SM465 Complete Rebuild Part 1!!

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[@2004drnolava]

Who knew there's a guy out there that takes his time and pays attention to detail. Not too many of us out here with K series trucks and SM465 transmissions. Glad you're here to help. Thank you. Everyone has a honda video about their civic but this is awesome. Thanks for not half assing anything very helpful. I gotta fix the slop in my shifter. I put a heavy knob on it and I can really feel the extra play or wobble in the shifter.

[@GebBuilt]

Thank you I really appreciate that! I'm so glad my vids have helped, Thank you for watching and taking your time to comment, God bless!

[@scottproulx9157]

I'm putting a shortened K30 chassis under a '53 Chevy Kurbside Grumman Olson StepVan and thanks to your video, will be rebuilding the SM465. God Bless!

[@GebBuilt]

Scott Proulx That’s awesome! Enjoy that project! God bless you too!

[@deankay4434]

A factory service manual would say use tool #XXX-Z or suitable. This is why tool boxes bigger that a refrigerator still don't have all of the tools needed. And older product tools are missing because the guy quit and it left in his box! Suitable is what fits & works! Don't short yourself, ever if you get the job done. ASE Master tech since 78, retired.

[@YoungHeartedSoul]

What an amazing video. You were so thorough with everything. Not having the right tools helps people that dont have a huge pile of pro tools. I came here because i have a 72c10 with this tranny, I think? Code option M20-4speed. I just wanted to know what entails a rebuild and honestly not sure if i would attempt it. You did make it easier to understand! One more thing, I literally cried when your son showed up with a bloody nose, the way your kid came up to you with the curiosity even though he had a bloody nose was amazing! You didnt go into drama mode either! It got me sentimental because that 72 chevy c10 I have, was my daughters. it was a truck i found on Craigslist and i intended to flip it but she got so into it so much i was going to give it to her and two weeks after, she passed away from a car accident, she was 13 not as young as your kid but your kid reminded me of my daughter when-she was his age, as she acted very similar. If one day I have the means financially to restore her truck, i’d Defintely come back to your videos. Thank you!

[@sillygily4435]

This guys a genius. Film yourself taking everything apart so if you get confused on putting it back together you can just rewatch the footage

[@davidboatner3115]

Man, don’t not be proud, most of us here are watching because we on a budget and going to do the exact same thing, “ make what we have… Work “. Great video man, really helped me a lot

[@sambrose1]

Thanks for the post and thanks most of all for fast forwarding throughout the non-essential tidbits! I'll be doing an engine upgrade in my K-10 soon and while I'm at it rebuilding my sm465.

[@GebBuilt]

I'm glad you like my work! Thank you so much for watching and commenting! Have a blast with your project! God bless!

[@johnwahalla5049]

Great video, thank you so much, I needed to see a video about taking apart a top loader transmission> i have a NP 435 in my Ford 76 pick up, this will help taking apart soon.

[@michaelmiller1965]

I appreciate your videos they are quite useful. I'm also impressed with the way you interact with your kids. Thanks for the great videos.

[@GebBuilt]

Thank you so much for watching and commenting!! God bless.

[@Khethatipet]

Super high quality tutorial as always. Thanks for posting!

[@GebBuilt]

Thank you!! God bless!

[@johnnymofo1292]

And it is a perfect trifecta of videos my father and I have followed them and we've almost completed it thank you so much they've been a finger and time saver not to mention the headache we would have had had it not been for these videos thank you again and thank God for KZbin

[@JakeHughes-oo7gy]

I fixed my transfer case with your video .great job

[@MotArroyo]

I just tore apart my SM465 with the help of this video. The bearing puller I bought on Amazon said it was for a 75-100mm bearing. But the radius was too small for anything near that size, and the threads were too short. I ended up grinding the edge to fit the 4 inch input bearing, and used a rod of 5/8 allthread, and it worked perfectly, to my Roadkill standards.

[@GebBuilt]

Cody Arroyo nice, thank you for sharing! God bless!

[@sleddogg]

This video series has been extremely helpful, myself (and many others) really appreciate it. I just finished disassembling my SM465 this afternoon. Something I figured out on that front bearing that is in the way of removing the counter shaft, if you drive that bearing in towards the inside of the case, it will go all the way through and sit on the shaft out of the way. Then you can pull the counter shaft out, and the bearing just slips off the end. I had more trouble getting the rear bearing off the counter shaft then anything else.

