Can I Make a Breakdown Bed for LARP?

[@SkillTree]

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[@chrisgriffith9252]

Um The other channel used a skull puppet

[@queenmidna4998]

Hear me out. A leather bag to hold the wood for the bed frame. Perhaps one that has the Logo for a certain merchant who always comes up with clever contraptions lol. Or perhaps some kind of nice sturdy cloth. It could be used to roll up the stick frame, but maybe unravel to add another layer of besides the black bands. Idk if it'll work😅, but it might be a good idea.

[@dragonis003]

You might want to add handles to the crates, something that is easy on the hands in case you have to carry your bed a long distance. Also, is this meant to be setup in a field or on a tarp? That pine will not last long if placed directly onto the ground so you might want to think about adding some sort of water resistance to the corners and legs.

[@prcervi]

he made the tent a while back so assuming not for open field, unless disaster happens

[@annbrookens945]

I was going to suggest handles, too! Much easier for carrying a crate.

[@CalicoShadowPlusCat]

You could also use treated lumber meant for outside construction. Plus putting on a waterproofing finish (along the lines of decking sealant) would go a long way to keeping it for the long run. Using untreated lumber will eventually warp with any exposure to humidity and after a few uses even if it is only used in a tent it will not be able to close as it did when you first made it.

[@johnwright6706]

​@@CalicoShadowPlusCat when it's remade it could be made out of cedar or some other resistant wood. Much easier to splurge on expensive wood when you're not building a prototype or test-type build. Marine grade plywood would also fit that category and potentially fit the 10 foot rule.

[@CalicoShadowPlusCat]

@@johnwright6706 Excellent suggestions! I would still regard a cheaper product with treated wood since the treatment process would weather the wood and prevent twisting and could be used regardless of ambient humidity. We have a similar type of construction for our SCA encampment and had folding bed constructions with flooring for our tent as well as some japanese style furnishings to keep in period authenticity. Cedar can be cost prohibitive for average LARPers and treated pine is at a price point that makes things that last a while, yet if cost was not an issue I agree with you in using cedar! Excellent point you made.

[@dominuspopuli]

I love it. For a quick suggestion: Turn it into a canopy bed so you can have a mosquito net?

[@asbrand]

As a re-enactor of nearly 37 years, as well as a maker / user of a slat bed, I will offer this piece of advice: Get some old wool army blankets and put them on the slats before the air mattress. Not only will this protect the mattress from splinters (it did not appear that you sanded or rounded over any edges), it will also provide a thermal break between the open air under the bed and the mattress. This will help prevent the air in the mattress from getting cold, which in turn, will help make YOU not cold, and give you a better night's sleep. Ask me how I know this... ;-) As a woodworker, I have a lot of other comments I could make, but I don't want to come across as a jerk. I do like the idea of your design. That original "bed-in-a-box" was created by a guy in the SCA, and he first published it on "The Armour Archive", a forum for medieval re-enactors, many years ago. As designed, not only is it a big box...it is VERY heavy.

[@SeeMeRolling]

I'd love it if someone made a a less heavy design that is cheap and easy to make, as I am wheelchair bound and often bed ridden due to pain, I could really use it

[@AzraelThanatos]

With the corners, you could use the laser and cut some overlays for them to add a more celtic knotwork style to it. Also, considering the air mattress, I would suggest adding a canvas sheet to the slats as a just in case protection layer, perhaps also something to protect the lower edges of the bed's corners to deal with softer ground and to add some protection to the wood because it's outdoor furniture so it will need to deal with the damp along with everything else there. As a side note, have you considered an archers buckler since you seem focused on a Ranger style character for costuming, add a bit of defense and flair to wielding a bow. I don't think your old buckler would work for it as you kind of want to go with hand straps for it rather than a handle and it might be a bit to thick...plus the spike isn't LARP friendly

[@VelaiciaCreator]

Your tent is gonna be so KITTED for this LARP return. Very jelly and proud.

[@SkillTree]

I HOPE so lol. Gonna try and make it swag in there😅

[@VelaiciaCreator]

@@SkillTree Now it'll be the food tent AND the furniture tent.

[@johnconner9296]

​@Skill Tree you should make a video with a tent your showing all your stuff

[@ThePomoAa]

With more hinges, you could have a fully foldable frame ! You could reduce the size of the folded bed by cutting the slats in two, like they do in IKEA beds. It would require some smart positioning or a double central piece, but it makes the bed far narrower, once folded. Also, to not lose those nuts and bolts, you could make a false bottom into one of the crates to put them all in

[@gregbrightwell662]

The bolts and nut storage idea is mint

[@EloraDragonwing87]

Very cool! I think what I would do differently is: a) Bend the very top of those pins holding the crates together so that they were easier to remove b) Maybe have the sideboards be more like the rails on drawers/keyboards, where they slide apart to max length instead of hinges. Though I don't know how sturdy they would be, I'm not someone who works with wood often. c) Instead of slats that go across the bed, I'd go for more of a rope bed, because rope is easier to pack away than slats. d) Add rope handles on all sides of the crates so that they'd be easier to move around. Congrats on the 100k! Love what you do and hope you continue leveling up your subscribers skill XD

[@tracy4290]

Rope gives a hammock effect, so that could be a plus or a minus depending on preferences.

