My Response To Fatphobia Claims

[@DoctorMike]

Doctors Reacting To Controversial Cosmo Cover On Weight - kzbin.info/www/bejne/d6qwqqKZh86qb68

[@bingyyt]

how did i find a comment from 23 minutes ago. This video literally came out 1 year ago

[@cakeisyummy5755]

Ooohhhh.... SECOND!

[@cakeisyummy5755]

@@bingyyt Magic, i guess?

[@Antonliubomyrskyi]

@@cakeisyummy5755 Yup

[@tomcotter4299]

This video should be titled “Sane Doctor Responds to The Critical Theory Cult” 🤣😂🤣

[@spyrothedragon9137]

Making fun of someone for being fat is one thing, but a doctor educating someone on the risks of being obese is NOT fat phobic

[@taylermarie7916]

Exactly. I agree

[@sorryifmycommentwasmeanwro2065]

IKR. Like, what the hell? I had obesity and trust me, fat acceptance is evil of the 21st century. You know those "Karens" who believed in NWO, satan worshipping celebs, Anti-Vax propagandas and the 'plot' to destroy the world? I would believe it if they say fat acceptance is one of those 'plots'.

[@AyeshSilva-e7e]

Even then this is retarded. People shouldn’t be offended by things like this. If people drop these peeps in a 3rd world country they’d die from becoming too offended.

[@Mohit-iu3ge]

neither of them is fatphobia

[@goneeee5598]

ikr

[@Chris-bx6ux]

A medically licensed doctor is advocating for a healthy body weight and people are complaining he's fatphobic. I've officially seen it all

[@doms.6701]

Because they think "fat at any size" and that you can eat anything while still being healthy

[@ArnoldFrost]

The thing I'm fond of about Dr. Mike's advocacy isn't the message itself but how empathetic he is delivering the message. He knows from the patients he's had the struggles of diets and whatnot which made him very sympathetic towards people who struggle with the mental part of weight loss for obese people (which is the biggst hurdle really; since dieting is the only real thing you'll need for weight loss unless say you got a couple pounds of sagging skin where physical activity will be welcome) He even sympathizes well enough for those who pretty much get harsh words from others' doctors

[@REDACTED-1]

@@ArnoldFrost Yeah. He really feels for the people who just can’t control themselves at all. Thank God were empathetic toward that weak and pathetic mindset and approach it with more weakness.

[@ochukwu]

Western culture's race to the bottom, and removal of all objective standards.

[@livelaughGENMU]

Honestly yes

[@josuenavarrete3701]

He’s a doctor, why wouldn’t he condone eating healthy. Just cuz he condones doesn’t mean he’s fat shaming. He’s just trying to help guide people to being healthier and happier

[@DianneAlexander4858]

Facts

[@g-4642]

maybe people need to take some advice, why do people want to ignore his advice when he's trying to helping them?

[@adendarican640]

Don't pay any mind to the people with below average iq

[@ughmuggles1815]

Most overweight/obese people have this mentality that if you speak about diets, exercise, weightloss you're automatically fatphobic. This isn't something new, its an issue happening daily on the internet and Dr Mike isnt the only one that has addressed this problem. Plenty of fitness content creators who have been on a weightloss journey have spoken up about this. Unfortunately those people refuse to listen because they blame it on their family history of obesity saying how they can never lose weight, theyve always been fat, and so forth. Any healthy advice they take it as fat shaming. Its quite sad honestly.

[@yawninghamster7238]

​@@ughmuggles1815 Most overweight/obese people know that they have a health problem and want to reverse it. You're describing the keyboard warrior fringe who take scientific facts as personal attacks. Not to mention some of us have had exceptionally rude, or shitty doctors who were 100% not helpful, so there's that.

[@scottresch9912]

As a man who is 370 pounds at 6'2" and a full time electrician. I move around a lot still because of my job. My eating problem is because, I don't have a lot of self control when it comes to food. But I can say that I really appreciate the videos where Dr Mike brings up obesity. They have gotten me motivated to overcome my self control issue. To this day I have lost 30 pounds in three months. Thank you Dr Mike. You have motivated me.

[@tiffany7023]

Keep going!! 🎉💪

[@mkfki4126]

good job, keep at it!

[@colton88]

Good job man, I’m proud of you and I’m rooting for you! You’ve got this!

[@livafunder7559]

Thats awesome, im so proud of you. Keep trying to prioritise your health my man

[@kevinriley8928]

That's awesome dude, keep pushing

[@luckypichuwu]

Fat shaming is laughing at someone for being fat Doctors help people when they are overweight

[@PatrickMcCawFitnessOfficial]

Yeah. There's a clear difference between "Laughing at fat people" and "Suggesting a different life style".

[@laurarossi8678]

EXACTLY! 💜💜💜

[@phyllishahart6111]

Exactly

[@andythierry5402]

Yes although that’s not what they said. I wholeheartedly disagree with what they said but they used the term fat phobic not fat shaming. The difference is that fat phobic is the notion that one fears fat people so to them they shouldn’t be a thing, i can see why this vision could be attributed to health professionals as doctors would normally never advise one to be overweight or stay overweight for obvious health reasons but i mean that’s the point of their profession, no one should blame them for promoting a healthy lifestyle with healthy life goals and them doing so doesn’t mean they are judgemental either so their stance on the matter is just stupid to me.

[@onlyf676]

@@PatrickMcCawFitnessOfficial exactly lol

[@brattneyrose5652]

"Obesity puts you at a higher risk for certain diseases." That's not fatphobia. That's medicine.

[@sportdoge1]

@Give me Idea about Names! natural selection

[@JellyAntz]

​@@sportdoge1 that's dark but sadly true if they don't help themselves after being given advice

[@MrJonezy541]

Feelings over science, it's the 2020 way.

[@ЛйлиТеоьДворянство]

OH NO! I'm fat so you can't mention anything related to it! I'm not unhealthy because I'm fat! My knees ain't painful because my wight! How do you dare to tell me to loose weight to help my knee pain? You are Soo fatphobic!!!!

[@sexysadie2901]

@@MrJonezy541 It's like being back in the Middle Ages.

[@allymills7089]

Telling someone they won’t be able to find love because they’re fat is fatphobic. Saying you’re at a risk of type 2 diabetes when you’re overweight is not.

[@charlieisacatwithseizures]

This is an excellent point. Fatphobia is when people say you are: lazy, disgusting, mean, stupid, ugly, worthless, don’t deserve respect or rights, should be treated unequally and should be shunned in society because you are fat. Health is important and should be sought out. I think health is less tied to the number on the scale or bmi and more about your habits. Do you eat balanced meals and exercise often? Do you avoid harmful habits like smoking and excessive drinking? If you get the recommended amount of exercise and eat with nutrition in mind, weight, shape, or size shouldnt really matter. As someone who is very anti-fatphobia, all i ask is people stop judging me, being cruel to me, prevent me from opportunities that i am well equipped for such as jobs, and constantly pressuring me to take up extreme measures that lead to eating disorders because of my size. Really, unless you are my doctor and you know my lifestyle and habits, you shouldnt be commenting on someone elses weight or what they eat. Its not your place. And i think its toxic to expect everyone to sustainably be able to be thin. Thinness does not equal health, and sometimes people cannot sustain a weight that someone else can. Yes, if we all starved, we could be thin, but that isnt sustainable. And i ask people to understand weight loss is a lot harder than it looks. It takes both mental and physical effort. It can consume your mind until its all you think about. I want everyone to be healthy, find food that is nutritious and satisfying. Find movement that makes them feel happy and do it often as possible. But that does not mean its ever ok to bully people because of how they look.

[@ramenriver6016]

@@charlieisacatwithseizures i'll pretend i read that

[@kkiitchhh]

Lisa Torro exactlu

[@mfn83]

@@charlieisacatwithseizures True, try the book "Essential fat", it is quite enlightening

[@bimborard7486]

exactly it’s as simple as that

[@bigtizzle1488]

As a formerly obese person, I appreciate Dr. Mike and wish I had someone like him in my corner when I was younger. He is not fat phobic, he is a doctor who obviously cares about his patients and is trying to share his extensive knowledge. Not all Doctors in the media are “Dr.” Oz.

[@winterwithawhyknudsen5166]

I hope you a safe recovery❤

[@elle_aye112]

"Obese" is a medical term, not hate speech. People really need to realize this

[@_worldwide_shoulders_3974]

Periodt💅🏻. Since in this generation the medical term “Obese” is being used to fat shame others and it just really needs to stop.

[@chazking8137]

@@_worldwide_shoulders_3974 agreed. Idiots thinking "obese" is some people using it to shame when medically that's exactly what they are. It's like telling people "So and so have autism" when that certain person DOES have autism. Is it hate speech? Don't think so.

[@pmfreekick8333]

@@_worldwide_shoulders_3974 How can be "obese" to used to fat shame somebody?

[@luc5547]

@@pmfreekick8333 when a medical professional uses the term "obese" to describe a patient's weight that's not fat-shaming. but it can be when people who aren't doctors and don't know what they're talking about use it to bully someone. i don't know whether you've ever seen comments under posts calling people "obese," but oftentimes those people are only slightly overweight and either way, some random kid making such a comment under someone's post is extremely insensitive. bottom line, i think what she's trying to say is: a medical professional saying it during a check up is very different than kids bullying each other on social media.

