SLIP TEST - Jeep Compass Active Drive vs 2018 Dacia Duster 4WD -

[@ninooooo2128]

I’m from the U.K. and I own a 2018 Compass. I have a lot of land so I needed a vehicle that I could take off road and rely on, and as I have had Jeeps in the past I chose the Compass over the competitors. And I am really impressed by how good this car is off road! My old car was a Suzuki vitara all grip 4x4 and it was constantly getting stuck. The Jeep however makes it look easy! So glad I bought it and I can’t wait to drive it in the snow this winter.

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

Ninooooo That's interesting. In roller tests both cars get great and very similar results. Did you use the same tires? Can you share some experience concernig usage of All Grip? By the way - here is full test of Compass - kzbin.info/www/bejne/mmnagYeGbs9lr5I

[@ninooooo2128]

duszaniespokojna both cars were just using stock tires. The thing the Suzuki struggled with the most was wet grass which the jeep seems to be able to handle a lot better. The all grip was pretty impressive though and I did get chance to drive it in the snow and it did well. What may be helping the jeep is the engine. My jeep has a 2.0 diesel whilst the Suzuki had a 1.4 Petrol.

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

@@ninooooo2128 Stock tires doesn't mean they behave the same on both cars, so it is hard to make a conclusion about awd systems. I don't think that Suzuki with such an offroad history couldn't make a system which is not able to win with wet grass ;)

[@riyanshahid273]

duszaniespokojna in India Suzuki isn’t good at all in off-roading it is just a cheap substitute

[@bandvitromaniaios1307]

Riyan shahid like Duster?

[@nikolayrayanov2895]

I'm impressed by the Jeep. Great software on top of the mechanical system.

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

Actually Compass has 100% electronically controlled awd system 🙂

[@nikolayrayanov2895]

@@4x4.tests.on.rollers what does it have differential or clutch?

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

@@nikolayrayanov2895 Two clutches. First one is a dog clutch in PTU and second one is multiplate, connected to the rear differential.

[@nikolayrayanov2895]

@@4x4.tests.on.rollers thanks, that's the mechanical system I referred to.

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

@@nikolayrayanov2895 If you consider it that way then every system is mechanical 😉 Anyway, that systems comes from GKN Driveline.

[@Alexdj44]

Спасибо.Занимательное видео.Не останавливайся. Давай на ролики Sangyong Rexton new!

[@myslecinaczej8674]

Both cars worked well in the best settings for each. Now big question is why do we need so many modes on the Jeep if two basic modes on the Dacia do the same job? Practical difference between snow or mud will be marginal. The modes selector seems to be only marketing gimmick. The same comment applies to other manufacturers e.g. V W.

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

myslecinaczej Hard question because of two reasons. First - this is static test, it says nothing about dynamic behavior (modes change not only operation of traction control, but also ESP, throttle, accelerator, gearbox, power steering, awd system itself etc.) Second - both cars worked well, but wheel spin was different. Interesting thing is that in Renegade/Compass (Active Drive) there are AUTO-SNOW-SAND-MUD modes, but in Cherokee (Active Drive I) there is SAND/MUD together as one mode. In Suzuki (All Grip Select) there is SNOW/MUD together as one mode.

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

@Razvan J Then why in Suzuki (All Grip Select) there is SNOW/MUD as one mode?

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

@Razvan J I think they mean "slush" (SNOW/MUD - "4WD is set in this mode basically and ensures higher stability against slippery road surface improving traction at low µ road"). For mud they recommend LOCK mode.

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

@Razvan J That is written in service manual (for dealers), not in user manual.

[@godgirlsguitars]

Yes I would leave it in snow mode as you still have stability control, I would only use mud mode if the vehicle is really stuck in snow as it turns the traction control off.

[@kaan898]

mud mode works fine in the compass...

[@Ktheodoss]

Both did well. Jeep looks nicer.

[@Slazlo-Brovnik]

so if you need serious off-road capabilities you are basically better of with the Dacia in most situations ... and it probably costs half of the Jeep.

[@Celik9313]

Jeep Compass trailhawk when?

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

All up to volunteers.

[@jovandjukic5923]

Compas is impressive.

[@Liris777]

I don't know exactly is it better to have selectors like on jeep or better to have auto mode like on duster... But every one saw that jeep has stopped his wheels (traction control) to transfer all torque to wheel on the ground. I mean it is not bad from the start, but it is catastrophic for slippery road driving on.

