Are West Ham a better or worse team under Julen Lopetegui? | Soccer Sunday discussion

[@Bigb3nn]

City beat Westham 3:1 and y’all say city is incredible. Chelsea beat same Westham 3:0 and y’all say Westham was horrible. Why can’t you give credit to Chelsea? Chelsea has a good squad and the coach seems to be building something there.

[@BSMAG87]

They said the same thing when Chelsea beat Wolves 7-2. Maybe, in actual fact, Chelsea are good and when they get it right, they're going to blitz certain teams and make them look poor (not to say that there won't still be ups and downs with a new squad, new manager and new system)

[@YamatoNaoe]

​@@BSMAG87 6-2 not 7-2

[@BSMAG87]

@@YamatoNaoe Typo, sorry

[@obinitv7466]

Double standard

[@User677-56]

Which is why you ignore the clowns

[@sirblackshield8000]

Trying their best to downplay the quality that Chelsea showed yesterday, why do these pundits hate us 😂😅🥂

[@jaycooper7475]

when have they not hated us let's be honest, we could win four champions leagues in a row and they'd be talking about how the quality of opposition has dropped

[@sirblackshield8000]

@@jaycooper7475 exactly 😂😂💯

[@kristssaulitis9255]

Tell me about it boys💯

[@Chelseaalltheway-u8f]

When chelsea win it's because opponent's are bad. When arsenal and city win it's because they were brilliant. Unbelievable

[@fredtraylen4311]

@@Chelseaalltheway-u8f stop crying you won 3/0 and what I heard they got enough praise from commentators your not too 2 or 3 anymore your fighting for 4th with a fair few other teams

[@temporaryuseraccount0012]

It's because Chelsea are not a good team. They will be exposed as they face better teams throughout the season. Chelsea will be lucky to finish 6th come the end of the season.

[@Chelseaalltheway-u8f]

@@temporaryuseraccount0012 yeah. Chelsea was suppose to finish 10th 12th last season according to people like you .i suppose you are a Manchester United or an arsenal fan

[@HOTTABAll]

Stop the cap bro

[@User677-56]

​@@temporaryuseraccount0012 still suffering from the 6-0 hammering at the bridge 😆

[@Highlander1414]

Don't blame west ham manager @ chelsea have dangerous strikers.

[@CJa-l6p]

Fun fact just our attackers alone are worth more value than whole West Ham squad.

[@Seyiwale6127]

They still don’t talk about that .

[@fredtraylen4311]

Fun fact all the money you have spent and you ain't won nothing for a while now let's see how you do in Europe flash nuts😂😂

[@Seyiwale6127]

@@fredtraylen4311 keep calm every situation needs new energy.

[@PedroNeves-hm5xm]

@@fredtraylen4311 "won nothing for a while" is crazy considering our last trophy was 2 years ago... but i get it we use to win trophies every year at our peak so 2 years seems like 20...

[@alex59861]

Chelsea made them look bad its ironic how they say West Ham were bad.

[@kristssaulitis9255]

Tell me about it bro💯 their sooo crap at their jobs, I can smell jealousy‼️

[@onset6ix]

ah yes, the typical when chelsea win the opposition randomly has a bad day

[@sameerkiron]

ikr, I think chelsea defense was too strong today especially with tosin and colwill and cucu not because west ham attack was bad although west ham defesne was very shaky

[@kristssaulitis9255]

Tell me about it bro💯

[@76kid]

Too soon to judge after just 5 games. The potential is there, but we're not clicking yet. Lopetegui is still figuring out his best 11 and formation - he just needs more time.

[@tonyb1880]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@gerardrankin1464]

I hope so😂

[@PedroNeves-hm5xm]

Lopetegui was always gonna fail his style doesn't suit the team. Potter was the obvious choice...

[@charliec8717]

@@PedroNeves-hm5xmunfortunately teams like west ham cannot rip the heart and soul out of other clubs and take all there best assets like what chelsea done to brighton… what a joke of a club, chelsea are the epitome of what is wrong with modern football and ruining the football pyramind

[@docholiday-lm4vf]

Really hope they get relegated after the treatment of moyes

[@gavinlisk2292]

We were beaten by 5 and 6 last season! Im willing to give the manager more time, i said at the start of the season lets review after 10 games, if things dont improve by then then he is in trouble

[@Mybest.]

