Are Content Creators Being Truthful A Real AKAI MPC X SE Controversy!

Are Content Creators Being Truthful A Real AKAI MPC X SE Controversy! It's weird to see all these videos on a subject that has no real point thatt does't solve anything.
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[@themadlooper3272]

I think what everybody is forgetting is that maybe the newer MPCs don’t hit the way the older ones do right out of the box, BUT can you make the newer MPCs hit like the older ones with some simple mixing techniques? YES

[@SampleKingsVideos]

That's why I don't care what anyone says they need to just learn how to use the MPC.

[@ChewoBeats]

The old ones just glued everything together like hell! ITs like you wrote - just put efforts and sound design skills to the table.

[@Diddddu]

That's what i always said you can make it harder.Plus the mpc 60,mpc 3000 even the xl didn't have the effects the newer models have.I notice the change starting with the 1000 as far as the bump.

[@AJWise]

EA Ski's gripe is that Akai could use higher quality conveters and capacitors to make the new MPC's sound better.

[@unworthyServant08]

This is the summary of his argument, but that is not a realistic ask, unless, as he mentioned in a follow-up video, Akai releases a "pro" MPC, which will be much more costly (probably around 4-5k), and limited in run. The upgrades will be more related to filters, I think, adding analog filters instead of digital ones, and still using converters similar to the ones in the X, but of greater quality, similar to what you get in high-end interfaces. But will Akai truly field such an idea? R&D is not cheap, and having them invest in what is a niche ask, to satisfy a few customers who have the money to pursue alternative solutions, may not seem that attractive... If anything, it could help to open up a market for reputable technicians to make such upgrades for anyone who wants the "upgrade." It'll cost a pretty penny, but the user will get what he/she wants.

[@AJWise]

@@unworthyServant08 Black Lion Audio does upgrades to the X as well as several interfaces

[@unworthyServant08]

@@AJWise I know that. I meant that more like them will show up. After all, opportunity presents itself where a need is made known. As of now, I know only of Black Lion Audio doing upgrades for the X, but no other MPCs. What about the Live, or One, or Keys 61? There's another youtuber who posted having done something similar to his Live, but I don't know that he's commercialized the process yet. Needless to say, a good number of vendors may likely come up as a result of this.

[@marcusholder495]

I feel that EA ski is right

[@bangmateo7481]

New and higher quality wont mean better. We may need OLD school converters

[@pelvinsjamz]

Sensible words 👍 nothing can stop the development of technology. I love my mpc for what is is and the creativity it brings .

[@thelofiunicorn2144]

You are the OG Doc! Slangin VHS and DVDs back in the day. Late to the KZbin sampler critic game but the you're the most welcome addition of them all.

[@SampleKingsVideos]

Those were the days and thanks for all your support.

[@IvarConq]

Thanks Doc for commenting on this. To me you are the original and only MPC guy. I truly respect your work and gifts to the MPC users new and old. Peace my friend and thank you again 🙏🏽

[@SampleKingsVideos]

Thank You.

[@Reggi_Sample]

Great summary and input. The best on this topic I’ve seen

[@JeronimoFury]

Bro...I appreciate this video. You are one of the few that makes absolutely sense. Subscribed!

[@legitimatefrenzy]

I really appreciate this video. It's the same reason a Jupiter costs so much. At the end of the day there are a lot of tricks you can do to mangle your sound to get it how you like. if the bit rate is the sound couldn't you use a bit crusher? The new mpc has the vintage modes you can turn on as a start for sure. I myself really like the lofi button on 404sx. You are right about the prices going up

[@kevincharles7757]

My MPC 2000 XL is still like new just can't deal with the workflow therefore I spend all my time using the new MPCs just got the SE and loving it. The guys I make beats for never mention anything about sound quality after I moved from the 2000 XL to the Live II.

[@SecretEntertainmentt]

its crazy the way some people act over from what another person said and i agree with you if you want older gear then buy older gear.

[@simcax6087]

It's really just - pardon my words - shit stirring.

[@myronbrown3933]

Great video! Let's say that Akai pays attention and DOES improve the quality of the new MPCs (I say "improve" but even still, their devices seem good to me). What we can expect are even higher prices in exchange for it now because the demand is there. As you touched on, this niche is worldwide now and as the saying goes, "You can't put the genie back in the bottle". Maybe an independent out there will produce a post-mod of the MPC X SE that incorporates what the MPC Community is chomping at the bit for...

[@SampleKingsVideos]

that's what I think independent is the way for those that want it.

[@unworthyServant08]

Thanks Doc. I’ve posted and said the same thing you’ve said on multiple videos. The trend is for cleaner sound over the years. This makes it much easier to manipulate with top-of-the-line studio gear after recording, as opposed to older gear. The current conversation is one of nostalgia and attachment. Certain OG’s, for all their achievements and wealth of knowledge, want everything to be as it was “back in the day,” but that’s not the case for MANY things. And as gear changes/evolves, it also affects how music is made, new styles come in, other styles become niche, etc… I’m learning the piano no3, and reading up on the history of the instrument shows how improvements in string, escapement, action and cabinet tech have changed how composers composed, and players even evolved their playing style! It’s a synergistic thing: improvement in tech always influence users of sais tech creatively, and also vice versa, where users of the tech influence the improvement of it. Which means the musical community at large has also somewhat influenced the release of gear with newer, more transparent converters, so artists can shape it into the sound they want. Even just look at the history of microphones, and how they’ve improved over the decades to the clean mic’s we now value highly in our studios for allowing us to capture pristine recordings and edit those recordings as we please.

