Slovenia's WORST-CASE Scenario at 2024 Worlds

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Chris Horner

Chris Horner

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@QuackingKing
@QuackingKing 12 сағат бұрын
As a Slovenian - Roglic is a super nice guy, incredibly lovable and might actually have more fans in Slovenia because of his personality and the constant injuries. But there’s no way in hell Pogacar is giving the road race away to anyone. He openly said at the beginning of the season that one of his main goals this year is the rainbow jersey. And he appears to have legs at least as good as they were in the Tour. And it’s funny, even in Slovenia no one has the slightest idea what the relationship between Roglic and Pogacar actually is. Honestly, if Pog doesn’t win it might actually be the biggest upset of the season. Awesome video as always Chris! ❤🦋
@tonyg3091
@tonyg3091 6 сағат бұрын
@@QuackingKing Pog will win. Unless he is ran over by the camera motorcycle, nobody stands a chance on a course that hard. Half the peloton will quit before the last quarter.
@gnomevoyeur
@gnomevoyeur 20 сағат бұрын
It's wild how much talent has come from such a tiny country. Even if Primoz goes rogue and doesn't work for Tadej, they still have guys like Tratnik and Mohoric to get the job done.
@markvonwisco7369
@markvonwisco7369 19 сағат бұрын
True! I wonder if Slovenia being so mountainous is a factor. Not a whole lot of flat roads there.
@ChrisHornerCycling
@ChrisHornerCycling 17 сағат бұрын
I would think Jan, Donen, Mazgec, and company are all used up earlier in the race and would then be watching on TV what happens. Either that or the other nations really raced badly. 📺🤔🦋👊
@Eirikkinserdal
@Eirikkinserdal 16 сағат бұрын
Tratnik will work for Roglic if anything 😅
@milhouse53
@milhouse53 16 сағат бұрын
@ChrisHornerCycling good thing is to "allow" Belgium and Netherlands and Australia and USA be in the race longer so they can help Ridge the front and cover attacks and chase the breaks Don't kill your entire Slovenian team for that. But..other teams aren't idiots and will want Slovenians to work more for that win they want
@tilu3303
@tilu3303 13 сағат бұрын
Or maybe there's something different "in the water".
@ValterBrani
@ValterBrani 17 сағат бұрын
Must be considered that there are only 7 WT level cyclist in Slovenia in 2024, so DS had to call one rider from CT level to complete the team of 8 for WC. In fact this is a privillege that all 7 from WT level will appear on WC. We, cycling fans from Slovenia are living the time of our lives right now.
@fiddleronthebike
@fiddleronthebike 10 сағат бұрын
according to the official start list of the UCI Slovenian team has 7 riders…?
@ValterBrani
@ValterBrani 9 сағат бұрын
@@fiddleronthebike On the official page of National cycling federation is listed also Jaka Primozic, so there should be eight of them. 7 WT + 1 CT. We'll see.
@fiddleronthebike
@fiddleronthebike 9 сағат бұрын
@@ValterBrani🤷🏼
@robbogin482
@robbogin482 21 сағат бұрын
Thank you Chris for all the 2024 breakdowns of all the races!! Been a great year🦋🦋👊👊🙌🙌
@ChrisHornerCycling
@ChrisHornerCycling 18 сағат бұрын
Thanks the comment Rob. 🦋👊🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋
@musclelessfitness2045
@musclelessfitness2045 17 сағат бұрын
Don't say it like it's the last video of the year. Chris still has to breakdown more races till December 31st 🤣 🦋
@robbogin482
@robbogin482 3 сағат бұрын
Oh I know he’s got all kinds of Butterfly Effects coming, but wanted to make sure I gave him some props for the season thus far✌️✌️
@janibajuk
@janibajuk 7 сағат бұрын
We as slovenians are in the most golden of times and will probably never get a situation like this ever again. To think that before Primož we didn't even have a top 10 gc rider and now we have two elite ones.
@ChrisHornerCycling
@ChrisHornerCycling 7 сағат бұрын
Yep. You guys are in a serious golden age. Enjoy. 👊🦋🇸🇮
@joespinder9093
@joespinder9093 20 сағат бұрын
Part of the attraction to bike racing is the chaos. There doesn't seem to be a way to know who will work for, or with who. What process goes into choosing the team? Will Primoz' Red Bull Bora teammates work for him? Tade, same thing? I wonder if there might be a story time coming to display the cray cray? I kinda love it. It's like watching the Sopranos. Wish I could insert the theme song here... 😂👊🦋 thanks Chris and Garrett!
@ChrisHornerCycling
@ChrisHornerCycling 17 сағат бұрын
I would bet trade team loyalties come first since no national loyalties needs to be broken. 🤔🦋🔥👊
@jeffholder1156
@jeffholder1156 21 сағат бұрын
Two highly competitive guys at the top of their game...and one has to lose. Won't be pretty.
@J-cz7yv
@J-cz7yv 20 сағат бұрын
Highly competitive sure. There is a major gap between the two riders though. Primoz could deliver a great Rafal Majka like pull the lap before Tadej launches. If you reversed the roles, Primoz is not dropping the likes of Remco and MVP. It’s cut and dry to me but like you said, they are both competitive champions. Hope Primoz can set aside his ego for the day.