[@pmfreekick8333]

@@luc5547 Im not from US and im not common with your fat shaming problem but now I get it thanks

[@SharifZ4335]

As an obese person, ive never felt that he was calling me out or was making me feel bad about myself.

[@GriffinGal1991]

Couldn’t agree more!

[@reems4325]

Same here, in fact he actually helped me be more aware and in tune with my body

[@leonamay8776]

Yep. I've been working on getting my weight down (sometimes more and sometimes less successful but it's been going in the right direction) and I really never felt like he was disrespectful or hateful in any way.

[@lexicalgap5191]

Same! I've seen many doctors with a fatphobic attitude and Dr. Mike's is not. Could he maybe improve in his inclusive language and general wording? Sure, we all have room to grow but he's the kind of doctor that actually has in depth conversations with patients.

[@JayPlusForerunner]

Yeah same. I'm not overweight but I started to get there. Thanks to these videos im not though.

[@EmilyBemilyBop]

“He talks about watching what you eat” um yes because he’s............. a doctor.....

[@MaxWoudenberg]

Kinda feels like the people who would complain about wearing a mask :P

[@MrAlberonen]

Max lol yes

[@StutterinSeuss]

Apparently being reminded to put down the fork offends some people.

[@har1997]

Lmao exactly...the haters are so weird

[@TheyCalledMeT]

you don't need to be a doctor to say that any person on this freakn earth should have this thoughts .. ofc you can poison yourself with realy bad nutrition .. i.e. daily fast food, excessive calories and sugar .. a galon of lemonade a day .. and so on

[@javiermaldonado7120]

I feel like the main reason people are “calling him out” is because there’s a lot of people in flat out denial. There’s a good amount of people who genuinely believe that being obese has zero risks, despite all the proof against that belief, so they get angry when people bring up those risks and say they should lose weight

[@Kuzka_]

I think that, partially, such people know it's not good, but they learned to respond negatively when something would mean that they were wrong, as a defense mechanism.

[@sofirichof]

This whole video is basically “I’m not mad... just disappointed” deservingly

[@Crurned]

@@hetvi865 It is refreshingly consistent, as a healthy debate should be, backed by facts and knowledge instead of emotions.

[@-roxanna9216]

There's a difference between doctors talking about how being overweight can harm your health in a medical way, than someone who is prejudiced against big people.

[@ipsharoy7398]

Yes

[@satan9487]

people need to understand this.

[@raheeqsuhaib299]

Yup! And hey Armyy✨💜👋🏻

[@theylovemyaesthetic]

Exactly!!! Them ppl either paranoiac or just strongly uncultured and ignorant about the subject. Hes a doctor ffs

[@Yetaxa]

Not to the 'health at every size' crowd Who refuse to believe that weight can in fact have a direct impact on their health

[@chadpowell1832]

I can’t believe my doctor gave me HEALTH advice The audacity!

[@hexhurhgu6067]

XDD

[@phillipjuan8686]

lmao

[@jawstrock2215]

except in that reddit post.. he's not anyone's doctor in there XD He's giving general info most of the time...

[@valeriecarpenter7459]

A lot of doctors blame everything on weight, even when there’s symptoms of other things. That’s the real issue

[@alfa_kenny_body]

These people will watch the video and be like *"Yep confirmed fatphobe"*

[@adamel-nagar8258]

Bro, you have the patience of a saint. Like, beyond what is expected of any person ever. Imagine a decade and a half dedicating your life to medicine, just to have uneducated people condemn you for trying to help people. Damn, your patience is actually motivational for me, inspirational. Put all the actual medical topics aside, your personality and good nature has legitimately given me so much respect for you. I appreciate you, Dr.

[@notchpoodles5864]

He passed the Vibe Check

[@Emi-ee4gw]

This guy isn't even defending himself, he sees the "attack" as a chance to educate. Respect.

[@elixx1649]

Haha i ruined the no comments now theres one mwahahaha

[@JesusGonzalez-mj5fn]

Exactly 👌🏼

[@thorH.]

Bc the “attack” was a bunch of bs

[@JesusGonzalez-mj5fn]

Chelsea Kirk lmao yup

[@philip6579]

Doctor literally means “teacher,” so he’s doing what doctors always should, teach. Doing a great job at it too.

[@corbinh1477]

He is a doctor. he just wants the best life for his patients.

[@kindnessisalie5411]

ikr like wtf. Being obese is clearly unhealthy and as a doctor, he needs to treat and advise people to be more healthy. Hes not fatphobic, he just wants the best for others. Yet egotistical people on the internet thinks they are smarter than a doctor

[@glotslinget2528]

He said this in the video so...

[@SkyBooFast]

@@kindnessisalie5411 yup being fat is unhealthy, when I was fat fat, i could'nt even get up, my knee hurts, my chest feels tight sometimes, even though i am still fat today, but its better than before and I can see the changes straight away.

[@marshalravello]

@@SkyBooFast nice bro/sis! keep it up

[@yousifyounan6579]

Day phobia is not real, it's just people that don't want to lose weight. Any people that believe in fat phobia, can you please explain to me why?

[@elizabethbang1367]

I would never see him as a fatphobic person. He seems like a very caring person.

[@rubendiaz247]

He also looks like he used to be fat so he’s get experience probably

[@ChristinaMoralesMindfuqed]

Same

[@borisquince6302]

I really don't think he is fatphobic, Mike is a nice guy

[@Pharry_]

Yea my boy Mikey is just trying to help out the homies.

[@anb5203]

yeah I 100% agree he's so caring and he never said something bad and about the bypass well he was looking at a post and then he said some facts

[@kylemarkley8615]

His ability to stay calm is probably what makes him an incredible doctor while standing up to some of the dumbest claims I've ever seen. I admire his ability to have compassion when dealing with tough situations.

[@MorganKing95]

Doctors stay calm because they don't have feelings, and they've normalized infantilization and paternalism for centuries now

[@timohara7717]

​@@MorganKing95wjat

[@Daviddd8892]

​@@MorganKing95Okay incel. What's next?

[@Daviddd8892]

​@@MorganKing95in your life, silly incel.

[@Daviddd8892]

​@@MorganKing95still an incel irl.

[@Bellg]

Imagine being angry at a doctor for saying "hey kids, hot take here, being overweight is not healthy"

[@HypocritesExposd]

Belg- Fat shamer! Fatphobic! I have the freedom to choose to be fat and unhealthy! So what if he’s right! I’m outraged! For real though. Even the fatphobic made up term is cringeworthy. I’m fat and it’s ridiculous to say that. I thought being phobic means you have a fear of it. Like “I’m skinny and I have fatphobia, I’m scared to become fat.” Not “I hate far people therefore I’m fatphobic. Am I wrong there? Anyways, still an idiotic term made up there.

[@alliew31]

@Don’t be Triggered They’re trying to make it as bad as the transphobia problem. The people pushing it are either 1) in denial about their health 2) worried about the poor people who can’t speak for themselves or 3) been bullied their whole life for being healthily chubby and want an apology. Probably mostly the last category that don’t realize My 600 lb Life is actually a reality and people should be swayed away from it.

[@galaxygamer3645]

These people really wrote “DOCTOR says being obese is bad for health. I can’t believe he is fatphobic”

[@Ogree111]

It's Internet logic, we all want to die at age 30.

[@marinaSassygUrl88]

What made me burst into laughter is “ Doctor mikes tells them to “ watch what you eat” “ 😂😂💔 noo I am losing my mind smh.... how dare he advise them something so fucking right

[@BakaryD]

Reddit is pure leftist garbage

[@mettakilla]

Welcome to radical left ideology that is becoming rampant in our society. I haven't watched the full video yet, but if he apologizes, then he is only playing into their irrational ideology.

[@Ilanca]

@@mettakilla or they could be a 14 years old who only knows that calling people fat is bad. Better educate this people than label them

[@Tiffany-de9wo]

"watching what you eat" is not fatphobic. THAT IS LIFE ADVICE. Édit: mom I’m famous.

[@bluesoul1260]

@z z they think it's just about appearance and letting themselves indulge in the bad eating habits is loving themselves bc it makes them feel good. I think the "body positivity" thing is actually just abt appearance bc the hourglass skinny body is what women are pressured to achieve. Like that's the reason for the mouvement. It's bc of the pressure society puts onto people to achieve the desired body or "body goals" and it's talking abt appearance. Loving yourself genuinely imo is taking good care of yourself, eating what's best for you, getting exercise and sleep and just listening to your body's needs in general. Not just doing what makes you feel good just to then have your excuse being body positivity

[@arianamarasco2158]

“When skating, use helmet” is so concussion-phobic it makes me want to throw out 🤢

[@rango962]

I'm kinda chunky. And I try to do it but if I see a pringels can it is gone in 10 minutes. I really need to stop buying them

[@Tiffany-de9wo]

@@rango962 yes! Just don't buy unnecessary snacks! If you don't have it in your house then you wont eat it!