[@unworthyServant08]

Also, in the snippet of the Dubs Banger video you shared, I wonder if he level-matched both samples… it seems he didn’t and that’s why he says the X sounds thinner and airier. And airiness is a good thing too, a sign that the full audio spectrum was recorded faithfully, and the top end wasn’t filtered out, due to sample rate limitations. But the thinness is likely due to the samples not being level matched. In another video by CEDDMACK on his MusicTechWorks channel, he compared the 60 II and the X. The X’s bass sounds fuller, and the top end is airier, more natural. Meanwhile, the 60 sounds more compressed and darker, no doubt due to the filtering happening on both ends of the spectrum when recording samples in.

[@SampleKingsVideos]

Word!

[@SampleKingsVideos]

I think I need to be there to do the test myself but I use to use the MPC2000XL and MPC3000 in my studios in New York those 12bit chips samples are not high end and the 3000 is my favorite so I don't really care I would just buy and keep it as vintage gear.

[@Orpheus.Machine]

​@@unworthyServant08 It was indeed not level-matched as far as I can see. And simply put a compressor plugin on the MPC X after sampling : problem solved ... It's pretty obvious that the MPC 2000 waves in that video are compressed, probably because of the way that maschine samples. I prefer to have a sample with a lot of dynamics. You can compress that as much as you want or keep all the details. I prefer to decide myself what way I want to go with the signal, not the maschine doing the choice for me and not offering me any options.

[@thablackkat9905]

Facts on facts!

[@marqueshunter695]

I understand what you are saying about the circuitry being unavailable, obsolete and all that. But I think what EA-Ski is getting at is if Dave Rossum can duplicate, design and reissue the SP-1200 drum machine and sampling circuitry as closely as. possible to the OG 1200 why can't Akai do the same? If you watch EA's explanation as to why he's disappointed in the new MPC X SE is because he worked with Akai and there were promises that they didn't fulfill. That's why he's upset about the results of the SE. But Is duplicating a retro MPC really asking too much or impossible? Again If Dave Rossum can do it for the 1200, Akai can do it easily. And I'm sure it would be a huge pre-order market for it.

[@andremiller1566]

That new 1200 ain't the same. The 1200 community just aren't dickheads like the MPC community.

[@thablackkat9905]

And the Rossum SP-1200 costs $4,000 and is only sold to a niche market. If you worked at Akai, would you rather sell 20-50 MPCs for $4,000 or 50,000+ MPCs for $2,500 and under???

[@marqueshunter695]

@@thablackkat9905 Fair point. EA also stated that to work around that issue, just do pre orders for that niche market you stated. I think it would be more than 50-100 though. And do an entry level MPC for their target market. That way it works out for everyone.

[@WaynePryce]

Now that the market is saturated with cheaper made mpcs, guitar center can't even give them away. So much that the flagship trade in is 800 from 1500 brand new. Now they had to seek out Roger Linn because the product has fell off drastically. I have an X and a 2k and i dont need compressors or all thst other tweaking stuff when i use my 2k. The X and my DAW have the same sound. So basically the newer mpcs is nothing more than a cheap laptop with a controller instead of a qwerty pad. ​@thablackkat9905

[@teashea1]

I received my MPC X SE two days ago ------ What a great machine - wonderful functionality and sounds and potential for doing so much.

[@Mayimbe_]

Honestly; I love the sound of vintage gear. I would LOVE those great sounding old school parts in current MPCs. An MPC X that sounds like a 60 or a 3000? That would be the ultimate. But even without those amazing sounding parts, current MPCs are still great machines. The work flow and features are awesome and they keep getting better. The sound is neutral but it's good, clean, clear, and can be made to sound like whatever you want with other equipment like the Neve EQ that you mentioned and/or other gear and/or plugins. I have some vintage gear that I use when I'm in the mood to get into my nostalgic bag but for the most part my modern MPCs are my go to machines because of the superior workflow. If and when Akai makes a holy grail MPC - modern workflow and features with a great good quality vintage style sound - I will be the first in line to buy it but in the meanwhile, I'm very good with my X.

[@SampleKingsVideos]

I like both old and new just depends on what want at the time. Like if I do a film score and the want hop hip I would pull out the sp1200...

[@MrDebauch]

well one thing, if you don't like the converters in the current line of MPCs... you can plug in any class compliant converter you want into the thing and done. Great feature being able to do that.

[@mfbeatz]

Still watching your asr10 videos, thats gold 🙏🏼

[@BeatsBangcomtv]

Nice video!! I would much rather have the airy 24 bit 192khz chip in the X SE over the punchy 16 bit 44khz chip in the 3000. We have multiple ways to add harmonic distortion at our finger tips. A Pultec EQ does amazing things to the low-end of a bass and kick.

[@AJWise]

24/44.1

[@bangmateo7481]

Pultec? Yeah for like 4000.00 smh

[@Clipwilsonbeats]

@@bangmateo7481 you can get cloned pultecs for $700

[@BeatsBangcomtv]

@@bangmateo7481 I'm talking about plugins.

[@billblass1663]

Great video, thanks for the information....i didnt know about the TR-808 chips

[@GeneralTarik]

Still got my 3000 and a 1000. I like my Live but I LOVE my 3000. Yeah, the wife can keep the car but the 3000, HELL NAW!!! Good vid Bruh, as always.

