The staccato HD 4.0 cause they don’t have the 4.5

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Skips Gunz

Skips Gunz

Күн бұрын

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@Yellow_Flannel
@Yellow_Flannel 4 күн бұрын
Companies pretending they can't ship the optics plates in the box is the same as apple pretending they can't ship the charge brick in the box. It's just an F U to the consumer. Everything that the product can do should be included in the box ESPECIALLY WHEN IT'S AT THIS PRICEPOINT.
@SkipsGunz
@SkipsGunz 4 күн бұрын
Exactly
@ShooterKev
@ShooterKev 4 күн бұрын
Exactly -_- I'm waiting for the plate and could be 30-60 days. crazy work
@buckets_of_lead
@buckets_of_lead 3 күн бұрын
My M&P 2.0 came with every optic plate you could need. I was surprised. It even came with matching fde extended grip sections for if I bought the extended mags.
@JUSTAGUY1000
@JUSTAGUY1000 3 күн бұрын
Yeah but those are trash and go right in the trash where they belong.
@TheLifeofRon
@TheLifeofRon 4 күн бұрын
Staccato lived long enough to see themselves become the villain… 🦹‍♂️
@SkipsGunz
@SkipsGunz 4 күн бұрын
Batman
@Bryan-1980
@Bryan-1980 4 күн бұрын
And they also lived long enough to follow in Glocks footsteps. Get a government contract and then charge the people more and give them less innovation and less extras with the gun 🤣🤣🤣 I’d rather buy a cheap Turk-ccato, than one of these these new Turdccatos they’re putting out now. I’ll just pick up that new ported 4.25” MAC and see how it runs against my ported prodigy and my XC and call it a day 💯
@SkipsGunz
@SkipsGunz 3 күн бұрын
Truth
@TheProfiler999
@TheProfiler999 4 күн бұрын
You read my mind. Best video on this mess so far! All my frustrations as well are noted by Skip.
@SkipsGunz
@SkipsGunz 4 күн бұрын
Happy to help
@jagpilotohio
@jagpilotohio 4 күн бұрын
The new Bul optic system uses very thin plates with the bosses on them to help hold the optic but the optic screws go through it and mount directly to the slide. I’d still call it a “direct mount” with an “adapter” plate. Bul does include 3 plates with each gun. Bul is my new favorite pistol. The Tac Pro 5” is absolutely awesome.
@SkipsGunz
@SkipsGunz 4 күн бұрын
I’ll get one now that mim is outa them
@jagpilotohio
@jagpilotohio 4 күн бұрын
@ the one thing I wish they would do is offer a steel grip option for a bit more weight. Unfortunately since they use the Para style mag the grips aren’t swappable with other 2011 grips. Their polymer grip is quite good and I actually much prefer it to my XC, but I’d love 6-7 more ounces overall to get up to 43-44 ounces.
@n55Rob
@n55Rob 4 күн бұрын
No but you can swap a 2011 grip and use 2011 mags with the Bul Armory 2011s….one of my friends has a Aluminum Cheely Grip on his 2024 Tac Pro and now he uses 2011 style mags.
@jagpilotohio
@jagpilotohio 4 күн бұрын
@ cool. good to know. I have 9 Bul mags now since I also have an Air so I’m sort of committed to the platform. The other problem is I won’t pay $600 plus for a grip module that I don’t like the shape of. The Bul is much more comfortable than a 2011 grip.
@jagpilotohio
@jagpilotohio Күн бұрын
@@SkipsGunzhey brother. Is your IG account gone? I can’t find it. I had a question to DM you. Is Callaway ballistics closed? They have had no stock at all of any calibers for days and days and their IG account is gone too. Weird.
@jlvelez70
@jlvelez70 4 күн бұрын
Drives me nuts that companies do this… the cost of those plates isn’t going to hurt their profits margins.
@SkipsGunz
@SkipsGunz 4 күн бұрын
Exactly
@tw99s
@tw99s 4 күн бұрын
The most honest review I've seen so far without kissing Stacato's ass. I agree, at this price point it should come with basic items like all the optic mount plates. Especially when they keep saying the gun was designed to run a red dot. So include the damn plates then. I think it's a cool gun but no point buying one til they get shit their shit together and stock everything.
@SkipsGunz
@SkipsGunz 4 күн бұрын
Exactly my point my friend
@DavidLyle65535
@DavidLyle65535 4 күн бұрын
The HD's optics plates are today's C mags. With two CEOs, you'd think one could handle supply chain. Great pistol, I've had great customer service experience with them, but they still struggle with the stuff everyone else has figured out. This will all be sorted, but first movers gotta wait. Crazy. Guess I'll shoot my Fusion while I wait.
@DavidLyle65535
@DavidLyle65535 4 күн бұрын
Oh, yeah, mags. Got more mec-gars on backorder. Sigh.
@SkipsGunz
@SkipsGunz 4 күн бұрын
Lmao
@BigJohnsonGG
@BigJohnsonGG 4 күн бұрын
Just like CZ, Staccato have always been know to have their mags, plates and more delay behind. Hopefully they get everything caught up quickly.
