Another Minecraft Dungeons Review (Because everyone hated the first one)

Many people were dissatisfied with my first Minecraft Dungeons review, and I can understand why.
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[@SkillUp]

A lot of people think this video is about me changing my opinion, and it isn't. It's actually just about providing a better, clearer argument, and a more balanced overview of the entire game. My first review didn't do that, which is why I wanted to try again. The original video is here, but like I said I will leave Unlisted so it won't surface through search engines: kzbin.info/www/bejne/paXCfHmBiaenkKs Apologies for dropping the ball with the first review. I'm not perfect but I'll always try to fix things when I make a mistake.

[@MoctorOfDedicine]

Can you do a Warframe 2020 review?

[@JNFattorini]

Good on you for giving it another shot. And good on you again for sticking to your guns, my man. Keep up the good work.

[@gringo533]

I dont agree that you dropped the ball on the first review. Sure, it could always be better (and it did not include any boat analogies) but that does not require you to do the review again... Thanks for taking the time anyway. Keep up the great work.

[@ellisscott9840]

Skill Up dude no. You should stick to your guns. If you genuinely didn't like the game then everyone else needs to just suck it up and deal with it. Flip flopping like this is gonna make you lose a lot of credibility as a reviewer and I'm saying this cause you're one of the few reviewers I actually like. I'd expect IGN to cater to the few butthurt fanboys but not you man

[@killcount6994]

I prefer the original. You aren't IGN and we don't subscribe to you for bland, un-offensive, people pleasing reviews that pulls punches. Keep at it with the bold takes and honest reviews as someone who understands what a good ARPG is and don't let the hate get to you.

[@Sephyroth97]

"Some fans of the game complained about my view so here's why you're still wrong but in more detail" 8/10

[@fv2977]

@XAndroid1 He gave a pretty comprehensive view of the game, and explains his subjective view of the game really well, which is everything a review of this length should do. If you expect him to go through every single negative comment talking about every point brought up, we'd be here all day.

[@MilkySubstance]

@XAndroid1 Care to elaborate at all or do you expect people to take vague statements like that as a fact? Having played through the game myself I agree with SU on basically every point he makes. The game is shallow, unengaging, and underdesigned. Theres no real depth to the combat of the game, the loot is pretty boring for a game in a genre thats defined by its loot. The exploration is non-existent, and the difficulty scaling relies more on gimmicks that are a result of poor gameplay design (spamming ranged enemies) than actually increasing the challenge in any meaningful way. The thing I find the absolute worst about this game though is just how lacking in replayable content it is, and the fact that from the very first moment you boot up the game and visit the menus your confronted with multiple parts of the game that are greyed out and say they cannot be accessed until you purchase on of the DLCs. On day one. The fact they have clearly cut content from the game with the undoubtable intention to selling it back to players through microstansations masquerading as 'DLCs' is fucking sickening. ESPECIALLY given that the target market for this game is young children. It preys on lack of understanding of how predatory microtransactions are, and the greyed out menus that are thrown in these kids faces preys on the idea of kids demanding their parents continue to fork out more money for the game well after launch.

[@giorno6086]

@XAndroid1 aaand, he went silent

[@UnityUprisingHQ]

XAndroid1 and those several points are?...

[@le-blanc1440]

@XAndroid1 what points, i would love to know.

[@Horotoma]

Don't see many reviewers go back and dig deeper into a game they rated previously, just because someone told them they didn't go deep enough. Well, that's probably why I subscribed. Gotta give it to you for quality and depth.

[@Scipo0419]

It's why I'm subscribed for sure. I don't always agree with his opinion, but I always respect it because of how well he articulates both sides, which he admitted was lacking in the previous video. Makes his other content more credible imo

[@Ninjagabbo]

His first vid was perfect he didnt even need to waste time on this second review

[@lordofdarkness4204]

And the funny thing is he did it for a irrelevant dungeon crawler for kids, not some divisive AAA game

[@jimjimmy8900]

@Peter Lustig he didn't though, he said very clearly that the game still garbage

[@riskyworks]

699...I wont sub...that last number is annoying

[@wrenchviking8527]

You expressed doubts on who would enjoy this game and I respect that. I know that I wouldn't, as I've been spoiled by Diablo and Path of Exile, and your review made that clear. However, on the other side of the equation is my 14 year old stepson. He is autistic and emotionally is more similar to an 8 or 9 year old. He loves Minecraft to a truly devoted level. He's watched myself and his mother play Diablo and PoE before, but we haven't allowed him to delve into those games due to their mature nature. However, he is absolutely loving Minecraft Dungeons and has been playing it nearly nonstop since launch. He finds repetition comforting and doesn't get bored going through the same areas over and over again. He doesn't like loud music in his games. He cares little for storylines or narratives. He doesn't get bothered by graphical glitches or imperfections. In all of the ways that this game is a "No" for me, my wife, and yourself, those same facets make it essentially perfect for his unique and admittedly limited use-case.

[@SkillUp]

Really glad he's enjoying it.

[@AmazinglyAwkward]

More games catered for every unique individual on this planet is certainly no bad thing though!

[@greysoncrowe5196]

@@SkillUp simp

[@gusic5095]

@@greysoncrowe5196 ???

