SkyWing 48" Edge 540 ARF - Model AV8R Fun Flight

[@arrowflyte2]

Great explanation of the types of aerobatics; you steered me towards the EF Edge 😀 Amazing flying WITH commentary!!

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

Thanks very much. Yeah I prefer the Extreme Flight planes. I've owned and flown Skywing, Precision Aerobatics, and Pilot. In my opinion EF makes the best overall freestyle acro planes.

[@WarbirdPiLOT]

Dude, This is so funny, I just bought myself an FMS 1100 MXS for that exact same reason.... Those SkyWing planes keep popping up on my feed, thanks for the honest review....Great video as always Adam, high quality tips and well worth the watch...

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

That is awesome man...cool to know you fly some Freestyle! Thanks for the kind words buddy and for watching!

[@dougmoulton9666]

Very good introduction to 3D/XA. I hope it motivates some people to give that type of flying a try. As always, great flying!

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

Thanks Doug...that is the hope. Maybe understanding it may garner some interest.

[@bluecamaross]

I'mma give this TreeD stuff a try. I'm still workin on my loop de loops though...

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

@@bluecamaross LMAO!! Just keep trying buddy...those loop de loops are tough...

[@millerrc5829]

Great video Adam your in house explanation on how this works is exactly why I like these type of airframes and flying.

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

Thank you! Appreciate you watching! Freestyle and the planes capable of it are awesome...one of many great genres of the hobby!

[@davidsnyder238]

Excellent walk through and explanations! Your discussion on airframe fatigue needs to be brought up more often. So many modelers in all areas don't consider it when doing inspections of their aircraft. Different construction will absolutely affect this and longevity. Great job all the way around!

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

Thanks very much David! I've found a lot of modelers don't inspect their planes period. You have to with a Freestyle/3D plane or it will bite you eventually. I actually perform annuals on my planes at specific flight number increments for each type based on use/stress. It helps my planes are in a climate controlled hangar too...that is a blessing. Extreme temperature changes over the year in storage (like in a garage in Ga.) can really add wear to an air frame...especially balsa planes.

[@furball5553]

Does howdy dowdy have wooden balls hell yes I want to know and I will be paying attention and taking notes 📝 and watching it twice no in all seriousness you are the only channel that has taken the time to explain things great post Adam very informative 👍 oh more of anything you are willing to talk about can't get enough merry Christmas to the crew of Model AV8R 👍✌

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

Lol!! You are a riot Fur Ball! Thanks very much buddy! Be looking for a release from us on the 24th...the Model AV8R crew has some Christmas wishes for all of you too!!

[@IansRCExploits]

WOW!! Amazing flying skills Adam!! And I enjoyed all the theory, as always great camera work and editing from Heidi, Happy Christmas from me and Cheryl 😄👍

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

Thanks so much Ian! As always we appreciate your kind words! Merry Christmas to you and Cheryl as well my friend! Check out our vid on the 24th...lil Christmas thing...

[@dutchloveRC]

Nice episode guys!!

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

Thank you Joel!

[@Ryan_Elmore]

AWESOME VIDEO ADAM! It's cool to know that my training means so much to you and I cannot thank you enough, the parts you said were bad, (many can't do). The flying was incredible and so was the camera work from Heidi. The sequences and transitions were smooth especially the ke spin, into parachute, into harrier (that was smooooooth). By far my favorite video of yours and an excellent note taking tool for all 3D pilots including me. Your channel is growing fast and with top notch , excellently made content like this, you will be up there with the big rc youtubers soon! Love the video and cannot wait to continue to learn and be mentored by one of the best pilots in GA!

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

Ryan I'm glad you liked it! You inspired it buddy. Your training is important to me for sure...should be to any instructor/mentor. Thanks very much for the kind words! I look forward to watching you surpass my skills in freestyle...and you will.