@milhouse53
@milhouse53 18 сағат бұрын
There is a 99% chance that Slovenian coach talked to them both before making an announcement. What coach would just put Rog and Pog on the team without ironing out the strategy with them?? They are there to win, otherwise why ride 270km? This is not a publicity fair
@ChrisHornerCycling
@ChrisHornerCycling 18 сағат бұрын
Could get ugly. 😬🦋🔥🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋
@swisstopia
@swisstopia 17 сағат бұрын
Bottom line: The strongest of the two will be in position to challenge for the win. 🦋👊🇨🇭
@milhouse53
@milhouse53 16 сағат бұрын
@swisstopia yes! And the other one will work for him. Except they also need to have a plan BEFORE the race. And it is not that hard- they have the data on training and conditioning. They know who is better
@johnwalsh9285
@johnwalsh9285 20 сағат бұрын
Thank you Chris thank you Garrett for all your time and work on the show
@ChrisHornerCycling
@ChrisHornerCycling 17 сағат бұрын
👊🦋
@franklinricardomitacampos6696
@franklinricardomitacampos6696 17 сағат бұрын
Roglic worked for Wout Van Aert in many one day races (MSR, Amstel).
@bullten5416
@bullten5416 15 сағат бұрын
Yes in 2021. Thank you for the reminder. I totally forgot that.
@franklinricardomitacampos6696
@franklinricardomitacampos6696 6 сағат бұрын
@@bullten5416 Roglic raced the 2022 Milano- San Remo for Wout. Of course, his gregario duties are very scarce, for obvious reasons.
@lambertduong6490
@lambertduong6490 18 сағат бұрын
I remember reading after Pogacar won his first TdF, he had to keep his celebrations a bit more low key. There was a lot of support for Roglic in Slovenia at the time, and Pogacar got a lot of hate for "stealing" the 2020 TdF.
@milhouse53
@milhouse53 18 сағат бұрын
Stealing it was not. Roglic was 1 min ahead..not 3 or 5 That race could go to either rider, so Slovenian fans had no reason for hate. POG won 3 stages and was a force in 2020
@5Xum
@5Xum 17 сағат бұрын
The first interview his parents gave, the first thing they said was not how happy they are for their son but how bad they feel for roglic. 😂
@ChrisHornerCycling
@ChrisHornerCycling 17 сағат бұрын
That’s right. 🤔🦋👍
@Psysso
@Psysso 12 сағат бұрын
It was a shock to Slovenians, Roglic has or back then had more fanatical fans. Funnily enough similar stories already happened in Slovenia, namely in ski jumping where Prevc lost his season title by fellow jumper who beat him in the last jump of the season.
@justlucky13
@justlucky13 21 сағат бұрын
Thanks Chris and Garrett!!! gotta be real hard racing a teammate!!! Any word on Bradley Wiggens return to cycling?
@ChrisHornerCycling
@ChrisHornerCycling 18 сағат бұрын
Wiggins would remember that, very well. 😬🦋🇬🇧🇫🇷🔥😱🦋
@fernandovega5722
@fernandovega5722 21 сағат бұрын
Can't wait to watch the race.
@ChrisHornerCycling
@ChrisHornerCycling 18 сағат бұрын
👊🦋🔥
@ahrtrixmeister
@ahrtrixmeister 15 сағат бұрын
Matej Mohoric would surprise everyone and win by being in the breakaway
@markavrelij9062
@markavrelij9062 14 сағат бұрын
Pogi rode for Roglič in 2020 WC, for McNullty in 2021 (Itzulia Basque Country) and allowed his teammates (Hirchi, Yates,...) to win a few races/stages in last years.
@franklinricardomitacampos6696
@franklinricardomitacampos6696 6 сағат бұрын
That Pogo's support for McNullty at Itzulia was a mistake.
@martinmavric5760
@martinmavric5760 14 сағат бұрын
Chris, thank you for your work. I haven't missed any of your videos. Regarding the drama you mentioned within the Slovenian team, I believe it's being blown out of proportion. From what I understand, Roglič has agreed to support Pogačar - unofficially, of course. He'll act as a backup in case something happens to Pogačar early in the race, But later, he will work for Pogacar. I think Roglič knows that Pogačar is better prepared for the World Championships. Pogačar has been focusing on this event for the last two months, while Roglič was busy racing in Spain. This situation also reminds me of why Roglič didn’t work for Kuss last year - because Roglič had been training specifically for the Vuelta, but was then restricted from racing for the win. If you’ve trained hard for a particular race and been promised leadership, you should at least have a fair shot at competing for victory. Last year, Jumbo-Visma should have let Roglič, Vingegaard, and Kuss race each other. The team still would have secured the top three spots, but in a different order. Kuss likely wouldn't have won in that scenario.
@tonyg3091
@tonyg3091 15 сағат бұрын
Pog attacks at km 245, opens 40-50 seconds gap atop of the last climb and that’s it. Lights out. No hope for the mortals.
