The Dagger Of The Pure Evil, Tested!

[@opesam]

"That which is forgotten is doomed to be repeated". Openly and honestly discussing historical events should always be encouraged. 👍

[@squidman390]

There's also "those who don't remember the past are condemned to repeat it"

[@TheBelrick]

To the victors goes the task of writing history. Don't worry, ignore that fact that it is illegal to question Pravda.

[@paintballthieupwns]

@@TheBelrick - Of course history is never correct AND that does not mean it is all lies. Hence why open discussion and debate is good. But your inference that the broad narrative is a lie is incorrect.

[@TheBelrick]

@@paintballthieupwns Not that you could prove your claim. Clear headed retrospection of the official history of WW2 uncovers many things that don't add up and are clues to historic revisionism Example A: Two nations invaded Poland, one was declared the enemy and wared upon as the great evil. The other was allied to. And it was the later that kept conquered Poland post war. Ergo the official reason and cause for WW2 in Europe is a fabrication.

[@TheBelrick]

@@tdoyr Are you saying that Holodomor is a good thing?

[@HamRadioCrashCourse]

I think the brutal openness of this video is something that should be appreciated. The knowledge here is why KZbin exists and is something we should all support.

[@caiusmadison2996]

Exactly, I miss wave one KZbin, where it was a nomad experience, flipping from new video to new video.... filling the brain pan with useful nips of info.

[@sc-no9uk]

This is why the video is demonetised 😭

[@WhatWhy42]

One vid that youtube should pay for! This is also a warning of power yet to come... GL future ppl

[@berkantuenger3113]

@@sneedemfeedem3792 bruh

[@AkuraTheAwesome]

This brutal openness is one of the most amazing aspects of the German culture, but also one of the biggest shocks for foreigners. I love it.

[@fuzzythoughts8020]

"Maybe I should make the Slingshot Channel Party, would you join?" Me: *"Show me it's features!"*

[@dopesounddjs]

HAHAHAHAHAHA 😂😂

[@complimented_A_input]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@nathanlittle9048]

Damn! This better get highlighted lmao

[@paulwhitehead3002]

Is it going to be one that places the truth above current political parties self promoting lies

[@lexvrienten7775]

I approve this message👍🏻🤣

[@Mongaloose]

My grandfather was US Marine, and worked as a guard for a POW camp in WWII. He would talk about a German soldier there who was an artist before he was drafted. The artist would draw portraits of my grandfather and his comrades, and they exchanged gifts when the war ended. I think my family still has a pocket watch that was a gift from that German artist. My grandfather made sure to teach us that the soldiers on the field are people too, and are not always there by choice. Thank you for being open and honest about you family history. To build a better tomorrow, we cannot tear each other down over the past. Your channel brings joy to many through engineering.

[@DaN-ri7eh]

Amen.

[@sven471111]

@Mongaloose There is always 2 kinds of people.the ones who were forced to army as normal citizens who lived a normal life and on the other hand the fanatics what fight for any leader on any costs.even today there are many people fighting for "the agenda",though there isn't a big war with arms.these people are the most dangerous.

[@HoseTheBeast]

Really a marine kn the european theater? Thats quite rare. Or atleast relatively rare.

[@johngalt969]

My uncle from Argentina was an artist before the war in Germany. He entered into politics though, he already served in WW1 as a trench runner.

[@morgenstern4.669]

@@johngalt969 💀💀💀

[@courier11sec]

"I'm not a huge guy." -huge guy, Joerg Sprave. 😁 Thank you for your frank and honest presentation of a very difficult subject. We can never forget the atrocities of our past so we can recognize those trying to repeat them.

[@ommsterlitz1805]

You can be 2m10 and have small hands, the hands Joerg have are working man or farmer hands not people who use a keyboard all day.

[@jamieawatt8037]

"the more you know about the past, the better prepared you are for the future" Teddy Roosevelt

[@Reth_Hard]

He's not huge, he's big boned...

[@michaelmay5453]

I'd like to take a picture with him one day to prove him right. I'm a 7'1 powerbuilder (think bodybuilder that still have abs but never competes so no definition training and keeping it at around 12-15% bodyfat all year round). I probably weigh as much as one and a half Jörg. :D

[@michaelmay5453]

@@ommsterlitz1805 No, no you can't. HGH grows everything, if you're 210cm (a bit shorter than I am) you have big hands.

[@kazater]

"i am not a huge guy" Joerg the bouldertroll said, as the skulls of the villagers crubled under his thumb.

[@abuzamrud]

Same energy as "Dumbledore said calmly"

[@forlife-sv8hr]

@Potato King no his ancestors are more of skytitan descent

[@CAP198462]

I will just reiterate that that phrase could mean other things…. croissants and baguettes you know.

[@seaghan6412]

He is a big boy for normal people, he himself says he goes to the gym 3 times a week so the sort of people he will often be around, he is a small guy.

[@theapexsurvivor9538]

I mean, when you have giants and gods in your ancestry, anything short of 10" is kinda small.

[@generaljackripper666]

*_"none of the political parties represent my opinion"_* That is a universal truth these days.

[@4philipp]

You will never have a party check all your boxes. And even if one does, governments usually need to compromise. Nothing is perfect

[@scutumfidelis1436]

@@4philipp Political parties these days are liberalism or liberalism 10 years ago, you are free or so they say.

[@MalachiHealey]

@@4philipp Democracy is cringe. Read some Aristotle.

[@benjaminhenderson7059]

@@MalachiHealey republics are cringe, democracy has never been tried.

[@God-mb8wi]

@@scutumfidelis1436 And what's liberalism, exactly? Leftism? Or do you *truly* mean liberalism. Most conservatives are essentially liberal in their thinking. Every moderate is, anyway. The GOP is, at the moment, spiraling further right but it's still essentially liberal. The Democratic party is doing nothing for its constituents, but it's still liberal. Both parties represent the interests of ultracapitalists and corporations, and nothing more.

[@ins344]

Dear Joerg, thank you for tackling this subject with sensitivity. I love your engineering skills and your infectious laughter when you explain them on this channel - this is quite a departure. What matters most is the man you are today and who you desire to be in the future.

[@theycallmeJacko]

Even if they were, your past doesn't define you Joerg. This whole community knows how good of a person you are and you should know too. Stay strong mein freund.

[@MiguelDiaz4469]

Same here! He is a good person and this video alone will attest to that. Good move Joerg and know that we appreciate you for sharing this. God bless and stay safe.

[@QarthCEO]

Must be nice... In the USA, the past sins of your race defines everything you are today.

[@Seelenschmiede]

@@QarthCEO we germans accept what we did wrong and strife for not repeating this shit. It is the official line of the government / nation. What can't be said about the USA sadly.

[@QarthCEO]

@@Seelenschmiede Uhm, are you saying the USA is trying to bring back slavery or is not committed to never repeating slavery? Seriously? Germany is FAR more likely to fall to fascism again than the USA will ever legalize chattel slavery, my dude.

[@Seelenschmiede]

@@QarthCEO I never said anything like that in any way or form. Read again... Oh btw.: privat owned prisons are considered slavery...

[@shyloq]

A man cannot be held responsible for his parents actions of politics. As an English man I enjoy your channel . Keep it up entertaining and informative.

[@Duskconqueror]

Damn right

[@mikewizz1895]

Me too

[@user-ko3tv7jl2r]

Indeed, the video clearly distinguishes reich from wrong.

[@d029319m]

What about all the people who bought all the replica daggers as soon as they were available?

[@Robocline]

If only that were true. Look what is happening around the world with the demonizing of whites because of slavery and things like Jim Crow etc. Nobody alive was responsible for that but we're getting painted with that brush today.

[@zlosov5817]

Joerg: "I'm not a huge guy" Also Joerg: Casually reloads a crossbow pistol with a flick of his wrist.

[@chrisdimmitt7012]

I thought the same this when Joerg considered himself not a huge guy. Makes me wonder how big his family and friends are. Maybe the camera just makes Joerg look bigger than life

[@zlosov5817]

@@chrisdimmitt7012 Maybe he's secretly a huge slinghsot in the guise of a human

[@honooryu5374]

@@zlosov5817 Then he would be correct since he is not a huge "man" but a slingshot. I see it all clear infront of me now.

[@Takkiebos]

@@chrisdimmitt7012 Don't you know? Germany is home to the last giants!

