SM64 - Roll into the Cage - 0x A Presses

I collect the star Roll into the Cage in Tick Tock Clock using 0 A presses.
This video is an improvement from my previous video in which I collected this star in 1 A press. You can find that video here: • SM64 - Roll into the C... . Since then, the ABC crew learned of the instant release glitch, which was pivotal for saving the A press.
Story time! So Plush showed the ABC crew this video from Honey [ • WTF ]. This actually reminded me of something unexplainable that had happened to me years earlier, in which I dove with a bob-omb in TTC and the bob-omb warped across the stage. Eventually, we recreated it, studied it, and figured out exactly what was going on.
We've henceforth named this glitch the instant release, and here's how it works. If Mario both dives into a grabbable object and bonks his head on a wall simultaneously, he'll both grab the object and release it on the same frame. The HOLP is a variable in the game that keeps track of the last place Mario has held an object. It updates continuously as Mario holds an object, and it's the position where released objects appear. However, when Mario performs instant release, the object is released at the HOLP (as it usually is), but the HOLP has not been updated to where it should be since Mario released the object after 0 frames! This means the object will appear at the previous HOLP, i.e. the coordinates of the last place Mario held an object.
In the video, I first achieve a very precise HOLP using the chuckya in WDW. I then enter TTC and perform the instant release on one of the bob-ombs. The bob-omb is thus released at the HOLP laterally, but at Mario's current height. Consequently, the bob-omb ends up at a position out of bounds, and it's far enough away from Mario that it deactivates. Leaving the bob-omb there, I use the other bob-omb to clone coins so I have almost 100. Then I make my way onto the cogs and reenter the bob-bomb's radius. The bob-omb becomes active, but the game doesn't want it out of bounds, and so as a failsafe, it places the bob-omb at Mario's position. This is convenient for me, because then I can use the bob-omb's backwards momentum to get over to the cage, and from there I can use vertical speed conservation to get the star.
How did I make that ascent up to the cogs? First, I made a fire clone and got burned by it. Then I made a second fire clone, and was able to release it without getting burned because its hitbox was overshadowed by the first fire clone's now dormant hitbox. Then I cloned the 100th coin, and activated the 100 coin star near the fire clones. Finally, I dive recovered into the still active fire clone, got burned, did a fire bounce in mid-air, collected the 100 coin star, and "grabbed on" to the ledge using the star dance clip.
So what is vertical speed conservation? When Mario does a dive recover and lands, the variable that maintains his vertical speed does NOT reset to zero. So, if Mario lands while he is falling, then this vertical speed will be negative. But if Mario lands while he is still ascending (as is the case when he dive recovers on the lip of the cage's treadmill), then this vertical speed will be positive. This vertical speed WILL reset to 0 if Mario moves at all, but punching and breakdancing will not affect it. Anyway, once Mario becomes airborne, then his vertical speed takes instant effect. So by storing a positive vertical speed and not resetting it, I am able to have Mario "pop up" when he punches his way to over the crack in the ground between the treadmill and the cage floor, and then ground pound into the star.
So what is a star dance clip? The star dance clip is a technique where Mario collects a star, thereby allowing him to get onto ledges he wouldn't normally be able to get on. You see, when Mario collects a star, he enters a state where he is able to grab onto ledges. But when he grabs on in this state, instead of entering the grabbing on animation, he just appears at the top of the ledge and does his star dance. Thus, I am able to "grab on" to ledges after being burned.
ABC Playlist: • Super Mario 64 - A But...
ABC Routes: docs.google.com/document/d/1y...

[@Lugmillord]

Welcome to this week's lecture for Quantum Physics in Mario 64.

[@jackys_handle]

Accidentl reference,nice

[@turingsghost]

Every time I watch your videos, it's like watching a 60's sitcom. "I wonder what silly shenanigans are going to happen now? Is he going to abuse HOLPs again, the rascal? Is the bugger going to grind on the ledges in spare time like the cheeky fellow he is? Or will he go into parallel dimensions to steal Ms. Hemmingsworth's butterscotch pie? Oh, you darn kids!"

[@nebbii]

+coffeehauz literally seinfeld

[@XionGaTaosenai]

+coffeehauz Get the full 120 star TAS and have Electrical Beast commentate it

[@jongyon7192p]

+XionGaTaosenai I made a comment in a koek or keok video about ElectricalBeast commentating the video, but I can't find it anymore... I think it'll be pretty great hahaha.

[@neb64]

Or maybe he'll correct Tj """""""""Henry"""""""""" Yoshi one more time

[@ducklife4player620]

will he build up speed for 12 hours?

[@vaati000]

4:05 Bob-omb just like "I am so tired of your shit"

[@pannenkoek2012]

Lapbunny lol, and then when he respawns, it's directly into my hands. He just can't escape me!

[@najwan3672]

Now that's what i called "depression".

[@ItsYee64]

Bob-omb: put me down please! Mario: why? Bob-omb: just please put me down! Mario: ok Bob-omb: thanks but, im bored now Mario: what do you want to do? Bob-omb: i don't know how about you? Mario: lets talk about parallel universes

[@internetmovieguy]

speed runners have turned Legend of Zelda OOT into an action platformer and now you've turned mario into an insane puzzle game.

