SLEEP TRAINING PROGRESSION 😴 | FERBER METHOD | KAYLA BUELL

Here's a look at Jackson's sleep training progression using the Ferber Method! Make sure to watch part 1 too! Love you guys! xoxox, Kayla
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[@hannahjoy4857]

This is going to make so many parents feel not alone. Thanks for this!

[@3vhellov]

Watching this 3 years later. Thanks for showing us the reality of sleep training!

[@britanivazquez8356]

Thank you for being so real and open it makes me feel like I’m not broken that I’m doing the best I can and other moms go through the same thing.

[@blackpup3]

This was really good. Everyone talks about this and I just think I needed to see what it actually looks like while doing it. So now I have to gather my strength and find the right moment to do it because I’m at a point where I have to do something. Thank you so much!

[@Jillydisco]

How did it go😭

[@tetiannagreen7145]

After 13 years and two kids later. I’m pregnant again with twins .15 years ago I had to sleep train my 8 week old. I had to start back working at 6 weeks and had to be on the job at 5:45am. I know sleep training is not supposed to be appropriate at 8weeks old but after cosleeping and waking up with my forearm on baby’s forehead I know I had to make a plan. The first night took 45mins for her to stop crying. The second shorter time. By the forth night she went down without a problem. With twins on the way I’m praying it’s as easy as my first. 😅. Difference is I had no problem with waking up throughout the night to feed especially since she was breastfed. But the first 4 hours of uninterrupted sleep meant the world of difference. I’m aware this video is three years old. Good job mama looking forward to the rest of your videos.

[@nicolenapolitano5200]

You have way more patience then I do!!! My son is 3 months and he sleeps in my bed every night (not by choice.. he hates his bassinet)... can’t wait til he’s 5 months so I can start sleep training😓 you’re an amazing momma and such a strong woman. Thank you for these videos!! Makes me feel less alone in this baby sleep journey ❤️

[@ashleygrimes2766]

Thank you for putting out so much content lately, it’s so appreciated in times like this! We are gentle sleep training our son so these videos are super helpful

[@chanmike13]

My daughter took 30 minute naps until around 6 months when I switched her onto two naps, they started consolidating. Definitely suggest switching to 2 naps and extending those wake windows! Even if he does look sleepy, push through!

[@veeram1789]

Hey Kayla, I don't know if you read this, but I just had to message you. I feel like my son has had identical sleep issues and other issues to Jackson, reflux etc. He is also born in December -19. We tried everything, and when I say that I mean EVERYTHING. After spending loads on sleep consultants and trying multiple different sleep training styles, one of our doctors had the idea of checking his ferritin (iron) levels. They were really really low, as were mine too (which probably caused his low levels). We got an iron supplement for him and the change is unbeliveable! He sleeps so good now, takes great naps and is happy for the full wakeup time. He also would be super tired after 2 hours every time. I don't know if this helps or if it is the iron thing with you, but maybe it is worth of checking out! Especially if the sleep training is not seeming to work. 😊

[@aprilsummers9930]

Thank you for putting this out there and sharing your experiences. I had previously watched your video of sleep training Riley. That is what motivated me to try it with my almost 5 month old. He was previously napping being held or in his swing, and he was co-sleeping with me at night. I did kind of a modified version since he’s still so young. But he now will sleep the majority of the night in his bassinet and almost all naps are in his crib! It was definitely harder for me than him! But we are both getting better sleep now, even though we don’t get it perfect.

[@A_RayChan_Joint]

going through this right now with my daughter. 2 nights in, 1 night was rough, 2nd night was rougher, but the mornings got better. Doing this is like fighting every paternal instinct in your body; to go in there and start soothing them as soon as they cry, but in the long run babies need to know how to self sooth, and to be an optimal parent we need our sleep too to look after our child. Thanks for the video, it's very accurate to a lot of what we are going through at the moment. Most videos or online reading only talks about the steps, but doesn't show what we see here, which is a baby crying intensely for an hour straight, that's a reality hit, set backs and adapting to the situation.

[@saramalakov2395]

It’s all about wake windows for us! We just transitioned my 6.5mo to 2 naps with 2.5/3/3.5 wake windows. She’s been taking at least 1.5hr naps for each! She does get cranky around 2hrs but we just push through by carrying her around and playing quietly so she’s not over stimulated. I hope the sleep consultant can help :) You both are doing so great!!