To be honest it’s crazy have Felix, Nkunku, Neto on the bench and don’t forget there’s still James, Lavia even Mudryk, just wow

[@JagendaJoseph]

RE: DISCLAIMER 😅😅😅 Dear, all teams that are going to play chelsea football club... you are a better team than chelsea. when u lose, u will only be having a bad day....or chelsea will be only be lucky..... as stated by the sports punditry teams. .... let chelsea do the walk as they do the talk... love ❤️ u chelsea fans ..... Urs emotionally....A DIEHARD CHELSEA FAN ...

[@kristssaulitis9255]

💯💯💯

[@btbmax]

On the ball we looked really good but off the ball we were awful and Chelsea punished us. We were unlucky to not score at all, but also lucky it wasn't 5 or 6. Will oddly take the 3-0 and hope we can pull it together defensively and trust our attack to score

[@PedroNeves-hm5xm]

@@btbmax you say that but I can’t remember Sanchez having to make any top saves you lot had possession but didn’t really do anything with it… I feel your formation was just all wrong it never suited your team. wan Bissaka as a wingback is ridiculous.

[@aran7teen]

We’re better. We kick the ball forward, on the ground. Yesterday we lost to a Chelsea team who needed a season of being mediocre after spending billions. The Moyes friendly media just want to say “careful what you wish for”. Only a moron would judge us after 5 games.

[@fredtraylen4311]

New manager new players Chelsea of all teams should know how many duds u can get win your euro cup then come back until then calm down.

[@kenkc84]

I need 10x still couldn't figure out what you were trying to say

[@PedroNeves-hm5xm]

@@aran7teen our season of being mediocre would be one of your better seasons pack it in… not like you lot are little spenders yourselves either.

[@ObiCyril-z2x]

But Chelsea pumped David moyes 5-0 😂

[@kristssaulitis9255]

Literally tell me about it and it was our last meeting💯

[@RemilekunMichael]

​@@kristssaulitis9255that was at the bridge

[@Zhang1000000]

Annoying to hear video footage with a still photograph. Don't bother.

[@justanormalguy4816]

Yall would never say allat if it was City but suddenly when it's Chelsea...

[@jackforest4769]

Give Chelsea the credit mannn

[@aphiwembande8661]

Goodness me.. The guy talking about Palmer turning etc. Palmer barely did anything all game. All 3 goals were due to Nicolas Jackson's brilliance and movement but this guy just concluded "pace". Absolutely terrible football analysis

[@donnydon6522]

That part

[@aphiwembande8661]

@@donnydon6522 honestly can't believe he gets paid to spew what he just spewed

[@IhechukwuUchenna-ho1jk]

I was shocked when I heard him say that too….I was like did this dude watch the game or just came straight to analyze something he doesn’t have a clue about

[@aphiwembande8661]

@@IhechukwuUchenna-ho1jk I think he just has a bias in his mind against Jackson that doesn't allow him to comprehend how good he is hence he sprouts bs when trying to analyse him. I've seen it happen with a lot of players before and it's happening to Nico. There'll come a time when he'll be forced to accept cause he'll be too good

[@sbonelomavundla6852]

None of these pundit will ever give credit to Chelsea no matter how good they can be, it always the other team being poor on that day. They really hate this football club they can't even pretend

[@temporaryuseraccount0012]

It's against West Ham, dude. It's not as if you've beaten a top 4 side, or even looked capable of doing so, this season.

[@kristssaulitis9255]

Bro literally tell me about it💯 mans talking about Sterling mate im HAPPY HE LEFT, rincing our money and doing nothing on a pitch, he didn’t play for Arsenal yesterday against Man City, I wonder why🤔🥱

[@bonginkosisibanyoni7123]

Why are they all hating on Chelsea though? Anyway up the Chels 💙💙💙

[@kristssaulitis9255]

💯💯💯💯

[@Brixtonj-f1s]

Well done Jackson keep going mate prove the haters wrong

[@ghg27689gf]

Chelsea were good and sharp. But every time Chelsea attacked, there was no resistance from West Ham and it seemed Chelsea would score. West Ham were so low in energy. Sad and pathetic

[@rashy8699]

I don't like the way these pundits keep talking about Marasca's treatment of Sterling, they must know that Sterling is not bigger than the club.