[@granudisimo]

I'm 1.80 m tall too and I'm not a huge guy either, I'm just 3 cm above my national average while Joerg is just 2 cm bellow his. I was gonna say that you might be confusing size with strength but then again, you're probably just being hyperbolic on purpose to be facetious and I'm ruining the joke XD

[@Sabamonster]

Despite the fact that I am *always* all for talking about our collective history; this took a lot of guts to do Joerg. You're a great guy, with strong character and the more I watch/get to know more about you the more I learn to appreciate. Thanks for sharing your story.

[@pad92011]

wow, this video actually moved me. I have never heard a German speaking about the past as straight forward as Joerg here. I really appreciated the video, thank you.

[@wiggly_xd]

Not a German myself, but I've heard that the reason why they don't talk about it often is that everyone in Germany has had that information beaten into them through school and such, to the point that no one wants to hear about it. However, I could be wrong

[@Godsfollower57]

@@wiggly_xd huh, I thought that they didn't teach that information since most people or organizations like to bury history that they aren't proud of. Good on them to be better than the US in that regard.

[@GraysonMckernan]

@@Godsfollower57 Well I definitely went to a different school or went during a different time because I had plenty of U.S. atrocities crammed down my throat throughout my schooling.

[@sticksnstonespatriot1728]

He was tucking his tail between his legs for his own family and culture.... That is what cowards do. I actually lost respect for him kneeling to the cancel mob.

[@showoofity50]

@@sticksnstonespatriot1728 what? Oh my my family did it I must also follow their culture. Sounds pretty dumb to me.

[@whippet_boy8594]

Being drafted right at the end of the war, when everyone knew the direction the war was going, must have felt like hell.

[@TruthIsTheNewHate84]

I can't even imagine. It was mostly very young boys and old men being drafted at the end.

[@chrisazure1624]

It is amazing they even took the time to try to train. I suspect it was the trainers who wanted to do that more than to prepare men. It kept them busy and out of direct action.

[@fish3977]

not as much of a hell as it were for those these drafted turned their backs on.

[@jason200912]

beats getting drafted at the start i guess

[@chrisazure1624]

@@jason200912 True. Many did not survive the war.

[@Matt_10203]

Even if the dagger belonged to a horrible part of history, its an important relic from that time period and an interesting piece.

[@FrenchLightningJohn]

history however evil it was, must be preserve or we are doomed to repeat the error of the past

[@tacomeme429]

@@FrenchLightningJohn ALSO, very importantly, and especially for the bad parts, preserved and NOT glorified or sugarcoated

[@FrenchLightningJohn]

@@tacomeme429 yes the bad part are of the utmost importance to protect as a way to teach future generation of what not to do, so far only those who are evil want the evil part removed so they can have the excuse for later that we don't ''know'' it will lead to that path

[@jeremymain7303]

I don't know. It seems like a bunch of people were trying to prevent CRT, drag queen story hour, and HRT. Can't say I blame them. It's all crashing and burning right now.

[@FrenchLightningJohn]

@@jeremymain7303 CRT has nothing to do with history, CRT is just propaganda trying to disguise itself as a scientific theory, and it try to say that all problem in this world is because of normal white man, so yes it is our duty to stop it as it is a divising propaganda that is just distabilizing western society

[@Ninjump]

Joerg, I cannot tell you how much this video has earned my respect. Your clear eyed explanation of the facts is so refreshing. As an American it feels like we are completely paralyzed when it comes to our own history. One side is hell bent on sweeping our history under the rug or creating an alternate version, and the other side completely defines themselves by the amount of resistance/ virtue they can generate by being "not' the others. It is insane and tearing us apart. I wish we could have more presentations like yours and remember how to discuss fact instead of making it into a game like we do with the rest of our culture. Be well and thanks again.

[@zombotrombo7029]

Hell yeah brother

[@maxmad7641]

For the record, i would absolutely join the “Slingshot Channel Party”. Lots of love Joerg, incredibly brave of you to talk about these extremely important subjects when some would rather leave them forgotten. “Doomed to repeat” and so on. Very respectful and caring to those who were effected. ❤️

[@cmelton6796]

There's nothing evil about the daggers, just the men who used them.

[@vittocrazi]

@@cmelton6796 they can become a symbol, though. and carry on a statement from the evil people who used them. Kind of like the N(R) word

[@Porksword65]

Joerg, you are a legendary human being, and deserve nothing but respect for opening up so candidly. Well done sir, on an emotive and informative video.

[@TheBelrick]

Isn't he childless and doomed to extinction? Legendary? I don't think that you grasp what life is.

[@Slingshotchannel]

I am childless, true, and that won't likely change any time soon. But what does this have to do with my life? Even if I would have children, I would seize to exist the moment I die. This "you live on through your children" is pure nonsense. I am just an individual, and children are individuals, too.

[@kaelantheteen5403]

@@TheBelrick bro i you completely missed the point of the comment💀

[@Slingshotchannel]

@man of cave I share 99.99 % of my genes with any other human being on the planet and even great apes are almost identical, genetically. My genes would indeed be passed on to my children, but that would by no means make them identical to me. The genes would be totally recombined. I am very different from my brothers and my sister, even though we share the same genetics. I never decided not to have children. It just never happened. Since I never felt a great urge to be a father, I did not even try to find out why not. Things are the way they are and I try to make the best out of my life.

[@lt.danslegs9737]

@@Slingshotchannel Well said sir.

[@veleriphon]

Being honest and open about history is the only way to teach it. Thanks, Jeorge.

[@edi9892]

I agree. Also, you should never declare one side as evil and the other as good. That prevents you from learning anything. It's not like anyone woke up one day and said: _Let's join the bad guys! Hell yeah!_

[@johnnyshanksalot8358]

@@edi9892 I'd agree and disagree at the same time. No one thinks they're the villain but if you hurt innocent people I'd say you are the villain. Obviously all sides in a military conflict do that but if one's doing it far more I think it's fair to say they're 'the bad guys'. That said, we should be more open about the sins of the victors too, we were not angels, it was war.

[@edi9892]

@@johnnyshanksalot8358 the problem was that people tried to find the lesser evil, but chose a path deeper and deeper into darkness and when they realized it there was no turning back... Of course, there were also opportunists who volunteered for a safe job far from the frontline in a cosy place (for them not the prisoners)... However, the majority was not like this. Even some high ranking soldiers and party members were not amused when they found out what happened in the camps, but few dared to stand up...

[@staceygram5555]

@@johnnyshanksalot8358 I think his point was about the general population, not the people in charge. People did terrible things because they had been brainwashed, not because they were evil. Just like we're seeing with the modern left.

[@c64116]

i have screenshots of this guy talking in a forum 12 years ago about some crazy person stuff.....

[@LDSG_A_Team]

Jeorg, you already had my respect for you being an engineer and a fellow craftsman. You had my respect and my subscription for your delightfully entertaining KZbin channel and how it inspires me to create as well. You now also have my respect for being a man of integrity. Your courage, dignity, and integrity are clear for all to see, just as easily as is your passion and enthusiasm. Thank you.

[@errorsnide]

You've taken a dark and delicate topic, and spoke about it sincerely, in a way that shows your feelings honestly. I hope the video can stay up as is, it's good.

[@Ferrari255GTO]

Yeah, the hypersensibility of the system makes many harmless or intended for good things to be hidden away. That's why the community should share theese things and protest against it. Yet again, i can't fully blame them for it since there are many people who complain about everything wich got us to where we are. We cant change the past and most of us didnt participate on it, so there is no shame in living in a country that F*ckd up, in fact people from america are quite proud about it. Neither your blood, nor your country should represent you directly.

[@patrickmcelrath4962]

Not even ads on this

[@errorsnide]

@@patrickmcelrath4962 I didn't even think about that, he seriously gave this video the near solemnity it needed.

[@errorsnide]

@@Ferrari255GTO I agree, the YT system can be blind to context and intent, which helps some and hurts others. There's a growing number of Americans that understand we fucked up, growing up I thought the bombs we dropped in Nagasaki and Hiroshima were a normal part of war. As I get older, and learn more about the actual impact it made, and how ridiculous the idea that we/they leveled two cities civilians and all in the blink of an eye. That's just one thing, and not even the worst. But yeah, the YT system could totally use more tweaking to protect videos like this that come from sincere and respectful mindsets and presentations.

[@rickym.6409]

Couldn't have said it any better.

[@styxdragoncharon4003]

You show a wealth of humility sharing this with us. History needs to be confronted for us to learn and grow. Thank you.