@SkipsGunz
@SkipsGunz 4 күн бұрын
I hope so it’s hard to stay reputable if u can’t keep up
@ZensivYT
@ZensivYT 4 күн бұрын
Love it when you hold these giant businesses accountable. Like Apple, Staccato is becoming the king in their area and are really becoming lazy or just don’t care about the small things anymore
@SkipsGunz
@SkipsGunz 4 күн бұрын
They cash our checks fast though
@ZensivYT
@ZensivYT 3 күн бұрын
@ lmao of course! They got that department down real good
@danielhenderson8316
@danielhenderson8316 4 күн бұрын
I do have to say THANK YOU for turning off the HDR feature on your phone camera. I know I mentioned it earlier, but I love how on my tablet your videos don't trigger HDR mode and becomes 10x brighter than the rest of my screen.
@SkipsGunz
@SkipsGunz 4 күн бұрын
Your welcome but I didn’t change anything different from the 500 other vids lol 😂
@danielhenderson8316
@danielhenderson8316 4 күн бұрын
@@SkipsGunz It was probably one of the 12 software updates we do every week....
@tommymorgan9293
@tommymorgan9293 4 күн бұрын
Complete dick move by them. I saw that and cringed. Glock completly changed the game. Staccato wants more deparments to buy thier overpriced guns that werent drop safe , not reliable enough and used crazy expensive mags. Staccato went with a external exctractor (cause you know, the other tkes to much maintenece) and tried and true mags.
@SkipsGunz
@SkipsGunz 4 күн бұрын
They could have done better
@modernsoul6590
@modernsoul6590 4 күн бұрын
Staccato changes their product line every year. I know the market always looks for new products, but I feel Staccato abandons their legacy/older models. I thought the cs and c were their future. Those products will probably be phased out soon. It seems the 2011 market is over saturated. I do agree that the hd lineup is a good move for them. Hopefully their new patents will hold off their competitors. Everybody has seen their success and most companies are just copying them. The platypus and fusion have pushed them to innovate and that is always a good thing.
@fduffek248
@fduffek248 3 күн бұрын
Law enforcement/swat/ military pushed them to create the HD line. A lot of hatred going on for the creator of the 2011 which everyone else copying off of since they created the gun.
@SkipsGunz
@SkipsGunz 3 күн бұрын
@fduffek248 no hatred at all I own a lot of these guns my point is more lead by example if your the best don’t create hate build the 2a community
@seomarketing9634
@seomarketing9634 3 күн бұрын
SKip you're the best! Keep doing you, we all appreciate it!
@Mr.J.Diesel
@Mr.J.Diesel 4 күн бұрын
Direct mount with our plate 😂😂😂
@SkipsGunz
@SkipsGunz 4 күн бұрын
Right exactly what I said
@matthewf9052
@matthewf9052 2 күн бұрын
Staccato has a terrible attitude I'm going to wash my hands of them there's too many other great companies out there
@johnjakejoebob9465
@johnjakejoebob9465 4 күн бұрын
I am on the fusion firearms train. Would love a compact frame with 4 inch slide. A 5 inch slide. Even a 6 inch would be absolutely fun. Saving up now
@SkipsGunz
@SkipsGunz 4 күн бұрын
I can dig it
@michaelwilliamsjrsrgunsand7652
@michaelwilliamsjrsrgunsand7652 4 күн бұрын
Great video Skip 💪🏾 I got the HD 2 days ago. Let’s just say I’m going back to Glock.
@SkipsGunz
@SkipsGunz 4 күн бұрын
Lmao 🤣
@michaelwilliamsjrsrgunsand7652
@michaelwilliamsjrsrgunsand7652 4 күн бұрын
@@SkipsGunz😂🤷🏾‍♂️
@SkipsGunz
@SkipsGunz 4 күн бұрын
U can’t fix what works brother I hear u loud and clear
@michaelwilliamsjrsrgunsand7652
@michaelwilliamsjrsrgunsand7652 4 күн бұрын
@ facts
@LightSkinCapabilities
@LightSkinCapabilities 4 күн бұрын
What didn’t you like about it?
@riversavage5608
@riversavage5608 4 күн бұрын
This video was valuable. I really appreciate it. Thank you.
@SkipsGunz
@SkipsGunz 4 күн бұрын
Happy to help
@dennisl4000
@dennisl4000 4 күн бұрын
I totally agree with your comments. It is juvenile to build up your product by putting down others, especially one with a track history like Glock. And please note that I am not a Glock fan. I have a C2 and was considering getting a C until these new HDs came out. The HD is heaver than the C because of the steel frame that they switched to ignorer to meet endurance testing I believe. Staccato's small parts fulfillment does seem lacking. When I called them to buy additional recoil springs I was referred to Dawson. I have been shooting for many years and never have been referred by the mfg to someone else for parts. A optic ready gun should come with everything to mount a common optic especially when a gun cost $2500 to #3000. We are well past the point when shooting optics is a novelty. The P4 would be my choice, but the Series 80 4.0 - 4.5# trigger is too heavy for my taste. I have been shooting Series 70 1911's for many decades and do not see the need to fix a non-issue. Once they become available in LGS when I can evaluate one, I may get one.
