SKIN TIGHT and REVEALING superhero suits make sense

[@shadiversity]

So this video style isn't replacing my regular ones where I'm actually in them, we're simply trying a different style with the audio only videos, which I've done on occasion since the beginning of this channel. Tell us what you think. Also, HULK!

[@niklasw.1297]

Hulk confused of new style. Hulk not like

[@Bardoftoday]

Id mucj rather have you on camera live. Your random jerking movements are very disconcsrting and distracting.

[@idkwhatthisisforplzhelp3678]

Commenting here just for the “interaction” No need to thank me :)

[@ovtchina]

I like both old and new equally. At first felt uncomfortable, but by the middle of the video I was already used to it. Felt less engaging but the quality of the narrative, speech itself seemed higher, more polished to me than old-style.

[@onewordandtherearenospaces3951]

I prefer seeing you express your points in video its more engaging I like to see your excitement when talking about these topics this isn't a bad style just not my preference

[@robertenyart9883]

A skintight skimpy outfit would be easier to hide under street clothes if you're trying to maintain a secret identity.

[@Jamesfckoffscammers]

Another excellent point. 👍

[@Oddi0]

I'm surprised he didn't touch on this point!

[@wizardtim8573]

Actually I like this point way more than Shad's.

[@yogsothoth915]

Cue up the Superman scene.

[@badreedinedjellali1328]

yeah like batman like some people makes fun of him but it's actually I understand why he's wearing it because it's important to protect he's identity and themselves from being hurt

[@gurugurumawaru7869]

“Their clothing is as invulnerable as they are” *looking at Hulk’s pants* C’mon Shad, obviously clothes made out of PG-13 is the strongest material out there.

[@slayerofdarknssdmt9697]

Its more durable than plot armor

[@aedieal]

@@slayerofdarknssdmt9697 The godly rating that will protect any person from showing anything, even if their clothes are ripped to shred

[@Bolpat]

Maybe his pants are quite flexible/elastic. In green form, they seem quite tight.

[@num1otori143]

Of cause it's more powerful then plot armor, you may have a plot relevant reason to circumvent that armor. But clothing over naughty bits protect against broadcasting regulations, fines, and overly conservative parents not wanting to talk to their children about certain topics.

[@xsanguine8]

@@Bolpat Nah, it's not elastic materials, it's definitely the power of PG-13, because no matter what he's wearing - he could be wearing a three piece gray suit - and he always ends up in some torn up purple pants.

[@TrueUnderDawgGaming]

The artists chose skin-tight outfits because muscles are fun to draw. Simple as that.

[@SgtSupaman]

A more real world explanation is that, when artists were designing superhero outfits, they started from the base that was, arguably, the first superhero's costume, Superman. Meanwhile, Superman's outfit was based on circus strongmen (because he was to be the strongest of the strong). Of course, strongmen only had to worry about lifting things, so they wore tight and lightweight clothing that wouldn't interfere with their acts. Thus, the designs actually derive from a practical purpose.

[@youngjohnboxing3368]

Muscles are very fun to draw

[@Ms.-Lily]

They are also fun to stare at

[@arkhamcreed4326]

Not even more fun to draw; just straight up easier. To get a proper hero pose to look right you need to plot out and to some degree sketch out the character's muscular anatomy. Then you plot the clothing on top of that and consider materials and physics...easier to just do the anatomy, say "done" and send it to the colorest while saying "make this naked character look not naked." Thus every superhero wearing spandex was born.

[@WeirdTale]

And Superman's design was based on 1920's Heavy Weight Lifters and Circus Strong Men, they just added the cape on top of what was at the time obviously athletic tights.

[@ianwright4255]

Batman uses his cape to also conceal his body movements. With the cape flapping away, the bad guys have a hard time trying to aim for center mass. This backed fired once and the bad guys, shooing at the cape, shot up Night Wing, who was standing behind Batman, almost killing him. This was shown in an early Batman Beyond comic. This is why Batman ditched the cape when he builds the Tech suit seen in Batman Beyond

[@CWR1701]

Pretty much. Everything about Batman's armor is about serving a need. Either as protective armor, item storage, or psychological impact. In contrast Superman's outfit is about invoking a sense of grandure, more symbol then function.

[@max_garcia]

wasn't his cape bullet proof? like the rest of his suit

[@ianwright4255]

@@max_garcia not always, not in this case. Usually it’s just the bat suit that’s bullet proof

[@max_garcia]

@@ianwright4255 mmmm, batman should consider bullet proof capes then

[@ianwright4255]

@@max_garcia they’d be to stiff and bulky. The bullet proof suit is usually enough. Night Wing should have done the same

[@katyushamarikov8819]

Shad: "Skimpy clothing" *Shows a totally naked Martian Manhunter who's clothes are actually part of his skin* Clever Shad... Clever.

[@501Magnum]

Wait... Does that mean that the cape is a part of his body as well?

[@katyushamarikov8819]

@@501Magnum yes

[@ФеликсАрефьев]

Good option to be martian shape-shifter: you go everywhere totally naked, but nobody knows about it.

[@BreezeOTM]

I feel like that technically makes him even more "naked" since his species doesn't actually wear any clothing. He simply did it to seem more "decent" among his fellow heroes.

[@30noir]

whose*

[@Neptune0404]

Another benefit of skintight suits is that it can fairly easily be hidden beneath common clothing, and less would also help since it's just less things to hide.

[@MrGhosta5]

a super hero would want a costume they could change into quickly otherwise they'd pull a deadpool and arrive too late because they took 20 minutes to change into their costume.

[@hoodlum4511]

Spider-man is a good example through his high school

[@Neptune0404]

@@MrGhosta5 Or one they could wear all the time underneath their normal clothes

[@HappyBeezerStudios]

@@Neptune0404 Which makes me thing they got more than once piece of it. Even superhero costumes need to be washed.

[@timothyjacksondrake4454]

True, but something compactible would work to. I carried a suit around in my backpack (long story) and I ruined my straw hat, but the giant western raincoat fit in fine.

[@bobfred2021177]

Yes, Hulk's pants would absolutely tear off, and that's precisely why Reed Richards made him super stretchy pants

[@UNSCMarine117]

*Thor disliked that*

[@blahorgaslisk7763]

Loved the scene where Banner is shopping and measures a pair of super stretchy tights against some huge woman's ass in the outdoor market. He doesn't really know just how large Hulk's ass is, but if they can stretch to fit that woman then there's a chance they could survive him hulking out...

[@zbigbozbboy5245]

@@blahorgaslisk7763 lol

[@hossep2695]

Why didn't he make Hulk a stretchy shirt?

[@protorhinocerator142]

@Miles Carroll He could. Reed Richards is up there with Edna Mode when it comes to making costumes. He makes them out of "unstable molecules" so they can react better with that person's superpowers.

[@kingkazuma2239]

I think Batman's outfit is the most ideal because not only does he use at as a glider but he also uses it to conceal himself for stealth and to create a psychological fear into his enemies.

[@lapplandkun9273]

exactly

[@intermilan9731]

Always a purpose behind his every action.

[@dwecktek]

And Superman his polar opposite uses it to basically draw attention to himself drawing attention like a giant meteor crashing down I love the contrast between the two

[@spankkakingu2755]

Yeah why kill them leave them paralosed and traumatized for the rest of their shitty life

[@somuchtocook9159]

Batman is a master ninja that would actually exist in the modern era. So it makes sense that he would come in as recon if he could actually tell the truth to the justice league

[@Overlordough1201]

Black Canary: So Diana, what's with the outfit? I'm not one to talk, but it's kinda alot right? Wonder Woman: **flashbacks to when she was swung by her skirt into a mountain** I have my reasons.

[@jeremyleonjonas7657]

There are 69 likes, so I won't go and take that away.... but consider it liked xD

[@jherazob]

When did that happen?

[@hq4287]

😂

[@four-en-tee]

That seems like just a vulnerability in her fighting style in general. She could just as easily be swung around by her arms or legs also.

[@tyeberiusmcintyre1879]

@@four-en-tee you got more control if they grab you by your arm or leg, can pull yourself closer to them for example

[@Zetact_]

Superman: "Why is my outfit skintight? I generate a bio-field around my body that protects anything that I'm touching by extending a barrier around them unless I'm attacking it." Spiderman: "Why is my outfit skintight? Can't afford replacements."

[@Arashmickey]

Piccolo: "CLOTHES BEAM!"

[@mongooseunleashed]

Also it fits under their normal clothes.

[@michaelpettersson4919]

Suddenly I imagine a world with superheroes where the more wealthy of them help sponsor the gear of the more impoverished of their peers. Maybe even musical galas where the proceed to help thease poor people out donate at the "Hero aid" gala. 😉

[@KennAKALeo]

I always wondered how Peter could afford to silk screen all those weblines on his tights.