[@GebBuilt]

Excellent input! Thank you for watching and the kind words! God bless!

[@edwardhernandez7600]

So helpful I have a 91 2500 and my 2nd gear has been out for months and I couldn't find the transmission due to being busy with work (transmission model) so thankful and looking forward to buying a used one to replace while I replace the original one to keep as a backup. 👌👌.

[@jeffroberts3133]

Best part of the video....21:45-22:45! Awesome! “Yeah”. Miss my kids being little! Thanks for your videos!

[@zacharnold145]

Excellent job!! Thanks for doing this.

[@GebBuilt]

Thank you for the feedback! God bless!

[@mikehlad9775]

Very helpful tutorial. Thanks for taking the time to make it.

[@GebBuilt]

Glad you like!! Thank you for commenting, God bless!!

[@OldSchoolLiberty]

Great videos! Helped me figure out my mistake. Forgot the snap ring inside on the main shaft. keep up the good work man. Thanks!

[@GebBuilt]

Awesome! happy I could help, God bless!

[@brianchrisman4331]

I have to tackle this project...I am rebuilding a CJ7 and attching a 465 to a dana 300 (Ordered the Novak part). I've done lots of shade tree work, but never something like this....Your videos make this look extremely doable. Thank you for posting them! I'm just a bit less nervous now lol

[@GebBuilt]

I'm so glad I can help out! Thank you for watching and commenting! God Bless!

[@cockasorrus7475]

Yeah buddy!!! That front brg. be toasted! lol When you were removing it with your Improvised method which hey it worked and no harm no foul, I noticed a gap in the ball area??? Then you confirmed the missing pieces!! Damn that would be noisy!! Thank you for sharing your time and knowledge!! I have a couple of the SM465's & NP205's. Really appreciate your showing us all in case we need to rebuild them! BTW, I have some snap ring pliers like the ones you attempted to use on the front brg.. It looked like a similar prob. I had on an auto trans reb. I had to thin out or manipulate if you will the two tips. They were too meaty! Anyway in case you have more than one pair you can alter a pair! Thanks!!!!

[@GebBuilt]

Great advice! And I’m glad you like my vids! Thank you for watching and commenting, God bless!

[@alexanderhayes6301]

Very very good video best step by step iv seen 🤟🏼

[@GebBuilt]

Awesome, I'm glad my vids can help! God bless!

[@deebow9702]

Very nice informative video. Thanks man!

[@GebBuilt]

Dee Bow I’m glad you enjoy! Thank you for watching and commenting, God bless!

[@oldtruckoperator2106]

me and my dad just yanked on part, he never did this so i knew more than him, we figured out if you are just replacing the polit bearing like me and you are doing take the bearing out of the back on the gear cluster and dont have to mess with the bottom ones, shaft came out in a second, but thanks for the video.

[@johndoe43]

On your front bearing otc makes a puller kit for the sepparator like you used. It's about 130 dollars. 4 long extention studs and forcing screw and cross tree. Good video and info.

[@workingmansrestorations7071]

My sm 465 was seized in neitral from rust... so i did some trading for another sm465 thinking it had a newer tcase... i smiled ear to ear when i saw a np205. And my sm465 is working. So now i can make mine a bad ass twin stick like i saw you have. Thanks for idea

[@johndoe43]

Also otc slide hammer kit has arms that can be ground a little to get behind that lower front bearing. Brian over at metalshaper shows that. Looks like you have a top notch helper. Seems like he has things lined out around there.

[@jameshorne8061]

awesome video, I have 2 of these in my shed needing a little tlc. I think I am ready to tackle the job now. BZ

[@GebBuilt]

Excellent!!

[@MattsShop]

Great quality vid. Thanks!

[@GebBuilt]

Thank you! I'm glad you watched and enjoyed! God bless!

[@lexluther5700]

Matt's Shop 9

[@unclequack5445]

As tough of a box as you'll ever see and will pull like a tractor in 1st gear literally.

[@GebBuilt]

Yes sir!

[@mikefochtman9834]

awesome tutorial! just found out today that I need to rebuild one of two that I have! (3rd gear pop out on hard acceleration) never tore into one but now feel confident enough to. thanks for all your hard work

[@GebBuilt]

Excellent!! So glad my stuff helps! God bless and thank you for watching and commenting!