[@ravoniesravenshir3926]

Confronted, you mean learned from, if we do not learn from our past, we will repeat it. I am adamantly against the idea of "A Thieves grandson, is also a thief," guilt by association is horrible. Just because a item is from a era doesn't make it guilty.

[@styxdragoncharon4003]

​@@ravoniesravenshir3926 Well that depends... I am a liar's son... the progeny of a man that lied to two families and a judge just to hide his crimes. I have learned from his failures. I do mean that we should *confront* history... Face it with all our truths... how else can we escape our pasts? A lie is fragile, truth is inescapable.

[@AcornFox]

"The small handle emphasizes the length of the blade" Short guys, take note!

[@craftpaint1644]

Guys without hair are like Lions without manes 👩‍🔧🇺🇲🛠️🇷🇺

[@LizardKingTF2Halo174]

About time I see someone give the lake troll some love. Nice pfp

[@JustAnotherJarhead]

keep the bushes short, the tree looks taller.

[@kjohnson1782]

@@craftpaint1644 Lions without manes are still lions

[@timb37]

I'm 6' 4" and let me tell you my blade looks rather average despite its measurements :( Short guys rejoice indeed

[@AngelFall9]

From an American, thank you for sharing. History, even though often dark, teaches us lessons to make a brighter future. No man should be burdened by their families history, and I don't believe anyone here views you in any sort of bad light. Those daggers however I find somewhat beautiful. I like the reverse wing design on the guard and pommel. Definitely display pieces both, and reminders of what we strive against. It's a shame a design like that is marred by past atrocities.

[@Iheartmyson]

I found a ss dagger while clearing out a house once. At the end of the day,I walked back from our fully loaded truck to check one last time. Openend the closet door wherein the electricity and gas meters are,I saw a cartboard cilinder...in it was this fascinating knife. With ss in it with text. Sadly my then girlfriend hated knifes,and guns etc. So i gave it to a coworker,Who collected knifes. Like I USED TO DO. Lesson:. Dont leave your hobbies for a woman🙄. D@mnit. I now have many knifes again. PcP airguns etcetc. Btw i ofcourse like Böker knifes as well. ( I am dutch btw)

[@vicnighthorse]

Sadly, history only teaches a wise few about a scant few things. I posit that Jordan Peterson was dead on when he said most of us, put in the same circumstances and steeped in a similar recent past as those who were adults in '30s and '40s Germany, would do the same as they did. That probably means you and I. Almost nobody is special.

[@Mikey-ym6ok]

@@Iheartmyson it’s good you learned not to surrender your interests to any woman. You like guns, knives that’s a part of you. She wanted to change you and she had no right to. She has to accept you or adios.

[@my9thaccount140]

@@vicnighthorse That’s all due to one simple thing. What can you even do in the first place? Assuming you’re just some random joe or enlisted man, you don’t have anywhere near the resources to actually put up any kind of resistance and the only option you would have if you didn’t want to be involved is to run. Another resource intensive choice that involves leaving everything you’ve ever known to escape the potential judgment of others. High Ranking military officials couldn’t pull off a regime change and they had the resources to do it, how’s Franz the Baker and his neighbors going to do attempt it? It’s only made worse by the fact that as far as I’m aware they didn’t even have civilian gun ownership so even militias were out of the question.

[@alexanderwoods2204]

American history is much darker than Germany We built this country on stolen land while murdering 12 million native Americans so we are clearly worse

[@Vacharidis]

You dont have to apologise for other people's actions. Your actions reflect your character. You are an amazing man and inspiration for most of us.

[@Jimbobalina1]

absolutely this

[@ivanchavez7862]

ABSOLUTELY!

[@christianhviid2167]

Its not just that. We as germans must and most of us do take responsibility for actions taken in the past, so that they never repeat themselves. Personal responsibility is important, and it is not only words. We try to practice this as well as we can, as should everyone else.

[@boomerisadog3899]

@@christianhviid2167 You take responsibility that isn't yours.

[@ivanchavez7862]

@@boomerisadog3899 wow! my brain hurts! 😂👍

[@jeslinmx22]

"Never forget these days that shall never come back" is such a strong line. Well said, and thank you for sharing on such a difficult topic in such a clear and sensible way.

[@kodon48]

Nah its already the same its already happend again

[@kodon48]

@Saint umu everyone is so sick and insane its unbelievable. Braindamage everywhere.

[@toaster_gmbh]

@Saint umu no! As a German your comment ashanes me. It is like you laughed at what actually happened back then. This is nothing like that. There are other signs it's coming back slowly. Right wing parties clearly using other ethnicitys as scape goats. Trying to seize the power etc. What happened in America with the last president can be considered as there are signs that this stuff is coming back. But covid pass? No. There is a pandemic, and you need to take action. Otherwise there are enough stupid people who actively work against suggestions to keep people save. Just look how many people actively caught in peoples face, made scenery just because. They are endangering other people. If their wouldn't be the necessity and people would act smart on their own their wouldn't be the need. It's the same with street rules. You need to have rules otherwise stupid stuff is going to happen. You should really think about what you said and hoe you said it as it is super wrong. And no one who actively informed himself on the topic of what happend back then and how this has effects to today would in any way say something that stupid like you did. You used on of the biggest tragedies in human history to blame covid measures that are in any way constitutional and necessary. If you'd actually thought about and know ehat you are talking about you should be deeply ashamed on so many levels.

[@kodon48]

@Saint umu unfortunately in Article 20 (4) of the constitution, the stupidity of mankind has been forgotten.

[@toaster_gmbh]

@@kodon48 oh shit. There is a lot wrong in people these days. Common sense and all that is a thing to you? Covid measures? Was that such a big deal to you? And remember if people actually would have followed them and kept everyone a bit safer that thing would have gone a lot nicer. But in no way is this a problem of democracy.

[@oneparticularlysmartape]

Mad respect, my brother. Also, I would definitely vote for the Slingshot Channel Party.

[@InvadersDie]

Read their policies first I would advise

[@oneparticularlysmartape]

@@InvadersDie Would you say, we'd have to "let them show us their features"?

[@MonkeyJedi99]

@@oneparticularlysmartape (/applause)

[@dragonsword7370]

That would make that political party an SCP in english!

[@follertdaniel]

@@InvadersDie did you mean, 'it's features?'

[@AFewWordsCombined]

I already had respect for you Jörg, I've watched you as a fellow blade/weapon enthusiast for years now, the way you carried this topic was genuine and nobody could ask for anything more.

[@CarpeNoctem135]

“Judge me not by the sins of my father” You can’t control what people did in the past, only what you do today.

[@Ferrari255GTO]

But whatcis even worse is payng for the sins of your country, wich also happens.

[@SonsOfLorgar]

@@zoch9797 if only people like you would stop lying and start admitting that BLMs reasons to protest and fight is because the crimes against the poor and coloured in the US isn't *only* historical, it's an atrocity that's still beeing perpetrated without pause.

[@specialagentdustyponcho1065]

@@zoch9797 You are parroting right-wing nonsense on a video about the dark history of Nazism.

[@D-Vinko]

@@specialagentdustyponcho1065 I'm pretty sure that guy is parroting right wing propaganda. What I'd say is; BLM needs to stop being Racist, and pretending that simply because we are white that you cannot be racist to us. Inb4 you say "no one says this" Google "You can't oppress the oppressor." More importantly, google what Affirmative action (old), and Critical Race Theory(new) are. Then realize that it's complete bullshit, and we are all oppressed by the rich; who benefit from our taxes whilst not paying their fair share, using those very saved tax dollars to fly to the edge of space SIMPLY to experience a high they haven't yet tried. That's what everyone should agree upon, race is not the advantage you have, no matter how much rich people want you to think race is the big picture, class is.

[@specialagentdustyponcho1065]

@@D-Vinko take your meds and stop parroting right-wing nonsense on a video about the evils of nazism.

[@ramiel555]

honestly, as much as I like your usual stuff, this has to be one of my favorite videos of yours-a straightforward and educational look at something that, because of its association, would generally be overlooked or ignored by most people. The original is one hell of a piece of history to have, as well

[@olmostgudinaf8100]

Amen, brother!

[@Kikker861]

Joerg, as always, talks with class and personality.

[@D33Lux]

He is such a good man, having a chance to correspond with him. Thank-you Joerg.

[@bobwalters508]

Thanks for being brave enough to share, that in my opinion would have been difficult for anyone to do. Thank you, for all of your other great videos you make!

