SLIP TEST - Audi A6 Allroad 3.0 TDI Quattro vs Subaru Outback 2.5i S-AWD -

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Audi A6 Allroad 3.0 TDI (45) 8AT Quattro (2020)
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Subaru Outback 2.5i CVT S-AWD (2015)
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[@helpsupport9322]

same tyres?

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

No. Tyres do not influence this test.

[@helpsupport9322]

@@4x4.tests.on.rollers i had 4matic, quattro, awd, russian niva 4x4, and none of them is better than quattro. Tyres doesnt affect this test? please remove your channel.

[@jovandjukic5923]

@@helpsupport9322 can you explain how tires influence on this test? Friction? Here is not about tires.

[@subazealand9158]

@@helpsupport9322 why would tyres make a difference on the rollers? Lol, please remove your comment 😂

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

@@helpsupport9322 Do you see any lack of grip here? Do you see any tyre slippage which causes that car is not able to move forward? Prove your point but please use Ff, μs, μk, N. Do not use convictions.

[@markmalinowski5951]

In the USA, the Audi allroad starts at $65,900 while the Subaru starts at $26,645 and at the very most is $40,000 for the XT. I don't need "Luxury", I just don't want to get stuck in the snow. For what you get, Subaru is a great value. Here in Upper Michigan we get sometimes 300 inches (over 7 meters) of snow annually, I have a Subaru XV with snow tires and never have gotten stuck. How much snow do you get in your part of Poland? My grandfather was from the southeastern part near Ukraine.

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

I am also from southeastern part of Poland (Rzeszow). Now we have almost no snow here but some years ago we had really snowy winters. Not 7 metres but enough to get stuck very often with 2WD cars.

[@normt5463]

Audi is luxury segment where no Subaru goes even at $40K. Plus when the snow melts like most of the year in the Great Lakes area you'll want the superior handling of the car-based A6. Or for low US$20's a Regal TourX 2.0T with torque vectoring AWD and 295 lb-ft of torque as standard.

[@Suleimenoff]

@@normt5463 no offence but Audi and superior handling do not belong in the same sentence. If anything it is not better than Subaru because it is heavier and the engine is located outside the wheel base, whereas Subaru is lighter, has lighter engine, which is located withing the wheelbase.

[@normt5463]

@@Suleimenoff an Audi will cream just about any Subaru on a road course or autocross with the correct driver...no contest!

[@maskerua6779]

@@normt5463 Audi has so much understeer, in what galaxy it drives better then Subaru?) No one can compete with Subaru in autocross...

[@Mightybunyip]

Not going to add to the Audi vs Subaru arguments. But this shows that Subaru’s AWD system is very good. Here in Australia our 2010 outback was able to tackle the “outback” and go places that you wouldn’t expect a car of that size and weight to be able to go to.

[@jakebiel8979]

Both did well but the OB looked like it did a little better

[@maoandmi]

Man this channel is comprehensive

[@Phil5900]

Hello, I have just a question, not related to this video: I wonder why you dont have a test from a Jeep Wrangler. This would be sooo great. But of course with no lockers in use. Thank you so much for this and go on with your great roller tests, guys!!!

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

Hi. We don't have Wrangler yet cause so far there was no volunteer with Wrangler...

[@2S1L3NT]

Without the lockers it'll be pretty predictable. It's open diff front and rear... 1 Roller in front and 1 roller in back, it'll go nowhere. 3 will be even worse. 1 roller up front it'll drive right off. 1 roller in back it'll drive right off. (all in 4x4 mode obviously) You're welcome.

[@YaroShendrik]

Subaru - one love

[@GGM20000]

Are the rollers the same in both tests?

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

Yes.

[@michelebicc6983]

A6 with Torsen right? So basically with more torque sent to the rear axle (60:40). That would explain why it was harder to get out from the rollers using only a front tyre.

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

Yes, torsen C.

[@zepter00]

Michele Bicc but it is more RWD feel like and less understeer.

[@ardian_h2294]

Gdzie są mistrzowie od legendarnego quattro😂

[@Audipowerlt]

Symmetrical awd invented in 1962!!!

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

@@Audipowerlt 1972.

[@Audipowerlt]

@@4x4.tests.on.rollers sorry my Mistake

[@tomaszoslizo9226]

W praktyce. Rolki to sytuacja teoretyczna. Torsen, potrafi multiplikowac moment na osi która ma przyczepność. Jeżeli koła są na rolkach lub w powietrzu to wielokrotność 0 to nadal 0. Normalnie ESP przyhamowuje koło bez przyczepności i wtedy auto rusza. Nie wiem dlaczego tak to nie zadziałało w przypadku tego allroad'a. W testach terenowych ESP w audi reaguje bardzo szybko.