[@JustwingitRC]

Simply awesome video my brother! I totally appreciate the thorough explanation about the model plane, how it was built, the stresses it endures, etc. I also really like the explanation of all the subtle differences between the flight styles. And your flying, well, let's just say it was amazing! Heidi captured all the shenanigans wonderfully, as usual! All the best my friend and Merry Christmas to you both 🎄😎🎄👍!

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

Thank you so much John! Be looking out for a quick vid on the 23rd or 24th...enjoy your time with family brother! Merry Christmas to you and yours as well!!

[@rcaviationcrawling7351]

Very cool, sir.

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

Thanks very much! Glad you liked it and thank you for the comment.

[@helmuthuneke1775]

woohoo.....boaaa that is insane stuff Sir i salute to your flight skills

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

Thank you Helmut! I appreciate the kind words...lots and LOTs of practice! Lol

[@weshillsberry6275]

Was hoping to see the setup page on this plane lol

[@Yankee2003]

Adam thank you for the video. I love your channel. So much better than the usual “Horizon Salesman” …this is a great airplane..video. I appreciate the time and information you put in. Flying sequences with commentary was very enjoyable. Well done. Mike

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

Thank you very much Michael! So glad you like our style! Appreciate the kind words.

[@stephensowell9578]

Hay, thanks for that. Although I am not in the scope of your skill, the critical examination of your flight was very informative and educational.

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

Thank you Stephen very much. I am critical of myself for sure...always room for improvement. I love several styles of flying, but when it comes to freestyle acro I fly with three gentlemen that are dedicated freestyle pilots...that is all they do. As a result they are all much better than I am. Very educational and humbling for me to fly with those guys. Humble is good...

[@YetAnotherRcChannel]

Thanks for sharing this. I usually pile up my planes before 150 flights. So I guess a tired and wobbly airframe won't be too much of an issue😉 The hybrid construction looks like a cool consept.

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

It is neat for sure, but I still prefer balsa 3D planes. Thanks for checking it out!

[@jimshuck7555]

I agree! I am new to 3D so if this plane makes it 150 flights ($1 a flight for the airframe) I will be a very happy man and a much better pilot!

[@rlbutterfield]

GREAT video and explanation! 👍🏻

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

Thank you! It was a long one, but its a complicated subject with many caveats. Thanks for watching it all!!

[@flystol]

Awesome flying man! I keep thinking I don’t have the right plane for some of those maneuvers u did wich somewhat may be the case but I’m afraid it’s largely the pilot! Videos like this help me to believe one day I’ll get there 👍

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

Thank you very much Will! Practice and more practice...you'll get there for sure!

[@CliffHarveyRCPlanes]

I'm not really into aerobatics Adam but that was really interesting from start to finish, perhaps I'll try harder, thanks for sharing your wisdom, have a great Christmas and New Year, cheers 👍

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

I dunno Cliff...I beg to differ. I've seen you take off a Gyro copter. Lol! Thanks for the kind words Cliff. You and yours have a great Christmas and new year as well! Be looking for a little something for all our viewers to release on the 24th...involving a little plane you might like...

[@paraglidingpassion338]

Love it great video buddy.

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

Thanks!

[@purcellrcaviationchannel]

This should be an Olympic sport, Adam! Only thing... don't let 'Bubba' join the team!! :o)) When 'Bubba' appeared, why, I almost spat my green tea over my computer, chap!! Very enjoyable video, learnt loads, even if I'll never fly like as good as that.

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

Lol!! Well...I owed you one Gina! Glad we both didn't fry our keyboards! Don't worry...we keep one eye on Bubba at all times. Thanks for the kind words miss Gina!

[@epoweredrc]

Another very nice video, cool plane but I often wondered about how the foam would hold up to continuous flights. most of my planes see 300+ flights in a year if its something i really enjoy flying. I bet you get a 60" EF next year. I love my 60" EF Extra 300 V1, if i ever replaced it i am not sure what i would get, I really like the new NG Extra 300 but skywing make some nice bigger planes also. Hope you and Heidi have a very Merry Christmas. We look forward to the next video.