[@rango962]

@@Tiffany-de9wo I know that. I jsut can't control myself. I swapped all my drinks with water but I just can't resist does nasty little cans of hot and spicy pringels. They are like the one ring. I dotn want it, I don't need it but I don't want to stop. However, I'm starting to do some sports, push ups and jogging to lsoe a bit of weight. Becuase not buying pringels is like not buying alcohol for and heavy alcoholic

[@ItsShatter]

I’ve had the same Primary Care doctor for over a decade now. He’s fantastic, super nice, non judgmental, and really advocates for me. He was one of the first people to mention that I could work on losing some weight when I headed into the overweight territory (BMI of 26 or so). Thankfully this intervention led to some lifestyle changes that allowed me to get back to a healthy weight. We talked about my diet and I learned how many calories the granola I was eating every morning packed on. All this to say, if you have a good doctor that cares about you, they SHOULD bring up weight if your BMI starts going into the overweight territory and you are not an obvious muscle head.

[@stickthelanding4785]

He’s a doctor telling us to be healthy is literally his job and he cares for us.

[@Hgvdiggs2725]

Exactly

[@yakuzzi35]

He is a loving God, but not forgiving

[@darthdicnbalz]

You'd think that would be obvious.

[@Torns]

literally

[@Benjamin-1776]

@@yakuzzi35 Excuse you?

[@eviegarciaaa]

if i went to my local doctor because i was morbidly obese and they said “no don’t worry about it you’re beautiful” i would be very concerned

[@stansman5461]

Probably because it's beneficial as a business to have people be obese and then come with much more problems. Although it's scummy

[@kingvincentarchcravenxiii1141]

Are you holding a knife?

[@Jaminux]

obese people can still look beautiful, so i really hope you're not implying that they're ugly. however, i agree that a doctor shouldn't dismiss problems that are very obviously there, especially if a patient comes in for help with said problem edit: PLEASE stop replying to this, it's a year old and i won't respond anymore, go do something better than talk to a brick wall

[@xqy4888]

@@Jaminux if you are obese, go do some sports and eat healthy stuff. the results will come with time. also, if you think that being obese is a normal thing then you are an absolute, uneducated, misleading, disgrace to humanity.

[@pennyw2226]

Sabih Shahid most doctors don’t care about the money, they just want to help people.

[@NatashaRoesner]

Since when is “watching what you eat” fatphobic? You can be skinny and still be recommended to watch what you eat. It’s not always about your physique but about your overall health

[@LouiWoodman]

Solid point right here. Every time I get a check up or a doctor asks about my diet and what I eat/drink, I am always told I need to eat better and drink better, and that's me being "too skinny". Also it's so odd that this is what people think is fat phobic and his smoking example was good but also dentists always say the whole less sugar and acid stuff but nobody is out here with half of their teeth missing due to cavities complaining about dentists telling them they should work on improving their diet so the few teeth they have left don't rot away.

[@maixe13]

Exactly. Just because I am skinny does not mean I am healthy.

[@spaces3345]

💯

[@kuromilvr1013]

Natasha Roesner !!

[@anumehabhukya5389]

Exactly.....a person can still have many metabolic problems if there diet isn’t well regulated ...they might look skinny on the outside but they would be suffering with so many problems as they get older, what’s worse is that nobody would see that coming in such a person, like if a person is visibly fat one will observe that they need to careful , but when a person is skinny it’s even harder to discern whether he or she is actually healthy....the motive should be to stay healthy...I support you Dr.mike

[@petofiarkwright3236]

I'm not exactly fat, but my bmi says overweight, so I really appreciate Dr. Mike caring so much for the patients. I would love doctors to treat people like... well people. Just like dr. Mike. Thank you ❤

[@hivavlogs3255]

Bruh, he’s a doctor. It’s his job to teach people to be healthy

[@senza4591]

Bruh that fake check lmao But yeah i agree

[@mihailnikolovski]

The comment checks out to the actual good comment section section

[@BlueScreenOfDeathPL]

They don’t want people to die - They are deathphobic! But seriously, if you don’t trust doctors ask them for background. Ask them why they think something is a problem and discuss it. People who want to be always reassured will never develop and it applies to every “internet truth”.

[@monkelove5725]

arham_ hahah yeah that fake check

[@tessajones9393]

That's not true. For example they're not trained in nutrition which is massive for our health

[@benlee5039]

I'd rather be slapped with the truth than being kissed with a sugar-coated lie.

[@some_icedtea5205]

Clearly alot of sugar

[@Natasha-il7gz]

Exactly!!!

[@reluctant4611]

@@some_icedtea5205 😳

[@biggyd336]

@@some_icedtea5205 this man woke up and chose violence

[@TessG9107]

I wanna post this on a wall or something. "I'd rather be slapped with the truth than being kissed with a sugar-coated lie." - Ben Lee

[@LillySty]

I feel like there is a point in this that wasn‘t quite clear enough: He doesn‘t want you to lose weight because you‘re fat. He wants you to lose weight because the risks for certain health problems are so much higher if you‘re obese. Yes, you can be obese and live a healthy lifestyle, you can exercise, eat well, take good care of your body. But being at a healthy weight (not „skinny“, healthy.) still lowers certain health risks.

[@snigdhaprakash6485]

Exactly thank you ♥️♥️

[@BrianaLynn7]

nobody cares if you're healthy though, just SKINNY. Thats why they take one look at you and judge you. THey don't ask what you eat and determine if its healthy. They just want you SMALLER.

[@justsomestuff1513]

@@BrianaLynn7 but that's not Dr. Mike. We are talking about him here but you are right for other people.

[@jaz1756]

Yes. I wish Dr Mike emphasised this more

[@avoicecallingout7487]

Yes! And also you can be fat (according to your own standards, like not as skinny as you wish to be or whatever fat means for each indivudual), and doctors actually consider you to fall within a healthy weight. They would never tell you to lose weight in these kinds of situations.

[@jamesgadd8440]

Dr. Mike, this may be an old video, but it's my first time seeing it. I used to weigh over 400 lbs. Im now down to just over 200 lbs. I have personally dealt with fat phobic people, and I've also had to come to terms with the dangers of being so big. You're an amazing educator, and I have never once seen anything that comes close to fat phobia or hate. Keep rocking, brother.

[@douglasguzman2622]

The man is a doctor, of course he’s gonna promote healthy lifestyle and eating habits . It’s not fatphobic to say being overweight has health risks.

[@noahmaruschak5823]

As someone who is fat and dieting I completely agree with him.

[@samiraansari5686]

Hmmm...I agree, but they do have a point that some of the diets he has tried out here are quite extreme and often lead to people developing eating disorders. Something like keto, for example, ist often practiced by people who don‘t understand the risks in unsafe ways and his videos did not really deal with that as much as they could have. So I can see the angle of: Maybe a popular KZbin doctor shouldn’t be trying these because people will carelessly imitate him. Of course that doesn‘t mean he‘s fatphobic and I understand why he‘s done these videos- I just fear that they might do more harm than good.

[@otakutrash-zp7vs]

@@samiraansari5686 hes not promoting those diets he dose them because people are curious and ask him to smh

[@latisamedic7303]

Noah Maruschak sane I’ve gotten big and I know it’s unhealthy people need to get the stick out of their asses he’s not fatphobic for calling obese unhealthy as it is

[@latisamedic7303]

otakutrash13 14 exactly he does it to inform not promote

[@emilyb3875]

What is fat shaming: “if you’re fat and happy you are a TERRIBLE INFLUENCE and you should be MISERABLE and hide from social media until you lose weight” What is not fat shaming: “Having an obese/morbidly obese BMI has some health risks, and everyone should care about their nutrition”

[@finleybriggs-webb4158]

I think the issue is that the parameters for "obese" are really vague, and BMI doesn't take anything but height and weight into account. For example I am technically considered obese, but I am a size 10 and have perfect blood pressure and am considered extremely healthy by the doctor I go to. Obese doesn't necessarily mean unhealthy, but it can in some cases.

[@guillemmoreno5522]

@@finleybriggs-webb4158 Then you're not obese.

[@nt78stonewobble]

@@finleybriggs-webb4158 BMI is and always has been an approximation... a rule of thumb... If the BMI gives a warning sign and you're not eg. muscular, you go have a talk with your doctor about it, who then takes that more comprehensive look at your weight and overall health and then if you're in good health as you, they'll probably tell you not to worry about it.

[@jaisotheunfathomablybased7135]

@@finleybriggs-webb4158 he said in the video that it takes more than just looking at the number on a scale but the person as well

[@aparna2701]

@@finleybriggs-webb4158 BMI fails to be accurate mostly only in people who have a lot of muscle mass. If you're 400lbs and you're not a powerlifter or something, then BMI obviously is right when it says you're morbidly obese.

[@rk-wq2wb]

people don’t realize that when he says he wants to help people be “happy and healthy” he isn’t saying he wants to make them have a “bikini body.” he wants to help them lost weight so they can be at a healthy weight. not once does he say “skinny is healthy” because it’s not. a healthy weight is a healthy weight. you don’t need to be skinny to be healthy. you need to be at a healthy weight to be healthy.

[@dongsicheng170]

Wow you're completely right. At this point, I think it deals with the person mindset and their correlation to the standards on society's perspective of "beauty" which they may believe is being skinny. Therefore, a simple inoffensive comment may come across as attacking when it's actually harmless and now dependent on how a person dissects it.