[@jimshowtovideos]

thanks for taking the time to make this video, very good

[@GebBuilt]

Thank you so much for watching and the kind words!! God Bless!!

[@wacey2002]

GebBuilt where is the updates bro. I'm working on a 86 Chevy m1008. Same drivetrain setup as you.

[@GebBuilt]

Hey I really appreciate your asking! This project was drawing me away from the people who matter the most in my life. I was spending every evening and weekend after work in the shop on this truck. It was stressing my marriage bigtime as I was prioritizing this truck over quality time with my wife and sons so I wisely chose to shut down the project and sell it. It has been one of the best decisions I've ever made! I dream of running a shop full time with my boys and going full bore into this KZbin channel again but for now I will continue to answer questions and interact the best I can with you and all viewers! Again, thank you so much and God Bless!!

[@papasavage8247]

What would I need to convert to 4x4 other than shaft and tcase adapter? Just replace the main shaft and snap rings and everything else would be identical gear wise etc?

[@brettupthagrove1873]

I am doing an LT1 swap in my 1967 Chevy C10. The donor is a 1993 Chevy Z28. What size clutch or what year to I use to mate to my SM465? So what parts do I need?

[@Righteousresponse]

My output shaft on my 465 needs replaced. Will that last gear on the input shaft press off and on the new one? Or will I need to buy a new gear

[@workingmansrestorations7071]

I have the same press. Didnt work good for ujoints... but i will save it for my rebuild

[@tommetcalf5946]

Is the spacer with the Novak kit for 3rd gear going to be loose on the shaft between the gears after it is installed?

[@capttrouble]

Hey geb any advice on a sm465 that stalls the engine in reverse only?

[@halfassautomotive6824]

Subbed because of the uscca sticker

[@USA-vo5by]

Have you put transmission into service yet ? Did the 3rd gear fix work ?

[@jameslugar7251]

Thanks for the video. Just now getting into it. What is the bit on the drill at 5:55?

[@danread3643]

Question.. in your last vid on installing the top cover you said to put tran in neutral an the reverse teeth need to catch the first gear. Did all that but i knocked the shifter out of the position while cleaning the surface on the top cover. Now she wont go back in. Any tips??? Thank you.

[@GebBuilt]

Dan Read everything needs to be aligned in half reverse. Put the shifter in reverse then bump it halfway back up then the collars inside the transmission need to relate. Sometimes it requires a few tries and some patience. Thank you for your question, God bless!

[@gustavocastillo1974]

gracias , me has enseñado mucho

[@GebBuilt]

Denada! Gracias!

[@JoeliusZ28]

Thanks for the video, this is very informative! I've got a bad rattle on the highway and I'm suspecting the input bearing is going on my SM465 like yours did, would you be able to describe the sound that made? (have a couple videos on my channel as well). Also, did you find any metal in the gear oil from it?

[@GebBuilt]

Sorry I do not recall the noise it made prior to breaking the bell housing however I do remember the sound a shattering bell housing makes!! Yes I found a bunch of metal and bearing pieces in the case too. Thank you so much for watching- I will check out your channel as well! God Bless!!

[@alexgarza2922]

Hey I just bought a muncie 465 for my 83' El camino. Great video, just wondering where did you get the rebuild kit from?

[@ronrico2620]

Do I have to pull the counter shaft to replace the reverse idler gear? I can get a punch on the big pin through the pto cover, not the best angle. I gave a few taps and it didn't budge. Just wondering if anything is stopping it or do I get the bfh

[@klar44]

Enjoy your video.. I got a Novak adapter for my Dana 300 transfer case. This inspired my to attempt to install it.. I'm stuck on the output shaft bearing. I remove the slip rings and am using your example to get it off but it won't come off the output shaft. the bearing comes out of the case but I can't get it off the shaft. You use a air hammer but that just pushes the bearing back into the case. Should I use heat or is there another way to get it off?

[@GebBuilt]

Sorry for the delay- my wife and I recently introduced baby Geb #4 into the world! After being an ag and heavy equipment mechanic for many years I've become very partial to my air hammer. I'd say the proper way to pull this bearing would be with the appropriate sized clamshell bearing puller. If it is frozen to the shaft then I'd grab the oxy ace torch and carefully shave the inner race off of the shaft. Hope these pointers help, God bless sir!!