[@viktorthevictor6240]

Spidey does make additional suits with different functionalities. Bulletproof ones for example

[@DrFranklynAnderson]

I mean, look at MMA fighters: the guys wear fairly small boxers, the gals wear sports bras and skintight shorts.

[@mathewpower9266]

Ok but wouldn't mma fights in suits of armour be cool?

[@brianwyters2150]

@Garren Brooks They have no clue what they're doing. Just baseball bat swinging at each other with bad footwork iirc.

[@rdevries3852]

@@brianwyters2150 If you can get the opportunity to watch some of the better HEMA practitioners in action, you should. Definitely a lot more to it than just baseball bat swinging with bad footwork.

[@hideousruin]

@@rdevries3852 He probably thinks real fights look like Hollywood movies.

[@brianwyters2150]

@@rdevries3852 No, I'm saying the MMA but in armor people are terrible. Very fake depiction of HEMA.

[@dashingrapscallion8812]

The entire video, I was waiting for Edna Mode to announce: “No capes!” I was not disappointed.

[@chrislowe6926]

Me too.

[@Torvik40]

Likewise

[@aoiminase]

Same goes to every game you play in videogames: capes will always be in your way like an obstacle

[@all4ourking1]

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[@rhaelbattlesmith7294]

The original superhero outfits were picked like that because they were the same skimpy revealing outfits that Circus Strongmen would wear in shows.

[@AmandaFessler]

So... technically sort of kinda athletic then! Shad brings it full circle.

[@gamalielvacasolis3484]

It was also easier to draw comic superheroes with skin tight suits than with normal wrinkled clothes. At least, that's what I've heard.

[@pirotess2]

And wear panties outside the bodysuit is a cool fashion!!

[@raphaelbeinhauer9242]

Another argument for the tight clothing is that it's easy to wear underneath your regular clothes, like superman does.

[@thirdplanet4471]

If l recall correctly in Spider man blue Peter says there's not a lot of long underwear that can fit inside the Spidey suit

[@Ujabuja]

I love how they did Dr. Strange's cape where it actually has usefulness

[@JimRFF]

Arguably the cape could be considered a second super hero itself, given that it's sentient and, ya know, literally magical

[@senorstyx3011]

His cape was always useful, it helps him float.

[@S3verance]

That cape literally carries Dr.strange (Pun intended)

[@SiverFangBlackWing]

There's also another part that I think should be mentioned. Grabbing that cape won't also mean grabbing Dr. Strange. I think more capes should just break away if grabbed. Make it a bit like a lizard's tail.

[@finnmchugh99]

It brutally murdered a minion guy... I ain't gonna argue with that cuz it's awesome

[@Boredman567]

I remember reading that superheroes' tights were based on early 1900s strongmen, who wore tights and skimpy clothing to show off their muscles. Skintight/skimpy outfits are also better for mobility, like what athletes wear.

[@scottdufferland]

This is correct. The outfits were based on strongmen.

[@KageNoTenshi]

Comic book artists be like, yes this is totally our reasoning, see how much we makes sense

[@enma9359]

so that also explaining why superheroes comic book become unpopular today since they desexualized character a lot lol

[@KageNoTenshi]

@@enma9359 pretty sure if someone put their politics such as their wokeness above story telling, it is bound to fail rather or not they had sex in their drawing, look at star wars, and dozens more of Hollywood’s “blockbusters”, or look at bleach even, the entire drawing style had s-e-x spelled all over it, but story sucks ass, and it had to be cut Having sex appeal is great and certainly helps, but it still need a good story, seriously there is plenty comics or manga with little to no sexual appeal in their drawing style, but they had amazing stories, and they were great and are still to this day classics

[@enma9359]

@@KageNoTenshi agreed, i think the main problem is because today comic kinda aim to wider audience while back then they only aim for male audience, that why there's so many out of palace wokeness and agenda over the story since they think having wokeness kinda appeal majority female reader while in fact it's not lol and for bleach i think they just shitty fanservice to begin with (with extragratted boobs, weird looking female faces, and over skimpy outfit) that why it's not really popular, if you want to take example for fanservice anime with bad story i think to love ru feels more fit than bleach imo :)

[@KageNoTenshi]

@@enma9359 it’s not the wider audience that’s the problem, they forgot to tell a good story period, look there are plenty of classics with woke underlying, but that’s exactly it, they were underlying, not over the fucking top and be put on top in priority even over the story itself

[@KageNoTenshi]

@@enma9359 in conclusion, it’s not rather to put sex in or woke in, either is fine, but tell a fucking good story, like I’ve said plenty of manga and comics has zero sex or woke in, but they were classics, and they are plenty ones with tons of sex appeal or wokeness that amount to nothing, because the story is shit, now of course there are also plenty with sex appeal and good story which are also classic, but the fact shows one does not have to involve the other

[@frankcasamento74]

I look at skin tight suits as practical. As a former athlete football and wrestling we ware incredibly tight jerseys and pants over the pads so it makes it harder to be grabbed. with wrestling you ware a singlet so there is nothing in the way of disrupting your movement.

[@calthekonqueror312]

that makes sense cause I've seen that in old football games that grabbing by the jersey was actually a practical way to pull them down.

[@AzureSkyCiel]

in short: Dr. Manhattan's nudity was not him being detached from humanity, but simply a galaxy brain move on his part coming to a similar conclusion as Shad.

[@simonkelly1410]

@@caml2602 I didnt want to read that today...

[@stevenscott2136]

Of course, in that world, nobody CAN fight with Doc. He could wear Marie Antoinette's wedding dress and it would be fine. I think he just likes to show off his nerd-to-buff transformation.

[@selinazwolski6390]

@@caml2602 LMAOOOOOOO XD

[@cowpercoles1194]

If you're a comic artist with a deadline, then drawing simple human figures and painting on a costume is a good way to draw up panels very quickly.

[@stefanlaskowski6660]

That's actually the real origin of skintight outfits. All the other explanations are retconned rationalization.

[@cowpercoles1194]

@@stefanlaskowski6660 Yep, and guys like John Romita made the women pretty and the men handsome, because in the 50s he had drawn hundreds of teen romance comics, which were in vogue after the superhero comics got censored. He just ported the art style he was fastest at into the silver age superhero comics.

[@ashtongiertz8728]

I think shading all the muscles and stuff would be highly time consuming.

[@hanseldsilva2393]

Exactly. Wouldn't it be less effort to hide every damn shred of muscle with a plain, loose fabric

[@cowpercoles1194]

@@ashtongiertz8728 They used to have a separate person, called an "inker", who would do that. However, to cut costs, Marvel phased out inkers, which is why a lot of their comics look flat and somewhat unprofessional these days.

[@Treebohr]

While watching this video, I couldn't help but imagine Hulk transforming and yelling, "I LIKE SHORTS! THEY'RE COMFY AND EASY TO WEAR!!"

[@MonkeyJedi99]

Or starring in a Duluth Trading Company ad. "Hulk like ballroom pants. Hulk also like firehose pants, when Hulk smash, pants stay gooder."

[@LuLurret]

Youngster Joey

[@nathank2289]

Aaaaahhhhhrrr puny trainer we pokemon battle Hulk chose Machamp!

[@Sam-iw6te]

Lol

[@jonathancraddock1810]

Who wears short shorts! Hulk wear short shorts!

[@narrowgroundentertainment]

This does make a lot of sense from a utilitarian standpoint. During my early teens baggy pants and loose hoodies became the norm for teenage guys, and I never adopted the fashion. I spent too much time climbing trees. Tight clothes were vastly less likely to catch on branches.

[@secretbaguette]

But tight clothes are a lot worse if you're considering say, getting into a fight, and having a knife pulled on you. If a guy pulls a switchblade, say, he's likely focusing on cutting you to ribbons. If you're wearing jeans (stab resistant, nearly slash proof) and a baggy sweatshirt, your choice of clothing either breaks up your outline, making it harder to cut the flesh beneath the clothes, or just straight up blocking them. (One step I took a bit further as a teen was wearing a legitemate woll greatcoat, which happens to be very durable, as well as being great at keeping oneself warm) Such principles can likewise be applied to stealth. A baggy sweatshirt will break up your outline, making you harder to identify as being a human, especially in the dark with muted shades of whatever choice color. It's just different optimization for different purposes.

[@testacals]

@@secretbaguette I can agree with you one that

[@sternis1]

Shad: "You don't wanna go around naked" Doctor Manhattan: "Hold my speedos"

[@NoFormalTraining]

Doctor Manhattan had the most peculiar way of hypnotising people.