[@vadar0521]

2 years late but you should get that boy a wii those things are great for dumb fun if you just want to be happy

[@GamingRobioto]

You played through this another two times because of a few dislikes... damn. Praise your commitment though!

[@sinanjustein515]

Gaming Robioto statistically speaking its way more than “a few dislikes” but all right

[@Zathren]

@Joel Dies By A Golf Club Pretty sure SJW types still don't play games. I think those dislikes were from the kids that like Minecraft and couldn't fathom a game not being great with Minecraft in the title.

[@PR2k9]

@Joel Dies By A Golf Club Admitting to not having had experienced enough of the game and then going back to replay it and give a more comprehensive review of said game seems like what a game reviewer should do... I can respect the integrity.

[@cheesi]

@Joel Dies By A Golf Club what does this have to do with the *_eSs JaY dUbYaHs_* its not that deep

[@lordofdarkness4204]

Joel Dies By A Golf Club what the hell does this game have to do with SJW shit? There is virtually no story and no real characters, so nothing for SJWs to yell at. It’s a $20 game with little to no real substance. Not surprising considering it’s audience.

[@aggammer3485]

_Reaching character lvl 68_ so u stopped right before greatness arises? *Shame*

[@TheSe-Bas]

lol

[@Smaced.]

Well if he'd hit level 69 the entire comment section would just be 'nice' so there'd be no discourse

[@Jesse__H]

😅

[@animelytical8354]

@skillup not nice

[@Anima-bribe]

Thats what wow players told greatness comes at 60 XD

[@csaki01]

SkillUp: I dropped the ball, I did not highlight the good parts of it. Also SkillUp: *Continues to roast the game for 12 more minutes* Haha, but it's tru tho'!

[@igniatesch9664]

XD, so true. Don't get why he did this. Game is bullshit, let it be.

[@shanegrayson7068]

@@igniatesch9664 I mean, he said it, Minecraft fans finding it hard to believe that something with Minecraft in the title would be bad.

[@bigkirbyhj666]

@@igniatesch9664 masochism?

[@rustyshackleford3160]

@@igniatesch9664 Cuz Minecraft Millennials are growing up and try arguing quality is subjective. It's not.

[@LukasW]

Rusty Shackleford If People are having fun with a simple game design it its a Good Game for them. Not everybody has the same taste, i dont want to say its a good game but its so dumb to say its a bad game nobody can have fun with it. people are saying its a good game when they have Fun with it and you want to tell them no its not you should not have fun with it or what?

[@danielcook4918]

Loving playing this game with my 5 year old. Perfect father son game

[@JohnDoe-uf3lj]

Wholesome comment.

[@aben1466]

holy shit this was released 5 years ago?

[@violentpursuit]

I am looking at these Minecraft spinoff games for my 7 year old and Legends seems pretty advanced. May try for this one first

[@immortallvulture]

The fact you care enough about the quality of your work to remake this review even though you don’t like the game is why we appreciate you.

[@PorcuDuckSlug]

EXACTLY. He’s not walking back on his opinions, he’s just better articulating them. People in this comment section got me so frustrated

[@TheTrailerCREAT0R]

Technically he’s just doing this to not lose subscribers.

[@blackcatpirates8134]

@@TheTrailerCREAT0R yeah

[@ricksflicks-]

True stuff.

[@xandersore3442]

I wasn’t a fan of the first review, and I have to say the fact that he came back to explain his points and remake his review is really cool. He now had a new subscriber

[@pneumonoultramicroscopicsi4065]

Everyone is entitled to their opinions man, you don't need to apologize for an opinion piece.

[@pauldank3453]

but he did not change his opinion though

[@wyattmyles5940]

Except when it comes to IGN,KEEMSTAR,H3H3,GAMEINFORMER and when it came to you troy baker giving his opinion on the leaks.

[@PokeMaster22222]

Unless it's a factually untrue and harmful opinion, like the pro-disease crowd, the misandry crowd, and the anti-white crowd. Then one _should_ apologise for their rudeness and offensiveness, and their lies.

[@pneumonoultramicroscopicsi4065]

@@PokeMaster22222 it's a game review, let's keep that in mind and not go off topic lol

[@BESM1984]

@@PokeMaster22222 what? You seems to be commenting on the wrong video buddy

[@ctk3316]

As someone new to the genre it’s a fun game. It still seems very very light on content. It could have a lot more depth and Mojang had a lot of missed opportunities for more fun, maybe deeper gameplay (crafting weapons for example)

[@riskyworks]

Ctk 3 I mean yeah true...only 8 main levels (He for some reason counted the tutorial which is far shorter than the secret levels) but the dlc for 10 dollar's which well half the price of the main game and will have atleast half the amount of the main levels...Its decent

[@EinManU]

They just missed out on so much -the variety of builds youd have if you played any other game of this genre (just LOOK at path of exiles skilltree.) -gathering recources and *CRAFTING* specific gear you need -having your custom-minecraft skin in this -PvP (dont know if its actually in, didnt see any so far.) -Collecting blocks to customize and/or *BUILD* your own hub Maybe i just expected too much

[@ekremslayer3389]

They took a lot of what minecraft is and got rid of it

[@EinManU]

@@ekremslayer3389 yup. atleast crafting stuff and building something somewhere somehow would tell me they atleast TRIED to get some "minecraft-feel" into it. Instead we got a HEAVILY DOWNGRADED version of stuff like poe or diabolo but with minecraft-sprites. Really sad.