[@leahvatson6379]

It broke my heart when you said you suck at sleep training 😩 you are his mom and you know him best and what he needs at the moment. if you had to give up sleep training for that nap and just cuddle him in my opinion you don’t suck! You are listening to your instincts and doing what’s best for your baby 🥰

[@abbylheureux1317]

Thank you for posting and be vulnerable! You’re my favorite mom youtuber😊 I’m about to sleep train my almost 6 month old after we get the okay from his ped and your videos help so much! You got this mama💛

[@madalynnr9940]

I love how you modify things to work for you and your family 💜 especially with all the all or nothing advice out there I have no idea if I'll sleep train or not or what kind of combo I'll do or when but I really like how you explain things and showcase them so people can see if it's right for them ❤️

[@jeandesasam5587]

Hi momma! You have mentioned that Jackson doesn’t last 2hrs before being cranky. But I think that pushing his wake window longer will help his naps to lengthen, he might be cranky cuz of other reasons like he is bored and needed a new scenery, teething. I have a 5month 2 week old and we have struggled with the crappy 30 mins naps for soooo long until I followed appropriate wake windows for his age. I transitioned him from 4-3 naps when he was 4.5months old and that’s when I increased his wake window and his naps finally lengthen. Now, we are following a 2/2.25/2.5/2.5 wake times (on 3 naps). Jackson fighting his last nap could be a sign he he ready to drop that last nap and switch to 2 naps. Yes it will lead to early bedtimes for a few days but that will also help lengthen his naps. I would say try a 2.5/3/3 wake times for him (that’s 2 naps) push through the wake times, keep him entertained before putting him at the appropriate times. Hope this helps! ❤️❤️

[@annettesoriano4618]

I agree! My son is 6 months on Sunday and at 4 1/2 months I increased his wake times and went from four naps to three naps and his naps went from 30 minutes long to 1 1/2 to 2 hours long. I think at Jackson’s age he should be down to two naps now and overtime that should help his naps lengthen. Give it a try! Praying for your and little babe 🥰

[@alejandradelcastillo4459]

@@annettesoriano4618 Same here! I say longer wake time periods. Mine is 7 months is a few days and I just keep her up a little longer closer to 4 hours if she is not very cranky. I just keep her entertained and when she starts getting fussy is either because she is probably bored or hungry. As soon as she starts getting super fussy, I take her outside for a couple of min to change the scenery and when we come back in, she's like a new baby. Usually going outside for a min helps kinda put her self back together. I can tell she is getting sleepy if she is really really fussy then I see if its been 3 or 4 hrs since she's been awake so I m like yep she's tired. My babe also has a 1.5 to 2 hr naps. we have 2 naps now.

[@annaparsons5026]

This!!! Def start pushing his wake windows!

[@teleanor7910]

Hi! What were your wake windows when he was 5 months old? Thanks

[@maryporter3637]

I’m sitting watching this as I go through the process it’s allowing me to feel supported thanks so much

[@stacyannmyers1481]

I love how your soo consistent with how much you put out! I love it and appreciate it!!! I was looking forward to this video! Youre doing great! THINGS may not always be great but know you are DOING great! My son is 4 months old and I am going to try this Ferber Method once he hits 6 months. Thanks for sharing!

[@dasha_8]

Watching this with my four month old daughter at three a.m because she’s REFUSING to go back to sleep! Thank you so much for your videos!

[@JA420love]

Dr. Ferber has since renounced his past sleep training methods. Look into how detrimental ferberizing can be. Good luck on your journey :)

[@tamstreisel4751]

This sleep training thing is so new to me. Parents in my home country don't do this so Im not familiar with it. My daughter is 5 month old now. I have been nursed her to sleep yet she woke up crying then throwing up mostly every night. I can't even think of sleep train her.

[@emileeengelhardt9373]

Definitely time for two naps. With my clients who have 6-8 month olds, I suggest wake windows of wake up 2hrs-3hrs-4hrs bedtime

[@timeaseress4273]

How about 12 months old babies? We are now doing app. 3hrs-4hrs-4hrs bedtime and it seems to be working. Thanks in advance :)

[@jenMo23]

This is exactly our routine 👆

[@ashleynicole2546]

Emilee Engelhardt Mine is almost 8 months and still does 3 naps. He does tend to wake up early though, like 6am daily, so two naps and getting to bedtime just isn’t enough for him. The last nap is always a cat nap still though. My dude just can’t hang past 2-3 hours though. I definitely try food and diaper and a change in activity and he will start doing the eye rub, so I know it is that he is tired is why he is fussing.

[@annaabbott9778]

My 7 month old dropped to two naps last month, he wakes up at 6am, first nap at 9, next nap at 2 , and bedtime at 7. He only gets 2.5 hours of daytime sleep, if he gets more he wakes yo at 4am/5am.