@gregtitus2467
@gregtitus2467 20 сағат бұрын
It'd make sense for PR & TP to make an agreement: TP supports PR this year, and PR supports TP next year. Two top cyclists working together to ensure a win is better than working against each other and someone else (MVP, RE) takes it out from under them. And the Slovenian team comes out on top both years.
@georgehugh3455
@georgehugh3455 19 сағат бұрын
I don't believe either cares about the "Slovenian team," and with their ego's, a "Next year I'll work for you" promise wouldn't fly, IMHO.
@J-cz7yv
@J-cz7yv 19 сағат бұрын
lol I’m sorry but that doesn’t make sense. Tadej should get the support in both years. Tadej and Primoz are not in the same class. Tadej is much better
@tonyg3091
@tonyg3091 15 сағат бұрын
Absolute hogwash. Next year Worlds will be held in Rwanda and the longest climb is Mt. Kigali which is only less than 6 km. Next year course will be much more suitable for Mathieu than Pog. Couple that with the hot weather and Pog is not the favorite at all. Pog has to win THIS YEAR. Also, his chance of winning the Triple Crown is NOW, next year he will probably do the Vuelta. Forget about letting Roglic win, Pog will come to the Worlds all guns blazing and will be giving no gifts.
@MrFriccolini
@MrFriccolini 14 сағат бұрын
i can't imagine either of the two slovenians working for the other
@janweyant8902
@janweyant8902 20 сағат бұрын
Here's my prediction: Tadej attacks and drops everyone, incl. Roglic. That's what Tadej does and what he's capable of. He doesn't need Roglic. Roglic is inconsistent...crashes, fitness levels. Tadej's a ROCK and there's no one who can stay with him except MAYBE Remco if there's not long mountain climbs.
@matthewheinicke-peart3552
@matthewheinicke-peart3552 18 сағат бұрын
He’s so inconsistent, he’s only won 5 grand tours in the last 5 years!
@milhouse53
@milhouse53 18 сағат бұрын
It will be Slovenia vs Belgium and maybe MVP tailing with them. Rog will work for Pogi
@ChrisHornerCycling
@ChrisHornerCycling 17 сағат бұрын
If it’s that simple then Pogi would have to go early. Which would allow Roglic to sit on the wheels behind. 🦋👊
@tonyg3091
@tonyg3091 15 сағат бұрын
@@ChrisHornerCyclingNo need to go early. What they need and will do is thin the herd before the last lap, then enter the last climb in a small group of favorites. 1-2 km into it, Pog turns the afterburners on and that’s it. The rest watch his tiny ass disappear into the distance 😂
@fiddleronthebike
@fiddleronthebike 10 сағат бұрын
@@tonyg3091It’s not that easy… if there are no early attacks and they get fresh to the finish, Roglic or even MVDP might be able to counter Pogis attack on steep but not so long climbs. And if he goes early and other nations chase him down Roglic may have a chance too. Despite his outstanding form Pogi has to race smart
@joebriggs8422
@joebriggs8422 21 сағат бұрын
It'll be a must watch race for sure!
@ChrisHornerCycling
@ChrisHornerCycling 18 сағат бұрын
👊🦋🔥
@5Xum
@5Xum 17 сағат бұрын
I think Roglič knows and agrees that he is second best on the road race. Possibly he got the itt spot as part of the agreement.
@ChrisHornerCycling
@ChrisHornerCycling 17 сағат бұрын
That could very well be true. 🤔🦋👊
@5Xum
@5Xum 17 сағат бұрын
@@ChrisHornerCycling I mean I love roglic, I'm not one of those in our country that still hate Pogačar because of 2020. But as good as he is, Pogačar is the most dominant anyone has been for over 50 years (mercx 1972 is the only season in history more impressive than Pogačar 2024, and 2024 isn't even over!) and Roglič is no fool. He knows that as well, and he's not an asshole. He may not LIKE Pogačar, but he's a countryman and a teammate. No chance in hell they race against each other. High chance they cooperate
@fabiovalentinuzzi5589
@fabiovalentinuzzi5589 16 сағат бұрын
​@@5Xumlet's hope so. My fear is the plan will be: "Matej, Domen, Luka will race for Tadej, we make the race hard for Tadej. But Primoz will be our wild card". As an Italian I remember with horror when our captain Damiano Cunego was in a small group about to win the WC in Varese back in 2008, and his teammate Ballan attacked with 2km to go, Cunego obviously was not allowed to follow him and Ballan became WC. Honestly? This is my fear: Roglic will try at some point (like Pog did in 2020) and if everyone keeps looking at Tadej, Roglic is world champion. I could also dare to say this is likely to happen.
@5Xum
@5Xum 16 сағат бұрын
@@fabiovalentinuzzi5589 What you describe as your fear I see as one of the best case scenarios. As long as it's a win for Slovenia, I'm in :)
@tonyg3091
@tonyg3091 14 сағат бұрын
@@fabiovalentinuzzi5589There is no such thing in nature as “race hard for Pog but not so hard for Roglic’. If it is hard for Pog means everyone else is dying. 😂 Ask Jonas Vingegaard, stage 15 TdF 2024
@ValterBrani
@ValterBrani 18 сағат бұрын
Roglic will win ITT Pogacar will win RR Deal done 😂 No hate, no tensions between them.