[@ryanrevis827]

Better than rope would be to spilt the slats down the middle of the bed making 2 rolls of them, one for each side, and they could pack into the crates.

[@sportzchik95]

I love that the more excited he gets, the bluer his tongue looks 😂

[@aaronring4704]

Audience: *points at flask" What is it? Cl3v3r: *mischievous smirk* It's blue!

[@Loffstadt]

Also you'd probably find that dovetail and pin trick you used to hold the boxes together would work on the frame. Overlapping dovetail where the hinge is. Round stock pin drops in to hold the frame together means you don't need the support on the sides I'd also suggest doubling up the floor of the boxes. You can then place them under the corners of the bed. Reduces the pressure if the ground is soft so your bed doesn't immediately sink into the ground

[@sahriahthebard]

Dude, that idea using the floor of the boxes is genius!!!

[@Loffstadt]

@@sahriahthebard Looks like genius. Actually just 20+ years larping in muddy fields & other festivals and seeing chair and tables sink into soft ground. 😁

[@SilentSooYun]

Congrats on 100k+! One small mod that might be useful is to put a 90-degree bend in one end of the pin to make them easier to pull. Then when they're in place, you can just push them over to one side to keep them from catching on the bedding. Also, the bent pin won't accidentally slip out of the hole during travel

[@DH-xw6jp]

He can also use the nail style tent stakes as his pins. It will give him 4 extra stakes for putting together his tent.

[@AlmostCouture]

The only thing I would add is a good tarp underneath the air mattress or you could also use your leather scraps and piece together one large hide to prevent splinters from piercing the mattress. Congrats 🎈🎊🎉 on 100k

[@blacknailsthepirate]

This is very clever! I love how well it packs down for transport and storage. Also the ad break was fun and well done

[@jim7217]

Yes the ad break was clever - Griffon tears = mana potion - love it!

[@cetx]

The tip about going with the grain and not against it is super helpful. I've never thought about that before, and can only imagine how many of my woodworking projects have made that mistake. Live and learn!

[@dawsie]

Love the concept of the Bed in a Box 😹😹 defiantly a new spin on the idea, but also very useful for packing other items needed for the LARP trips. If you make a duffle-bag to hold the sides and slats for the bed when travelling that opens out to also double up as a ground cover for the bed and floor of the tent. This way you are setting the box-bed on to something that it’s not sitting on bare ground while camping and will give you floor covering for in the tent. Would love to see the whole setup once you have that part figured out.

[@OtherThanIntendedPurpose]

grats on the 100k, that is not a dovetail joint, it is a finger joint. if you were to get a fur hide large enough, you could roll the parts ( other than the leg/boxes) into it, and wrap it with a leather thong, much the way a bed roll is made, the hide would also serve as ether an additional blanket, or a covering for the mattress. with a small cloth or leather pouch to carry the hardware, the entire bundle becomes easy to pack, carry and unpack for use.

[@SkillTree]

Thank you! I thought that was wrong because it lacks the "dovetail" shape that locks it in place but when I googled a list of joints it was listed as a "through dovetail". Should have checked across multiple resources Lol. Live and learn.

[@black_dragon-carpentry]

It's actually a box joint. Finger joints are multiple comb like matched protrusions mostly used to join two pieces of material together lengthwise.

[@GunslingerDragon]

So, an assortment of suggestions; the first of which is to get a Japanese style roll-up/fold-up mattress. They wind up small, and will keep the medieval vibe a lot better while still having modern comforts and faster setup. For the box itself, I would suggest making it to have interior dimensions of 25" x 12.67", about the size of a nice cooler and easily manageable. Using box/tongue-in-groove joints with some sturdier hinges, with a hinge locking pin, you can have it tri-fold in both dimensions out to size for a twin mattress. You might be able to keep one or both sides of the frame beams permanently mounted with some clever hinge usage, and similarly permanently mount (possibly rotating) mid-supports if additional strength is needed. Ideally, when closed into a box, all of the main supports should form the bottom of the crate, eating into the space some but leaving a suitable crate (flip upside down to get the elevated bed during assembly). Similarly, making the cross-slats fold in half, with the now larger dimensions will also tuck neatly inside (potentially at the same floor level as the other frame members, depending on quantity and thickness). Sized correctly, you should be able to pack all your bedding, your mattress, pillow(s), and the entire bed into a neat package the size of a standard cooler, with no need to manage any extra pieces elsewhere. Add a lid/base to keep it fresh if desired, ideally use some cedar in the build to keep bugs away. All pins and hardware should have a place to be retained somewhere inside the crate when disassembled to avoid loss. As noted, some decoration could take it to the next level, and I would suggest the addition of handles or handholds for ease of transport. Leather or brass reinforcements on the corners will resist the nicks and dings to be expected with adventuring and look nice. Threaded leveling feet tucked into the corners and support bits can give that little extra comfort in case of an unlevel campsite (or at least some stackable sleeved feet to lift if needed). Finally, a topcoat/varnish/etc probably wouldn't be amiss.