[@treytucker9948]

looks down: "hug i would have thought it be bigger." DR. manhattan: ".... give me those back, i'm leaving save yourself."

[@angelusb2066]

@@treytucker9948 oh my God he didn't leave because of ozzy's plan he left because of penis jokes (I hope I don't come across like a prick I'm bad at tone)

[@hideousruin]

@@angelusb2066 I doubt he would give himself a small penis. He can control every subatomic particle of his existence.

[@kjhuang]

In Dr. Manhattan's case he could create a whole outfit (and one that's loose and expansive) that's as durable as he is. He just doesn't see the point.

[@TARINunit9]

I once read an article from a professional cosplayer saying that she would hate wearing leather or latex on a nightly basis. And spandex would be more comfortable, but would stretch and rip big whenever it ripped at all. So I think she would agree, having less clothing means less clothing damage, less costume woes between fights In addition, 6:40 reminds me of the Zombie Survival Guide: "tight clothes and short hair means you're harder to grab, means you're harder to bite"

[@IngramZero]

This reminds me of a She Hulk comic were she gets ambushed and during the fight her clothing is destroyed except for the negligee she ends up in. Her friend asks what it is made of and She Hulk replies silk and that it survived thanks to the Comic Authority Code which won't allow her to wrestle a villian naked.

[@SteelSpurs]

Even funnier considering that most “comic” fans nowadays would call this “objectification” but Jen herself thinks it’s pretty humorous.

[@bbsy1]

@@SteelSpurs objectification is based on the scenario and how often these scenarios occur, but usually marvel is situationally appropriate at least, where as DC does very little to hide their true intentions. That being said, a cartoon drawn by a man saying she doesn’t feel objectified really doesn’t mean anything.

[@SteelSpurs]

@@bbsy1 Yeah but even so, you can’t objectify a female character that doesn’t really exist.

[@nicknevco215]

censorship saved the day in some eyes

[@justinsadler5695]

The Jon Bryne run was classic, and set the bar for Shulk comics that has never once been surpassed.

[@yiklongtay6029]

It's super simple. The more indestructible you are, the more you can get away with skimpy outfits. Black Canary has no business wearing fishnets, but Superman can wear just a thong for all I care

[@metamaster646]

There is the argument of trying to distract your opponent, but yeah I do agree with you xD Altho let’s be honest Superman with a thong would be seriously distracting xD

[@theokrisna]

Just imagine Superman in Borat's mankini.

[@vincentthendean7713]

In fact, Superman wearing little to no clothing makes sense since he gets his power from the sun! (Hideo Kojima eat your heart out)

[@stevenandrewchua542]

@@metamaster646 and that fact everyone would see his Super-dong

[@tiagodagostini]

Depends... Black Canary objective might be to distract male henchmen :P It is hard to shoot into someone's head when you are looking at that someone's legs.

[@katanabluejay]

clothes getting destroyed were addressed in Luke Cage, he got shot abunch of times again and said "I'm getting real tired of having to by new clothes"

[@grisom5863]

Unfortunately, I don't think Luke Cage can afford super clothes yet.

[@a_blitz]

Thats what i liked in spiderman stories. In most of them his suit is made by himself from normal materials, so alot of the time the suit would end up cut or torn at places, and he would complain that it has to be fixed again

[@chrisrudolf9839]

Although if he got into weaving, he could probably produce a VERY durable fabric from his human-sized spider silk. That stuff is far stronger than steel cables of the same girth.

[@chipsk8361]

@@chrisrudolf9839 The problem with that is that his webs only last for like an hour, so he'd have to replace it every time it decayed

[@JarieSuicune]

@@chipsk8361 That would be awkward... though kinda like the transformation time limit in the Animorphs series. Only in his case it'd be just loss of clothing rather than permanently trapped in the form of whatever you were at the time.

[@tramico96]

THE SAINT OF BOOB ARMOUR HAS SPOKEN! PRAISE BE HIS SKIN TIGHT AND REVEALING SUIT!

[@nooneshome8746]

THAT IS THE WAY!!!!!!!!

[@Schwertleite26]

FOLLOW ME COMRADE !!!!

[@kennethsatria6607]

A Man of Culture and A Man of science!

[@ilovemetalmusic310]

Our lawd and savior! Praise be to him!

[@csch1510]

Comrade

[@ThePageTurnerPT]

Dr. Strange in the MCU also has a functional cape too, since its intelligent too

[@sonoftherabbitpeople4737]

...and it is also a cloak of levitation. Magical properties.

[@chairmanwumao1768]

It fights too

[@LSMMIKE]

Good video. Another thing to take into account is super speed. When a character is moving at incredible speeds the more loose or bulky their clothing is the more it adds up. Imagine how much drag the Flash would experience running faster than light if he was wearing a hoodie and sweat pants instead of his super tight suit. Or if someone was fighting an opponent of similar speed and their outfit was covered in armor. They would be at a disadvantage because their movement would require a factional amount of extra energy and time to execute actions. Also, another reason why Superman wore a skin tight suit is because he has a forcefield around his body which has a very close proximity to his skin. So by wearing a skin tight suit he is able to have it be underneath his forcefield and thus totally protected. I’m sure it was just written as an excuse to justify him not ending up naked after every intense fight, but it’s something.

[@Ocato92]

I don't think that Flash experiences a lot of drag. It's not physical superspeed, it's magical one. Speed Force is often used to justify why he can grab, and move people without turning then into mush, which would inevitably happen if you accelerate someone to Mach 5 in a split second. Because of that is seems to be more of a time manipulation or spacetime distortion force, that just manifests as running. Thus I don't think he's experiencing that high of a drag. The actual physical speedster would have to have suit that is extremely high-temperature resistant. I dream of a movie scene including speedster wearing casual clothing, than he accelerates in slow motion, and the cloths burn in the atmosphere revealing his/her suit!

[@peterwindhorst5775]

Take one look at the USAF high-altitude flight suit - It is skin-tight. If it was bulky - it could cause blood clots and kill the pilot

[@AndrewAce.]

Howdy, just watched the latest "What-If?"

[@KilosFoxo]

sonic runs around in frictionless shoes and gloves he can't remove (tsr twitter takeover) so he would have slightley less drag than the flash (and his arms behind him running stance is also more areodynamic and better at mach speeds than the flashes running stance)

[@Dr_Mauser]

I've theorized that there's also a "Strength Force" that allows heroes to catch airplanes without punching through the aluminum. And it operates at will, which is why they CAN punch through things when they want to. Said extensible strength also applies to their clothing.

[@Dr_Mauser]

As for why Superman "Wears his shorts on the outside." I figured that out a while ago. The blue bodysuit is crotchless, so he only has to drop his shorts to go to the bathroom. It just makes sense.

[@hailpickens2454]

This is so cursed I'm looking for this on Deviantart

[@carpedm9846]

This is so cursed but also makes a lot of sense

[@thepixelman4776]

Ok XD but I’m a nerd so..... actual reason is because he’s supposed to look like a circus strongman. Becuase.... well strongman.👍

[@goldengold8568]

This is some quantum level shit right here.

[@paxonite-7bd5]

So he is just wearing a skin tight suit with blue thigh highs

[@metamaster646]

You make some really good points, and while we all know the real reason the outfits are designed this way is to make the heroe marketable and attract some people, it’s really cool to see how you have made it realistic!

[@jasoncp3257]

So power rangers are the most realistic cause the head is the weakest part and needs to be protected. Imma go binge some SPD brb

[@horinum]

@@jasoncp3257 psd suits are all armor mate. Futuristic skintight armor made from some futuristic materials.

[@metamaster646]

@@jasoncp3257 oh great now I want to go watch spd to.

[@foldionepapyrus3441]

Agreed, though I think he missed one point about capes though - if you are wearing skin tight or skimpy you might just need something extra to stay warmer and more comfortable at those moments when you are not right now fighting, but the job isn't done - all those points when you are flying the flag, co-ordinating the team, waiting for the scumbags to show, or just being noticeable in the hopes being there keeps things civil so the poor city doesn't get smashed to bits...(yes the superhero might be durable enough to not really need it, but would you choose to be uncomfortable when you can choose comfort) As long as you can release it easily when it matters.. Also if you are grappling having the opponent reach for you, and just tear off the cuff from your sleeve gives you an advantage - they have committed but failed to actually secure your arm, so you should get a free shot or two into them - so loose billowy but fragile could actually make sense - its going to get inconveniently torn to shreds, but conveniently they are going to find it hard to get a good grip on you - making your victory easier, and I assume you can afford some more cloth... Though that would be very situational based on the wearers exact blend of abilities - if you are not heavy/strong enough that the ripping of the clothing will easily pull you off balance for instance its a terrible idea...