@ChrisHornerCycling
@ChrisHornerCycling 17 сағат бұрын
😂🦋👊
@fabiovalentinuzzi5589
@fabiovalentinuzzi5589 16 сағат бұрын
Can't imagine Roglic beat Remco in the TT
@tonyg3091
@tonyg3091 6 сағат бұрын
@@fabiovalentinuzzi5589 Indeed. Kid will be hard to beat on 46 km course with only one small bump in the middle.
@sonckad
@sonckad 3 сағат бұрын
It is mind-boggling for me as a Slovenian to be discussing which of our two this year's GT winners can become the WC on the 29th. And it's insane also that they have managed to get all our 7 WT cyclists to participate in addition to a CT one. It really is a golden era for cycling fans in Slovenia these days. Personally, I hope Roglic helps Pogacar get the triple crown just like Kelly helped Roche back in the day at the WC.
@stevefranke3985
@stevefranke3985 18 сағат бұрын
Thanks Chris!;! Great commentary as always;;!
@ChrisHornerCycling
@ChrisHornerCycling 17 сағат бұрын
👊🦋
@gideonmthembu8693
@gideonmthembu8693 19 сағат бұрын
They are the favorite and may win via Pogy. It's one thing with the Olympic gold missing in his shelf now and he wants it so bad. It will not matter for him whether he gets collaboration from the Slovenians. He can do with little support.
@ChrisHornerCycling
@ChrisHornerCycling 17 сағат бұрын
🤔🦋
@franklinricardomitacampos6696
@franklinricardomitacampos6696 6 сағат бұрын
Also, probably we do not remember how Roglic worked so hard for Steven Kruijswijk's bid to win the GC in the dramatic 2016 Giro. Obviously, everything changed for Roglic after his stage victory in the 2017 Tour.
@Chiller11
@Chiller11 21 сағат бұрын
Oh I’m exceptionally early today. Primoz does not like being a lieutenant if last year’s Vuelta is any measure. If there is a split of loyalties how do the rest of the Slovenian teammates line up? I’ll be definitely tuning in to the Butterfly 🦋 Effect or Beyond the Coverage to get a clear inside perspective on whatever goes down in the World Championship.
@lambertduong6490
@lambertduong6490 18 сағат бұрын
I suspect Domen Novak would have Pogacar's back, and Jan Tratnik would have Roglic's back.
@ChrisHornerCycling
@ChrisHornerCycling 18 сағат бұрын
Trade team loyalties first. 🤔🦋👍
@bananasplit123
@bananasplit123 13 сағат бұрын
most of them are probably with pogacar, bahrain/uae loyalties, much of the staff in the national team works/worked in those as well.
@ogradar85
@ogradar85 13 сағат бұрын
Last year's Vuelta leadership was promised to Primož at the start of the year, and then Jonas decided he'll mess up the team chemistry by joining in late. Jonas had already won the Tour, so leaving the Vuelta leadership to Primož would be a sensible thing, like Pogi left this year's Vuelta to Almeida, in order to keep teammates happy. Instead of keeping everyone happy, the team bosses slighted Primož, who was preparing for that race the whole summer. He even said that he made the decision to leave Visma before the Vuelta - meaning, he sensed that he was being disrespected by the team bosses, who broke their promise. Why would he help anyone in that situation? Even then, he obeyed team orders and didn't follow Jonas when he went on his 2 escapades (win for his daughter and van Hooydonck), while Jonas followed Primož on his only attempt for the stage win (stage 17). Primož can be a great lieutenant, you just have to communicate that assignment with him beforehand and not promise him one role and change your mind at the last second.
@nakawesiabia6311
@nakawesiabia6311 10 сағат бұрын
@@lambertduong6490exactly and mezgec will have tadej’s back too
@EMC2Scotia
@EMC2Scotia 18 сағат бұрын
They’ll be hoping Roglic wins the TT so his appetite for wins is somewhat sated. Either way, if I were PR, I’d be expecting protected status.
@ChrisHornerCycling
@ChrisHornerCycling 17 сағат бұрын
🦋👍
@tonyg3091
@tonyg3091 15 сағат бұрын
Protected status? Why would one protect Primoz when they have THE BEST RIDER IN THE HISTORY on their team?
@EMC2Scotia
@EMC2Scotia 13 сағат бұрын
@@tonyg3091 Merckx is riding for Slovenia? That aside, what rank is Roglic here on this channel? Who just won the Vuelta?
@tonyg3091
@tonyg3091 13 сағат бұрын
@@EMC2Scotia Seriously? 😅🤣😂😆 Who won the Giro, Tour, LBL, Catalunya and Strade Bianche?
@EMC2Scotia
@EMC2Scotia 13 сағат бұрын
@@tonyg3091 No one is saying Roglic is the better rider, but perhaps what I am getting at is, Roglic isn't or shouldn't be there just to work for Pogacar. He may well end up doing so, but it isn't an impossibility that the roles be reversed here. Hence my comment that PR should have some sort of protected status in the team.