[@anonimus370]

Joerg "Totally a huge guy" Sprave : "I'm not a huge guy"

[@anonimus370]

@thecouchtripper I'd say tall and big /huge are different things. Hes definitely a BIG guy, just not tall. I'm 1m90 myself, but his hand is probably bigger than my head.

[@mdyzward8553]

Yeah he’s solid abs strong af lol

[@andrewkline]

i was looking for this comment before i had to make it lol

[@jason200912]

@thecouchtripper yeah that's basically 5'11 to non metrics.

[@DjDolHaus86]

Joerg is a definitely a big boy but I'd agree with his assessment that he's not huge, however hand size is seemingly unconnected to height/weight (within reason). I'm fairly tall and fairly broad across the shoulders, as my father was, but I must have inherited my mothers hands because my hands are way smaller than his were. I've handled one of the german dress daggers (a close friend of mine is an antiques dealer) and while not the most comfortable thing I've ever held I can fit my hand between the guards.

[@operator8014]

My grandparents moved to the U.S. just before WW2 got serious, my father was treated VERY poorly due to his heritage, and he lived his last few years being told that he has never known what it's like to endure real discrimination... Despite my grandmothers letters describing how badly he was beaten several times every week of his childhood.

[@16bitgamerdoe34]

That's such a shit thing to go through... Hope he is doing well and or in a better place.

[@operator8014]

@@16bitgamerdoe34 Yeah, he moved us to Alaska where people will leave you the hell alone no matter what.

[@16bitgamerdoe34]

@@operator8014 I'm glad that you shared that part of your experience with us and that you are living in Alaska the last frontier where freedom and peace is in abundance... I hope. I really do hope you and your have had a better experience moving forward and that your grandfather is at peace.

[@steve22ss]

I can relate to this, I am in Australia, my grandfather moved here just before the war, he signed up to the Australian army (Imperial forces back then) he was sent to Tobruk where he fought against his own people led by Rommel, upon returning he was never treated like a hero and was demonised because of his last name, he eventually became a member of a veterans group. When I was growing up I was told my English blood line was magnificent but on the other hand my German heritage was disgraceful and I should never talk about it. Jokes on them now I brew my own German families honey lager, I partake in many old German traditions we even cook many German foods.

[@johnjay1147]

So your grandparents were communists.

[@Rahmenno]

You can hear the tone of his voice of how he is talking about this topic,it takes guts to acknowledge things like this and for that you are awesome man hope you are well and making some great vids

[@masonwank3332]

Basically he has massive nuts

[@Sam-eu9go]

Didn't happen

[@llamallama2000]

@@Sam-eu9go lol

[@crazysilly2914]

a lot of people don’t understand that the nazee’s where leftists socialist, and that WW2 started out as a socialist 'civil war' between the national socialists (Germany) and marxists socialists (Russia).

[@Sam-eu9go]

@@crazysilly2914 wrong.

[@piemonster11]

I remember finding your channel and loving your slingshot content years ago. Stumbled upon this incredibly informative and factual video presented with such passion and care. Don't know why I wasn't subscribed sooner, thanks for what you do!

[@EnjoyCocaColaLight]

Ayyy lmao - I came here from his original legolas videos.

[@Kellethorn]

Joerg, I don't have many of these. But I want you to know that you are genuinely one of the few people I can call one of my 'role models.' Absolutely brilliant.

[@panchtatra]

Yes, second that.

[@dannybullar5925]

Eye third that

[@MonteCaterno]

Very interesting video! My father (born in 1925) was almost drafted into the Waffen-xx in 1942/43. At that time he was attending a boys' secondary school in Berlin, when his class teacher came into class one morning and said: “Gentlemen, tomorrow there will be a recruiting squad of Waffen-xx here in school and everyone who has not yet volunteered for another army branch will be recruited to the Waffen-xx. I am therefore ending your lessons today and recommend that you volunteer at a recruiting office for the Wehrmacht (Army), the Luftwaffe (Air force) or the Kriegsmarine (Navy). May God be with you, goodbye.” Then he left the class, leaving my father and his classmates confused. My father (who allways had adored this teacher for his kindness and honorability) immediately ran to one of the recruiting offices and volunteered as an officer candidate in the Kriegsmarine. With him, 6 classmates also volunteered for one of the three branches of service. He served as a officer on a patrol torpedo boat in the Mediterranean Sea and the English Channel and in the beginning of 1945 went to a harbour in the already liberated Netherlands to surrender and safe the live of his crew. After the war, a total of 7 of the former students of his class met again in Berlin in 1950. Exactly these 6 and my father! All the others had gone to the eastern front with the Waffen-xx and either died or went missing there. The teacher was never seen again, presumably he was denounced and paid for this honorable action with his life. This story, which my father told me in the 1980s, has allways reminded me of the importance of having a backbone and following one's conscience and humanity. Without knowing him, I still thank that teacher today for saving my father's life! My father lived a good life until he died in 2012 at the age of 87.

[@foogoid8682]

Thank you for your story. I probably owe my existence to a similar school teacher. My grandfather had been conscripted into the Wehrmacht, into an anti-aircraft squad in Italy. His commanding officer was originally a school teacher, who took a very paternal approach and above all, wanted to ensure that "his boys" could eventually return home. When my grandfather was separated from his squad in the events around the armistice, he was ordered to regroup into an infantry battalion. With two others, he disobeyed these orders, fled the camp and traveled through enemy territory to find their original squad because of his trust in this officer. He lived to 97 years old.

[@SaltNBattery]

That's something that isn't really talked about. A lot of people really had no choice, they were conscripted by force. Threats of death and imprisonment for themselves and their family members if they refused. Sadly, similar methods were used by Allies after the War ended to get confessions. In fact, the brutality didn't end with the war. The German people were absolutely brutalized and tortured by the Russians/Americans/British. A really depressing time in human history for everyone involved. I really wish that the horrible things done by the Germans didn't overshadow all the horrific stuff done by the Russians, Japanese, Americans, and English. Especially the Japanese and Russians who just seemed to get off the hook scott free when the story of WWII is told. Specifically with regard to Japan's Unit 731, what a nightmare. What the Russians did to women and children after they "liberated" Poland and Germany. The Soviet Occupation of Germany and Poland was brutal and horrific. Over 2 Million German women and children... Well, I'll just let them tell you what the Red Army policy was, "Use force and break the racial pride of these Germanic women. Take them as your lawful booty. Kill!" In some places, every female aged 8 to 80. Often even younger. By multiple Soviet soldiers, some as many as 50 times!. Even the women/children who were "liberated" from the camps.. Many were killed after, or were driven to do that to themselves after the trauma. There were massive rates of STIs long after the end of the war. No trials were had, no justice for the victims or punishments for the Soviet soldiers. It's barely talked about in history books, if at all. I wasn't told about any of it in school. None of this should ever be censored or forgotten. As disgusting and horrible the facts are, people have to know these things and they can never happen again. 🤢😑

[@nigelmaidment7997]

We learn from history…..not be defined by it. It’s how we evolve. Great content as always. Thanks Joerg

[@hesperhurt]

Sadly many don't and just rename actions, and enact them ourselves, that we have once used as justification for wars. For some history is a lesson of avoidance. For others it's a lesson of aspiration 😔

[@onebrownmeece]

Thank you for the integrity you're showing in discussing this artifact, its history, and your history. And thank you also for breaking stereotypes - there are plenty of people in the weapons/martials arts world who will go to great lengths to not condemn their ancestors for the atrocities they committed; to avoid facing the uncomfortable truths that their relatives, who are very nice to them, were really horrible to other humans. Your grandfather sounds like a person who did the best they could in terrible circumstances. May we all learn from these stories, and may all beings find peace.

[@DrCyberanarchist]

Joerg, I can absolutely relate. My grandfather, who I,absolutely adored, died when I was 14. After his death, I learned he was an active Klu Klux Klan member. I was devastated. To my knowledge, he was not responsible for any atrocities, but the fact he was a member was difficult to reconcile. As a man in his fifties, I now recognize that first, We are not responsible for the actions of those who came before us. Second, that humans are complex and messy and can be two things at the same time. Thanks for sharing. ALL families have skeletons in their closets,.