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

​@@tomaszoslizo9226Ktoś kiedyś wymyślił, że rolki to zerowe opory i tak powstała urban legend. Nawet koło wiszące w powietrzu generuje opory, a co dopiero stojące na rolce, obciążone masą samochodu. Nigdy nie ma zera, więc torsen zawsze mnoży jakiś moment. Co do hamowania, to nie ESP, a TC/EDL wykonuje tutaj to zadanie i w przypadku tego Allroada wszystko świetnie zadziałało, poradził sobie w każdej sytuacji. Porównaj sobie ewolucję w działaniu: kzbin.info/www/bejne/eZDTq5J4fK2MmKs

[@juliodelpozo7533]

Hola. Test de mini countryman? Gracias.

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

Hello. We have only hybrid: kzbin.info/www/bejne/gHjKkpWwor1keaM

[@isaacwalker6646]

I’d rather spend my good 31 grand Canadian on a brand new Subaru crosstrek or xv outside North America. And you’ll get a better reselling value when you fancy another new car

[@isaacwalker6646]

Importantly, Subaru crosstrek will never upset manual transmission fan bois. It’s still offering a crispy 6speed manual! How fun to drive a manual wagon! Yeah, it’s sort of a lifted wagon.

[@АнуарбекИмбаев]

Субару приятно удивляет!

[@jovandjukic5923]

Is there any video of different types awd systems? How they work?

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

There are hundreds of awd systems. Here is one I made about Audi: QUATTRO GUIDE - all types 1980-2020: kzbin.info/www/bejne/f6W3nHiYlNWZZ6M And 1980-1987 rally types: kzbin.info/www/bejne/e5LZpoBoiM16aZI

[@zolin34]

я бы тут и на 9ке проехал без проблем )))

[@TbilisiRustaveli]

о, как раз тебя искал

[@mrregik]

Я видел как Нива с двух роликов не съехала, а он на девятке проедет.

[@zolin34]

@@mrregik ооо дарова, я думал тут из наших нет никто, нива с роликов не сьехала зато по болотам проедит где эти два гуся мажорных встанут

[@avangard_33]

Да, да, конечно же)))

[@AndreySanktPetersburg]

Точняк девятка рулит..

[@jajesamsigurno1002]

Always very nice videos, but please, start with diagonal tests. Rollers are mostly just for marketing.

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

There is diagonal roller test included 🙂

[@ranua9327]

why rollers are mostly for marketing?

[@MultiValerio80]

а ниче что водитель субару крутит руль а водитель ауди нет это все подстава

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

Why is a driver turning the steering wheel? kzbin.info/www/bejne/hWLQdqSvip5-etE

[@VitalichM01]

В Ауди просто водила,а в Субаре знающий водила. Субару победил.

[@yurii851]

@@4x4.tests.on.rollers 3.18 Subaru driver turns the steering wheel

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

@@yurii851 So is Audi, keeping the steering wheel slightly turned to the left. Two comments above you have a link with explanation why drivers must do that.

[@4elovek-007]

Субару по внешнему и внутреннему убранству унылое и скучное га...но!!!

[@DanFreedman7]

Xc70 please, p3 and new one

[@jovandjukic5923]

Yep Volvo is also good as Subi :)

[@avangard_33]

Субару вообще красава!

[@sergeyg436]

What about bmw 3/5gt? Have you tested them?

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

No, I didn't test any GT versions but there's quite a lot of Bmw tests on my channel 🙂 kzbin.info/aero/PL_d2bK7PR7yxDuLNaDhBkvtrpYSRVktFc

[@T.e.d.d.y.]

Bring the boxer diesel outback please!

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

You got it - A6 Allroad TDI vs Outback Boxer Diesel: kzbin.info/www/bejne/poC6pKhtg9N_nLM

[@justaninja1]

Better yet, create a PHEV Outback

[@ziggarot]

Sorry but the diesel boxer was garbage. It inherited the unreliability if a boxer and it underperformed as a diesel... not my opinion it’s just fact

[@jesperolsson4073]

@@ziggarot the reliability is junk but a chiptuning makes the diesel really fast, much faster than my Volvo d4 181hp..

