Skyrim is Weirder Than You Think...

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[@signpostmarv]

Reminder that this game is trash

[@frechjo]

Please, considering this publisher's country is conducting a genocide, it's not a good moment to promote them

[@simplegunsmith]

That intro didnt exactly hook me so I stopped watching it once. Decided to give it another try and you lost me again at raid. Sorry not sorry.

[@SerKGrimm]

Ya sold your soul for some cash. Probably not even that much cash.

[@signpostmarv]

@@SerKGrimm search for "how not to do business raid" for how much cash.

[@EJDubbz]

6:01 As we know from playing Skyrim, Nords will eat 100 cabbages in the middle of battle. It is no wonder they always carry a wind with them.

[@AGuyNamedRicky]

Good thing they don’t eat 100 beans…

[@Ed_man_talking9]

@@AGuyNamedRicky those are the exiled nords in high rock. they dared question if Ysgramor could really eat soup with a fork.

[@matsw8283]

As the lore tells: ..."and from their rear mouths a roar was heard, filling the air with a foul smell...making the frost spiders flee for their lives and the great Alduin to retreat inside his shell"...

[@IrishMcScottish]

The mighty clan; Føul-Äss

[@casvandijck9338]

Imagine if they loved chili peppers... "After eating 100 peppers, a pyronado appears around the player, dealing 25 damage per second up to a distance of four feet."

[@hallamhal]

41:30 Of all the weird things in this video, the fact that wasabi exists in Tamriel surprised me the most

[@solalabell9674]

Haven’t gotten there yet and I really have to know how this comes into play

[@solalabell9674]

Welp I did not expect it to come into play while nords were under the influence of ‘joy snow’ cocaine from flying snow whales

[@plastack]

Do you really find that surprising?

[@mohamedtahamarah2758]

​@@plastackI agree that it's not that weird, Tamriel has a variety of weird ingredients and alchemists have the weird habit of combining whatever they can see and eat it.

[@LiftandCoa]

​@@solalabell9674From now on i will exclusive refer to Cocaine as "Joy snow" lmao

[@justme0910]

I like to think that the Nords used to be a lot more "otherworldly" and powerful than what we see in TES 4 and 5, but lost most of their primal nature and elemental powers either due to becoming Imperialized, leaving behind the Old Ways and adopting a syncretic version of their own religion instead, or because all the mortals on Tamriel are slowly losing their divine connection, generation by generation, with Aedra-worshiping humans being hit the hardest due to a combination of their short lifespans and absent gods. As has been pointed out before on this very channel, it's odd that even the militantly traditionalistic Stormcloaks aren't even fighting for their right to worship any of their traditional gods like Shor, but the ascended historical figure who represents the very Empire the Stormcloaks are rebelling against. This could be seen as a contradiction or a retcon (and let's be real, it probably is), but it's not completely incompatible with the lore. Talos does, after all, represent the indominable spirit of humanity and proves that humans are not spiritually inferior, severed from divinity forever, as the elves like to claim. If nothing else, it makes for a good story to rally behind, and isn't that what the Nords are all about? It would also add a deeper tragic element to the Civil War - even the rebels are aware that there is nothing for the Nords to truly return to, because the real cultural genocide is already done. The Old Ways have been all but forgotten, and there's barely anyone left who would give their life fighting for Shor or Kyne or Stuhn. So all that's left to fight for is the memory of an Empire that was destroyed during the Oblivion Crisis, that the Nords had only ever had a reluctant connection with, and that still managed to take their cultural identity from them. It's like a toxic mix of nostalgia and Stockholm Syndrome.

[@GRAFFDEMON]

This is very well written. Never thought of it that way.

[@LordVader1094]

"So all that's left to fight for is the memory of an Empire that was destroyed during the Oblivion Crisis, that the Nords had only ever had a reluctant connection with" This is false. Nords have always been some of the strongest supporters of the Empire pre-TESV

[@GRAFFDEMON]

@@LordVader1094 Yes but you can't really argue that the Mede empire is anything like the Septim empire. They're clinging to a dying dream ruled by a warlord.

[@casvandijck9338]

Shor and Kyne (and assumably Stuhn as well) are just older names for the known Aedra. The Old Way merely got renamed, it doesn't lead to anywhere different.

[@blurqeqoherds]

​@casvandijck9338 Shezzar, the imperial name of Shor, isn't counted among the Nine Divines of the pre-Concordat Imperial Cult. He's treated as a lesser god, while in Skyrim's pantheon he's the chief deity. Imperial prefer Akatosh, the patron of the elves. That alone is reason enough to regard the Old Way as something fundamentally different, destroyed by the Empire.

[@AGuyNamedRicky]

One of my favorite things about Nord culture is that like real Norse mythology it is full of double meanings, contradictions, and obscurity

[@Saber23]

2 of my favourite things are what you mentioned and massacring imperials ❤️😇

[@bobdollaz3391]

The stormcloaks are the Thalmors useful idiots!