@jaecheokkim99
@jaecheokkim99 9 сағат бұрын
I'm really glad that MVDP has great form again. And the race going to be more exciting :) ❤
@Mybrother53
@Mybrother53 19 сағат бұрын
How many high fives will Pogacar get at the end of Worlds if he wins by the other riders. Seeing how many riders are genuinely happy for Pogacar...haven't seen anything like for such a dominant cyclist...your thoughts??
@ChrisHornerCycling
@ChrisHornerCycling 17 сағат бұрын
More high fives than ever before. I can see that happening 🦋👊
@tonilauge5786
@tonilauge5786 19 сағат бұрын
Years between a situation like this! Little Nation, 2 strong riders. Got to Think back on Rolf Soenson and Bjarne Riis. That did n't work for Denmark. Hopefully it does for Slovenia. MVDP Hopes to benefit. Think it won't be a rewin of title Visma gives van Aert a Lifetime contract?? For being Knucklehead 24 of the year! Brave move and expensive. Totally Bonkers Trowing a green jersey in the bin at the Vuelta, an the chance of winning WM.
@ChrisHornerCycling
@ChrisHornerCycling 17 сағат бұрын
2012 TdF was a memorable one if we go out side of Worlds. Lance and Alberto another but we all saw that coming ahead of time. 😱🦋🇬🇧🔥👊🇸🇮
@tonilauge5786
@tonilauge5786 13 сағат бұрын
@@ChrisHornerCycling Don't Think Primoz Will continue more than 2 Years. He want That Vuelta record, sadly he's quickly fading. He has already spoken of ending Because of his many Crashes.
@cb6866
@cb6866 10 сағат бұрын
Thanks Chris and Garrett , any word on Wout ?
@End_Illegal_Apartheid_israhell
@End_Illegal_Apartheid_israhell 20 сағат бұрын
No one is taking down the 42 year old grand tour record
@ChrisHornerCycling
@ChrisHornerCycling 17 сағат бұрын
🌌🦋👊🪐
@joespinder9093
@joespinder9093 17 сағат бұрын
💯🙌🦋👊
@recrevs963
@recrevs963 2 сағат бұрын
Just to be clear.... is Primož Roglič number #2 ranked rider on this show for 2024? I figure Criterium du Dauphine and Vuelta a Espana trumps the Tour of Poland, O Gran Camino and Tirreno-Adriatico wins by Jonas.
@umutaymakoglu4418
@umutaymakoglu4418 21 сағат бұрын
Last year's race was a race of attrition. This year is no different. The strongest rider wins.
@ChrisHornerCycling
@ChrisHornerCycling 18 сағат бұрын
Then there won’t be much drama. But….. 🤔🦋🔥
@tonyg3091
@tonyg3091 14 сағат бұрын
It is very different tho
@eroscoe92
@eroscoe92 14 сағат бұрын
Chris, when do you reckon we will know which road cycling team Pauline Ferrand-Prévot is going to? Looking forward to all the Worlds events!
@123tilen123
@123tilen123 21 сағат бұрын
Whoever thinks Roglic would work for Tadej is wrong.. They both want to be a world champion! and that’s gonna be nasty I guess…
@davids1033
@davids1033 21 сағат бұрын
You are assuming Roglic stays on his bike for the whole race?
@J-cz7yv
@J-cz7yv 19 сағат бұрын
@@davids1033lol
@ChrisHornerCycling
@ChrisHornerCycling 18 сағат бұрын
Yep. 😱🦋🔥👍
@milhouse53
@milhouse53 18 сағат бұрын
I respectfully disagree. ROGLIC will work for Tadej or Slovenia would not bring him. This is a National team and of two of them honestly go head to head that is one thing..but if they are in a situation when one clearly jeopardize the other that is a national disgrace on live TV
@5Xum
@5Xum 17 сағат бұрын
If I'm DS for Slovenia I make it abundantly clear to roglic that he is amazingly good but Tadej is looking at potentially having the greatest season in cycling ever, so you are either helping him or you are not on the road.
@ZENmud
@ZENmud 21 сағат бұрын
Surely there are at least eight teams whose top two riders are going to try to stay "at the front"... so perhaps half the race (with or without a break) is going to be shared wind-breaking... not only Slovenia...
@ChrisHornerCycling
@ChrisHornerCycling 18 сағат бұрын
We will see just who works with Slovenia. 🤔🦋🔥👊
@kingjasko
@kingjasko 10 сағат бұрын
nah dude, they're very good friends, i don't expect any issues between them at all :D
@franciscopontesvelasco4315
@franciscopontesvelasco4315 11 сағат бұрын
Do u think roglic have options to get a medal in the time trial
@dejankolar120
@dejankolar120 10 сағат бұрын
The Slovenian coach said in interview that plan is everybody ride for Pog and hopefully that we have 2 podium......and Rogla podium on TT
@user-i.irmelyn
@user-i.irmelyn 9 сағат бұрын
Hm..he said Primoz and Tadej will be our leaders.We will see.I hope they have a plan A,B and C.