[@lorddoge2268]

This is true right here

[@NajwyzszaKaplanka]

exactly people dont understand than when he is talking about weight loss he isnt doing it from estetical point of view but health point of view

[@lynnboartsdye1943]

PREACH MY COMMENTER!!!

[@kazimierzuu]

People think that's only 0-1 type of situation. Fit or fat. And it really isn't.

[@sunshinedaydream147]

I’ve been overweight my whole life and I’ve never met or seen a dr with this much compassion toward commenting on overweight/obese people. He’s working to educate so we are comfortable to come to physicians for help. Thank you Dr. Mike❤ working to break all medical stigmas

[@yoda4269]

When he doesn't say pee-woop, you know it's serious. But when he doesn't even smile you know it's really really serious :(

[@jeff4762]

He hasn't been saying it for a few videos now..

[@urafaget5202]

@@jeff4762 Literally last video bruh

[@eatingdreams2075]

It’s disgusting how people treat him, he only means well for others and yet he had to make this video. Show more love please.

[@jeff4762]

@@urafaget5202 I meant theres been several videos in the past where he didnt say it.

[@GraceReport]

It's really disturbing that someone would call you fatphobic for encouraging people to watch what they eat (i.e. eat healthily).

[@CrkdCrayzirr]

That’s what I’m sauong

[@zoeherriot]

People will literally argue they are healthy when they are clearly overweight, and that it's possible to continue being healthy while being so. They misunderstand that it's playing the odds, and the odds are stacked against them if they are overweight.

[@yosutzuhruoj]

@@zoeherriot Obese people are pretty much like toddlers, they like to be coddled. It's basic laziness and they'll never change until they're faced with their mortality.

[@lukeflaherty4806]

I swear if he didn’t warn people about obesity the same people would claim that he’s not doing his job properly

[@binabaneen8741]

Periodt 😂

[@bethykennedy8662]

It's considered medically negligent not to inform people of a condition that is affecting their health

[@VictorDude98]

If he didn't tell people to try to be healthy I wouldn't listen to his advice actually

[@jadebethj]

Exactly. There's no way to win with people.

[@bleechrcreechrr]

No they wouldn't. The people complaining are "fat acceptance" people. They're fat and don't want to be told it's unhealthy.

[@bellanita]

I'm obese, I have a ton of illnesses because of this but I have lost 30kg and my health has improved. Even though I've done so well almost all medical professionals I see (including my long term gp) blames any illness I get including the flu on my weight even during flu season when everyone gets it. I'd love to have gastric surgery but can't afford it. I've never gotten the impression that you are fatphobic, just advocating things that will help people to lose weight for better health. Keep doing what your doing.

[@hazanbayraktar2880]

‘this person doesn’t deserve a good life because they are overweight’ -fatphobia ‘this person’s weight can compromise the life and health they deserve’ -concern based on science

[@cowonaboat5795]

Where’s my Bible and Jesus’s phone number because you are preaching

It's not that they dont deserve it's that they WONT get it because they are fat. If they want to be loved or stop being made fun of they can get fit, but instead decide to continue obese and complaim about people not respecting them

[@hazanbayraktar2880]

@ see you’re just being fatphobic because someone’s state of health or weight is not a measure of how much they deserve respect. if you’re saying they need to lose weight to be respected, then you’re just a bad human being.

[@roslyn-rose124]

@ I mean if you ignore eating disorders and other medical conditions(physical or mental) that make people gain weight or have a hard time losing weight if you ignore all that then yea you're right

[@Lunaskylette]

Denied, her 1 hr research on “love your body even if it’s killing you” clearly trumps all science duhhh 😂

[@ahnstykes9851]

as a med student who was overweight once, it actually hurts me to see that everyone thinks doctors are fatphobic

[@kingmuizz708]

Exactly the same here,I was chubby and I started to lose weight and felt a million times better. I'm in my second year of med school too!

[@Yourstrulyamy1]

People are hurt and insecure that's why. Just a bunch of snowflakes who expect the world to change for them and do better rather then being THE change and doing better for yourself and the people around you.

[@sany678]

Ikr.I feel majority of people are fat cuz they are lazy, and they just shift blame on others. Btw I'm lazy and overweight but I know it's cuz of me not cuz humanity invented fried chicken and potao chips LMFAO

[@8LyJu8]

Besides the long term effects of not having a proper diet

[@Claudia-hr5ei]

I'm fat and there are fatphobic doctors out there but I don't feel they are in the majority. If I go to the doctor and speak about something that could very well be related to my weight I'm totally fine with them bringing it up or if I go to a checkup. I mean the whole point of the checkup is to talk about my overall condition. But I don't want to talk about my weight when I'm there with something acute that is not related to my weight when I know the doctor already. So if I'm there because I have an infected wound I don't want an assessment of my weight but if I'm at the gyno and they tell me I have high blood pressure than yeah absolutely do, that's the doctor's job. Just show a little compassion. So I don't get this criticism here either because as an obese person I never felt doctor Mike being fatphobic. I also don't get what's wrong with intermittent fasting. It's not for every one but for some people it works incredibly well to manage their calorie intake.

[@Snackery24]

“I’ve never watched his videos” Proceeds to defame and discredit him.

[@GarnetsWeb]

Right. The world gets dumber by the day.

[@Jaros]

Tbf that point was specifically that they know he did videos about certain diets but hasn't watched those so can't comment on them, not that they've never seen his videos full stop.

[@sarahamaris5383]

Jessica right but it’s basically an irrelevant statement and makes their argument weaker lol

[@real_lampcap]

Literally. Like wtf. You can't even say anything if you've never watched.

[@zoev2051]

@@sarahamaris5383 Not really, they conceded that they didn't know his stance on a particular topic. Keto, IF, etc. are all diets which that subreddit - a subreddit for many people recovering from eating disorders - was against. The fact that he tried these diets is a supporting point in the post because it can be triggering for people recovering from eating disorders, many of whom would hope that a doctor wouldn't advertise them. I'm not taking a stance against Doctor Mike, but the feelings the poster had were valid considering the location of the post and the mention of those videos didn't weaken the argument at all.

[@Dredan143]

That first person sounds like one of those people who just thinks acknowledging that being overweight can be unhealthy is fat phobic

[@reformed_attempt_1]

Exactly. Before going through the arguments, one has to make sure they have the right definition of "fatphobic".

[@bringbackbomber7io110]

Why do some people act like having a high amount of fat isn't a detriment to your health? He just wants people to be healthy.

[@consultantadanemarca2132]

Because of political correctness. I am fat, I don't like it, but I do not mind if someone points it out. If there is someone who says that fat is healthy....get your facts in order. I don't sleep well, I can not move well, i get tired very quickly and I am "just" 10-12 kg overweight. In some more years doctors won't be allowed to tell you that you have cancer, because it will hurt your feelings.

[@nmoomoo]

Consultanta Danemarca not just being pc but because of the fat-shaming that can come with it, even from doctors

[@Lindseyisloony]

It's because some people only achieve body positivity through denial. That is the #1 reason right there. A lot of fat people are completely aware of the very real health risks that come with being over weight and for some of them that makes it really hard not go through life hating that extra weight. Some fat people want so badly to feel good about their bodies that they strive for body positivity in the most mentally (and physically) unhealthy way possible, which is denial. This denial is a process that usually starts by looking for other fat people who have already achieved some level of body positivity. They observe these people and weed out the ones that take the "body positive while working to be healthier" approach because having to address the health aspect gets in the way of the goal. They then start focusing on fellow fat people who adamantly insist that they are perfectly healthy and who tend to cite bogus medical articles as their justification. Body positivity without denial DOES exist but only when people have psychologically healthy reasons behind it. People who just want to be told that they aren't actually unhealthy so that they can feel good about what they see in the mirror are the people who throw around "fatphobic" and insist that anybody who claims to care about their health is a liar who just hates fat people. Their friends and family can have been expressing concern for their health for years but as soon as they achieve unhealthy "body positivity" through denial they suddenly accuse those friends and family of just hating fat people. It's a really big problem that's becoming more and more common as more and more false information is spread. It's very unfortunate that this problem has also started to fuel the misconception that all fat people are in denial and just don't care about their health when that's not true at all.

[@jaydeo7850]

My friend has already had a heart attack, but I'm scared to tell him to eat better because he'll think I'm judging him. I live in obese state so I'm actually seen as pretentious for caring about my own health in the first place.

@@consultantadanemarca2132 that has nothing to do with political correctness. they just are feeling shitty about their size in society and the body positive movement is an excuse to give up and not try anymore and since it has gotten so much popularity they stay reinforced with their believes. no political supports obesity. this isn't political. just idiots who don't want to admit they need help or feel like it won't change how other people see them.

[@humanatee6639]

Calling someone “morbidly obese” means “you should lose some weight for your health”, not “haha ur fat!”.

[@demi0758]

I love this because this actually shows how people psychologically respond to things they do not want to hear...