[@Gekayy]

I was at least expecting basic crafting and basic town building, like "collect me x amount of blah to upgrade your town hall" or whatever. It's Minecraft for crying out loud, how did they only take the look of Minecraft and not a single other element?

[@cheesi]

Yeah, a Minecraft dungeon crawler could actually have some potential. There's a lot it could do to make itself unique and different, but it looks like the only thing it did different from the likes of PoE is making it simple to the point where it's not fun

[@italianspiderman5012]

Well that's game as a service for ya,they add that later,maybe,give it couple of years. Hate this nonsense. Also literally started path of exile yesterday and there's no skill trees in there...it's horror...love it.

[@Psycorde]

Unnecessary, man, the original review was thorough enough for how much depth the game has.

[@EinManU]

Damn, harsh but true.

[@8strauss6]

Yeah pretty sad when the reviewer seems like he puts forth more care in his critique then the game directors did in realizing this game.

[@rasmie8858]

He could have spent 2 minutes per level explaining them in details and still would have been shorter than his other reviews I can't grasp what exactly people were expecting

[@PR2k9]

Unnecessary, but I welcome the extra and more comprehensive review.

[@whothou]

definitely necessary, the original review was just him nit picking on what the game did wrong and that's it.

[@1903JPG]

You pretty much nailed it when you said it's a mobile game.

[@EinManU]

@Josiah Sepulveda same - dungeons is just underwhelming all around.

[@joaquinmuniz9963]

There's a developer interview somewhere where they say this started as a 3DS title. I think it makes a lot of sense

[@JonForshort]

Thats why its $5 if you have xbox game pass lol

[@kingchaosxd6510]

@Leo diablo is the same type of game as this and has over 60 hours worth of content, 7 characters millions oc different builds. "Enjoy the game?" The game is poorly made and you cant enjoy it

[@ramanmishra2601]

Can't wait to play it on my phone 🙌

[@catnickfl]

To parrot a lot of comments I'm seeing, you really didn't need to redo your whole review. It wasn't even a 1:1 like and dislike ratio. I feel as if anyone who had a problem with the review was ether looking for a reason to dislike it or was an minecraft apologetic. But damn if you're not committed to putting out the best content you can, I generally come to you first for a reason. You certainly did better job at explaining the issues with it, though I felt anything you didn't mention in the first vid felt easily implied. Keep up the fantastic work... and you're going to push yourself through a game, at least get to the mythical level of 69 before you stop!

[@joelmilten]

Not a Minecraft defender or hater, but I've played the game and I had to disagree with the general suggestion or tone of his review. It didn't sell what it is. I watched his original review and it made the game look uninteresting so I didn't want to play it. My brother got it though and I've been playing with him and having a lot more fun with it than I thought I would. It's less serious and more of just a light hearted cheesy good time. Most of his points were right, he just turned off some people to the game who might be the target demographic.

[@Turnoutburndown]

Minecraft apologist*

[@jmoa5758]

It was the minecraft nostalgic tards. Just like the Zelda tards and super mario tards. The game is mediocre, but to those guys every entry is good to fantastic masterpiece due to nostalgic factor for the franchise.

[@st0nedpenguin]

@@jmoa5758 Or, you know, some of know the game is flawed but don't care since our kids, the actual target audience, are gonna love it.

[@TripleMasterA]

@@st0nedpenguin Ah yes the old "its for kids, stop criticizing the game"

[@fakeplasticgamers9850]

At the end of every single video, SkillUp says "If you enjoyed the video leave a like, if you didn't, leave a dislike so I know to do better next time." This video proves how that statement isn't just fluff -- he really cares about putting out good content. He doesn't mind when people disagree with his view, but he cares deeply about explaining that view in the best possible way. I love that.

[@Lawgamer411]

When do looter game devs realize that players want loot? I got more loot from gears tactics...

[@TheCivildecay]

that's because gears tactics is a awesome game

[@ambro2786]

@@TheCivildecay It was soooooo good

[@CUSTARDP00DLETK]

I wish they bring tactics loot system in gears 5 horde. Imagine how cool that would be? Customise your class through armour and weapon upgrades instead of fucking cards.

[@cheesi]

@@chloekaiser9826 It just released, so it should be complete. That's how games are supposed to be. They can add DLC later on, sure, but the base game should always be a full, worthwhile experience on its own.

[@jigartalaviya2340]

They took their lessons about loot from Anthem. So there you go.

[@Lawgamer411]

Yeah nah. I don’t want to buy a game that advertises in game about its upcoming DLC as soon as you finish the first part of it.

[@-pressxtostart-]

I mean i can think of a dozen highly rated AAA games that pop up the season pass page before youve even played 🤷‍♂️

[@AbsoluteSkycaptain]

@@-pressxtostart- That's because AAA games are largely just a series of dumpster fires.

[@-pressxtostart-]

@@AbsoluteSkycaptain 😔

[@imo098765]

@@AbsoluteSkycaptain and even if they are dumpster fires they still have more content than Minecraft dungeons besides Anthem that shit had no content

[@ethans7588]

@Leo Probably because it was actually fun

[@nickalso813]

Honestly for $20 I would say I got my money's worth. I had a really fun time with this game. I wasn't expecting a deep, immersive, character building ARPG from Minecraft, I just wanna relax, go through a level and have fun. It's a yes from me personally.

