Skinny People are OPPRESSING Fat People! (Oh No...)

[@laurieanthony1556]

As an autistic disabled person, calling my weight loss eugenics is extremely insulting to me when I know that it would be the least concerning part of me to eugenicists ...

[@awetistic5295]

Same, totally. I'm autistic, mentally ill, disabled and queer. If I had been born some decades earlier in the same country, I would have been either locked away in an institution, sterilized or simply killed.

[@MosDaft]

Same. Jewish, autistic, and redheaded. Three things that I have been treated horribly for, marginalized because of, and made me a target to tease, bully and abuse, not due to any choices of my own.

[@Pugetwitch]

Hello my fellow auties

[@WileyCylas]

Yeah. Have a few developmental, learning & physical disabilities myself. Grew up thinking it was something I had to hide/ignore at all costs or risk losing EVERYTHING, including the love of my family bcs such things were “unlovable.” Note that all of my relatives either grew up in the era of eugenics or at the tail end of it, so a lotta em literally did view it as a life or death ordeal. Eventually got burnt out in my mid teens from spending so much of my energy trying to conceal things that were larger than myself.

[@InTheNameOfLife1]

Exactly. There are entire organizations actually committed to “getting rid of autism and Down syndrome” without even knowing the root a causes to considering that their narrative is quite literally eugenics. Awful.

[@Sageddegas]

Few things annoy me as much as people wholly and completely not understanding what eugenics is but throwing it out flippantly as a buzz word… it happens online Constantly

[@ThymeofGhost]

Especially lately. As an autistic person if I hear one more time that some recent events (I think we all know what I mean) is eugenics I’m gonna lose it.

[@soccerchick1]

Thank you hf this.

[@soccerchick1]

Like they’re are medical conditions that can cause you to be overweight like diabetes for example and lots of medications can cause weight changes and that would be eugenics but without the medical/disability stuff you’re just being a judgmental asshole lmao no fancy word for it, maybe fatphobic but that’s a stretch since it can go both ways lol. Coming from someone with a registered disability that causes weight fluctuations in both directions.

[@vickyoli]

YESSS! when they start with that non-sense I tell them: then your preferences on who you date is eugenics too

[@kozykenma8004]

So many in the fat acceptance community exclude thinner/more socially acceptable bodies because “the movement is for disabled bodies and people of color,” but the idea of wanting to reduce obesity being eugenics is so insulting to the history of the disabled community.

[@ChronicallyMichelle1995]

I’m a thin disabled women, thin caused by my disability, I have a feeding tube due to it. I’m basically same issues opposite side, down to people commenting on my body, clothing not fitting, at one point as an adult I was in hospital for “failure to thrive” if I died it would have been blamed on my weight. I 100% believe in fat phobia in the medical setting I understand that but I have very similar issues just opposite

[@soccerchick1]

@@ChronicallyMichelle1995 feel thisssss

[@stephanierose3954]

It’s always the non disabled, straight white women who are fat that love to exclude thin people out of a movement they claim was started by queer, disabled women of color, like there are thin people that fit into that category than a lot of them do…

[@awetistic5295]

Medical gaslighting is a huge issue and I know that it happens to overweight people a lot, but they are not the only ones. People of color and women in general are more likely not to be taken seriously by doctors, so are people with rare diseases (because doctors hate to admit they simply don't know anything about your condition), mental illnesses (just wait for them to blame every single physical symptom on it) or other invisible disabilities (like chronic pain - you can't prove how bad it is). This is an overall issue with many causes, for example the fact that doctors have too little time to spend on the individual patient. Blaming it just on fatphobia is absurd.

[@mdlizzy]

Absolutely! I’m super fat and I knew I had a blood clot in my leg. The symptoms were all there. I went to the doctor and she absolutely refused to check to see if it was a blood clot. Did an X-ray and found nothing wrong. Said it was probably gout- didn’t even do the test for gout. Several days later I was in severe pain. My husband called the clinic emergency line and she was the one on call. She tried to convince my husband there was no way it was a blood clot and there was no need for further medical treatment. We drove an hour and a half to the emergency room. I told them exactly what I told the doctor in my town. They immediately tested for a blood clot and got a positive result. As soon as I started the treatment the pain was gone. I could have died!! Was it because I’m super fat? Was it because I’m a middle aged woman? Was it because of the arrogance of that particular person? Probably all of them. Because the ER took my symptoms seriously when she didn’t.

[@brie93468]

Thank you! Well said

[@WileyCylas]

Lord! I feel this! Terrified of the “hypochondriac” label so have internalized everything. Called lazy. Attention seeker. Unmotivated. The r word. Stupid. Uncaring. Psych even misdiagnosed me w/anxiety & blamed everything on that. Turns out I do have multiple phys developmental & learning disabilities. Not anxiety. (Tho anxiety disorders r equally as valid!)Then we have the FA paired with the fakers of social media trampling all over us

[@mothrasdaughter]

Yep. I had to put in the work researching and seeking out specialists to get diagnoses and help simply because my GP refused to acknowledge anything because I’m going, only to be proven wrong with everything.

[@lavenderlemonade4322]

@@mdlizzy I'm so glad you are okay, that must've been so awful

[@Sammvoy]

I don’t think even necessarily being “obese” is an issue. I think the problem comes when people are obese by hundreds of lbs and want to pretend that had the same impact on your health as being 20-30lbs overweight.

[@mlamarana]

Yep!!

[@WileyCylas]

Eating disorders sometimes warp reality....

[@sierahfredrickson9984]

Exactly I’m like 30-40 lbs over weight and considered obese. but I can still be on my feet all day without a break and can still sprint stairs for 30 minutes. when someone who is hundreds of pounds over weight definitely can’t do that.

[@Natalie_11188]

Yes I agree there’s a huge medical difference and lifestyle impact between having a BMI of 31, and a BMI of 51 or 61. But I’ve noticed in these types of conversations when people say “obese” they are talking about Class III obesity (BMI over 40)

[@amypattie7004]

@@sierahfredrickson9984 my knees hurt just reading that. Wow, go you!!!!

[@MKSpeakz]

As a biracial, bisexual, overweight woman, im offended by these white women saying what is and what isn’t oppressive. Being fat is something MOST people can change. I can’t change being bi or multiracial but I can change my fatness. And the part about eugenics… excuse me?? These people just get worse and worse…

[@soccerchick1]

There’s a difference between being overweight due to a disability/medical condition/medication and just being overweight. The first one is eugenics and the second is just being an asshole. Some people can control their weight and others can’t. But this whole video is a fucking mess and pushing stereotypes and using big buzz words for clicks. No one understands what eugenics actually is anymore.