[@Northflowo]

Especially when it's coming from a MEDICAL PROFESSIONAL Like i get that people could get upset if some random person or even a family member with no medical knowledge called them that, but a doctor??? binch that's a medical term not a slur

[@Nick07900]

I think people are just in denial that is unhealthy. You wouldn't get mad at a doctor for telling you that any other disease is unhealthy. Then again, it's just how our brain's are wired, you can't blame them.

[@SuperKing604]

True it can be both also and i get people feeling put down by it but truth is needed especially from a doctor

[@ayoayo1044]

@@Nick07900 ive seen so many people upset about it and in denial and its just mind boggling

[@winnie3732]

I can't believe people are canceling A DOCTOR with a DEGREE for saying "being obese is unhealthy" smh

[@lakshyamongia3270]

Very similar to flat earthers cancelling scientists and astrphysicists. Where do these people come from?

[@winnie3732]

@@lakshyamongia3270 I totally agree! It's crazy!!

[@asmokun]

@@lakshyamongia3270 probably the same states and cities as antivaxx parrnts

[@BearKookieKusu]

Lol you have anti-vaxxers telling DOCTORS to “do their research “

[@winnie3732]

@@BearKookieKusu IKR!!

[@Aadams700]

As someone struggling with weight the way you talked in this video made things much easier to understand. I wish more doctors took an approach like you do

[@PrettybuoyJones1992]

I can tell that the comment really bothered him,he seems like a really nice and caring guy. ..

[@maxfimbres8661]

He really is tho like he makes docters for common problems pretty free

[@d8a489]

He is

[@hkr667]

He is bothered because if those posts get traction then that will directly result in bad health and ultimately people dying sooner.

[@JKLoans]

It really seemed like it bothered him; and, I hope he doesn't get discouraged. Because, truthfully, he has been an amazing resource when it comes to our collective understanding of medical issues, our rights as patients and the ethics of medical professionals.

[@zahraa-ld3yg]

He is a nice and caring guy :)

[@LabRynthisist]

Imagine calling a DOCTOR FATPHOBIC cause he promotes HEALTHY lifestyle.

[@jacob1931]

Ikr

[@kathlens182]

Exactly my thought!

[@haydenbrayton]

Im just picturing these reddit losers fuming behind a computer

[@rosealbert7480]

I hear you, but just to play devils advocate, a lot of fat people hear this again and again from people who don’t know anything about their lifestyle. I just think there’s a possibility that this person just took it personally because maybe they’ve heard it before from people who aren’t actually knowledgeable and since he’s not their doctor, they felt like he made blanket statements (which may or may not be true, I haven’t seen many of his lifestyle type videos). Like I said, just playing devils advocate

[@juanmanuelmoramontes3883]

@@rosealbert7480 Well, lemme tell you he's only suggested healthy diets/alimentation, nothing related with "skinny" or "fit" I'm sorry, if I sound rude, but even if it were like u say, it doesn't give those people the right to be so butthurt.

[@12345themadguy]

Its almost like he is a doctor and knows that being overweight is bad for health, crazy

[@gabrieldiezdiez8650]

people be like: i have not fucking studies but surely i now more about health than a doctor

[@nickbyrwa9188]

Gabriel Díez Díez “he posted about this but even tho i never watched it im still gonna judge him for it”

[@2silver144]

ikr crazy dude

[@bruhmoment-bo1mb]

Yeah bro, it almost like, he has like, a degree or something dude, like, don't you know that, like, Facebook is better than, like, doctors and scientists dude? Like, bro is so dumb to like, study to help people and like, better their lifes dude.

[@caleyholland7601]

Nick Byrwa yeah, why would anyone do that? (not saying you did btw)

[@ubelmensch]

Honestly, I do not have your patience and angelic disposition to deal with this kind of "commentary" in a polite manner. It's really admirable

[@anjaliawasthi5776]

There's a difference between being "fatphobic" & being "concern about patient's health"(physically & mentally)

[@MatthewMilton]

Mike should I quit youtube my friends keep making fun of me for it

[@goldenrosepetals5026]

@@MatthewMilton then that means they aren't your friends

[@xlivegeneration2681]

Matt Milton no keep going you already have a large viewership and at least make a video before you quit

[@shinthia1552]

Matt Milton you shouldn’t give up

[@churchillwang4269]

Matt Milton Bruh these people don’t deserve to have you as a friend if that’s the case

[@lacudafrost]

Overweight person here: My doctor reminds me every time I see him that I need to be exercising at least 30 mins a day with a raised heartrate. Eating healthier. Little things like that. He's a great doctor. We expect doctors to be honest with us. What are they gonna do? Stick their finger up your butt and compliment your colon instead of telling you about the lump? I've never thought people telling me I didn't need to lose weight were being nice or even being good, considerate friends. I'm 6'3, 315 lbs normally. Currently at 305. I appreciate Doctor Mike and doctors like him. We need more like him.

[@TheOne-Aslan]

My doctor is blunt but compassionate at the same time with that kind of stuff.

[@mostafaabdulkarim9176]

Finally, someone who understands that compliments for obesity are bad. It's like telling an alcoholic they're more fun when they drink.

[@AG-fv1ko]

Some doctors actually need to be blunt sometimes. Like Mike said, adherence is an art that has been perfected yet. No doctor can force you or anyone for that matter to lose weight. I myself probably wouldn't take the advice so seriously if it was just another friendly reminder to do some exercise daily, cause that just lessens my view on the severity of the situation. We are talking about a condition that can not only shorten your lifespan, but also effect your participation in the things you love doing.

[@noahthewolfking9428]

@@mostafaabdulkarim9176 Great comparison.👍

[@mandi3891]

I'm personally not comfortable around "blunt" doctors. Obesity is a big problem and most obese people need a lot of support to loose weight. Some need mental help, some need regular check-ins, some need help with learning about nutrition. Every obese people has their own problems that need to be solved before they can succesfully loose weight. I personally have felt that more blunt doctors don't see me as an individual. I know what I should eat, I don't need to be reminded to eat more vegetables. I'm a lot more comfortable with a doctor who asks me how I feel about my weight and what kind of help I think I need.

[@evansun3406]

Whoever wrote this post's logic: Dr. Mike says being healthy is good ---> Dr. Mike is scared of fat people

[@jacksonwang8130]

Sums it up

[@EmanoTM]

Sadly enough, people who feel victims of their own lives, of their own conducts; tend to project their responsibility.

[@WMDistraction]

A lot of the “fatphobic” BS comes from thinking that there’s literally *nothing* wrong with being overweight or obese, so anyone telling them to lose weight is “fatphobic.” It seems to be a willful ignorance of the massive amounts of evidence supporting having a relatively “normal” weight for good long-term health. Following this logic, doctors are also apparently cholesterol-phobic, cancer-phobic, and smoking-phobic.

[@sirflimflam]

For real, what the hell? Because Dr. Mike mentioned obesity and watching what you eat, it's is some sort of fatphobic propaganda? He's a doctor! Of course he's going to mention these things. I really don't understand people sometimes.

[@mannycampos6885]

@@WMDistraction unhealthy phobic

[@trabbit2332]

Imagine wanting what is better for people and then getting hate for that.

[@MorganKing95]

Paternalism and infantilization are not desirable practices

[@Daviddd8892]

​@@MorganKing95okay, incel.

[@whatisgoingon505]

@@MorganKing95explain?

[@Valentina-zw7um]

why is everyone looking to cancel him like he’s a doctor and being overweight and obese has risks. Duh he’s going to say watch what you eat...

[@Un1234l]

Social media gave a loud voice and mass congregation to the idiots.

[@thebullet437]

Welcome to the real internet.

[@joynyaga7923]

exactly

[@jildou_m6220]

Excactly! I mean he is a doctor after all.

[@donb7519]

these people deny that thats true they call stuff like that conspiracies by the medical industry or that they cant know for sure its related to being obese

[@Denizyarsuvat]

A doctor: "Watch what you eat" People who are obviously not doctors: "it goes to show that even doctors can learn a lot in their own fields"

[@DARTH-R3VAN]

Karens with short blue hair in general.

[@lambgaming1347]

@@DARTH-R3VAN yeah

[@saveyoutub]

Anyone that makes fun, good-hearted videos that promote healthy living (buff-dude or woman) are people we need more of in this world and the negativity is a never ending rip current. Fighting it my friend will cause you to drown. Just like with a rip tide you need to pick a side to swim to and then swim in when it's gone, and only respond to the audience that knows you better than this. Sure, clear your name but the haters will never go away, enjoy your vids

[@LaraVlach]

Doctors can learn a lot in their own fields. So can people in a lot of other fields. Doctor Mike agreed with this statement in the video. Initial medical training isn’t all encompassing, professionals should spend their careers continuously learning, as they are confronted with new challenges and because the field evolves constantly. I quite like Doctor Mike, and still feel he could still continue to learn about working with fat people and considering our bodies from a health at every size perspective. Not because his way is inherently or always wrong, or because I think he’s fatphobic, but because there are other approaches and considerations about obesity. There are a growing number of people who are living fat and healthy. He would do well to talk with an actual fat person/fat health advocate about this.

[@karthikrox6310]

@@LaraVlach fat at all sizes is complete BS

[@direprongs8781]

As a fat woman, I've never seen fat shaming here. He has never pushed anything for medical advice and legally he cannot because of different body types, health and nutritional needs etc. Whoever wrote this is just trying to stab at someone.