[@jasoncp3257]

We all know its secretary spandex tho so

[@mayhemivory5730]

Also: air resistance. specifically for speedsters. you would want skin tight clothing that doesn’t flap around.

[@trenwilson6613]

Your not a flash fan are you? I remember that specific problem when flash first developed his super hero suit. And just because Shad asked for it, "HULK"

[@notsm]

I also imagine whiplash to be hella uncomfortable for a speedster.

[@adambielen8996]

Which comes back to the idea of Super Heroes wearing clothes similar to athletes.

[@rinflame44]

*cough* capes *cough*

[@Bedgie01]

you would also need it to be extremely heat resistant as the faster you go the more air friction you would encounter

[@allanroberts7129]

I find your conclusion sound. I do have two interesting little additions that i'm surprised you didn't cover. 1. Skin tight outfits and skimpy outfits can fit under normal clothes. 2. Espionage outfits. Black or very dark, full body outfits intended to hide the wearer. Ex: Batman, Black Canary, Black Panther, Venom Spiderman, etc, are all well designed if the user desires to hide.

[@luisfelipeyanezvasquez7314]

in the particular case of venom, it is literally a living outfit, but I get your point

[@itatane]

Also, as a tongue in cheek bonus, mind you... Scantily clad superheroes probably make it very hard for adversaries to concentrate.

[@PANCAKEMINEZZ]

As for #1 I totally forgot about the old trope of Superman changing in the phone booth and other super heroes doing similar things. Though that's probably because big super hero movies and shows now traded that for the idea of the "homebase costume change scene", probably popularized by the first Iron Man movie, but also a constant trope in Batman as well. I think the only super hero that even does that whole "outfit under the normal clothes" thing anymore in pop culture is Spiderman. I can't talk on the comic as I never read any.

[@allanroberts7129]

@@itatane fun fact: there have been armies in the past that literally charged into battle naked, with only their weapons and shields to intimidate their enemies. Also, if I were a villain and I saw Wonder Woman (or Cat Woman, or Power Girl, or Starfire...) walking toward me, you bet I'd be more than a little distracted.

[@SpiderboyN2Jesus]

@@PANCAKEMINEZZ pretty sure the Batman movies did it first. I can definitely forgive you if you forgot about those disturbing scenes at the beginning of the Schumacher films, lol 😅😳...

[@powermasterjazz]

Batman's cape is really the only cape that makes sense, not just because he glides with it. He also wants make doped-up criminals believe he's a giant bat and his cape simulates giant bat wings.

[@Cynicalhamptur]

In one of the batman animated comic that is linked to the batman animated cartoon in the 90s, Dick Grayson stated that the cape is used to hide the vital parts of the body when diving down to attack bad guys. Or it can be used to hide their own vital organs

[@surprisetroll5700]

I saw a dif comment talking about this and he said that batman uses a cape because it confuses criminals and causes them to shoot at his cape

[@amandaslough125]

Robin's cape also had flame resistant properties for shielding from heat blasts.

[@bonolio]

Also worth commenting that Batmans cape is often closer to a cloak, which is a far more functional item.

[@jonathansands3304]

Dr. Strange’s Cloak of Levitation works too, as Shad said, because it has a function other than “looks cool”.

[@Phoenixash-delfuego]

"what are you doing superman?" "Sorry officer the bad guy's punch was so hard my clothes atomised."

[@stephenstonge7968]

That's the moment Superman got called The Flash.

[@speedy01247]

this actually happened in a recent movie (well not the cops being called, but him being naked in front of a crowd after a fight)

[@cheeseisjar3058]

@@speedy01247 wait in a movie? I can see that in a comic but in a movie?

[@legendarywarrior6127]

@@cheeseisjar3058 Man of Tomorrow. Animated movie.

[@mryellow6918]

Well you see superman's suit makes sense that it's virtually indestructible since he would sweat alot.

[@BlackHei711]

“The reason heroes wear capes is to wrap up and protect little girls in pain.” -Mirio Togata

[@riteshjadhav1382]

Sounds good

[@NotABot55]

"Not all heroes wear capes." - some anon on the internet "Metaman, express elevator! Dynaguy, snagged on takeoff! Splashdown, sucked into a vortex! No capes!" - Edna Mode

[@amatiste]

Or getting caught in jetliner engines.... 😁

[@riteshjadhav1382]

@@amatiste hilarious 😂

[@darthblade2016]

@@NotABot55 fantastic, haha

[@blainweb8675]

As Shad is a hero, I expect him to present his new skin tight gambeson in the next vid.

[@brandonogden3498]

He's not a SUPERhero though. Protective clothing still makes a lot of sense for more mundane heroes.

[@battlemastergenkhan4622]

@@brandonogden3498 mundane? Shad?! Does thou wish to be ended rightly?

[@bastionsea2829]

@@battlemastergenkhan4622 he's talking about invulnerable heros,Shad isn't, he actually speaks of 'normal' people at the start

[@battlemastergenkhan4622]

@@bastionsea2829 twas a jest my friend. Twas a jest.

[@thunderhammer7]

@@battlemastergenkhan4622 Shad chose the 'normal human' start for this playthrough of Outside. I think he hasn't fulfilled the prerequisites for the 'hero' start.

[@joeb5316]

Late to the game, but in John Byrne's 1986 re-envisioning of Superman his foster mother actually mentioned in the first issue that clothing that was close to his skin picked up invulnerability from his body. This factoid lent a lot of emphasis in his fight with Doomsday in Death of Superman because his outfit getting shredded was visually demonstrating to the reader just how much damage he was taking.

[@shockthetoast]

I came to the comments to see if anyone mentioned this. I believe the explanation was his body radiated a protective field, but it was very thin. So his costume had to be very thin in order to benefit from that. It also meant his cape would often be torn to shreds in a battle but not that rest of his clothing.

[@troperhghar9898]

Her costume is part of why power girl is one of my favorite hero's Green lantern: why do you wear high heels? Power girl: I like heels and I can fly Green arrow: and your costume is pretty skin tight Power girl: I wear it under my street clothes for easy access and it's kyrptonion so indestructible

[@MissCaraMint]

Yeah I suppose you never have to worry about your feet hurting from hight heels if you don't actually have to walk on them. I would probably wear them too if I could fly.

[@TheMasterBlaze]

Not to mention the heels would probably break before a kryptonians ankles.

[@troperhghar9898]

@@TheMasterBlaze plus I've seen how black canary uses her heels in a fight for a neck shot, then add kryptonian strength

[@TheMasterBlaze]

@@troperhghar9898 Exactly! People forhet the heels are just desinger shiv's! 🤣🤣🤣

[@troperhghar9898]

@@TheMasterBlaze behold The beyanetta look Those arnt knives in your heels thier guns

[@wearenumberonebutimaperson]

I feel like superhero outfits would just basically be gym wear, which as we know can be super skimpy at times, but could also be modest

[@KringleOverdrive]

If I’m going to be fighting people with daggum super powers, I’m wearing a full suit of chain mail and plate. I’m not trying to look cool, I’m trying to stay alive.

[@fionordequester6748]

@@KringleOverdrive You think the chain mail and plate would stand up to Superman?

[@fungusfood8097]

@@KringleOverdrive in plate you'd get punched once, it would puncture and youve now got ripped steel edges jutting into your wound.

[@lordnul1708]

Also, I like how in that one scene from the The Avengers, Bruce Banner actually needed to be given a new pair of trousers after transforming back from his Hulk state. Even if they survived the transformation, I highly doubt a given pair would be able to revert back to Bruce's size unless they were full on Mr Fantastic levels of stretchy.

[@kronosaur417]

Didn’t stark design a pair of stretchable pants for him? Or did that never make it on screen?

[@lordnul1708]

@@kronosaur417 I think that might have been after the fact. But in the comics it almost definitely happened at some point. Edit: DAMN YOU AUTOCORRECT

[@UnswimmingFishYT]

That's what the hulk needs; a better pair of shorts that will stay correctly sized.

[@Santisima_Trinidad]

@@kronosaur417 I seem to remember it being a background detail in one of the film's that some stretchy blue pants were in one of tony's Labs. Although hulks pants are apparantly the only thing which stan lee had never actually been able to justify with anything approaching logic, even comic book logic.

[@tuliobednarczukpecinemisko5606]

In universe,the material is called unstable molecules,its also used in FF comics.

[@hydrolito]

Shorts over tights was how Circus acrobats, strongmen, Gymnasts and wrestlers use to dress dressed was used by Flash Gordon in 1934 and The Phantom in 1936 and Superman in 1938.