[@nastjaangelova3671]

This stuff only exists in the US, I'm really curious as to why that is

[@soccerchick1]

@@nastjaangelova3671 um Canada is a country Lmaooo smh. We get so my bs from the states up here and it’s never recognized. So many people just drink the koolaid and get influenced by American news, politics, social media. I truly don’t get it and I live 2 hours from the border but yeah. Don’t forget about the HUGEEEE ass country above the states please that get stuck with all their problems aswell!

[@Goofybear253]

@@nastjaangelova3671 cuz Americans are privileged little brats my opinion being fat is a privilege cause the have enough money to eat everyday to be eat to be fat while other people around the world and even in America can't even afford to eat everyday it's honestly asinine how entitled these fat people are

[@MP-il8ys]

The eugenics argument was strange. Weight is more like hair length than skin color. Anyone can become obese, just like anyone can get a haircut. Only allowing long-haired (or thin) people to reproduce won’t change that.

[@soccerchick1]

This person does not understand what eugenics is.

[@duskonanyavarld1786]

@@soccerchick1 Eugenics is the human version of dog breeding. It's about forced sterilisation. How is weight loss eugenic when it's nothing about changing a populations DNA?

[@janejones7638]

There might be a handful of people per million who have no personal responsibility for their obesity. I remember seeing a Mystery Diagnosis (don't remember what he had though) where the patient was always so hungry that he'd eat out of a trash can if he didn't have money to buy enough snacks (he was a teenager).

[@janejones7638]

@@soccerchick1 I don't believe that cancel culture is a good thing. But if someone deserves to be cancelled that woman is it. Has the woman not heard of the Nazi concentration camps or clinics (for Aryan people killed for medical reasons...epilepsy for instance)? The vast majority of obese people have control over their weight. I'm not saying have compassion for the obese (I'm obese) but don't compare them to people who have no way to change their plight.

[@soccerchick1]

@@janejones7638 “vast majority have control over their weight” lmaooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo plus a holocaust reference smh typical

[@Adardidnothingwrong]

Do people understand that after you lose weight... you're still there? That would be like saying a cure for diabetes was eugenics against diabetics because their diabetes would be taken away

[@soccerchick1]

THANK YOUUUUUUUUU

[@miiumaonu]

Do ppl realize that no doctor will put "reason of death:obesity" on any paper? It is a little bit more complicated than that. Also, I have dissected overweight and obese cadavers in anatomy class. Yes, there might be a limit due to the dissecting tables having a weight limit but we definitely had up to 200kg.

[@p8735]

exactly. it’s kind of like AIDS in a sense. when someone with AIDS passes, their cause of death will not be listed as AIDS. it’ll be listed as the illness that ultimately killed them DUE TO the immune system weakness caused by AIDS. the cause could be pneumonia, influenza, any sort of virus. a condition like obesity won’t necessarily directly cause death but it can definitely contribute or facilitate it through it’s linked diseases.

[@miyannaable]

The whole "Diets fail" phenomenon has turned into some kind of twisted affirmation. As you say, we hear this over and over and over again. Loving oneself for who they are is beautiful - limiting oneself to a state of static failure and searching for approval for one's absolute lack of motivation is tragic.

[@realemmcee]

It kind of reminds me of how cult leaders talk about people who leave the cult, like “the non-believers will perish” and all that.

[@danielbrown001]

It’s also entirely preventable. The reason MOST diets fail is because MOST people dieting are dieting in incredibly poor and unsustainable ways. I know a ton of people (myself included) who have lost and kept off a substantial amount of weight by using strategies that have been shown to be effective by research and experience: High protein intake, resistance training, not going into an extreme deficit, keeping up general activity levels both during and after weight loss, bodyweight monitoring both during and after weight loss, not doing fad diets cutting out entire food groups or macronutrients, lifestyle and habit changes made permanent, etc. Most people losing weight violate some or all of the above and that’s why they fail. Everyone I know who does all of the above has not only lost weight, but kept it off long term.

[@miyannaable]

@@danielbrown001 Right on!! Self-improvement requires an educated approach such as this.

[@lenacollins150]

Well said!

[@miyannaable]

@@lenacollins150 Thank you :)

[@Pippa87]

Briannah Jewell has just released a video addressing people who are attacking her for being fatphobic for wanting to be a Bariatric dietitian. They are out in FORCE today.

[@nataliamonteiro1016]

I was an obese kid. Once I went to the doctor and he told me to lose weight. He said “if not due to health think about it for aesthetic purposes.” It was horrible, I left that office wanting to cry.

[@LLCoolJ_25]

That’s such a dangerous thing to say to a patient

[@nataliamonteiro1016]

@@LLCoolJ_25 yea, now that I’m an adult I know it was very inappropriate. At the time it just made me feel like shit.

[@MrPete1985]

I can't wait until I've lost the weight so I can start oppressing

[@aloveaffairwithself]

😂😂😂 Me too. Down 60. 50 more pounds to go 😂

[@reizak8966]

@@aloveaffairwithself After the final fifty is where the real 'oppressing' starts. Jokes aside, good job to both of you!

[@FrauStormm]

I went from 220lbs to 170 and I know they would come for me if I ever spoke out about how my body type is not being represented in plus size or “average” women in media being a problem.

[@jeng.2117]

I think it's worth pointing out that plane seats are too small for adults in general. At 5'3/115lbs, I felt like I was being shoved into a shoe. I can't even imagine what it's like for those who are not petite, irrespective of their weight. Probably like hitching a ride in the hull of the Mayflower.

[@Pugetwitch]

What are you flying? Spirit? Because when I was your size at 5'6/5'7 and 113 lb, I felt like I had a lot of room when I used to fly in Alaska airlines regularly.

[@DANIxDANGER]

@@Pugetwitch same. I travel for work and I'm 5'1" 125lbs. I got a shit ton of room.

[@cocolina53348]

Delta main cabin is terrible. I literally had to move to an aisle seat because i was starting to get claustrophobic

[@WileyCylas]

Hello same weight person! How’s it goin?

[@Blackandwhitecat-u9v]

If the seats are too small, you’re too fat. Period!

