SM64 - Stomp on the Thwomp - 6x A Presses [OUTDATED]

THIS VIDEO IS OUTDATED - SEE A BETTER VERSION OF THIS VIDEO HERE:
• TTC Stomp on the Thwom...
I collect the star Stomp on the Thwomp in Tick Tock Clock using 6 A presses. The A presses are as follows:
A Press #1: to get past the first rotating block
A Presses #2-3: to get past the 3 rotating blocks onto the mesh floor
A Press #4: to get onto the rotating cogs
A Press #5: to double jump to the top of the clock
A Press #6: to jump onto thwomp
This video is an improvement from my previous video in which I collected this star in 7 A presses. You can find that video here: • SM64 - Stomp on the Th... . Since then, Tyler Kehne discovered that there is a pedro spot within the cogs if the clock parts are frozen. Furthermore, he figured out that Mario could reach this pedro spot using a bob-omb. I then optimized the A presses needed to achieve that pedro spot enough so that we ended up saving an A press.
Here is a play by play of what I do. First, I use the crazy box in TTM to set the HOLP to a precise location. Then in TTC I use instant release to place the bob-omb at the HOLP. I then climb up TTC and reactivate the bob-omb to have it snap to me. I bring it to the cogs and use its hitbox to push Mario into the pedro spot. From there, I use the pedro spot to build up speed until I have enough to double jump to the top of the clock, and from there I collect the star.
What is instant release? If Mario both dives into a grabbable object and bonks his head on a wall simultaneously, he'll both grab the object and release it on the same frame. The HOLP is a variable in the game that keeps track of the last place Mario has held an object. It updates continuously as Mario holds an object, and it's the position where released objects appear. However, when Mario performs instant release, the object is released at the HOLP (as it usually is), but the HOLP has not been updated to where it should be since Mario released the object after 0 frames! This means the object will appear at the previous HOLP, i.e. the coordinates of the last place Mario held an object.
What is a pedro spot? It's a spot where Mario can be airborne and about to move onto a floor that has a ceiling right above it. The game calculates Mario's intended position, which is then raised up by the floor. However, the ceiling prevents Mario from moving to that spot. Consequently, Mario will end up remaining in place while able to gain forward speed. His forward speed will increase until the ceiling or floor runs out and he breaks free from the pedro spot.
.m64 stats:
Length: 4 minutes and 38 seconds
Re-records: 2021
Frames: 16660 (8250 input)
Time to TAS: 2 hours
Commentated Version: • SM64 - Stomp on the Th...
ABC Playlist: • Super Mario 64 - A But...
ABC Routes: docs.google.co...

[@laithakkad2221]

Anyone here after it became 0x? Crazy that the community was able to get it down to 0x? The ABC has come a long way, and the work that the community has done on this challenge is incredible. And now that ttc is 0x it gives new hope that hopefully they can beat the game in 0x.

[@xshobux]

It's crazy that the most vertical star in the game is now 0x, but a star that seems insanely simple from the surface (like the jrb chest star) is still out of reach

[@kai-speedrunningandstuff3292]

ye

[@slowfreq]

god damn dude, you had me confused right up until you hit that pedro spot. that is some clever shit, can't wait to watch the commentated version

[@nowais]

tfw you hit the pedro spot

[@BestHercules]

WHAT WHAT WHAT

[@gipgip01]

Your profile pic fits your reaction... Again

[@MattCrafter]

+Repiteo You again...

[@iwersonsch5131]

Read desc (especially the third-to-last line).

[@SoundFantasy]

I love going back to these old videos to see the progress pannen has made.

[@klop4228]

Heh

[@SoundFantasy]

@@klop4228 0x A press success!

[@melon5031]

"I beat stomp the thwomp with x6 a presses" "What did it cost" "3 minuites"

[@mirrorgs]

I will never cease to be amazed by the great extent that people will go to in order to exploit any and every possible loophole in a game's code.

[@AnimatedGalaxy]

Stomp On The Thwomp in Tick Tock Clock Starts video in Tall Tall Mountain

[@johnwp2840]

AnimatedGalaxy to make the right HOLP

[@jojo0753]

AnimatedGalaxy to set the HOLP in a certain place

[@vilmercarlsson9652]

HOLP?

[@wessirius1468]

Vilmer Carlsson watch the commentated version, he'll explain it to you

[@nil8659]

He setted up a thing called HOLP,which is basically an object's last place where Mario held it. Once Mario throws an object,the HOLP will be set to the place of object that is about to be thrown by Mario.

[@Sharkey91]

Your the best guy at sm64 ive never seen that , youre clearly a GOD

[@marioisawesome8218]

It's just done Frame by frame

[@Sharkey91]

I know, but he finds impressive things in the game that nobody else would find

[@marioisawesome8218]

He didn't find everything though, but it's still cool to see how he can find paths he can use with exploits and glitches.

[@Sharkey91]

Yes ;)

[@andresbarragan7212]

Wait for the speed run community

[@natnew32]

This was the last thing I expected to show up in my sub. box.