[@SampleKingsVideos]

MPC 3000 is the ish!

[@jermaineinoue4919]

Man I was hoping you would talk about this.. Just started watching now lol

[@Mayjah_flexx]

Doc got tutorial videos on everything, I learned how to use all MPCs because of Doc.

[@SampleKingsVideos]

Thank you Bro! ...got more to come.

[@TheRealCalijokes01]

I tested the airy feeling when I hit vintage mode I didn’t believe it but now I understand what jd talking about

[@dubsbangermusic]

well said and dropping knowledge about all the mpc machines

[@SampleKingsVideos]

Thanks.

[@CDMESD]

You said it all, right here.

[@SampleKingsVideos]

Thanks

[@Pauluz_The_Web_Gnome]

I love my Akai Force! Sounds pretty Beefy!

[@rexeffect7122]

Well said Doc, I love my Mpc one.

[@SampleKingsVideos]

Thanks

[@almadixon-cider31]

That's A Great Point! MPC-2000 Is About To Go Vintage!

[@dianevrules]

MPC 2000 been vintage. Stup!d motherf*&&^&^ cant deal with floppy, 35mb limit, and actually playing melodies and keys without getting help from their MPC workstation. If you are a so called producer and cant make music with any of the first 4 MPCs, you arent a real producer.

[@APMTenants]

It’s been vintage for 7-8 years. Vintage is 20 years. OG2000 released in 1997

[@jadenhhhhh]

SampleKings DOC been around since the beginning of this whole thing back in the day on 23rd st or 14th st in NYC. I bought MPC .prgm samples floppy disk from him didn't do any studio time but his write times have change and EASki is on to something as will maybe they can put old tech back in Thanks Doc.

[@SampleKingsVideos]

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[@nickespimusic]

Not only the chip, but the 2000 & XL is 16 bit. The MPC 60 is 12 bit. When the 2000 came out, everyone was saying the same shit about the 60 hitting harder too. Vicious cycle. Put the legacy MPC 60 plug-in on your recording on voila. Almost close to the T.

[@kingech_B15]

We not in the 90s no more guys. Native Instrument and AKAI is doing the right thing.

[@thablackkat9905]

Yes indeed

[@SampleKingsVideos]

Word, time keeps on moving..

[@marcusx3605]

They aren’t but cool

[@johnmax5652]

LOVE IS EVERYWHERE!!!

[@MorningView]

The second sample just looks more dynamic. More to work with in post production. The XL one looks blown out. Adding is easy, taking away is difficult. Just like video.

[@marcusholder495]

May Yahweh bless you brother you are a king

[@SampleKingsVideos]

And you too bro..

[@FLAVMEDIA]

Respect your PASSION:))

[@SampleKingsVideos]

Thank you.

[@JNo-sk5mz]

Like Akai does for everything else, they should add an old school signal path, and charge for it as an add-on. Then we'll see how many consumers truly are willing to pay for it. I would. But. My 2000, 2500 even MPC60, I would never go back to because of the workflow. Sitting for hours tracking individual external synthesizer modules using MIDI time code or SMPTE Was the primary reason I took an unfortunate detour into composing in DAWs. I love the updated MPCs as they retain the workflow of the original MPC software, but add the benefit of DAW features like exporting, soft synthesizers, etc etc.

[@bapesta215]

This guy is a legend I learned a lot on the mpc 4k DVD!

[@SampleKingsVideos]

Thanks for the support you know how I do learn everything then teach.

[@bapesta215]

@SampleKings thinking about about getting the 3k again should I? That one was missing off your list

[@APMTenants]

The MPC3000 is 16 bit. The 2000 and XL use the same brown burr converters as the 3000, which were and still are very highly regarded. DACs may have gotten cheaper since then, but I wouldn’t necessarily say they have gotten better. There have been great sounding converters since the late 70s, for those who could afford them. I wouldn’t be surprised if the converter chips in an X cost mere pennies, where those in the 3000 would have cost a few dollars You will still be able to fix a 2000xl long after you cannot fix an MPC X. People can make new chips, if there is a dedicated user base. Look at the Juno 106, you can buy third party replacement DCO chips for them right now

[@LMaxx5]

?Doc....Are there any sounds anywhere I can purchase for my MPCOne that will work without using a computer?

[@SampleKingsVideos]

Yes which mpc?

[@paulopalacin3337]

well said!

[@jermaineinoue4919]

Yo Doc so there isn't a Plugin that can give you that sound ? There's the RX950, SP950 and I think I saw on the MPC software some kind of a MPC3000 plugin but I have haven't really messed with it but if its got that, I may start using it. Thanks and great video.

[@unworthyServant08]

The cheapest way would be to record to cassette tape, honestly... record to tape, with appropriate EQ/filtering, and overdrive it slightly to get a slight flavor of that analog tape saturation, and you should have something approximate to it.

[@jermaineinoue4919]

@@unworthyServant08 so you would say no tape plugins has the mojo ? lol

[@unworthyServant08]

@@jermaineinoue4919 😆. I've been in standalone mode that my first suggestion was based on how I would solve that issue. But there are good emulations for tape plugins/vsts. I'm sure you could find one that would fit the need.