[@ChronicallyMichelle1995]

I saw a TikTok: a women really skinny due to medical condition, gastroparesis I also have this stomach is paralyzed so very skinny, she had a skirt that no longer fit her due to weight loss, she was all excited cuz she found out she could pull a string the skit got smaller. She was attacked for buying Plus size clothing when she wasn’t plus size, the skirt was a size medium and it fit when she got it.

[@Papa-Rah]

I am very obese myself and I am oppressed. I oppressed myself by allowing myself to get to a point where I can't tie my shoes or get dressed without it being a huge effort. No one did this to me, I did it to myself. Being fat is not something to be proud of or flaunt. It is dangerous. I could literally drop and die at any moment because my bloop pressure is sky high and my cholesterol is sky high. Being fat is not a way of life, being fat is something to work at not becoming or work at eliminating because it is deadly.

[@daddysgirl102938]

Sending healing vibes your way. I struggle with addiction and know all to well of being the cause of my own downfall. But it's never too late to heal and work towards recovery 🥰 you're imporant and our mistakes don't define us! Sending love and recovery as im trying to do the same! You're stronger than you think!

[@Papa-Rah]

@@daddysgirl102938 thanks for the good vibes

[@PiaPancakes]

Wishing you the best ❤.

[@densetsu9907]

When being fat is your identity

[@CamberFitness]

I wonder if this girl takes responsibility for anything in her life?? 🤷‍♂️ She seriously sounds like a child blaming everything but herself for her situation. Just because you have a hard time controlling your eating and decided to not even try, doesn’t mean you have to put everyone one else down for their attempts at it…🤦‍♂️

[@Dan_Phantom]

This whole "eugenics" against fat people really passes me off. Being trans, queer, and neurodivergent while also being fat, going in transition not that long ago you would be forced to get sterilised, not being able to adopt kids or get married. And even now being openly trans or queer is having a target on your back. And being neurodivergent was and still is a big problem getting shit about its bad and need to be "cured". Trust me, being fat is the least of my problem. But I do agree that the medical fatfobia is a problem that needs to be handled.

[@StevieChilds]

Obesity is a medical condition, I don't understand why trying to manage or treat a condition is a negative in any way. If people choose not to do anything that's their choice, and same for people that do choose to treat it. Also, say you had a tumor causing you to not be able to move how you used to. Can you imagine if the Dr. just didn't mention the tumor because he didn't want to offend the patient? The Dr. wouldn't be doing his job, he could be sued and you could even die. While I think there's a respectable, compassionate way to discuss things like weight I don't think it's fair to demonize medical professionals for doing their job. Furthermore, to have a patient visiting repeatedly with issues attributed to a specific cause, and have that person ignore medical advice and do nothing to alleviate the cause, well I imagine it would be quite difficult to maintain patience with someone like that. You can't treat someone that refuses to follow the treatment.

[@thesammielee]

I want to comment on docs saying "just lose weight!" I was pretty skinny in college due to me working out all the time but my cholesterol was complete trash. It took me getting half my thyroid removed and having bloodwork done every few months for doctors to notice I had health issues on the inside. Docs see skinny people and they assume they're healthy, docs see obese people and tell them to lose weight instead of investigating their symptoms. Just my 2 cents! Definitely a valid concern with docs just making assumptions about larger sized individuals along with people on the opposite end.

[@hairyfrankfurt]

Being underweight- same issues as this fatphobia thing. But have you ever heard these people saying we need to stand up for underweight people?

[@callanightshade8079]

Nope and we never will because they're not "oppressed" like fat people are 🤦‍♀️

[@honorcollins6962]

They have no problem with underweight=unhealthy but they believe overweight=unhealthy is oppressive. As an underweight person trying to gain weight it infuriates me

[@soccerchick1]

@@honorcollins6962 I deal with fluctuating weight from medications for a chronic illness/disability and hearing the compliments when I’m thin and insults when I’m heavy are beyond defeating and demoralizing. Same person. Out of my control completely. People need to stop being so judgemental and just let people live. You have no idea what they’re dealing with. Millions of medications cause weight changes and America for sure has a health crisis overall.

[@Aceofwolves]

Because they (haes) don't care about ANYONE else's problems but their OWN and don't understand triage or health care

[@Treerootz1]

Comparing yourself to a mountain. Lmfao

[@sweetn0thing681]

When she said the OcEaN… 💀

[@mothrasdaughter]

I get really irritated with the ‘movement’ seemingly having the idea that the only type of medical discrimination that is important is medical fat phobia. Like, yeah, there is medical fatphobia, but there are people who deal with medical discrimination that has nothing related to being fat. And all the content I’ve seen about medical fatphobia has been based on surgeries that they can’t get bc of anesthesia and it could kill them. Ourselves are our own best advocates. Instead of crying on the internet, find a different doctor, put in the work etc. I have experienced medical discrimination due to my young age by GPs who know nothing, all to be proven wrong by specialists that I sought out on my own. I had to seek out specialists to get an official dx of endometriosis, arthritis in my spine, cyst in my spine. One doctor is not the end all be all.

[@dilaisy_loone2846]

I mean there is a bias in the medical field where they dismiss any concern because you’re overweight. Like, overweight is not even being that fat, and my doctor just tell me to lose weight and everything is gonna solve itself

[@mothrasdaughter]

@@dilaisy_loone2846 yeah I’m technically overweight, fortunately I didn’t have to deal with weight discrimination cause they straight up just refused to treat me so they didn’t get the chance to lol. ETA: they would tell me to take it up with my specialists or blame my T1D and endo

[@soccerchick1]

100% thank you.

[@ezralee8304]

i love funtie times sm

[@Conformist138]

Weight loss is eugenics? Tell that to Amy Slatton, who lost weight specifically because it was the only way she could carry a baby to term, and now she has 2.

[@ashh1371]

“My death won’t be blamed on my weight” I was in a roll over car crash few years ago and if I wouldn’t have been light enough to hold myself in my seat I’d have fallen out of my car and died. So yeah… if I would have been obese I would have died in that car accident. EVERYTHING IS RELATED TO WEIGHT!!

[@BassetHoundCharlie350]

I was a medical aircraft dispatcher for eight years. My flight crews routinely had to turn down a flight request because the patient was too heavy/wide. Often they would fly over to the hospital, measure and assess the patient's size, and then have to announce they could not transport the patient due to girth or weight. Apparently there was a case where a 400LB woman was in a car crash and the rescue rotor could not transport her. She died at scene and her family tried suing the flight company for discrimination.