@nazgulzg
@nazgulzg 21 сағат бұрын
The only way Rogla can win it is sucking the wheel of Tadej when he goes (without helping) and waiting "fresher" for the sprint finish. Tacitly, that is Rogla only chance to beat Pogacar. On the other hand, Tadej might say "ur an ass", I'm waiting for other guys and then both of them might loose it. All in all it's great for us viewers and this is getting exciting + if MVP or Remco can follow it will be a blast ;-)
@milhouse53
@milhouse53 18 сағат бұрын
If two teammates go against one another it unthinkable. It will he a national disgrace and if Rogla do what you said here, he will suffer a publicity hit
@ChrisHornerCycling
@ChrisHornerCycling 17 сағат бұрын
Always possible 😱🦋👊
@tonyg3091
@tonyg3091 15 сағат бұрын
Dude, just check the course, there will be no sprint finish. Pog will destroy everyone in the last climb. Roglic has ZERO chances when Pog goes supersonic on the climb. Please get this simple fact: NOBODY in the world can keep up with Tadej Pogacar on a climb at this moment. Nobody.
@alexandreboisselet8336
@alexandreboisselet8336 2 сағат бұрын
@@tonyg3091 Calm down dude 😂
@erocnw1341
@erocnw1341 20 сағат бұрын
Interesting potential conflict with having two superstars on the same team.
@ChrisHornerCycling
@ChrisHornerCycling 17 сағат бұрын
🦋👊
@tonyg3091
@tonyg3091 15 сағат бұрын
There is only one superstar.
@danglybit1
@danglybit1 8 сағат бұрын
Now Evenapoel must be getting angst..but now is his time to play with the big boys...this is so exciting..
@ChrisHornerCycling
@ChrisHornerCycling 7 сағат бұрын
👊🦋🔥
@andyedwards7800
@andyedwards7800 3 сағат бұрын
Surely Belgium and the Dutch would be mad to ride with Slovenia? Pog is number 1 favourite, it's unlikely Remco or MVdP can beat him one on one. They should sit back, let chaos reign and pray they get to take advantage.
@sldulin
@sldulin 18 сағат бұрын
Would this be the race where it is least likely that an underdog will win? Has there ever been a successful breakaway in the UCI World Road championship?
@ChrisHornerCycling
@ChrisHornerCycling 17 сағат бұрын
Mads was unexpected. 🤔🦋
@dkjaer
@dkjaer 22 минут бұрын
The guy who struggled against Mas in the Vuelta is somehow supposed to drop Pogacar?
@ryanphelan6861
@ryanphelan6861 19 сағат бұрын
Tadej sacrificed at imola and got primoz a medal. At Tokyo roglic literally bailed in road race when in shape of his life winning gold itt. Cost Tadej gold he best wout to silver. Worst case primoz gets up road marking remco or on his own and Tadej can't attack his teammate. I don't think Tadej lets it happen but it's primoz nature I honestly think Tadej biggest competition is primoz. Worst case is actually reduced bunch like liege of past and primoz torpedoes Tadej lol and they lose both!!! Has to be for Tadej is have Novak last man and primoz marking out remco/Hirschi just imo
@ChrisHornerCycling
@ChrisHornerCycling 17 сағат бұрын
Yep. It could get ugly. 😬🦋🔥👍
@bananasplit123
@bananasplit123 13 сағат бұрын
in 2020, roglic didn't get a medal (and got enough s*** from belgians for not helping wout anyway). in tokyo, roglic was in pain (from the tdf crash) that day, didn't even know if he could ride the tt. as for this year, if pogacar is really that much better, he shouldn't have to worry about anyone, right? and if anything, pogacar will conveniently forget roglic is up the road and attack.
@dr.merlot1532
@dr.merlot1532 19 сағат бұрын
Pog said he is going to work for Primoz.
@J-cz7yv
@J-cz7yv 19 сағат бұрын
Where he say this?
@johnbriggs1038
@johnbriggs1038 19 сағат бұрын
Baloney....Pogi is going for the triple only 2 other riders have done. Merckx and Roche won the Giro, TDF, and World's all in the same season. Tadej wants to be part of that elite club, especially after giving away the chance at the grand tour sweep.
@ChrisHornerCycling
@ChrisHornerCycling 17 сағат бұрын
😂🤪🦋👊
@tonyg3091
@tonyg3091 14 сағат бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂 Yes as a DJ at the afterparty celebrating the Triple Crown
@dougduchateau443
@dougduchateau443 31 минут бұрын
I'm hopeful they have a "Jack and Arnie" type relationship.
@timliscum2861
@timliscum2861 20 сағат бұрын
I wonder why Jonas isn't racing the Worlds......