@SkipsGunz
@SkipsGunz 4 күн бұрын
I completely agree with you
@danielhenderson8316
@danielhenderson8316 4 күн бұрын
One possible bright side is if this is like their other guns, if you order from Staccato directly, they'll adjust the trigger weight for an extra $100. They do it for the P, but I don't know if they'll do it on the HD. Might be worth an email if you're interested.
@TheRonTactical
@TheRonTactical 4 күн бұрын
🤘Hopefully they get the plate figured out before the 4.5 release
@SkipsGunz
@SkipsGunz 4 күн бұрын
lol doubtful unfortunately I feel for you guys as dealers getting attacked over there shortcomings
@kentoncarter1103
@kentoncarter1103 4 күн бұрын
Damn it Skippy you've out done yourself! Best on the net by far. Much love man your builds are great! I didn't find the guy disrespectful but he was prideful.
@SkipsGunz
@SkipsGunz 4 күн бұрын
Like I said it won’t be everyone’s opinion that’s totally ok in my book
@Minutes-Mils
@Minutes-Mils 4 күн бұрын
Staccato really needs to get their head out of their butt. I've never liked their company since they bought sti. Ive personally told people to stay away from Staccato because there are options on the market that are not only less expensive, but even better shooting than a Staccato P/P4. They just need to lower their prices by 300-400 bucks. Considering the discount they do for LEO and MIL is like 600, I'd have to guess they still make money on that pricing..
@SkipsGunz
@SkipsGunz 4 күн бұрын
There’s some really shit leadership going on there at the moment I know so many will disagree but if they knew more about behind the scenes they would understand.
@billyboyd418
@billyboyd418 Күн бұрын
They only do 10% for mil, it’s 800 off the HD and 20% the rest for active LE only.
@Minutes-Mils
@Minutes-Mils Күн бұрын
@@billyboyd418 staccato can still suck my bawls
@TheLifeofRon
@TheLifeofRon 4 күн бұрын
Scott keeping it real! Telling folks the truth and he can’t be bought 🫡
@SkipsGunz
@SkipsGunz 4 күн бұрын
2a community
@michaelwilliamsjrsrgunsand7652
@michaelwilliamsjrsrgunsand7652 4 күн бұрын
300%
@TheLifeofRon
@TheLifeofRon 4 күн бұрын
@@SkipsGunz that’s the Idea but not how folks act, unfortunately.
@TheLifeofRon
@TheLifeofRon 4 күн бұрын
@@michaelwilliamsjrsrgunsand7652 good to see you here Unc 🫡
@MrBailman1911
@MrBailman1911 2 күн бұрын
Total handgun! Great work
@SkipsGunz
@SkipsGunz 2 күн бұрын
Thankyou
@awokeone7997
@awokeone7997 4 күн бұрын
Im glad you went on this rant Skip, i saw those comments by Buck and i dont see the need for the disrespect. If your product is better then just let it speak for itself. They should've went with M&P/Sig or VP9 mags. That Glock mag ish is a gimmick/marketing tool.
@danielhenderson8316
@danielhenderson8316 4 күн бұрын
It's not a gimmick or marketing tool. Stealth Arms blew up overnight with the Platypus to a degree there's almost an 8 month wait to get one. In addition, the LEO/MIL people they're marketing to already have a bunch of Glock mags.
@awokeone7997
@awokeone7997 4 күн бұрын
@danielhenderson8316 it's a gimmick and marketing tool when you say Glock mags and the ones your gun ships with are metal Mecgar ones, Glocks are polymer ones. Platypus and Fusion come with polymer ones, they didn't recreate their own mags and their mags are able to take Glock mag aftermarket parts.
@danielhenderson8316
@danielhenderson8316 4 күн бұрын
@@awokeone7997 So Magpul Glock mags are a gimmick because they don't use Glock baseplates?
@awokeone7997
@awokeone7997 4 күн бұрын
@danielhenderson8316 are those metal, can they take glock aftermarket parts? It's not hard too see, don't be a fanboy and use your damn brain to think, man I know a Staccato
@danielhenderson8316
@danielhenderson8316 4 күн бұрын
@ Nope. They're polymer and need their own baseplates. Just like with 95% of the not-Glock-Glock mags. While there's plenty wrong with Staccato, this exact gripe falls between "Not a big deal" and "Bitch, Please..."
@TheCamaro5
@TheCamaro5 4 күн бұрын
Yeah im waiting on the 4.5 also. But yeah the 800 dollar discount for leo tells you how over priced the HD line is. Weapon collective channel got his with no plates. They told him 2-4 weeks. This is the comnparison i wanted. Looking at the xp pro and the 4.5 but waiting to see what fusion puts out in the next months
@SkipsGunz
@SkipsGunz 4 күн бұрын
It’s coming Xp has some fun things in the works
@thomaswalker9277
@thomaswalker9277 4 күн бұрын
For the money, I'd rather buy a Bul Armory Tac Pro 5". More gun, more in the box, but basically the same price. I will say, I do think this is the next evolution of the 1911 platform. So I'll wait for these features to trickle down to a more affordable platform. I have an Apollo 11 and love it. So I'll be patient.