[@neon-zaku]

you should make the crates more... Crate-y? like steel bands or extra wood bits to really give it that kinda vineyard crate-esque vibe? and maybe hinges in the slats? or half+3inch length slats that alternate that are still bound by the strap in the middle so you could fold those in half?

[@TheMichaellathrop]

So one quick thing I noticed, when you get the better Ikea beds the roll of slats has the strapping go over and under on alternating boards, sometimes doubling up with one strap above and one strap below each board and then alternating between adjacent boards.

[@Loffstadt]

Room saver. Classic Rope Bed. What you'll find with the 'Bed in the Box' you replace the base slats with rope. Takes longer to set up but the rope weaving through the frame helps with structural integrity (also the origin of the term 'Sleep Tight')

[@MarcRitzMD]

Tip: look into knock-down fasteners. That is exactly the kind of product category that you'd benefit from here. They are designed for quick, easy reassemblies and structural support.

[@corythomas474]

bronze bolts for one would look great. A headboard that turns into like. a handtruck/carry kit for the crates would also be good

[@artystars204]

i so wanna do this for my house, it will be an awesome guest bed

[@annbrookens945]

What I was thinking!!!

[@pourmeaglassofmalkk]

Exactly!!! It'd also be practical if you move a lot. It definitely seems like a lot less of a hassle than an actual bed since it's actually made to be disassembled often

[@samuelswearingen8435]

Cl3ver, I would suggest using rope instead of wood slats. Take a look at rope beds from about the 1700's - 1800's. For the runners along the side I would say turn them the other way, so the hinge is on the outside of the bed. That way the tension pulling on the inside will help keep the runners against each other. I know this may not get to you in time for the LARP, however it will give you some ideas before the next one. Good luck, and have fun.

[@thomasbreitkreutz976]

The woodworker in me is like its a box joint not a dove tail but love the idea for the bed. One thought I was having was instead of slats using netting or canvas. You might have to change the direct of your center support though to help maintain tension. Also for the stringers it would be cool if it could be a sliding joint instead of a hinge.

[@jeffeppenbach]

As a general thought, you could use the "slat mat" to wrap around your frame parts. That way, it's also doing double duty.

[@FarmerRiddick]

Keep 'Wink' and get a folding 4 X 8 utility trailer. (1195 lbs GVW) They cost about $520 and weigh about 250 lbs. 'Wink' should be able to handle it and your probably not going to haul much over 500lbs on it... unless you are bringing a large keg of something. Plus, the trailer folds up and leans against a wall when not in use. BUILD IDEA! Hey! You could build a medieval hand cart to haul stuff from the parking area to your camp site and haul it on the trailer as well!

[@TheSaxonrogers]

You taught a bonus skill and didn't even realize! By rounding over the "tongue" end of the joint used to hold the crates together, that's a way to make hinges!

[@autumninthenavy]

I would have added handle cutouts on the sides of the “boxes”, near the top. Cutouts are unobtrusive, and they make hauling the bed-as-a-box around a lot easier on your hands

[@cutelunchlady]

What an awesome build! Maybe to store the bed slats/frame sides, you could build a 3rd crate - and use its walls as a headboard?

[@KevinLockamy]

Not exactly sure how well this will work but, the ratchet/clamp straps that the slats are stapled to. Instead of looping the first strap and securing it with the clamp, staple that slat as well. This will leave the clamp free. allowing you to use the slats to wrap around all the long pieces, then securing with the clamp and loose end making one big bundle. Also, maybe wrap the strap around the end two slats and tacking it to the under side of both with another staple or two. This will put the tension on slats and not directly on the staples. if lucky there my even be enough strap left over to tie together making a carry handle. Idea 2, the pieces of wood that support the crate bottoms can be extended below the crates slightly. This will form a little ridge making the crates stackable like milk crates.

[@MtnMorgan]

One way to jazz it up, use that laser engraver and cutter.... Make those panels pop with a fun/themed design!

[@joshuamcallister4932]

Recommendations: treating the wood to help it resist moisture, handles on the "box" sides maybe even removable so they don't effect the look of the bed, a cover or fitted sheet to hide the inflatable mattress. if you really want to reduce weight and bulk as much as possible the block that holds the slats in tension could be replaced with a notch in the wood they sit on, either for the first and last slat or for all of them.