[@whostolethefunk]

couldn't agree more man. so many people have a problem with expectations. i knew exactly what i was getting, had a great time, enjoyed the fun build diversity, and didn't have to crunch numbers or sit in my menu for minutes on end comparing stats. good clean fun in my mind and well worth the $20 imho. i do recommend playing with a friend tho as that's what my opinion is based on.

[@Thumbstickgamer]

This. It’s a $20 game at release, and my kids have had a ton of fun with it. Worth every dollar to me.

[@patriciaturner2924]

@@ReallyNotTrix1 well, the game is getting content updates for FREE an 2 upcoming dlcs plus cross platform. So yeah, I'd say it's definitely worth it

[@AquaGaming1607]

Patricia Turner Isn’t the game technically unfinished? We’re literally going to pay for levels we should already have instead of paying a bit more for the whole product.

[@oscines2170]

Agreed

[@PK-we6vk]

I was really disappointed that you couldn't interact with the enviroment in any way.

[@greysoncrowe5196]

It could come in a new update to the game

[@hystericallover5989]

@@greysoncrowe5196 doubt it

[@GradietPanda12345]

@@greysoncrowe5196 game is mediocre

[@greysoncrowe5196]

@@GradietPanda12345 bet %100 you didn't play since the launch

[@purelelez]

Looking at this game makes me wish for a Baldur's Gate Dark Alliance 3, or a remake of the first two ps2 games.

[@MadassSoerensen]

They are developing a new dark alliance, think it might just be a spiritual succesor but it might be worth the wait :)

[@NextSector]

Or Champions of Norrath!

[@williamhatred4231]

@@NextSector A new Champions of Norrath game would be a dream come true.

[@purelelez]

@@MadassSoerensen Nice, I didn't know about that, thanks man.

[@Mattznick]

I still boot up my ps2 to play Dark Alliance here and there such a good game

[@owlenderg]

"the game is only on windows store and xbox" It also has a win 7/8 launcher version (that works on Linux with WINE) And it has Switch and PS4 versions (I play on switch, it's a teeny laggy at times, but it's definitely still playable!)

[@warz3bra245]

Reminds me of the ff13 apologists "It GeTS GoOD 80 HoURs IN"

[@hoodedman6579]

Hey now, it's only like 20, and it really does get better, though I doubt it would convince anyone who didn't like what they saw up until that point to like it.

[@Tissuestrash]

@@hoodedman6579 i hoped back in now and i see they added 15 more difficulties and man are they actually challenging

[@scottsattler1985]

I was surprised at your first "review". Not because of your feeling towards the game but the fact it was no-where near the standard of what you usually produce. Doesn't bother me that the outcome hasn't changed but this is a much, much better review. We all have bad days - credit to you for redoing it.

[@fatbroccoli8]

Must’ve been a chore playing this game

[@ticmasta7584]

damn we livin in post mine craft dungeons re review

[@michaelcaricoo]

"Skillup caves to angry gamer mob" -kotaku, probably

[@sixstringedthing]

"Toxic commenters hurl abuse at popular KZbinr after he caves to audience backlash" - also Kotaku, probably

[@account4345]

George Floyd He didn’t change his stance though. So he literally didn’t cave.

[@lucasmackinaw7580]

Personally, its just a fun game to play friends

[@gusic5095]

pretty much any game is

[@GradietPanda12345]

Still boring as hell with friends

[@Lyall_xD]

You’re a good guy, a damn good reviewer too. I look up to your work with trying to write my own review stuff. Not for anyone but me but it’s fun!

[@QuiteShallow]

minecraft fanboys bullied you into saying that its good huh

[@SkillUp]

Pewds called me and threatened me.

[@zaburinoakashi]

Lol even shy's commenting on this

[@LEg3enDArmy]

@@SkillUp FLOOR GANG!!!!

[@finn1708]

Shy go back to insulting me on warframe weapon reviews

[@anokosecret9963]

wait, Shy? what're you doing here

[@FlamingninjaGamingYT]

Honestly SkillUp, I respect you and your review style, and you don’t need to apologise for giving a bad game a negative and honest review. It’s clear simply from what it is, that it’s a senseless cash grab based on a popular game with little to no connection to Minecraft. I’m actually surprised you reviewed this game, but it’s a testament to your commitment as a reviewer that you gave it at least some of your time. Keep making great reviews, you will always have my support.

[@nickhotaling270]

But it's not a bad game. Even he says he doesn't think it's a bad game, just disappointing. Did you even watch either review?

[@braddsfx8921]

How is this a cash grab, it’s called Minecraft because it’s based in the world of Minecraft, that’s like saying Star Wars battlefront is a cash grab

[@FlamingninjaGamingYT]

I did, and I don’t think Minecraft Dungeons can be called a good game. If you don’t see it as a bad game, that’s your take, but from what I’ve seen and heard, it’s not my cup of tea and given that it’s showing you that DLC is on the way with the main game being short and unpolished at release, I’d say that’s enough of a reason to dismiss it.