[@lukasp5892]

That’s why I love TES lore in general, every culture in the games has their own complex origins and myths and nothing can be taken at face-value because you’re learning the lore from biased and flawed people who actually LIVE in the world rather than some omniscient narrator telling you everything. I’d probably be a Colovian or Cyro-Nord in TES. Nord and Imperial culture feels the most familiar to me, probably because I’m German and both the Nord and Imperial cultures draw from various Germanic themes Norse being the most obvious for the Notds but there’s definitely also all sorts of Central European and Roman influences. I fucking love Elder Scrolls :)

[@Nobody-11B]

The mead of poetry is my favorite

[@lukasp5892]

@@Nobody-11B I now live an infinitely richer and happier life knowing that this mythical beverage exists, thank you

[@sindrimyr5351]

I will say it again. Jurgen windcaller Nerfed the Nords into Oblivion. Ok so the voice failed them a few times, no weapon is perfect, but it brought them Many more victories. Imagine modern day Nords with special Tongues divisions. Would be so awesome.

[@jakecollin5499]

Unless it upsets the gods and he was right.

[@williams100292]

@@jakecollin5499 Nothing indicates that he was. The Greybeards are not the givers and keepers of the Voice. It is the right of every Nord to wield it if they have the skill and determination to do so.

[@SorcererKing94]

@@jakecollin5499 It doesn't, Kyne is a warrior goddess. It seems more like Jurgen blamed the gods for his defeat rather than accepting he is a poor general/leader.

[@brendaanneckelsamgc5583]

"Modern day nords with a tongue division" Shhh... We're not supposed to talk NATO's #Finnish #deathmetal psyops on unsecured comm channels!

[@Miguel23887]

Hehe... "Tongue" division. Ladies will love it.

[@rosashell4]

During the Totemic Religion section, i just realized that the reason Alduin attacks helgen, is because the horse thief called him there, when he's calling out to the imperial God's for help, none hear him, except Akatosh, or to the nords Alduin.

[@voidconcept1269]

Oh my. God. I never thought of it like that!!!!

[@tcm_smitty]

Helgen is one of the closest towns to the throat of the world. Occam’s razor. I doubt Alduin was heeding the prayers of any man, let alone a horse thief. If anything he may have sensed the Dragonborn and went to see what was up. Otherwise I think proximity is the most likely explanation

[@Catman_CM]

You're Alduin. You just got Shouted forward through time by a bunch asshole men. Disoriented, the first thing you see is an unfamiliar landscape, with a human settlement. World ain't gonna eat itself.

[@windy1439]

alduin is not akatosh the akatosh alduin dichotomy book is wrong

[@OniYuri-r4o]

I feel like he sensed a dragon in Helgen n wen he got there only seen men

[@groovelife415]

I just wanted to say that years ago I was going through an extremely rough time in life. I was on the verge of becoming a statistic. Watching your Fallout 4 build videos and focusing on creating those characters is what got me through those late nights when life didn't feel worth it. Life is more amazing now than I could have ever imagined. Thank you.

[@Randy_Flamethrower]

I know you guys are probably burnt out, but just saying I think most of your subscribers would gladly watch any new Skyrim build videos. I know the well has run pretty dry at this point but at least its something. Just don't want this channel to fade into obscurity. Sucks that Starfield was a flop.

[@chloe-historyandgames]

agreed

[@cossakrose]

47:11 Michael Kirkbride: "Oh yeah yeah, and henceforth she became known as *Barfcock Maid-No-More!* CANON!"

[@WordsOfARaven]

I feel like the name Nord for the people of Atmora was a name given to them by the snow elves, kinda like Viking wasn't the name of the people of Scandinavia but the name for the action of raiding, so maybe the name Nord could have meant, people from afar, tide tamers, or maybe ice breakers

[@mrmagot98]

Nord means 'north' in most Germanic languages, and atmora is north. So there's also that.

[@Felix-ix7ic]

Wrong. It was given to them by Todd Howard.

[@Ocrilat]

The Nordic attitude to how accurate their myths were reminds me of something author Isaac Asimov said about the Greeks. "The Greeks would never ruin a good story worrying over whether or not it was true."

[@chaserseven2886]

hey did you see the king that cheated on his wife with a khajit? this lore alone beats all the other lore this series has

[@Nameunvalid]

What. You can't leave it like that. Details

[@See702]

Yeah details please

[@chaserseven2886]

theres not much details except he got assassinated the next and he fought 50 orcs or something check the uesp page

[@curlyjoe4234]

​@@See702 the luaty argonian maid

[@more17]

@@Nameunvalid he's in Elder Scrolls Castles.

[@TheParagonIsDead]

I know this is a lore channel, but you should make a second channel or just some videos where you show your mods! Your mod list looks so fun.

[@casablahca]

seriously tho! i wanna remod my game and i’d love to nab some from their list

[@JediLordNathan]

Second that I must know what ENB you use to get Skyrim to look amazing

[@p0ltergeisha]

even just like a video or two occasionally to talk about their favorite mods at the moment; maybe immersive mods they think add to the universe or something! that way there's no new channel needed and it's still on theme but adds some new vibes.

[@Morqana]

THIS is a good idea

[@OptimusGnarkill]

+1 for all of these ideas

[@idipped2521]

Does anybody else miss the fudgemuppet podcast days

[@hermonymusofsparta]

I do

[@idipped2521]

@@hermonymusofsparta I wish they would do one more podcast when we get more info about TES VI and maybe have Drew as a guest, just for the old fans

[@thelibrary2]

I just put some on to sleep.