[@bilgehananl9318]

Hi! Are diesel and gasoline Outback's awd systems are different? Looks that they behave a bit different... Btw, i am still waiting for the first generation diesel Captiva roller video :)

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

Hi, awd system is the same (ACT-4) but it may have a little different behaviour due to different engine torque curve. When it comes to Captiva - I still cannot find it...

[@bilgehananl9318]

@@4x4.tests.on.rollers Now clear :) One day i can come to Poland and let's test mine together 😊

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

@@bilgehananl9318 That would be great :)

[@34mrt89]

Subaru Legend 💙

[@cop2506]

Everyone talking about how Quattro is better. Well, let's face it. It doesn't matter what you drive. If you equipped your car with both "AWD" and summer tyres, and you're driving in winter/rain/snow/ice, you're not going to get better results than a car with any other drive train. All drive trains will perform well in many weather condition, if you equip them with the best tyres for the condition you put it through. Period. Your tyres do impact your vehicle's driving performance in the real world. Doesn't matter what you drive if your tyres, the things giving you traction, aren't up to task. When your car is on rollers, it won't help or change anything. Rollers are 100% loss of traction. This is to simulate the moment in time where you only have 1 wheel giving you traction.

[@brandonwright6578]

Subby doobie doobie dooooo lol 😂 👈🏾👈🏾

[@RealAutoReviews]

Absolutely fantastic videos, mate! Your channel is a goldmine for people who are looking to buy the best AWD vehicle! Also, I want a few of these rollers as well. Could you tell me where can I get these from and for how much? 😃

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

Thank you! Rollers are custom made 🙂

[@RealAutoReviews]

@@4x4.tests.on.rollers thought so! I particularly liked the one on that toy car (Ford Ranger). Are those the same ones you use on the full size vehicles as well? 😃

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

@@RealAutoReviews That was very serious test 😉 And yes, these were the same rollers.

[@RealAutoReviews]

@@4x4.tests.on.rollers haha, I loved that one too! In fact, I shared it with a dear friend who works at Ford, and he liked it too! 😃 Would be great if you can share a few pointers (the do's and don'ts) for getting similar rollers made. 😃

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

@@RealAutoReviews Real Ranger was also tested 🙂 When it comes to rollers, there's one don't - don't make them too weak cause they will fall into pieces...

[@willdembik688]

So in short, save 50k and buy an older Subaru outback and itll perform as well if not better then a new 70k a6 allroad. No brainer...

[@dangerzone6408]

Not with a CVT

[@PeterBee911]

There's more to it than that.

[@Vlican]

That also means you're driving a Subaru, not an Audi lol

[@montystevens1949]

Better yet go and drive them out on the road at highway speeds in the harsh elements, then make your decision. It's hilarious how outback owners watch these "roller" test videos then take to the streets and think it will be the same if not better results. My Q7 Tdi with the adaptive air suspension has NEVER let me down when they try to stay with me.

[@coyotetales33]

Such a retarded comment...

[@MegaLatexxx]

Big difference in price, too. You can't compare a 10k car with a 20k car, not really. For being half the price of audis I think subarus are a great option for a family car.

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

We compare only awd systems, nothing more.

[@MegaLatexxx]

@@4x4.tests.on.rollers even if the awd system would be somewhat lower performance on the subaru than the audi I would still judge it worthy based on price alone for the whole package. That outback is basically an A6 allroad without all the "luxury", in my opinion anyway. Japanese reliability is also better than european cars for gasoline engines. My only beef with subaru is engine power and displacements available in their line up. Anyway, nice comparison

[@MegaLatexxx]

@D F I said if. Even IF it would be a bit lower id still get it over the audi, calm yourself.

[@123fourfive5]

The Subaru did better than the Audi while being 5 years older. That's incredible. Its interesting how it can use an imitation diff lock when only one front wheel has traction while it doesnt with a rear wheel

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

It does that with rear wheels to but there must be appropriate set up to make it work hard.

[@123fourfive5]

@@4x4.tests.on.rollers Is it possible for you to rig another camera aimed at the speedo to see the revs and whether or not it's the computer making it move or whether it's just pure power? Maybe even an Obd2 plug connected to a laptop to show the revs?

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

@@123fourfive5 I did it a few times (ASX, Jimny, Renegade) but that makes the test much more complicated...

[@123fourfive5]

@@4x4.tests.on.rollers In what aspect? Is it not as simple as adding another layer to the existing footage?

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

@@123fourfive5 The problem is in recording. One more camera between the dashboard and steering wheel. Camera must be mounted somehow, it cannot move. And the driver must see speedo and rev, so that's another complication.