[@Nebthtet]

See, I'm happy he did review it. He saved me at least 3 hours playing that which I can commit towards other games (I like arpgs and was curious about this). Also kudos for the commitment.

[@animelytical8354]

...it's like you ignored what Skill Up himself said entirely.

[@wruthe2709]

Honestly I liked the first review already. Told me everything I needed to know. But I appreciate the fact that you didn‘t ignore the feedback of your community and made another review :)

[@Fade2GrayOG]

For me, "staying alive vs having fun" feels like a common problem for ARPGs at higher difficulties

[@VotePaineJefferson]

It's not like that. If you play with a friend, the game becomes much easier. But it's actually much easier solo than every other ARPG I've played. The only real difficulty is the fight against the bosses. They can hit really hard and kill you if you don't dodge.

[@deanguy]

Bewildered Bodhisattva honestly, it’s much easier by myself because I can get all the arrows, I don’t have to worry about reviving them if they go down, and I won’t be rushed through the levels as quickly (meaning I can search everywhere better). It’s fun both ways, but I’m not sure if the difficulty really changes all the much solo to co-op

[@PorcuDuckSlug]

Why do so many people think better articulating your opinions is somehow walking back on your opinions? Takes a lot of nerve to dislike your own video while not changing your opinion, it shows you understand your opinion isn’t something you need to change but you understood the criticism given in regards to the actual review. You’ve gained a ton of integrity for this review in my eyes, even though I completely agreed with your opinions in the last review.

[@monadoboy9639]

I'm so glad you redid this review and I totally agree I think if this was some small indie game you could probably forgive it but attaching it to the minecraft brand and then not having any kind of exploration building or even an immersive soundtrack really hurts it I think

[@greysoncrowe5196]

The devs literally said before the GAMEPLAY REVEAL trailer came out "the game will not have building or crafting". The music ain't even that bad, I'd argue some songs (like the four horsemen and obsidian pinnacle) are better than the base game

[@OkamiAmaterasu.]

Replaying again just to update your review? Respect. Glad to see you're still commited to putting out high quality content!

[@RegineLi]

Thanks for revisiting the review and recognizing ways too make it more holistic, I also really respect you sticking to your final conclusions - showing just how much you're getting better. Solidifying just why you're my favorite reviewer.

[@thesheeepjd]

I applaud your commitment to integrity. Only very few people would have gone through that game again, and twice even.

[@tarrabruh]

Ralph mate you didn't need to do this. First review was fine, though ill admit it was less reviewy than you usually do. You're allowed to have an opinion don't stop yourself from calling a game out when you know it's being lazy.

[@ricksflicks-]

It's not the opinion that was the issue. I think he decided that the way he conveyed the opinion wasn't up to his crazy high standards. It's probably good for his channel that he doesn't let his high level of detail and depth slide.

[@whatisbestinlife8112]

Obviously there are going to be huge fans of a Minecraft game who want reviews of their favorite franchise to be fair and thorough, even if the reviews aren't overall positive and they don't agree with the opinions. This is how game reviewing is supposed to work. This is how professional game critics are supposed to operate. SU doesn't waste time rationalizing or making excuses for his earlier review. Or lashing out at fans. He doesn't call the fans "toxic" or "entitled". He respects their fandom and passion for their beloved franchise as legitimate and returns with a professional and thorough review. Much respect SU. You're one of the best reviewers in this business. Which could be faint praise considering how poor most game "journalism"/criticism actually is. But it's not faint. You're genuinely very good and offer up an excellent example of how a fair-minded pro goes about the business of passing judgement on other's creative work.

[@arunjako]

The fact that u apologized for not doing a proper review and spent more time to improve it just cements u as my favourite and most trustworthy game reviewer! Much love

[@greysoncrowe5196]

While I do disagree with the review (mostly because he talks about it like it's gonna stay in it's current state and never improve) I do give him props for that

[@petelovagssecondaccount5291]

When i started playing games like this i was extremely overwhelmed by the skill trees and different upgrades, but this game doesnt have any But after playing thru the main story i really felt the lack of skills

[@risingthunder45]

Personally for me I just enjoyed the game. I can understand having expectations sure, but I wasn't really expecting this heavily complex building system where you build your own house or something. Maybe crafting, but even then, I didn't expect much. You can say it's bad all you want, but I do see some self enjoyment in it.

[@risingthunder45]

Another thing, I'm genuinely curious how building would work in this game? The angle of the camera would look like a pain to do so, and the best I see it doing is like...creating your own cover basically.

[@jazeroliversy673]

I mean you can enjoy a bad product. I mean it’s not really bad more like painfully average.

[@SilentSpringz]

Its a bad game stop crying already.

[@risingthunder45]

@@SilentSpringz took you 3 weeks to come up with that one eh? Not really crying just saying I'm enjoying an...average game at best.

[@afx3142]

@@risingthunder45 Dragon Quest builders handled minecraft style building at this angle. It could work.

[@thatsjustgay]

This is why I love this channel. I've never even played Minecraft, I only clicked this because I was curious to see how Skill Up handles backlash over a kids game I don't give a shit about, and let me just say... I love you bro. I love the depth of the reviews, the actual journalism you do, the quality content, and now owning your mistakes and taking it in stride. You a real one.