[@dacrazyone88]

We do 3/3/3 7.5 months now

[@annikavahk5545]

Thank you for sharing this 3 years ago. It is super helpful to me today!! ❤

[@achristine2195]

I hate when people post rude stuff about sleep training, nobody is telling anybody what they need to do, it's all personal preference. But Jackson can't sleep in your room forever, yeesh people are so rude. Love your videos.

[@aditikala8080]

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[@rubywalters5968]

Jackson looks sooo sleepy all the time it makes me sad. You’re strong bc I would be breaking down on camera lol

[@AlejandraFloresAcaboDeLeer]

I am doing it right now and listening my LG crying is braking my heart. I only hope it's for the best.

[@scharondiaz5951]

We used the little ones sleep program and they offer sleep consultations and the program has been amazing. Baby boy used to nap for only 30 mins and was waking up every 2hrs at night😬 my baby is 6 months old and now does 9am wake up, 11:30 nap for 30 min, 2:30 nap for 2 hours and between 6pm-6:40pm 10 min nap if needed, and 9pm bedtime.

[@jamiedavis9113]

These videos really help people like me who have a hard time hearing my baby cry! It helps me see that you’re doing it too and we’re both going through sleep training together lol.

[@margerangel7272]

Reason I’m watching this video: Just love your videos 😅

[@rachelmcintosh933]

So I think a lot of the issue is scheduling with Jackson. He sounds undertired for most naps and bedtime which is why he is waking early and taking short naps and fighting bedtime as well. He is probably ready for two naps and longer wake times.

[@amandasara2199]

I’m planning on sleep training my 6 month old daughter too, I’m so exhausted, and it’s time to get her out of our bed. She’s too big and wakes too often. Thank you for letting us into your experience ❤️

[@allyseib4850]

You mentioned mesh bumpers, I highly recommend them. My baby who is now 9 months would move around in her crib then get her arms or legs stuck then wake up cause she couldn’t get them out. I bought the mesh bumpers and she started sleeping way longer and that wasn’t an issue anymore.

[@ashleynicole2546]

I think his crawling and learning new skills is probably more of the sleep culprit than teething. Teething isn’t supposed to really be something that interrupts sleep until teeth are about to break through. When they learn new skills though, then they wake up and try to start using them (such as crawling around the crib in the middle of the night). I also think he knows that if he cries enough in the middle of the night, you will nurse him to sleep in bed. You might need to nurse him in a chair or in bed but put him back in the crib after nursing so he knows that he can’t cry long enough to get to come to bed. We also stopped all feeding until it was time to get up when we sleep trained so he wouldn’t wake up and think he needs food super early every morning. Ours waits until 7am after feeding last at 7pm. We just make sure he eats real often during the day. Just some food for thought!

[@sapphire965]

That makes so much sense!! That'd be like if you randomly got the ability to fly or something. You wouldn't want to sleep, you'd want to practice your new super power! :)

[@ashleynicole2546]

Brianna Frame Yep, especially babies since they don’t understand appropriate time and place kind of stuff yet, so of course we want to hang out and crawl in our crib at 4am 😆

[@lessehead]

I don’t think crawling and learning has anything to do with it! As a mother of two grown kids, I think babies have to learn how to self-soothe, and that is why the Ferber method works. They are going to cry; it’s what babies do. I would stop trying to analyze it and just let him figure it out.

[@xxsoccerchick2015xx]

We used Ferber method with our little one around 6 months! It took us about a month to get night time down with her & with naps it took us a little long however she only takes one nap & has since 6 months, she goes down for bed at 6-6:30 and sleeps till 6:30ish in the morning then naps for 3 hours during the day after 3-4 hours after being awake! You got this momma, you’re doing great, it gets easier

[@csoeva]

I'm so glad that I never had to "train" my baby to sleep. He loves rocking so we bought him a baby hammock. He falls asleep without fussing. 15-20 mins later I can move him to his bed as he goes to the deep sleep stage.

[@yyhhsss]

how old is your baby? This method only worked for us till the baby was about 3.5 months

[@melissameliss9575]

Yeah but what about when u are at someone else house?.. Is better for babies to learn to sleep anywhere with noise and without noise.

[@carrieleitholf776]

What we did with my six month old that really helped was we would feed him then bathe him and lay him down. This helped him not associate bottle/boob with sleeping! Good luck :)

[@tenesha8124]

This worked with all 4 of mine.