[@emilyb6541]

Same here, I agree!

[@JLynnEchelon]

To be honest, I don't see it either. I haven't seen every video, but my one issue is that not everyone coming in is looking for a holistic assessment of their health. To use the smoker example, yes, it's a huge health risk, but if a smoker comes in with a broken leg and the first thing the doctor wants to talk about is how many cigarettes the person smokes per day, it's just adding insult to injury. Can we deal with the immediate concern first?

[@noemirios7902]

@@JLynnEchelon well smoking delays healing, and its been proven that smoking is bad for your bones, especially in women who are prone to osteoporosis.

[@ineskleene5610]

I am also obese and I totally agree! He always watches his words very well and every time he talks about obesity etc. he is being very professional and sees/explains everything from a medical view. I have never felt attacked by him, but only educated.

[@9051team]

@@JLynnEchelon does doctor mike do that? I dont remember him doing that.

[@Lizharmeling]

I’m a registered dietitian and I agree with every single point and explanation Dr. Mike provides in this video. Fat-phobia aside, both biologically and statistically, a morbidly obese status DOES increase risk for various diseases and health complications, which we are trying to clearly communicate to everyone. And as he said, the field of nutrition sciences is insanely complex and highly individualized to each patient and their lifestyle. He hit it right on the nail when he mentioned adherence. Society by default assumes we all have the same health goals in mind, but that’s why patient centered care is SO crucial since it allows for them to strive for what they truly desire in a sustainable, realistic way without any shame or judgment.

[@woolyvaro7814]

As a formerly obese person (110 pounds down), I can say that I also used to feel like people/doctors were insulting me/being "fatphobic", when they told me I needed to lose weight, but that mostly came from me not wanting to admit that I had a problem with overeating...because I didn't want to stop. Chronic backpain is gone, walking isn't exhausting and my circulatory problems have been much less frequent. Who could have known? Oh right, my doctors.

[@MeanMan444]

And then instead of publicizing people like you, all we hear about is that obese people's feelings got hurt, because they were told they need to lose weight to be healthy.

[@MeanMan444]

@V King that is actually a very interesting way to look at this; at least part of the problem to me seems to be, that a lot of people with such problems choose to be in denial, since it is mich easier, than admitting there is a problem and doing something about it. Seems like they learn to live with the problem and make it a part of their identity, at which point trying to point out to them, that what they are doing is wrong leads to being accused of personally attacking them

[@InevitableUniverse]

Dude good job!!!

[@woolyvaro7814]

@V King wouldn't even say it's necessarily about the food or eating. I'd say I am addicted to the happiness i connected with eating. I ate junk food whenever I felt sad, bored or just dissatisfied with life, and it made me feel a little better. I have to be very conscious about what I eat, otherwise I fall back into my old eating patterns. So yeah, telling me what makes me "happy" is wrong, felt like a personal attack in a way.

[@meretriciousinsolent]

@@woolyvaro7814 our behaviour around food is so connected to other things. I think for a lot of people, the reasons behind the weight gain need to be investigated. It could be medical. It could be emotional, behavioural, a lot of things. I think we still don't know enough about it. There are theories about gut biome, about the effect c sections have on that, about breastfeeding vs bottle feeding and the impact that can have too. Research and knowledge are emerging all the time. I'm really glad your back pain is gone, and that you were able to do that yourself. I think it can be really hard for people to lose weight and that's something that needs to be tailored individually, if people are ready to do it. There's so much shame around our bodies that needs to be unpacked too.

[@baydenlit8875]

people are acting like saying obesity is not healthy is an insult Edit: btw im not shaming anyone who is overweight i would never shame someone because of how fat the are im just saying that saying somebody is so overweight that it could possibly effect their life is not a good thing and when a doctor say you're over weight take that as a warning because they just want you to be fit and healthy.

[@vic.mann1]

It hurts their fEeLiNgS

[@xxes11xx]

because they are insulted - when people cannot handle the truth, they get insulted.... and it's even more pathetic when they are insulted by something that is inherently true.... being fat is not good for you and your longevity, that's that.

[@bowwow8620]

Acting like they’re the most oppressed group of people on this planet

[@jocelyngarcia8110]

Finally, someone said it!

[@wonderlust1308]

@Victor and facts don’t care about fEeLiNgS

[@aqilhizam4073]

“He’s fat phobic because he said ‘watch what you eat’” THEN WHAT DO YOU WANT HIM TO SAY, “eat whatever you want and don’t care about your cholesterol, sugar levels and others”???

[@Skytho]

yes, because that hurts the guilty brain that wants to live in blissful ignorance.

[@Violettahh]

Right

[@bennypika3575]

"eat whatever you want and die whenever you want"

[@ovrdedge821]

Idk why i laughed so hard at this 😂😂

[@NathanielSnider1017]

If they want to die a slow, painful death and refuse all doctoral help just let them

[@ximenabriceno9253]

Dr.Mike is the real deal, I wish there were more doctors like him who care so much about their patients that he’s willing to have the hard conversations. 🙌🏽

[@alyssastclaire]

I love people who say “I haven’t watched this, but I’m going to have an opinion on it anyway.” You’re proud to be so.... purposefully uneducated?

[@LexieLouLou]

So many people are very proud of their ignorance. They just repeat something they read on social media like it's fact.

[@tonybs03]

well, humans.

[@pforgottonsoul]

i personally believe that you shouldn't be forming opinions unless you know what you're talking about.

[@lelrond]

I think in this case it was more of a "to be fair"- kind of statement. The reddit post as such wasn't formulated all that offensively tbh.

[@NyssasOrbit]

I mean..if they did watch it, they probably wouldn't be making idiotic comments, lmao

[@garfieldlover6853]

The fact that he even had to make this video is insane

[@fr.Angel21]

The fact that he responded a Redditor.

[@Kinobambino]

Now I'm thinking if it's possible there are troll comments on reddit 🤔

[@thisguyispeculiar]

True but it does help in addressing this issue. The issue of people complaining about doctors that is.

[@4twenny]

@@fr.Angel21 free content why wouldnt he

[@axelfoley1406]

It just shows you how weak, pathetic and thin skinned our society has become. Everyone wants to be coddled. Nobody wants to be held accountable for their own actions.

[@ElementalLeaf]

I can't believe Dr Mike has to deal with this... A doctor promoting a healthy lifestyle, that shouldn't be controversial

[@giovannitorres9281]

neither should be wearing a mask but people just like to bring up it takes away my rights.

[@cheesecakelasagna]

'Murica, amirite?

[@beepbeep3575]

@@cheesecakelasagna not even, me nor my 27 brothers put up with that stupidity.

[@teaganmccluskey8644]

Yeah how is that at all a problem, like if you pay a doctor for healthcare, they are going to help you be as healthy as possible

[@arthillidan1905]

@@beepbeep3575 this is the best joke i have heared this whole week i salute you murica 28

[@hamishpaterson2413]

Dr Mike talks sense and the truth, from a medical and logical perspective. Some people don’t like hearing the truth! BMI is a dangerous measurement tool but is sadly quoted all to often.

[@gustavorochavillela6323]

I love the irony of random ppl on the internet trying to “educate” a doctor on medicine related topics

[@octogintillion]

Yes, and since they're right, the doctor is the one that needs learn more.. 🙄

[@binns2746]

Why go to the doctor in the first place when they already know better than the doctor smh

[@lenagrace3949]

@zarK I’m pretty sure that’s sarcasm

[@lenagrace3949]

*@zharK

[@dirkspotproductions3834]

I’m on the fence with this. Do I find it okay for random people to be telling a doctor they’re wrong? No, not really. But does this mean the doctor is always right? No. The last time I was seen by a doctor, he asked me when my last period was. I’m obese and have irregular periods. Usually, I get a period once or twice a year. Been that way for a long time and no other doctor I saw didn’t find it alarming. But this guy, a professional doctor, told me if I was pregnant and kept pushing that thought on me. “Are you sure you’re not pregnant?” No, sir. I’m a Virgin and have never even kissed a guy, let alone touch one sexually. I was nineteen at the time and so many people find it alarming to see someone my age not sexually active... on top of that, I’ve had doctors put their own opinion on me. Whenever I get sick and cough really bad, I use the Z pack which helps and generally takes it away within a week. One doctor I saw told me that it doesn’t work and prescribed me a bunch of medicine that took three times as long to heal. And finally, my sister has a heart condition and was seen by over a dozen doctors who took every test in the beginning. She couldn’t walk or stand, threw up every five minutes, and she fainted like three times a day. For a whole year, none of the doctors at the hospital knew what to do and told her that’s it’s all in her head and she should stop stressing out and take aspirin. She moved to another state and her boyfriend took her to another hospital where a year later after all that, they found out what was wrong with her and treated her correctly. So yeah... some doctors shouldn’t be in the medical field.

[@MyJustMeLol]

Imagine having to explain that being obese is unhealthy

[@Surfing566]

This is the point we have come too.

[@rihanna7092]

It is unhealthy though-

[@diamond09162]

Christina Winther Lolk what does the left have to do with this?

[@orange_orange1985]

Christina Winther Lolk wtf are u talking about..

