Sleeper pond part 5 - Installing bottom drain and boxweld liner

[@JamesTHEKOIwhisperer123]

The pond is almost back up and running mate well done Dan that box liner was a bargain mate

[@dannycurrie1]

Proper deal on the liner. Over £100 cheaper than the next quote I had. Fits perfectly. Hopefully have it full of water by the end of next week. Fingers crossed for no leaks 💦🙏🤞

[@JamesTHEKOIwhisperer123]

@@dannycurrie1 brilliant news mate

[@markf5758]

When the end goal is finally in sight it makes all that mess soooo much worth it lol. If your going to liner a pond looking at your box liner it's definitely the best way to go!! Looks so much neater and no doggy corners/folds where bad bacteriaca can build up in . Well Done Dan 👍

[@dannycurrie1]

Really feeling like it's coming together. All the hard works starting to pay off. Boxweld liner is brilliant, so happy I got that. So easy to put in and like you say no corners to trap dirt. Was only about £40 expensive than a flat liner in the end

[@markf5758]

@@dannycurrie1 definitely worth the extra £££ mate, look forward to next installment 😉

[@KoiRun50]

Looking great. First time I've seen a box liner put it. Fantastic idea. Like the new name and log too.

[@dannycurrie1]

Boxweld liner is brilliant, so easy, 100%worth the extra money, get no creases or folds either. Can't wait to get it full now :)

[@progressivepondkeeping]

Well done mucka, big help to me in. all honesty that's the main reason I didn't go with a bottom drain last time Cutting the liner 👌👍

[@dannycurrie1]

Glad it's helpful mate. It's a bit scary cutting a hole in in a £295 liner but its worth doing and not too difficult. I'll have another video when it's full. I don't think it will leak, last one didn't so should be fine

[@progressivepondkeeping]

@@dannycurrie1 yes mate definitely helped me cheers 👌👍

[@KoiChronicles]

Thanks for sharing Dan and well done with all that mother nature has thrown at you. ❄🙏⛩🈂KC

[@dannycurrie1]

Thanks mate. It's not been the most fun in this weather but nearly there now

[@thepeoplespond]

Good Job Danny 👍 Making excellent progress Can’t wait to rebuild my pond Had it less than a year lol 😂

[@dannycurrie1]

Thanks mate. Good luck when you do it. It's never ending with the pond improvements

[@shaunleonard8146]

Well done Danny, Bet you can't wait to get the water in.

[@dannycurrie1]

Can't wait to finally get it full. Hopefully not too long now

[@RamseysDIYKoiPond]

Looking good buddy really taking shape now 👍👌🐟

[@dannycurrie1]

Thanks mate. It's getting there now finally. Alot of hard work to get to where I am that's for sure

[@mountainkoi9673]

What a differs it makes with the liner in,great work Dan

[@dannycurrie1]

Thanks mate. Looks like a proper pond now. Hopefully not too long to go

[@Simon.Bryant]

Wow! Quick work mate. The liner looks great. I will definitely be going for a box weld when my build starts. Not much more to do now 👍

[@dannycurrie1]

Box weld was well worth the money. No regrets there. So much easier to put in aswell. Did it on my own in 5 mins. Not long until the ponds done now. Hopefully end of the month I'll have the fish back in as long as I don't get any unexpected problems 🤞

[@mattsonhobbies6966]

Well done Dan you coming on really well mate 👍 very impressed 👍👍

[@dannycurrie1]

Thanks mate. Nearly there now. Got the skimmer and window sealed today. Big fill on Tuesday. Hopefully no leaks 🤞 How you getting on with yours?

[@mattsonhobbies6966]

@@dannycurrie1 sounds brilliant mate 👍👍 I'm finding it hard to get out with work and the little man but good news I did get out today 🎉🎉🎉🎉 😂😂 Loat all the footage what's a bummer but hopefully get time after work tomorrow to film it 👍👍👍

[@davesaxon7348]

Nice one, must of been hard with the muddy conditions. Looking forward to the next one.👍🏼

[@dannycurrie1]

Certainly not made it easy but nearly there now 🤞

[@IcenI_Koi]

Nice one Danny, getting there Buddy. Stay safe & well.