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

Liris 1 Jeep also has Auto mode. And I think the system knows if it is moving forward or not: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hIileaiGebeUprM

[@Dacia4x4]

Diferences between mode snow, mode sand (and mud) with Compass or Renegade ?

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

You can find it here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hmicnWl_brN2oqc

[@gienol]

I have impression that renegade performed better. Same active drive system but seems programmed different.

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

Yes, both cars share the same awd system from GKN Driveline. I have no idea why are they tuned differently...

[@FajnyAleZaNiski]

+1, bo ciekawy pomysł z tymi rolkami, chociaż Ducia Duster w praktyce zazwyczaj nie zalicza testów off-roadowych, a Jeepy zaliczają bez problemów. Jak Jeep czegoś nie zaliczy to raczej mało który samochód zaliczy. Z tymi rolkami chyba coś nie tak. Może zależy ile dasz gazu, albo średnica koła albo rodzaj opony. Coś jest nie tak w tych testach.

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

Średnica koła i rodzaj opony nie mają żadnego znaczenia (chyba, że koło zaczęłoby się ślizgać). Ile dasz gazu - to jak najbardziej, ale tu wkracza elektronika i sama to reguluje. Jeśli są problemy, to robimy kilka podejść z różnym poziomem gazu, niektóre systemy reagują od razu, inne wymagają trochę rpm do zadziałania.

[@FajnyAleZaNiski]

No właśnie widziałem że przy Subaru XV i Suzuki dawałeś więcej gazu. Średnica koła ma znaczenie, bo to punkt styku, podobnie ilość powietrza w oponach i rodzaj gumy i bieżnika bo to daje poślizg. Mimo wszystko ciekawe podejście z tymi rolkami.

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

@@FajnyAleZaNiski Będę kontynuował dyskusję w drugim wątku: kzbin.info/www/bejne/mmnagYeGbs9lr5I

[@damianeggenschwiler3220]

el que es inteligente se compra un duster! al que le gusta mostrar marca a los demas se compra el jeep y gasta 20 o 30 mil mas! cada uno lo suyo!

[@robertocenini2644]

no podes comparar a una Duster con una jeep menos con una compass

[@camiloandresguevaracastro2152]

@@robertocenini2644 y porq no puede si la duster tiene más altura al piso más ángulos de ataque y salida más maletero y el n off Road envía mejor los datos la computadora para frenar la llanta q patina y darle más potencia ala otra

[@lup4634]

The more I look at those comparisons they all pretty much do the same in tests

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

Do they? 🙂 kzbin.info/www/bejne/j6exkpyOr8mnpK8

[@gienol]

Kurczę. Renagade radził sobie znacznie lepiej niż compass....

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

Układ napędowy dokładnie ten sam, sterowanie wygląda na inne...

[@subifox734]

Dacia 1.6 !!! . Provar el tce 1.2 125cv o dci 115cv !!!

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

subi fox It doesn't matter, there is not much torque needed during roller test.

[@toaderspanache8571]

We could clearly see who the winner was:duster. And on top of that, the full option duster is much much cheaper than jeep. For those who didnt know, the 4x4 mechanism and all that is related to in the duster is nissan made, so you basically buy a nissan-renault tech car made in romania for a cheaper price. Its a win win situation

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

Toader Spanache Almost correct. Only from mechanical point of view 4x4 system is the same as in Nissan (and it is not made by Nissan), but software which controls it is different.

[@toaderspanache8571]

@@4x4.tests.on.rollers how is it not made by nissan if its written all over the parts NISSAN?

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

@@toaderspanache8571 Nissan is not a producer of this awd system. In fact, Jeep also uses awd system made by the same producer. GKN Driveline.

[@toaderspanache8571]

@@4x4.tests.on.rollers , from the videos the duster seemed more reliable than the jeep. i dont own a jeep to see how it drives but i own the new duster and ive seen the markings on the most of the parts, many are nissan and renault marked. if they have the same 4wd then why did they behave different? is the jeep heavier?

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

@@toaderspanache8571 They don't have the same awd (although very similar). They have awd from the same producer. Software is individual, that is why it behaves different. GKN Driveline makes tens of different systems for many brands. The one from Duster may be found not only in Nissan or Renault, but in Mitsubishi, Mazda, Suzuki and many others.

[@noclu4u384]

Now put it up against a subaru

[@Ingwine]

how can you compare a jeep with this shit