[@Clone_Nicoffein_Doc]

I do agree about how many mistakes that's been made by west ham, but i prefer to give an applause for the other side who can utilize it, not in absolute way but still good and beautiful to watch

[@thaskoobz]

That was horrible but still willing to give the manager until November. However, not looking good but he is pragmatic. Let’s see if can turn it around. Personally hoping it’s a ploy to get Amorim still.

[@andsoistopped]

Yesterday was not worse than last season. It was bad but it wasn’t that bad.

[@brendonmunashe435]

Chelsea is the most hated club in England even when we are doing well

[@couturecriminal8330]

Funnily enough Cole Palmer did nothing in the game don't know what Dean Ashton is talking about this game was about Jackson and Caicedo dominating...

[@adamnunn2001]

It’s been FIVE games ffs, we still don’t know our best 11 we still need to get settled in the new system, and he didn’t have a whole summer with the players because most of them was at the euros and copa America so the waffle is crazy 😂

[@benclaxton5346]

Chelsea have a new manager aswell mate can't have that as an excuse we was awful and pathetic made it so easy for Chelsea

[@MakeWestHamGreatAgain]

Brighton have a new manager. Why aren't they struggling

[@Blacky-label]

Liverpool have a new manager, they are not struggling 😂😂😂

[@charlesapana9935]

They will come good for sure they have what it takes to be at the top if only the coach makes the right decision

[@Ren_neee]

chelsea will suprised you people

[@andsoistopped]

Most fans didn’t want Loppy. A lot wanted rid of Moyes because he was past it.

[@tilakrajgolari1577]

I haven't seen yet the julen way of playing.

[@liamjohnson4221]

I think a problem with West Ham is their fans act like they’re a consistent top 4 finishing club when in reality they just aren’t. Sure they’ve won the conference league and played in the Europa league a few times fairly recently but that’s basically it. Definitely not too good for Moyes.

[@BradleyVelington]

On paper their team is top 4 in the league

[@liamjohnson4221]

@@BradleyVelington idk about that, I’d say Liverpool arsenal villa Chelsea City and maybe United and toon have better squads

[@BradleyVelington]

@@liamjohnson4221 chelsea defo don’t have a better squad on paper. West ham have Kudus who has most dribbles in the league, brazils no 10, 2 national team captains, ucl finalist, championship player of the season, then chelsea have Mudryk

[@liamjohnson4221]

@@BradleyVelington come on bro, ino what ur saying but let’s not act like Chelsea are a team full of bums, UCL winners Reece James and Ben Chilwell (mostly injured ino but still in the club), Cole Palmer speaks for himself after last season, 22/23 Bundesliga top scorer Nkunku, Euros winner Cucurella, World Cup + Copa America winner Enzo Fernandez, Jadon Sancho heavily made a name for himself in Dortmund plus is also a UCL finalist.

[@fredtraylen4311]

​@@liamjohnson4221go on and win a euro cup them , one you all thought beneath you I don't mean to get funny but you have been spoilt money wise for so long and you just scraped into last euro spot go win that then people might taking u seriously again.

[@EdwardBOLINGOLIE-pw8ts]

Very happy they have start discussing for the top four matter for chelsea😂😂😂

[@corvusglaive5769]

Bro added Nicholas Jackson to the list of big-money signings🤣. Nico was cheaper than Badiashile, who is currently the worst player in Chelsea's squad🤣

[@monnisjnr4875]

Chelsea is going to shock everyone in this season

[@IBWHUTID]

The players attitude is also bad. Team of mercenaries unfortunately. Lopi is responsible to get their mind set right as well as tactics.. So far he is not up to either. However, ANYONE is better than Moyesborefest. ⚒⚒

[@Here4Hummus]

Everyone saying its because CHE beat them. No. We've now got 4PL games, a cup game and a few pre-season games worth of data. And frankly the tactics, team selections, physicality and cohesion of WHU has been awful so far. Moyes had a clear footballing plan and style....it was awful to watch and got completely found out towards the end of his tenure resulting in one of our worst defensive seasons in the club's history...but at least it was a clear style. Rational fans understand that Lop will need time to implement his style and gameplan, but saying we would be top 6 is ludicrous...the PL is incredibly competitive now, with several other middle table teams now better established with their new managers and with strong squads. Nobody was expecting 4 wins from 4 to start the season, our run-in has been one of the hardest in the league. He will get till Christmas, but so far from what's been shown, fans have are absolutely right to question what the hell is going on.