@ChrisHornerCycling
@ChrisHornerCycling 17 сағат бұрын
Good question 🤔🦋👍
@iacobogallus2110
@iacobogallus2110 16 сағат бұрын
He has just got son. So babysitting
@tonyg3091
@tonyg3091 14 сағат бұрын
To avoid further humiliation
@emilioroman9853
@emilioroman9853 18 сағат бұрын
What about Tokyo 2020? Roglic didn’t work for Pog but also didn’t interfere the race, he was obviously in good form as he cleaned the TT some days later so maybe he doesn’t get involved directly for the rainbow competition
@ChrisHornerCycling
@ChrisHornerCycling 17 сағат бұрын
Then there won’t be any drama. 🤔🦋
@emilioroman9853
@emilioroman9853 17 сағат бұрын
@@ChrisHornerCycling I think they deliberately avoid racing with one objective when they are both team slovenia
@bananasplit123
@bananasplit123 13 сағат бұрын
in tokyo, he couldn't help him, had pain from the tdf fall, didn't even know if he wasn't going to be able to ride the tt. (my opinion: he wouldn't have helped him and would have raced for himself, just like he will in the wc - and i think it's only right to put himself first)
@GianCRO9597
@GianCRO9597 16 сағат бұрын
Is there anyone who won olympic gold and wc in the same year? If none, I'm rooting for Remco otherwise MVDP all the way.
@davekata6610
@davekata6610 14 сағат бұрын
Primoz and tadej are at completely different levels
@333wheeler
@333wheeler 13 сағат бұрын
Yep but the Worlds can be a funny old race. ! Its a one off with lots of time to prepare the tactics for.
@TonyLeighton-sq6wg
@TonyLeighton-sq6wg 12 сағат бұрын
Pointless speculation.
@bananasplit123
@bananasplit123 13 сағат бұрын
i don't think roglic expects any help from pogacar (and most of the team), i hope he does his own thing and doesn't help pogacar.
@user-cx2bk6pm2f
@user-cx2bk6pm2f 20 сағат бұрын
How does Remco have his Strava set for imperial units? Belgium is a metric country so I assume he'd prefer km's.
@WattsOnTheUp
@WattsOnTheUp 19 сағат бұрын
I'll go out on a limb and guess those aren't remco's settings, those are Chris' settings. Strava will display other people activities based on your settings when you're checking them out irrespective of the settings of the person who's done the activity.
@ChrisHornerCycling
@ChrisHornerCycling 17 сағат бұрын
Im guessing with Watts here. 🤔🦋👊
@3ATGL
@3ATGL 21 сағат бұрын
😊
@ChrisHornerCycling
@ChrisHornerCycling 18 сағат бұрын
3AGTL bam. 💥 👊🦋🏆🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋
@samlin8089
@samlin8089 6 сағат бұрын
what do the team members get for helping their teammates?
@robis1975
@robis1975 3 сағат бұрын
I think there is no doubt that Pogi is the number 1. Primož is some kind of fake favorite. 270+km race not suits him.
@milhouse53
@milhouse53 18 сағат бұрын
If they dont work together for one of them to win..it will he Slovenian National failure.
@ChrisHornerCycling
@ChrisHornerCycling 17 сағат бұрын
Exactly 😱🦋🇸🇮
@bevillenz
@bevillenz 18 сағат бұрын
Worst case scenario for Slovenia, MVDP shows up to World's with the form he had last year.
@ChrisHornerCycling
@ChrisHornerCycling 17 сағат бұрын
That would be amazing for all of us fans. 🦋👊
@fabiovalentinuzzi5589
@fabiovalentinuzzi5589 16 сағат бұрын
I think Pogi's 2024 form is at least equal to that. Pogi at World's 2023 was exhausted after TDF. It took him 2 months to recover. Plus this year race has 1500 elevation meters more than Glasgow
@starkparker16
@starkparker16 20 сағат бұрын
I'm a Primoz fan but I don't know if I want the Slovenian to be the oldest GT winner in the galaxy. 🛋️🦋
@ChrisHornerCycling
@ChrisHornerCycling 17 сағат бұрын
😂🦋👊🌌🪐
@orangeorphan
@orangeorphan 19 сағат бұрын
Does it matter very much if they hate each other? They only ride on the same team once a year.
@ChrisHornerCycling
@ChrisHornerCycling 17 сағат бұрын
If you are the DS and your job is on the line. Then yes. 🤔🦋👊
@fabiovalentinuzzi5589
@fabiovalentinuzzi5589 16 сағат бұрын
This would damage both of them in their home country, since so far most slovenians have been very cautious to pick a side, sticking to the concept "our big legend is Roglic and the young talent is Pogi".
@fiddleronthebike
@fiddleronthebike 9 сағат бұрын
🤷🏼
@michaeldee697
@michaeldee697 8 сағат бұрын
how does a country with 2 million people have not just 2 of the best riders in the world... but a whole suite of support riders who are among the best at what they do? I'll have what they're having....
@ChrisHornerCycling
@ChrisHornerCycling 6 сағат бұрын
😀🦋
@TurnLeftNow
@TurnLeftNow 21 сағат бұрын
My bet is most teams will mark pogi but less so primoz, leaving him with a chance at (unlikely, but possible) breakaway. That’s why he’s racing this year, cuz he knows that having pogi on your team actually helps you. Team Will drive hard, for both, pogi will Be closely marked, primoz rides wheel, and then sensing his chance, he takes it with realistically his best chance at winning. Cuz let’s be honest, Roglic isn’t in the same league as the top 3
@ChrisHornerCycling
@ChrisHornerCycling 17 сағат бұрын
I got Roglic # 3 on my list. 🤪🦋👊
@fabiovalentinuzzi5589
@fabiovalentinuzzi5589 16 сағат бұрын
I agree, Roglic will be the wild card. And this would suck for Tadej a lot, because I'm almost 100% sure Roglic will have his shot during the race, maybe a little early, and Tadej will not be allowed to follow him.