[@emileeengelhardt9373]

Sleep consultant here. Ferber takes a long time-that’s why it’s not my recommendation :) sleep sense program all the way!

[@kimhedges4697]

Sleep Sense is what we used! It took about 3 days and was AMAZING.

[@vanessac1388]

What is sleep sense program, if you don't mind me asking?

[@Minnazs]

What is that?

[@abbielehnerd673]

I wish I had money to afford it 😭😭

[@melissameliss9575]

Ferber method took my baby 1 day.. But takes forever if you are not consistent and constantly changing everything.

[@emilybladorn6952]

Have you guys thought about maybe switching who takes care of which kid? I know Joe usually takes care of Riley at night, but maybe give yourself a week or so of taking care of Riley like Joe normally does and letting Joe do the sleep training with Jackson at night? You could even pump and give Joe bottles for Jackson. This might give you a bit of a break and Riley might really love some extra momma time.

[@TinaMartinez97]

My baby is 4.5 months and for the last 6-7 weeks he has been waking up every 1-3hrs at night. Sometimes staying up for 2-3hrs crying, falling asleep for 5min, crying, etc. Not going to him doesn’t work, so I have to comfort him every single time. I tried the Ferber method the last night and he woke up 11x in total. I try to only nurse him 2x at night. He goes down easily most naps and mostly at bedtime, but I have a very hard time letting him cry longer than 4mins at a time. Also we share a room so it’s extra hard to hear him cry at night when I am in the same room. I will try this tonight and make the Intervalls a little bit longer, but modify the Ferber method to my needs. I can’t take this anymore him waking up 11x a night, I did it for 6-7 weeks but I can’t anymore

[@shadiaassi4037]

I 100% recommend Taking Cara Babies - even if not buying her 5-24 month program, just following her IG. She openly says that night sleep is conquered before naps and pushing wake windows (gently of course) to match your baby’s development. Her tips and sleep program have worked WONDERS on our little guy, who is the same age as Jackson. We were having the exact same issues from the start and she got us to a place where he was sleeping through the night by 12 weeks and conquered naps around 20 weeks. That all said, you’re doing a great job and you’ve got this!

[@arianna2011]

I am sleep training day 3 as I watch this and this is giving me some hope because Jackson’s temperament is so close to my daughters so I am hoping she’ll start to come around very soon. It’s a struggle hearing her cry

[@leah-louisehughes3454]

Maybe because he’s falling asleep in your bed in the morning it’s confusing him!. He might scream that bit longer cause he knows he does get to sleep in your bed! When you get the rocking chair it might be better cause you could nurse him there and then put him back in the crib if it’s to early to wake up! Hope it’s going good though love your videos

[@charlottegrice]

I missed this comment & realise I pretty much just repeated your comment 🙈 😅 makes sense though ☺️

[@leah-louisehughes3454]

Charlotte Wilby that’s okay haha, but yeah I done sleep training with my daughter and it meant I couldn’t let her in my bed at all or it would confuse her even if I done it for a couple of hours here and there x

[@qasidabyjawaher174]

Hey I’m not judging or anything, just wanted to give you lots of love and u r strong for being able to do this, I came across your video when I was thinking to sleep train my 5 month old and wanted to get info abt different methods. Your little ones crying broke my heart and I was crying with him and that’s when I knew I couldn’t do this. I’m glad it worked for you and ur family but I don’t have the heart to do it. Thanks

[@emilyk.w3593]

I just have to say thank you for these videos!

[@sweetz4u621]

When i was sleep training my daughter she would burn up and feel hot, it would be cold and I would give her a full pajama not fleece but she would cry and cry and I tried a short sleeve onsie and long pants and she would sleep so much better and fall asleep faster.

[@farheensiddiqui9056]

oh my god Jackson went through so much. but still he did well. more strength to u mama and jackson cutie

[@EllaCallahanG]

Yess! So glad he’s letting you sleep a little more. I’d say go for the mesh liner!! I got one from amazon and now lil dude doesn’t get his arm stuck between the railing & he can’t lose his paci in the middle of the night.

[@lessehead]

I always had bumpers all the way around my crib to prevent that...everyone did in the 80’s and 90’s. Is that not a thing any more?

[@yaminiramkumar7336]

I am watching your videos as I sleep train my 9th month old girl , naps training can be brutal

[@limiwa]

I know this video is old but ... I also have a Riley (Ryleigh) and a Jackson (Jaxon) lol. I'm currently sleep training my Jaxon. Since he's 4.5 months I'm staying in the room at nights while shushing and patting him (chair method). Took him an hour initially to fall asleep. So so hard to sit through even though I was right there to comfort him 😞 Surprisingly his first nap was 2 hours but I think he was just so tired from less sleep at night. Anyway, this was helpful to see how it works for someone else.