[@MichaelBransonCoach]

Next project: Collapsible 2 wheel handcart to carry the bed, kitchen and supplies from the car to the campsite. Bonus if it turns into a tent (or even a bed) with enough space to fit everything. Dual screw-apart handles would make good tent poles. Wheels and axle can double as a roasting spit for the essential hog feast along the way. (or wheels of chance to help fleece the odd traveler along the road)

[@tiffanybledsoe4591]

So I have ideas on holding the bed frame. 1)I'm kind of wondering if there could be a folding headboard that forms the long sides of a rectangular crate. One pin gets used as a latch for locking the folded edges together. In my head, its tall enough to slide all the folding pieces of bed frame into and then have two square pieces of wood at the ends with rope handles to close off the crate ends. I don't have a good idea how to attach the headboard to the frame though... 2) just make a wooden chest to hold the bed frame pieces. Once you set up the bed, you then have extra storage. Also, congratulations on 100K!! Thank you for all the awesome ideas and inspiration!

[@kenward3918]

I Love the Idea , as a SCA member that pack a whole camp in a smaller vehicle, beds can be a blessing to have and a curse to transport, so I will be taking ideas from this project. As for add on ideas, Dressing it up with wood burning , carve, or embellishment on the boxes would pop as both storage crates and as bed posts, the hinge legs can also be dressed up as well, also perhaps replacing the hinges with black iron ones or brass ones for a more a medieval / fantasy look ,.I would also add rope handles for easier portability of them in crate form. Adding to this again ,,,,, perhaps turning the box bottoms into some form of add on headboard most folk do hate loosing pillows in the night to the cold damp ground

[@Earendilgrey]

This is awesome, only thing I would add would be handles on the boxes to make them easier to carry. Either leather ones or cast iron looking ones to keep on theme. Also as others have suggested a leather or canvas bag/cover for the edges and slats that you can also use between the frame and the matress to reduce the chance of any sharp edges/splinters puncturing the air matress

[@danielcoffey4972]

I've been following your levelups for a little over a year and I feel like this is the turning point for you. Look forward to entering the big leagues of niche builders on youtube. I am so proud of how far you've come and I am so glad to be a fan. You provide me with so much inspiration to keep innovating and trying new things even with no prior experience in any given construction field. You're my heroes. :)

[@clayweaver2066]

A really super interpretation of the bed-in-a-box! I am curious to see how those wide bed legs will fare with uneven ground, but I love the design. As to the rest of the frame, maybe a re-purposed golf bag? They have lots of pockets for ... stuff.

[@Caeleinn]

I have been working on my own version of a pack-able camp bed, but your design has totally outdone mine. I love the idea of making the legs into boxes; I'll be taking that idea, thank you very much. I'll also need for the side frames to fold, so it was nice to see how you handled this.

[@GenesisOfSouls]

Could always make an in character blanket bundle bag to hold the frame so that you can carry the frame in that instead of anormal duffle bag and so that they whole bed storage is using parts of the bed.

[@0dwin]

Seeing the bottoms of the crates just set aside, made me wish they could have been made into a nightstand or banner holder or something to add to the campsite other than leftover wood under the bed.

[@nicholasromano1422]

Exactly what I was thinking! If you added legs attached to the bottom that would nest against the "sides" in each corner of the box then each "bottom" would flip over and become a small (irregular) table

[@Agent4077]

what came to my mind was instead of two square crates, you'd have a pair of rectangular crates, one to hold your bedding the other containing the frame. they'd be ~ 25" by 35" one joined in the L7 style the other mirrored so that the long sides would be together. the frame boards would be similar to this video, but the long side cut in thirds with flush hinges and the short side cut in half to fit in the boxes. the long sides wouldn't need additional support because they would be resting on the crates. the middle slats would be in two parts supported by the middle piece (which is hinged in thirds with support legs) and joined together by actual dove joints or better.

[@JCTXFF]

“because I don’t think things thru thoroughly”, that made my pilk come out of my nose.

[@heatherholland1051]

As always great build. I have two suggetions, take as you will. Might be a good idea to coat the wood that will be in the ground with a protective coating of some sorts. I'm almost think a rubber truck bed matterial. Also if you are worried about the wood popping your air mattress, simply put a cheep tarp or thin blanket over the slats before the matress. Thought I had going back and watching these new builds again. You should do a video review on the new gear you made and took to Reckoning this year.

[@Rebecca-zw4pm]

Excellent idea! A couple of coats of rubber wood protectant, such as Flex Seal would work well.

[@ArmoredGaming1990]

My guy, I know exactly what you need to jazz up this set-up. A leather carry sack for storing and protecting the wood beams from the weather when not in use! And you can reuse the carry sack to hold extra stuff when the bed is set up like storing your bow and quiver! And make it a drawstring sack with a flap cover to further protect from harsh elements. Also you didn’t weather treat the wood like you did with your cloak and gloves.

[@Wi-Fi-El]

Awesome! If you want to do a side project, a lot of medieval beds had a square frame that hung from the ceiling of a tent or house, and it would have curtains hanging from it. It was somewhat similar to the curtains that divide rooms in hospitals

[@renataravensong]

YES! Morgan Donner has a hella good vid on that kind of bed/bedcurtain!!

[@Wi-Fi-El]

@@renataravensong I think I've seen some of her videos. She makes historical clothing, right?

[@dougmartin2007]

That is a great way to keeps bugs from bothering you during the night.

