SLIP TEST - Lexus RX-350 3.5 V6 F-Sport AWD vs Audi Q5 2.0 TDI Quattro -

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Lexus RX-350 3.5 V6 F-Sport AWD (2015)
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Audi Q5 2.0 TDI Quattro (2016)
#duszaniespokojna #lexusrx350 #audiq5

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

Over a year ago we tested Lexus RX-350. Recently we got accused of using SNOW mode in other tested cars, and not using ECT SNOW mode in Lexus. So Lexus got on rollers again, this time with ECT SNOW on.

[@jakubek89]

Dlaczego niektóre samochody wypadają tak źle na rolkach a na śniegu czy w błocie dobrze sobie radzą? Za małe tarcie mają rolki?

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

@@jakubek89 Na śniegu czy błocie wszystkie koła mają zbliżoną przyczepność. W takiej sytuacji poradzą sobie samochody, które na rolkach wypadają kiepsko. Schody zaczynają się w sytuacji, kiedy przyczepność poszczególnych kół bardzo się różni (np. jedna strona auta stoi na lodzie, a druga na asfalcie), wtedy sytuacja przypomina to, co symulują rolki.

[@jakubek89]

@@4x4.tests.on.rollers czyli dobry test systemu awd jest dać buta stojac jedna strona na poboczu na blocie/piachu a drugą na asfalcie? Jestem zielony w tym

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

Raczej na lodzie i asfalcie, jakieś nawierzchnie, które mocno się różnią, czasami nawet mokra trawa wystarczy. I nie buta, tylko raczej powoli zwiększać obroty.

[@reg15os]

I drove that rx for several years through toronto winters on all season tires. No problems

[@zhihangzhou7141]

do you get more snow than ohio?

[@RK1FX]

What about uphill, steep ones?

[@benbowman1876]

I own an RX 350 F-Sport & a TL-SH-AWD. I'll take the SH-AWD in the snow to have fun... Then I'll take it to the shop. I'll take the RX most other places to enjoy driving & open roads... And I won't have to take it to the shop.

[@OscyJack-]

Lexus AWD is fine. People just don't get you need brake bias if you're stuck in order to get power transfer. Same on all LSD/open diff equipped vehicles

[@rabbbbio]

LEXUS and TOYOTA ECT snow will decrease engine output.

[@edalgo]

should have turned off the AFS in Lexus, would have had another result.

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

Are you sure...?

[@guest2007]

thanks. 1:41 esp-off then lexus-rx-350 succeed. 'If the vehicle gets stuck in fresh snow or mud, the TRAC/VSC systems may reduce power from the engine to the wheels. You may need to turn the system off to enable you to rock the vehicle in order to free it.' in 'OM48B93U' in drivers.lexus.com/lexusdrivers/resources/owners-manuals?model=RX%20350%20&year=2011&type=om page 170 from google(lx-470 user manual) addition 11 dec 2018 2:39 pm est ---- 0:16 3-roller-test is not being shown

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

@gue st Here you have the same Lexus on 3 rollers: kzbin.info/www/bejne/gZ6vfnube5t7d6M

[@guest2007]

thanks.but i can not find awd-lock=on,esp=off in that video kzbin.info/www/bejne/gZ6vfnube5t7d6M like 1:41

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

@@guest2007 It doesn't matter, when three wheels are spinning, system is not cutting power like in diagonal test.

[@guest2007]

11 dec 2018 3:43 pm est--- thanks.so lexus-rx year 2015 fail 3-roller-test

[@matijazajec4600]

Red Suzuki Vitara on scene = Dusan in action 😀

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

Matija Zajec Well, Dusan is not my name, such name doesn't even exist in my language, but it sounds good :-D

[@matijazajec4600]

As toyota fan i am dissapointed. I hope the new rav 4 will be much better than existing. My research on internet: forums,videos etc.. make my decision to buy suzuki s-cross..