[@pannenkoek2012]

+1ted59 shhhh

[@1ted59]

+pannenkoek2012 sry bb

[@TylerKehne]

+1ted59 is ok

[@ShayminLover492]

+pannenkoek2012 Do you us TAS for these videos?

[@natnew32]

Yes, he does.

[@thelog6114]

Watching this and seeing [[OUTDATED]] makes me happy.

[@Zantosification]

any news about the upward glitch and bounty?

[@1ted59]

it hasn't been claimed yet.

[@opplerdop]

+Zantosification I read somewhere that it was determined to be a hardware failure and not reproducible

[@Gramini]

+Glorious Wabunga That could be. One time I spawned with a Wingcap in hand at the blue cap switch. It's a change of one or two bytes.

[@CEtro569]

+Glorious Wabunga It was recreated though. It was (at least kind of) determined to be a bit flip during a hardware malfunction. They assume this, because when the exact, emulated bit is flipped, it caused the same effect.

[@pannenkoek2012]

+CEtro569 The bit flip is currently the best hypothesis, though that still doesn't determine whether it was a hardware malfunction or an in-game bug that does it. Of course, before the bit-flip hypothesis, there was the ceiling triangle hypothesis, and so there's no telling whether a better hypothesis will soon come along.

[@Whyamibzsdmh]

Now do it without pressing any buttons

[@dangobango2248]

it's not easy ya know

[@digdug1489]

It is a simple matter for pannenkoek2012, the God of this mortal coil.

[@HeyKevinYT]

No buttons? But first, we need to talk about perpendicular universes.

[@ivan5692]

He has done it before. Look up No Buttons Allowed

[@unsubscribefrommeplease7178]

THE CONTROL STICK ISNT A BUTTON.

[@Jugem16]

The wizardry continues! But really, this is incredibly impressive :)

[@heave-ho6864]

Current A Press Count for All Main and Secret Courses (Including A Presses Required to Reach and/or Enter): 0 A Presses Required: Bomb-Omb Battlefield; Whomp's Fortress; Cool, Cool Mountain; Dire, Dire Docks; Tall, Tall Mountain; Snowman's Land; Wet-Dry World; Tower of the Wing Cap; Cavern of the Metal Cap; Vanish Cap Under the Moat; All Toad Stars; All MIPS Stars; Bowser in the Dark World; Bowser in the Sky 1 A Press Required: Lethal Lava Land; Hazy Maze Cave; Rainbow Ride; Castle Secret Slide; Secret Aquarium; Bowser in the Fire Sea 2 A Presses Required: Shifting Sand Land; Tiny-Huge Island 3 A Presses Required: Jolly Roger Bay; Big Boo's Haunt, Wing Mario Over the Rainbow 17 A Presses Required: Tick-Tock Clock Total: 36 A Presses

[@xy2i]

+Heave-Ho You know, pannenkoek keeps track of these in a public document. There's no need for this.

[@heave-ho6864]

xy2_ I know.

[@SunsetBear]

+Heave-Ho Does the ttc upwarp save any A presses

[@heave-ho6864]

SunsetBear Hasn't been figured out yet.

[@CompressedFlapwort]

What kind of genius magician are you this is amazing

[@RandoManFPV]

More commentaries/breakdowns please! 😊🔥

[@JorgetePanete]

pause flickers are just like **PITU PITU PITU PITU PITU PITU PITU PITU**

[@IrishJohn101]

1:01 At first I thought, "Okay, but I don't really see the pint to all th- 1:10 WHAT THE WHAT IN THE WHAT HOW?!"

[@PureZOOKS]

0:56 Ok, I get it, a pause abuse thing to glitch himself into the corner 1:02 OH GOD NO, HE'S DOING THE THING AGAIN!

[@GoForTee]

Can't Stomp The Thwomp

[@maf5693]

What a beautiful vid to reflect back on nowadays

[@Cardmaster12]

this was actually the hardest star for me to get as a kid :P

[@neilwinter9862]

Oh boy, if only future pannen knew what was in store for the future of this star. Now just 1 singular A press

[@neilwinter9862]

@@pathall Holy shit

[@formeryounglinkmain]

0:57 WHAT THE

[@ollieoniel]

Is there a way to do the parallel universes in the z direction by building up speed through the roof or floor?

[@sarahbenner7283]

+Oliver o niell I am not an expert on the engine of this game, but my idea would be that there's no way to do it through the floor because Mario would hit the death barrier and, well, die, and to do it through the roof would probably not be successful (and be much less manageable than simply horizontal PU movement because Mario is constantly accelerated downward while in the air).

[@connfdm]

I'm almost completely certain you said in a different video crazy boxes don't update the HOLP. Did that small pause in between grabbing the box and bouncing somehow update the HOLP?

[@goombaheart9303]

I can't wait to watch both.

[@LoogiTheDino]

OMG A VIDEO!? PogChamp But seriously when are those videos of the Scuttlebug malniplations gonna come out?

[@pannenkoek2012]

Well, not as soon as it could be if everyone wants me to do commentated versions

[@kkmac7247]

@@pannenkoek2012 You can see the frustration in this reply

[@PaperLuigiInACar]

Is it possible to do HOLP and cloning in the DS version, or does it use a completely different engine?