[@vekien]

3 mushrooms, radiance fists or sickles, never worry about healing again (tank and spank)

[@adrianford1073]

I truly felt your first review was perfectly fine after playing through the game myself. Your work is always clearly though tout and shows love put into it

[@ddfcfff4202]

Yet his no straight roads review was BS

[@adrianford1073]

@@ddfcfff4202 1 year ago. shhhhh

[@mix1ro]

I could hear the pain in his voice when he had to re-record this review 😂

[@KEV19019]

I'd really love a databank some sort of at the camp where you select missions. Like open up a menu and you see all the mobs, monsters, bosses and gear that's available in the Game. Plus stats, where you can find them and like everything. But theres a minecraft dungeons book you could buy and before there was a limited obsidian chest box to buy including a game and the book and other fancy stuff. Let's hope they add on even more on an already perfect game!!! Loving minecraft dungeons!

[@patriciaturner2924]

To anyone hating on the game, I hope you know that this isn't a kids game OR is it meant to be a literal arpg. It's just a minecraft spinoff that I'm sure most of the fans would enjoy.

[@mynameisgeoff2025]

Skillup I have faith in your reviews the last few recommends ive picked up i loved. Outerwilds is the next on my list after sub nautical.

[@bbqR0ADK1LL]

I somehow watched you twice review a game I will likely never play.

[@sergiarilla8608]

Skillup: How to shit on the same game twice but more deeply.

[@BecksHobbyProductions]

Good on you - thats why you are my favorite game channel for reviews. Its the ability to think beyond your own little world and have a high standard for quality.

[@bio-knight]

"How dare someone say a game that I haven't played is in anyway bad! Payed reviewers said it was good!"

[@ramneekashok5707]

To be fair he released a half baked review to get clicks and this is trying to make up for that. Bad AF. It's also "paid" and you are paying this guy with your support. All reviewers are paid, the bad ones are paid to give some one else's opinion. I don't care if he hates the game, the review was half assed.

[@allexio]

@@ramneekashok5707 his original review was great. Read other comments and you'll see you're pretty much the only one thinking this.

[@HZRDification]

@@ramneekashok5707 LMAO it wasn't half baked at all. He literally makes the exact same points in this video, he just tries to detail who may still find enjoyment out of the game at the end.

[@vidalzazueta4678]

@@HZRDification It was. I saw many comments disagreeing and proving some of the points he made wrong. Also other comments stating Skill Up was the first negative review they saw

[@RedeemerBlood]

I can't read a single critic now on Meta. They all seem like paid corporate shills (and probably are). They're still good for a laugh though if you need one. Like the Windows Central review of this game. Absolutely hilarious.

[@KingHershko]

You finally mentioned Grim Dawn - Does that mean we can expect a Skillup review for this amazing ARPG??

[@RedeemerBlood]

Yes! That game deserves far more limelight than this MC trash spin off.

[@msventurelli]

This right here is why you are my favorite gaming youtuber right now. You are intelligent, articulate, and pair that with being humble and learning with your mistakes. I was already a fan, but this video just reinforced how much I admire your work.

[@msventurelli]

Also, by reading the other comments, I realize you are also teaching people an important lesson. Your "opinion" on the game didn't change, and still you made a much better Review. This generation thinks too highly of "opinions" and too little of everything else, and here you taught us what separates a review from "just stating your opinion".

[@randomthingys8709]

Personally, I sort of agree, it is relatively repetitive. But with my playthrough, I had played with my friend at the same time, which I believe is the ideal way to play. We had a lot more fun than I ever did solo, and it made me love the game more than I expected

[@rbdriftin]

Oh man, don't let people change your mind.

[@gooeymon8146]

Watch the video

[@SkillUp]

They didn't. This isn't about changing my mind, just better explaining how I reached the conclusions that I did, and providing a more balanced perspective so that people can make better purchase decisions.

[@hiddenleafdrip3869]

He didn't change his opinion per say, he just did a better game review. He did admit that he didn't give a balance review before, but he still thinks that it's as barebones as he thought before.

[@DjurrenArt]

Skill Up: *being honest* Fans: *angry block noises*

[@emceeunderdogrising]

I think a lot of reviewers got this wrong because they review it strictly through the frame of an adult. I think this game is a good time drainer. It's casual which doesn't appeal to anyone who plays ARPGs. But as a first time dungeon crawler I think it's actually decent for kids.

[@watchdoge7087]

This shows how much you care about providing good content for your audience. I respect that. I personally didn’t have an issue with the previous review, but this new one is more balanced while covering the same content.

[@ShiningEyeBrigade]

Well done for, as usual, taking the “high integrity” path and putting in extra work to make sure you did not miss something in your initial review, Some people here in the comments seem to be missing this point. It’s not about caving. Initially he did not play the game as thoroughly as he usually does because he was pretty sure it was not needed to review the game. Then a bunch of people said he was missing out on elements of the game that made it good. So to be sure, he went back and played it quite a bit more, at different difficulty levels. I do not get the reviewers here saying “you caved to the butthurt.” The second review is even more convincing of why the game is not a good buy because it provided even more examples of game’s design flaws.

[@yhwhachkg7030]

Well not a good choice for adults. My kids are having a lot of fun with it, this game definitely has a target audience and he is not the target.