[@mr.powell8817]

Having met a few members (I meet a lot of people from a lot of backgrounds), I've figured that there's two basic factions. You have the ones that do pretty much nothing except have barbecues in the woods and don't allow people who aren't very traditionalist or religious, and you have the ones that burn crosses and shout about how much they dislike non-whites. One wear jeans and button-up shirts, the other wears a bedsheet and a medieval princess' hat.

[@zolowzurkon2533]

Well I don't know why you would be crushed. 100% you probably would have been kkk too. People forget what all was going on. Just because people joined the kkk didn't mean they believed everything that was going on was okay. Remember everything that you knew was changing. None of those changes where in you and your families favor.

[@rmenard1986]

Its okay to be WHITE

[@bjmurrey]

if we were all judged by our worst deeds, no one could stand. Like jesus said in the new testament - if you hate your brother without cause it's akin to murder! We are all broken vessels. Glad you loved your grandpa and he loved you. My grandpa lived to 93. He is a purple-heart winner from pearl harbor. Hated the japanese for years. In his 70s and 80s though I remember him always taking me to the local donut shop owned by japanese family and he LOVED those people. He learned too late that what we divide over is rarely worth it. I'd much rather have the KKK around and know who they are than to ban them and not have any idea who is who. But I bet even most Klan members arent much more than passive racists. We all have a bit of that in us sadly. Dont believe me? Wait til a different-looking person cuts you off in traffic lol

[@BRBMrSoul]

@@bjmurrey grandfather was a paratrooper in Burma, British officer with the Gurkhas. Ya he had…similar prejudice, rem gave me stink eye as a kid watching anime and playing Pokémon. I don’t think ever truly hated Japanese tho, and just shows how fear (saw some messed up stuff) can influence us so deeply. Asked him once about it few years before he passed away. Said as much as didnt “trust them”, he’d never respected a group of people more in his life…because they commonly out smarted him and that’s why he feared them, and reminded me no excuse for me ever act same way, was his damage and he fought so that we could live in world free of such things.

[@TomFromMars]

I'm from France where every family fancies itself for having resistance fighters in their ancestry. But let me tell you, for many of us, including my own family, the truth goes from far more blurred to downright dark. Thanks for the honesty man. Let's never forget that these people who did evil and horrible things were humans just like us. Let not this darkness take us over. Your honesty is to be saluted as well as your overall positivity.

[@geargodanimations]

Same here my great grandfather was a part of the landing in Normandy.

[@sejuanisupportonly7385]

My grandfather's name is actually recorded in local history as being among the few people that fought back when the Germans came (grandfather was up on a church bell-tower with a stationary automatic). That was what HE did. I do *not* understand people being proud of things that were done by *other* people, before they were even born. I mean, why??? I am only glad that grand-dad survived and here I am all those years afterwards. :) Unless your grandfather was a pirate or something like that and you STILL live off the millions he stole, I do not see why you should feel any shame about the deeds of past generations either.

[@geargodanimations]

@@sejuanisupportonly7385 I agree with that statement it's another person entirely and they shouldn't be persecuted for crimes they didn't do. My great grandfather was on the American side during that war. Cool to hear your grandpa was a badass.

[@TomFromMars]

@@sejuanisupportonly7385 As you said, it's other persons deeds. We should derive pride from acting like a good person in every day life. As to what we would do in a dire situation like what our grand parents knew, i hope we never have to find out.

[@yeahnaaa292]

You sound very like an apologist. Humans like you quite likely. Quite unlike me.

[@ryanrodrigues5355]

Being up-front and honest about everything is really appreciated and also really refreshing!

[@DragonsinGenesisPodcast]

Thanks for sharing this part of your family history. Glad to hear that your grandfather was not an evil person. Those 14th century daggers are beautiful. So sad that such an iconic blade has been forever tainted by this dark part of our past.

[@TheDarkNikolai1]

This is exactly the type of KZbin Video the world deserves. Informative, personal, and well structured. Joerg, you're a legend.

[@billgeorge7804]

The actions a parent do not define those of their children. You’re a good man Joerg, an engineer of great ability.

[@zzodysseuszz]

Bruh the parent is the ultimate factor on a child’s upbringing. Saying a parents actions don’t define their children is so untrue. Children are the number one victims of their parents actions, they are moulded by them

[@taekwondotime]

Unless of course you're a white person living in America, in which case you'll be blamed endlessly by black people for slavery. (The usual double standard of course.)

[@TheBelrick]

How you enjoying being locked in your home as a healthy person? Loving your permission to travel slip? What about the fact that your nation and leaders hate you for the crime of being a white male?

[@teaser6089]

@@zzodysseuszz Yes, but if my dad woke up and chose to murder 20 people on the street, does that make me a murderer too? Answer: No.

[@teaser6089]

@@_Green_Onions_ Although I am not religious, you are right, each man should be judged upon his own actions and his own reasons, not for those of the father or mother.

[@TheNordicBrotherhood]

Joerg: *admiring his weapon collection* Some guy: *insults Joergs honour* Joerg: "Let me show you it's features! Hah hah"

[@EvillClaws]

lmao

[@Gainn]

"Let me show you your intestines.."

[@brookep1]

Oh please someone make a movie with that happening. Can we get Bautista and Joerg in a horrible buddy cop movie please!

[@gs637]

LOL!!!

[@HauptgefreiterB]

There is at least one "Hah" missing.

[@parsifalgoetz1237]

my german grandfather was an electrician. I found a hard hat with two thunderbolts from him…

[@phillipsmejkal1]

Still doesn't mean he wasn't one. 😂

[@Slithermotion]

@@phillipsmejkal1 bro...

[@OphielPan]

🤣🤣

[@puakagrinder2766]

So they was electricians during wwll, now l know what the double thunderbolt means 🤣😆🤣

[@jordbjor1]

I’d say he was a genuine guy and nothing to be ashamed about sharing his story. Thanks for sharing his story

[@Ferrari255GTO]

Look, many times our ancersors dont represent us, and wether he was or not he is not you. We will keep supporting you no matter who or what your grandpa did/was

[@raantan6683]

Indeed.

[@James-en1ob]

Agreed.

[@jeffl4802]

I would like to add that sometimes even our current world doesnt represent what we are as individuals. The people in power do not often represent the people they rule over.

[@dragoonTT]

Even sometimes the son of evil becomes evils enemy. Family is not a choice.

[@calebmarkle1866]

@@dragoonTT Even Hitler's Nephew defected to the US and actively fought on the Allied side of the war.

[@DEADMALLANGEL]

This took alot of care to discuss this difficult of a topic in such an honest and even-handed way. And alot of bravery to even want to put it out there. Big respect.

[@rojerww]

Precisely accurate.

[@ElmerJFudd-oi9kj]

I totally agree.

[@cjaydustie1867]

Would I ever like to live in a country that allows you to defend your honour…even a country that allows you to defend yourself from physical harm period. Society has went the way of favouring the unjust and criminal, disgusting.

[@elrohirthehasty]

I'm impressed that you confronted Boeker on the issue, and they responded favorably and have modified the design.

[@Alpha_Synergy]

How was the design modified?

[@More-Space-In-Ear]

@@Alpha_Synergy stopped making them. Rewatch the video

[@Alpha_Synergy]

@@More-Space-In-Ear Yeah, I saw that after I finished watching. I left the comment before finishing the video, and left the comment partially to stop other similar questions from others wondering the same thing.

[@kevinyork4642]

You have my utmost respect Joerg. Everyone and every country has history that they are not proud of, but if no-one talks about it will happen again...

[@teaser6089]

Indeed, I really hope some organisations will upscale, colour and interpolate to 60hz that old war footage for once, and make it a nececary watch for all school children. Yes it's brutal, but people have to learn that WW2 wasn't just a big war, it went much deeper than that and I fear that especially the generations after milanials(my generation) just don't get it, or don't want to understand it.

[@tyreikwest6178]

Expect America lol we have no shame unfortunately

[@Kali-8]

Agreed

[@demarc9971]

@@tyreikwest6178 Which part of America? I’ll take a guess you mean the USA. You know nothing more then what you see online lol

[@GrahamMilkdrop]

@@tyreikwest6178 You said 'we have no shame unfortunately' which implies that you are American and that you are ashamed which kinda proves you wrong! People are not responsible for the actions of their forebears nor for the actions of organisations which refuse to be held accountable to those people.... we are only responsible for the things we can directly influence in spite of the democratic facade presented to us which serves to have us blame each other and not those who are actually responsible! (As a point of interest it is good to look up the difference between guilt and shame because in its most literal meaning shame is a very negative and disempowering emotion.)