[@ronrico2620]

Hey I never see you press the 2nd gear bushing but not the 1st gear bushing? What part of the shaft do I rest on the press plates when pushing 1st on?

[@cortlandterris8997]

Great video.I'm doing a rebuild on my trans, has a little more than 20k miles on it, but leaks a lot. The truck it came out of was used for snow plowing in a boat yard so I figured I just do everything thing. Also in one of your other videos you mentioned the teflon on the shift forks, mine still has just about all of it. One fork has a small chip. Lastly I don't know if its on accident or purpose but the spanner tool used for the hubs on corp. 10 bolt front axles is the same as the one on the tail shaft. Keep up the good work

[@GebBuilt]

Awesome! Thank you for the input - I had another viewer mention that the hub spanner would work as well -great info! God bless and have fun with your rebuild!

[@mikecondoluci53]

great video i just rebuilt my first sm465 not to bad thanks to your videos learned alot thanks man glad your feelin better , keep the boy buy the wrenches and away from the tv games lol

[@GebBuilt]

That’s so awesome! I’m glad my material could help, thank you for letting me know! No video games for my kids, we don’t watch any tv either! Maybe some KZbin now and then😊 God bless!

[@mikewarren5262]

Question for You Would A Bad Front Bearing Make A Vibration And Noise Im hoping its just because i have to much free play in my clutch

[@klar44]

Really enjoy your video.. My question is... are the 1st and 2nd gear bushings the same item? The ones on the main shaft? I've been looking for a 2nd gear bushing but can't find one for the late model SM465.. I got the 1st gear bushing off but I can't get the 2nd gear bushing off without destroying it... or tell me how to get it off..

[@GebBuilt]

Excellent questions - I doubt the bushing would come off without destroying it - nor would I suggest reusing it anyway. I do believe the 1st and 2nd bushings are the same, but it has been a while for me so I would suggest checking the Novak Transmission website or contacting them. they deal with these every day! Hope this helps, thank you so much for watching and commenting! God Bless!!

[@bfnfedboy2]

I have watched your videos a couple times and I enjoy them. I've got my 465 and 205 sitting out and waiting to rebuild them. You mentioned that you had books on the subject. What books do you have? The only book I've found is the Muncie 4sd rebuild manual. Thanks and keep up the good work?

[@GebBuilt]

Hi I'm glad you like my vids! I used an official GM service manual for the 73-87 light duty trucks and a GM unit repair manual that included the SM465. Great question, God bless!

[@ChristopherTrybus]

I’ve been rebuilding an 82 chevy step van and have a 292 with this sm465 trans. I have a low gear, 3 speeds, and reverse. The problem is I burn so much gas on highway driving at a top speed of 65 at about 3800 rpm. I want to remove the ‘low gear’ which is in 1st position and shift the other gears forward and add a 4th gear for cruising on highway at lower rpm with possibly more speed. Any suggestions where I could begin looking for gearing upgrades or more information on this in general?

[@GebBuilt]

If anyone would have gearing info it would be Novak Conversions. I have no idea. Great question, God bless!

[@truenorthjeep]

Great video. It's nice to watch someone deal with the problems that typically come up. What is you parts Bath? Still Mineral Spirits?

[@GebBuilt]

I'm very glad you enjoyed! Yes I use Mineral Spirits. A word of caution though; I've foolishly had my hands directly in mineral spirits for most of my mechanic days and it has taken its toll on my skin! USE CHEMICAL GLOVES! I didn't notice any adverse effects until my 40's and now if I touch mineral spirits my hands go crazy itching and hurting. There's my bit of wisdom gained from experience and hopefully you already practice better safety than I did! Anyway thank you so much for watching, God bless!

[@truenorthjeep]

Awesome thanks for the advice. I noticed your huge gloves in the video I'll probably get something decent too. Maybe not that huge but significant!

[@GebBuilt]

No problem! Have fun with your projects and be safe, thank you again!

