension reduces unsprung weight. Anything that moves with the wheel is partially unsprung weight. That includes the pushrod and bellcrank. Bolting the coilover across the top of the chassis doesn't make it less a part of the unsprung weight than bolting it directly to the control arm.
@isaacmadhavan
@isaacmadhavan 4 жыл бұрын
@@johnterpack3940 So, are you saying that anything bolted to the chassis is unsprung weight?
@johnterpack3940
@johnterpack3940 4 жыл бұрын
@@isaacmadhavan anything that moves with the suspension is unsprung. If it is also bolted to the chassis then it is only partially unsprung.
@bahadrd1579
@bahadrd1579 5 жыл бұрын
That explanations of calculations are best parts of your work. Perfectly engineered
@diggleboy
@diggleboy 5 жыл бұрын
I'm drooling over the physics explained in your video! :) Facts, Science, Logic & Reason are the undisputed champions in any dispute. Bro-science vs. Physics! Physics wins every time and your patience to educate all the bro's on Reddit and on your channel is extremely appreciated and very valuable. It's never about right or wrong, it's what matters most to making it work properly in the end. Thank you for patiently explaining the suspension design, calculations and formulas, and the graphs in Excel you used to make sure you were within the limits of your design. I am eagerly awaiting to see you race your E55 ASL track monster once your project is all finished. :) Say the word and I'll be there. Now, it's back to work for me.
@christhjian9923
@christhjian9923 4 жыл бұрын
It's been said here before, but after you'd be done with the project, I also would love to see an in-depth video about entire critical calculations that went into the design. I feel there are not many people who could explain it as well as you. I've been watching these videos multiple times already and will continue to do that to remember as much as I can! And owning the keyboard warriors was simply legendary :)
@pjvenda
@pjvenda 5 жыл бұрын
Loved the explanation at the end, huge credit for being able to back up your decisions with actual calculations and simulation data. Killer quote: "cars are not designed by people standing around in a circle and looking at something and the judging how strong it is. There are actual methods to calculate how much stress something has to go under....."
@macbec1805
@macbec1805 5 жыл бұрын
This guy is extremely smart and mechanically inclined. He knows what he is talking about!!!
@diehardmetalhead3797
@diehardmetalhead3797 5 жыл бұрын
I like the thing that you explain things with math,with evidence about the actual design.Keep up the hard work
@MrJasonAlderman
@MrJasonAlderman 5 жыл бұрын
Fantastic work! You've done a great job balancing the technical detail with common sense explanations.
@jacobrohr5903
@jacobrohr5903 5 жыл бұрын
This thing is gonna be crazy fast when it’s done. Great explanation about the engineering behind it.
@Semparo
@Semparo 5 жыл бұрын
To many folks trying overthink this for you, its yours to break.... Not to say that it would of course, but your the one doing all the work here! And it looks great! You've done the math and now your doing the work! Cant wait to see this project completed!
@labmancdn
@labmancdn 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for taking the time to share things in such a detailed manner. I think you have renewed my decision to design/build a pushrod suspension on my project car. I think I was trying to get a little too complicated and you have brought it back to a much simpler approach for me. It's rare to see someone share build steps at this detailed of a level. Please keep it up. Look forward to watching through to your project completion!
@ajhartmanaero
@ajhartmanaero 4 жыл бұрын
I like when you get into the numbers to support your decisions. Love these videos.
@markraumer2336
@markraumer2336 5 жыл бұрын
You are a patient chap explaining all of this to the armchair experts. Loving the build I can't wait to see it on the track.
@matito_67
@matito_67 5 жыл бұрын
really nice, im finishing my carreer in mechanical engenierring and i would have loved to see this 4 years ago, all your explanations all pretty clear keep on doing it
@Triarcs
@Triarcs 5 жыл бұрын
I really like the fact that you are doing everything yourself, and that you take the time to explain how. Also, you seems really trustworthy when it comes to calculations. As an engineering student, i can only agree with the results you get at the end of the video. Cheers!