[@dannycurrie1]

Thanks mate. All coming together now finally

[@IcenI_Koi]

@@dannycurrie1 definitely ☝☝☝

[@user-lh2qs6ft6o]

Well done mate you are doing ok its all a learning curve 👍👍👍

[@dannycurrie1]

Certainly is mate. Getting there now though

[@karlmaund8014]

Great video mate. Very helpful for a newbie fitting a bottom drain.

[@dannycurrie1]

Glad it was helpful. It's well worth doing. Wouldn't have a pond without one now

[@LauMagroTheFrenchKOInection]

Fantastic Dan. You ve been working so so hard. You are almost there. Very interesting content. Keep it up, can't wait to see the next one.

[@dannycurrie1]

Thanks. It's been constant hard work but feels like I'm nearly there now. Hopefully have the next video out end of next week. Should be filling it up this weekend hopefully 🤞

[@LauMagroTheFrenchKOInection]

@@dannycurrie1 when you think how you were working, under the snow, muddy, etc... you have achieved so much, it's incredible really. I am about to start mine, everything has arrived, just waiting on the rebar today. Will start next week. I went for the 12mm rebar in the end like you.

[@dannycurrie1]

@@LauMagroTheFrenchKOInection good luck with your build. Hope it all go's well. Hopefully have mine full next week so I'll let you know if the 12m rebar holds it fine. I'm sure it will

[@LauMagroTheFrenchKOInection]

@@dannycurrie1 they'd better hold as I ordered mine after your last video. So if pond doesn't hold, it will be your fault! Haha joke.. honestly, 12 mm is absolutely perfect. Did you re-enforced the corners? I am so confused about your window though, so looking forward to seeing your video.

[@dannycurrie1]

@@LauMagroTheFrenchKOInection haha I take no responsibility. I used sleeper screws through the corners and also some through the sleepers into the ones below between the rebar. I'm not 100% on how the windows going to work either. But will let you know how it go's

[@StiggysGuitarLoft]

Nice, just what I needed as I'm about to build mine tomorrow

[@dannycurrie1]

Thanks for watching 👍 good luck 🤞

[@StiggysGuitarLoft]

@@dannycurrie1 im gonna need it as I'm going for above ground with a bog filter

[@matthewnicholls2658]

Looking good Dan, all coming together now bud, the light is at the end of that muddy tunnel for sure, bet that sealant took some scrubbing to get off your hands 😂 all the best Matt

[@dannycurrie1]

Still not got it all off 😂 it's been bloody hard work but nearly there now. Can't wait to get it filled up finally

[@alexkoi4life914]

Well done. Doing a great job. Looking mint mate 😃👍🏻

[@dannycurrie1]

Thanks mate. Nearly there now finally

[@countrykoipond]

Nice new logo Dan. Keep up the good work

[@dannycurrie1]

Thanks mate. Nearly done now. Been hard work so far but hopefully on the home stretch now

[@gwatsongw]

Looking good Danny

[@dannycurrie1]

Thanks mate. Nearly there now. Can't wait to get the fish out of the swimming pool

[@greenmachinesweden]

Well done. Keep us updated.

[@dannycurrie1]

Will do. Hopefully not long to go now

[@w.k.pitsallaboutthefish6460]

Hi mate your making some good progress there... I put a bottom drain in for the first time on my current pond and having to cut a hole in a perfectly good liner is very daunting lol. 👍 Wayne

[@dannycurrie1]

It's definitely a bit of a worry. I was less nervous this time than the first time. But cutting a hole in something so expensive feels wrong

[@dannycurrie1]

I'll give you channel a sub 👍

[@w.k.pitsallaboutthefish6460]

@@dannycurrie1 cheers mate much appreciated 👍

[@richd-koi]

Nice update yeah as long as its water tight n not visible once the cap is on thats all that matters mate. Im solvent welding soon for the first time when my k1 bead filter arrives so reassuring to see how easy it is cheers 👍