[@izmailovdavid]

Hey geb, thanks for the videos, they're great. I had a question and thought I'd ask here. In the ten spline coupler there is a snap ring offset in the inside. Does that face the transfer case or tranny when installed? Also there is a side on the coupler that has two notches any idea what they are for or which direction they go? My guess is that the snap ring in the coupler is offset to force one of the input/output shafts against the case, but it fits both ways. Any help is appreciated. Thank you

[@GebBuilt]

Great question! I do not remember at the moment but I think I addressed it in my last video of the NP205 series! thank you, hopefully that can help, God bless!

[@atlassutton3806]

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[@alejandrooliver7197]

@Atlas Sutton instablaster :)

[@atlassutton3806]

@Alejandro Oliver I really appreciate your reply. I got to the site on google and Im waiting for the hacking stuff atm. I see it takes a while so I will get back to you later when my account password hopefully is recovered.

[@atlassutton3806]

@Alejandro Oliver It worked and I finally got access to my account again. Im so happy:D Thanks so much, you really help me out!

[@danielbarrentine2648]

HELP!!’ I’ve got one that’s making me pull my hair out. Hangs intermittently in 4th gear especially after applying a little torque like climbing a gentle hill and then trying to come to a stop. All other gears shift fine. If it sits a bit, it’ll come out of gear just fine. I can take the top off and get it out of gear with a couple of screwdrivers. Gears all appear to be in good shape. New clutch, pressure plate, throw out bearing, and flywheel surfaced. Motor has less than 500 miles on a fresh build. New pilot bushing when I built the engine. Any help appreciated.

[@GebBuilt]

I’d say it’s the transmission’s turn for rebuild.

[@chrisschrag7662]

so i just bought a 1984 C20 2WD that has a leak on the tailshaft that i didn't know about and the other day i heard a wierd noise so i checked the fluids (thats when i noticed the leak) and it took quite a bit of fluid and now its making a loud humming noise and i didn't know if i should rebuild it

[@chrisschrag7662]

thanks for replying and i probably will thanks!

[@atomlinsonson8788]

hey @gebbuilt what kinda noise does it make when this front bearing is gone?

[@GebBuilt]

Mine was a rough sound. I'd check immediately because if the bearing shucks it can do more damage.

[@Gonecheenin]

Maybe I missed it but what rebuild kit did you buy and from where? I was gonna use American Powertrain warehouse but read alot of bad reviews about them online. I'd like to find a kit with KOYO bearings and want to do the 3rd gear upgrade and everything while it's apart as well.

[@GebBuilt]

Novak Conversions had everything I needed, look them up, they are very helpful (linked below)! Great question and have a blast with your project, God bless!www.novak-adapt.com/catalog/transmission/transmission-parts

[@davidhudson9779]

I’m having a lot of trouble with the adjustment on my Z bar to the shift fork, I have had to make a longer custom adjustment bolt and I’ve had to make it longer and longer within a month, way past stock, I have no idea what is going on but it isn’t good, the clutch doesn’t engage to shift from a stop into 1st gear half the time and I have to just keep adjusting it further. HELP

[@GebBuilt]

Great question. It sounds like your clutch fork is bending. I've had it happen before too. It bends at the socket end where your pushrod goes in. I've modified those myself by welding reinforcement to the back side of the socket, or you can get a performance clutch fork. another issue could be the Z bar pivots - make sure there isn't too much slop there. I hope this helps out, if this is not the problem then I'd say it's time for a new full clutch assembly. God bless and enjoy your truck!

[@davidhudson9779]

@@GebBuilt well, my throw out bearing took a dump today so I have to go through the thing anyways, parts come in tomorrow so I will hopefully be able to finger out the problem, thank you!

[@jkbeaver4]

For some reason I thought you were supposed to put the shifter between reverse and neutral too get it out in one piece.? Could be wrong, but?

[@michaelcrider8413]

I have a noise around 50-55mph in an SM465. When i slightly let off throttle in 4th gear i hear a whining noise. Any thoughts?

[@GebBuilt]

That’s a good question. They are somewhat whiney transmissions by nature but if this is a new development in yours then there’s probably an issue. I really don’t have much input other than to start checking slop in the yokes then probably pull side covers then top cover to find the problem. By then it’s probably time to go through it anyway.

[@davidjackson7741]

what noise was your transmission making before you parked it i have an 87 gmc r1500 and i have a noise coming from my transmission not sure if its a throw out bearing or my clutch assembly

[@GebBuilt]

I truly do not remember, sorry. Let me know what you find! God bless!