@xander0901
@xander0901 18 сағат бұрын
Here’s my thinking. Tadej has always been a consummate professional and is driven by pure passion for the bike. Even when he blew up on those few Tour de France stages and got his legs ripped off him, I’ve never seen display animosity or distaste towards other riders. Primoz is definitely not as chatty as Tadej, but I have to say he is generally cordial with all riders in the peloton. Even when he was attacking Sepp Kuss as his teammate, I would attribute that to professional frustration after having being left off the Tour de France roster. He did not celebrate those wins as you would expect, so I like to believe there was a sense of guilt after putting his close teammate under the knife. When it comes to the two being teammates, I expect them to remain cordial with each other unless something extreme happens between the two of them, like one’s aggressive riding causing the other to crash. These two like to race hard, so I think anything short of a knucklehead decision that directly compromises the other rider would be interpreted as hard racing.
@ChrisHornerCycling
@ChrisHornerCycling 17 сағат бұрын
I agree. All that could happen. And also agree that last years Vuelta may have had some conversation from within Jumbo that could explain why Roglic raced like he did. 🤔🦋👊
@LancelotAlfred
@LancelotAlfred 10 сағат бұрын
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@freekfaro5606
@freekfaro5606 17 сағат бұрын
I believe Roglic and Pogacar grew up close to each other, and knew each other in their youth.
@fabiovalentinuzzi5589
@fabiovalentinuzzi5589 16 сағат бұрын
Nope, Roglic is 9 years older than Pogacar
@freekfaro5606
@freekfaro5606 16 сағат бұрын
@@fabiovalentinuzzi5589 they both grew up not far from Ljubljana, but 9 years is quite a distance in age. I think I've read about their connection some time ago, but could very well be wrong.
@ValterBrani
@ValterBrani 16 сағат бұрын
@@freekfaro5606 No, they are from different 'regions', they were in different sports, they are different age.
@Flexo_l
@Flexo_l Сағат бұрын
If Roglic gets a medal in TT he will 100% help Pogacar.
@mikeoc217
@mikeoc217 Сағат бұрын
#1 🇸🇮 Tadej #2 🇹🇩 Remco #3 🇸🇮 Primos Long Race tough course. Should be a great Race! 👍🏼🚵🏾‍♂️💯
@savagepro9060
@savagepro9060 21 сағат бұрын
Some non-related news P Diddy is in jail and by the looks of it, might stay there forever! Poetic justice is finally unfolding! The FEDS were . . . well FED UP. Now back to cycling! Sorry, I just had to!
@ChrisHornerCycling
@ChrisHornerCycling 18 сағат бұрын
It’s ugly out there 😬🦋
@savagepro9060
@savagepro9060 17 сағат бұрын
@@ChrisHornerCycling I hope Horner is not on those Freak-Out Tapes . . . right?
@fabiovalentinuzzi5589
@fabiovalentinuzzi5589 16 сағат бұрын
The saga does not continue
@savagepro9060
@savagepro9060 21 сағат бұрын
A popular KZbin Cycling Analyst: "Slovenia's WORST-CASE Scenario at 2024 Worlds" Here it is -->> Two famous Slov-Aliens cyclists were caught doping!
@ZENmud
@ZENmud 21 сағат бұрын
They would have to be doping to be "caught doping"... right?
@savagepro9060
@savagepro9060 21 сағат бұрын
@@ZENmud but that's the point
@J-cz7yv
@J-cz7yv 19 сағат бұрын
Stop you bot.
@ChrisHornerCycling
@ChrisHornerCycling 18 сағат бұрын
😳🦋
@margaritastoyanova9253
@margaritastoyanova9253 13 сағат бұрын
Only one of them. The other is a normal guy.
@rafalpruszynski1707
@rafalpruszynski1707 21 сағат бұрын
Roglic is a backstabber and a snake. He shouldn't have been selected.
@emichaelt817
@emichaelt817 20 сағат бұрын
Yeh that’s why I don’t like him, unfortunately
@luther5782
@luther5782 20 сағат бұрын
how so?
@matthewheinicke-peart3552
@matthewheinicke-peart3552 18 сағат бұрын
Roglic is a champion, with a champion’s mindset. You wouldn’t have a clue what that is
@fabiovalentinuzzi5589
@fabiovalentinuzzi5589 16 сағат бұрын
​@@luther5782he attacked his teammate Sepp Kuss who was wearing the red jersey in the 2023 Vuelta, remember the Angliru stage?
@iacobogallus2110
@iacobogallus2110 16 сағат бұрын
He went to Vuelta to win it. And don't forget that Jonas was attacking on stages before Angliru. Only snakes were DSs at Jumbo. That's paid this year. Visma 0 Roglič 1GT.
@leduch
@leduch 21 сағат бұрын
belgium🦋🦋🦋 he will not bit your record ! no worries , he has got to much hair ! merci njoylife
@ChrisHornerCycling
@ChrisHornerCycling 18 сағат бұрын
🦋👍
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