[@dannycurrie1]

I'll find out when I get it filled up. Hopefully won't be too long now. When you getting your bead? Solvent weld is super easy, so don't worry about that. I've never had a fitting leak before. Buy a decent pipe glue though not the cheap stuff from screwfix

[@richd-koi]

@@dannycurrie1 yeah iv bought the pond n swimming pool wf 05 stuff. The beads coming anyday now for my second line. I took my pressure filter off as i blame it for the death of my goshiki. Bacterial issue so my ashps off too as advised 13 is a bad temp to keep them at. Nearly sold it but decided to keep it now. Yeah will be good to see the water in yours nearly done 👍🐟

[@dannycurrie1]

@@richd-koi make sure you do some videos putting it in. Be interesting to see. Can't wait to get it full up. Hopefully not too long now

[@stubbsaquatics6080]

Wow.. So much done.. Almost there.. 👍

[@dannycurrie1]

Thanks mate. I've been cracking on with it. Filling it up tomorrow. I'll have another new video up soon

[@colrobbo2821]

Well done mate! 👍

[@dannycurrie1]

Thanks. Getting there now

[@JoshuaBurch]

Great to see it all coming along, really would love to hear more on how you fitted the window and some expenses. Just a quick one, usually I see windows installed after the liner has gone in on a liner pond, how will you fix the liner to the window frame to get the seal. Is it an overlapping frame like how you might fit a skimmer ? A lot more content than my old waffle :D keep it up and good to see another fellow young koi keeper on here !

[@dannycurrie1]

I'll do a whole video on the window once I've got it in. I'm just sealing the liner to the back of the glass with silicone. It should be fine. The glass manufacture recommend it that way, said you don't get creases in the liner wich is mostly what causes leaks. That's the plan anyway, never done it before so we will see what happens 🤞

[@Simonsimps]

@@dannycurrie1 It will be fine. Just try not to put a massive thick bead of silicone, try to get the bead about 10mm thick and squash it to 5mm. I used a plastic scraper to rub along the liner to squash the silicone flat. If you want it neat do it in 2 goes and let the first bit go off first then you can trim the bit to the reveal better because the gone off silicone will be holding the liner still. Don't be tempted to squash the liner flat to the glass on the very edge, keep that 5mm of silicone behind it otherwise it will peel away over time. Good luck, I'm sure it will be fine. Cheers.

[@dannycurrie1]

@@Simonsimps thanks for the tips. Sounds like a good idea. I'll certainly give that a go 👍

[@robprice4095]

Looking good matey 👍

[@dannycurrie1]

Thanks. Hopefully not long now

[@johnclipperton3774]

Nice one... approaching this stage myself but wanted to let mine dry out a bit first. I'm sure I got told to drill through to make holes in the bottom gasket, but may well do what you've done. I always thought the silicone went underneath the liner... seems to be how pond digger does it? but I can see this way working also. Very interested to see how window method works out too. I started out thinking of doing liner attached to rear of window but the changed my mind... still worried about those corner creases when doing it the other way.

[@dannycurrie1]

Might be a good idea to pre drill the holes. I did think about it but decided not too. It didn't crack or anything so think it's fine. Saved having to line them up. I put the silicone above and below the liner to be on the safe side. In all honesty it would probably seal without any sealant. The liner acts as a gasket and should be watertight on its own (not that I would risk it)

[@dannycurrie1]

I was worried about creases in the corner of the window too that's why I'm doing it this way. I'll let you know how I get on. Time will tell if it was a mistake or not 🤞

great job mate , well explained .

[@dannycurrie1]

Glad you found it helpful 😊

[@yakyak6218]

Fantastic job! I can see you have grafted like us... :D I have been getting ideas off your recent videos and have just completed the digging on our koi pond. How many litres will your pond hold? Great videos, keep them coming.

[@dannycurrie1]

Thanks. Glad the videos have been helpful. The pond is around 10000 litres. I need to take some extra measurements now it's full.

[@terencespeers5276]

Excellent job Danny well done What are your pond dimensions?