[@KennethSee]

I know it’s anime but My Hero Academia has a moment where one of the teachers explains that many powers are hindered by loose clothing (or clothing at all) which is why heroes wear skin tight or revealing clothing. I know it was an excuse for fan service but I still think it applies here.

[@zionmarcelo]

that's why you see less and less clothing in the Olympics

[@enderwarlord3226]

@@zionmarcelo remember, they used to do them naked. But it gets complicated, when you start thinking how muscleless parts like breast, male geniticals etc. effect performance. They need something to hold those parts in place, ass they fight/fly etc. #underwears matter

[@mikedanielespeja6128]

@@enderwarlord3226 So the bare minimum clothing is skin tight tighty whities then?

[@lesliekilgore648]

@@mikedanielespeja6128 let's put it this way, Olympic swimmers ALL SHAVE EVERYTHING. boys and girls alike Nair shave use chemicals bla bla bla. all over. they ALL wear tight TIGHT caps on their heads, have short hair on their heads. all in the name of lowering skin to water friction. there are even Olympic RULES stating what types of skin creams, ointments, soaps etc. the competitors are allowed to use before a race. heck, even Bicyclists shave their legs, if they don't wear tights on their bottom halves. National Sports Teams don't just have 'fashion designers' making their outfits, they have scientists, wind and water tunnels, slow motion photography.

[@lesliekilgore648]

then of course there is the practicality of enhancing somebody's power with a device or outfit. like the MHA girl who makes objects from her skin out of her own body's lipids. her having a fair amount of skin visible is necessary for her to say 'pull a rope out of her cleavage' so she can lower team-mates down a cliff or haul injured civilians out of harm's way. the guy with the 'navel-lazer' needs a focus lens in his belt buckle. even the Main Character figures out that his 'super strength' is destroying his bones ligaments and joints no matter how hard he trains his muscles. so he needs special gloves, and bracers, and shoes, and shin-guards that can handle his strength and protect his body from his own power.

[@jio_graze1491]

the first person to draw a scantily clad super hero: "yeah... wait what did you guys THINK they were dressed like that for?"

[@pacosoentken303]

That would be Lee Falk

[@pacosoentken303]

"Falk revealed in an interview that Robin Hood, who was often depicted as wearing tights, inspired the skin-tight costume of "The Phantom", which is known to have influenced the entire superhero-industry." a bit of superhero comic history here

[@zzodysseuszz]

@@pacosoentken303 the original phantom wore leather straps for guns and belts and all that so he’s not exactly comparable. As someone who owns some of his oldest comics that were bought when they first came to stores

[@pacosoentken303]

@@zzodysseuszz maybe not, but wikipedia here is talking about the tights and the "skin tight costume"

[@darrinscott6612]

It's easier to draw people in skin-tight clothing.

[@JDrunkSquid]

The most absolute durable clothing item of all heroes and villains: Hulks purple shorts

[@LucyWest370]

This is probably actually canon In spiderman 2099 spiderman uses a special kind of suit fabric called unstable molecule fabric which basically means it’s skintight and isn’t damaged easily. I like to imagine that Bruce Banner, being super smart and rich or whatever, probably uses this fabric for his pants.

[@alexeecs]

@@LucyWest370 Why not use it for his whole body though

[@LucyWest370]

@@alexeecs I mean Bruce banner normally wears button up shirts. Either he doesn’t see it necessary or it wouldn’t stretch that far.

[@PhilBagels]

@@LucyWest370 Unstable molecule fabric has been used by the Fantastic Four for decades. This allows the uniform to stretch along with Mr. Fantastic's body, turn invisible with Invisible Woman, and not burn when the Human Torch flames on.

[@LucyWest370]

@@PhilBagels lol I was actually not aware of this, thanks for telling me. I never read the fantastic 4 stuff so I assumed it was a 2099 thing

[@MichaelWilliams-mn7wf]

I think most super hero costumes are subject to the same physics that allows Superman to catch a plane without it breaking up.

[@danielhuelsman76]

It actually was based on this logic from the very beginning when Superman's design was influenced by circus strongmen, and often other outfits are made by the philosophy of "If I want my hero to look strong/fast/etc. I should give them clothing from athletes".

[@jamesfstokes]

Very insightful, I never really thought about it that way. 😎

[@TrueUnderDawgGaming]

Man of culture saves the day again!

[@dantekenway7900]

Too bad it couldn’t save your hair from thinning lmao

[@matthaeusperry4319]

@@dantekenway7900 u don't have to do his hair dirty like that

[@marcellessharpe4016]

Yo what's up underdog

[@bobayameyers334]

Holy hell hey underdawg

[@shawnthomasthomas6080]

Hi underdawg

[@ShinDangaioh]

I always thought that the super-hero outfits were based off the circus strongmen and acrobats. Speaking of strongmen, that is why Supes has trunks on his outfit. The strongmen wore tights and when they did their powerlifting, the tights could rip along the seam . The seam on the trunks goes different and keeps the strongmen from mooning everyone.

[@slothbaby2104]

Yeah Superman costume is based off American strongmen

[@khhnator]

most female super hero outfits are pretty much based on the iconic 80's gym outfits, which was also aroung the time that female super heroes stoped being outliers

[@SG-js2qn]

This design goes back. IIRC, there's a political cartoon of Bismarck and he's wearing a strongman suit. Not sure when the trend started.

[@KennAKALeo]

Also, there is a different modesty factor. Tights are, well tight. And well, Superman doesn't need the world seeing the silhouette of his super-junk through his blue tights, so he covers it. Same applies to real world strongmen and acrobats.

[@coolorochi]

These are extremely informational. Great read!

[@JacF6734]

You are single-handedly saving all writers from looking sexist. Thank you.

[@kingdavidthegreatprick5410]

Nothing wrong with women in less clothing

[@alexanderbivens4886]

I don't see anything sexist here anyway. Even the male superheroes are wearing those suits so skintight you can see every single muscle.

[@galactigod]

There's people that will continue to claim it is.

[@franzim6668]

@@alexanderbivens4886 Well, i think the issue comes less from the clothing alone but more from the fact that female superheros often times used to be posed in a more sexualized way, too. You see it less nowadays (at least in DC Comics, can't say much about other publishers) but go a few years back and it was super common to have the female superheroes be the damsel in distress/have them powerless in situations with a rape-y vibe, have them do weird dancing poses all the time (or the infamous snake spine to show off boobs and ass in the same panel), etc.

[@alexanderbivens4886]

@@franzim6668 well, back in the day, the comics used to be niche, and the targeted demographic mostly male. I still wouldn't call it sexist, just as much as I wouldn't call hot shirtless guys with abs on the cover of female focused smutty romance novels sexist. Of course nowadays, most of the most popular movies and shows and stuff is at the very least based on comics, so they can't continue to treat it like a niche male focused subgenre like they used to. Of course, ironically enough, despite the popularity of comic based content, the comic industry itself is dying or dead anyway, so it is a moot point regardless.

[@kobidreamer]

Gotta love it when logic happens to be easy on the eyes

[@scienceteam9254]

wolverine in movies: *gets incinerated* boxers: "i'm gonna do what's called a pro gamer move"

[@mekudu-man3804]

say the n-word?

[@muanilunga]

@@mekudu-man3804 well actually he said c word there

[@hithere8789]

@@muanilunga I take it that someone made a racist comment and was removed

[@elbolainas4174]

Then Saitama just gets naked and he didn't even care

[@caiodiniz7371]

The funny thing is that the martian mannhunter "clothes" are just part of him, using his shapeshitf power. So he could choose to look fully covered, but i guess he likes to show of

[@thefisherman0074]

Don’t blame the guy XD

[@SpiderboyN2Jesus]

Well, his species don't wear clothes at all. He just makes himself look more like humans so they don't freak out when they seem. ... However, it ironic that his idea of clothing that makes people feel comfortable is essentially a very colorful bdsm outfit 😳... Granted, if it's early in his time on Earth, he might just not be familiar with our customs, lol 😅. He has worn less revealing outfits in more recent years, lol 😅.

[@caiodiniz7371]

@@SpiderboyN2Jesus guess that his first stop upon arriving on earth was on a strip club 😂😂

[@SpiderboyN2Jesus]

@@caiodiniz7371 lol 🤣! Or maybe he thought that was normal based on all the superhero outfits he'd seen, lol 😅.

[@caiodiniz7371]

@@SpiderboyN2Jesus Nah, i think he saw He-Man on TV and have taken it to hart

[@ReedCBowman]

I believe the very first story of Superman from the comic books has his adoptive mother, Martha Clark Kent, sewing his suit out of the blankets he was wrapped in when he landed on Earth.

[@darkscot1338]

Ok so going with this, lets assume the material is porous to allow her to sew. What did she use as thread?