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

Hey Chris thanks bud! I love 60" stuff but I don't have room for one! I have the 3DHS 75" and Extreme Flight 85" Edges...so when I'm not in a hurry I assemble/disassemble those. The 48's are easy to store and I can get one in my Explorer assembled. Y'all have a awesome Christmas as well! We have a little something on the 24th for our viewers...you will dig it a lot knowing you...

[@epoweredrc]

@@ModelAV8RChannel Totally understand, I flew smaller planes for many years for that reason. Awesome, cant wait to see what it is.

[@MichaelModtland]

Would polyacrylic add to much weight if you painted air frame for strength an would it add enough strength?

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

It will add some weight without really adding any strength that matters with this particular plane. It can handle the flight forces fine, and what makes it weaken over time is internal...not external. For the best flight performance on a 3D plane...leave it light.

[@weshillsberry6275]

Couple years late but i just built one of these curious what throws u ended up with for high rates normal 34 to 35* on alerion and 50ish on elevator? No as3x? What gain settings?

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

Hey man, sorry I'm doing this from memory so bare with me. I gave this one away to a kid at the field about a year ago. I think I was between 33 and 35 deg on aileron, 55 or 60 deg on elevator, and all I could get on rudder without banging it against the elevator. My expo was around 65 to 70% on aileron and elevator and 35 to 40% on rudder. No gyro.

[@justinfleming2683]

For the harrier loop, do you have flaperons mixed on a switch for it? Or was that just all elevator? Really looking forward to the Extreme flight 48” vid!!! 😎

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

Hey Justin...you see some folks using all kinds of funky mixes to get certain planes to do things like this. The beauty of a dedicated freestyle/3D plane is that they don't need anything like that to perform their intended mission. That was simply a burst of power and elevator. When a plane like this is set up correctly (balance is key) the only mix you'll typically see is a knife edge mix using aileron and elevator to get rid of the coupling. It is a very small mix and you just leave it on full time. It affects other things very little and we just naturally compensate for that. No switch flipping needed, and to be honest in a flowing freestyle routine you don't really have time to flip switches. The 48 Extreme Flight is coming in a few weeks!

[@justinfleming2683]

@@ModelAV8RChannel I’ve been teaching myself some 3D over the last season with a few twisted hobbies models (better than a sim imo but I still use rf9.5), and just recently finished assembling the offshore variation of the 38” Wargo edge 540t 15e made by “Future Model” which is available for me locally at a hobby shop who imports them! Identically similar to this skywing in build. I don’t have any experience with balsa yet but I thought this may be a decent transition from 3D to XA! I don’t use a gyro in anything except one of my larger scratch built edf’s, but my question I’m finally getting at is…. Would a gyro rx like As3x benefit, or detract from XA and precision type flying? This will also be the first model I’ll need to learn to mix coupling so I’m looking forward to that learning process! Precision Aerobatics models are also available locally here so that’s goin to eventually be my final transition to a Balsa potentially at the end of this season if I can fit enough practice in!