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

Matija Zajec If you want to have good awd system than Suzuki is great choice. If you don't care about it much then Toyota cars are also great.

[@krys8870]

Just avoid hybrid models and you will be happy with Toyota too.

[@agungwibawaAR15]

What about the life of the engine and transmission? Which one is more long life? Suzuki or Lexus?

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

@@agungwibawaAR15 Both are really reliable and long lasting.

[@Mr...anyquestionse]

Hello. Please,let's the test for ATESSA- ets. FX35 S50 or S51

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

Hi, so far the only Atessa is this one: kzbin.info/www/bejne/ppy5dp1-oLOZb5o

[@sebastianbrzostowski439]

Hej. A sprawdzaliście bez trybu SNOW? W SNOW, ESP jest chyba domyślnie i tak wyłączone (nie musi być o tym info na zegarach) lub podniesiony próg reakcji mega wysoko aby pozwolić (oczywiście przy "gazowaniu") specjalnie na buksowanie. Przecież Lex w ogóle nie reagował. Zachowanie typwe jak Grand Vitara czy Jimny z wyłączonym ESP. Dosłownie to samo :/

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

PSLove Sprawdzaliśmy przy poprzednim teście: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hJy7h2CGo9ipntU kzbin.info/www/bejne/gZ6vfnube5t7d6M W innych samochodach tryb SNOW obniża, a nie podnosi próg reakcji. Lex reagował - zwiększał i zmniejszał obroty.

[@sebastianbrzostowski439]

duszaniespokojna sorki przegapiłem tamte filmy :( No fakt....reakcja była tylko czemu brak blokowania kół jak w takim malutkim Suzuki :) Też wymyślili........ :/

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

PSLove Nie mam pojęcia o co w tym chodzi, wygląda jakby system próbował rozbujać auto.

[@sebastianbrzostowski439]

duszaniespokojna też tak pomyślałem po tych filmikach ale nie pisałem o tym oficjalnie bo wydawało mi się, że bez senu to sobie rozkminiłem :D :D :D :D :D

[@superteamvideo1930]

The snow mode on Lexus is for reducing torque from 0 on purpose.

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

We tried that cause one of viewers was pushing on that, you can find the discussion under this video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hJy7h2CGo9ipntU

[@v60polestar88]

Lexus/toyota may be reliable but good god does there AWD system suck. Might as well buy a FWD verison

[@ValentinoBentley]

I do not know how these people did their tests but in my 2012 is350 awd it handled very well this past winter. For a sports sedan I was very impressed with its ability to handle with just all season tires and with snow mode on.

[@AndyFarrell008]

I also have a 2013 RX350 AWD F Sport and live in a very wet area, with pot holed roads and a steep windy hill climb to the nearest freeway. The AWD has performed faultlessly. Never a slip. Feels very stable in poor conditions.

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

Here's another Lexus, much older RX300 but showing very similar behaviour of traction control: kzbin.info/www/bejne/mmHZd2V8htWAf5o

[@169494]

There's nothing wrong with the roller test. Toyota have weak AWD in their unibody cars is pretty well known. If you are talking about "actual roads", then, most FWD sedans don't have issues in winter ice and snow. I use to drive a FWD mini van in Alberta Canadian winter in all season tires and it survived fine... No offense tho, I like Toyota and Lexus, my family have a RX and Sienna, great cars, but their AWD all sucks. If my RX got stuck somewhere, there's no confidence its AWD will get me out without calling a tow truck... I also have a Toyota truck with part time 4wd, but that's totally another story on the drivetrains, I can fly that truck in snow covered mountains in AT tires.

[@MrPuciek]

Hej, czy w lexusie AWD działa nonstop w trekcie jazdy?

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

Zależy, w którym. W tym z testu system zapewne cały czas monitoruje warunki (nie wiem, w jakim stopniu), ale na pewno nie napędza stale dwóch osi.