[@GooseTower]

@@yhwhachkg7030 did you watch the video? that's almost exactly what he said

[@necrago]

"It may frustrate younger looking to play on their own" - you totally didn't get mad...

[@mickyhansen6869]

I enjoyed your first review, but good on you going back to play it again. Im enjoying the co-op aspect in this game and for 20$ - its okay, I hope they'll continue to improve on this game. More bosses and more gear (gear drops). A lot of potential. Playing on ps4.

[@ok_listen]

Imagine criticizing a toy car because is not like a lamborghini.

[@frankieb9444]

As someone who just recently discovered Grim Dawn, this looks like something for the Minecraft fan more so than the ARPG fan.

[@lightwork446]

Grim dawn is amazing but I like this too tbh. This game relies heavily on atmosphere and i think they will make up for the shortcomings with updates.

[@user-ul6ec4io5i]

LIGHTWORK agreed this honestly feels like Minecraft’s update system x an arpg

[@iAmPimmiCue]

Was arguing with someone on Twitter about this game. He gave it a 10/10 while also saying the Telltale Minecraft game was excellent lmao

[@ethans7588]

Oh nooooo lmao

If i enchant a weapon....and then salvage it...do i loose the applied enchantment.

[@vidalzazueta4678]

You get the enchantment point back so yes

[@AnomalyAlter]

What I do like about this game is that it peaks into what the Minecraft universe could have on offer in terms of enemies, weapons, structures, etc Would certainly be welcome to see some of these things reach the main Game

[@mmike]

Went back to look at the negative comments on the last review and there were mostly two kinds. "My dumb, annoying kids, who will enjoy anyting with bright colors, liked this so therefore it is good" and "Me and my dumb, annnoying friends, who will enjoy anything mindless enough that we can blabber over it, liked it so therefore it is good"... In case anyone else were wondering.

[@MajorasLullaby]

So in your world everyone with an opinion has annoying and dumb friends or kids huh. Impressive

[@z-rossi3672]

@@MajorasLullaby Putting cheese on cardboard doesnt make it pizza, but it takes a special someone to argue that its really good pizza

[@fraz4909]

Well it's actually fun if u play the game with friends

[@cn.st.182]

I despise when games lock their difficulty levels behind earlier ones that make me slog through way too easy garbage. at the time I reach a pleasant level of challenge Im burnt out. happened in Borderlands 3 to me last...

[@arbitraryify]

Diablo 3 for me, they did fix some of that later - but yeah it is way too common.

[@tsavage4337]

The thing is even if Minecraft dungeons allowed u to play harder difficulties it wouldn’t matter because you would have to play lower ones to get better gear

[@xmusic2049]

Each level in Minecraft Dungeons still has its own difficulty level to choose from.

[@Dragon2021]

This is a much better review. Good job on going back and really seeing it through and making the changes you needed to.

[@drakeday731]

What was the song used around the 7:30 mark?

[@seanevans335]

I've played about 3 hours and it's kinda okay as a mindless thing to play with a podcast on in the background. I think I'll finish it once and never touch it again, and that's fine by me. Especially as I got it from game pass

[@littlegrain2414]

Best comment on the video, I relate heavily

[@CrazyYul]

It was a good Video Before, and this one is also very good. You are just trying to tell us about the game and thats what you do and in a great way. It helps me actualy to know that this game divide opinions. Keep up the great job :)

[@bananarhino1215]

I personally enjoyed this game but I have a lot of respect for you to come back and do a review again.

[@zaburinoakashi]

When you Re-review of the review that you just had reviewed so that the reviewed review got a better review from the audience

[@spethmanjones2997]

YO DAWG

[@ladylad2763]

Review-ception

[@cherryblackblossoms]

Review is again pretty accurate I was watching a group of friends play it yesterday, all of which are diablo veterans And they said minecradt dungeons was "discount diablo for kids that might be good some day" They finished the game in 4 player co-op in one sitting It just doesnt seems all that interesting as a game Feels like its just trying to sell based on name alone

[@nicktubby9710]

Coming from Diablo, Minecraft dungeons looks like trash. But how does it play for someone who has only ever played Minecraft? I imagine it would be pretty awesome to do a couple of quests from a different perspective.

[@irridiastarfire]

This is probably a better review for a general audience who found the video from a search. I didn't have a problem with your original review. Keep up the good work!

[@meshteeyt8488]

The game is good but it's for people that are familiar with these games think its boring but for newcomers it's a good introduction to dungeon crawing games

[@justthereed5593]

I quite liked the game. But 100% it’s bland. With friends just messing around it’s great but alone I don’t think I’d last 4 minutes.

[@bigkirbyhj666]

So is watching a horribad movie, still don't make it good.

[@greysoncrowe5196]

@@bigkirbyhj666 I'm guessing that's not your actual opinion and your just like all the other 9 year olds in this fanbases choosing his opinion over your own

[@FLINTZ]

I thought the first review made your point very clear and in this one, it just reiterates it (which is a good thing). The game is a lackluster ARPG with value that only a few may find interesting. In my opinion, it could be good for kids, like you said, but it looks repetitive and very mundane that brings nothing new to the table. I wasn't interested when I first saw it last year at E3 and I was right in my convictions. Good review(s) man! Thanks for this!