[@TheRealMycanthrope]

I miss Drew being on the channel, but given that I never listened to the podcasts, no.

[@DanTheReaperMann]

@@TheRealMycanthrope Remind me what happened to Drew?

[@cossakrose]

47:11 Vivec did WHAT with his *milkfinger!?*

[@Rabidazell]

*House Redoran House Telvanni House Indoril loved this*

[@Gonger02]

​@@RabidazellHouse Dagoth is not amused

[@saltygrasshopper]

There's some rule 34 imagery for you

[@TheMasterGamer21]

LMAO

[@bitingapotato3277]

Vivec was built different. Literally, if you believe the sermons.

[@badluck5647]

Theory: Ysgramor was a Dragon Priest, but Nord bards chose to omit this fact from the historical record. This idea is from the unofficial lore of Kurt Kuhlmann (Co-Lead Designer of Skyrim): _"If Ysgramor was indeed a "dragon", most likely he was a Dragon Priest - in the Late Merethic Era, it would be unlikely for a leader of Ysgramor's reported stature to be unconnected to the Dragon Cult. But connecting the Nord hero Ysgramor with the now-reviled Dragon Cult is of course anathema to those who favor chauvinism over historical truth."_ -Hasphat Antabolis

[@badluck5647]

20:16 Ysgramor is a "dragon"

[@twiddlerat9920]

I am under the assumption that the dragon cult took off a little after Ysgramor's time, maybe 10-20 years after he died

[@badluck5647]

@@twiddlerat9920 The dragon cult originated on Atmora, but the dragon priests that came to Skyrim were more tyrannical.

[@ethansmith8813]

​@@badluck5647 They probably joined the nords going to Skyrim. But only after did they become tyrannical

[@Knoloaify]

I go with the much simpler answer: Consider all of the Dragon Cult and Dragonborn stuff as non-canon. It's clear that when Ysgramor was written into the lore, no one at BGS was thinking about the Dragon Cult and the Dragonborn being a thing (Nords were associated with Kyne instead). Yet they introduced new elements in Skyrim's history that they struggle to make work with the preexisting lore because they conflict with each other. The reason it's difficult to make sense of it is purely meta. If you like the new lore, you're probably better off simply disregarding everything that came before for the same reasons, so yeah I guess you can go with Ysgramor being a Dragon-Priest.

[@povilzem]

"Vivec had to stuff her mouth with his milk-finger" bruh

[@AnotherViewBot]

Was just about to comment on that one lmfao

[@willambernahecooking4036]

Same tho.

[@karolfortuna8522]

Been a long time, this is a happy day in Tamriel. By the way, I hope that after new chapter in ESO hits, you'll make another episode of the podcast, about all the lore bombs that it's gonna give. Daedric Prince, Ayleids, Cyrodillic jungle. It's gonna be a blast!

[@jebodeiasque]

They haven't really done a lot with ESO lore but I bet Camel will make a video about it.

[@badluck5647]

Crybabies: ESO isn't canon 👇

[@karolfortuna8522]

@@jebodeiasque true. I'm not sure if it was Scott or Michael that was throwing some lore from there from time to time, but one of (if not the) main reasons for it ending was that there's not that much of lore to be covered and it's gonna take some time for TES 6 to come out. I think that ESO, especially with this chapter, can reignite the passion and bring novelty to the world. Depending on execution, it might be really solid, and the guy that oversees the whole chapter was in charge of one of best chapters and dlcs in ESO. Personally Greymoor + Markarth is esentially Morrowind 2.0 when it comes to the story, and it's just so rewarding

[@jebodeiasque]

@@karolfortuna8522 Yeah ESO has come up with some amazing lore like making the Towers theory canon and exploring the Khajiit religion with the Dro-m'Athra and the Lunar Lattice and stuff. I haven't played the more recent chapters but I'll probably get around to them eventually.

[@lazilycatharticone4191]

I can say Zos toying with the original lore idea that Cyrod was originally a Jungle (Pre-Oblivion) is an entertaining idea.

[@Jay-mx6bg]

This is why I adore the elder scrolls there is that blur between events happening or them being fairy tales instead of it being just a continuous path of events, much like our real life history the same could be said about the line being blurred

[@300SonsofOdin]

*Snorts cokain * "You know what would be cool, man? Gigantic flying wales that, when the breath, the spew forth coke." That's how I imagine it went down at Bethesda when they came up with the Sky-Wales.

[@johnmarston3379]

I use to watch this channel all the time back in year 7 (2017). I just recently got back into skyrim and remembered your guys content and have been binge watching like crazy and listening to the podcast at work. Awesome to see yall still making videos, carried my childhood fr

[@CodyMapping]

So true, I remember all those rainy 2016 autumn days when a friend of mine gifted me his PS3 Skyrim copy and I played for hours and hours straight while additionally listening to FudgeMuppet. Crazy to think that the release of Skyrim is closer to 2016 than 2016 is to 2024 🥲

[@anthonyeaves4145]

38:12 a dragon dying of old age? I don’t quite believe that when they can be so easily resurrected with a shout. Only another dragon can permanently take another out

[@crazyscotsman9327]

Maybe because Bethesda rewrote the lore because they originally didn’t have the Dragon cult as a thing and they forgot to update the lore books.