[@UncySpam]

I think acknowledging the past, accepting what happened and educating others about it is an incredibly noble (and wise) thing to do. It’s too easy for people to gloss over that part of history, and not learn at all from. Thank you for sharing - I’m sure it was difficult, but I hope you feel glad to have done so.

[@lurk7967]

My great grandfather was in the Van doos and my farther was talking to one of his war buddies on the phone before he died and they said that in every NATSO occupied area the VAN Doos hung a NATSO soldier in the city square as their calling card idk dead or alive but that happened you wont find it on google but it happened So if we are apologizing for the acts of our kinsmen its not like the other side has no brutalities to own up to its simply that far and few in between we'll learn about the Brutalitis committed by us.

[@Valdyr_Hrafn]

You talked well about this dangerous topic! A lot will openly say that discussing these topics should be encouraged freely (and that is mostly true), but it should ALWAYS be done in a way where we never normalize or even allow people to enterpret it in a positive way. Horrible things in this world exist and we must always condemn them or we are bound to face them again.

[@LegendofNelda]

That's the g ayest thing I've ever heard

[@theninjaneersgrabouw512]

Thank you for sharing this history with us Joerg. this is the first time i have heard this history from a descendant and it only made it more tangible and relatable. We forget that these men were someone's father or grandfather. thank you for your brutal honesty and directness and for giving the daggers themselves a fair shake.

[@massimogaglione9199]

Dear Joerg, not only you are a great engineer and a fantastic communicator and disseminator of your and other engineer's creations, your enthusiasm is evident, true and contagious (sorry I use this last term, probably not the right moment in history...). You are a very straightforward person, and I consider you a friend by now. Having a beer with you would be a great honour, and, I'm sure, also a lot of fun. I admire your decision to open your heart about the past of your Family. Germany has learned from the errors of the past, and, to be honest, we cannot ignore that the rest of the world shares a lot of responsibility in what happened almost 90 years ago. By no mean I intend to excuse what the Naxist regime did, but we cannot hide the fact that thehe Treaty of Versailles and the terrible, really excessive and extreme conditions imposed by the winners of World War I established the bases of all that happened later. Humiliating Germany and throwing it into extreme poverty was clearly a big mistake. We all hope that we won't have to see brothers fighting brothers again. Bravo Joerg!

[@AlexRixon]

Delivered in good faith with respect and a good heart. That seems like a better measure of your honour Joerg. Well done mate.

[@nathancole6678]

I appreciate your courage and honesty. I am glad you confronted Boker on their poor choices in marketing. -A fan from when it was just a slingshot channel, and a fan of the current “instant legolas” channel too ;)

[@ripvanwinkle2002]

i respect your honesty. i hope you know no one who watches you, would ever think to blame you for history you were not a part of. Cheers from the USA..

[@FerroMancer]

I am so glad to see everyone commenting their support here. One of my favorite sayings is: "You are personally responsible for becoming more ethical than the society you grew up in." You are embodying that, and there are few things I respect more. Be well, sir.

[@TheGuzeinbuick]

Note to self: do not attack Jeorg's honour. He has a thousand different weapons by which to legally escalate.

[@kusazero]

Well, maybe outside of Germany

[@willyjimmy8881]

Don't make him show you their features

[@sirqui2751]

He can weaponize himself, so it doesnt really matter where you attack his honour

[@bigguy7353]

Can only use one at a time.

[@theamericanviking1835]

Noone thinks that's sad though? You hurt my feeling with words so i get to attack you? You know who does that? Children😂😂😂 No I'm not insulting Joerg I love him, I'm insulting the children running his country.

[@mobagamers8204]

This was incredibly tastefully done and informative on the history of the time. long time fan of the channel.

[@craigvandyke5136]

Joerg you are by far one of the most real people on the internet. I find your candor, and honesty so refreshing.

[@hopper9751]

Very good presentation. Honest, succinct and historically accurate. A dark period of modern history that should always serve to remind us how bad and how good people can be. Let's hope it is never repeated. Keep up the good work Joerg.

[@MichaelSmith-xt8bt]

Already being repeated right now as you live and breath wake up dude

[@Tom13GN]

Great Job, I can appreciate how difficult telling your family history could have been. I had the pleasure to be deployed to Afghanistan to support the German Air Force, working side-by-side with some the best people I have ever known!

[@fredfour0]

"I am not a huge guy" Well alright, I must be a child

[@rafaelestremoz3253]

same here...

[@GuitarsRockForever]

Same. I'm surprised Jorg is only 180cm (5'10). That means I'm at the same height, but he looks four times bigger.

[@JagerLange]

Joerg > SS puny men.

[@kooroshrostami27]

@@GuitarsRockForever same here I am 181cm but Jörg is at least 3 times T H I C C E R

[@cstyt124]

🤣

[@felipenascimento1083]

"this is exactly how i remember him" that made me tear up a little, i too miss my grandpa

[@jennydeamhan1703]

As someone who is extremely interested in history as a way to learn from the past, thank you for sharing. I had members of my family on both sides, but it has never been talked about in any large capacity. War brings out the horrid side of human nature. To remember is to never repeat. Thanks again for your amazing videos!

[@PatPatych]

I'm not sure you've learned anything, with that "I have pronouns in my twitter bio" avatar.

[@jennydeamhan1703]

@@PatPatych Need a hug?

[@PatPatych]

@@jennydeamhan1703 Definitely not from you.

[@juliaf_]

Ayo nice picrew!

[@jennydeamhan1703]

@@PatPatych K

[@rfletch62]

I'm glad you're grandfather made it through, and you have some memories of him.

[@rev.j.chriswallace642]

Joerg, you handled this most difficult and horrific subject with grace, great humility and sensitive precaution --- qualities the world needs more of. Well done and many, many thanks.

[@AJBernard]

Joerg, your fans love you. We always will. Thank you for all the amazing work you do.

[@joekaz5198]

All history, nomatter how dark, is human history. Thank you for sharing this with us, Jeorg. And nobody questions your good character.

[@herrvarga7636]

That's something that fearful anti-weapons people will never understand: You can build deadly arms like huge slingshots that shoot big steel nuts through plywood, or invent a repeating compound bow with an arrow magazine, and still be a decent man with a good character.

[@Henchman_Holding_Wrench]

German history was a large part of my time in university classrooms. I really do appreciate the more personal stories that fit into what I've learned already.

[@AbnormallyDisfigured]

its probably communist rhetoric anyways, you've learned nothing really.

[@Toverneger]

@@AbnormallyDisfigured How do you know what he has and hasn't learnt?

[@bigguy7353]

Careful learning anything in university classrooms for the past 25 years.

[@bigguy7353]

@@Toverneger "University classroom" was the big tell. Current events, no?

[@Toverneger]

@@bigguy7353 You've clearly never been to more than one university

[@Frosty_tha_Snowman]

Earth is lucky to have this man, he is a gift to all humanity, and I couldn't care less what his historical familiar circumstances are, he's an awesome dude.

[@twmbwen1402]

Frosty, I like the cut of your jib. You sound like a decent chap.

[@Hex180]

Familial*

[@zakquack]

i know, his grandpa sounds like an amazing man

[@stijnvdv2]

meh, history is subjective. Was WW2 Germany bad? Certainly.... however this pure evil thing.... in the context of things... no. I mean the communists have historically always been worse.... wether you talk about last century or Robespiere's reign of terror. The west doesn't like to talk about it very much coz you know, everything mainstream is pretty marxist or marxist emphasizers. Even the BBC has one of those marxists ugly 'art by commission' statues above their headquarter. The New York Times was praising the USSR in a time that the Holodomor and the Gulags were in full swing... so yeah, there is that.

[@mikefule]

What a dignified presentation, made all the more powerful by the fact that we are more familiar with you in your jolly and jovial persona. Thank you for sharing the story of your grandfather. We need reminding constantly that in any dictatorship, there are many who are just trying to stay alive while the madness swirls around them, and they are sometimes obliged to make horrible compromises. Separate point: in English, the word "backside" refers to the part of your body that you sit on. For a knife, medal, coin, etc., we would use "obverse" for the front and "reverse" for the back.

[@danielbroome5690]

You can absolutely use back-side (with the hyphen) in english (which sounds identical) to mean the reverse side of an object. I suppose it depends where you live, but it sounds totally normal to me in English.