[@jermaineinoue4919]

@Guy-Francis Kono I just finished running some drums through it. I opened the MPC O.S up in Ableton . I routed the outputs of separate drum sounds to its own separate track in Ableton . Went to the vintage mode to turn it on the entire mix, and it only works for the master out, lol . I'll try again later, but I primarily work out of ableton after selling my MPC5000 I'm not so sure I'm hearing awesomeness just yet on the vintage mode Got some decent tape plugins, though . I guess you already know what's up with vintage mode .

[@edwinaponte2166]

I have a mpc60 and the floppy drive doesn’t read my disk is there a place I can get it fixed?

[@SampleKingsVideos]

Look in Akai website for repair the have a list of places.

[@elijshahebert9418]

How do I use the mpc 2000xl to go on a computer so I can release my music?

[@SampleKingsVideos]

You'll to output a file from the MPC to use in a software and master it. If you need any help I do Zoom Lessons on All MPC’s & MPC2.0 software, all Maschine’s Hardware & Software, Roland SP 404, SP 555, SP404 MK2, Emu SP1200, All AKAI hardware, ASR10, Pro Tools, Ableton Live, Logic Pro, Reason, & Final Cut Pro We take CASH APP or PayPal $15/ Hr. Use this link www.skrecordingschool.com/AllNewSchool/cart/index/product/id/147/c/ You can call 718-715-4652 or email: [e-mail] to pick a time and what you want to learn, Then we’ll book the lessons time and date. Once booked you’ll see your appointment in the calendar on samplekings.com

[@AMLitha]

Word!

[@jamesrider773]

Would it be possible for someone to use the new MPC’s to sample the older ones that have better sounds, and create sample packs out of them?

[@SampleKingsVideos]

That would work if you want that older MPC sound

[@jamesrider773]

@@SampleKingsVideos how come no one’s made that part of the conversation that’s been going on lately? I’ve even seen several videos on this topic where they have both new and old systems in the background.

[@marcusholder495]

Much love and peace to E A ski

[@SampleKingsVideos]

They should just leave him alone.

[@marcusholder495]

@@SampleKingsVideos thank you

[@dat1beats]

I bet if you throw the vulf compressor or decimort 2 on the xl, you can match the punch of the 3000.

[@fredicagoillanoise1309]

I'm #MPCNation and I've owned a 2000XL and now have a 1000 and an MPC One. Those two are good enough for me. I really don't need an X or an XSE.

[@SampleKingsVideos]

Nice.

[@zanza_the_rewolverine]

True !!!

[@thegroove2000]

Man you know your MPCs. I still have your MPC 2000 tut on CD.

[@SampleKingsVideos]

thanks for the support and, yes, I know them all like the back of my hands.

[@f.nf.n7689]

I still got my mpc60 tutural Dvd❤😂

[@orientmob]

🔥🔥🔥E-A-SKI🔥🔥🔥

[@Ast3rixMusic]

I'm tired of this topic. I see why people who have high technical knowledge don't jump into these discussions. There's so much negative in the MPC community and people who thrive on that kind of energy. There is a desperate need for people to learn how to mix so that they can create the sounds they are after. The old tech of those era's is long gone and no one is going to bring it back. It's just not financially viable for Akai to try to downgrade the components in a machine that they have invested lots of money into r & d already. I agree not everybody that uses the mpc is into lofi hip hop so getting a clean and clear sound is more important. It would be the equivalent of the Chicago Bulls asking Michael Jordan to comeback as their starter, that is just not going to happen. There are a million ways to dirty up your sound and yes dirty is the truth. The things I hear when I listen to all of these examples is added noise on top of the sound that is being played. The signal to noise ratio is terrible in those old 16bit machines. There was more noise from the circuits that affect the transients of sounds that have an impact. I am a force user and I love the 32bit adc and dac converters it's true digital meaning what I am putting into it is what I am getting back without the extra noise from the circuits. If I want that punch I add that in post it's just too easy to do in the mix. I would say to Akai please fix the sound of the emulations that you provide with the current machines to make them have more of the noise of those old circuits and provide more machine models. They also need to do a video showing how to use the emulations that is something they never talk about. Get Andy Mac to do a old school hop hop/lofi beat session showing how to downgrade you machine using emulations and bit reduction. I think if they fixed their models that would resolve all of these complaints about sound quality. The ability to emulate circuits has advanced greatly over the years. I don't see anyone doing any comparison tests using the included emulations that were provided in the current machines software pack. Page 82 and 83 in the manual there is a vintage mode and you can change the bit depth from 24 to 16 which would affect all recorded audio.

[@SampleKingsVideos]

Those complaints are just a small group. There are a lot of people who have no idea and one guys problem is a others prefect solution.

[@almadixon-cider31]

5:14 This Is Like When They Say the Name Of The Movie In The Movie!

[@marcthompson1467]

Facts...VHS Versions of the tapes

[@SampleKingsVideos]

Word the beginning....

[@jaimerodriguez1550]

I just saw a sample compariosn with the Roland Verselab vs the Akai MPC one and honestly, the MPC one sounds flat and it's sound does not resonate compared to the Verselab. If I am going to do a lot of extra work just to make everything that comes out the MPC One to sound better, which is what the machine should be doing out the gate, then im just not gonna get it and choose an alternative.

[@EricRabb]

Why not the MPC 4000?

[@EASki]

I grew up on you bro you’re dope. Reach out to me.