@jay-peephillips2349
@jay-peephillips2349 Ай бұрын
Great Project and Good Work. A Plasma Cutter would do wonders interms of getting cuts precise and accurate. Good Job
@chrismakulai4960
@chrismakulai4960 4 жыл бұрын
I don’t care if this car is going to be fast or slow. I love the engineering works for this car. Respect your works, keep up your good work.
@Cravenmooreheadism
@Cravenmooreheadism 5 жыл бұрын
Most underrated channel on youtube.
@ClassifiedRecon
@ClassifiedRecon 5 жыл бұрын
This is amazing. Thanks for documenting this as this stuff is hard to read up on forums
@TheProchargedmopar
@TheProchargedmopar 5 жыл бұрын
Another awesome video. Thanks for this series.
@michelevitarelli
@michelevitarelli 5 жыл бұрын
You are keeping the spirit up the privateer alive. Great project and video. Thanks for sharing.
@MercenaryRandoms
@MercenaryRandoms 4 жыл бұрын
I'm a civil engineering student. You make me want to go back and re read all the shit I didn't understand.
@OffbeatMotors
@OffbeatMotors 5 жыл бұрын
I love how you take the time to explain and show why you did what you did. Most people don't understand how much time and calculations going into make just 1 part let alone a complete system. Great job!!!
@spiritbuu
@spiritbuu 5 жыл бұрын
Math and Gravity always win...don’t worry wasting time disputing keyboards warriors and tire kickers.
@santiagoperez2094
@santiagoperez2094 5 жыл бұрын
math and gravity are human concepts. not different from any other argument, im not defending keyboard warriors thoug
@VS666
@VS666 5 жыл бұрын
@@santiagoperez2094 theyre not "concepts", theyre laws that cannot be broken or disputed.
@santiagoperez2094
@santiagoperez2094 5 жыл бұрын
@@VS666 yahhh no, both are concepts we created to describe the universe, and can be wrong, just like einstein proved in the relative theory. the ¨laws¨ are there ofcourse, but we dont know them, we only can describe them in human language.
@santiagoperez2094
@santiagoperez2094 5 жыл бұрын
pi for example, its a ¨magic¨ number that can be found in almost an infinite amount of forms, and we dont even know why this number exist, but still we use it because its usefull kzbin.info/www/bejne/fnbJeXmpm6yLoNU&ab_channel=3Blue1Brown
@johannesrnnenordentoft5303
@johannesrnnenordentoft5303 5 жыл бұрын
In theory there is no difference between theory and practice, in practice there is - Yogi Berra. This project use physics - where you try to describe the reality through a model, opposite of math that is kept pure theoretical. The reality always win, and the models is always adjusted to the world you observe, this is empiricism and why sceince is evolving. Theory is a shortcut to easen the work, foresight reality and avoid failure. - sincerly a manufacturing engineer that is parttime behind a computer and parttime on the shopfloor.
@kaidiego
@kaidiego 5 жыл бұрын
Can't wait for this thing to be fully alive and on a track! Amazing!
@HUBBABUBBADOOPYDOOP
@HUBBABUBBADOOPYDOOP 5 жыл бұрын
The angle of incidence is equal to the axis of inclination. As with Billiards or the articulating geometry of a suspension- there are definable rules and formulas that must be followed. You are doing an awesome, complex fabrication, with all the science, math and graphs to point it all out. Haters are just yankin your chain; pay no mind to their drivel.
@shubhahluwalia4054
@shubhahluwalia4054 4 жыл бұрын
Where can I find the study material for these suspensions?
@horizonsfade
@horizonsfade Жыл бұрын
This is one of the best pieces of content I've ever witnessed.
@kayzrx8
@kayzrx8 5 жыл бұрын
Love your videos man. Most underrated channel on KZbin.