[@dannycurrie1]

Thanks mate it's 3.4mx2.2x1.2m

[@LambentPanacake]

Did you angle the floor towards the bottom drain? Trying to figure this out for myself atm. If I bought a box liner would I have to add a bit extra material on the floor dimensions to compensate for this? Hope this makes sense. All the best 👍

[@dannycurrie1]

I did angle it slightly. Although It got very muddy underneath when it rained before I got the liner in and to be honest it's not really angled towards the drain anymore. I did order the liner a couple of cm winder on the sides to allow for it. Ordered mine from kirkys koi, give them a ring and he will talk you through exactly what you nees

[@LambentPanacake]

@@dannycurrie1 Thanks for your help pal. I have sent them an email.

[@samchanning22]

Hi loving the updates and really helpful as I’m planning my own pond build. Where did you get your bottom drain from and how much was it if you don’t mind me asking?

[@dannycurrie1]

Glad it's helpful mate. It's not a cheap hobby koi keeping so be prepared. That bottom drain is an airated one from jbr plastics. Can't remember the price off the top of my head but it was over £100

[@CBersPond]

Nice work Danny. Looking forward to the full Window Installation video. Where did you get your skimmer and window from ?

[@dannycurrie1]

I'll get the video up as soon as I've got it done. Bit nervous about the window, never done it before. Glass was from tuffx cost £180 delivered. The skimmer was from absolute koi

[@barryboxall6859]

Loving the videos 👍🏻. Would just like to ask, I’m about to build a similar pond to yours, some you tube videos put a concrete base in, I see that you didn’t , is it necessary ?

[@dannycurrie1]

A base at the bottom isn't nessaary unless your going to fiberglass. A concrete collar is probably a good idea and would extend the life of the sleepers. That said I haven't done that either. Sleepers should still last longer than I'll be in this house

[@boxtriker]

Good to see that liner in happy days as to pretty as long as its water tight no one will see

[@dannycurrie1]

Thanks mate. It's looking like a pond atleast now. Fingers crossed no leaks. Can't wait to get it done

[@Mikemkp]

Did you have to pre drill into bottom bucket or did you just screw straight into mate 👍🏻

[@dannycurrie1]

Just screwed it straight in mate. Self tapping screws so they just went in no problem, saves having to line all the holes up

[@Mikemkp]

@@dannycurrie1 cheers buddy now I have watched you doing it I can do mine 🥶

[@dannycurrie1]

@@Mikemkp good luck mate. It's not as bad as you think. Sure it will be fine. Don't think mine will leak. Will find out when I fill it up though

[@Mikemkp]

@@dannycurrie1 cheers buddy

[@stevensykes924]

Great work. I have an EPDM liner to install right now on my pond. They are really heavy? Did you install the liner by yourself, if so mind if I ask how you managed it?

[@dannycurrie1]

I did do it all on my own. Been down the gym alot 💪💪 They are heavy though, I'd definitely say get some help if you can. I did mine on my own, just took my time. As it was a boxweld it was relatively straightforward, no folds to do. I did my old pond on my own with a flat liner and that was a right pain. Took ages

[@dannycurrie1]

Good luck 👍

[@stevensykes924]

@@dannycurrie1 Thanks for the advice, your pond looks brilliant and I’ve enjoyed watching your updates. All the best mate

[@TarkovFLIR]

is it really worth saving a couple of hundred quid for the chance of a split or tear when using a liner rather than having it fibreglassed?

[@malcolmpawson6419]

Brill mate need to see the window fitting as I already have a sleeper pond but going up 2 more sleepers and a window this year

[@dannycurrie1]

Will be coming some time next week hopefully once I get it done. Just waiting for a dry day to do it at the moment

[@lilacmoo2499]

Really helpful after watching i would confidently have a go you make it look simple cheers

[@mark5tytshort770]

Are you doing video on fitting glass

[@dannycurrie1]

I will do mate once I've got it sealed to the liner. Hopefully end of next week video will be up if it all go's well and dosnt leak

[@RS20O0]

Looking really good, well done. Think about it, you don't need any sealant under the top sealing ring as there's nowhere for water to escape, you only need it between underside of liner and the bottom drain.