[@danemusic5242]

i have the mpc live and the 3000 it seems people dont have any thing to compare to which is good for akai to make junk and get away with it and bad for musicians that want better sound.

[@momoamzo1050]

True

[@eternity..]

BY GOD'S GRACE, SAFETY & SECURITY. I'D LIKE TO THANK AND BLESS (AVE MCREE & E-A SKI), FOR THIS DEBATE. BECAUSE WE ARE BEING INTRODUCED TO PEOPLE, WITH AN ABUNDANCE OF MUSIC & TECHNOLOGICAL KNOWLEDGE. THAT OTHERWISE, I WOULD HAVE NEVER EVER SEEN, ON MY KZbin FEED. SO, TRUTHFULLY! I FEEL THAT THIS ENTIRE ISSUE WITH THE (AKAI MPC) WAS A BLESSING IN DISGUISE. SALUTE, TO ALL YOU MUSIC PRODUCERS, AND CONTENT CREATORS. KEEP RISING MIGHTY KINGS.

[@SampleKingsVideos]

Right, most don't know about the old days.

[@espelizarov]

Thanx)

[@Moneytalks8402]

Spoken like a true musician

[@jonathansoko1085]

Are* is the right word dude.

[@WaynePryce]

EASki got grammy's, my guy...His beef yes is the convertor, but also the fact that akai is charging top dollar for something that has the sound quality of the less pricey units. Akai is selling a workflow not a sound, compared to the legacy machines..Hes right

[@SampleKingsVideos]

OK

[@WaynePryce]

​@@SampleKingsVideosI still feel I bought a tablet/laptop connected to a controller instead of a qwerty pad. The sound is no different from studio one, where I gotta use compression to get bottom on my kicks. I say all this respectfully my guy, I really regret purchasing the X. Should have put the money towards an x

[@megahurtz2499]

This sonic quality argument can be made about MOST audio equipment. Like the difference between having tubes in your amplifier vs the newer amps with circuit boards, There is much more color to the sound with the old school tube amps. These devices are no different from that as they evolve. Content creators should not be beefing over trivial nonsense like this

[@julesgaye2659]

y all should publish every months the request youre making to akai in order to better the product but then again do you guys do that ?or you just send them big "thank u !" ? like do you ask akai if we can have 2 sequences of different time signatures in the same project ? do you ? why not ?

[@SampleKingsVideos]

I never ask AKAI for anything I just want it to be a good MPC I have Logic studio pro, Pro Tools, Ableton, and Reason, I do everything else on them if I need to.

[@julesgaye2659]

@@SampleKingsVideos but why tough ? you have a voice ! why not help the consumer with no voice ? a little video regrouping the missing features maybe ? not just you but why does it seem that the "content creators" are scared to point out obvious messed up things. i mean in 2023 on the X, if i load up a drum loop that is starting with the snare, there is no way to move the starting point of the loop to the kick without resampling the playing loop and recutting.. ? something as simple as moving the starting point inside of a loop! also you really don t care that one project can t hold 2 seq of diferent time signature ? basic legacy mpc stuff...there s a few thing like that "content creators" will NEVER highlight; Maybe they signed something idk

[@ONEHENDRIX]

It's not the 12-bit chip, my man. If anything the higher the chip bit, the better. The issue is the circuit board. Analog Circuit boards are going to always give you warmer and punchier sounds than the new digital circuit board, because sound is being produced or passthru big transistors, capacitors, resistors, etc. On digital circuit boards, sound is being produced or passthru small gated-chips. So don't blame Akai, blame progress. If Akai gave us what we want you'd be looking at a $3999 machine.

[@SampleKingsVideos]

I'm not blaming AKAI I'm saying the old gear is what E A Ski is comparing it to and it doesn't matter today's producers don't care and the older producer will buy older MPC's.

[@Crookedletta601]

It’s “ E-A-Ski “ Not A-E-Ski, but love your videos 💯💯💯💯💯🙏🏾🦾

[@SampleKingsVideos]

Sorry no edits just had to say something..

[@Y4UNOTME]

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[@SixteenVoice]

Great point about BTS and Blackpink. EA Ski has a point but he needs to let it go. He doesn't have the pull he thinks he has over a company like Akai. He knows Dave and Roger and rich guys like Birdman and Dre. He needs to come up with his own alternate if it bothers him that much and pull on those resources.

[@EASki]

Interesting

[@tellyquin]

would i prefer a marvelous sonic mpc with the modern workflow, speed and file management Yes most definitely I like the source to be gorgeous sounding and have a grooving clock BTW i wouldn’t care who build and develop the masterpiece and if it’s available i would get it for a premium

[@TheOwlHead]

Its simply lo fi vs hi fi. Classic cars vs modern. Whats better? Depends.

[@SampleKingsVideos]

Right that's Bro.

[@beatz04]

Short answer to the headline question: If they're sponsored, get gear for free or get paid, they're biased, period. Anything else would deny the existence of human things like conflict of interest etc and trying to re-invent the wheel of logic, which would be ridiculous.

[@TheLo31]

Are,,,

[@thegroove2000]

The community should focus on making better beats.

[@unworthyServant08]

Facts. This is truly the real answer to this whole discussion. We can have requests for better sound, better workflow, better everything, and all that matters, for sure. But in the long run, if Q-Tip could make a dope beat using the pause-tape technique, we certainly should all be able to make amazing beats by now with the facilities we have. We're essentially spoiled, compared to back in the day.