[@andrevandervlies5700]

@@darkscot1338 IIRC she used a shard from the crashed pod baby Kal-El arrived in to pierce and cut the cloth. And she pulled strands out of it to use as thread.

[@darkscot1338]

@@andrevandervlies5700 curious that she didn't need any relative force for the piercing but perhaps the shard was like a hot knife and the cloth butter sort of situation.

[@andrewjohnson6716]

@@darkscot1338 According to the comics of the time, she drew threads out of the fabric and then sewed the fabric with those. The patterns were cut out by Superboy snipping the fabric with his fingernails.

[@darkscot1338]

@@andrewjohnson6716 that makes sense. Just avoid Catfights with kryptonians then.

[@Highbrowser]

I remember in the Ed Norton Hulk, he actually shops for stretchy pants with his body growth in mind. must have had some bad experiences.

[@thomasweeden2683]

Love that movie

[@dr.calibrations7984]

After he fights the dogs I'm pretty sure his green donger is out. Obviously you can't see his weenie but im pretty sure you see some green cheeks. Speaking of green cheeks She-Hulk tho (the hot one from the 90s)

[@O4C209]

Further proof that WWE (really all "professional wrestlers") are just living out the superhero fantasy.

[@darthblade2016]

True, but its still fun to watch.....or at least, it was when there were cool wrestlers, lol. I have always gravitated to the wrestlers who wore more than underwear though (Undertaker, Kane, Cena, Sting, R-Truth, Tommy Dreamer, Mysterio, etc)

[@jemal999]

+

[@TheSilverPhoenix100]

Speaking as a big wrestling fan...yeah actually. They basically are suppose to be comic heroes come to life. Characters who take aspects of their personalities and dial them up to 11. In fact you could make a really good argument that them getting away from the spectacle and grounding it more in reality is why wrestling has fallen out of the mainstream popularity it had in the 80's and late 90's

[@JosePerez-nz4bl]

It would be interesting to study the heroes who's powers give them clothing. Like green lantern or Thor.

[@RandoBox]

Very awkward when there is a "lose your powers" plotline.

[@Jfk2Mr]

@@RandoBox like "somebody stole my clothes when I was under shower"?

[@drakoslayd]

Thor's clothes/armor wasn't given his clothes from his powers. He just has them for added protecton

[@Neutral_Tired]

@@drakoslayd that depends, in the MCU there are multiple examples of his armour appearing when he gets his weapons

[@Ideo7Z]

If the Lantern's ring quits his uniform reverts back to civilian attire. Same with Thor.

[@kopaka94]

That's why I love how in Luke Cage on the tv series needs to replace his t shirt several times per episode because it's constantly full of bullet holes.

[@eaglebearer]

I'm disappointed we didn't get to see Shad in a skin tight outfit.

[@marvalice3455]

Or ttunks and harness!

[@drcrimsoniam9395]

My man, I would love to see that

[@the11382]

Stupid sexy Shad!

[@hebl47]

Maybe he filmed this whole thing in such an outfit and that's the reason we don't see him in this video actually talking (or moving). Because the editor just couldn't handle it.

[@jan-timolobner]

Same.

[@logansmith2703]

I really miss that classic Ms. Marvel costume... And also when she wasn't terrible in the comics.

[@AxxLAfriku]

HELP MY!!! My muscles are too big! I am a big tall man and my muscles are even BIGGER! I use them to get views but they HURT so much!!! Because they are heavy. Do you have any advice, dear logan

[@D.Jay.]

No hip shashes! it's just a cape in disguise.

[@AEsir_Goji]

I miss comics not being terrible in general

[@GrandTriskelion]

ms marvel kamala Khan? is she not awsome anymore. I haven't followed comics in a long time

[@ChoZenWuen]

@@GrandTriskelion no classic ms marvel

[@AnaseSkyrider]

There was an interesting utility to capes presented by Lemillion in My Hero Academia: using it to wrap up injured people. Like the little girl they were trying to save, or perhaps thinking more outside the box, to close a wound, help make a splint, etc. Capes have a very iconic symbol of heroism to inspire others.

[@TheBigWizzard]

Huh I wonder if the Legend of St. Martin somehow plays into this.

[@Lobstro]

Agreed. I could see a superhero having a closet full of disposable capes. Also, capes are designed to easily come off if they are yanked, so there is no risk of being pulled backwards to your death by your cape. It can even be a good distraction if you are grappling with an opponent. They will grab your cape, thinking they have a hold on you, and they will be caught off guard when it easily comes off.

[@t.r.everstone7]

Freaking love that guy

[@3mpt7]

Ah yes. The towel. Very important. Never go anywhere without your towel. Especially whilst hitchhiking.

[@garethholman1050]

Another argument for skin tight clothing is that it shows off the physique as well, this can serve to augment their intimidation factor for those the heroes are trying to stop/bring to justice.

[@Lonaticus]

Batman tends to be the exception when it comes to a lot of things, in this case capes. He uses his as a glider, as a disguise and to conceal weapons inside, or conceal their initial trajectory. Another interesting case of a semi-cape is old depictions of spider-man where he had this web-cape underneath his armpits that helped him glide. So for characters with few or no superhuman traits capes make sense. They can be used as shelter, disguise, gliders or places to conceal hidden weapons. It is not justified though for characters with superhuman strength since they don't need them for any of those uses, except maybe concealment.

[@ilhandaanish2381]

I like to think Batman’s cape Also acts as a bulletproof cover in case he does not have an easy place to take cover. And in batman brave and the bold Batman’s cape coukd even then into a jet pack so there’s that

[@coryphaeus9346]

The skimpy, skin tight outfits made sense to me. It’s the high heels I’ve never understood

[@RaderizDorret]

It's a pair of stabbing weapons that are always at hand, so to speak.

[@AlexJReil]

Yeah, imagine twisting an ankle in a life or death fight.

[@erikbjelke4411]

Part of it might be intimidation. Yes, many superpowered females are more fit and muscular than the average male, and taller than the average female, but are they taller than the average male? Adding a few inches in height might make them so, and make it more likely for an average crook to surrender instead of fight. Our hindbrains respond to things that LOOM over us.

[@vkdeen7570]

@@AlexJReil well they're super durable like wonder woman ... so her ankles aren't gonna just break. they have tremendous balance as well so thats not an issue... if anything getting kicked or heeled (stomped especially) by wonder woman would be worse than being done the same by superman in flats

[@nra3zehuti781]

Maybe women REALLY love high heels?

[@IjaxS]

Superman's costume's durability is helped by one of his lessee know "powers". In the comics, when his mother Martha was sewing his first costume she remarked that since his childhood she had noticed that any close fitting clothing on him neither got dirty or got worn out, and therefore she made him a tight fitting costume. Also, because it made his muscles pop. 😀 Plot Armor.

[@unapuma]

Supes has an "aura of invincibility" that helps the costume stay safe.

[@1krani]

I thought she just stitched the suit using the indestructible space-thread he was wrapped in when he arrived.

[@unapuma]

@@1krani in some stories he does, but he would run out of material sooner or later if he can't make more.

[@shadoman7682]

@@unapuma That was only in one of the later re-boots. Superman outfit was made from the blankets he was wrapped in as a baby. His boot were made from the padding inside the cockpit. So they were as invulnerable as him. In one story an atomic bomb had detonated above San Francisco before was able to stop it. He wrapped his cape around the outgoing exploitation to contain it and flew up into space to release the energy and radiation.

[@dimanoetske6303]

@@1krani how do you stitch something indestructible? Wouldn't she need a needle that could actually puncture the fabric?

[@gabrielallen6827]

You completely forget that they wear them also to put under their Secret Identity clothing so they can change a split second faster whenever they need to.

[@THEMIGHTYQBAG]

Ned Flanders: "It's like I'm wearing nothing at all."

[@MrImastinker]

Stupid sexy Flanders!

[@miguelmontenegro3520]

Maximum mobility saves Metropolis

[@WW-vp2kv]

Nothing at all-- Nothing at all--

[@andyknightwarden9746]

What he said: "It's like I'm wearing nothing at all!" What was heard: "I'm naked!"

[@supsup335]

I remember a scene from young justive were flash tells new recruits why they wear these flashy outfits with symbols on them. "They are targets". I kinda love that idea

[@AnoAssassin]

Oh to separate them from civilians and whatnot? Like a superhero version of being identifiable as a combatant

[@supsup335]

@@AnoAssassin Yep. That was why the "Team" in young justice was dicuraged from wearing visibly marked outfits. They were supposed to operate undercover and use the high visibility of the normal heroes as cover. The Herosuits are flashy and dtick out, catching the eye of all villains who aren't colorblind.