[@MattCrafter]

+Lord Dippingsauce (Jacob) It uses a completely different physics engine.

[@PaperLuigiInACar]

Ah. That's disappointing

[@MattCrafter]

Lord Dippingsauce Yeah, I feel your pain

[@chlorobyte]

+Lord Dippingsauce (Jacob) Yes, it might be, but there are some buttons you can press instead of A that you couldn't in the original game, e.g. the cannon

[@chlorobyte]

***** And you can jump from a Y+A dive. (or whatev er it is. also i'm forgetting that SM64DS uses B button for this

[@xenosonic9x414]

The 5th A Press could be very useful for 120 Star Speedruns.

[@finbeard]

except for the fact you have to burn about 3 minutes to build up enough speed... ;_;

[@xenosonic9x414]

finbeard liek if u cri everytim ;-;

[@nigapo]

1:08 Mario Shooting Stars

[@rojorum2433]

Man you are so good you are awesome

[@grandlandmaster6143]

all these work...makes only 1 A press difference ?

[@graymondgt1397]

Wouldn't the upwards warp be able to save an A press or 2? People have done it...

[@tun444]

outdated to 2x in just 2 years... wow.

[@jhonatanmacieldealmeidarib8260]

go to the vanish cap course, do a LJ and if you time right, you gonna hit the floor of the tilted wall and the floor and get out of the course. and then mario dies for no reason.

[@TheLoveMario]

hey, how did you activate the SPD meter? did you use gameshark or something

[@kolonmelon8173]

rollin into dat nicholas cage

[@Xgamesvidoes]

I am not going to try THAT! XD

[@chlorobyte]

Could you somehow use the same pedro spot to hop Mario directly to the star already? Saving another A press.

[@reddodeado301]

YOU (somewhat) PREDICTED THE FUTURE

[@user-gw1vp6hn4g]

But can you do it in 0.5 A presses

[@D13djeej]

Mattronic1016 no

[@SunsetBear]

You can't do the thing with the bomb any earlier?

[@Numberplay]

not counting the press needed to enter TTC?

[@HeyKevinYT]

This is done in a single star basis

[@libernox5376]

Okay. thats awesome.

[@monsterhunterdude569]

Bowser in the sky with minimum a presses

[@Sickolas7]

unless you can enter TTM without pressing a isn't this a net gain of 0 a presses?

[@pannenkoek2012]

Actually, we can in fact enter TTM with no A presses. It's just pretty precise: kzbin.info/www/bejne/o52rq6SAo5eGg9Um5s

[@Sickolas7]

pannenkoek2012 yeah i found the video like 30m after i posted that. for some reason i thought it was higher up. cool stuff.

[@want-diversecontent3887]

pannenkoek2012 But not TTC. Yet.

[@grandmamaspif6094]

I'm new and super mario 64 is my favorite subbing to u

[@dangobango2248]

oh crap now we can expect a jumpscare fest right XD jk jk

[@grandmamaspif6094]

glitch hunter ig

[@Xereant]

That is awesome!

[@timpunny]

I now expect three hundred seventy-six thousand, four hundred twenty seven and thirty thirty-fifths of a video as makeup for all this time with no vids. (jk) Seriously tho, WE WANT SCUTTLEBUG LEV!

[@timpunny]

Also, we don't need the commentated versions. What happened to recaps at the end?

[@pannenkoek2012]

Well everyone seems to like the commentated version, so I'm trying to do that for this wave of improvements. That also makes it unnecessary for me to have explanations in the uncommentated versions. Though, making the commentated versions isn't easy or quick, so the new videos will come out slower than they otherwise would.

[@timpunny]

Also, not sure if this helps, but I found a 1x A press Pedro spot in the foyer.

[@timpunny]

Probably not, I just bonk my head. Sometimes, I go into the wall and Mario is stuck in what looks lile a HSW, but it's not because he isn't gaining or decreasing in speed.

[@nan0smm647]

It is possible to check the game files and bring blarrg back?

[@chlorobyte]

+The Master Of videogames FNAF and More yes. but it's hacking. please don't talk about hacking in a glitching video.

[@marioisawesome8218]

Why not? There are good and bad hacks. Different worlds / levels / textures / single player fun, then the bad ones are using them as an advantage.

[@chlorobyte]

_x_Mario_x_YT But hes doing stuff on a legit ROM. Altough yes Blargg can be brought back, even with giving texture and more usability

[@marioisawesome8218]

So what if he's doing something on a legit ROM? The Master Of videogames Sonic and More​ can still ask about bringing an unused char back, even with hacks.

[@wilux2469]

is it possible to starclip onto the first frozen yellow block?

[@DoorknobPlus]

not enough coins

[@9fly640]

hi pan

[@leonardosaviane7502]

Cool

[@inwencja2009]

I can't perform any extensive research on the game anymore. My computer's hard drive is full, so it can't run SM64 on the computer. Mupen64 is just a bad N64 emulator. AAAAAND Gameshark does not work on my tablet with SM64 on it. GG me.

[@thesupagamer6944]

pfft I can do that