[@StephenHutchison]

Like Doug Martin says, keeping bugs out -- you probably even want to use mosquito netting.

[@frenchfriar]

Back when we did LARPing, I had a bed we strung with rope, originally for an air mattress but eventually we used a futon mattress on. Luckily, we had a luggage rack on top of the car, so we didn't have to cut down the longer pieces. The legs were lengths of 4"×4", the sides and ends were 2"×4", and we used dowels to peg everything together. We used clothesline rope strung like a tennis racket to hold the mattress, and it made an extremely comfortable bed. It did take a while to string it, though. Looked fantastic with a sheepskin thrown over it, and kept us very warm. Also had tons of storage space underneath. I like what you've done here, though, it seems nice and solid.

[@glennmyers2861]

First of all, I love this project, but if I had the time I might make a few alterations. If you cut the sides of the crate at a 45° angle, you can make the four legs into a single crate, instead of two crates. Building a second crate that breaks down into separate panels could get you six panels to use in place of the slats. You can get another two panels, if the crates have lids. Increase the crate dimensions to 20' by 20'. Eight panels laid next to each other in a two by four panel arrangement gets you 40' by 80' sleeping surface. I don't trust the bolts and wingnuts not to get lost, so maybe switch out for toolbox latches. Also, I'd paint pips on each of the crates sides, so you can have dice to play giant craps.

[@crunchydragontreats6692]

I hope you find these suggestions helpful. The 75” pieces (side rails and center support) cut into thirds making then about 25”. Use “Loose pin hinges” so they come apart completely for more nesting option for transportation. For the outer rails use black decorative fence gate hinges, remove the pin and replace with a nail painted black. Put the hinges on the outside for an upgraded aesthetic look. Add 3 support legs where needed as you have done already. Upgrade the center support to a 2x4 to support the modified slats and again cut into thirds using loose pin hinges to hold them together. Move the center strap just off center and cut the slats in half. (Approximately 27”) Place the loose pin hinges so that the hinge is on the butt end of the slats. (Note the 2x4 upgrade above to give better support the slats at center.) This keeps the slats flush to the mattress. Use bent wire to secure the hinges for easy build and “strike”. (Theatre term meaning to disassemble.) The loose pin hinges will allow you to flip pieces end to end for nesting options that better fit your transportation space limitations. These shorter lengths and loose pin hinges will give you greater flexibility for transportation. Lastly, simple rope handles for the crates. I suggest placing them so they fall on either side of the bed at the head and foot. These can then be used as anchor points along with additional ropes top and bottom for the poles you put up to hold the canopy over your bed. Use the same metal tube joint method you used for the walking stick for the posts. 74” posts cut in “thirds”makes them the same length as you rails and center support. 54” posts cut in “half” makes them the same length as your slats. Grab your ketchup and crunch away my friends.

[@DH-xw6jp]

Add handles to the crates. Either cut outs, or rope straps, it'll make them easier to carry. You can also replace your homemade crate pins with the nail style tent stakes, it'll give you additional stake for setting up camp. And don't drink when using a table saw please, you kinda need to keep your fingers as a craftsman.

[@kenrichard8870]

Love it! I wonder if you could use the bottoms of the boxes to make a kind of headboard? Whenever I have used a freestanding bed like that, I always lose my pillows. 😀

[@mikevwca6211]

For the bed rails storage needs, what if you made a deep basket (basket weaving skill?) that could be worn with backpack like straps that can also double as a sword storage at camp? Think something like a golf bag. Load it with your bed rails into the car, when bed is built to then leave the basket nearby to then put some things in it at the end of the night, like your weapons, walking sticks or wizard staffs?

[@Bug0styles]

I was thinking straps (ratcheting tie down or framing) or rope to to hold it together rather than the bolts. Also I feel your boxes need handles, boat cleats I think would be good. Plus would provide spots to secure frame with rope.

[@Zeldur]

9:39 I actually recently bought a door hinge that has a sliding pin. Specifically, it was a "1.5" Detachable Hinge, Small Slip Joint Flag Hinges, Lift Off Detachable Door Hinges, 304 Stainless Steel." Not sure if it would work in this application, but it is useful knowing it exists 👍

[@brucelee3388]

They are actually a standard hinge for doors - loose pin hinges - and come in sizes up to 4" (100mm) tall. The idea is you can pull the pins and take the door down to paint or repair the door. Cheap construction companies use 'fixed pin' hinges to save something like 5c per hundred hinges and coincidentally stop the home owner from working on their own home and maybe finding more short cuts that have been done.

[@cinderpsycho1985]

Nice to see you enjoying those blue lagoon drinks

[@SkillTree]

Close! Def made with the same blue magic😋

[@Cursedzeba]

I love this. Uk larper here and I have to use the train so its beyond me right now sadly but saving this for later for sure!

[@MarcRitzMD]

You could have used much better metal connectors (like those by Knapp) for connecting the two long halves of the side boards, instead of using a hinge and an additional leg. The hinge isn't a good a idea there because they aren't at all supposed to carry any loads. Imagine if you had even just a flat metal bracket that is permanently attached to one side and connected to the other with a removable bolt. That would have had plenty of structural rigidity and a simplicity that costs a dollar.