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

Justin you've asked a complicated question...so here goes. Sorry if its long. I'm a believer in learning without a gyro. Not that gyros are bad, but you can't learn how to set up an air frame and get the most out of it if there is a gyro masking things you need to "feel". Also when it comes to technique I teach to learn to make all the corrections needed. Something as simple as a harrier can teach you a lot if you are feeling everything. You'll find out what angle of attack actually gets the plane post stall and stops the wing rock...you'll also find out what balance point makes it easier with less correction. With a gyro the plane will be stable at all angles of attack and it will make a lot of the tiny corrections you should be learning how to make yourself. (my opinion, not gospel) If later on you want to use a gyro at least you'll know the basics of set up and the maneuvers. Remember gyros can do two things - One : They can shine up a turd. You can put one in a air frame with no set up and they will instantly make it fly alright. Two: They can be used with low gains to refine a well set up air frame. That my friend will fly awesome...not just alright. The kicker is...if you don't know how to properly set up the plane and get the most out of the air frame first, you can't do that. The other train of thought for me personally is paying it forward. I help a lot of people...some use gyros, some don't. I need to be able to get the most out of a plane for them both ways. To stay sharp I fly mostly without gyros. Always without in a 3D plane I own. Those skills are too hard not to. I'm afraid if I use a gyro and get used to it being easier I'll lose my touch with a 3D plane without them. Also...and again this is just how I am...I like the challenge and I like having the skill sets. That is a lot of the fun for me. Now...all that said anyone who wants to fly Flex Innovations planes or Horizon planes that have a gyro...on or off...nothing in the world wrong with that. Anyone that wants to put one in a balsa plane...nothing wrong with that either. It depends on what your goal is Justin. If you want to learn all facets of 3D/XA/Freestyle flying including being able to set up anything and fly it well...learn without a gyro. If you just want to do 3D well as fast as possible and make it easier for yourself...use a gyro. Either way is fine. Hope that long answer sheds some light on it for you. Happy flying my friend!

[@justinfleming2683]

@@ModelAV8RChannel Well… That totally clears the fog for me! I’m happy to continue to learn minus the stabilizer as I think I’ve done absolutely fine without it up to this point! I will aspire to learn every possible skill set necessary to grow myself as a pilot! I find the challenges of flying and problem solving aspects of building extremely fun and it’s so incredibly rewarding! I greatly appreciate the time you’ve taken to reply to me and the effort put forth in your thoughts behind it! This hobby (flying) has been the best thing yet to challenge myself! There’s so many aspects to get correctly and I haven’t even got into the larger scale versions yet! Thank you sir! And see you in your next vid. Cheers

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

@@justinfleming2683 Awesome Justin. Enjoy your journey. It will be very rewarding! BTW...sims and crack yaks are excellent practice.

[@1101nz]

Great explaination of XA & ele aileron size , and nice routine . Its PP , not EPP :-) I have a few 48" Skywing/FM's . Love them

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

Thanks very much and thanks for watching! They are very cool little planes. I wish they still made the 38" ones...I'd like to try one of those. Thanks for correcting me on the skin. Some places (like Rc castle where I looked...go figure) still use the EPP abbreviation to describe it, some use PP, and Supa Tim at Northwest just calls it foam skin...lol. I see now looking at a different forum thread (for their Laser) that the early versions of these were EPP and now they are PP. When I do the comparison to the Extreme flight I will correct this. That will happen sooner than I thought as well...Northwest had a few in stock still and I have one in my shop as we speak. Thanks again for the info and I appreciate the kind words!

[@jriley-tv1on]

What part of the country are you flying in?

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

Georgia.

[@jcpoolshark]

Miss seeing your 3D ability.

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

So do I...lol! That's why I'm practicing. Thanks buddy...we got to go flying...you, your dad, and I. Been WAY to long...

[@rlbutterfield]

You are hard on yourself!

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

I am Randy, but with realistic expectations. This is stuff I know I can nail every time on time. I think there is more frustration with not being able to practice it as much more than anything. lol.

[@rlbutterfield]

@@ModelAV8RChannel at least you’re able to fly. Cold and weather have put severe restrictions here in Michigan.🥺

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

Hopefully the wx will improve soon!

[@gisall8205]

Hey Buddy. I've been subscribed to your Channel for a long time now. Hopefully you can help me out. I have a DX9 Transmitter. Can you direct me to s Good video that walks me through, how to program a New, out of the box AR630 Receiver. With SAFE and AS3X. It would be greatly appreciated if you could. THANKS.

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

Hey man, yep, it isn't hard at all. Once you do it the first time, you'll be of and running. In this video he is talking about a AR637T and using a NX6, but it works the same with a AR630 and your DX9 as long as it is updated and has the forward programming option. kzbin.info/www/bejne/iGTNfYh3mZqXjK8

[@gisall8205]

@@ModelAV8RChannel Thanks for the assistance Brother.