[@Chihirolee3]

Eugenics would be more "true" in regards to skinny people. This isnt the 1970's where being overweight was a minority. This is 2022 and being within a healthy BMI range is the new minority in the western world.

[@Moose92411]

I think the person who refutes these Tik Toks and I would get along great. That seems like a very rational, informed person.

[@Frankiepinklights]

45 pounds ago doctors treated me piss poor for being 275 pounds. I didn’t get a period for close to a year after getting regular period like clockwork for 19 years and just kept being told lose weight lose weight lose weight. No one would do blood work on me, ultrasounds, nothing. Once it finally did come back I had uterine hemorrhaging and ended up having to have a partial hysterectomy at 30 years old. It’s dangerous for someone with a uterus to go so long without menstruating. It can cause uterine cancer and they did not care. “Lose weight” was always the answer.

[@alexandratomczyk]

A friend of mine is an average size (on the very slim side too), and she feels so underrepresented. What she sees in media/marketing is either skinny youth or plus size included only for the sake of inclusivity, and I agree - we need more middle-of-the-line representation all around. Preferable without retouch! 🙄🙄😆😆

[@kristenskaff1669]

I think what is so great about your comments (in this video and overall) is that you do amazing job of combining a real empathy (and realistic portrayal) of what it is like to be someone who is overweight, with a little bit of truth and tough love about it. Really appreciate you calling a spade a spade, but also being an encourager and a good example. You are such a valuable part of this space!

[@sierahfredrickson9984]

My binge eating disorder was actually due to my adhd. I got prescribed Vyvanse and lost a bunch of weight from that

[@InTheNameOfLife1]

Vyvance made me about 30lbs underweight when I was on it. This was after already trying to recover from anorexia that my psychiatrist new about. And I definitely took advantage of that. That shit can be dangerous

[@daliahmeadow5257]

I’ve been thin my whole life and the “suck is skinnies” Tik tok make me crack up lol. A lot of these Tik toks made some weird points but I thought that one was pretty funny

[@TheBbb163]

People will do anything except help themselves

[@Cherryblossoms110]

Unfortunately that's how most addictions are. Also unfortunately, eating addictions are one of the hardest addictions to kick.

[@jillcampbell3510]

I have had some of the opposite experiences with my doctors. I have a degenerating disc in my back and have been left on the floor for hours on end because I was in so much pain that I couldn't get up and had to call an ambulance. I am surprised that my doctor didn't mention weight loss as an option to help alleviate pain. I decided to lose weight on my own because to me it was self explanatory that more weight on my back would equal more pain. I lost about 50 lbs so far (down from about 300) and my back pain is much less. I can't believe my doctors didn't suggest weight loss in a respectful way.

[@Aceofwolves]

Public saftey must focus on the majority. Its about saving lives. Kinda important

[@devastados]

the greg doucettification of your voice in this video

[@koyotestudios4182]

When it comes to doctors I never experienced the blatant fatphobia of it's because you are fat. The reason behind that being it was the medicines I was put on for another condition that causes my weight gain. What I did experience was a difference in treatment after I lost weight. I have fibro and I could go into the doctor and be crying doubled over from a flare at 280lbs and get told go home, take some Motrin you'll be fine. Except I'd been doing that, I've been on a Motrin regimen for years. They definitely treated me like I wanted narcotics when I was simply wanting a lidocaine shot or torodal shot to break up my agony since I'm actually very afraid of narcotics and would loudly voice this. They even tried to blame my mental health once vs my fibro. Never my weight. Then I lost weight, got down to 160 and about 25% body fat, had a fibro flare that wasn't near as bad but I needed to work and something was clearly wrong with my shoulder as well, went to urgent care and not only did this doctor jump up to do X-rays, offered me narcotics which I said no to ect and generally went out of their way to make me comfortable. I was shocked when it dawned on me yes, I have experienced fatphobia, just quietly where no one mentioned my weight. I'm the child of a Physician's Assistant, I know the medical practice is a corporate industry so it baffles me why doctors don't run the same expensive tests for people of higher weight. The worst thing that could happen is they're right, it's your weight and their ego gets stroked, they refer them to a nutritionist and an excercise program and the patient is also satisfied because the doctor LISTENED! The best thing? They're wrong but they save a life in the process. You know, the thing they took an oath to do? Again, more ego stroking for the doctor because they an tell their colleagues I listened and saved a life. Yes, you're going to get charged more as a patient for extra tests but as a doctor they would be making more, the insurance company and big pharma make more. It's so mind boggling they just blame it on weight and the only explaination is they don't care enough about giving people who are overweight the same attention as other patients. As for all these other issues about plane seats, and crash test dummies so on. Yes, it makes sense for the world to work in an "average persons mindset". That's just how the world works. The medical field however needs to do a better job of personalized care and we should have been doing that twenty thirty years ago vs this one size fits all shit. None of this means obesity isn't still unhealthy, it means we have to do better at treating people based on their individual situation and not this cookie cutter concepts. That's how people get hurt and / or die.

[@lekiscool]

I’m a 148cm person so about the size of a 12 yo. I literally have to climb on things to reach stuff. Its not hightphobic that I have to use a step ladder.

[@Aceofwolves]

People who are obese were able to get the vaccine MONTHS before me and i wasnt allowed to visit my dying family member in the ER because i wasnt vaccinated as i didnt qualify at the time.... So do fat people have privilege now?

[@dreamermassacre5539]

These people wouldn’t have survived 20 years ago. Now A days they’re becoming so common and it’s kind of scary

[@pig3292]

Can you elaborate? Fat people wouldn't survive in the early 2000s? 🤔

[@treefrog1018]

They probably didn't survived...they probably killed themselves. Now they can talk.

[@rachmaninovwasemo2313]

Just remember that the internet is not an accurate representation of real life. These people are loud. I think most people irl disagree. 😊

[@catgpm6964]

"I'm a Pokemon now. Deal with it" 🤣🤣🤣 YEAH JUST DEAL WIT IT!