[@kaylynbroussard4122]

Natalie Wiles is an awesome sleep consultant! She did a q&a video with Susan Yara awhile back on sleep training and I learned a lot from it. When we trained my daughter, we surprisingly had more trouble with bedtime rather than naps. But even before sleep training, she took decent naps. I never had a problem with short naps but she always slept on me before sleep training. Also, I think letting him sleep in your bed in the morning may be confusing him. My daughter is 19 months now and the days when she accidentally passes out on me or in my bed, she has some issues the next day or 2 when she goes to sleep in her bed. You don't suck at sleep training! It may be that he's just not ready. We didn't sleep train until my daughter was 10 months old and she did very well then. I think he may be ready to slowly increase his wake times and try to drop that last nap of the day. Keep your head up, mama! I am so surprised Riley is being a champ through all this! I always get worried when my 19 month old wakes up in the middle of the night crying that she'll wake up my 8 year old lol

[@emilyk.w3593]

How did you teach your baby to nap in the crib instead of on you? Thanks

[@brittanymiller8855]

Great video! Love you guys. Your videos are always good!!

[@brookedolliver238]

Try using lullabies at bedtime and when they wake up early/in the night

[@beckydenno4862]

It has been really nice to watch your sleep training videos while I am pregnant with my first (37 weeks). It has led to some great discussions with my husband about how things can go, how we want to handle it, and how we will eventually sleep train months from now. We are going to do the Taking Cara Babies sleep training eventually but it seems pretty similar to Ferber so it is great to see it in action. Especially because it hasn't been simple for you, so I know how strong I will need to be. Even when you end up comforting him, it is so clear how strong you are and how much you love your little dude. Everyone getting even some sleep is a success!!!

[@letashamaree3002]

Thank you. I'm on day 3 of sleep training. I feel so bad for picking him up and soothing when the pat down doesn't work. Taking it one day at a time.

[@zuney5268]

How did it go?

[@n.moultrie6694]

JACKSON IS SO CUTE I CANT

[@ashleyremington257]

We just sleep trained too! We used the owlet dream lab. Our schedule is up at 7 first wake window is 2 hrs second and third wake windows are 2.5 hours! Worked beautifully for us.

[@hannahgonterman3969]

I would say drop the third nap adjust your wake up time like start the day at 7 730 and despite How grumpy he is keep him up for at least three hours I had to with my baby who never slept. It was so freaking hard but had to be done I was soooo tired.

[@Y_Gymraes]

Power to you Kayla. You don't suck. You're doing your best and going with your instincts. These sleep training methods don't seem to take teething or bad days into account. Babies have days when they just need extra cuddles, so you're doing what you think is best and being flexible. Power to you 💕 Thank you for positing this. It's kind of annoying seeing a lot of these sleep training videos on KZbin that go perfect like "Yeah day 2 of sleep training my baby slept 12hours". I'm like 'oh please! that baby probably didn't even need sleep training' and I just click off the video. At least your videos are realistic. This will be what a lot of peoples experience will look like 👍

[@johannajohannes1049]

80k yay so happy for you kayla

[@aliyamcreynolds7875]

I’m 21, unmarried and have no children but I was just curious about how sleep training works because my mom did the same with me and my brother and it worked out great (especially since my mom brought us up as a single mother and she had to deal with a newborn and a toddler on her own)

[@jackiefernandez2765]

Both my boys have always been great night sleepers both slept through the night by 8-9 weeks. But naps have never been good I’ve just given up on them I don’t stress myself out about it. My 10 month old only takes 1 nap if that and usually the longest I can get him down is 1 hr. He gets sleepy around 6 pm but we just keep him up because he’s time is at 8. Just follow his lead and don’t stress so much about a schedule. That’s my advice

[@marm2077]

My baby is 8.5 months and fights the third nap of the day HARD but puts herself to sleep fine for the others. She's not ready for just 2 naps I've tried recently. I just rock her for the third nap only and she's out like a light. Doesn't mess with her ability to put herself down for the other naps/night time at all

[@halimayeasmin2720]

Hi Kayla, I have a few questions 1. Is sleep training possible if I have my baby's cot in my room? 2. I can't maintain a strict sleep schedule. Does that impact sleep training? 3. It is important to unswaddle baby to attempt the sleep training. My 5 month old baby is still in her swaddle ? Could you advise. Thanks alot

[@LynetteGR]

We're going through this as well and we also have a baby who doesn't take long naps (usually 35 mins). It's so nice to see the reality of what sleep training looks like! You're doing great!

