SLIP TEST - Opel Mokka AWD / Buick Encore AWD vs Suzuki Vitara All Grip -

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

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[@Getting-Older]

never ceases to surprise me the differences between awd systems, Suzuki always seems to do very well.

[@jonatansteven4905]

suzuki sx4 do u recommend to buy? for example?

[@virajmuhendisi]

All Winner Vitara

[@SirGregory]

Vitara is impressive.

[@rafafafa8503]

Jestem pod wrażeniem tego napędu w Oplu, całkiem skuteczny system.

[@Amer87412]

Not too bad performance from Mokka. Maybe it would do better in diesel option and manual transsmision but anyway for a car which do not have any awd modes or offroad ambitions good enaugh. Thank you for review

[@zepter00]

Type of engine...diesel or petrol ...and type of transmission ( manula or automatic) has zero influence on results.

[@RustyHeartsTOV]

​​@@zepter00of course it can. Torque is the answer. You can see in this video that it just doesn't have enough torque for the rear axle to move the car. It just swings slightly. The diesel could have a better outcome.

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

​@@RustyHeartsTOVIt's not about engine torque but about the ability of the system to send it to appropriate wheel. Both cars here are 1.4 turbo petrol, both have way more torque than needed to pass this test.

[@RustyHeartsTOV]

​@@4x4.tests.on.rollers yeah I know. I mean when I have a system that can send for an example a fixed value of 30% of the available torque to the rear wheels. I would benefit with more available torque as a whole. Like 30% of 240 NM (Petrol) or 30% of 320 NM (Diesel). Or am I thinking wrong?

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

@@RustyHeartsTOV Your thinking would be correct only in situations when engine is generating its max torque, for example - all wheels have great grip and car is towing heavy trailer. But in this case, engine can generate only as much as grip allows, so its max torque capability doesn't matter.

[@Mietas2]

Nawet nie zauważyłem, że dorwałeś Mokkę do testu! Fajnie, choć w realnych warunkach, w tej części Anglii gdzie jestem to chyba nigdy mi się nie przyda 4x4 bo śniegu tu praktycznie nie widać, a w teren mokka się średnio nadaje bo ma progi i zderzak bardzo nisko (i tą dziwną rurkę pod podwoziem, widać ją z boku).

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

Warto dodać, iż śledztwo po teście wykazało, że Mokka nie ma haldexa

[@Mietas2]

@@4x4.tests.on.rollers Tak, czytałem wasze komentarze ;) Choć uważam, że nie ma to większego znaczenia w praktyce, bo na drodze/ w terenie przyczepność jest bardzo przypadkowa, a nie jak na rolkach: ON/OFF.

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

@@Mietas2 Zapraszam do oglądnięcia video "Tests on rollers vs real world situations" :) kzbin.info/www/bejne/b2OZmmOwptmYjqc

[@shapovalenkom]

Спасибо за MOKKA)))

[@sept756]

Не думал что она способна.

[@sept756]

Надо проверить на днях.

[@alexeykazakov1956]

@@sept756 имх на сузуке читерили, один старт не из стоячей машины был, последний рулем крутить начал. В раше нет 1.4 пп на автомате

[@sept756]

@@alexeykazakov1956 муфта поди такая же как у наших

[@alexeykazakov1956]

@@sept756 такая же беспонтовая, вернее сказать простая электрическая. Моменты у моторов разные. А момент решает многое. Я вобще думал, Мокка не сможет, удивлен результатом тестом.

[@chutac009]

Why didn't you lock the diff on the Vitara to compare?

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

I tested all modes in Vitara, you can find these tests on my channel.

[@Bernardsam64]

Because it's even not necessary as you can see ! But you are right, if the diff is locked, it is faster ;-)

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

@@Bernardsam64 Actually lock mode isn't a locker. But all systems work harder, so you are right - it would be faster.

[@tigratigra6815]

Bonjour,możesz także napisać, czy sprzęgło generuje błędy, czy przegrzewa się Vous pouvez également écrire si le couplage génère des erreurs ou une surchauffe You can also write whether the coupling throws errors or overheating

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

In Vitara - no such problems. In Mokka - I don't know.

[@MzwandileHarmans]

I love the mokka more

[@scott8919]

Interesting how there's a definite lag in the Suzuki's Auto mode where it has to think and *then* activate the rear wheels.

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

No, that's not correct. The lag you see is caused by torque converter of automatic gearbox. That means that every time the driver releases brake pedal (without pressing accelerator) front wheels are spinning.

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

Here's the explanation of fake delay: kzbin.info/www/bejne/poSWkKF-jct_mqM

[@jesusballarin252]

El allgrip del Vitara es mucho más efectivo

[@Martinez11033]

Dlaczego wyłączenie esp działa na korzyść w takich warunkach?

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

System nie dławi silnika.

[@rich2529]

why does he boot the mokka when you can see low revs work.....

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

Low revs works only with ESP off.

[@Mark1796]

Clever stuff but how does this replicate any sort of driving situation at all?

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

Lack of grip under some wheels is nothing unusual on ice, snow or when offroading.

[@Mark1796]

@@4x4.tests.on.rollers I appreciate what you do, I just find it a little removed from the real world.

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

@@Mark1796 If you drive only on flat, dry tarmac then you are right :)

[@normt5463]

@@Mark1796 yes? If it rains where you live and you have to turn the wheel and accelerate you can send weight to less than four wheels with traction.

[@andersriksson100]

I belive these tests says something vital when you need to pull up a trailer or a caravan up a ramp or a slope as I do and then need it to work out.

[@normt5463]

The Mokka(Buick Encore in USA) can release the rear drive axle for almost US40 mpg at 60 mph. It is very efficient for 1 4t on 87 octane gasolone.

[@ast5515]

The Suzuki is just as efficient without disconnecting anything. Yes, even the 1.4 turbo.

[@normt5463]

@@ast5515 though our 2013 Buick Encore has been gone off lease for years now, a member on Encore Facebook page has been getting US+50 mpg on a 1.4t SIDI. Truly impressive!

[@ast5515]

@@normt5463 Hypermiling is possible with any car. The Vitara will be more efficient in normal, real world driving.

[@normt5463]

@@ast5515 this is this guy's daily commute! Better than a RAV4 Hybrid!

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

@@normt5463 Mokka has haldex, so it disengages rear axle the same way as Vitara. If you compare fuel consumption of 1.4T versions than Suzuki needs less fuel. Vitara also accelerates better.