[@SnekkySnek]

@@ChristinaWintherLolk why yes, everything has to boil down to politics...

[@Sly-Moose]

"He's talked about obesity." I'm sorry, I didn't know saying the word obese was suddenly banned.

[@Sir_Jordan2032]

Redditor took that personally

[@luisazambrano1091]

Apparently it is... and even Registered Dietitians (the ones who are anti diet, and healthy at all sizes, etc) don't say it because they might offend someone. So ridicoulous.

[@Rinssi_from_Finland]

You need to update your info.

[@tvaholicsquidney]

yeah apparently in today's society you can't say a single thing just in case you offend someone, I corrected someone on a youtube comment and I got someone trying to bully me because they didn't like me telling someone that they was in correct even though I gave an example of why this person was incorrect, the original person never responded back to me but this bully did

[@Sly-Moose]

@@tvaholicsquidney This is stupid. People these days are too sensitive.

[@kristincrisher7963]

I am overweight and recently motivated to do something about it. It can be a difficult subject if you aren't in a place to hear or talk about the issue. That doesn't make the person discussing it fatphobic. I appreciate Dr. Mike and his open and honest conversation on all topics. I wish more doctors practiced medicine like him.

[@billytessio6326]

It's ok Mike. These are the same people who called Adele fatphobic for losing weight. They just want people to be miserable like them.

[@fe.rya.lazeem]

110% agreed

[@NikoboiNFTB]

Lmao they really said that lol

[@lancejohnson3278]

@@NikoboiNFTB it was more framed around her being a hypocrite as a person that was body-type positive and then had the audacity to go lose a bunch of weight, but yeah pretty much, ridiculous

[@jae4427]

@@lancejohnson3278 Wow. How dare she want to feel healthy and beautiful in her own body? Shameful! 🙄

[@laya1901]

@@lancejohnson3278 as if being body positive and wanting to lose weight weren't compatible 🤦🏻‍♀️

[@QwerAsdf-vs8pz]

Doctors telling you things you don’t want to hear because they’re true, doesn’t make them fat-phobic, it just makes you, health-phobic.

[@Probly]

Oh it all makes sense now, she’s fat and she doesn’t like to admit it or admit that it impacts her health. What a moron honestly

[@QwerAsdf-vs8pz]

Probly Not: I don’t think calling people morons is gonna help the situation. They’re not a moron, they’re emotional, being emotional means you make mistakes, but making mistakes doesn’t make you a moron.

[@RyushiroK]

makes them fat-centric rather. Anything said that mentions the unhealthiness of being overweight is wholly discarded, even if it's from dozens of renowned physicians, doctors, nutritionists, etc. Anything said that says being overweight is fine and healthy is instantly accepted, even if it's from the random homeless person around the corner. And then they use the random person's quotes to negate the doctors' research, since those two have obviously equal value as truth. (sarcasm)

[@QwerAsdf-vs8pz]

Vanesa: Right I agree with you, but pointing that out, isn’t something that will lessen the tension surrounding the issue, in fact, it’ll probably amplify it. I like Dr.Mike’s approach, he understands that where these people are coming from is a place of pain, and yet he acknowledges the fact that what they themselves are doing, is only causing more pain.

[@ifyouwantoreplyjustclickth5063]

Just insecure

[@mkbXD]

kinda crazy how when non-doctors say this stuff their defence is “you’re not a doctor” but when a doctor says it it’s “you don’t know what you’re taking about”.

[@ezz7862]

Huh

[@samusaran4799]

ChillEzzE,R, took me a minute but he’s saying that the people claiming others are fatphobic attack anyone indiscriminately of their job

[@alisa9040]

@@samusaran4799 I needed that clarification.

[@skinnylegend9782]

Exactly like these people are stupid .

[@skinnylegend9782]

@@ezz7862 its pretty easy to understand lol

[@BetweenTheShelves20]

A litlle over 14 years ago due to some personal issues, my mom gained a lot of weight, and her doctor suggested a bariatric. My mom is now waaaaay healthier, more mobile, independent, she has a better relatationship with her loved ones and with food. Suggesting this kind of interventions is not fat shaming or fat phobic. Honestly, kuddos to you Dr. Mike for keeping your cool. some people are ridiculous!

[@kane31131]

Dude... he’s never fat shamed or even hinted to being at all fatphonic. He literally wants the best for people and for everyone to live a healthy happy life. Wtf Edit: Honestly, I am baffled. He’s literally the most unproblematic person on this platform who literally is spreading helpful information to help people. When did he ever, EVER, body shame anyone??? I’m a strong supporter for body positivity and becoming confident with your body, but being healthy (Dr Mike nor anyone on his channel never said that healthy = skinny/thin) is the best for you! And your life! He literally wants you to live your best life!!!

[@sethadkins546]

People just want reasons to be offended. They want to sound offended so that they get brownie points for seeming like they care. It's called virtue signaling.

[@wheezyproduct]

if you look at the reddit post, you'll see that fatphobic means any one who thinks being overweight is unhealthy. Its an entire subreddit based around delusional people who think its fine to be overweight and eat whatever you want whenever you want.

[@gvmmy_bear]

wheezyproduct being overweight is unhealthy. Heck, you can die of obesity. But you should never put someone down for that. They are probably doing everything they can to fix it. He never put anyone down. Edit: OOP meant to reply to the comment in general, not just @wheezyproduct. My bad!

[@na5star_]

wheezyproduct 🤣🤣 I didn’t know that

[@NatalieMarie917]

emmy pup I don’t think they’re putting them down for being overweight or obese.. he/she is putting them down for being illogical

[@UranusProductions1]

"He made videos but I didn't watch them" THEN HOW DO YOU THINK YOU CAN GIVE YOUR OPINION ON THEM???!

[@LuinTathren]

EXACTLY!! I was yelling that at my screen.

[@999Tidus]

reddit in a nutshell

[@Weteperepe]

That person's claim is like, what the fu k, it doesn't even make sense??? Is this person against being/becoming healthy/healthier?? Wtfff

[@reyjtt99]

Lol Literally the first thing that came to my head when listening to that part in the video

[@trasksloan2251]

I love the juxtaposition of “I don’t watch all the videos” BUT “I also have all of these opinions about things you stated in your videos...that I didn’t watch.”

[@NoName-cg4mr]

"It’s hard to win an argument against a smart person but it’s impossible to win an argument against an idiot" - some smart guy, idk

[@leostevanovic5205]

Sounds like a Mark Twain quote

[@nbshftr]

pretty sure michael jordan said that or maybe abraham lincoln

[@mezzy6219]

Wait i think it was kermit the frog who said that

[@asneecrabbier3900]

in the lligence or something idk im not smart

[@balladofsinoda]

it was edp445’s quote 🙏🏾

[@covespringskids]

I'm an overweight girl because I am twelve years old but I weigh 188 pounds, right now I'm trying to eat less but it turns out that for the most part I'm overweight because i have mental health issues, and I'm sad about it because it is like REALLY HARD TO LOSE WEIGHT!!! So really please pray for me (Ruby) and thank you Doctor Mike for all your videos 😁

[@malenagarcia1384]

Seriously people are really hating on a doctor for caring about someone’s health ?

[@haroonkhan734]

😂😂counterintuitive right

[@ilamathysekar6177]

🤣

[@isimp9231]

People hate for no reason now, to feel valid, and frankly, it's very irritating.

[@seratoninny]

Lol. people so fucking bored they hatin on doctors doing their own work now smh.

[@jurgenphh6018]

People these days are so fucking sensible. I don't care if you look like a ball, what I care is about your health. Please if you are obese, go see a doctor or a nutritionist. Please! Leave your ego behind, understand that is for your own good. I don't want anyone to die younger than what they sould of have. If you have a condition that is making you fatter than what a person without it would, that's a even bigger reason to go to a doctor and follow their advice. Diets fail because people don't have self-control, I like how in Japan they eat untill they are 80% full, they have many good habits that make them have a healthy weight. There are others factor but guess what... They live the longest! Wow what a surprise. Right? Hahahaha Eat to live, dont live to eat.

[@chad-thundercock3378]

Imagine trying to cancel someone for telling you that being unhealthy is bad

[@pinkminipuff]

*Twilight Zone music starts up*

[@Thetravelingmonke]

“Me unhealthy but me no want to own up to it and acknowledge it so i blame others”-them

[@madara.n]

That whole comment sounded completely stupid to me honestly...these type of doctors are rare and there's someone out there whose willing to bring a non-existent quality to light and make a scene out of it 😐

[@raghadsaleh2063]

Not just any someone but a DOCTOR😭😭

[@annie-dang]

@@madara.n You are talking about the fatphobic comments right?

[@ItstartswithM]

That post really said: "I don't know doctor Mike, I don't watch most of his videos, I don't do my research even if I watched his videos, I don't have any context or background to what he says, so I'll just take pieces of what he has said and make a post critiquing him."

[@saggitarius1727]

welcome to the postmodern "culture" of the stupid people

[@lalaesthiem8681]

More like "i cant understand what he says cause im too caught up with myself to care for what others think of me" i felt that vibe ⊙_⊙

[@Dora_M_]

And he still took the time to respond to that in a professional manner. I don't think I could do it.