[@maceospades]

One thing i love about Skyrim is that everytime I come back I find something new that Ive never seen before (with probably well over 1000 hours in the games) ive probably just forgotten some stuff and theres a lot of new anniversary stuff, but still its awesome!

[@dreamcaught3876]

wulfarth has main character energy

[@shoutykat]

57:04 - tuning blow, not turning. That's a significant difference with one of Kagrenac's tools.

[@Kazuma11290]

If only developers had the balls to be as unique as writers.

[@r99azm80]

"Todd watched The Fellowship of the Ring and mistakes were made."

[@Kazuma11290]

@@r99azm80 "There are no accidents" -Master Oogway

[@cheezburgrproduction]

It’s so much easier for an author or publisher to lose money on a book or not make it’s profits back on a series deal than it is to have to fire people over a failed gaming prospect or closing an entire studio due to failures years in the making; especially when in this current era of gaming it takes more money than a lot of us will ever see in our lifetime to produce even a modest effort.

[@andrex1456]

As one of the two, I do admit that each take a similar yet distinct flavor of insanity

[@ant8ank2]

Would love a video format like this for each province!

[@Yourmomma92]

Camelworks has videos like that. Curating curiosities I thing

[@EJDubbz]

Glad to see you're back to Skyrim

[@vitriolicAmaranth]

I like the idea of the snow whales being invisible most of the time, and a certain fraction of the snow atop tall mountains discretely being made from cocaine (or moon sugar, the ancients simply attributing it to the snow-spouting whales), especially since there are suggestions of a global cooling event at some point in the distant past (meaning while there always would have been snow on the peaks, especially if there were whales or moons showering "snow" on the peaks, there was much less actual frozen water back then to dilute it). I forget which but there's one sound mod that adds whalecalls to the tops of mountains without actually adding whales, and I think it's neat both as something that works with there being invisible snow whales and the possibility that there simply AREN'T snow whales, and you're hearing distorted elk bugles or something (which presumably would have been a phenomenon in ancient times as well, leading to the myth of snow whales and the embellishment of nords actually hunting them).

[@jorgecardoso5863]

Don`t wanna sound like a broken record, but having a way to be exposed to this lore in an easy way while playing would be so, SO incredible. Imagine making a mod where Scott voices an NPC like Vilkas, who is supposed to be a scholar and know the nordic traditions. He would be the npc with most dialogue, teach you about Ysgramor, the companions, the war paints, the voice, the old gods, the ambiguity. It'd let us love the companions, understand our role as dragonborn and fix a bit of how Skyrim's lore was left behind. Maybe just revoicing him wouldn't be too hard. Maybe a mod author like Jay would be willing to help, and it would also push the channel towards modders that don`t know about it. Thanks again for another amaazing video, guys!

[@gd_xl]

excellent video. if you see this, i’d appreciate if sometimes you could include quick captions on screen for the different fantasy names. i’m slightly hearing impaired and it would help following along the video if the correct spelling was on screen for a few seconds (not whatever the auto captions thinks it is haha)

[@vincemcgaj628]

After playing Starfield and spending 80+ hours doing the main quest and side quest, I went back to Skyrim. I just explored the world with survival mode on. Man, they really missed the mark on exploration in Starfield. Skyrim is just so rich in history an culture with interesting characters who have interesting backstories. Starfield barely has any of that. They had a big war, alien mutants, and the constellation companions who each can be summed up in 1 sentence. Starnorn isn't that great either. I'm not pessimistic about Elder Scrolls 6 though because Bethesda is going to be going back to the things they are good at: a medieval DnD style power fantasy.

[@UnswimmingFishYT]

I very recently pieced together a far more believable explanation as to why the 500 Companions were able to take over Skyrim. We know Yngol was a dragon priest, because he can appear as one in his tomb, and this means dragon priests in this time were present, implying the company had some with them. Ahzidal was also around then, and had spent the time in Ysgramor's absence improving his own magical talents to be better than most other wizards in recorded history, learning magic from just about every specialized culture in addition to what he already had as a dragon priest himself. He was one of the best enchanters too, and surely used this advantage to make the Companions' weaponry far more effective than it would naturally be. On top of all that, he was particularly good at fire spells, which a snow elf would probably be vulnerable to, and certainly wouldn't be strong against. If a collection of dragon priests and Ahzidal specifically aren't enough, Gauldur was around then. One of his sons is sealed in Saarthal, and we know Gauldur himself was an exceptionally powerful archmage. I hadn't considered it before, but stalhrim is also a likely factor which would make sense being in use at the time. We know the Snow Prince and Ahzidal ended up on Solstheim where we see stalhrim in tombs, so with a clear example of it being in use at least somewhere in that early time, it's very reasonable to guess at that some members of the company had weapons or armor made from it. Total, we have Ysgramor specifically being unusually strong, assorted dragon priests, Ahzidal and Gauldur each being stronger than most wizards could ever get, probably a small amount of stalhrim, enchanted weapons, and with Gauldur being a mage but not part of the dragon priesthood, it's unlikely that he'd be the only one of magical persuasion in that category. It's never been stated anywhere that all the Companions were warriors or even a large majority, and if you planned to wipe out an entire civilization of elves, it makes sense you'd seek out mages more to give your army far more destructive capabilites.