[@taylorpalmer894]

Oh no that girl did not just compare human bodies to mountains and redwood trees… 🤦🏽‍♀️

[@janejones7638]

I normally laugh at crazy fat positivity videos/tik toks/igs etc. But the person who used the phrase eugenics made me livid. Millions of Jews, Homosexuals, Genetically deficient (epileptic, the mental and physical r word {I'm not using it but it was an actual diagnosis in the past}, down's syndrome etc.) were put to death by the Nazis for things they literally had no way of changing. To compare obesity to this is so vile. I know there are a group of people who have no control over their body type (fat or thin). However, it's a very small group. I agree about MDs unwilling to see past a patient's weight. Doctor Mike has a video on his channel regarding a patient he had who might have been treated differently by another physician. I've actually seemed to hear him talk about it more than many fat activists.

[@blackrose538]

If I feel like I'm "the fat friend" and the 'item' of their fat people jokes... I'd drop these friends and look for new friends. If your friends make fun of you, they're not your friends.

[@geoffreyjohnson3683]

I do think that large men are discriminated against in affordable clothing options. All these stores like old navy and target are trying to be body positive and have made some steps. However that said it seems that woman have 1,000's of low budget plus size options like tops and graphic t's etc. but when it comes to men a shirt that is not plain or garbage quality in $40-$60 each. There is a huge gap in the clothing inequality of plus size female vs plus size male clothing

[@Natalie_11188]

I agree with you. I think that’s because women as a whole are expected to spend more money on apparel than men are. I have always wondered what petite men (thin and short) and heavy/short men do as far as fashion! If you aren’t over 6’2 and you’re larger as a man you’re screwed as far as off rack clothes.

[@sierahfredrickson9984]

I remember when I was in HS the nurse was like have you considered going on a diet (both nurses were very large ) I was around 180 at the time and fit into a size small shirt and was on 2 varsity sports and almost had abs lol. I’m like I workout a totally of 4-6 hours a day. I’m fine 🙃🤨

[@mackenzie3576]

Your probably just all muscle! When I’m gaining muscle I gain weight despite loosing body fat. A fast metabolism, being a bit eater, and a good training routine will do that😅 (body recomp)

[@wildcatghoulette1822]

There's a "crabs in the bucket" mentality with so many of these fat acceptance/liberation folks. I just honestly think some of these people need to get out and touch some grass. Get out of that TikTok based echo chamber (or just get your head out of your own arse) and realise your opinion isn't always going to be agreed with, and in many cases, is based on incorrect information that you've been fed.

[@pig3292]

Dying laughing at you comparing your loose skin to Ditto lol

[@derrickscott1630]

It's even funnier because calling someone a ditto is a real insult 😂

[@Adeltraut]

Not my Intention to disrespect anyone who is overweight and fatshaming has to stop. People who are this much overweight are actually investing a huge part of their daily life into maintaining this size. Its similar to other addiction diseases where patients really struggle to fight habits that consume a good part of their life. Similarily to alcoholism the social surroundings of your upbringing are the most relevant factor in judging the risk to be overweight. Its complete denial to normalise such habits instead of trying to address it as a nationwide issue.

[@apearson9687]

I really appreciate your even-handed take on these things! Love your videos.

[@pegasus2303]

we've moved on to fat being part of eugenics now...

[@halfpintyt]

There isn't anything wrong with being overweight. The only thing "wrong" is when it negatively impacts a person's quality of life.

[@Chihirolee3]

And other people's quality of life. Taxpayers shoulder most of the medical needs of those whose weight is directly impacting their illnesses (obesity is the leading cause of death when it is factored into the other top reasons people die). Not to begative impact to family and friends. Friends who watch this person suffer, or children who are taught poor eating choices and body image issues from parental figures. Its bad for the planet. Being overweight leads to higher gas, food, and waste at a tremendously higher rate than people who are not overweight. Being overweight impacts everyone's quality of life negatively, everyone on this entire planet.

[@chirara1071]

“So deal with it… you know?” Lmfao

[@babowasalwayshere]

Tbh complaining about people 'body checking' on the internet by posting before and after pics and stuff is pretty much the equivalent of going outside and knocking on someone's door and being like, "Hello sir, you don't know me but I was just peeping in your window and I couldn't help but notice you are doing something I don't like. Because I don't like it, you need to stop." Just... stop looking in people's windows? Stop looking at their page? You literally are not being forced to look at it and just because you glimpsed at it by chance, by accident, doesn't justify complaining people are *existing* in a way you disagree with.

[@astridx7485]

How can someone compare a mountain to being fat... What a crazy world

[@jerQCote]

on the "we can't always accommodate for the outlier" roughly 42% of US adults are obese. I don't think a group that sizeable in numbers can or should be treated as an outlier. Obesity is an epidemic and it is worsening, but the solutions to that is not to refuse accommodations for the obese population. The most effective method of addressing it is policy. Subsidizing healthier foods Sin taxes on junk food and sugary drinks Replacing food stamps with direct cash transfers and expanding transfer program Addressing food deserts Creating walkable neighborhoods that promote active transportation rather than car dependency Universal healthcare that also cover nutritionists Cooking classes in school that help prepare the youth for nutritional independance while setting a healthy example More funding for sports programs to make them accessible to lower class people children and adults alike Developing effective mass transit networks and making transit free for students and the elderly All these policies have proven to have great benefits on people's weight, level of fitness, childhood development and overall quality of life.

[@clintparsons3989]

We can’t even legislate to protect our fifth graders from getting shot up in math class, good luck with all of that.

[@jerQCote]

@@clintparsons3989 can't make it happen if we don't try

[@arieldavis3662]