[@denisdanielmuresan4316]

Why the driver from subaru must steer if it has sAWD and audi doesn t have simetrical AWD

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

Both drivers must slightly turn the steering wheel to keep the car on rollers.

[@denisdanielmuresan4316]

@@4x4.tests.on.rollers yeah but subaru steers more brutal.

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

@@denisdanielmuresan4316 In area where Audi was tested there was a little lean to the right so in fact driver only had to keep the steering wheel turned slightly to the left, without moving.

[@KCKNV]

@@4x4.tests.on.rollers Turning the steering wheel influences the control behavior of the ESP/EDS and so on. Sometimes this is good, sometimes not. :-)

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

@@KCKNV Not here. Steering angle is insignificant, car is barely moving, no lateral forces. Furthermore, offroad modes algorithms usually do not calculate steering angle at all.

[@kaloryfior7448]

Is there e53 x5 lci vs anything tested by any chance ? Or just x3

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

So far only old X3: kzbin.info/www/bejne/mKfZdoiVmr2Biqc

[@mariuszgwi1948]

Chętnie przetestuję Pajero z 2019 vs Land Rover Discovery v z 2022 :).

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

Jeśli masz te auta, to zapraszam na test 👍

[@mariuszgwi1948]

@@4x4.tests.on.rollers 💓. Aż jestem ciekawy jakby reagowały 😁

[@mariuszgwi1948]

Daleko od Zawiercia z tymi roleczkami byś miał? 😁

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

@@mariuszgwi1948 Dokładnie tyle, ile Ty do Rzeszowa 😉 Bywamy dosyć często w Krakowie, ale nie o tej porze roku...

[@mariuszgwi1948]

@@4x4.tests.on.rollers to czekam na informacje jak bliżej Krakowa będziecie :D. Na insta dodałem wiadomość jak coś. To w kontakcie

[@2S1L3NT]

Subaru driver sure was throttle happy compared to the Audi driver.

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

Throttle is regulated and cut by the system. Subaru naturally needs more - that's a 2.5 petrol (235 Nm at 4000 rpm) while Audi is 3.0 turbo diesel (500 Nm at 1750 rpm). Here's the same Audi vs Outback 2.0 turbo diesel: kzbin.info/www/bejne/poC6pKhtg9N_nLM

[@mustafatunc7188]

Which quattro ? Torsen, Haldex, Ultra?

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

Torsen.

[@tomekdetlaf6963]

Następny proszę golf r kombi vs golf alltrack

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

Jeśli masz takie samochody, to zapraszam na test :)

[@tomekdetlaf6963]

@@4x4.tests.on.rollers właśnie chciałem kupić

[@andrewjexel7187]

Subaru's front wheels are fully covered with brake dust. So these are the guys that use to go 160+ km/h on Polish 120km/h roads ;)

[@panbaagan6495]

In poland You can drive 150km/h

[@andrewjexel7187]

@@panbaagan6495 on A1, A2 etc - yes. But not on S7, for example.

[@ranua9327]

Hello from Spain. Here cars which can easilly go over 120km/h are sold everyday BUT legally you are not allow to go over 120km/h in any circunstance in any kind of road. Even more, socialist goverment a few years ago reduce this limit to 110km/h.

[@Ahto42]

T31 x-trail Diesel please :D

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

Hi Ahto Andron! I wish but I still can't find it... 😐

[@Ahto42]

@@4x4.tests.on.rollers It amazes me that nobody from a local forum/club would not volunteer. You have to make a roadtrip to baltic. Make a meeting and anyone, who wants to test can do it.

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

@@Ahto42 What exactly do you mean by baltic? Sometimes we travel with rollers :)

[@Ahto42]

@@4x4.tests.on.rollers Baltic countryes, Like Lithueina, Latvia, Estonia.

[@johnchau2809]

Why not test X-mode in all situations?

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

We did it here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/poC6pKhtg9N_nLM

[@johnchau2809]

@@4x4.tests.on.rollers Thanks a lot!

[@clodoaldobarros7294]

so witch one is better?

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

Both are very good.

[@mrregik]

Subaru deal with it a little faster

[@TpojkaVEVO]

Until 2:36, it looks to me that ground difference makes more adhesion under Subaru's tires.

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

Rather less.

[@TpojkaVEVO]

@@4x4.tests.on.rollers Really? Those cracks between ground blocks looked deeper/bigger to me. I thought that would make more friction because of. Also, thanks for great channel.

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

@@TpojkaVEVO Deeper/bigger cracks - more dust and dirt. But as long as tires on pavement do not slip, it doesn't influence the test. Thank you!