[@drivernephisson7034]

You also have to remember that in Elder Scrolls, high level warriors can tear through lesser warriors like Guts from Berserk. They're just as powerful as the mages.

[@bobbilly7499]

There was likely thousands of “Nords” involved but only 500 “companions”, like how the legend of 300 Spartans stoping the Persians but the Greeks having 5000 warriors that normality aren’t mentioned.

[@UnswimmingFishYT]

@@bobbilly7499 For a more grounded world, that would make sense, but when we know for sure that the 500 had superpowered wizards and such, it's completely believable for so few to be effective. We also don't know if Shalidor may have been involved or not. He's hard to place on the timeline, except that he must have been around before the Dwemer vanishing. Considering he lived long, it's a potentially present person who just can't be completely confirmed or ruled out. The confirmable ones are still enough to explain it.

[@UnswimmingFishYT]

@@drivernephisson7034 True for some, and likely including Ysgramor, but I was aiming to low-ball the power a little. Assuming the warriors themselves are just strong men without it still leaves the issue of a few in particular being near-unstoppable killing machines, mainly Ahzidal. I think he may actually have been written into Dragonborn as an explanation for how the Return worked so well, for people who didn't believe it.

[@ximthedespot4673]

The Nords described here sound way more intresting than the ones we got in Skyrim. Who knows, maybe I'll develop my own head canon of 4th era Skyrim that brings the elemental Nords back?

[@editorrbr2107]

Skyrim, well Emil, destroyed the cool canon lore of the Nords. Wait until you see what he does to the Redguards next. I shudder.

[@ximthedespot4673]

@@editorrbr2107 Me too. I'd be very disappointed if the Sword-Singers got the same treatment the Nord Tongues did in Skyrim.

[@editorrbr2107]

⁠​⁠@@ximthedespot4673if he ever gets a hold of Elsweyr, there will be riot. LOL. Khajiit stans are not to be crossed.

[@Toxic_Korgi]

​@@editorrbr2107Good lord, schizos are still using his name like he's some boogeyman. Touch some grass kid.

[@normanfury8259]

​@@editorrbr2107 the Redguards? The trailer for ES 6 definitely isn't in Hammerfell.

[@thadsaylor8726]

I know I'm a bit late to this video but I kinda want to gauge what everyone thinks of an idea I had. If ES6 is set close to skyrim in the timeline, could Bethesda do a Mythic Dawn resurgence as the assassin guild, since the dark brotherhood would still be nearly extinct. The Mythic Dawn is all about toppling established power and engage in assassination, beginning of Oblivion. I think they could fit really well in High rock toppling provential lords and possibly clashing with a "knights of the nine" kind of order, or the vigilance of stendarr. Possibly letting you do both stories til they come in conflict at a midpoint at which you choose which to side with.

[@NickGuelker]

I actually like this idea. But I doubt Bethesda has the balls to make a ElderScrolls game without The Dark Brotherhood. I don't recall if we ever learned the timeline for ES6, but 200-300 years is plenty of time to reconstruct the brotherhood. Thats about the age of America, for example. But I do really like you're idea. Though I'd also be pretty happy with a new assassin group. ES3,4 and 5 always felt more like a cult, than a group of assassins.

[@VLarraechea]

Damn, wasn’t expecting an hour-long video today! And one about the Nords themselves, no less! Thank you very much, you guys! Now I have some fine lore to listen to throughout today.

[@UmbralDawn]

How do I never get tired of Elder Scrolls? I love it so much. I cannot wait for the next game

[@kylesprenkel680]

it is one of the things i like about the old morrowind lore for the universe. unfortunately the only extension of this weird lore is in a mod for morrowind. cool stuff anyhow.

[@OdaManjiro]

Skyrim: Home of the Nords for Morrowind needs more exposure (and devs)

[@kylesprenkel680]

Facts, the only gripe i have with it is that they are slightly opposed to mixing new lore into the game. their prerogative as stated cool beans.@@OdaManjiro

[@EJDubbz]

4:20. You gotta love that the first famous Nord wrote fan fiction about himself in elvish characters

[@thesinfultictac5704]

Wait so Cyrodiil used to be a Jungle and Atmora mythic home of the Nords was once a beautiful woodland, then the ice came? Is the Nirn we're experiencing from at least Morrowind onward, in a glacial period, an ice age, probably not Glacial maximum, as it would even be dryer but definitely a glacial period and the previous eras before atmora was lost, a Glacial minimum period ? I know this is incredibly mudane explanation for climatic and ecological shifts in Tamriel that are in the lore. A lore that contains dragons, and time breaks, and magic but it would explain a lot.

[@Infected_Apple]

I like any idea that rejects the idea that Cyrodil was turned temperate retroactively, so I'm on board for this mundane version.