[@siatriantafyllos4132]

As everyone has been saying, if the wake windows increased then naps would probably improve, which would in turn make the time leading up to and including bedtime better. But the second thing I wanted to suggest is: as difficult as it is, when you put him down at night, I don't think you are "supposed to" have him fall asleep nursing some nights and not others. He's got to go in wide awake every night of training (and ideally every night after that too). You notice how the night after he nursed to sleep he cried 40 minutes at bedtime BUT also slept the longest through the night? If he was going in wide awake every night the crying at bedtime would gradually decrease day by day AND he would be more likely to give you full nights because when he's putting himself to sleep at the beginning of the night he's more able to easily do it without fuss when he wakes slightly overnight. Picture it like this: if you fell asleep in your living room at 9pm, and then woke up a couple of hours later in you bedroom with no recollection of how you got there, wouldn't you kind of be like, "what the hell?" for a bit? But when you fall asleep on your own in your bedroom at night and wake up slightly in the middle of the night, it's nothing. You probably just go back to sleep without making a peep, or even realizing your awake. That's what needs to happen with Jackson. Hope that makes sense! I only mention it because any sleep consultant worth their salt will tell you this. Wanted to save you the hassle and cost, lol. :) Good luck!

[@jesystar]

Hi I know this comment was posted 3 years ago and it seems as if you are knowledgeable in the area of sleep training. I was wondering since no one talks about the use of pacifier... my daughter has been using it since day one and has been a decent nap and sleeper but now at 5.5 month she's having a hard time when she wakes up and can't put the paci on her mouth... she is getting better tho but am I hindering her by letting her use it? And my daughter is a panick attack crier meaning her cries sounds like she is having a panic attack and it scares me I can't let her cry more than 3min... also she seems to wake up every night at the same time for a bottle feed... I don't even know what my question is at this point I just want her to ge able to put herself down to sleep without me helping her every time she can't find the paci... another thing we live in a one bedroom apt.. not sure if hubby and I should start sleeping in the living room to properly sleep train her.

[@hazimabdulrahman]

Emotionally, hows the baby? any changes on his behavior?do he become more attached to you or distant?

[@mspiffyj]

I was SO excited when you said he slept all the way through that one night! My first baby is 20 days old (he just fell asleep nursing while I watched this video- thanks!), and I may look into the Ferber method when we’re there! I don’t understand why Jackson is so anti-sleep!!! I remember watching your videos when he was 7 weeks old and he would grunt all night and not sleep then, either. Jackson, SLEEP!!! Give mommy and daddy (and Riley!) a break!

[@SuffolkExplorers]

Hi, I thought I would message as I'm going to start the Ferber method with my 6 1/2 month old (he sleeps exactly the same as your son) did the Ferber method work for you? I couldn't find a video update. Absolutly love watching your channel - life saver! Thank you xx

[@JA420love]

Be careful following this advice and method. Dr. Ferber has actually renounced this method and regrets putting this method out there. He is now in support of more gentle ways of getting a little one to sleep. This is the old method which is reserved only as a last resort after all other methods have failed. It can cause psychological and attachment disorders that can be lasting through childhood and even into adulthood.

[@virityrealtual3831]

@@JA420love source?

[@crystaledkins1261]

Hey Kayla, i noticed with my baby if i nurse him too close to bedtime its much harder for him to fall asleep and stay asleep. You could try to nurse him before bath time and it may help! :)

[@sonamlad9152]

After sleep training you haven’t upload any sleep schedule, can you share one ? Is he napping long or just short like 30 min , I am following you and it’s very helpful, my baby also taking 30 min 24 min or sometime 40 min nap

[@charlottegrice]

Just wondering to keep consistency would it be an idea to nurse him at 5am in a chair in his nursery & pop him back in his crib instead of bringing back into your bed until getting up time.. I realise it's harder work for you to do so but I just wonder if hes resisting napping in his crib because sometimes he gets to sleep in mummy's bed & that way your totally consistent every time & theres no confusion.. just an idea. You're a wonderful mummy & I enjoy your videos ♡

[@ashleynicole2546]

Charlotte Wilby I agree! I think this builds a crutch that he knows if he wails enough he will get to come to bed with her and nurse to sleep. Mine always did this too because he knows someone would come hold him. Now we just leave him there or will change him and feed him and put him back in the crib so he knows he can’t win us over 😂

[@charlottegrice]

@@ashleynicole2546 it's so hard navigating through this stuff isn't it! Xx

[@uzmashaheen8118]

I really want to ask you few advice on skin care of baby as my baby suddenly develop dry skin which is bothering him at sleep time which seems like eczema

[@revoltangel]

This is helpful. Thank you for sharing.