I agree with the vast majority of your proposals, but I do want to comment on Universal health care (i’ll call it UHC from here on out for brevity) in particular: I understand (and agree wholeheartedly with the notion) that our health care system needs reform. That being said: without radically altering the entirety of our economic system, implementing UHC at this point in time would really only lead to a massive amount of people being forced into either poverty or an extremely restricted budget due to the sheer amount of taxes needed to pay for such a plan. I’m a proponent of the Iron Triangle theory when it comes to economics, and the iron triangle of healthcare really can’t be disregarded in my opinion. Essentially it states that there are 3 things, affordability, accessibility, and quality, and when it comes to healthcare, regardless of what economic system you have in place, you ultimately end up only being able to have two of those things, however you would like to mix and match them. In places like Canada and the UK with UHC, you either get affordability and quality (but it is difficult to gain access as you have excessive waiting lists that are sometimes up to several months or years long) or you get affordability and accessibility (but the quality suffers because they have so many people to look at that they can’t spend adequate time or resources on everyone) Most any country you can think of, their health care system is some combination of 2/3 of those things (with the exception being incredibly poor countries, which may in some cases only possess one of the three). Our issue in the US with our current system is that we get accessibility (walk-in clinics and relatively short wait-times for most appointments excluding the extreme specialists and most demanded practitioners/surgeons) and we get quality (overall US doctors/nurses are very adept and can help you, but I do understand that there are still sometimes just sub-par doctors that lack professionalism or brush you off but that’s a potential issue no matter where in the world you go) The thing we lack in general is obviously affordability. I’ve heard a few proposed ideas about how we could improve that and most of them have to do with increasing competition in the insurance sphere, since there are already transparency laws on the books in most states that disallow hospitals themselves from being able to spring hidden fees on patients. If we are going to get the cost of healthcare down while still providing quality care and keeping people from having to sit on waiting lists for exorbitant amounts of time, then it’s the insurance companies and namely the price-gouging ones that we are going to need to address. I don’t have an exact solution for that because that’s not my area of expertise, but I can at the least recognize that UHC for a country of our population size will only end up negatively affecting basically everyone but the most wealthy due to the tax increases necessary to implement it. Can you imagine paying 40-50% taxes on top of what you already pay? In addition to the current inflation? Many people’s’ wages haven’t been increased at all during the pandemic or after, so their buying power is already strained as it is. I’m not attacking you, just sprinkling in my two cents regarding UHC is all🤔 I guess the TL;DR of this comment would be that i agree with most of your proposals! When it comes to universal healthcare in a nation our size though, I would have to disagree with it at face value because I don’t think it would help most people in the long-run to be forced into a personal economic crisis on top of what we are already seeing happen across the country. We do need SOME kind of reform when it comes to private health insurance though, and I solidly stand by that.

[@pegaseg70]

@@arieldavis3662 +1 I've heard that Thailand, Japan, Sweden and Denmark have a great medical system

[@arieldavis3662]

@@pegaseg70 As far as quality and affordability goes, I’ve heard that as well! That being said, there is still the issue of higher taxes, which on a small scale wouldn’t be as difficult, but the US is roughly 2-3x larger than Japan population-wise, I believe. There is also a significantly smaller amount of doctors available though, leading to longer wait times as they need to review individuals much more thoroughly so they can prioritize care. In the scope of the iron triangle (again, only if you believe in that particular formula which I do), that would mean that you can get exceptional care at a relatively low cost (not including the taxes that everyone, including healthy people, pay into), but the accessibility is going to be lower just by the nature of supply/demand of doctors and services If we could somehow incorporate something like that in America *without* paying out the wazoo in taxes, I’d be completely on board though!

[@LadyofLeisure.]

She is that person that has a problem for every solution. It’s exhausting 🙄

[@sugarmouse3555]

This is so disgusting. Eugenics is what happened to Jewish people, gypsy’s and disabled people in the Holocaust. It’s what happened to disabled women, black and other minority ethnic women who were sterilised under duress or with no knowledge whatsoever. These people make me sick.

[@emmanueloduntan3286]

16:39 HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA I’m liking this video because of your guns ! Nice biceps by the way!💪🔝

[@kathleenbarney3930]

I lost weight because my knees hurt, I have a family history of type two diabetes and I have two children who need a healthier mom. I think they miss that there is a big difference between morbidly obese and skinny. I have lost 165 pounds from my heaviest weight. I am still 5 pounds overweight on the bmi chart. I have been unable to lose more and have accepted where I am. According to them I am fatphobic though

[@hedaheda1609]

What is 5 pounds!? (about 2.5 kg? the non-metric system is a dark picture for me). It's trifles. Your health indicators have definitely improved, you can move freely - that's the main thing! These 2.5 kg are definitely no longer a physical nuisance and pose no health risks, that's the main thing. You are not a fatphobe, you are a good mom!

[@Nixiss]

“IF YOU DONT LIKE IT, DO THIS 🙈”

[@mclarabb]

I have post-graduation in sociology, and I understand that complex problems as obesity should be solved by 2 complementary ways: 1. What you can do to yourself, and change your diet and exercise more 2. What the system can do to you: produce health products that most of the population can afford, balance working life so most of the population can exercise to be healthy, force companies to give better jobs so people will have more psychological safety, etc (just examples). The girl in the video tries to bring this second issue up, but by denying that the first one is also a fact. Is it not an OR situation, but an AND situation. And if we as society incorporates this speech, we can only win with this.

[@adventurouspeach]

i would love to add that i am in med school and the cadaver my group dissected for anatomy class had a BMI over 35 - which is well into the obesity range and this was not a one-off thing. i don't know if this is just a difference because i study in the uk rather than the usa

[@adventurouspeach]

just to add here i don't want to ignore medical gaslighting which defo happens and is very real. i just want to talk on the one point that was being able to donate your body to science

[@sarabird7922]

Hi, I work for a body donation program and could talk about this - ie weight restrictions, how fat decomposes and death certs in an expert way. HMU if you want to talk about this. In college classes when I talk, this is always discussed for 5-10 minutes which is pretty interesting to see the questions that pop up. Of course this verifies from place to place - fresh studies are different than preserved donors. Also if you'd like to talk to the Brandi Schmidt (who heads up California's medical school programs I could give you were contact info which you could look up too).

[@Ash_Shark_]

19:43 It helped me 😭 i didn't have a scale and was convinced I was heavily overweight (body dysmorphia). I was younger and didn't realise that it is normal to have rolls when you hunch over and to bloat. it helped me stop harming myself. and it turned out I was a perfectly normal weight(docs appt.)

