Skidoo QRS secondary roller replacement

[@Kowalski301]

First of all, great video. I do have couple of small tips: The manual calls for a very thin layer of anti-seize outside the jackshaft bearing where it slips into the bearing tower. I also think the bearing calls for loctite retaining compound on the jackshaft, but it doubt it will slip... And speaking of slip, if you don't have a press, you can put the jackshaft in the freezer, and heat the bearing, and it will slip on without tools or just a thin plastic pipe to give it a slight bump to seat it.

[@tnort101]

Lol I cut my bearing off!!!!! And replaced it for what ever the bearing cost was. You are much wiser than I

[@mountainsleddergarage8627]

Thats Ok, at least you got it done.

[@jadwrench6056]

love the content and keep them coming! Its about time someone made a good vid of a QRS roller replacement with the roll pins. Did a few myself with the hex bolts. Sure is a time saver to change or just check the spring and helix. If the clutches have been aligned with shims don't forget to put them back. If it has there maybe one on the spline side, one next to the bearing, and one on the bearing retainer stud. If you loosen the chain it helps too.

[@CloudNine555]

On my 2020 Summit I was able to get the 4 torx bolts off the back of the secondary plate using a 1/4" T40 bit taped inside an 8" adjustable wrench. Turn the secondary such that the bolt is in the 2o'clock position each time. Thanks for the tip on replacing with hex bolts

[@robbyhiggins]

Great information and camera work. Thankyou.

[@mountainsleddergarage8627]

Thanks for your comments

[@SASBAY]

Very informative! Thank You sir!

[@garyburandt6877]

This video as well as the clutch removal video extremely well done. Can you suggest where to look for the tool used to compress the helix spring to remove the bolts? Or recommend which one is best? Can it be done without one? If a helper presses it down? Also do you happen to know the length of the bolts you replace with hex heads? Thanks!

[@101ktm]

Just a note: you don’t need to remove the bearing to access the pins from the back. You can remove the white flanged washer from the front and have the same access to the pins. Use an awl and pry the teflon washer out then use a 3/32 punch and drive the pins out.

[@101ktm]

Ignore this comment. I just watched your edited version. Nice work.

[@mountainsleddergarage8627]

I have this same video but with “revised content” that explains the process without taking the bearing off. It’s nice to not have to get the bearing removal tools.

[@robcurley4415]

Great video. Love your t shirt

[@tnort101]

New style QRS is very difficult, I had the same problem and had to remove the bearing to get the roll pin out.

[@CloudNine555]

Very well done video! Thanks!

[@roadglider00]

Great video. Thanks!

[@stephanvallee5167]

Best video i found A +++++

[@jacobjoeljoncas]

Great video

[@2000tng]

Great video ! I followed it to change out my broken rollers, but used zero special tools. What is the source of those helix spring teflons, I'd like to add those to mine.

[@Kowalski301]

The plastic springs washers is supposed to be there, but they are often stuck in the sheeve and helix, so you probably didn't notice them? But if they actually are gone, just pick them up from the dealer.

[@9kalltheway]

Did you notice any performance changes? Or clutching changes with the new rollers? Thank you for the video. Just installed mine. Curious to know if there is any changes. Thanks again!

[@mountainsleddergarage8627]

Unless your old rollers where damaged or severely worn, I doubt you’d see and change in how your clutching works

[@timothy761]

Does the Jack shaft bearing have to be removed to do the rollers or does it just make it easier?

[@mountainsleddergarage8627]

Going to edit my last answer a little. It is a lot easier to take the bearing off on the newer QRS clutch (like mine in the video), but it can be done without the bearing off. Some of the older QRS designs you do have to take the bearing off.

[@mountainsleddergarage8627]

Revised video shows how to do this

[@jean-francoisdupras2357]

At least one advantage a 4 stroke have. No engine reverse happens.

[@anythingadrenaline4515]

Can anyone assist? I have a 17' Summit and I'm feeling a ton of vibration on my feet. Track looks good. Can't find anything misaligned. It's like a humming sound.

[@johnduvall5]

I didn’t see lock tire on the roller screw in the video. Is it needdd with the roll pin?

[@mountainsleddergarage8627]

The screw that goes through the roller is securely held in place by the pin. So they shouldn’t need lock tight

[@johnduvall5]

@@mountainsleddergarage8627 Cool thank you! Do you have a link to the finger throttle you have on that sled?

[@mountainsleddergarage8627]

Munster is the only place making finger throttles. munstercanada.com/collections/featured-products/products/finger-throttle?variant=37173013676209

[@johnduvall5]

@@mountainsleddergarage8627 thank you! Just placed an order…. Serious carpal tunnel on my wrist effecting my thumb for throttling. Hoping this helps a bit

[@WildBill1984]

Just buy a good Roll pin punch set, I recommend Proto.

[@zeberkhan6190]

does the roller get damaged if you accelerate forward too fast?

[@mountainsleddergarage8627]

If the sled has been in reverse the roller will have to move to the forward position when going from reverse to forward. So yes it could if it’s been in reverse first. When it’s in forward, stopping and starting in forward the roller should stay in contact with the helix

[@zeberkhan6190]

@@mountainsleddergarage8627 Thank you! Now i know to do smooth transitions when switching. My 2017 ski doo summit 850 broke up in the mountains last year because both of the rollers broke in the secondary and I was a novice rider so I didn't know the difference how the sled rides when they break so I kept riding, and what had ended up happening was the top gear bolt in the chain case that goes into the jackshaft sheared and totally messed up my chain case in the mountains, I believe this was from the vibration from not having the rollers. Do you think that caused this problem? Sled would not move and we had to tow it out.

[@zeberkhan6190]

Also, do you know what causes the snow machine handle bars to vibrate at idle?

[@lostsledder]

@@zeberkhan6190 hahahahahaha good one - it's your engine running.

[@youareright5431]

A Friend of mine has a tool to do this job we without pulling the shaft? I thought it was common now 🤔🤔🤔

[@mountainsleddergarage8627]

I have the same video with added content that shows how to do it without pulling the bearing. It’s the same name but added “revised” in the name

[@Atomic173]

Is it not possible to punch out the retaining pin from the helix side in order to avoid removing the jack shaft bearing?

[@mountainsleddergarage8627]

Yes, it is. I revised the video and added how to do that. Unfortunately i can’t just add it to the current KZbin video, I had to make and download a whole new video. It’s called, Skidoo QRS roller replacement (revised video with new content)

[@ezrabisson3610]

This is the chit that drives me crazy with doo. Just wanting to do a long weekend out west is a bs shop commitment after-work as apposed to 10 min in the trailer with a cat or a poo . Engeners with 2 much time on there hands