@Avg_Vet
@Avg_Vet 4 күн бұрын
They copied OA Defense as well and tried shitting on them in the post as well.
@justkiknit
@justkiknit 23 сағат бұрын
Its direct threaded not direct mounted... like the same set of screws that hold the optic hold the adapter plate (doesn't need 2 sets of screws). Love you stuff man wish I had any one of those 2011's you have. You're blesses brother.
@SkipsGunz
@SkipsGunz 21 сағат бұрын
All the more reason the plate should be in the bag for that kinda money. More importantly the company should respect themselves enough to respect others. There should be no negative impact of anything I said in this video because it’s for us as a community. United we stand.
@cerebralfirearms
@cerebralfirearms 4 күн бұрын
For 3k it better come with everything.
@GideonShofar37
@GideonShofar37 3 күн бұрын
lets be honest for 3k the thing should minimum come with a RMR HD and looking at leo prices, it should come with RMR HD, light, holster and 3-5 mags scam city
@SkipsGunz
@SkipsGunz 3 күн бұрын
@GideonShofar37 I agree
@GideonShofar37
@GideonShofar37 3 күн бұрын
@ thanks for your response and video, differences between this and the Fusion?
@SuperSneakySniper
@SuperSneakySniper 3 күн бұрын
Oof... Stacato is suffering from the "Rich not Wealthy" syndrome... Just fancy enough for their toxic fanbase to be pompous, but not fancy enough to justify that attitude. It's like someone with a Ferrari who looks down on everyone else's car, and hopes nobody knows that Pagani and Koenigsegg exists.
@KONCHWORKS
@KONCHWORKS 4 күн бұрын
Holy cow, Skip you just got the GOLDEN KING TACO AWRD, you hit right on. Way to many other really good choices now than thinking Staccato is the only choice. If Fusion came out with a round top XP my choice would not be the new Mac9 comp Awesome video to watch on lunch 🤘
@SkipsGunz
@SkipsGunz 4 күн бұрын
Im starving
@kaseymoffett5628
@kaseymoffett5628 4 күн бұрын
Well done Scott! Way to say true! I'll stick to my xp pro, thanks 👍🇺🇲 looks like it shoots flatter anyway.
@360TacticalSolutions
@360TacticalSolutions 4 күн бұрын
I think this is a good breakdown of the new HD as far as being an “unboxing” that covers the negatives one would encounter when buying it. The stuff with Buck…I’ve had great interactions with the guy the last couple years and personally the Glock in the garbage can video I actually liked. I saw it as satirical advertising. I get your thoughts though. This is a dirty business and maybe companies should be a bit more friendly rather than taking jabs
@SkipsGunz
@SkipsGunz 4 күн бұрын
Yeah I think it could have been done without that kinda stuff. I’m no Glock fan just childish
@ShooterKev
@ShooterKev 2 күн бұрын
my acro plate I ordered from staccato says it just shipped. Ordered on Wednesday. They definitely could’ve put them in the bags if they’re shipping this fast. Be here on Tuesday
@SkipsGunz
@SkipsGunz 2 күн бұрын
Yeah i ordered mine from Dawson. definitely getting tired of we’re so awesome pitches but yet we can’t supply plates in the purchase. Great gun nonetheless. Enjoy yours I can 4portsman it when ready Www.skipsGuns.com
@braylonfisher8062
@braylonfisher8062 4 күн бұрын
This was so honest great video
@SkipsGunz
@SkipsGunz 3 күн бұрын
Thankyou
@bassplaya410
@bassplaya410 4 күн бұрын
I 100% don’t support the shit talking, however I don’t look at any of these 2011s and say “these are better” you could compare them to the other Staccato models and try to make an argument, sure, but the only thing the HD has in common with some of these other pistols is the MAGAZINE compatibility. Anytime I see another 2011 all I see is “OUR chocolate ice cream is better than their chocolate ice cream” basically zero actual innovation. The HD (specifically being ambi) is the only reason I’ll ever own a Staccato. Mag compatibility is a bonus, and actually rounds out my pistol “collection” right next to my OA2311c
@SteveSherman-vv1lk
@SteveSherman-vv1lk 3 күн бұрын
The plate is more like a spacer. The screws go through the plate directly into the slide.
@driftitlikeyouownit
@driftitlikeyouownit 4 күн бұрын
Staccato is over rated and they have a big head. They have always had a big head. I will never own one because of this. Thier big "claim to fame" was "were in texas" yea well I'm a natural born texan and my daddy was a car salesman so I know 💩when I see it. They are ok for what they are but staccato was never better than anyone else. They just got too big in the britches and think they are king.
@SkipsGunz
@SkipsGunz 4 күн бұрын
I love that u saw it this way i respect that alot 🫡
@Chris-ez7lu
@Chris-ez7lu 4 күн бұрын
You absolutely right 👍👍
@perryjohnson5583
@perryjohnson5583 4 күн бұрын
Why isn’t anyone else talking about how shitty this is for customers? Especially for a 2500 dollar price tag!