[@LadeeLumps]

Use your voice to stand up for fat phobia? Aren't there hundreds of other more important issues to focus on using your voice for? I think so. I absolutely understand the difficulties obese people go through in daily life, I speak from experience. Serious discussion needs to be had, experiences shared, improvements made in things like medical care. But let's talk about what is really going on with these extreme body positivity/fat acceptance arguments. Everyone just wants an excuse to do what they want, eat what they want. It's annoying that I can't just eat pizza every day, its delicious and I love it. Human beings are POS self absorbed, greedy, indulgent, narcissistic, entitled goblins who just want to be able to do what they want without consequence. Now more than ever. Hella delicious food is out there, its cheap, we want to eat all of it. Truth is, if we just have some self control (yes there are lots of factors but bare bones of the facts is you stop eating so much and exercise a bit, fat is not any of our natural state, no matter how you want to delude yourself into thinking that way) we lose weight and stay much healthier for it. It's only difficult because we don't want to stop eating, we cry about it because pizza is hella tasty. So fine, if you want to just eat what you want and stay fat, fine, do it, who cares, it's your body. I totally agree and stand with those people who feel this way. However don't feed yourself lies and delusion and promote false science and random stats you can't back up, and try to compare what you are going through as a fat person with people who have real problems that they can't do anything about so easily. Also, can people all stop talking about entitlement and lack of privilege on this topic, all these people with all this access to so many services. You want to talk about poor healthcare please walk 10 miles to get to a facility and end up getting little more than a band aid. Keep on crying about how your doctor is advising you to lose weight to get healthy when you're visiting about how you can't sleep, struggle to walk, breathe, have high blood pressure, etc. Take some responsibility for yourself and accept that the weight you put on yourself is VERY LIKELY to have negatively affected your health. RANT OVER.

[@necronyx7176]

Dude, I just wanted to say thanks for the content. You always make me laugh and think, even when I'm having a shlt week. Hope you're doing well, man

[@meiyutr7828]

internet police here! the post you're making really tickles thee spot, keep it up

[@orbitalchild]

I'm with you on the medical stuff. It took me 6 years to get diagnosed with Parkinson's because my doctors just kept blowing me my increasing movement issues on my weight. How exactly they thought neurological movement problems were related to my weight I will never know. And it's not even like I was given a diagnosis of Parkinson's in absence of any other reason. I have a genetic mutation known to always be pathogenic for Parkinson's

[@entretenimiento3347]

Combating obesity inst eugenics but also eugenics isn't just about race is actually mostly about people with disabilities and chromosome or born mutations

[@spicehurls]

I have sooooo much medical trauma. I have avascular necrosis among other things and I wasn’t taken seriously because of my weight. I got lucky and managed to catch it early, but I wonder how many people can’t :/ it feels dumb to lump fatphobia in medicine with vanity reasons.

[@Revz8bit]

I grew up poor and didn't gain weight until I was an adult. Heaven forbid parents feed their kids right on a budget. Most of the time people feed their kids fast food because THEY ARE LAZY.

[@hedaheda1609]

Parents also give in to the psychological pressure of children (which I observed in our school, where there are quite a lot of children who do not eat school lunch for 2.05 euros, but they have enough money to eat fast food in Hesburger or buy various unhealthy snacks and sweet drinks). It should be added here that our country has very strict guidelines regarding school meals and the food is varied and balanced; and delicious, because specifically we are lucky to have good cooks.

[@crystalv4512]

I’m morbidly obese and I can’t stand the stuff being said in this video. Just because you’re overweight doesn’t mean that you have to control everything that everyone does. I totally agree with you and the woman who is sharing her opinion about the heavy woman’s video.

[@savannah4439]

FWIW, I am a medical student and my anatomy lab actually had more overweight/obese cadavers than thin/fit cadavers! So I guess that’s a sign that things are changing

Yeah, the belief that obese persons aren't able to donate one's body to science (be it to educational or professional institutions) is really pushed on FatTok, even though it's not at all true. One of the biggest offenders of this bit of misinformation is TikToker, FatSapphicBro. FSB pulled up literally ONLY ONE teaching hospital, I believe in the Portland, Ore., area, to support this belief. Pointing to ONE teaching hospital that currently doesn't need cadavers of obese people proves nothing. It proves only that _the one teaching hospital pulled up as "evidence,"_ currently has no need for obese cadavers (at least at the time of sourcing that information about cadaver donation requirements). All sorts of cadavers of literally all sizes are needed for a variety of reasons -if not in teaching, then in professional fields of science, such as forensics. My guess is that _some schools might even have a surplus of obese cadavers,_ and thus really need the bodies of smaller/more-average-size people to teach with.

[@Revz8bit]

One of these days, obese people are going to realize that having the excess to even be that size, is in itself a place of privilege. Stop playing the victim and own up to your own behavior.

[@docouchi7929]

Medication is harder ? Absolutely not, we hace mg/kg/min not just for obese but for children, skinnier people ect…

[@Aceofwolves]

Yep. Even sex can play a role. Zolpidem is an pretty infamous example. AFAB people were having car accidents because they metabolized it slower and were more drowsy in the morning. And so the FDA had to step in and lower the dose for AFAB people.

[@Reppintimefitness]

Last time I came this early I got laughed at

[@tonnaloach5249]

At first I was like awww that’s mean, why? .. read it again and started laughing 😂😂

[@BecomingBadassMama]

😂

[@carmenisabel]

Lol I’ll give you this one

[@AnneQuiet]

🤣😂 good one!

[@derrickscott1630]

You're still getting laughed at, just in a more lighthearted manner this time. 😂😂

[@Conformist138]

All the things listed as linked to obesity are things that impact... diet and exercise. Like, zip codes aren't literally fattening. It's usually food deserts, where it's harder to get to a proper grocery store, but there are a dozen 7-Elevens and fast food places in between. Lack of money isn't literally fattening, but lower economic status can mean working more with less time to focus on cooking or shopping. Ultra processed foods can also be calorie-for-calorie cheaper.

[@TheSanguineSiren]

Last time I went to the doctor for a back issue I wasn't really listened to. For years now if you touch my lower spine I jump and scream out in pain. Sometimes it's so bad I can't even sit up. I went to the doctor and they didn't even do an xray or mri, they just told me to take over the counter pain killers and lose weight, if my legs went numb or I peed myself I should go to the er. I was taking pain killers and they weren't helping and how am I supposed to cook healthy when I couldn't stand and lived alone at the time and how do I work out if sitting up out of bed hurts? Luckily it's on an off now.

[@kxs7267]

Glad you're okay at the moment. I've been there myself, with living alone while barely able to crawl. In case you ever need it again, here are some of the things that helped me. Cooking: chair or high stool in the kitchen so you don't have to stand. Pre-cut veg, frozen is cheaper. One pot meals, throw it all in a pot, set a timer and leave it, so you don't need to stand over it while it cooks. Or anything that can be bunged in the oven. And so on... Exercise: small dumbbells for arm exercises done lying down e.g. chest presses and arm raises. Leg raises. Progress to other lying down exercises like crunches and glute bridges, even if you only do one or two repetitions at a time. Stretches. Little at a time but as often as your body will tolerate, and you will (very) gradually improve mobility and strength - any improvement at all is a win. And that makes one feel better mentally, too. Hope you never need this kind of advice again, but I hope someone might find it useful.