[@ejstavers587]

comment section is so cringe, im a chelsea fan but if u watched that game for the full 90 mins u could see that west ham made it easy for us

[@Skizzores]

David Moyes was doing a good enough job and they wanted him out too. Reap what you sow

[@uchaysammy]

Who in his right sense will appoint him their coach based on his records?

[@temporaryuseraccount0012]

All these Chelsea fans in the comments, complaining that their club is not getting respect for beating the likes of Wolves, Palace, Bournemouth and West Ham. 🤦‍♂ Yeah, no wonder. They're all mid-to-bottom-half / relegation contenders. You've beat no one of any significance this season. Let's see how you mange against the TOP clubs this season, when you face an Arsenal, Villa, Liverpool or Man City (who you already lost to once). Jeeze! 🤣🤣😂😂

[@temporaryuseraccount0012]

Oh, that's right... You couldn't even BEAT Palace ... You DREW, FFS! 😂😂🤣🤣

[@kristssaulitis9255]

@@temporaryuseraccount0012don’t worry bro😅 man’s talking on “temporary User” probably deleted his little KZbin account the yute 😂😅💯

[@xshannonBAKER]

Didn’t they say the same thing about Maresca with the Chelsea squad he’s inherited from Todd Bundy buying everything and anything from Wish?! They have such a huge squad, they don’t even know their best lineup

[@justanormalguy4816]

Huge squad where? Maresca is training with 23-25 first team players... Is that abnormal?

[@xshannonBAKER]

@@justanormalguy4816 Sorry do you want me to spell out how many players Chelsea have and I doubt they've gotten rid of any for the first team during the transfer window. You have like 40 players in the squad. That isn't normal....

[@samuelmayowa4789]

​@@xshannonBAKER Spell out the 40 players please

[@justanormalguy4816]

@@xshannonBAKER name the 40 players please... I want to hear them

[@Joe_BM6]

How can you possibly judge after five games? 😂😂😂

[@Seyiwale6127]

That referee did a good job by allowed that game to flow.

[@harryphiri4853]

I love Chelsea team like I don't know

[@RoyGraves-l6m]

9 new players yes fulham bad but chelsea he needs to sit down with team and what videos of all teams they play

[@robertmclean3612]

Moyes had to go but this guy isn’t the answer

[@docholiday-lm4vf]

🤣🤣🤣

[@DanielAmehson]

When city win there they are brilliant oooooh Bournemouth Chelsea got lucky

[@kristssaulitis9255]

Tell me about it bro💯

[@AdemolaAdeshina-l8y]

This pundits ain't getting it yet that Chelsea team is very very dangerous starting from back to forward line they're very good player only need to gem together n it's happening already bcuz the manager know his work better.

[@radhayebanks4623]

Why is that west ham are bad and not Chelsea is good when they win

[@kristssaulitis9255]

Tell me about it bro💯

[@danielyabdow8584]

Useless question of the pundits

[@kirksmith1458]

West Ham is not a place for no side to go and win it don'tatter which it could be city arsenal Liverpool the facts remains Chelsea play good and win the match all the noise a make just because it's Chelsea win because these analysis make Chelsea tha talk of the town

[@mikepereiradossantos4097]

What is the name of the journalist wearing the light blue dress shirt?

[@paulstuart1430]

Chelsea beat ammers 5 0 at bridge not london stadium short memories they beat chelsea 3 1 last year at london stadium

[@channel2entertainment692]

Gud coaches teaches his plays how to build attack and defend when they loose the ball... Did you see that with west ham? May be the signings of our players were from low class teams and also coming under a rusty manager who doesn't know current football..

[@simonwolfe529]

Hammers wanted Moyes out...............be careful what ya wish for..

[@Iamwhatyousayiam]

Carry on doubting us blues. I like it. It means we aren't the media darlings like Arsenal or Poch's spurs or Klopps 1 league title Liverpool.