[@kameljoe21]

So after watching for a bit. One could make this out of aluminum. It might be pricey yet it could be much lighter, smaller and more you can have custom logos, designs cut right in to the box sections. If you take 2 of the L foot shapes and place them apart from each other the opposite direction and then lay down 2 of them you should be able to form a rectangle box, because the box will have etching and cut outs you will need a heavy canvas bag that goes inside to hole every thing and to store all of the storage parts. Now if done right you could then make the rest of it with pipes that click in to one another. For the bed rails you use some sort of hook type things that set over the top of the main bar and with a full size bed you would have 2 main bar center supports and 3 pipe sections. Depending on how big the box can be and how big you make the L shape things you could just do one. The hooks would look really cool. You could then have 3 large wheels and a handle thing that works as a cart these wheels can be aluminum and look quite old like black smith wheels and or something with rubber tires or some type of fake wood wheel that is a disk of aluminum that has bolts welded all around it an then you cut your wood wheel blocks and dado out a depth and counter sunk holes and then put the wood on and lock down with washer and nut (think 8 pieces that are cut at an angle and placed on locked in ) then glue and plug the hole and then lay the templet circle down and cut the excess off and then sand and stain. All one and looks fancy with some squareish edges on the inside. You will then be able to set this up pretty quick. I am sure someone could come up with something. i guess you could make it of steel as well. The goal would to make it so every thing just pins in place with pins and cotter pins. Very simple and easy to build. If one does it of steel then welded studs are super easy and then pin them. For example angle iron could be attached to the angle braces with 4 studs and then locked down with pins. You could then cut some shapes out and or etch, paint, some stuff on to it. It could be quite simple to make a head board and or weapons stand at one end as well. Doing all of this in to some kinda of fusion 360 or cad and making sure it all packs away in to a tight box. That would be key. SInce you are at doing the bed you might as well make the vanity too. Keep in mind you can add in wood panels in these things as well. Vanty. Table, weapon storage. Tent poles to redo the canvas tent in to an 8 sided shape or in a shape that fits the bed and then things like the vanity fixs in a panel section or where 2 panels meet. With the 8 sided shape and the 2 sides longer you can have 2 entrances and the ability to the whole front section open so that they can view the bed set center. Vanity to one side (think twinke shape) armory stand to the other and then a couple of chairs which are made from the same type of cut out steel and then a rope net construction with a ton of blankets laid on it. You would be the rich mid evil guy who has a blacksmith on hand.

[@kelseywatts589]

OK, see if the frame fits inside the crates, use them as end caps, for lack of a better description. The bedding might then be wrapped around the lot. Use the flesh side of the fur to start the wrap to protect against fabric catching on the frame in transit. Two long leather straps or fabric straps could hold the wrapping together and one extra long for the length. Recommend oiling the parts of the frame that are in contact with the ground. Because oil penetrates the wood, it will last longer against scuffing. Also with over 100K supporters, Please encourage safety while using power tools and chemicals, especially. Some of your viewers won't have our shared trades experience and training but will be enthusiastic about giving this a try. I love the ingenuity and effort that goes into the process and your demos, I only wish positive experiences for those who are inspired by your channel.

[@Mu-podcast]

Congrats on the subscription level up! You guys put in a lot of work and it shows with every video. Very well done indeed. One thing that I thought of for this iteration of the bed is to find a way to mount the crate bottoms to the headboard of the bed to keep pillows from sliding back. That would make use of those pieces, and takes care of a potential inconvenience during the night of fishing behind you for your pillow on the floor. Just put a cloth across the backing so it's softer and you don't end up getting your pillows of you scratched up by the plywood.

[@victoriajankowski1197]

Maybe create a laced leather bag to hold all the other bed bits that lays out under the mattress to provide protection between the air mattress and the frame?

[@wafflecone-w5d]

Medieval beds actually used rope instead of wooden slats so maybe making some sort of net support would reduce the amount of lumber you're hauling and give you another storage option

[@Seiaeka]

I absolutely love the ingenuity of turning the pieces into usable crates! I've been playing around with my own couple of designs for a few years now, but I don't have the space to work on large materials/store a bed-in-a-box. Turning it into crates could work nicely for long-term storage too by turning it into furniture you can still use around your home or for storing your off-season larp gear.

[@ModernKnight]

wow, wonderful that you guys have hit the 100K plus subbers. Really enjoy your work.

[@SkillTree]

Thank you kindly! Perhaps I shall one day be a big enough channel to merit crossing the pond to visit your corner of the world and learn some knightly arts from the master! Love your content!

[@ModernKnight]

@@SkillTree If you do find a decent ship to bring you over to this old place, I'd be delighted to work with you. A bit of modest mounted melee, a fragment of learning the lance from horseback and maybe some fine mead and a decent campfire?