[@fronthal157]

The world is dying. We as the last dragonborn delay, or maybe stop the end, but the towers have fallen one by one. The prophecy hasn't been averted, merely paused or delayed

[@JediLordNathan]

Really the disconcerting thing about Atmora is that something happened that caused all the people living there including the Dragons to flee to Skyrim and never return, something happened that was so terrible that even the Dragons are terrified of it and considering Alduin is a god who can't actually truly die it means whatever it was must have been terrifying indeed to make even the Dragon's afraid of returning. What happened its a great mystery and one I'd really like to see answered at some point. It would make for a great story what do Dragons fear? Well apart from the Dragonborn obviously as the song that plays when you fight Dragon's in Skyrim is called The One They Fear which is about as clear of case for fear. By the way your thoughts on Ysgramor I think he was a Dragon Preist obviously but also Dragonborn or potentially a Dragon and his 500 companions were 500 Dragons which would explain how they utterly decimated the Falmer.

[@a.j.carter2294]

It is explained what happened to Atmora. It froze over. Of course you’ll need to relocate your entire civilization if your continent can no longer sustain life, it was out of necessity not fear.

[@sgtstull]

I imagine that Atmora is dying/died after being separated from Tamriel proper. Being far away from the Adamantine tower/other towers and rejection of elves may cause Auri-el's power of time to not reach Atmora. I imagine Atmora not only physically frozen over but also outside time and sort of temporally frozen as well.

[@a.j.carter2294]

@@sgtstull If this is the case, how would you explain Akavir?

[@sgtstull]

@@a.j.carter2294 it's my own head canon, but I see Yokuda as remnants of a previous kalpa and Akavir representing the anticipation of the next Kalpa. Yokudan mythology talks about the gods walking at strange angles to move between world skins, and Akavir seems to be a sort of reflection or counterpart to Tamriel. I believe that Atmora and Pyandonea were once part of Tamriel but were separated after the Ehlonfey war.

[@AthenaTennosN]

@@sgtstull Close. But also: according to MK, Akavir is literally future. As well as the new dream. Tosh Raka is literally the child of Vivec and Jubal.

[@eskimojoe731]

15:57 don’t forget about the hash slinging, cash dinging, or flash ringing. - Hash Slinging Slasher

[@Morqana]

YAYY finally a new Skyrim full episode 😎 well-written & detailed as always friend

[@TheIronSheild3665]

Where are youuuuu

[@tarponpet]

Worth noting, the Giants of Skyrim aren't more unintelligent than any other race. They just have a tribal culture.

[@corprall]

With the amount of money Raid: Shadow Legends makes they could make a good game. I guess that would be less profitable though.

[@jhsams]

Nords will all ways be my favorite race

[@luxhemlock5194]

Really cool video. Great production! My personal headcannon about the Woad and protective sigils is that as the Atmoran's began to develop written language the power has been dwindling away. They're losing their power over the "voice" as they become more civilized and drifting further from Kyne and their original beliefs.

[@KiShonRasmussen-wj3ie]

Also I just realized that the nords believing they don’t need armor and willing that into existence is comparable to Warhammer 40k Orcs lol

[@chrischavandevoorde3216]

Brilliant video, I enjoyed every second of it. Thank you for all the time and effort you put into this. I love the Elder Scrolls, I love Fudgemuppet, but most of all I love the fact that there are people out there who enjoy this world as much as I do. :)

[@TheVenomation]

I hope ES6 isnt disappointing, you guys make such great videos it would be a shame if the game becomes the next victim of modern gaming

[@piotrdaniel3829]

The switch from the calm intro into the sponsor gave me whiplash xd

[@paratethys]

"woad is a blue pigment used to make paint" is like saying "hemp is a green plant used to make rope" lol... not incorrect, but perhaps burying the lede?

[@BloodShadowe]

Hell yeah, long-form Skyrim lore! Amazing video. Do you have a mod list anywhere? Your b-roll is so gorgeous :D

[@shoutykat]

That ancient Atmoran armour is so on point.

[@slipstream5762]

Id recommend looking into Nolvus, it has an auto installer where it does it all for you, and looks really good.

[@kats_residence]

I've been watching your videos for a long time now, many years. I want to thank you, I appreciate the fuck out of your videos. Not only do I learn things from every one of them, but your voice has also become somewhat comforting to me. Please keep them coming, you are appreciated and your videos are amazing

[@marystone860]

i LOVED this one! In the end of the video, I imagined a Ancient Nordic version of Tony Montoya from Scarface, riding on top of a Flying Whale (that literally spews Coke), saying:' SAY HELLO TO MY BIG FRIEND!'🤣

[@Mary_Beth_Reimer]

Sweet! I love waking up to Skyrim lore! 😃 Thank you!

[@daizenmarcurio]

Starfield lore just ain't cutting it lmao

[@lucasantolik9960]

You can find yeasgramor chilling in sovengard at the end of the dragon born quest when you fight alduin. You can talk to him, but that's about it. Him and a few other nord heros of old.

[@kirkjackson2261]

I’d love you guys to do another let’s play. Please do one maybe with an Argonian?

[@OptimusGnarkill]

Yes please

[@NubiBuiltKatchr]

These scholarly videos AND your epic build guides are why I love your team’s work. Dr. Scott, PhD in Elder Scrolls Lore.