[@adamsamuel8593]

West ham are fine stop over criticizing teams and try to speak more positive.

[@JimCornetta]

Maresca getting the job done

[@kOOL76642]

One of the worst managers to ever be in the EPL

[@trueblue96CFC]

Sky Sports anti-Chelsea agenda in full force here

[@orligachictv5724]

These pundits are really clueless. How can it be that anything Chelsea do well it's only because the opponent was woeful. Nkt

[@temporaryuseraccount0012]

Because all your opponents that you've managed to beat so far HAVE been woeful.

[@flishy936]

@@temporaryuseraccount0012 Ok and we lost to wolves away last season who were relegation threatened and woeful last szn and lost to west ham last szn away 3-1 who came 9th. Is it not signs of improvement?

[@Matt.WHU.Rayney]

The media are 80% all donkeys. Moyes was appointed back in 2017 (first time) his first 5 games. Watford (A) - 2-0 L Leicester (H) - 1-1 D Everton (A) - 4-0 Manchester City (A) - 2-1 L Chelsea (H) - 1-0 W Second time around Wolves (A) 2-0 L Arsenal (H) 1-3 L Southampton (A) 0-1 W Crystal Palace (A) 2-1 L Leicester (H) 1-2 L Jlo has had Villa (H) 1-2 L - Villa is a top side nowadays Crystal Palace (A) 0-2 W - meh we should always smash em. Manchester City (H) 1-3 L - c’mon it’s City. Fulham (A) 1-1 Chelsea (H) 0-3 All new managers needs time.

[@colinpayne2081]

In the next 5 games , everyone will realise westham have a rubbish team. Then realise Chelsea are not all that either

[@paulstuart1430]

Be funny if they were near bottom by xmas wd they go back to davie

[@cappa351]

Big up to Dean Ashton for understanding the west ham fans. We never asked for this style. We never wanted this another manager like moyes. This is not the change we was crying out for. I hope he continues to speak like this on big platforms to put the media that want to spin things in there place

[@remeo55]

Much worse at the moment!

[@TheShaneGuy]

Wonder what the odds are of West Ham bringing back Moyes again :)

[@duncanwebb5732]

Good to see West Ham fans enjoying their football again. Battered 3 zip at home. The West Ham way, finishing about 17th. Europe a distant memory. You cant fix stupid.

[@m.vinall7537]

Much worse

[@Jacob25-p3k]

Give it 6 more games and Moyes will be back

[@edelgyn2699]

🤣🤣 He's never coming back!

[@zanussidish5685]

Even Sullivan is not stupid enough to do that again

[@kriskalpa]

Bring back MOYES! he's the only one who can fix the problems.

[@StephenPadi-y8b]

They didn't believe yet Chelsea beat City to win the UCL, so watch out for Chelsea this season too

[@contagonist8478]

Lol if wan bisaka “ is one of the best defenders going one - on - one in the whole prem league” .. then he wouldnt have been sold to West ham would he? 😂

[@shinobis_shadow87]

West ham deserve this after the way they treated Moyes.

[@kristssaulitis9255]

We are 2nd best team in whole premier league last 10… 10…. 10 years so everyone here talking down on Chelsea literally need to go and learn about football and know ur right😂 we have won more trophy’s then any other club except city these 10 years, don’t care about ur past because all those players and managers are retired, don’t care about that, in modern day CHELSEA ARE BETTER THEN ANYONE ELSE BUT MAN CITY💯‼️ THATS A FACT…. FACT

[@couturecriminal8330]

Funnily enough Cole Palmer did nothing in the game don't know what Dean Ashton is talking about this game was about Jackson and Caicedo dominating...

[@robertmclean3612]

Moyes had to go but this guy isn’t the answer

[@couturecriminal8330]

Funnily enough Cole Palmer did nothing in the game don't know what Dean Ashton is talking about this game was about Jackson and Caicedo dominating...

[@couturecriminal8330]

Funnily enough Cole Palmer did nothing in the game don't know what Dean Ashton is talking about this game was about Jackson and Caicedo dominating...

[@couturecriminal8330]

Funnily enough Cole Palmer did nothing in the game don't know what Dean Ashton is talking about this game was about Jackson and Caicedo dominating...