[@SixteenVoice]

Agree. The converter thing is becoming a distraction.

[@Dewane1511]

Sound is apart of making great beats.

[@LawrinMaxwellsmpc500]

I made beats battling mpc 60 and mpc 3000 users. I got smack talk for using the MPC 500. The beat gear snobs always hated the mpc 500 saying essentially the same thing these dudes are saying about the current MPC generation. Now everyone talks about the 500 like it has potential. Why are people suddenly attracted to the mpc 500 and it's aesthetic? Back then everyone was sounding like ea ski. Old school dudes talking smack about products and the producers who use said equipment/product. This gear argument is coming from dudes who are musically mediocre. Who cares what mpc is being used of everyone still sounds the same. Even so called real hip hop is pretty generic nowadays IMO. Even guys who still use older MPC models are making mediocre music with those over expensive pieces of equipment. Gear snobs always mess up the art form.

[@robertprince2651]

I respect your stance in this so-called "beef." Ultimately we're all producers who enjoy the art of the process. Is there a way to contact you via IG or FB?

[@bornshamir7792]

As consumers and of a specific trade you have a right to speak on discrepancies. Same of you got big mac with some mayo on it. You’d see Armageddon! LOL

[@nine27]

Technology changes yes, but it does not mean the AUDIO QUALITY SHOULD SUFFER!!! If that was true than companies like RME and Lynx and Dangerous and Burl for example would not have the highest level Converters. So honestly thats bs. Is it harder to get chipsets sure but Akai is able they just choose not to cause it would cut into their profit margins

[@SampleKingsVideos]

In the new world money trumps quality companies want profit and new customers just pay the price.

[@nine27]

⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠@@SampleKingsVideos unfortunately, in the current world yes, that is true but people are waking up and many are demanding quality over quantity again. There’s only so long this can last. It’s clearly affected music on a whole in terms of the sonics. And thankfully we do also have legends like E-A-Ski who are speaking up. Changes will occur. It’s inevitable. Analog is returning full fledged on many levels, not that it really ever left but the demand for hybrid systems is growing extremely prominent and you can see physical formats are making their way back so.. we gona have to wait and see how it all really plays out.

[@QR_Code]

i'm actually kind of surprised ave mcree didnt know who ea ski was 🤷🏿‍♂ but anyways i get what ski was saying about spending $2500 dollars on the flagship product and not getting the same kind of sound etc. but also nowadays noone is tracking out beats a track at a time... you can export the wav files immediately and process and mix the wavs to sound however you want if you are skilled and know what you're doing. akai is a far different company from what it was in the late 80s and 90s on up and like most companies they will repackage the same product 100 different ways and sell it as long as they know ppl will buy it. akai NEVER intended on puting any development into the output stage of these devices thats why they included a "vintage" mode 😉type emulation into the software because they knew ppl might be looking for the sound similar* to classic-model mpc's. i looked at this SE just like when the 2500 came out with the SE 🤷🏿‍♂ same model with a few upgrades. its marketing...its just like iphones, they make one product and repackage it many times with minor changes and get another $1000 from humans EVERYtime. it is what it is. akai is supposed tho be coming with some mini mpc, thats what im curious about..they need something stripped down and even more "basic" than the entry level One but with features the One doesnt have to go toe-to-toe with the sp404. again that marketing and how you sell ALL your product line.

[@unworthyServant08]

On the topic of the mini-mpc: One way they can do that is by offering a smaller screen than the one on the One, and reducing the pad size, and number of buttons as well. At that point, we can call that version the MPC 500 MKII. Haha!

[@dubmaverick69]

X is $2500, we are in 2023, and we have access to incredible technology, therefore we can make chips that give us that thump, Dave Rossum is doing it with the SP -1200, Sequential, look at how many great converters are out there, look at what RME is giving us with incredible pricing, so this is on Akai, nothing should sound that "Airy" and the BIG problem is that when you use all 8 outs you got a wall of "Air" and converters 3-8 are inferior in their reproduction of the signal this is well know fact that is why Akai with class compliant USB. This is why they put the Brown Burr converter in the X SE (not the best one they could have chosen). This is not about what you can do in the studio, it would be wast of precious studio time, Eqing 8 channels when you know how things are suppose to sound. Yeah you can only use output 1-2 and just rack from there, then what is the point of putting 3-8 outputs, might as just make it 2 output and add and ADAT(they own Alesis) in and out and let people connect to whatever converter they want. Inmusic just ruins everything they touch, they just bought Moog Music, give it six months. The company should be broken up, sampling is back because people realize in that technology the paint brush is your imagination. Love the Akai workflow amazing, but God they need help. InMusic owns, Alesis, Rane, Dennon, Stanton, Marantz etc, so they have the tool box. #converters

[@SampleKingsVideos]

They won't add new converters I just keep my old MPC.

[@rufusjackson4836]

@SampleKings 2 Question's I have a MPC X but not SE should I sell it to get the SE just in case Akai does some new update im future that will only work for the SE? 2 Should I just keep my regular X and get the Black Lion mod? By the way how is the Black Lion mod?

[@thundersnow819]

Im supposed to be self learning dante rn haha

[@SampleKingsVideos]

Thundersnow is back!

[@flossondatrack8861]

All I can say is wow. "THIS DUDE EA SKI" Doc, that's a major disrespect to someone who has put so much hard work into this industry.