[@JoeliusZ28]

@david jackson - I'm also trying to figure out a noise on my truck that I've narrowed down to those two sources. Videos on my channel. Did you have any luck figuring yours out?

[@Schetmesa]

How much different is a 420 rebuild? I have a 63 3rd synchro going out Thanks, great video

[@GebBuilt]

Thank you! I know they are very similar transmissions but that's about all I know. Try the Novak Conversions site. They are absolute experts! God bless!

[@devildog8016]

@@GebBuilt what would cause 1st and 2nd to give out 1st dont hold and seconds about there

[@juanzombie6445]

This type of transmission works in a 2.8 Chevy engine?

[@GebBuilt]

Good question, I don't know! God bless!

[@johnnymofo1292]

You can get the counterhaft out without taking the small bearing out of the housing

[@jakestree1892]

I thought my 465 was bad but it was only the front bearing good as new and much quieter

[@GebBuilt]

Very good news! Thank you for sharing, God bless!

[@mikefochtman9834]

for certain

[@kristeran4777]

Can you use the main shaft from a 4wd on a 2wd case with all the same gears just a different main shaft

[@GebBuilt]

Kris Teran I think so but Novak Adapters would be the place to call.

[@kristeran4777]

GebBuilt okay thank you for the info

[@GebBuilt]

Kris Teran thank you for the question, the guys at Novak are the gurus! God bless!

[@kristeran4777]

Do you have their number by any chance

[@GebBuilt]

Kris Teran 4357532513 www.novak-adapt.com/

[@AndrewB23]

If I'm just replacing 3rd and the slider do I need a press

[@GebBuilt]

Yes, Thank you for watching and asking! God bless!

[@DP69264]

I know this is pretty old and not sure if you'll see this but do you have a link to the gm book you used for this?

[@GebBuilt]

david pinckney it was the 1982 Chevrolet Light Duty Truck Shop Manual. #S 330-82

[@chastblind7606]

Can someone please post part's list

[@lindseysteele1436]

Can anyone tell me whi my 3and4 slider want move

[@stevewoodrow6032]

Around 10min, seems like you’re doing something from the top end while josling the shaft out. Overall very helpful video, I’m going to record myself tearing down mine just Incase. Thank you!

[@stevewoodrow6032]

P.S. the book never has it 100% correct xD more so they shorten their words for less pages leaving many clueless.

[@GebBuilt]

Steve Woodrow I was just enhancing the jostling from the top with my other hand. Great observation and thank you for watching and commenting! God bless!

[@dadybig6522]

You use the tools that you have I always improvise and hands it's true it happen to me

[@LandYacht-qy4dn]

How do you adjust the clutch on one of these

[@GebBuilt]

Hi Sam thank you for watching and your question! I assume you have the typical mechanical linkage?

[@LandYacht-qy4dn]

GebBuilt. No its from a 1991

[@GebBuilt]

So is it hydraulic?

[@LandYacht-qy4dn]

it is

[@GebBuilt]

I don't remember ever dealing with that particular hydraulic set up but I am 98% positive that there is no adjustment to it. I wish I could tell you for certain but that's all I've got at the moment.

[@ShainAndrews]

21:41 Poor kiddo. I'd like to tell him you learn to stop using your face to stop various objects as you get older, but I'm not certain at what age that occurs at yet.

[@GebBuilt]

Great point! There are some things that can't be taught and just need to be learned by experience. Thank you for watching and commenting, God bless!

[@black85chevy]

can you link the books you have? I can't find a good one.

[@GebBuilt]

They are actual paper books.

[@black85chevy]

Where can I find them? Are they SM465 specific?

[@GebBuilt]

+black85chevy I see what you're saying now. I'll go out to the shop after bit and get the info. Sicker than a dog over here so bear with me.

[@GebBuilt]

+black85chevy the manual I am using is a 1982 Chevrolet Light duty truck 10-30 series Shop Manual. #330-82. Light blue in color. I'll post a pic of it on my fb page... m.facebook.com/GebBuilt/

[@erichuntII]

haha same thing happened to my trans i just did this the other day

[@nonyadamnbusiness9887]

15.53 Never, ever do that. Just go buy a puller, they aren't so expensive.

[@GebBuilt]

Thank you for the input! God bless!

[@germanjimenez4782]

,, z,

[@GebBuilt]

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