[@MrPuciek]

@@4x4.tests.on.rollers Dzięki za odpowiedz! Chodzi mi o RX350 V6 z AWD, byłem ciekawy czy są dwa osie napędzane nonstop czy tylko kiedy potrzebuje i nic nie mogę znaleść na ten temat. (W subaru outback jest przód 80% tył 20% plus może wyslasc do 50% mocy, myślałem ze tutaj jest podobnie).

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

@@MrPuciek Zasada działania jest podobna, czyli napęd osi tylnej odprowadzony jest od osi przedniej, natomiast Lexus nie napędza stale tylnej osi. Można to wymusić trybem LOCK do określonej prędkości. Nie ma znaczenia, czy inicjalnie układ ma 100/0 czy 80/20, istotne jest, jak szybki i jak zaawansowany jest software sterujący. Tu bez wątpienia układ w Subaru jest skuteczniejszy.

[@Motorsportsgeek]

its just a lifted camry with an electric 4wd system, what did you expect

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

ltwargssf R Electric??

[@nigeldalziel7088]

It's on a highlander platform actually, since 2010.

[@Motorsportsgeek]

@@nigeldalziel7088 Toyota K platform.. Yes and the highlander is also a lifted Camry with a bigger body.

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

​@@MotorsportsgeekBut no electric 4wd in this case.

[@Motorsportsgeek]

@@4x4.tests.on.rollers toyota uses electronicly controlled clutches to activate the rear differential

[@Gtacarsgarage]

Lexus AWD is poor !

[@myslecinaczej8674]

Crappy AWD from Lexus. It is city driving vehicle.

[@car-mazing]

Stfu

[@jpch8814]

@@car-mazing Lexus us a premium vehicle with an AWD that is completely useless...enjoy your shit Toyota

[@swagger01377]

@@jpch8814 educate you self on how these awd systems work. U bum

[@jpch8814]

@@swagger01377 Well you certainly showed me with your impeccable argumentation 🤣. Lexus failed a basic AWD test, maybe educate yourself on how to form a proper argument you BUM.

[@swagger01377]

@@jpch8814 VW is ass🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣tiguan is a joke.

[@marekraczek1]

torsen vs haldex always tosen wins..shame for toyota for dont use torsen in his midle class premium cars like lexus...

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

Nope, torsen doesn't always win, especially if we compare it with newest haldex systems. Toyota isn't using haldex, they are using electromagnetic clutch-packs.

[@marekraczek1]

I think you can't have long experience car driving, talking like that. Torsen is much better. Haldex can overheating when in long driveway hill, electronics can flood, and many other accident. Only in one question haldex is better it is fuell economy.@@4x4.tests.on.rollers

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

@@marekraczek1 24 years of driving is more than enough. You are talking about maintanance things, not the driving. Well tuned haldex (for example in Volvo cars) is competitive to torsen, in many scenarios even better due to full lock ability. Many sport cars are using haldex, including super cars.

[@ms3173]

They are high end luxury cars

[@allaround200]

Lexus is not engineered to Audi standards

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

In such case Audi is not engineered to Infiniti standards... kzbin.info/www/bejne/nou8pZh6n6-Kjbc Both conclusions are false 🙂

[@nigeldalziel7088]

Lexus is engineered to be reliable, audi is designed to malfunction and cost a lot to fix.

[@jpch8814]

lol such an expensive vehicle that does not work on light snow or slippery surface...I hate Lexus/Toyota.

[@d1sturb3d119]

Pretty clear considering you keep spamming the same shit. You twats need to get a life

[@davidboatman925]

Hater

[@jacekplacek9776]

Obiecales hyundai tucson i co😑

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

Jacek Placek Problem w tym, że Tucsona mam pod ręką i ciężko się zorganizować... Najciemniej pod latarnią, ale przed zimą jakoś to ogarniemy ;)

[@jacekplacek9776]

@@4x4.tests.on.rollers ok dzieki

[@sergo9843]

Acura go.

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

Here it goes: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pKTQoWeEe6ihY80