[@SampleKingsVideos]

The two dudes had a problem over something that going to change.

[@kimini1811]

His name is E.A.SKI. Look him up

[@fooyong]

"It's weird to see all these videos on a subject that has no real point thatt does't solve anything." ....no it's weird to see this video that really doesn't say anything. I have an MPC2000 & 2000XL , MPC XR20, and a MPC Live 2 and I bought an X but returned it. The iMPC app hits harder than the new units that Akai is currently making. I hate this for Akai, but karma is a B and they shouldn't have stopped paying Roger Linn royalties.

[@SampleKingsVideos]

The point to most of these guys is to go back to the old ways which ain’t gonna happen.

[@BDKabrini]

All I seem was Talented Blk Men FIGHTING and Tearing each other Down for ISH they don't even own. (Again) Smh. I grew up in the Projects All WE did was fight/bang each other for "Blocks or Buildings" And it always ends up with SOMEONE ELSE owning the block or buildings once WE DESTROY OURSELVES. Smh This is why I didn't BUY A MPC I dig it but... THE CULTURE too Dramatic Ya should just make music TOGETHER and share the Love and EXPERIENCE It's shouldn't matter IF the Teacher pays for books or text they use to teach...

[@raykane2063]

Akai needs to REISSUE the MPC3000LE one more time.

[@SampleKingsVideos]

It would sell out so fast they'd have to make a lot of them.

[@culturemax234]

Easki is correct im about to sell my mpc one and get a 2000xl instead

[@SampleKingsVideos]

That's why you see Kanye us an MPC2000XL and not the latest and greatest, DR.DRE MPC3000, the list goes on and on....

[@tunesmith3438]

The MPC's that we love the sound of were engineered in Japan . Im not sure where it happens today but i bet its not Japan .

[@futureworldmachines4407]

Akai Professional is now owned by inMusic, they own about 20 other brands including Alesis and Denon. They're based in the United States, I think their philosophy is to make as much money as possible!

[@SampleKingsVideos]

Not sure but still make it in Taiwan. Don't know who are the designers.

[@TCordy]

I don't care how popular they are, technology is beginning to have to many flaws,to entrust these new mpc's to make professional music...

[@edasoundgod871]

Vst plugins can warm any signal

[@michaeltrenier]

Disagree. Outboard circuits and machinery are far better than vsts. Vsts could fake it but not close to the real thing.

[@edasoundgod871]

@Michael Trenier But do you agree that their are software solutions to warming a signal?

[@michaeltrenier]

@@edasoundgod871 yep! I love Studio One. Has a plug in named Fat Channel. A few others. They help a TON especially with MPC sounds. But overall man that warmth from outboard cannot be duplicated.

[@edasoundgod871]

@Michael Trenier I agree with you too...I was just saying that there are vst solutions to warming a signal so newbies with these next generation MPCs won't feel discouraged

[@michaeltrenier]

@@edasoundgod871 agreed.

[@clrs6576]

i feel what ea ski saying, im pretty mad i aint get one too lol

[@teashea1]

Interesting video ----- the whole controversy is pretty funny. The MPC X SE is very successful - It has sold out at all of the major resellers like Sweetwater, Zzounds, Musician's Friend, Guitar Center etc etc and will not be back in stock until August. So Akai does not really care about all those who are fussing about it. Akai is a business and they are very successful with the SE. Props to Akai. The fussers can stay in their basements and whine.

[@bournedevinesupreme]

I literally just check now and it's not sold out on any of those stores...

[@teashea1]

@@bournedevinesupreme They are all sold out in each one of the stores. Backorder - waitlist only.

[@anthonyb.2983]

@@teashea1 It’s sold out because it’s a limited edition… for now. Has nothing to do with demand.

[@teashea1]

@@anthonyb.2983 It is sold out because it sold a lot of units. It is very successful, despite the whiners. BTW, the MPC X is being discontinued. The MPC X SE is the replacement. That is why the MPC X sale price is being discounted so heavily. The MPC X SE next shipment to the US is scheduled for August.

[@anthonyb.2983]

@@teashea1 That's cope. Zzounds says get it by May 26th.

[@HowYouMove]

I used the MPC 2000 & the 3000 at a studio & I had just brought a brand new MPC Gold from Guitar Center for $629 with free shipping & I agree with EA-Ski & dubsbanger that the old MPC’s sound much better so in my opinion the MPC-X SE is a waste of money not to mention that Mobb Deep used the MPC 60 on their classic song Shook Ones Part II

[@LawrinMaxwellsmpc500]

It's outdated sounding so why are people mad at Akai for keeping up with current music styles? If you're stuck in the 90s use old gear, but to complain to the point that it gets annoying is what I see happening. Mpc 60/3000 is OUTDATED..

[@Clipwilsonbeats]

And guess what havoc uses a maschine these days he’s doesn’t even use the mpc anymore and shook one’s was 30 years ago bro y’all have to move on it ain’t the 90s anymore

[@JayInTheLab1989]

Why can’t akai just make a new mpc 3000 that got the same sound but upgrade the unit, bigger screen and WiFi etc and all the good things off the modern day mpcs ? It would be a task but surely they could achieve it, it might be costly but a lot of people would buy it. It would also shut everybody up 😂

[@SampleKingsVideos]

The majority of people don’t want it. It was already done They are going to go backwards if people want to MPC 3000 you can buy one used they’re not gonna change the converters most of the hip-hop guys like that nice 3000 sound but for a chai that’s old-school been there done that it’s all about the new customer.