@SkipsGunz
@SkipsGunz 4 күн бұрын
Cause there so hyped on staccato they don’t see it I guess
@nogutsnoglory1487
@nogutsnoglory1487 4 күн бұрын
Dawson has plates. I just ordered one for the Rmr and they already shipped it out.
@SkipsGunz
@SkipsGunz 4 күн бұрын
Ordered thankyou for that
@nogutsnoglory1487
@nogutsnoglory1487 4 күн бұрын
@@SkipsGunz NP man. Can’t wait to see how the ports come out on the P4.
@MoNTaG3100
@MoNTaG3100 4 күн бұрын
@@SkipsGunz Can I please get some info on this Dawson plate? I got an HD and im upset it doesnt have a plate and I dont want to wait lol. Does this Dawson plate actually fit and fill the gaps correctly like Staccatos?
@danielhenderson8316
@danielhenderson8316 4 күн бұрын
@@MoNTaG3100 Near as I can tell, they are the EXACT plates that Staccato makes. Staccato does a lot of business with Dawson Precision and Dawson probably makes the plate for Staccato. Why Staccato doesn't have them while Dawson does is a logistical fustercluck.
@MoNTaG3100
@MoNTaG3100 4 күн бұрын
@@danielhenderson8316 Do they make an RMR one. Only one I see on the website is acro and DPP
@primepacllc8013
@primepacllc8013 4 күн бұрын
I'm no longer buying this gun , great guns out there that are cheaper than staccato and just as good if not better .
@SkipsGunz
@SkipsGunz 4 күн бұрын
Truth
@ChitsanaLoyha
@ChitsanaLoyha 4 күн бұрын
Thank you for pointing that out very refreshing
@SkipsGunz
@SkipsGunz 4 күн бұрын
Can’t always be sunshine and rainbows
@AMCAL2311
@AMCAL2311 3 күн бұрын
So tired of staccolds...if john wick shot a VERSA EVERYONE WOULD BE ON THAT TOO ..... LETS MOVE ON FROM THESES PLEASE.......VOODOO PRIEST DO SOME VIDS ON IT....
@SkipsGunz
@SkipsGunz 3 күн бұрын
Hi point review coming lol 😂
@Dave-0
@Dave-0 2 күн бұрын
I’m digging the new HD concept. Didn’t realize the guys over at Staccato were doing the whole “belligerent asshole on the internet” routine, but at this point, who the hell isn’t behaving like that? Somebody’s gotta keep up with Q and BSD.
@SkipsGunz
@SkipsGunz 2 күн бұрын
Lmao I dig your style
@markdamon77
@markdamon77 4 күн бұрын
I'd rather conceal carry the Jacob Grey Hex. Ported and pinned grip safety.
@DoYourselfJusticeFFF
@DoYourselfJusticeFFF 3 күн бұрын
Definitely a frustrating customer experience and I would have the same reaction. I don’t care about them talking about other companies frankly because it doesn’t matter to me personally . The gun not being complete would definitely piss me off so I’m glad you made this video so I can wait til all of the kinks are worked out. That being said I don’t have nearly as many Staccatos as yourself but I do have a few and i trust them. As a consumer in a position to wait for all of the bugs or whatever to be worked out that is exactly what I am gonna do. But i do think all of your points are valid and any frustration is warrented
@Rockman_Solo
@Rockman_Solo 3 күн бұрын
Sounds like Staccato is starting to fall off... I'm definitely eyeing that xp pro, but I'm glad I chose Bul Armory over Staccato.
@keithmcree2067
@keithmcree2067 4 күн бұрын
Would love to see you review the new Bersa double Stack 1911. Looked really nice from what I have seen on the ShotShow videos.
@SkipsGunz
@SkipsGunz 4 күн бұрын
If I get one in I will
@alexhanson8697
@alexhanson8697 3 күн бұрын
direct mount means the screws thread directly to the slide. It doesnt mean there is no plate knucklehead.
@SkipsGunz
@SkipsGunz 3 күн бұрын
If u wana look at it that way by all means go ahead. Regardless of what your definition of it is then putting the plate in the bag wouldn’t hurt moneybags
@alexhanson8697
@alexhanson8697 3 күн бұрын
⁠@@SkipsGunz the people running these companies know better than you whether or not it would or wouldn’t hurt. The majority of companies that supply plates in the box cut corners (they are plastic, or cheap metal, or simple plastic spacers). You’re spending $2800 on a gun. I doubt they want to put cheap plates in the box. Makes sense to have the customer buy the $60-80 plate and get the quality one they sell for their specific optic.
@donwelchmusic
@donwelchmusic 3 күн бұрын
It’s because Tony pig ago left along with Nate horvath I believe as well. Their marketing team has changed over several times as well. I own several staccatos but the last one I bought along with everyone else I know has been complete shi. They are sloppy put together you can see right through the frame and slide and there is so much slop in the frame it’s insane. Staccatos problem is the grew to fast and their qc has just fallen off along with all the people coming and going in the company doesn’t help either.
@SuperSneakySniper
@SuperSneakySniper 13 сағат бұрын
Question! Just visited your site and liked what I saw, do you guys offer a "blending" or otherwise a "fix" for the Staccato "bump" that keeps hitting my thumb knuckle? It's either the safety or the beavertail I'm not sure what's at fault there but was thinking about getting something done about it. And ideally I'd actually like to maintain the stock/plastic grip. Or am I better off just selling it and saving for an Atlas?