[@dannycurrie1]

Yeah that's true actually. Bit late now. Won't hurt though. I Put plenty under aswell. In theory it would seal with no sealant as the liner forms a gasket. Not that I would risk it

[@RS20O0]

@@dannycurrie1 I have known someone who didn't realise you were supposed to use sealant.... And their bottom drain never leaked!

[@dannycurrie1]

@@RS20O0 doesn't surprise me. Wouldn't want to try it though. Hope you understood that message before. Just realised how many spelling mistakes were in it 🤣🤣

[@RS20O0]

@@dannycurrie1 yeah I worked it out. Btw, brilliant price on the liner. Cheapest I found was £400 (12k litres) and I thought that was a really good deal!

[@dannycurrie1]

@@RS20O0 I was surprised on the price too. About £100 cheaper than anywhere else I tried. Just shows its worth getting a good few quotes.

[@raymondcousins8894]

How have you fixed your Kingspan to your sleepers

[@dannycurrie1]

I haven't. The Kingspan is just pushed in places. The weight of the water stops it from moving. The sheets of Kingspan are taped together with foil tape

[@mikefogo9912]

Just got same bottom drain as you,but my flange only as a 1 inch hole in it,that not right is it,what screws did you use?

[@24bellers20]

Looks like u made the same mistake as me. Measured for the liner and then added an in or 2. My second one I measured 5mm too small. Not a crease to be seen.

[@andrewstandley3964]

Hi Danny I have only just found your channel what are your pond dimensions thanks andy

[@dannycurrie1]

Glad you've found it. Thanks for the support. Pond is 3.4mx2.2x1.2 deep. Wanted to go deeper but the ground is just too solid, was such a slog to get to that depth

[@Tom_Prendiville]

Haha when i saw the notification i thought 🤔 who the bloody hell is that 🤣 Great channel name and awesome progress buddy 👏

[@dannycurrie1]

Haha cheers mate. Felt it needed changing. I'm not very imaginative though. Quite pleased with the logo though, mate from work helped me with it

[@Tom_Prendiville]

@@dannycurrie1 it really won't be long before you are seeing the benefits of that drum 😉

[@dannycurrie1]

@@Tom_Prendiville yeah no long now. Feels like it's all finally coming together. Got alot of pipework to do still but I feel like the hard bits done now (apart from the window)

[@jameswithers3066]

Hi dan, can I ask where you got your sleepers from?

[@dannycurrie1]

Gardoo.co.uk

[@dannycurrie1]

There 2400x240x120mm

[@andybird7663]

Cheers dude

[@marcellinemcnally3768]

Soon have them fish in Dan ,👍😷👍

[@dannycurrie1]

Hope so 🤞feel bad for them in the pool. It's been a hard winter

[@chillout7862]

Where did you buy the liner from

[@dannycurrie1]

Kirky's koi

[@chillout7862]

@@dannycurrie1 thanks looking to get a pond in my garden also had quotes but might try do it myself

[@chillout7862]

@@dannycurrie1 just looked not seeing any in their shop

[@dannycurrie1]

@@chillout7862 give them a ring. Box weld liners are custom made to size, you will need to let them know the exact dimensions you want so they can quote you

[@asterixborden-koi6881]

Hi m8 new subscriber thanks for putting this video out on the bottom drain this is something I will be doing in the summer due to my pond liner has a split in it somewhere and I’m also re designing my pond If you get chance check me out on Borden-Koi Good work keep us posted 👍

[@dannycurrie1]

Glad it's was helpful mate. It's well worth putting a bottom drain in you won't regret it 👍

[@CarlosAlberto-ii1li]

If you read the subtitles as some need to you will see how badly you talk in english.

[@danielstephens840]

bloody hell danny that is possibly the worst silicone job ive ever seen lol use some soapy water or your spit on your finger next time to smooth it out a bit

[@dannycurrie1]

😂😂😂 Didn't leak though... All hidden under the lid of the drain so not really an issue. I'll bear that in mind for next time 👍