@tommywright517
@tommywright517 5 жыл бұрын
This build is insane. I love it. I’ve put a few cages in some Honda oval track cars as well as slight custom Chevy chassis’s for oval and figure 8 tracks. This suspension could be the next big thing for us as in keeping the shocks within the frame rails so that if our wheels do make contact and damage suspension it doesn’t damage a very expensive coilover.
@atom999
@atom999 5 жыл бұрын
Impressive. Looking forward to rear suspension.
@reckless1327
@reckless1327 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the calculations, very interesting. Big thumps up!
@hutchdw77
@hutchdw77 5 жыл бұрын
Your videos are the best, and most informative that I’ve seen. Thank you.
@trinitystallion8084
@trinitystallion8084 5 жыл бұрын
An engineering degree😂😂😂 but in all seriousness enough questions to enough enthusiast groups will get you your answer
@hyousufi
@hyousufi 5 жыл бұрын
Good follow up to the previous comments, it clears a lot of confusion for people who don’t know this field
@fedolfs
@fedolfs 5 жыл бұрын
I cannot wait to see this thing drive!
@TheKiltedYaksman1
@TheKiltedYaksman1 5 жыл бұрын
Man, looking at all that cutting and drilling, it seems like an abrasive waterjet should be in your future. Awesome build!
@chrisg4rr377
@chrisg4rr377 5 жыл бұрын
Nice. Just came across this video/channel. Now my new favourite series. That twin charged engine must be a monster
@Angel-HC
@Angel-HC 5 жыл бұрын
I really like the level of engineering used here. As someone who's fascinated by suspension design I definitely appreciated the level of analysis and reasoning you presented. Also, thanks for the explanation of the heim joint orientation. I was curious at the start why horizontal was better, more from a consideration of available travel compared to mounting vertically. I hadn't considered that the stress on the ball/socket interface from the longitudinal force on the suspension would be significantly higher compared to having them horizontal.
@dicktaylor2600
@dicktaylor2600 5 жыл бұрын
Great project,can't say I would be comfortable with some of those welds,especially where the inner damper mount is welded to that X member.
@dannysweeney3754
@dannysweeney3754 5 жыл бұрын
Nice deadlift. Good luck with rest of your build
@bindabbin6067
@bindabbin6067 5 жыл бұрын
As always thank you for some awesome knowledge!
@NSXTACY420
@NSXTACY420 5 жыл бұрын
Outstanding work, very nice fabrication and engineering.
@hannes6295
@hannes6295 5 жыл бұрын
Really amazing build! My favourite on youtube! No clickbate or nonesense, just kickass physics and build skills!. Keep it up!. Maybe you wanna do a pateron page?
@michmich9258
@michmich9258 5 жыл бұрын
this channel deserves more subscribers. keep the good work
@mianfazlerazik3636
@mianfazlerazik3636 5 жыл бұрын
The whole germany at one side and your engineering at the other. Hattts off.🙌🙌🙌🙌
@gh-cu1jh
@gh-cu1jh 5 жыл бұрын
Sir you have been one of my inspirations to become a mechanical engineer for automobiles and hadn't it been for my own project car rebuild and being a broke high school student I would fund this project, best of luck tho and for using math to shut these people down and to teach me a couple things on the way :)
@loganathanrangan1103
@loganathanrangan1103 5 жыл бұрын
Great job... great explanation.... looking forward for next update and learning...
@moedalgarny
@moedalgarny 5 жыл бұрын
Damn man.. Now thats how you build a car😁.. Can not wait to see it runing
@frosty98412
@frosty98412 5 жыл бұрын
You should write a book, seriously. Outstanding job!
@WadeRobrsn
@WadeRobrsn 5 жыл бұрын
This is absolutely amazing! The car will be very fast... You seem very defensive when addressing your critics. I could be wrong but either way I wouldn't get too upset about them if I were you. Your like to dislike ratio is clear evidence that the vast majority of your audience believes that you know what you're doing. Thanks for the awesome content. Highly technical custom stuff like this is few and far between.
@kalu1190
@kalu1190 4 жыл бұрын
Hats off to you my friend... You're a frickin' genious! Thanks for all this info!