[@Adios9421]

Try adjusting his wake times. Try going to 2.5 hours or so. Try 2 naps. I know when my baby dropped the third nap she naps so much longer now. There might be a few early nights. Around that age you can’t go by cues anymore. You need to follow wake times. Also going from crib to your bed might be confusing him

[@APeacefulPursuit]

Just want to say - you're doing awesome, mama 💕

[@mommyjaslynn]

You know I'm watching 😃 love that dresser behind u

[@sarahibrahim2644]

I suggest Camilia by Borijn.. it's completely safe and reliable. Please look into it and give it a try many mom's recommend those teething drops, plus it helps baby relax and fall asleep. Jackson is definitely having a teething issue that is contributing to his irritability and restlessness. Also him transitioning to the crib maybe something he's mentally not prepared for. I know you're doing the Ferber thing. But he seems like he just wants comfort during his sleeps. Maybe put one of your shirts or a sweater that has your scent on it in the crib with him will help him fall asleep and stay asleep. It's an old trick that used to work for my daughter when she was about his age. If you're not too sure about the teething drops atleast try the shirt trick. Place it over him like a blanket and keep an eye on him until he falls asleep then for safety purposes remove it to prevent any fear of sids. Best of luck!!

[@tm1205]

I remember my little one started to fight the nap #3 at about 5 months already-so instead at his naptime i went out with the stroller and for most of the times he did his last nap in a stroller. And he was a good sleeper-but that third nap didn’t work out well anymore

[@JenziGee]

I was so looking forward to this video after the first one with his first 24 hours. I love watching videos on sleeping training to see how it works for others and to get inspiration/motivation from someone who has been through it. Just a note though: It was a little hard to follow which day of sleep training you were on when you started every new clip with “let me catch you up with what happened yesterday/last night” without also mentioning which night of sleep training you were on or even what day of the week it was. For me, that would have been helpful to know.

[@charliecashfrancis]

My 4.5 month old daughter is teething and I give her ashton and parsons teething powders (godsend) but I always put a drop of gripe water in her morning and night bottles, maybe try Jackson with some of that? Teething can unsettle their stomachs and everything but gripe water covers so many different things and they only need 5ml :) xx

[@janineangel6373]

Great job mama! This process is hard, hang in there!

[@ralucab1185]

What app are you using for tracking it and doing the notes?

[@Demon-vj5pj]

Maybe if you just let him nap whenever he’s really tired instead of having timed naps & not letting him sleep after 5 pm My daughter actually started sleeping through the night when she was 1 1/2 months old

[@olaehlert5703]

I think you did amazing! I struggled so much and ended up giving up as he had pre-epileptic stage due to crying.. Even when doctor says its ok, its very important to observe the baby. For us naps were always amazing but he wakes up between 4-18 times at night.. He is bf/food and 9months.

[@olabukowiec4402]

I would definitely increase his awake windows to 3ish hours. Just keep him awake & keep him busy. Go for a walk, sensory play anything to keep him busy. That will definitely help him nap better & also go down to 2 longer naps maybe first one at 9.30 and for next one at 1.30-2 and then go to bed at 6.30\7. It might take a few days to adjust for him but in the long run will be better for you both if he has 2 longer naps than cat napping all day.

[@jilee8998]

See what wake window works for Jackson! My baby only had 30min naps until i changed his wake window!

[@isabelletrillo7620]

Was just thinking too myself as I’m up at 2am rocking my son... can’t wait till Kayla drops that sleep training video ... I’m about too try to start this next week w my almost 8 month old!

[@sarahmustakim3471]

My perfectly sleep trained baby had a terrible sleep regression at around the 7 months mark. She was basically going through the 3-2 nap transition. And so I had to readjust her schedule totally and in maybe 2 weeks she was back on track. Maybe Jackson is also going through it, and you're trying to sleep train him simultaneously. I dunno. Just hearing his screams reminded me.

[@ashleynicole2546]

sarah mustakim What are your wake windows for 2 naps now? Mine has started waking a little more at night and I might need to transition soon. 7.5 months.

[@sarahmustakim3471]

@@ashleynicole2546 mine is now 10 months. At around 7 months I was doing 2 and half, then 3, and 3 and half before bedtime.