[@mikefule]

@@danielbroome5690 Used in that way, it would be two words and no need for the hyphen. However, most people would say "back" or "reverse" rather than "backside". There is also the matter of where the stress is when it's spoken.

[@truthadvocacy]

US is like the pot calling the kettle black.😂

[@InformationIsTheEdge]

I DIG that complementary posts like yours are so popular in this thread!

[@Iceburgh6901]

"Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it." This was indeed a sensitive topic, and I feel that it was handled well. When I was living in West Germany, my family took me to Dachau. I don't remember much of that trip, but one thing that I do remember is that quote.

[@StarsForward]

Very true! 👍🏻

[@lurk7967]

You should watch the documentary "One Third of the Holocaust" People who are less versed will call it denial but it's not it explains a lot of things and points out a lot of logical inconsistencies without denying that persecution happened tho

[@Nyctophora]

Thank you for an interesting and measured lesson in world history - as time goes on, fewer people will remember men like your grandfather personally, and the nuances of history are in danger of being lost. The more details we have, the better. I consider myself privileged to have known a WWI veteran growing up, and it always takes me by surprise to see that the old men marching in armstice parades are now from WWII. Keeping history alive is important.

[@Stilgarsan]

about Hugo Boss: that is a common missconception: Hugo Boss did not design the SS uniform, but his company manufactured them.

[@ChicagoTurtle1]

That doesn’t make much of a change towards how I feel about Hugo Boss.

[@Sujamma_Enjoyer]

@@ChicagoTurtle1 yea I’d still buy them even if they just made them

[@ScorieDivine]

@@ChicagoTurtle1 Beautiful clothes from a beautiful company?

[@r_e046]

@@ScorieDivine That's one way to interpret it.

[@rasiabsgamingcorner2258]

Bingo. I always correct people about this mostly because the actual creator atleast what I've seen seems to be goebbels and or himmler

[@MrNo0p]

The SS uniforms were in fact not designed by Hugo Boss. The SS uniforms were designed by SS-Oberführer Prof. Karl Diebitsch and Walter Heck in 1932 and only produced by the Hugo Boss company.

[@michellewilt4479]

My friend, that was a delicate subject beautifully handled. Thank you. As for the past, I think you summed it up incredibly well with "never forget this chapter of history that shall never be repeated." Im glad your grandfather lived well after his experiences, and he obviously did well in raising your father and being there for you to turn you into the good man you are today. He was faced with a hard choice that none can fault him for. I couldn't imagine how terrible it was for him to be told "sign up or die." Thank you for this, and for honoring his memory by telling of his experiences.

[@dreamlandinbrazil]

I really enjoy every one of Joerg's presentations. He has the right attitude towards every presentation he makes. His English is very entertaining and actually very good. Good work!

[@English.Andy1]

It was a part of history that shouldn’t be airbrushed over. It did happen & we must learn from it so it’s not repeated. Thanks for the video 👍

[@jamescanjuggle]

i know ot was taught in my schools here in ireland, but mainly germany was focused cause of our connection to britain and just ease of access to reading materials

[@sebastianriz4703]

@@hnewc1919 I am going to assume its because China and Russia weren't the center of attention during WWII and thus they were able to keep an lot of things hush hush from the allies. An tradition still going on to this day with the CCP and I am sure Russia is probably still doing some hienus shit every now and than.

[@Mis73rRand0m]

@@hnewc1919 Sebastian Riz is accurate; we directly fought the Germans in WWII and therefore their (and Japanese) crimes are full-focus to counter the horrors we put their citizens through. We fought he hell out of Russia and China through proxy "conflicts" since, and committed no direct atrocities to their population, hence no need to justify. We just make movies about ( and money off of) our part in East Asia instead.

[@101Rockhound]

@@hnewc1919 One thing for sure, history as it's taught to us is full of one sided stories half truths and outright lies.

[@jamescanjuggle]

@@hnewc1919 man im just throwing in my two cents, I've no stake in this game to "concede" to anything really

[@classytree4128]

A beautiful piece with a terrible past. Thank you so much for sharing. I appreciate your willingness to educate us on such a sensitive topic, as well as you sharing your own family history. I always love seeing your videos pop up on my feed. You handled the subject with the appropriate amount of care to ensure that no glory was offered to some of history's greatest monsters. Once again, thank you.

[@brodie2711]

Well done Joerg for being so open about your grandfather and his unwillingness to join the Waffen SS. He sounds like an ordinary Joe who had no control over his circumstances. By the way, I really find your channel really interesting.

[@abysswalker2594]

The good man of auziwtis he was a soldier but still a doctor in the end

[@Litauen-yg9ut]

When the Germans were being pushed out of the 'buffer' countries my Dad was given 2 choices. Volunteer in our cause... or you're coming anyways. So get to eat or be worked to death. I'm here, so he chose the first one. more to it than that but I was told that was priority, survival. and contrary to some the Soviets were waaaay worse to the east Europe countries that the Germans were...

[@wumarNart]

"I'm not a huge guy" -Joerg Sprave, a huge guy.

[@tjrizvi251]

Dude can literally wrestle an alligator AND a Crocodile and win

[@50StichesSteel]

I'm getting tired of Germans not being able to talk about their history without being called nazis in modern day..It's ridiculous...It is just history now..We should ALL learn from it, so we don't repeat it.

[@KP3droflxp]

I think it isn’t really about the history, it’s about owning this artefact and replicas of it

[@noah_hill]

it if the Weimar republic bred Nazism and we are reentering Weimar conditions then the cycle continues, no lessons were leaned.

[@solarson7363]

more like truth as first casualty of war and the guilt constantly relentlessly pounded into the innocent

[@Nikotheleepic]

@@noah_hill well perhaps we should have never entered Weimar 2, I think that's the real issue what comes after is just a natural consequence for the selfishness of others.

[@noah_hill]

@@Nikotheleepic better luck next time, and if you think it's a racial thing then look at every other far right coup in the world that aren't German, humans have a natural limit to how much change can happen at fast pace and we are going VERY fast

[@danielblackburn4626]

Very honorable presentation. I think what many post-war generations lack is the humanity of both sides. You presented this exquisitely. My grandfather likely fought against some of your grandfathers allies but this does not engender any negative emotion for me. Thankfully I was raised to understand there are honorable people in every bad conflict and war. Only hateful people give all a bad rap. Thank you for being bold enough to present your story.

[@seanfaherty]

But that is different than when your ancestor is not honourable and holds a decidedly un-Democratic world view. I had a Grampa that fought in the IRA during the Civil War. While I applaud his goals I have problems with some of their tactics. My Dad says I don't understand but I'm afraid I do. The ends do not justify the means

[@gabbajon5654]

Of course I acknowledge war is complex and conscription was common in Germany but these people were fighting to eradicate what they saw as impure (or anyone who wasn't "Aryan", straight and fascist). I hardly think that counts as honorable. In fact it makes me sick even thinking about it.

[@jimofthejungle02]

"I'm not a huge guy" Proceeds to make men of a similar stature seem puny

[@danielschmaderer]

Honestly, the way I see it, just because you’re German doesn’t mean Nazis are connected to you, despite your grandfathers forced history. Even in your story about him, I wouldn’t see him as a Nazi if I ever spoke to him. It sounds like he just wanted to live his life and separate that chapter of his life. Sure Hitler had Germany at the tip of his fingers to put it simply, but that part of history doesn’t represent you. The actions Nazis took doesn’t define YOU. You are an awesome guy doing what you love in the most innocent way possible. You don’t have any reason to defend yourself. Keep doing what you enjoy and I’ll always watch and stand by your channel, no matter what content you put out.

[@Hellsparkt]

i realise Germany is a very reserved country so i appreciate you taking time to give us insight in your family history.

[@sirsteam6455]

@àsper It's especially sad since Germany is a wonderful country with a deep and rich history but is marred by a short 12 years out of the centuries of their existence.

[@sirsteam6455]

@àsper National Socialism is an abhorrent ideology atleast when it has been practiced, and it is those who follow said ideology who are the enemy of humanity and of Germany. Furthermore Countries have no race they are not bound by color nor by blood but by the minds of all their denizens.