[@tsankotsankov2300]

rims too large for these stands,the tire rests outside the rollers

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

Nope, rollers are much wider.

[@augelson1478]

Ładne to Audi. Jest to quattro ultra?

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

Nie, standardowy torsen C. Quattro Ultra w tym modelu występuje tylko przy silniku 55 TFSI.

[@augelson1478]

@@4x4.tests.on.rollers aha, czyli przy najsłabszej benzynie?

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

@@augelson1478 A6 Allroad dostępne jest tylko z jednym silnikiem benzynowym. 55 TFSI, czyli 3.0, 340 koni.

[@augelson1478]

@@4x4.tests.on.rollers no czyli nie aż taki słaby. 😬

[@cygmen7636]

A czym się różni Torsen ultra od standardowego

[@longnaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaame]

If u send me rollers, I volunteer to test either BMW 330i with RWD and Torsen Diff or Audi RS4 B8 with crown gear Diff and Sport Diff in the back

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

Unfortunately I can't do that... What production year of RS4, are you sure it has crown gear diff?

[@longnaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaame]

@@4x4.tests.on.rollers 2015 and yes 99% sure. My father is a VAG manager and is supposed to know, but u never know

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

@@longnaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaame I will go for that 1% and say that it doesn't have crown gear differential but torsen CSM. Ask your father for detailed specs 🙂

[@longnaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaame]

@@4x4.tests.on.rollers I actually responded but it got deleted as I posted sources. So yes, it does have a crown gear differential.

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

@@longnaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaame There was no notification about your response 😐 I just wanted to add you to the white list and I accidentally deleted one of your comments, sorry. Anyway, you can put links now, can you write the source concerning crown gear diff?

[@Pavel054]

SUBIE - good job!

[@ЄвгенГарячковський]

Субарик лучше.

[@didineconejo]

Subie all the wayy

[@МаксимСергеев-з8р]

Subaru rules!

[@de1579]

Outback top👆

[@jovandjukic5923]

Bring here Subary 2020 :) subary wins :)

[@normt5463]

I'd say the Audi did better on the most challeging set. The Audi has more torque and power and probably is more efficent... Audi wins!

[@The_World_Of_Wonders]

@@normt5463 The Quattro reacts so slow and at the cross tests cannot even pass it, while the AWD is instant, I can't even imagine how Audi wins

[@marcingruba7391]

@@The_World_Of_Wonders it makes no difference that it started slower than Subaru, on the road it doesn't matter.

[@normt5463]

@@The_World_Of_Wonders it is 40:60 rear bias for the Audi.

[@martinr8278]

Yosif Starkov you said it. I don’t own either, I actually have a older model Forester. Audi did OK, but it was very clear the outback accomplish the task faster, and when you’re in snow or ice you need your vehicle to react smoothly and quickly. Audi/Subaru fans Drive what you like, nobody is going to convince otherwise, regardless of tests

[@karaffens]

Do you have big problems with rollers in traffic where you live? In sweden its rare. I have had two Audi Quattro cars with torsen and in the snow or ice it was never a problem. Even up hill with ice and rain on top and the car started to slide sideways from standing still, just put in 1st gear and drive, with out traction control. But Audi is still a street car, not built high for driving of road. I really liked my Audi Quattros.

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

I think you are not entirely getting what is roller test about. Actually this test confirms what you said.

[@karaffens]

@@4x4.tests.on.rollers its a syntetic and stupit test that only prove that Subaru is better than Audi if you are stuck on rollers.

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

@@karaffens Yeap, you are definitely not getting it. And I really have no idea how did you made your conclusion. Maybe this will help: kzbin.info/www/bejne/b2OZmmOwptmYjqc

[@karaffens]

@@4x4.tests.on.rollers Im getting it, its a non scientific test, they dont even use the same rollers, different location, different driver? It only means that sometimes Subaru is better for driving of rollers than Audi, nothing else. You often have rollers in the street? 😂 That test is totaly useless, its so poorly done.

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

@@karaffens Of course this is not scientific test, nobody claim it is. It's basic test for awd systems. Rollers - the same, just repainted. Conditions for both cars are the same (pavement & rollers), so how does location influence the result? Drivers - owners of the cars, they know their cars better than any other driver. Furthermore, they are always doing a few attempts to get the best out of the car. Rollers in the street? Nope. In previous comment I linked you a video about tests on rollers vs REAL WORLD situations.

[@tobhawk]

Nice video again! Would like to see performance of xdrive.