[@andrewjohnson6716]

In Frank Miller's "The Dark Knight Returns" miniseries Batman's inner voice says "People wonder why I wear a bright yellow symbol on my black costume. It's a target. It's because it's hard to armor your face."

[@jfisch]

The whole time he was talking about capes I was thinking if Edna in The Incredibles and then he played the clip and it made my day!

[@awesome_by_default]

NO CAPES!

[@HappyBeezerStudios]

Velcro them on. Have that amazing entrance, but then throw it off, finish the bad guy, and stick it back on. Only reason to have a cape **during** the fight, would be to disorient them. And there is no guarantee that it even works.

[@barrymanning4861]

@@HappyBeezerStudios Like with bulls, it’s not the red that makes them charge the cape, it’s the movement

[@johnbenjamin6698]

The point you made about grappling especially makes sense when you think about wrestling. Whether pro, amateur or sumo; tighter fitting or skimpier outfits not only limit your opponents handholds, but gives them obvious targets that make their actions more predictable. It also makes flyers more aerodynamic at high speeds. Theoretically the cape would stiffing at these speeds and then aid in maneuverability.

[@bare_bear_hands]

Which explains why Spider Man is always broke, his worst enemy is the tailor bill.

[@jherazob]

"We have money" "Thank god!"

[@andrewthegeek6522]

He is'nt always broke in a lot of versions he starts a tech company and becomes super rich, but movies are yet to show his character after high school

[@spectrumaevum7476]

@@andrewthegeek6522 The recent movies do a rather poor job of showing his struggles to earn money. Honestly, though he does end up founding his own company, it happens much later, post college, I believe. Before, then, he struggled more than a broke college undergrad. It would make sense just how much his suit would drain his finances: it's basically his very lifeline in some cases.

[@viscountrainbows6452]

In one of the Sega games there was a mechanic where you HAD to take photographs of enemies to get paid at the end of a level to buy web fluid as pickups were scarce. So yeah between maybe having to repair and refuel, it's a rough life.

[@geoshark12]

Fun fact he actually his own tailor

[@masterproductions1179]

Dr. Strange: so anyway my Cape started flying

[@HappyBeezerStudios]

Well, in his case it's the cape that does the flying, so without cape, no flight. But on the other hand, the cape can fly on it's own, giving Dr. Strange a nice distraction while he does his sorcery.

[@QuantenMagier]

The cape is the actual superhero and it is using Dr. Strange as an utility to have a PhD.

[@sighman9209]

Well that cape is a semi sentient ancient magical artefact loyal to him, with extra utilities like flying and high durability it can also detatch on it's own, when called for.

[@Treble453]

Yes but the cape is kind of sentient and the source of his flight.

[@cyberleaderandy1]

Cyclists, runners, gymnasts etc etc all wear lycra and tight clothing because it helps movement.

[@danilima6970]

Good point for movement, but these professions don't have to care about ,punches, slashes and bullets, but we could Just argue some high tech mambo jambo

[@dave_h_8742]

@VINCENTNATTI "What's wrong with men wearing bra's". (Reeves and Mortimer)

[@supremecaffeine2633]

@@danilima6970 Or superhuman durable, reflexes, etc. Ya know, superhero abilities.

[@beccag2758]

True, but speaking from experience, kneeskins (the knee length racing suits female swimmers use) are borderline constricting because of how tight they are. (They also take a freaking long time to get on but apparently that’s not an issue for superheroes)

[@danilima6970]

@@supremecaffeine2633 even in these cases would be useful clothes to withstand damage ,só they don't end up naked, about super dodge, ir would be smart to have a back up plan, Batman dodge most blows,but use a special suit to things he can't dodge in case of a mistake move. I just think, if you have a useful resource, don't Just give it away.

[@jobrodgers-foster3403]

Totally UNECESSARY & completely ENTERTAINING video !!! I particularly enjoy the shots of the narrator !!! Thank you !!!

[@SereglothIV]

Okay, looks like someone damaged your gambeson and that's why: 1. We can't see you live, just old photos from when the gambeson was still intact. 2. You're talking about superhero outfits being fragile.

[@demogorgonzola]

...and then there are dudes like Dr. Manhattan or Silver Surfer, flying around with nothing but "paint" :)

[@Ideo7Z]

Silver Surfer's skin is actually cosmic armour~That Guy

[@silverrakhsh34]

At least they have paint on them, poor invisible man can't wear anything even if he wanted to!

[@krabkit]

@@silverrakhsh34 Translucent's skin turns into armor when he goes invisible

[@lacidar3752]

That’s the secret. Most supers don’t wear clothes, they’re strategically colored nude figures.

[@fixint3703]

That’s epic

[@evanstential]

The athlete comparison was super! I look at Wonder Woman and her outfit and it makes sense since she lives on an island and is arguably inspired by swimmers. I think of the feats the heros must perform are daily athletic!!

[@SysterYster]

But why does she have high heels? That part makes no sense whatsoever as it will reduce running speed, balance, and flexibility. XD I guess it looks nice. :P

[@davidmartensson273]

@@SysterYster Maybe they are spring loaded :P But no, its probably due to the intended audience :/

[@jeffmartin5419]

See also: MMA fighters. They're fighting other people and don't wear armor, so what do they choose? Fewest handholds.

[@awesome_by_default]

@BattleAngelFan As someone who is a fan of the soft-looking women with large chests, I can still see the appeal of an athletic women. It's basically the ultimate in "healthy looking" people. Not saying that people who aren't athletic are unhealthy, far from it. I just think that being athletic is that one step above being perfectly healthy, and biologically, humans are coded to be attracted to healthy people.

[@michaelmccarty1327]

Don't swimsuits that are designed for athletic performance usually have shoulder straps, though? I'm not hating on the Wonder Woman outfit, but I think if you were to try to go for speed swimming in a suit like that, you'd have a lot of counterproductive drag around the cleavage area. Shoulderless outfits look great, I can't lie; but if you're arguing for functionality, swimming can't do that.

[@pakese30]

We also have some outfits which are definitely skimpy but made of material which will still save them such as Wonder Woman’s armoured outfit, especially the new design, plus superman’s cape in some stories is made from his baby blanket from his home world which is made from material that’s also invulnerable.

[@retroarktv9865]

"You don't want to go around naked!" *Laughs in Dr. Manhattan*

[@johnquach8821]

Tbf Dr. Manhattan is almost invincible and almost nothing can hurt him (except Perpetua, the Darkest Knight, Death Metal Wonder Woman, etc.)

[@retroarktv9865]

@@johnquach8821 Okay, that doesn't really explain the need to let it hang freeball. That's just a fear/distraction tactic if you ask me.

[@retroarktv9865]

@@johnquach8821 And before you say it. I know, it's something, something electric blue lightning skin something, something.

[@johnquach8821]

@@retroarktv9865 I think Doctor Manhattan explained in Watchmen that he had discarded his clothing along with his humanity. This is symbolic.

[@fabulous_finn7810]

@@johnquach8821 and it's a tactic used by many warriors throughout history as an intimidation tactic

[@LordTactusMe]

When the world is plunged into darkness, when men go against men, friends against friends, kin against kin, he who knoweth the truth will appear and sayeth: “Skimpy superhero outfits are alright”.

[@achi-baba]

Spawn's cape also makes some sense, since it's a living weapon.

[@wolfgang6442]

Yea agreed

[@vaughnjohnson8767]

Well in MHA season 4 Mirio explains that a cape is for wrapping up people so that that they may feel protected from villains. That moment impacted me hard

[@BobMcBobJr]

@@vaughnjohnson8767 Now I'm imagining a hero carrying someone out of a battle wrapped up in his cape and thrown over his shoulder like a bag of money.

[@vaughnjohnson8767]

@@BobMcBobJr lol. Nice

[@yogsothoth915]

I'd argue that Superman's cape serves a similar role to a war banner. Especially given how fast he is, its probably immensely reassuring to realize that blur is fluttering red with blue.

[@jayrubio3633]

Hey Shad! Great Video. Long-time fan. I agree with EVERYTHING you said in this video and have actually used many of the same points in discussions I've had myself. The only piece I didn't agree with was your comment on the clothing Starfire and Vampirella have been depicted wearing. Starfire uses ultraviolet radiation for her powers, so she needs her skin to be open to the sun, and Vampirella is an alien with super strength and speed, not unlike Martian Manhunter, just to a much lower degree, so the same said about his clothing choice would apply to her. Plus, Vampirella uses her looks as a weapon, so thoughts?

[@Patricio4Christ]

Oh, yeah. Certain characters TRULY take the advantage of the physical appearances. I think about the Kunoichis in Japan.