[@chintan557]

He has spent years studying and doing the research about this stuff. People think few days on internet reading some blogs and articles on website is research. Do that "research" for 6 months and one still wouldn't know as much as he does. I still get surprised by seeing how stupid people can be.

[@hironyx]

that's what people do. read the headlines and take it as 100% of the article

[@TexArizocan]

I know I'm way late to this video, found you today and been binging. My aunt aunt had gastric bypass surgery and is living a much healthier life. Yes, she's limited on what she can eat hecause of it but shes happy, doing well and loving life. I lost 54 lbs in a year because I stopped eating right before going to bed, not everyone can do that due to medical issues and medical conditions, Mike realizes that. I wish i had a Dr like Mike, he actually cares about the patients when almost every Dr I've come across doesn't seem to care "This is the issue so this is what it is"

[@danielbastien5717]

He is a doctor. He is literally talking about health. That is his job. He uses this platform to teach people.

[@eileendover7896]

I can’t believe this even needs to be discussed. Some of these people need to get a grip 🤦🏽‍♀️

He uses his platform to advertise himself. His job, he should be doing at the hospital.

[@lick28]

@ when did he actively advertise himself? All I see are some memes and fact checks.

[@lionfelidae7698]

It's sad that he chose the most cancerous platform on the internet

[@GreenOnionBrother]

@ He is doing his job at the hospital. o.O So doctors shouldn't make youtube videos because it automatically means they are just advertising themselves? That makes no sense.

[@pepsicxla]

"he tells you to watch what you eat" yeah like every other doctor would tell you???

[@gummieworms3909]

69th like 😏

[@21DesertRose]

lol for real, I wonder what that person's doctor is telling them O.o

[@kev9622]

"how DARE he tell me to watch what I eat in a KZbin video that I'm watching" it is insane the number of people who ascribe to this type of thinking

[@madhavraghu]

Well, they did say that every doctor is fatphobic

[@oakley3412]

"How dare you advise healthy eating habits! Unbelievable!"

[@chapachuu]

I’m overweight and it really annoys me when other overweight and obese people refuse to acknowledge that being overweight is unhealthy or talking about the science. You’re in denial and it’s not helping you.

[@yashkale5639]

Finally someone with knowledge and sense of understanding

[@saido4178]

Yep

[@PolinaLee94]

It helps them build an illusion and avoid guilt

[@Teto-kasane28]

@@PolinaLee94 more like, create a safety bubble

[@neonice]

@@Teto-kasane28 so build Illusion and avoid guilt

[@susiepeterman8781]

So horrible how people jump to conclusions. Love u dr Mike!❤❤❤❤

[@DrAdnan]

People take offense to everything nowadays, even when a well-intentioned person promotes healthy behaviors in a very kind and considerate way.

[@steelrarebit7387]

They mix the words, voluptuous and obese. "Back in the old days people who were fat were considered beautiful." That's their low IQ brains trying to sugar coat their reality of constant wheezing and oozing chicken grease while they don't OWN the fact that they are just giant sacks of flesh blob.

[@4our31]

Steel Rarebit wow you couldn’t have agreed in the most hypocritical way congratulations

[@lightlysal]

@@4our31 he's a little confused, but he's got the spirit.

[@steelrarebit7387]

@@lightlysal I try. Some people immediately take offense to what I say without seeing what I say. Ya know?

[@imneth6050]

@@steelrarebit7387 your English teacher needs to be fired...

[@channingmorgan5801]

He’s a freaking doctor. It’s almost universal knowledge that obesity is literally a killer. The man took vows. He spent years upon years in school. He’s not making stuff up. To quote John Mulaney, “it seems like everybody, everywhere, is really mad about everything ALL THE TIME.” Come on people... 🙄

[@typhoon2840]

People just want something to complain about

[@laurahuynh8333]

Society is becoming too PC nowadays.

[@yawninghamster7238]

PC culture sucks.

[@lipov7083]

Man, I'm very overweight myself and I can't believe some people are so in denial about their bad health.

[@damurfam]

yep, pretty much, pure denial. it's sad, really

[@TangyExplosives]

I think it's because these people are insecure and don't want to change themselves to be better because it's too much work so they settle for an early death

[@frantisekfojt8688]

It's the same with everything tho.. People will look for excuses or attack others or society to look away from their real problems

[@bettycordovi7514]

I have gone up in weigh a lot in the past 3 years and I know I have to do something about it and I am! And don’t I feel less beautiful or less worthy, I am not one to listen to society and all their beauty stereotypes but I know I have to loose the extra weigh and change my bad habits for my health.

[@andrju3916]

And if they don't accept that something might be wrong, they won't be able to change their behaviour and get healthier.

[@alexakawaii8440]

The fact those comments are saying "don't listen to Dr. Mike's well-thought out, healthy, caring, motivating, and effective recommendations for obese loss bc they offend me" is wild.

[@ohno3358]

Doctor: *does his job* Redittor: and i took that personally

[@Bigqueefofficial]

👍

[@ajinkyatarodekar9099]

Also, "I didn't watch his videos, so I don't know much." These people dishearten me.

[@Pastelleraisthebestytchannel]

Yeeeeeuuuuuup

[@enlightendbel]

@John Tremblay the annoying thing these days is that the person making that comment isn't even certain to be overweight. PC culture and SJWs have this tendency to white knight "minority" groups because it makes them feel better about themselves, not because it's a subject that affects them and they feel they need to speak out, no, it's because they want attention and that's the way they found they can get it. Case in point, Doctor Mike felt he had to make a video about these allegations giving that shmuck the attention they were looking for.

[@themodernblonde6249]

Lol

[@aquilaaltaire]

He's so patient for putting up with these nonsense arguments.

[@Shayhammowolf]

No he isn't, he's a doctor.

[@ajlimmm]

he's so doctor for putting up with them.

[@yousefabdulrhman858]

@@Shayhammowolf lol good pun.

[@Marco-jftsj]

I was lmao it’s sooooo dumb

[@beimnetgelan7205]

I disliked the video because he was too nice

[@jk-nz9bq]

"hes fatphobic because he recommends healthy eating" like what

[@danielhu6485]

So he should obviously start recommending unhealthy eating so he can stop being fatphobic XD

[@mitztrick]

That’s gen z for ya surprise they didn’t cancel him

[@ghost_cities]

marcus The poster and commenters are millennials.

[@Petite_curvy_canadian]

Right

[@K0sm1cKid]

@@mitztrick it started before gen z. Haha

[@matthewdethlefson586]

I have new found respect for this doctor. He didn't back away or apologize. He stuck to his guns in what he believes. Good for him. It's not easy to stick to what you believe in especially today where you can be so easily labeled as a bad person.

[@maggierex5675]

I just love how respectful Dr. Mike is when he debunks others. He doesn't get enraged, he brings the real facts from actual studies.

[@yasminemedina2542]

It’s because he’s a professional

[@aGamerDiary]

He didn't get mad, he just got a bit of disappointment

[@theschnoozler465]

Probably stems from his medical training with the 'proper bedside manners' or smth

[@SaoirseElezen]

He is so respectful I actually want to watch more of his video

[@nishsf]

Spittin fax

[@alinajanin9297]

The AUDACITY one must have to tell a medical professional that he still has a lot to learn in his field because he is “fatphobic” is just beyond me.

[@reluctant4611]

Dumb man dumb man yea that's themm

[@BFFforu]

Obese people tend to have problems with doctors, who blame their weight for all medical issues they might have, making it hard for them to get a proper diagnosis. Sadly some of them take it too far and don't understand that their weight can in fact be the reason for some medical issues

[@kilerkane]

The reason for this is that things like the fat acceptance movement have made plenty of people, simply on there principles (Good or not) question if life in excess, or if obesity is actually unhealthy. The problem with this individual that Mike is talking about is that they simply, probably, do not believe that being fat is unhealthy. And Mike confronts them as if they think that, so mike is probably talking on deaf ears.

[@musicfriendly12]

@@BFFforu To be fair being obese or simply not exercising, sleeping or eating properly on a regular basis is way worse in general than most of the examples I see of that hapenning, but I guess there's so true to that, some doctors don't know what is hapenning at home or anything and they don't treat obesity seriously enough, and the mental health issues or bad habits that probably lead to that. But still, it is fair to advice every obese patient to lose weight, they should just teach how.

[@firstnamelastname8790]

true lmao

[@gnlmanohar]

"He's talked about watching what you eat." Wow. How is that a bad thing? So even saying that one should watch what one eats is considered fatphobic.

[@lindenpeters2601]

Some people think that "watching what you eat" is code for anorexia. You and I (and most people) know, it just means making an effort to eat a balanced diet.

[@maximnikolaev6627]

Or I guess look at the nutritional values that are almost always shown in stores; What you really need to decrease What you need to increase Etc.

[@vasilias7987]

oh yeah i hate doctor Mike, he talked about watching what you eat i once want to eat rat poison but my doctor told me not to i hate doctors, they are too caring for me!

[@SkKedDy]

vasilia s IKR!!!111!!!!

[@laurendoe168]

I always watch what I eat - I watch the potato chips as they leave the bag and enter my mouth.