[@projectsol6178]

Very respectable and professional of you to still take pride on your opinion, but also be able to go back and improve on things for your argument on which people might want to play. Love your reviews as always man! I always come here for a really good review of a game. Keep it up! 👏🤗

[@lightdarkequivalent7143]

I like that the game is very bare bones simple And I hope that if they ever make a sequel, they make a more compelling story line, diversified level designs, more challenging bosses, and maybe add the "mine" and "craft" aspects by maybe adding a base to the camp. Here you can upgrade the base by collecting materials throughout the levels ranging from common to ultra rare. Using the collected materials, maybe you can turn your simple wooden base to a more fortified stone base, add furniture, maybe even add traps to be used on a new mode where waves of mobs will attack your cam, giving meaning as to why you need to upgrade. Classes may also be a good thing to add so that it may encourage players to conquer dungeons with your friends where they use other classes. I don't know, I just hope that if a sequel or q free update ever comes out, it would acknowledge the problems the game currently has.

[@Caveboy0]

To anyone that wished he had a positive opinion you need to remember that skill up does not like Minecraft. So the aesthetic and sound design won’t impress him much.

[@ikrabarean]

Woo. Got here with no views! Also, I agree with your review, played with some friends last night and most of your complaints really hit home with this.

[@makeshiftvidz6624]

You covered mostly everything surprisingly, but I have a couple suggestions. 1. When dodge rolling with keyboard controls you should dash in the direction of your cursor: Not the direction of the player. 2. Also, you should be able to enchant your artifacts, because as of now most of them are bland with longer cool-downs on most. So having enchants will add a little bit more depth to what you should or shouldn't enchant. 3. You should be able to destroy tiles and or blocks. As this will create a better feel of impact during gameplay, and also make the player feel like they are actually playing a minecraft-based game. Not just some re-textured bare-boned Diablo game.

[@zkclyxh1901]

I love when the enemies go flying Has anyone else gotten the stretchy creeper glitched it’s hilarious 😂

[@firehead313]

I personally love the game, however I would love it 4x more if Mojang acted on some of the points in this video

[@bodyguardoftheceoofmemes9838]

Paying 59€ for 3 hours of boring gameplay is not worth it "change my mind"

[@riskyworks]

59€? lemme look up the pricing on that

[@riskyworks]

Ok idk where you got it from but the game is not 60 dollars...Its at a maximum of 30 dollars...And thats with the dlc

[@bodyguardoftheceoofmemes9838]

@@riskyworks well you have pretty cheap country then in our country it cost 59 euros

[@firehead313]

@@bodyguardoftheceoofmemes9838 Must have not been fully released there then, as the conversion rate is not that high. And in no point did I say I wanted to change your mind. I don't agree with what you said, but the second word in my original comment was "personally", and you appeared to take offense to that. I'm not entirely sure why

[@fermat101]

Many KZbin reviewers were givens special treatment by the company, so they are not honest reviews. This negative, but understanding video shows more honestly than the sellouts.

[@BrokenCircle1]

Did I hear that right? No W,A,S,D keybinds? What the fuck? In 2021...wow.

[@go4moo]

What's the song starting around 6:59?

[@l4zrh4wk]

33 years old and I love this game. We don't all want to scroll through pages of stats mate.

[@steffithemad8327]

The game is crappy and underwhelming, never apologize when you aren't wrong.

[@fernandomartinez6934]

That is extremely subjective

[@cbboy1265]

I liked you controlled rage review the 1st go around, but I can appreciate why you went again. You ate dedicated and it shows. I've been subscribed and look forward to the next videom

[@paynepersons6147]

The beauty of Minecraft is that it is so versatile, this and minecraft story mode would have been better as minecraft updates and not different games. Well, maybe not story mode ( because it is so linear), but minecraft with dungeons ( that have depth )would be neat.

[@salokin3087]

For the sake for propensity, you shouldn't remove older vids, its good to see how you improve or just your "raw" opinions

[@untitled4841]

I thought the first review was fine. Did all the kids go REEEEEE?

[@shanegrayson7068]

All the Minecraft fans went REEEEE

[@pcdeltalink036]

@@shanegrayson7068Eh, not all of em. I like minecraft well enough and thought his original review did a great job tearing it to shreds and that he gave more than adequate reasons why he didn't think it was a good game. A bit ridiculous that some people wanted a redo of that. Personally I was hoping this game would be good from what I had seen in trailers so it's a bit disappointing that they don't understand how to make a game like this play well.

[@jordanwilliams1507]

While I don't think it was necessary, I really appreciate that you took the time to do another review. Your thoughtful approach is exactly why this is my favorite review channel.

[@FrameEsc]

This was a way better review and what I've come to expect from this channel. Glad you had the clarity of mind to take a second look. Not many people would do that.

[@criipier]

I'm a big fan of the channel and all I have to say is that I follow the channel not because of your views but because this is probably the most constructive gaming channel out there. There have been plenty of reviews where I have disagreed with your conclusions or interpretations but those videos were still valuable to me because of how you construct and present your views. Most of the negative comments (not all, but most) on the original MD review were asinine. They weren't defending Minecraft Dungeons because you got your facts wrong or because you actually missed something. These people are just too tribal to when it comes to things that they love/look forward to in order to have an objective opinion about the game. Another video isn't going to change that.