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

There is a few tests of xDrive on my channel, check them out 🙂 kzbin.info/aero/PL_d2bK7PR7yxDuLNaDhBkvtrpYSRVktFc

[@gheorgheirinelgulai8581]

Subaru has a better response.

[@normt5463]

Not at the end test where it counts. Plus the Subaru X-mode shifts off at about 18 mph.

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

@@normt5463 Last test counts the same as the last but one. FWD biased Subaru had to fight in last one, RWD biased Audi had to fight in the last but one. When it comes to X-mode - it must disengage ~18 mph, it would be dangerous over that speed.

[@urmattynyshpaev]

AUDI A6 ALLROAD - THE BEST

[@임채홍-d4t]

good

[@PrivacyEnt]

is this generation outback, the best 4x4 from subaru? maybe its drawback is the cvt?

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

This is version with CVT, so it has ACT-4 awd system.

[@jovandjukic5923]

@@4x4.tests.on.rollers is there more version of subi awd? What about from 2015. and up?

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

@@jovandjukic5923 Yes, there is a lot of versions of S-AWD. VCD, ACT-4 (ATS), VTD, DCCD and a few older solutions. Long story from 1972.

[@jovandjukic5923]

@@4x4.tests.on.rollers what is the best version, what do you think? And what version is on the models from 2015. to 2017.? Outback and Forester?

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

@@jovandjukic5923 Type of awd system depends on transmission. CVT has ACT-4. AT has VTD. MT has VCD. I would choose VTD.

[@edvardasleoarskas7934]

Nice test lol no one notices that audi steering wheel is kept straight all the time and subaru driver at each test is turning it... either do it the same or dont do it at all

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

Hundreds of people noticed that. They also noticed that Audi driver is keeping the steering wheel turned slightly to the left. Those people know why drivers have to do this. For those who doesn't - answer can be found in one of my FAQ videos. Find it and then comment or don't comment at all.

[@jaysmith8753]

Also the Subaru holds the brake, Audi shifts to neutral then back to drive this makes the clutch’s release in the Audi’s differential.

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

@@jaysmith8753 There is no clutch in the differential.

[@saif890000000]

The weakness with Outback lone rear wheel with grip is because the AWD systems in the Outback not as the same with other SUVs from Subaru ( Forester , XV ) they have center diff-lock that split the torque equally 50/50 while the Outback doesn’t, it performes more like FWD , its AWD system split the torque 60/40 even though it did great 👍🏼.

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

No, that's not correct. Outback, Forester or XV with CVT have the same awd system - ACT-4. It is FWD biased, Subaru claims that it is 60/40 but in fact it is active from ~90/10 to 50/50. And actually this system is able to lock itself. The same cars but with manual transmissions have VCD with 50/50 torque split but they cannot lock completely.

[@saif890000000]

4x4 tests on rollers - duszaniespokojna channel the videos in your channel shows the big deference between the Forester and the Outback

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

@@saif890000000 They may have different software.

[@jonny_037]

Audi - Subaru: 0 - 1

[@Dasdembo]

So that's means that both cars will get stuck if you drive them off road!

[@wlylo6318]

Well, the same subaru video is used here as in test vs. Volvo v60. What about this one kzbin.info/www/bejne/npPUmqJmoZWcpNU subaru awd not so bad in last test. Many factors should be taken into account: driver, weather, tyres and rolling stuff. In order to properly compare awd and have representative results at least the same place and stuff should be used.

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

Subaru in this video is petrol, other one is diesel and it was added to A6 Allroad test here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/poC6pKhtg9N_nLM Tyres - as long as there is grip - they do not influence the test. Weather - warm and dry, so no influence. Rollers - the same. Place - always flat.

[@wlylo6318]

You’re probably kidding. What’s the reason to test AWD of diesel and petrol cars if it affects the test and it’s known in advance? Same flat surface, was it measured and how? Tyres and whether do not affect the grip? In which universe? Ok anyway if we ignore it. What about rollers, they are not the same, blue and red (yes it can be the same model, but the state and degree of wear are different). Thus not representative.

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

@@wlylo6318 I don't remember any cars where petrol and diesel versions behave different. In case of Outback the final result is exactly the same, it just needed two buttons to be pushed. This was rather CVT matter, not awd system (standard CVT vs high torque CVT). Surface - spirit level. And I didn't say that tyres and whether do not affect the grip, read my previous comment again. Rollers are the same - they have been repainted (plus shape of frame sidewall was slightly changed, no affect for test difficulty).