[@TheSanguineSiren]

@@kxs7267 thank you for the advice! I did end up getting a cooking stool for those days, helped a bunch especially when I needed to do a lot of chopping or mixing.

[@kxs7267]

@@TheSanguineSiren Glad that worked for you. I couldn't have done without it. If I had space in the kitchen, I could really fancy a rocking chair in there for sitting and stirring up cakes or bread!

[@StevieChilds]

Thank you! There's a reason there is an "average", using it covers the largest amount of people, and there's many different people that don't fit the "average", not just obese people.

[@Raz_Tactical]

While I agree that doctors are quick to jump on the "its because you're fat" excuse but at the same time it is very often true and would be the solution to majority of people's problems. This is especially the case for morbidly obese (which I was on the verge of). And loosing weight is a simple, cheap and non invasive test to see if its caused by being fat would be to loose a bit of weight and see if you feel better. If you do feel better good keep on loosing weight, symptoms don't improve? well we can now do further tests having excluded the most likely culprit. And its not just being fat. Its your diet in general, even people who are of correct weight will often have issues which can be solved by better nutrition.

[@TheElicest]

For #3, I don’t think she completely meant that the other factors that can exclude people from studies are related to being obese. Being obese is a variable that can change medication effectiveness so in beginning trials, it is important to reduce the variables to understand how well the medicine works on the illness it is treating. Fat can absorb certain substances. But later trials should expand the variables so the doctor can really make an educated guess on prescribing the best medication instead of just not prescribing it because it’s never been studied on obese people or different dosages

[@hoichan5378]

Some people have "better" genetic, they can just eat a lot of all crappy food and still stay skinny. Some people eat the same way would be obese, this is "not fair" but it's what you get from God. Like some people have food allergies, they can't have dairy/eggs/seafood and so on, it's "unfair" but you have to control what you can eat by yourself.

[@WileyCylas]

Annoying voice? No more like Teenage Anime Boy voice! 💘

[@CanisLupus1987]

😂 Greg Doucette incarnated in you temporarily 😂 those screams

[@worldofcyn]

Buy my cookbook!

[@kwest5171]

I'm fat. I own my fatness. I recognize it and don't expect the world to revolve around that fatness. I'm outside of the norm and I DO NOT expect society to conform to my size. In some cases, yes, it would be nice to have a bit bigger seat or to see more fashion available in larger sizes. However, it would also be nice if I treated my body better (I'm working on it) and lost some weight. I can't make demands of others if I'm not willing to put forth some effort as well. I hate the whole body positivity bull where people are making it about accepting obesity rather than self-love.

[@Edward_Strong1982]

Drs are absolute trash. My friend is overweight and if he tells his dr anything that he’s experiencing they blame it on his weight without looking into his concerns which is dangerous ‼️ he’s a big guy (6’3” 300 lbs) but he’s far from my 600 lb life type stuff. He’s left the doctor feeling defeated on multiple occasions and embsrssed because the dr pretty called him fat . I’m grateful that my doctor has NEVER mentioned my weight. I bring up my weight because I’ve been working out and getting in shape over the years and I ask for his advice. Other than that he never mentions my weight. Any issue I’ve had in my body he’s referred me to specialists or ordered MRIs etc to make sure I’m ok . He’s the greatest

[@Niikkoo69]

I definitely believe there needs to be more medical options and inclusiveness as far as health goes.. But if you can't ride a rollercoaster because you are to big (me included) they have that in place for safety.. so

[@Kimmehface]

The only thing I agree with is that we do need to fix a lot of the medical discrimination and we should try to be more inclusionary where we can. It’s good to represent different body types and accommodate different body types. But I think a lot of these issues are not necessarily because of fat phobia.

[@anhelaanhela4996]

Seatbelts and airplane belts are not an issue for me, but some theme park rides gave me horrendous bruises on the hip bones.

[@davidcorona8014]

Peaks for days bro.. do u even fill sleeves my guy lol.. hahahaa lol 😆 😂

[@Aceofwolves]

The body doesnt care about society or outside factors. It cares about physiological processes.

[@EleriOnline]

Agree with the medical stuff cause BMI is such an awful measurement for individuals. I was once told I couldn’t have birth control pills because my BMI was in the overweight category (26.6) when I was 131 lbs - I’m 5ft but lift weights and wear a US size 4 so I’m hardly ‘Fat’.

[@hedaheda1609]

Do doctors no longer look at the patient, only at the numbers? You don't need to be a medical doctor to visually distinguish an obese person from a muscular athlete and the like.

[@EleriOnline]

@@hedaheda1609 sometimes it would seem so!

[@ellabrown100]

I recently experienced a doctor who blamed everything on my weight. I was tired all the time and had no energy. The doctor told me to lose weight and I'd have more energy. I know how to lose weight, but I was exhausted ALL the time. I went to a better doctor who did some labs and my inflammation markers were off the charts. I have the start of Rheumatoid Arthritis or Lupus. He started treating me for them immediately, and once we got the inflammation under control my energy improved and the weight started to come off. If a doctor dismisses you because of your weight... FIND A BETTER DOCTOR!

[@elvispressley2365]

But obesity has a strong tendency to CREATE inflammatory disease. If possible to lose weight without super heavy chemicals, best idea. And I've taken an insane amount of needed meds in my life.

[@dadeligtfuldazzlingderika33]

I delt with depression for the longest time i was told diet and exercise would help, and granted it has beeh helping ALOT but not alot i was still struggling, but I recently got my IUD taken out and crazily enough my depression basically disappeared! Had they just taken a few extra steps i wouldnt have been dealing with it for 5 years

[@brassmoustache1392]

And we all know that Ditto would get some serious action when in those Pokémon daycares...

[@worldofcyn]

Ungodly amounts

[@virginiadare1587]

Yeah, that lady is about the same size my mom was. Her weight did contribute to her death.

[@AlwaysWrenchin]

I think maybe there has always been people who generally dislike people being obese. not disliking the person for being obese but just that human beings shouldn't be obese. I don't think it's gotten much worse. just easier for trolls to troll. and also there are WAY more obese people to take offense to the human body not really being built to be obese.