@SkipsGunz
@SkipsGunz 9 сағат бұрын
Yes we do that u basically just email in off the site saying you wanna blend that area we decide what’s gona help the best and move forward
@Justin-ly9zw
@Justin-ly9zw 4 күн бұрын
I mean this that’s exactly why I don’t own a HD yet. I want the 4.5… bad….
@maybe5883
@maybe5883 3 күн бұрын
Yup, all good points. This is one reason I bought a Platypus.
@SkipsGunz
@SkipsGunz 3 күн бұрын
Great gun
@tommymorgan9293
@tommymorgan9293 4 күн бұрын
Checkmate is the oem supplier for staccato mags.
@justinpeto
@justinpeto 4 күн бұрын
Pretty sure they’re Mec-gar
@tommymorgan9293
@tommymorgan9293 4 күн бұрын
@@justinpeto i meant the 2011 style mags
@13kortr
@13kortr 4 күн бұрын
So, basically you're saying what's the point in buying a staccato other than to just waste money. Staccato had it good for a while there but these new companies are revolutionizing the 2011 platform. All of these other companies coming out with these more budget minded builds are, actually, very nice. Most people are just going to modify their 2011 anyway, so why not buy something cheaper, modify it how you like and still come in half the price you would spend on a staccato or other higher priced 2011's.
@a.juarez9770
@a.juarez9770 4 күн бұрын
Is the fusion firearm ported? It seems to be less bouncy than the staccato when returning to target.
@LightSkinCapabilities
@LightSkinCapabilities 4 күн бұрын
Coming out with the ported barrel soon!!
@dfdf4874
@dfdf4874 4 күн бұрын
The missing adapter plates is a huge fuck up by Staccato. They said they will start shipping them out in a couple of weeks which actually means a month or more in gun world. That's a huge turn off but I was more interested in 4.5 anyway which ships out in the spring. I had no interest in the 4 inch version nor being an early adopter anyway so I'll just wait. Patience is a virtue.
@FiringLineShooting
@FiringLineShooting 4 күн бұрын
You're going to plague the one with the sight block? Are you going to remove the sight and plague that? Or plague it before the sight block?
@PnP-td1mt
@PnP-td1mt 4 күн бұрын
I’m selling my staccatos because of said individual and marketing. Seems we have similar thoughts..
@javiercolon9956
@javiercolon9956 3 күн бұрын
Great video Scott. Honest, truth, and straight to the point. Staccato keep forgetting the concept of; " Best pistol for your money". Don’t worry about what they may think. You don’t have a problem with your customers, if Staccato choose to go this route, they are the one will end with a problem..... a costly one
@SkipsGunz
@SkipsGunz 3 күн бұрын
Hopefully everything gets figured out cause the guns not half bad
@KevinGates-n9x
@KevinGates-n9x 4 күн бұрын
Can you do a Staccato C vs P4 video?
@SkipsGunz
@SkipsGunz 4 күн бұрын
That’s gona happen
@KevinGates-n9x
@KevinGates-n9x 4 күн бұрын
@ I just bought the Staccato C and am considering the P4 due to me being left handed. I’m wondering has the grip angle changed and is the trigger good.
@UniformLiability
@UniformLiability 3 күн бұрын
I think regardless I still want the Staccato HD 4.0.
@SkipsGunz
@SkipsGunz 3 күн бұрын
Absolutely 👍 this isn’t a video to make u not want the guns just for all of us to do better at being a community as a whole.
@UniformLiability
@UniformLiability 2 күн бұрын
@ 100%!
@dtfrankel79
@dtfrankel79 4 күн бұрын
Given how long Walther takes to send THEIR freebie optic plates, why would "Stack-A-Toe" be any different?
@benjytheframer2781
@benjytheframer2781 20 сағат бұрын
I got the xc and the p and i was very disapointed when they came out with this new guns i like them but the glock mags are a deal breaker, specialy when other companies give you an aluminum grip out of the box and cost less
@andrewdawson4912
@andrewdawson4912 3 күн бұрын
I miss the STI and DVC open type guns
@LamboRambo_
@LamboRambo_ 4 күн бұрын
People say old staccatos used to come with an optic plate or two in the box. And considering the now standard buy-in price is $2500 starting. You should get an optic plate. Idc if it's 1 or 2 in box like a rmr footprint or dpp, anything else you gotta buy. Or 1 free one you get in the mail after like walther. But spending $2500+ on a gun than having to but an optic plate for another $130 without tax or shipping is a joke. Staccato does a lot of things right except for this. With the new HD doing the same thing, and the "base" model starting at $2500 coming with only 2 mags. And the new plate design is a simple pass through optic plate for $80, is still not in the box? Ridiculous! I have a staccato so I'm not just talking out my ass about something i can't afford, and I want / will likely get an HD. But that price point is a bit high for the what's in the box cost.... Lastly they offer $800 off the HD or 20% all other guns (not including customization), so they have good margins. Not saying they shouldnt, but an extra mag or optic plate at their cost is much less and if they make 30% on every gun they make thats kinda stingy...