[@JayInTheLab1989]

@@SampleKingsVideos yeh true it’s a lot of work for Akai to a small number of people and probably doesn’t look like a good investment. Would be cold to see them remake those old models one day and try and make a hybrid version, but I don’t think Il ever see the day haha Just found your channel by the way, I’ve subbed and going to watch some tutorials for the live 2, it’s arriving soon.

[@JayInTheLab1989]

@@SampleKingsVideos I would love an mpc 3000, bit out of my price range at the moment though.

[@SampleKingsVideos]

@@JayInTheLab1989 hey thanks for subscribing. Yeah those days are over but the MPC live two is great for the modern era of NPC’s. My video should help you a whole lot and thanks again.

[@JayInTheLab1989]

@@SampleKingsVideos thanks il get stuck into later.

[@bangmateo7481]

The MPC X will be worth 5-10k in 10 years? I doubt it Doc.

[@SampleKingsVideos]

I don't think so but I'm just saying the MPC60, 3000, 2000, 2500 may all raise in value.

[@bangmateo7481]

@@SampleKingsVideos The 60 is already worth like 3k and the 3000 between 4k-6k. Unless you go to Armens who will charge you 10k plus an arm. Lol

[@miscmisc1023]

just bypass the converters!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! like i dont see what everybody is making noise about............. i can record through my apollo or any outboard gear and sample in chop sequence etc.... when i'm ready to track out just reroute the outputs to its destination like yall overthinking alot..... my eps 16 my asr 10 my mpc 2000 xl is really all i need yall go spend almost 3 racks on same shit

[@SampleKingsVideos]

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[@obscuresoundz]

this dude said buy the older machines cos they not making those chips anymore; yet Rossom made a new SP1200 with those old chips, as did Isla 2400, so does this dude know what he talking about?

[@SampleKingsVideos]

Look at the cost of that SP1200, they will stop in the future I'm looking ahead. Prices will rise.

[@davidscott2095]

​@@SampleKingsVideos Facts!

[@kevincharles7757]

Really? SMFH

[@unworthyServant08]

I don't have experience with the old or new SP12 devices. Do the new ones (Rossum, Isal) sound exactly like the old ones? Also, I noticed the Rossum costs 1.5x more than any of the current MPCs, barre the X SE, and even then, it costs $1400 more than that. As for the chip matter, is it possible he's sourcing the chips from old SP1200s that are no longer functioning? Or does he have an arrangement with a manufacturer to make chips to this particular spec? How big is the batch order? Is this what is driving the cost up so high? Is this meant to be a niche release? What about the 35th anniversary edition they sell at $7,000? Do those use the same set of chips? I have tons of questions around this... I remember writing on another video from another channel on the same topic, saying that the sound of the older samplers are specialized sounds at this point, which users would have to pay top dollar to get. As it is in the world of sales nowadays, vintage means bigger price tag. I see the price of the MPC3000 on Reverb, and it often exceeds the price of the MPC X, for devices that are over 20 years old and no longer being made! There are no manufacturers making replacement parts for these anymore, and so you'd have to cannibalize another 3000 to make sure yours remains in order over the years. Akai, like any other company, has to consider the bottom line, and there comes a point in a company's size, where they consider options that will keep them in business, and at the same or greater rate of business. They have to cater to users of all kinds, across continents, performing different genres. Of course they'd go for cleaner and more commonplace converters. This doesn't mean they're cheap. But because they order in bulk to manufacture in bulk, they go with what is cost-effective while maintaining a certain level of quality, and that translates to affordability for all the beatmakers you see today, and those still to come. On the other hand, Rossum will likely not be able to continue selling these SP1200's at the current cost for very long, especially if they start getting traded on eBay or Reverb and the like.

[@LawrinMaxwellsmpc500]

​@@unworthyServant08 spot on analysis. People need to think about the business strategies that Akai has to consider when releasing products. It's about profit first and people wanna get at Akai like they not a corporation first. Lol

[@macmoll]

Some guy E-A Ski? Lmao! Um ok. E-A Ski just ain’t “some guy”.

[@SampleKingsVideos]

Right just causing more problems LMAO.....

[@larrymyers5989]

Lol. Called E A SKI some guy. Naw homie. Do your research. E A ski is official. He got Grammys under his belt. Plus he worked with akai for years. He has a relationship with Andy. He just feels like the sound is not as warm as the MPC are known for. You should check out the convo that E A SKI had with sight.

[@SampleKingsVideos]

I never heard of him thanks.

[@larrymyers5989]

@@SampleKingsVideos Have you heard of Ice-T, Spice-1, Jayo Felony, Too $hort, Ice Cube, Master P, Nate Dogg, WC, or Dr. Dre? Those are all artist he produced or worked with.

[@larrymyers5989]

@@SampleKingsVideos Also Menace to Society soundtrack.

[@sir0623]

First off NOTHING compares to MPC 2000.... I have them all and the 2000 will rip your head off... It was aggressive! The 4k didn't even sound like the 2k..... I think Akai wanted to make more 96k machines... The 2k is THE MOST AGGRESSIVE! NOT EVEN THE SP12000 CAN GET AS AGGRESSIVE AS THE 2K

[@SampleKingsVideos]

I hear you bro.