[@boltfantasticated9705]

6:46 I don't remember where I heard this from, but I believe the Nords got weaker over time. As Ysgramor's sons lived in Skyrim they changed with their environment, they didn't need to be titans of stone that could resist anything Atmora threw at them anymore as Skyrim was comparatively a much nicer place.

[@punishederic4761]

I can't tell you how much I wish Snow Whales were fully realized in Skyrim's base game, maybe not the wasabi shields and cocaine part but the idea of having passive slower-moving dragons that allow the player to observe their massive majesty in the mountains of the game, and making them slow so players could very easily choose to slaughter these great flying beasts or encounter others trying to hunt them for prizes of fame and fortune.

[@DavidJG242]

Elder scrolls always had the best lore

[@Ho0pxr]

I've always imagine atmora as having three separate kingdoms. Maybe 4. One being that of the giant king, the other being of men who venerated kyne and shor and the other belonging to the dragons. You could maybe argue the woods were herma moras kingdom. Maybe where he tricked and devoured jhunal causing him to fall out of favor with the atmorans.

[@picahudsoniaunflocked5426]

I'm Canadian, with friends + family all across the country, including Newfoundland, There's a UNESCO site of a 1000 year old Norse settlement called L'Anse aux Meadows in Northern Nfld & the lore of Skyrim/Atmara really remind me of the settlements there, Greenland, Iceland, & "Vinland", as well as the Northern Peoples like the Thule who predate Inuk cultures. The ideas of exploration, visionary nomadic movements, & intense climate change impacts on cultures are all very deep subjects the supposedly shallow worldbuilding of Skyrim evokes for me.

[@DavidWBIII]

I can't thank you enough for all the stories and compellations you have come up with over the years and this amazing game. We all love it and the stories! Thank you my friend for always giving us the very best. This game is truly an epic tale and an amazing game.

[@HK-vq1xb]

ATTN FUDGE MUPPET ADMIN I just had a thought that the dragon scrolls are shouts from Akatosh. They seem to have a different Magicka than the normal Magicka channeled from Aetherius. He's the dragon god of time... He would be privy to prophecy in that way. Alternatively he may have constructed them jointly with Azura (prophetic dadra of Twilight) and Peryite (taskmaster daedra and also a dragon) Third thought is Azura and Peryite (possibly Clavicus Vile also might fit in somewhere) created them on their own. Those are my thoughts. Please do a deeper lore video on one or more of them or if you can make a better argument for other aedra/ daedra. Thanks for consideration guys if you got this far reading this

[@tonylouis6072]

I love how you guys just lowkey quit on Starfield and are just kinda slowly crawling back to TES content 💀

[@mybedissoft]

They've made it pretty clear that they enjoy Starfield and have basically been doing Starfield videos for the last few months straight so I honestly think it's more so because Starfield is a brand new IP so there literally just ain't that much to cover like there is for Elder Scrolls and Fallout for example with like 20 years of lore and world building behind it like they do. What videos do you expect them to even make about Starfield right now lol?

[@MinecraftMartin]

This channel gonna be focusing on Skyrim for the next 40 years. Seriously it's 2024 they still covering a 2011 game. Sooooo many better games out there than Skyrim over the past 13 years

[@mybedissoft]

@necromancer_eatmypantzer you think this to be coverage of Skyrim the game but it's literally not lmao, it's a lore video about the land of Skyrim itself bro. You acting like the continued coverage of a franchise decades later is seen as a negative is wild when 90% of people would see it the other way around, very few games or franchises even have enough within it to cover it for as long as The Elder Scrolls has. I'd love to hear what better games you think they should make lore videos about my guy?

[@loganflaig6632]

@@MinecraftMartinand?

[@ADMONIUS]

@@MinecraftMartinNot just Skyrim. This video covered the lore of the province of Skyrim. A lot of this lore dates all the way back 20+ years ago.

[@madmanszalinski]

Now translate Iz Grah Morah from Dovah to Tamrelic and realize Ysgramor was more than we thought

[@Oblivionator100]

I mean we know that King Olaf was a Tongue for fact. His corpse is able to shout when you fight him at his tomb.

[@jesusriced]

Baldurs gate builds please thank you

[@Hammzly]

Whoever remodeled the building is very talented.

[@SashaMarchenko05]

47:11 So, a "milk finger", huh 😑 In this context...

[@teyanuputorti7927]

very interesting lore and such fascinating characters and this is a great channel

[@krulltheskull]

As soon as I saw the Totemic Nord mod release, I knew there'd be a video on here at some point.

[@syrupsmiles9384]

I swear, I remember Scott making a joke about Raid Shadow Legends sponsors a few years back on the podcast or something

[@kirbylover37]

You either die a hero, or live long... Sponsored by Raid Shadow Legends

[@maxvandijk2001]

Perfect video i love that the nords finally get the recognition they deserve

[@EJDubbz]

9:30 never understood why they didn't make the nord runes based on dragon writing instead of elven. Skyrim should have retconned this

[@Illier1]

Probably because the Dragon tongue is sacred and requires a massive amount of meditation to even understand. Very few Nords ever knew it. for the common Nord elvish was probably far more digestible.