[@AndreNitroX]

I knew he couldn’t resist using the Edna mode “no capes” example

[@slothbaby2104]

If you are the strongest man alive and nothing can hurt you why not wear a cape

[@Isaac-hm6ih]

@@slothbaby2104 Maybe you don't want to harm innocent jet engines?

[@slothbaby2104]

@@Isaac-hm6ih I am pretty sure a jet engine would not be strong to pull Superman into it and if it did he would just carry it somewhere safe, but I understand not all superheroes are made equal

[@ccelik97]

@A salty Saxon yeah

[@ccelik97]

@A salty Saxon he might work covertly for the competing jet engine producers btw \s

[@ahcouplesday]

Speaking of Hulk, I like the sort of “athletic wear” he has in films like Avengers: Endgame.

[@bigguy7353]

He's actually had dozens of those types of clothing/outfits in the comics, mostly when he was the "smart" Hulk in the early-mid 90's. He had a whole differing wardrobe.

[@cuddlemuffin44]

I think you’re missing a golden opportunity to animate your head in the way South Park animates Canadians.

[@ciaphascain2807]

Nah, ItsaGundam. Totally need an avatar like ItsaGundam.

[@degredadodegradado9110]

Shad VTuber would be noice If It'sAGundam, Nuxcanor e PewDiePie can, he can too, would even use a character of his books as avatar.

[@mreverything7056]

My grandma is Canadian. I can confirm that is how she looks when she talks

[@bayoubilly5176]

@@mreverything7056 I am Canadian as well , can confirm.... Buddy! Guy!

[@RodrigoTakehara]

That wouldn’t work, he is not Canadian so this is impossible

[@peaceandloveusa6656]

I didn't have an opinion going in, but you have convinced me. Less clothes for superheroes makes perfect sense!

[@brotherbearvalter]

Also to add to the how people from olympics using less clothing, ancient Greece olympics the people who would compete, would compete naked, whit the same logic of Less clothes takes away drag. More you know

[@meganesenpai]

Actually modern skin tight suits will give you less drag than being naked.

[@Kaimax61]

@@meganesenpai more like LESS FLOP. :P

[@jungletroll3844]

@@Kaimax61 ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

[@DonVigaDeFierro]

@@Kaimax61 IIRC, ancient Greeks used these tiny ropes to tie down their Johnson to their waist, as it was considered a sign of impudity to walk with dangly bits.

[@John-cena6483]

Shad: you see, skimpy outfits and skin tight clothing are better for combat and super strengthed fights. Comic book artists: heh, boobs

[@omarabe26]

More like manga artists.

[@pian-0g445]

@@omarabe26 more like artist. That’s right, I’m grouping all of them together. Shit, now I’m in it too.

[@John-cena6483]

@Master Oak heh, below the belt bulge

[@mr.goblin6039]

Comic book artists, literally all of them: hehehehe, Nightwing's ASS.

[@B.B.Digital_Forest]

@@omarabe26 More like western comics. Classic jidai manga artists didn't draw samurai or ninja in tight, skimpy clothing. Astro Boy was a robot. Cyborg 009 all wore uniforms with scarves, not leotards. The Getter Robo team wore stylized jumpsuits.

[@ScorpDK]

The animated Shad stock-like photos make me smile. It's a whole different level of video, and I love it.

[@papermaniac]

This is the reason why i love The Incredibles since the charachter Edna Mode justifies each suit for each member of the Incredible family, The incredibles even made a joke about how useless capes are ( and may be even detrimental to a superhero)

[@charlotteinfinito3581]

yes but capes are cool

[@mikemike5017]

Mirio from MHA proved why you should have capes

[@chillax319]

@@mikemike5017 Mirio is an unique case because he can make his cape intangible at any moment with the rest of his body, so he is not at risk of having it stuck or grabbed.

[@papermaniac]

@@mikemike5017 there are exceptions of course When your cape do something useful ( like the cape of Batman that sometimes he uses it for soaring)

[@calvingreene90]

A cape can provide material to wrap a child in when you carry her out of a burning building.

[@matthewkirkhart2401]

Marvel solved the “damaged costumes” problem many years ago (the early 60s I believe) with Reed Richards’ development of “unstable molecules” and they then made everyone’s costume out of this. Never liked this idea but it solves the issue of a costume getting destroyed during super battles.

[@psilorder86]

Not everyones (Spider-man for one makes his himself). But yeah, a lot of them have unstable molecule costumes. Well, A lot of the ones with enhanced damage resistance. Hawkeye having an unstable molecule costume wouldn't help.

[@LordBraddington]

The x-men also have a similar fabric created using shi'ar tech. It is as bullet proof as kevlar and resists cutting but spandex flexible. Tho i do believe they did have the unstable molecule uniforms for a while as well.

[@brianwyters2150]

@@LordBraddington Kevlar isn't even that bulletproof. Any rifle round can go through a lot of kevlar (like 5+ vests of kevlar, front and back). That's why people wear plate carriers with steel or ceramic plates inserted.

[@LordBraddington]

@@brianwyters2150 kevlar has its limitations, true. Tho i didn't say it was made of kevlar... Just a similar level of resistance whilst retaining the flexibility of spandex. If these characters (the xmen, even FFs Sue and Johnny) were standing back taking gun fire, sure, armouring up might help even with force fields and protective powers. But the majority of Heroes, including the blasty types usually end up fighting in close quarters where the heavier armor would be less helpful, since they all seem to rely on manoeuvrability more than tanking hits.

[@Bacteriophagebs]

@@psilorder86 There was a great storyline where Spider-Man had to buy a replacement outfit at a costume shop and it got wet and shrunk.

[@auger0073]

Hulk with torn shorts -“oh wow he’s so cool and threatening! What a great artistic design! Hulk naked-“uhhh I don’t want to read this”

In the Ang Lee version the Hulk was naked in some points of the movie (I think it was during the fight with the dogs).

[@JohnnyYeTaecanUktena]

@ to be fair during those times he got so angry he outgrew his pants even some stretchy ones at times as the angrier he gets the bigger he gets. Though those movies did not really show anything other than his cheeks and the poor person in front got to see big green

@@JohnnyYeTaecanUktena it's nothing strange Betty Ross became his girlfriend ;-)

[@EIixir]

This makes so much sense when you think about it logically.

[@lukeamparo6586]

Hulk, Thing, and Namor casually say screw clothes😂. So the reasons I got from the video were: -practicality (less loose fabric means less to grab and exploit) - cost efficient/durability (less fabric to get damaged then less time and money needed to repair it) -maneuverability (tight fabric means less air resistance and more freedom of movement) I find these agreeable but the major pro for skintight outfits/less fabric is concealment. It’s easier to hide your hero suit under your clothes when you’re already wearing it. Only con is the hot summer weather with the added layers. So missed advantages: -concealment - iconic (sometimes having bright tight clothes leaves an impression to the foes the heroes defeat and their would be fans) Of courses some heroes don’t need tight clothes depending on the power. Psylocke before she got switched into an Asian body had an armored cloak whilst she was in her original body with no complex martial arts skills. Given her power and skill set it makes sense to protect the one who can knock out the entire room with a thought. Also makes sense since she wears it after getting attacked by Sabertooth. Weird tangent, aside from titillation why did the comic writers design female ninja outfits to be tight swimsuits with exposed skin? I thought maybe they were inspired by aerobic tights but then they got rid of the tights on the appendages. Examples include Psylocke and Elektra. For logical skimpy characters Emma Frost and Mileena make sense. Both use their sexuality as part of their identity and as a weapon.

[@neorenamon]

Shad: The clothes need to be durable. Silver Surfer: Say what now?

[@leafyisqueer7155]

Dr. Manhattan

[@PJDAltamirus0425]

@@leafyisqueer7155 Yeah... if you that strong you could go naked and use your superpowers to censor yourself.

[@captainmaim]

@@PJDAltamirus0425 mindwipe all the normies who saw your shame...

[@Dr_Mauser]

IIRC Silver Surfer's"Skin" is an impermeable layer Galactus encased him in.

[@captainmaim]

@@Dr_Mauser So his balls are squished against his body and he can't adjust? That's unthinkable...

[@TrayCaddyyy]

I love how the Incredibles has Edna. It answers the question of how Supers get their suits also addresses issues of capes.

[@DonVigaDeFierro]

That movie was very damn clever.

[@antonindvorak6479]

One of the few cloaks that are justified is the cloak of levitation from Dr. Strange, the second best caracter in Doctor Strange next to Doctor Strange...

[@alkorkrus5152]

Another example would be Cloak of 'Cloak and Dagger' as his is a literal manifestation of his power.

[@void2258]

Nightwatch's shapeshifting cloak is mentally controlled and a weapon.