[@MrCosmin94]

@@wlylo6318 dont watch those videos because you have no idea what you talk about.

[@wlylo6318]

@@MrCosmin94 i forgot to ask you, mr. Smartass

[@littlebuch]

Is that Quattro Ultra?

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

Nope, torsen C.

[@littlebuch]

@@4x4.tests.on.rollers Just googled it and it's because it's not a dual clutch. The dual clutch variants use a mechanical "Crown Wheel" center differential

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

@@littlebuch You mean crown gear center differential. It isn't in use any more.

[@zepter00]

TehHitmarker don’t teach „ master” about subject. 😉

[@janczerwinski7769]

To juz nie jest allroad....

[@bartoszsowinski5977]

Czemu ?

[@konstantins7647]

A6 Allroad

[@Belzebub440]

Ale fanboye audi nie mogą tego przeżyć XD

[@seb_wrx06]

No nie mogą i do tego jeszcze mieli tutaj silnik 3 l w dieslu jaka różnica niutonometrów

[@ТакеФамилия-г8ъ]

Суба топ

[@юрийборбелюк]

Ауди сила есть была и будет)

[@rightrocker8914]

Quattro и 4motion 💪

[@giro1zm]

To Audi wygląda jak upośledzone z oponami o tak niskim profilu. Trochę jak Grażyna w balerinach na Kasprowym.

[@automoto95]

Tak jest zdałnione i dziwie się jak można kupować takie auta i dziwęk jak traktor a benzynowe pierdzą jakby ktoś jechał wiejskim sprzętem na ulicach co drugie auto to audi do cegły są podobne toporność kloca a wnętrza jak z poleza nie mam pojęcia jak to może się komuś podobać.

[@tripple_xauto3447]

Obviously the outback dominates this challenge..best all wheel drive ever designed.

[@gagd7351]

As a subie fan, I wouldn't go that hard on this opinion. Although, the S-AWD is for sure, excellent (I use it daily). But it use to be incredible back in the days, when concurrent cars couldn't compete, but nowadays, there are tons of good AWDs, with different strengths and weaknesses.

[@seniortopolon3305]

*у ваговодов 5я точка в пожаре*

[@SteinarPladsen]

You need to put more throttle on the Audi! Actually the same as here was done with the Subaru. This test is not done the equal way - and then you'll get different outputs.

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

Throttle response is regulated by computer. You can hear quite high rev of the Audi engine, there was a lot of torque.

[@SteinarPladsen]

@@4x4.tests.on.rollers No, the Subaru was throttled much quicker, easy to hear. Audi waited much longer to encrease the rew's. That is also why it came faster out of it.

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

@@SteinarPladsen Another Outback but diesel - throttled very gently: kzbin.info/www/bejne/poC6pKhtg9N_nLM

[@US_John]

4 milion rible difference.

[@Sam-lc1lo]

Subaru is good!!!

[@smzone45]

Japanese tech 😎

[@simba3415]

Bin der Meinung man hätte beim Audi mal das Esp deaktivieren müssen. Dann wäre er besser gegangen.

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

I think it's automatically off in offroad mode.

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

@991 WEC The only thing that ESP can do here is limiting the engine power but we can hear that in offroad mode the engine rev is not cut excessively so it can create a lot of torque. The rest is up to EDL.

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

@991 WEC That's exactly what you need in this test - brakes must work to help the traction. Middle diff can't be locked, it's torsen, so again - brakes must work. Do you have 2020 A6 C8 Allroad?

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

@991 WEC I'm sure the control software of Audi Drive Select system is modified in relation to older versions.

[@seb_wrx06]

Beim Audi wurde mit einem Knopf Offroad Mode eingeschaltet und beim Outback Xmod die beide sollen das gleiche machen und in gewissen Maßen er ist B ausschalten und das machen die auch wenn man schon vergleichen soll dann soll man das vergleichen und die Leute einfach zu Verfügung haben ohne dass man Sicherungen ziehen muss

[@den-en...80]

Суба✊✊

[@plexiglasscorn]

None of the roller test are valid with traction control on. First thing you so when you get stuck is turn off traction control.

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

If traction control was entirely off (not possible to do in majority of modern cars) the car would fail almost all of the tests.

[@plexiglasscorn]

4x4 tests on rollers - duszaniespokojna channel It would not, that is how I get unstuck from my driveway when it ices over. If i turn on esp, wheels just roll ad infinitum. And thats is what at least Audi manual says, If you ge stuck turn esp off. The icon also has a picture of a car under slippery road. Thats what the button is for. Just if you get stuck.