[@williamings773]

​@Illier1 we aren't writing Latin (a very complex language) yet we use their alphabet even though English sounds almost nothing like it. Latin was considered the sacred language of The Bible, it didn't stop us from pilfering their alphabet, in fact it encouraged it. For some extra Bethesda silliness, they wrote Jurgen Windcaller's name on his tomb in Daedric. I often feel, we the fans think about this stuff more then they do.

[@Illier1]

@@williamings773 When you speak Latin you don't cause earthquakes and thunder, I feel like you're missing the point lol. Even the written walls radiate with powerful energies that make it near useless as a common tongue. The Dragon Language is near impossible for all but the most dedicated people to learn it. It would have to be so heavily modified you'd practically have to make a new language from scratch. Where as the elvish alphabet already exists and any schmuck can learn it far easier.

[@williamings773]

@Illier1 but you don't have to know a language to use letters from it, and you can find normal transcripts of word walls written in books so there is no magic stopping them.

[@handsinthefire]

I think the reason the Nords lost the Woad ability from the game is probably something to do with the split that was made culturally with them irl. Bretons or Reachmen most likely would've taken that from them having been the "Celtic"inspiration race. Or it could've just been something to not be as OP as they were. I mean look at how many things use frost/lightning damage in Skyrim as a game.

[@toramasatakezo2929]

I am blessed a tes lore video again. Thank you.

[@softo-and-weto]

@12:16 You meet Ysgramor in Shors Hall in Sovngarde tho

[@keabonhall2436]

34:52 yooooo they smokin on that chieftain pact

[@simonleinauer6767]

How cool would it be if enchanting your character with engraved runes on their body, non permanent and weaker or permanent and powerful. one piece per area of armor (head, back, chest, legs, arms). Each armor piece covering a tattoo cancels its effect but special nord berserker armor reveals them but still provides light protection. A true berserker build possible, double axes or battle gloves 😮 Attack speed, stamina build, elexiers

[@graysenm1320]

It's been a long month without you guys!

[@connornicholas8628]

47:14 WTF is Vivec’s milk finger??

[@mischaselamat302]

The thing that looks like a finger, & produce (?) milky stuff? 🥲

[@syrew900]

Ad finishes at 3:32

[@koheletcalaforexclan6508]

Yeah I know! The dynasty of the empire started with a man boning a literal muddy hill! His soldiers saw him post-climax and were so weirded out some killed themselves!😂 And that’s not even Skyrim! Where do I begin? Olaf keeping a dragon in dragonreach trapped for so long it forgot it’s own name! MARKARTH! I forgot to mention elsewhere of a certain Sorcerer in Morrowind with certain clones…😅

[@thejadedrabbitTJR]

26:17 I just noticed that Masser(the moon) is just a recolour of Mars. I have close to 1000 hours in the game and never noticed that.

[@thomasorozco6155]

I could watch these videos all day

[@ItsToioko]

I love your channel. I show it to my parents all the time.

[@regs137]

I feel like every time Michael Kirkbride is referred to, Bethesda is like, dude, you don't work here anymore. Stop acting like you still work here.

[@keygenrosie]

Well yeah he doesn’t work there anymore

[@ReplicatorFifth]

Fudge Muppet pretty much has a doctorate in Elder Scrolls lore at this point

[@PapaMead]

Hey I noticed something strange in my recent gameplay I thought I’d put in a recent video’s comments. I’m in solstheim, clearing the water stone, immediately after, a dragon attacks. After I defeat the dragon, reiklings ambush, however they’re fighting Miraak instead of the people I’d just saved. However the people don’t see Miraak because he’s in a ghost apparition-like form. Just a weird thing I encountered I thought might be interesting

[@JC23783]

Cheers fellas. I've been enjoying your content for several years now. I'll also be looking forward to seeing some more Starfield builds once the online hate boner dies down and people realize it's actually a pretty fun game. Keep up the great work.

[@sebastiankara1039]

Starting the game three months into the “discourse” was the best choice I could’ve made. I had my expectations so tempered that once I actually gave the game a chance I was genuinely a little disappointed in myself for ever giving any weight to the arguments that the outrage merchants have been peddling for months. But yeah, you are right, the hate will definitely die down by the last DLC.

[@JC23783]

@@sebastiankara1039 That's awesome and me too. I only started playing Starfield last month because I got gamepass 2 weeks for 1$. I don't buy into hype and I usually only buy a game if I'm 90% certain I'm going to enjoy it.

[@eyesack6845]

Skyrim is also getting a bit of that rage boner. Hell, every bethesda game is getting it. I've heard people unironically say that no elder scrolls or fallout game was good except new vegas.

[@danielalexandre89]

47:11 Really?!?!😂 wtf Also goofyness is not a side effect of cocaine... belive me

[@lisbethtinnesand6309]

i know why the elves attacked , it is written in a book in skyrim that i found by accident, and the story is really ineresting. Can tell you if you want

[@TheNuclearGeek]

I LOVE snow!! I love fudge! I love lamp...I love lamp.

[@Just_Call_Me_Tim]

Man... the freaking _armor_ in this video! 😂🤣 I just can't... "With his milk-finger...." I see what you did there.

[@TruekingoftheLeinstermen]

Nords are my favourite race even though I love the empire a massive barbarian with wuthrad in one hand and an imperial banner in the other