[@sirsteam6455]

@àsper " country conform to their racial culture, that country can be called by the race." Except there is not homogenous culture to which a race conforms to the French differ greatly in culture to that of the Germans or the Americans but both are Majority White so that is a false hood. "Racially homogenous regions can form more stable societies than racially diverse ones. National Socialism observes the natural phenomenon of race identity and applies it in their nation, regardless of their race." While that is true that racial homogeny is more stable than diverse societies that is no reason for segregation along racial lines or to apply racial identity to a nation there are many other ways to identify with a nation however race should not be one of them. "Today, the technocratic empire seeks to do away with racial identity to divide people and conquer them." That is simply a falsehood no empire in history in past or in present has done anything remotely like that the majority of instances an Empire has conquered anyone is by exploiting and perpetuating those differences. No to mention like you said before a racially homogenous group is more stable however it is only stable because everyone feels as if they are apart of that group and as such if people felt if they were apart of the group even if they were of a different race it would be stable thus what you imply contradicts what you said prior and is a general falsehood. " Anyone of any race can be a National Socialist." True but the majority of National Socialists have done nothing to improve their nations instead causing bloodshed and chaos and or ruining the reputation of the nation in case of Germany based on racial motivations and imperialistic motivations.

[@sirsteam6455]

@àsper " They used all their power to stop National Socialism and continued a demonization campaign that's still going to this day." And that was needed though it appears the demonization campaign has done nothing but backfire and is a violation of civilian rights at least in my view however National Socialism should have been stopped. "If you have the patience to watch Europa The Last Battle you'll see the historic side of what I'm trying to explain to you." There is no need to watch a clearly biased film no matter which side it supports ,history is based in fact and that fact clearly shows National Socialism as negative is most social aspects. "A nation of French, German, and Italian will be more prosperous and peaceful than one of Chinese, Ugandan, and Polish people. The more the cultures differ the less the society will be able to function." Say that to Yugoslavia or to the Austro-Hungarian Empire both of which with similar cultures within their populace but both fell mainly to instability within their country to due racial and national tensions, so while generally it can be considered that way in practice it isn't and can very easily sway the opposite way completely. Furthermore what are you to do sure similar races and cultures work better than outside races and culture in principle generally anyways but what are you to do kick out all racial minorities in a vain attempt at racial homogeny because you cannot find an easier way to unite a people?

[@sirsteam6455]

@àsper "War and conflict can break out within a same nation, that still doesn't disprove my point. You're ignoring my point and trying to pretend I'm making a claim about an inviolable golden rule. That's dishonest of you." Never did I ignore your point nor did I claim such, you said and quote "The more the cultures differ the less the society will be able to function." to which I responded with "Say that to Yugoslavia or to the Austro-Hungarian Empire" I did not say however that you created such a rule I even later said "so while generally it can be considered that way in practice it isn't " which is too say that similar culture and races does not equal or commonly equal peace or stability which is true throughout history and is not avoiding your point as you said "The more the cultures differ the less the society will be able to function." So in fact it is dishonest of you to claim such when did not read what I had said . " don't know what race are you but if you're white you really don't need nonwhites to have a prosperous society. The opposite is true of nonwhites," That is grossly wrong in every way, seeing as how the second and third highest GDP having countries are those in the East namely China and Japan, and with how much Political influence Japan and China have on people it is wrong in that way too. Not only do the Asians make plenty of money equal to or exceeding that of Europe and the Americas they also have a large sphere of influence that is not including the fact that most of their countries recent history has been dominated by European Intervention and Imperialism . So even with Europe Technological and Politically ahead of them they managed to catch up and exceed most European countries and they are clearly not white and do not require our support at all at least anymore that we require them. The generally failure of Africa and the Southern parts of America is mostly due to foreign intervention and colonialism. The latter being especially true in Africa's case as time and time again every time a large powerful force is taken away from an area a power vacuum occurs and with Africa's abundance in materials it makes this even more chaotic not to mention the fact foreign nations meddle in order to control the areas for said material. In South America the revolutions the rebelled against Spanish rule proved to the same effect and since no centralized entity came into existence it split into many groups again causing madness so to blame this failure on them is a falsehood because it only happen because European meddling to begin with, just like how European countries often fall to outside meddling. "This isn't a 2 hour emotional Hollywood movie made by a pedophile." even so it is clearly motivated by personally beliefs rather than fact and is a film ,no matter how long it is does not matter the fact is it is motivated by politics not by the facts of History to which any faithful historian is dedicated to. Furthermore if everything can be verified anyways without the film there is no need to watch it since all the information is already present and mot likely easier to digest than 12 hrs. of crappy film. Again in Short National Socialism and Segregation have never worked in practice without disastrous consequences occurring with their systems.

[@weebsmcgee7012]

How did I just find this channel? Super knowledgeable! I'm subbed now

[@ThomasD4]

Thank you for sharing, Joerg. This was all very interesting to learn about, and I can tell you're a man of good character by how carefully you planned out your intro and how you went about making this video.

[@Ozarks420]

History is literally in the past lmao. Every person who watches you can see that you are a beautiful soul. Keep up the great content my dude.

[@TrugoyEveryDay]

I just wanna quote "history is literally in the past lmao" I love that sentence, sincerely

[@StygianArts]

everything I have seen of this guy affirms that, i'd seldom ever use the term beautiful soul but I believe it's applicable to this distinguished gentleman.

[@drsnk6854]

You're a man of true temperance with will and courage. To look introspectivly at such a topic and share history with an impersonal honest heart. Keep it going

[@JustWilson]

Thank you so much for deciding to share this! As a historian hobbyist I’ve come to see how valuable these accounts from the wars of the past are to us. There is a lesson in everything we can take away for the present day society to benefit. I know as a German, like many other Germans I have met feel like there is still some sort of need to apologise for their ancestors past, when clearly if counting ones actions you as a country have done so much to maintain peace and stability with their neighbours and countries far afield. Thank you again for providing this window into history! All the best

[@roccoelleto9900]

No one is responsible for their ancestor's actions unless they continue them forward. Very courageous of you.

[@mooblerthomson9851]

If only people thought that about a certain other group of people. You are very correct though.

[@veryblocky]

I would argue that in this case, his ancestors actions were not wrong, his grandfather was drafted, what choice did he have?

[@dominic.h.3363]

"Kind of a hard word when you're speaking English." I've been completely fluent in German since childhood, I only learned English seven years later, and I still can't casually switch mid-sentence to German without butchering the pronunciation of the word I dropped into the sentence! :D

[@TrueSonOfWalhall]

ich mach das irgendwie dauernd mitten im satz sprachen zu wechseln

[@lvcsslacker]

that's fascinating to me... Language is a weird thing.

[@TrueSonOfWalhall]

@@lvcsslacker it definetly is. currently I'm switching between mostly 3 languages: German, English and Finnish (mostly cursing for that one though, don't know much else lol)

[@GothamClive]

@@TrueSonOfWalhall Same language combination here. Finnish is really hard. Next, I'm gonna start Swedish. :)

[@dominic.h.3363]

@nickfrito That's not what I've meant. If I'm speaking German, I sound 100% like a german, and the same goes for English. Schwarzenegger has been speaking English for longer than I've been alive, but my pronunciation is orders of magnitudes better. What I can't do is switch pronunciations mid-sentence.

[@richardcolbourne6151]

My mother in law's grandfather was a U-boat mariner and my grandfather was in the british merchant navy. There's every chance they both could have fired on eachother in anger during the war and yet decades later their descendants would come together one day to talk about it over pizza in Dusseldorf. Great video 👍

[@aurochf1]

I once talked with an old german man who had been a U-boat sailor and he would still cry when remembering those times. He told us that he swore that he would kill himself before getting into one of those again. My grandfather, who during WWII was in the shipyards of NW Spain (he was doing his military service, fortunately after the civil war) told me that U-boats would come there for repairs and many german soldiers would kill themselves.

[@kaufmanat1]

They wouldn't have fired in anger. If anything, they'd have fired either in fear, or as a sense of duty. Probably not in anger. The angry soldier that wants to murder everyone was the exception, not the rule.

[@richardcolbourne6151]

@@aurochf1 I don't think I could've handled being in one of those tubes either. Thanks for sharing your story.

[@aurochf1]

@@richardcolbourne6151 Me neither, a real life nightmare.

[@antoniobaskin3333]

@@aurochf1 why did they kill them selves?

[@Sn00pyguy]

We all really appreciate your transparency, but there is no reason to be ashamed of what your ancestor's have done! It doesn't reflect on you as a person. It is supremely important to talk about the past, and I even enjoy discussions of it so I appreciate this video even more. Thank you for all that you do. I went to Tod's site and bought myself a Bowie Knife. Can't wait for it to arrive!