[@bethanbrain3005]

Huckleberry have something called sweetspot that tells you when to put baby to sleep according to his previous sleep night sleep and age

[@piggybabytiffany]

My baby is 13 months who can’t sleep by herself. And I do sleep training for her when she was 7 months, I felt , she cried for 11 days . What should I do now 😭😭 sleep training again OR just wait .

[@piggybabytiffany]

And she just has her teeth when she was 12 months ( so late ) now she has a hard time , can’t not sleep by herself , teeth pain.... which is so bad! I pick her up like 10 times a night , other wise she will 😭 CRY ...

[@CWall-tv7gm]

Started sleep training yesterday. So during the naps when she was screaming her head off, I took the baby monitor, my phone and watched the office on my phone while cleaning out the pantry. And it wasn’t so anxiety provoking, it kept my mind busy and I was productive. I could still hear her on the monitor but I was busy! I couldn’t imagine just sitting and watching the baby monitor! That would be rough!

[@MALLEWALLE-0]

This is litterly the sadest thing i ever Heard. Your baby screamed her head off and you ”keept busy”. Wow. Go to google, it is permanent damaging to sleep train babies.

[@CWall-tv7gm]

malvina stavgren nope, I checked on her as recommended. I just can’t look at the baby monitor hoping for her to fall asleep. Now she is falling asleep without crying! The first nap we did this she cried “her head off” but after that she was fine! And right now, I’m looking at a baby that is sound asleep on the baby monitor-yaay!! Before, she would only sleep in a Moby wrap carrier on me, so something had to be done:)

[@CWall-tv7gm]

malvina stavgren oh! Also, my pediatrician recommended extinction sleep training, meaning I just left her alone in her room without ever going in there, but I did the Ferber method, so I checked on her periodically. And yes, I do see what you’re talking about where Leach claimed brain damage from crying it out, but there has been numerous studies that contradict that as well. And in reference to you stating that “the saddest thing” is me letting my child cry is one thing, if I enjoyed my child cry-then that would be the saddest. Don’t judge others for their parenting choices to benefit their baby and family.

[@arpitabarman8230]

Hi Kayla...this is Arpita from india...love watching ur vedios. I see how you are struggling with Jackson's sleep training. I wish he learns to get sleep trained very soon. Wish u all the best. Keep uploading good stuffs coz I and others like me love watching them.

[@ЛенаБу-б9п]

Kayla, you are doing great! My daughter is 2 now and she was exactly like Jackson till like 14-15 months , I couldn’t make her nap longer than 30 min. So after 15 months she just started to nap longer on her own , 60 min at first and than around 2 hrs.

[@chelseaensell6744]

Teething definitely gets in the way sometimes, they just need extra love and distraction on those days! You will get there. I sleep trained my daughter when she was teething and on the tough days I tried to give her and myself a bit of credit and just relax the rules a bit. You’re doing great!

[@jennakrehbiel3562]

You are a super mom! 💛

[@0327Eve]

I also have two kids 2 years apart and their rooms are unfortunately next to each other. How is Riley doing during this journey? I use white noise but still there are times my kids wake up each other

[@ilonamelnyk1983]

I did sleep train my baby and it has been the best decision of my life! Thank you! Your videos has made everything so much easier!!!! Thank you, Kayla

[@katieelkins1748]

Mom of a 7 month old and wondering when did his naps get longer???

[@carrierequejo4357]

Jackson seriously gets cuter and cuter every day 😍

[@austinacmes]

Babies at this age are going through so much physically and mentally. Everyday is different for them in their body. The best thing a caretaker can give is to nurture and respect their needs for comfort at such a young age. Most of them want to sleep yet something physically is preventing them to get there. I’m not sure letting them cry and left alone will have them get the message. All they know is that they are still uncomfortable and no one will come to their aids.

[@virityrealtual3831]

All they know is if they cry they get the comfort they seek but dont need at 18 months in most cases. This keeps them dependant. Whenever they wake up naturally in between sleep cycles, theyre much more likely to stak awake because they want comfort from others and cant comfort themselves into sleep. Crying does not mean baby needs something. Baby also cries when I stop her from doing dangerous things. Likewise keeping her dependant on a parents nursing for simple sleep is also a dangerous thing

[@feliciamiramontes5540]

Hey Kayla, I agree on checking the wake windows. My son is almost 7 months old and his naps are usually not great. We use the huckleberry app and I’ve been stretching the nap time an hour after the app tells me and it has been working so far. 24 min naps still exist but we’re working on it! You’re doing great mama 😊