@SkipsGunz
@SkipsGunz 4 күн бұрын
Giving a plate in the bag wouldn’t hurt is all
@LamboRambo_
@LamboRambo_ 3 күн бұрын
@SkipsGunz for real, considering staccatos cost for them. Their cost is pennies on the dollar, maybe $10-$50 at most. And that's being generous for argument sake.
@theemikeymike
@theemikeymike 4 күн бұрын
The point is no one wants to see staccato punching down. They aren’t the underdogs they should continue setting the standard. And if they think building in America is enough to stay successful then good for them but want brands collectively are going to help take a chunk out of Staccato market share
@Visalia0220
@Visalia0220 3 күн бұрын
I looked and didn't see this question and have not found the answer yet. Does it have an metal mag release or polymer?
@9mmslinger929
@9mmslinger929 3 күн бұрын
Aluminum. And it does not tear up the polymer mags they tested steel and aluminum and used a rounded edge
@glock2dog
@glock2dog 3 күн бұрын
between you and monsoon tac wanting to comp the HD-P4.5 i can't wait to see how you guys do it. It looks like small island area just wide enough for the front sight . that comp will be thin like watchtowers Apache . would love to see a vid of you making a comp i thinkit would be interesting to see a vid on how the gunsmithing is done.
@SkipsGunz
@SkipsGunz 3 күн бұрын
I actually wana 4portsman the 4.5 using the block as intended and tune the gun
@glock2dog
@glock2dog 3 күн бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/e3WtfGCMesZ0oLssi=fPJN-ins9YZKp5qZ Best video I've seen of closeup of the 4.5
@Wmbhill
@Wmbhill 2 күн бұрын
How does it shoot compared to the Stacatto P? I’m guessing it’s snappier but I’m curious. I think I like the C2 recoil impulse over the P, which I know is crazy, but I might buy this HD. Lastly, I agree with your take on the trash toward Bob and the XP, he’s a great guy out there in the gun world and it’s a good gun.
@Perkuhlerk
@Perkuhlerk 3 күн бұрын
I’m not sure why they even released the Staccato C in 2024 with the new proprietary mags. It was my first 2011 so I went with it bc I didn’t have any other 2011 mags regardless and I’m not made of money so I only planned on getting one. Issue is it came with 2 mags and they’ve been sold out since release. They used to come with 4, now it’s 2. However I do own a bunch of Glock mags and 6 months later this comes out for the same price point? A bit confused and disappointed. If I can’t get more mags by the time the 4.5” releases I’ll be trading in. They’re releasing new guns and can’t even get folks mags to the guns released the year prior or add on to the already released versions, example I want 20+ rounders for the C but at this point would be happy with more stock mags.
@247Combat
@247Combat Күн бұрын
@skipsgunz how did you feel the accuracy was on it?
@SkipsGunz
@SkipsGunz 21 сағат бұрын
The guns a great gun was never a doubt from them.
@johnpelfrey2041
@johnpelfrey2041 3 күн бұрын
What brand magwell and extensions are you running on the XP pro?
@SkipsGunz
@SkipsGunz 3 күн бұрын
Magwell is oem the baseplates are tti we sell everything if u need even the Xp
@DMH707
@DMH707 3 күн бұрын
Honestly the only reasons I’ve been looking at the staccato HD over the other 2 mentioned. Is the grip looks to be slimmer than the other 2 and it doesn’t have grip safety which for me is huge because I hate them. Also you can use all controls one handed
@Gamenofun
@Gamenofun 3 күн бұрын
What screws did you use for the SCS320? Did you have to shorten the screws to get it to fit? What torque value did you use?
@wallacelee368
@wallacelee368 4 күн бұрын
They are being beaten at their own game. I for one am happy to see them stumble I had their stuff back when they where called sti out of 5 I had, I could only get one to run correctly I have no faith in "staccato". I'll take the turks version all day.
@SkipsGunz
@SkipsGunz 4 күн бұрын
I get that
@richarprado2235
@richarprado2235 3 күн бұрын
I really love my XP PRO Shoot amazing... Have everything Needed in the 2011 market and with the difference in price with staccato I can buy 5000 training rounds
@sunshinecycling
@sunshinecycling 4 күн бұрын
I think saying "so don't show it to us" in response to the 4.5 not coming til Summer is mind-numbingly silly. They whole point of Shot Show is to show what's coming up later on. A high percentage of the guns are coming some time later. No idea what you are saying. The rest of points on Staccato are spot on...including the plate needed for a direct mount.
@SkipsGunz
@SkipsGunz 4 күн бұрын
Don’t put it in all your videos and on the website yet if your not ready to sell it shot show is different than putting it on the site to drool over for 6months
@Dante-kt4cf
@Dante-kt4cf 4 күн бұрын
Why would I port
@Fleshwound747
@Fleshwound747 4 күн бұрын
I personally wasn’t a fan of the stacatto p I bought.. didn’t really think the fit was that great I have had several sti pistols back in the day which were great my Trojan in 9mm 😅s prolly one of my favorites still today. From what I understand from other is stacatto is a marketing machine and do quite well at advertising but now they have the I the king mentality and forgot what got them there. This reminds me of the oracle arms pistol on the sig mag platform mall that said I would try the 4.5 with the block.