[@SkillTree]

@ModernKnight now THAT sounds like a worthy adventure! I would love a chance to work with you and learn a bit of the skills you have honed. Also, mead around a campfire is ALWAYS a welcomed resolution to a long day.

[@CodedLockFilms]

Excellent build! I would recommend one additional blanket to place between the air mattress and the frame, just to help prevent any potential hard corners or errant splinters from puncturing the mattress.

[@bryanstrahm9961]

I agree with some of the other commentors, adding a canvas layer between the slats and the air mattress will help prevent punctures. Handles on the "box" sides for assisting with transport. Otherwise: this is awesome. If I was regularly LARPing, this might be a project I'd take on.

[@MacAttack001]

Congratulations on the +100K high water mark! You should have another Wood skill, "Locating Straight Lumber". Looks like you are leveling up THAT one as well! :)

[@sageandstone8977]

I'd make a packing bag out of canvas that can fold out to be an underlayer under your air mattress, which will help protect your air mattress from faults in the wood, while acting as a carrier bag/storage solution for the wooden frame... and looking a bit more period-esque to boot.

[@handyhippie6548]

if you just stapled the strapping on to the frame slats and left the buckle free, when you roll it up you can run the tail end of the straps through the buckles to keep the roll together. you can make a couple of leather straps to hold the outside frame boards together from leather scraps and buckles.

[@danieltaylor5231]

You could get an old duffle bag and then cut it into segments that you can snap together. The segments could then be like little curtains to cover the gaps between the corner supports so no one can see what you store under your bed. Also the add placement was pretty slick but damn you for not telling us what's in that Romulan ale looking cocktail.

[@IsNotAPipe]

If you reenforce the Center bar to support the slats on either side instead of on top, you can cut the slats in half (plus the width of the center bar) and lay them out on either side of the bar. The slats will be half the size, but you’ll have two stacks of them to carry around

[@GamerJules_]

Congratulations on the 100k milestone! 🎉🎉🎉

[@jesperstoringgaard8367]

My thoughts on improvements: Make the bottom of the feet waterproof, or at the least water resistant. If you have to set it up in the rain, or drag some water in it could destroy the boards. Add storage for the metal pins inside the boxes, or they would disapear Handles on the boxes

[@odgreen9113]

Hinges are great. Cutting the dove tail and making the retaining pin was way cooler.

[@LaineyBug2020]

You could hinge the slats at the point of the center beam. Or use the dovetail/pin system at the center beam point. Or just drill holes at intervals of the side frame boards to run ropes through and use tension to hold them tight. That's how actual medieval beds were made according to Morgan Donner's channel.

[@TheRealMonkeyrogue]

Multiple smaller crates vs one large bulky crate. Turn the frame itself into two crates. But you have a lot of options. Looks great

[@MitchellDowns]

Congrats on the 100K - well deserved. 🎉

[@andreabellani7848]

Nice work! I would find a way to use the bottom of the boxes too. Perhaps painting them with your logo and using to decorate the sides of the bed?

[@annamolly1261]

You could add handles (or cutout) to the box for easy carry. A set of hinges and locking pin to connect the boxes so you can carry them together like a trunk. A pair of hinged 45° braces to act as set of arms to cradle the slats and frames as you carry the joined boxes. Additionally you could top the braces with box bottoms to act as an optional side table when in bed mode. A few extra bits but self contained for transport/carrying to and from campsite.

[@dougmartin2007]

I really like this build. I went with a "Viking Bad" design for mine. I originally cut the four pieces of wood for the fram out of cheap 2x4. This needs to be replaced with some good hardwood about 12 inches wide to give the bed some height. The slats are literally just rope. After the four pieces of wood are pushed together with some peg and holes to keep them aligned, I drilled holes 6 inches a part and ran the rope through top to bottom and side to side to make a hash pattern. It works wonderfully with whatever mattress on it.

[@joesamsally]

Bed bundle could be one of those rollout privacy walls? If the slats were halved in width but doubled in quantity it would reduce the dead spacing. This way when your in crate mode you could have mural with your adventuring party or map of the region on the not strapped side. Attached to your crates for support. This would give you walling off a section of the room, which could be useful in senarios where you do have access to a bed but want to privacy to ward a section of a barracks style room. Or could be hung vertically.

[@slashkitty13]

Add some more boxes under the bed if you size it up, that will add support/weight distribution. You may need to make a new tent to fit your bed.

[@marcchoronzey3923]

Great version of the classic SCA bed-in-a-box. And without specialised hardware too! Well done.