@garageadz
@garageadz 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your build
@GrayFoxGamingHD
@GrayFoxGamingHD 5 жыл бұрын
This is giving me inspiration to desing my own racing car. Thanks man :)
@brunobalestra
@brunobalestra 2 жыл бұрын
Great series. I'm learning so much!
@marcwire9332
@marcwire9332 5 жыл бұрын
who ever the haters are they have no idea, we use basically the same materials to build suspension, at present the race team is building a new drift car same ball joints, drift puts that front lower arm under massive pressure and they still hold, in fact the only way to go due to the massive aggressive loadings involved would compress most bushes and create play in the steering. Love the design, very inspiring!
@curvs4me
@curvs4me 4 жыл бұрын
Brilliant way to build a chassis!
@hcfcustoms
@hcfcustoms 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your knowledge,this is just beautiful 👍👌. Cheers Johnny.
@curvs4me
@curvs4me 4 жыл бұрын
You're making an excellent chassis. No doubt about it.
@ehonda2718
@ehonda2718 3 жыл бұрын
Great video. Something to consider with your stress analysis is fatigue stress. You appear to have only considered the ultimate capacity of the tube, but in reality if that car will break it will be in fatigue.
@xr500t
@xr500t 5 жыл бұрын
OMG! your initial shot lifting the front end panicked me! Don't throw your back out, I'd like to see you finish and race this bad boy!
@WelkySchullin
@WelkySchullin 5 жыл бұрын
Great progress! looking for more!
@The_Angry_BeEconomist
@The_Angry_BeEconomist 5 жыл бұрын
this is the best petrol head channel on youtube
@justarandomweeb3220
@justarandomweeb3220 5 жыл бұрын
26:05 SHOTS FIRED!
@SJCDMAD232
@SJCDMAD232 4 жыл бұрын
I like the intermittent chuckles when explaining "All I have to do now..."
@rebel1988us
@rebel1988us 5 жыл бұрын
I know its is a ways out, but when you get to making the body panels you should take a look at Street Banditos' channel. One of them is making all the body panel from carbon fiber. I think the process they use might help you out once you get to that point. Love the build man.
@MLFranklin
@MLFranklin 5 жыл бұрын
Cool design, video, and narration.
@tiitsaul9036
@tiitsaul9036 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome. I was literally just minutes ago watching your older videos and wondering when are you going to upload new video. And then this one popped up in the suggested box.
@DeVoN420zz
@DeVoN420zz 5 жыл бұрын
front suspension mounts/ball joints do not look strong enough for CASTER type loads, Especially because SLA suspensions usually have a positive scrub radius, your scrub radius looks very negative.... The greater the scrub radius (positive or negative), the greater the steering effort and the more load it puts on parts and you get more road shock, pivot binding, torque steer, 0 degrees of scub is also bad it will wiggle, 17:44 your changing your scrub radius/ Steering axis inclination/ mechanical leverage
@alacnop
@alacnop 4 жыл бұрын
Effective scrub radius appears to be 0, not sure where you think the negative scrub radius is coming from. His steering axis appears to meet the tire center line at least during straight line travel.
@zdrafkoprhuda2494
@zdrafkoprhuda2494 4 жыл бұрын
He sai that he will have around 40mm positive scrub radius.
@autospeed
@autospeed 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent video man. Ignore all the idiots on reddit. Clearly you know what you're doing since you've built and tested these components. Keep the content coming, I'm glued to the screen everytime you put up a new video!! I was going to say I'm an engineer myself and would love more explanations of your calculations, even if you started a second channel dedicated to the maths that would be really awesome!
@bryantb3391
@bryantb3391 3 жыл бұрын
Awsome man been wanting to build a car but i would like to learn how to make my own suspension ive learned about pushrod style after wondering where the coil overs were on a f1 car also the setup u got and idea u got is awsome for a turbo
@kiamaz254
@kiamaz254 5 жыл бұрын
My fav YT channel.