@montireneemontilliano665
@montireneemontilliano665 4 күн бұрын
Are you serious about NOT taking TTI mag extensions?! Do you know why?
@PatrickHenry-t1s
@PatrickHenry-t1s 2 сағат бұрын
ill wait for the comped version
@tcollier5739
@tcollier5739 4 күн бұрын
Good video, Scot. I am a big staccato fan. All other guns. Really sad how the company is operating currently.
@SkipsGunz
@SkipsGunz 4 күн бұрын
Me to I own a lot of them I just wana see them do well in the end
@Longshot762x51
@Longshot762x51 2 күн бұрын
All these pistols look good, too bad I got my Prodigy. It runs now after its been gutted.
@therealpeterburke
@therealpeterburke 4 күн бұрын
I've been trying to by CS mags for 6 months now. Unobtainium. Looks like they all were working on the Gloccato. Not interested in it. I never owned a Glock.
@mdx9286
@mdx9286 3 күн бұрын
I totally agree that Staccato should provide the option to select an optic plate during the custom checkout process. However, I guess I'm not following the logic that Staccato is somehow screwing the consumer by not including it. I've never known Staccato to include the optic plates free or in the box.
@billyboyd418
@billyboyd418 Күн бұрын
It’s on their website, I found it and added it to my order. For those that got it from their dealer they should have ordered plates. They also listed optics installed and those include the plate install and zero. I would have added that but they didn’t have the rmr hd.
@mdx9286
@mdx9286 Күн бұрын
@@billyboyd418 Yep. I ordered mine one day before the official release. It shipped two days later.
@airmann4673
@airmann4673 4 күн бұрын
What ig post can I find the conversation between buck and Levi?
@Warrior-o6g
@Warrior-o6g 4 күн бұрын
I would pick stealth arms
@SkipsGunz
@SkipsGunz 4 күн бұрын
Great gun
@patriotfromthenoket6141
@patriotfromthenoket6141 4 күн бұрын
Called staccato and they said don’t run an optic without the spacer. Let us know how yours goes. I guess long at the firing in block spring and plunger is captured it’s fine. Got mine today
@SkipsGunz
@SkipsGunz 4 күн бұрын
It’s just not good cause there’s no bosses so all the stress is on the screws tell staccato I wouldn’t have to if they supplied plates for there plate less system 🤦🏼
@patriotfromthenoket6141
@patriotfromthenoket6141 4 күн бұрын
@ no kidding. Build such a great gun with so much innovation and then do this. I’m mounting my SRO on without the spacer till it comes in. It covers the firing block spring. Hope it will be fine.
@JulietBravo-qp2mf
@JulietBravo-qp2mf Күн бұрын
Co-CEO…leadership problem lol?
@houseofsharpeis9366
@houseofsharpeis9366 4 күн бұрын
This is why I decided to skip this model from them and the C I’m not a hypebeast chaser that’s for sneakerheads not gun people
@GideonShofar37
@GideonShofar37 3 күн бұрын
you have shot them both, what are the differences between the fusion pro and the hd p? and how do they both compare to a 45/19x with radian comp? I currently own a decked out g19x with radian comp etc, shoots flatter then anything I have shot besides a XC, also got a cz 75 p01 and SIG macro X radian comped and icarus ace frame: is it worth it to get a fusion or hd p over the g19x/45 radian comped and if so, whats the point in keeping the glock (if your not filthy rich) and would the fusion or hd p be carried by you, I sold my C2 because it was so pricey and my g19x shot better (c2 was fast and maybe a little more accurate) and I didint carry it over my macro
@NCEngravers
@NCEngravers 4 күн бұрын
Customer brought in one of your projects today.. should make for an interesting correction video!!!
@SkipsGunz
@SkipsGunz 4 күн бұрын
Iv been subbed for years look forward to it
@NCEngravers
@NCEngravers 4 күн бұрын
@ if you have been part of my channel for years then I am not going out of my way to cause any problems.. Mistakes Happen. I’ll fix it.
@glennpendleton5583
@glennpendleton5583 3 күн бұрын
How dose it compare in size to the c?
@SkipsGunz
@SkipsGunz 3 күн бұрын
The grips alil bigger in comparison on the hd il do a comparison vid soon
@JohnHerman-x7l
@JohnHerman-x7l 4 күн бұрын
Stacato’s ego strikes again…🙄
@kzyt87
@kzyt87 3 күн бұрын
springfield did the same to their 1911ds , no plate for few month preorder 59.99 now bump up tp 129.99 lol
@tizben
@tizben 3 күн бұрын
I don't get why they would create the new staccato cs and c's with the new smaller magazines, then make a glock 2011?
@wvlongshooter3912
@wvlongshooter3912 4 күн бұрын
Staccato not sending optic plates is complete bull shit !!!!!! It’s more infuriating that you can’t order them. Unreal!!!
@SkipsGunz
@SkipsGunz 4 күн бұрын
Dawson does have them now fortunately
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