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

@@plexiglasscorn Previously you wrote about traction control. Now about esp. These are two completely different systems.

[@plexiglasscorn]

4x4 tests on rollers - duszaniespokojna channel how do they differ? It’s one button, does it have a multi purpose? Like, if you press it twice really fast it acts like a double click on a mouse?

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

@@plexiglasscorn ESP is responsible for stability - it intervenes when understeer or oversteer appears. Traction control is responsible for forward movement when you start the car or drive in a straight line and traction is lost. The problem is (usually) that ESP cuts the engine power (rpm) when wheels are slipping during start. If you turn esp off - you can reach higher rpm and use more power but traction control still will be braking slipping wheels to equalize to speed of all wheels. In majority of modern cars TC is always active, there is no way to turn it off.

[@cop2506]

Aud8 sounds like a truck.

[@SzymkowiAK47]

It's typical TDI engine In my opinion: it sounds like wet fart

[@Alex-Lybimchik]

Аudi на бездорожье показывает более лучшие результаты чем на этом искуственно созданном методе!!Доказано в России!!!

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

Audi showed very good results in this test.

[@СашаИванов-ж6н]

😅

[@vsemprivet9141]

Subaru уверенно лидирует !

[@АндрейЛесин-р3н]

Субару лучше !

[@KCKNV]

Perfect software setup (road and offroad) by Audi, with a good "quietness". I have test a A6 allroad offroad - perfect handling! No quetions anymore! :-) The Subaru reacts too fast on the front axle for offroading. You get an problem, if you stay on a lane of lateral inclination. Then you drift sideways.

[@c4n15lupu5]

🤣🤣

[@haroldbeauchamp3770]

You are correct. The main problem to me is Subaru reliability. The CVT transmission is garbage and the engines are prone to oil consumption. Subaru fanatics like to claim their cars are the best when it comes to all wheel drive, but they fail to realize that until Subaru addresses the poor CVT and it’s abysmal reliability, it will never be a contender.

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

@Kick Nave Subaru seems to react more like a car with diff lockers. How do you think, are lockers good or bad for offroad...?

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

@@haroldbeauchamp3770 Subaru fanatics like to claim that S-AWD is the best when it comes to all wheel drive. Audi fanatics like to claim that Quattro is the best when it comes to all wheel drive. Bmw fanatics like to claim that xDrive is the best when it comes to all wheel drive. Mercedes fanatics like to claim that 4Matic is the best when it comes to all wheel drive. Volkswagen fanatics like to claim that 4Motion is the best when it comes to all wheel drive. Etc., etc.

[@KCKNV]

@@4x4.tests.on.rollers Audi locks also. The difference is which way they do it. You can see it on your video, the reaction of the subaru front axle locking system is too hard.

[@automoto95]

Ten traktor audi to w ogóle ledwo wjeżdża na te rolki

[@mikaso20042000]

why they make those subaru cars so ugly???obviously good car but look's like horse shit.

[@serg0072]

Ауди топ!!!

[@robertmorris6289]

So different system, but the result is same

[@jovandjukic5923]

Not same, its close... subi is faster, auti has lot of spining

[@fringelunatic]

Audi all the way. Can't take a chance on bad head gaskets. Its not if, but when. Even if that's not the case it's like playing Russian roulette. Subaru needs to redesign that engine. C'mon how many decades now still not fixed. My friends 18' blew 2 gaskets. Both done by the dealer.

[@michaeldominguez9553]

But don't audi leak oil? And have some electrical problems? I haven't seen any of those on any subies I've had, and neither the blown head gaskets. All turbo 2.5 and reached over 150k miles with basic maintenance

[@jsovey]

Audi AWD seems better than VW

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

Depends which systems you consider.

[@lolamandola9957]

Ауди говно это всем известно

[@jeffh643]

I still like the Audi better

[@garyzhang5099]

Subaru? No; Audi yes!

[@kevindiener6391]

Actually Subaru did a better job in this video...

[@jfcn474]

Audi is a piece of junk, compared to Subaru, it is garbage, German junk. Out of my personal experience with shitty Audi.

[@DanielDaniel1]

Wow the subie blew the audi out of the water. Inb4 the idiots that say "they both performed well"

[@user-wo9uz5lx5g]

Как можно помойку сравнивать с Ауди

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

This is Quattro vs S-AWD, not Audi vs Subaru.

[@9volker]

Хахаха кватро слила полностью

[@ВікторДіденко-у6б]

Тут торсен

[@planettv6094]

😍👍Audi