@TJBRENTON
@TJBRENTON 3 жыл бұрын
Great stuff! Anyone who says this is too light weight, or it will fail when it see the track - Go look at most 60-70's Formula cars, or even stuff like a Mclaren M6. Where this guy is using 12mm rod ends, they used 8mm! Admittedly their fabrication is more aero grade. I reckon your safety factors have a safety factor ;-) Keep inspection regular and look for cracks. Not sure I like what you're doing at the end of the wishbones. Looks great and I look forward to catching up with your videos.
@angelmoreno9339
@angelmoreno9339 5 жыл бұрын
just incredible work, i have a question, did you consider doing finite element analisis on the desing of the car just to see where you could use weaker and ligther parts?
@ManMak6
@ManMak6 5 жыл бұрын
😂 “cars aren’t designed by people standing around and just looking”. Well truer words have not been spoken! P.S: I thought you weren’t going to give us a physics lesson! 😂
@HorsepowerIndustries
@HorsepowerIndustries 5 жыл бұрын
excellent work as always man!
@idriwzrd
@idriwzrd 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent work. What you accomplish with your modest tools is amazing. Had you given any consideration to mounting the dampers vertically to lower center of gravity?
@jdxtube68
@jdxtube68 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome video again! Thank you.
@hasanm3707
@hasanm3707 5 жыл бұрын
Great video. I have a question, you said you were using the same spring rate for front and rear. What consideration did you make for weight transfer?
@kevinr6236
@kevinr6236 5 жыл бұрын
Very cool build
@julianvideoproduction4797
@julianvideoproduction4797 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for explaining everything about pushrod suspension, very helpful. A different question,what’s the od and thickness of your tubes?they seem like 1.5” tube? Seem pretty beefy.
@robertfontaine3650
@robertfontaine3650 5 жыл бұрын
Wonderful... do the physics lesson. Suspension has always been some kind of magic for most of us.
@kaxbyrita9279
@kaxbyrita9279 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, really good stuff, intresting build and really good explanations 👍🏻
@Nickodelic
@Nickodelic 5 жыл бұрын
Nice build, video is very informative. Reminds me of FSAE!
@ThalisUmobi
@ThalisUmobi 5 жыл бұрын
Ohhh yeah! Glad i found your channel! I love it! And based on my empirical observations of KZbin's algorithm, you gonna have 100k subscribers in a few days!
@EvelOttos
@EvelOttos 4 жыл бұрын
What the hell... How am I JUST finding this KZbin channel??? More people need to see this. I don't know if it's KZbin's search engine or if you don't have enough tags or descriptions in your titles but your channel should have popped up on my radar a while ago.
@jalo1739
@jalo1739 5 жыл бұрын
Great job man, and good info I learned from you
@G4SSAM
@G4SSAM 5 жыл бұрын
Damn, man! That’s good, really really good
@MikkoRantalainen
@MikkoRantalainen 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! I wish you would have also mentioned pull rod suspension and the reason why you didn't go with it.
@icandreamstream
@icandreamstream 5 жыл бұрын
You should do an in-depth video about your suspension calculations and simulations, that's the most interesting part of the video to me
@gsmecanica
@gsmecanica 5 жыл бұрын
this is simply amazing
@kayzrx8
@kayzrx8 5 жыл бұрын
Don't listen to the arm chair racers, keyboard mechanics and wanna be engineers. You are doing amazing work on this and it is all based on calculations and theory, not a guesstimate. No need to justify yourself to these guys. Half of them couldn't solve a calculation or begin to understand the basic math needed.
@Otto_Factory
@Otto_Factory 5 жыл бұрын
Sub for learning something new, I did not know about the ball joint pivot points being in line.
@joehiden7475
@joehiden7475 3 жыл бұрын
Great video. I was looking for something like this. I am about to start on an Ariel Atom "Replicar".
@blackburd
@blackburd 4 жыл бұрын
I don't know why I ever thought I could design my own suspension by eye balling it. I'll never be this good at math.
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