[@nickarchdekin4918]

I'm looking at this for an SCA camping event, I wonder how it would do on uneven

[@barry_t]

when I used to larp, long ago, I put a blanket under my inflatable mattress, it insulated the air in it, and kept me warmer...but I was on the ground...as for your bed, it might help still and prevent the mattress rubbing on the wood and failing sooner...a thought, as you have all that wool blankets... :)

[@ingerteodora5413]

Very cool concept, I like that you put your own spin on it. A simple improvement would be some foam sleeping mats between the air matress and the frame. It would both protect the matress from the wood, and add an insulation layer. Air matresses are fine when it's warm, but they offer very little in terms of protection from the cold. Your reasoning when it comes to wood grain makes very little sense though. Wood fibers are a lot stronger than the connection between the fibers. Just try breaking a flat piece if wood and see where it gives in first. I think I remember reading that a 4 inch trunk is strong enough to support the weight of a small car, as long as it's all downward pressure. It's not going to matter in a small piece like this, but if the legs of the bed were longer it could be an issue. The advantage of doing it the way it's done here is that the fiber ends soak in a lot more water than the other sides. So for a structure that is intented to be used outdoors, not having the fiber ends facing the ground is probably a good thing. I still second all the recommendations to treat the bottom of the crates to protect the wood though.

[@sickenlysweete1800s]

How about a couple underbed drawer boxes, that hold the extra frame pieces, then used as storage when the bed is used.

[@thehungryVampiress]

I have a project request! I go to sca event and often camp for days. After a full day of fighting, dancing, walking, and just existing in all the dirt, I would give anything for a hot bath! Do you think you could come up with a camp bathtub? Something that collapses for travel? A way to soak aching muscles and wash away the dirt of battle?! Mr. Bubbles has lite the beacons, bathers call for aid!!!

[@benbarnes-scrivin5961]

Make a canvas wrap for the larger pieces then lay it across the slats when built to protect the air bed from splinters.

[@SamuelTyree1]

I would add some handles to the boxes to make picking them up easier. Wood burn in some Celtic designs for added coolness. Use the bottom of the boxes to make some nightstands with wood or pvc pedestals to set things on. Great episode!

[@ameliabrown5353]

Maybe the crates would have also carried the frame? Making the frame fold once more and with support legs so it can fit or putting straps to hold the frame under tension. Also would love to see the flat board bottoms get some use, like under the bed shelfs for storing your hidden valuables (like the coins you made last epsiode). Overall I loved this idea and would love to see another episode of it next evolution!

[@GomorrahVT]

You could split the slats assembly into 2 or 3 smaller sets of slats so they can fit into the crates for future beds

[@georgehrenchir3408]

I've always been interested in rope beds, and know that they are historical. Maybe creating one that uses the tension of the ropes to solidify the frame? I loved how you used the corners to create boxes though!

[@erikledune9292]

I think that's a great idea. The way I'm picturing it, it would probably take longer to set up but it would also take up less space than the bundle o' wood. You'd just have a bundle o' rope instead.

[@DH-xw6jp]

Just use a rope hammock stretched taut on a wood frame made of hiking staves.

[@Celcey24]

If you’re interested in the concept, Morgan Donner just recently made a video about how she made a full rope bed from start to finish!

[@zertoil]

Might want to get one of those harbor freight moving blankets and lay that out between the air mattress and the wood. That will help prevent getting a hole and help insulate it as well. Another idea for a bed, which doesn't need an air mattress, is a rope bed. It's actually quite accurate for a bed style for the last thousand years or so. You'll still run into an issue with having a small car. However, it would take up a little less space, not by much but enough.

[@BrianDaleNeeley]

If the frame pieces (folded) would fit in the boxes, cut the box bottoms in two diagonally, and permanently affix them to the corners Then put the frames into one box, invert the second over top, and boom. Add some latches to hold the corners together. Also, grab a small bag for the bolts, because those are the first things to go missing...

[@justyouraverageweirdo]

Another possible option is to make a rope-woven type of thing that you can remove from the frame itself with some tension. As well as a second one near the bottom of the frame for storage and support after you've put it together. Basically old tension beds, but portable.

[@pitviper64]

As you have pointed out you can pull the pins on the hinges. So you can disassemble the sides into smaller sections. So that being said if you could turn it into the frame of a long crate. Make some minor adjustments to your slatting to turn it into the 3 long sides of your long crate. Also changing the side stabilizers into 2 squares or Us so that when you collapse it down the slats would work much like the how the bottom of the crates do. Just slotting in and making up 3-4 sides of a bed width crate. So entire bed breaks down into 2 small boxes and 1 longer crate. That may be enough room to store your tent inside the Crate and the bedding in the boxes. And have you thought about adding a trailer hitch to your car for something like an external tool box or shelf you will occasionally see people using going to parks to camp or tail gate on?

[@markfergerson2145]

Make a box to contain the long wooden parts. The box should come apart into pieces that cover the slats to prevent any rough spots from puncturing the air mattress. This may require you to add a roof rack to the car (you need one anyway) or just get a small trailer. I mean the bed is great, but do you still have room in the car for the alchemist's coffee station? The field-kitchen-in-a-box? The nightstand-in-a-box? Anything else at all? Either roof rack, trailer, or its time to think about a pickup truck.

[@Dazza_Doo]

Honestly, a double blow up mattress that's double high would be better, sorry to say. Also campers use the Metal support system from Ikea (metal slat(sliding) and hook). A properly rated sleeping bag and you will be warm all night, you can even join Left and Right sleeping bags into double sized one. You need a small trailer ~ good luck