[@SimpleFlips]

This is awesome. Good job as always.

[@pkvox155]

Lol first replay

[@cameronvoller1310]

Shootouts to fimpleslips

[@RobertEnciso]

A SimpleFlips comment without likes Strange

[@owendinostudios1200]

Pannenkoek2012 more like pannenkookingupnewideas2012

[@thewindwakinghero7423]

Hi dad oh also, AND YOUR NOT EVEN SUBSCRIBED

[@GumiBaer]

He hoo-hoo'd when no one else did

[@JorWat25]

Not only do you use an entirely new glitch, but you combine it with coin duplication, fire duplication, star dance clipping, and vertical speed conservation. Just when I think I've seen your most impressive video, you make something even better. Also, at this point, you must understand the game better than the original programmers.

[@Lugmillord]

JorWat25 well, he basically finds all the glitches that the game testers didn't.

[@westomopresto]

+Lugmillord well let's be fair, i'm pretty sure game testers didn't need to find any of these. on like 100 regular play throughs of this game, i'm pretty sure none of those play throughs would involve any of these glitches. his work is impressive for sure

[@McNibbler]

+JorWat25 But his parallel universe warps tho

[@ameripinothepurplelink1888]

Pannen knows more about the game than the combined knowledge of the programmers Let that sink in for a moment

[@nickkayfabe6147]

Trust me, I don’t think ANY of them could have predicted parallel universes.

[@PerfectDarkly]

I like the part where he went "HOO HOO". God. This stuff.

[@catree5700]

mario saying HOO HOO was good, but i liked HOO HOO

[@brianpso]

Dude, you're gonna receive a prize someday.

[@brianpso]

brianpso all of you I mean

[@TylerKehne]

brianpso nah, just pan really

[@Lugmillord]

brianpso The nobel prize for SM64.

[@x1g5dj7dh4]

***** Maybe you can make a custom romhack for him

[@Lugmillord]

Chang Jia Yang Nah, I bet he rather wants to fully destroy the original game. There's still quite a bit left to destroy. Until all stars can be collected without any A presses he won't rest ;)

[@LvLupXD]

The use of the 100 coin star to gain height was amazing.

[@HorkSupreme]

This is why I love TAS, so ingenious.

[@vissova]

The thumbnail looks like Mario farting cheese powder onto a star. It's beautiful.

[@JumperIncorp]

Holy shit, now that you mentioned it, I can't unsee it.

[@thatoneguywiththeextremely8182]

Weird enough, I understood this completely, just because I've literally watched your videos for hours... I don't even have super Mario 64. 😐

[@slowfreq]

will you submit the whole 120 TAS to TASvideos when it's done? i'd like to see a week-long TAS be approved.

[@pannenkoek2012]

Probably. Worst case scenario they don't accept it

[@slowfreq]

the longest TAS right now is 8 hours... i don't think i could see this one being beaten lmoa

[@Greener221]

What about webnations?

[@olivebates]

+pannenkoek2012 so you're doing a 120 star no A press run????????

[@pannenkoek2012]

Eventually, yes

[@PlushSM64]

Finally bruh Setting HOLP, Instant release, cloning, hands free bomb, midair fire bounce + star clip, VSC. Is this 20xx

[@ilostthegame4801]

+Artism Expert (severely QPU misaligned) blip blip blip blip mishun compree

[@jeremiaholszewski1844]

Pannenkoek needs to get melee, then we can see his true power

[@RealClassixX]

It will only be 20xx when that damn pole will be on it's knees, begging for mercy.

[@ethancourter6225]

I Lost the game has picture of some kid doing a thumbs up lmao

[@Tom-jw7ii]

Classix and here we are just one year later

[@No-Me3]

Sir, you are a genius. I enjoy these vids, especially the explanations!

[@bwaindead5539]

but first, we need to talk about parallel universes

[@MegaDardery]

You gotta love how much the game refuses to let anything go OoB, I mean, for one of the first 3D games, there is no real OoB glitches other than Black Rooms. The fact that it even moves the bob-omb to Mario's location when it is out of bounds makes me love this game's code ten times more.

[@TylerKehne]

Megadardery On the other hand, if it was a little more lenient we could probably get THI reds and maybe BitFS :(

[@4232Nis]

Megadardery I've had mario go OoB. I had a blj speed of something in the -illions (was either billion or trillion). I don't die you just are in a void that's different from a black room

[@MegaDardery]

It is already well known that you can go to "limbo", basically a location where you can't see Mario, you can run but the game registers Mario as being in the same place. First, it still not a real OoB, you can't move freely. Second, afaik, you can't do this on a console, the game would freeze.

[@romajimamulo]

+Megadardery PUs

[@alejandrogarcia3004]

so he used a star to get another star with no jumps....

[@hypatch8014]

...and also got another star to spawn (the red coin one)+was close to the star below this one

[@iamrepairmanman]

You are to SM64 what that stryder guy is to paper mario

[@Kebabrulle4869]

Wrong, xStryder is to paper mario what pannenkoek is to sm64

[@NoahtheEpicGuy]

That's what they said...

[@janb.3600]

Comparing Stryder7x to Pannenkoek crashes Paper Mario.

[@renakunisaki]

What an odd failsafe. It's not just putting the bomb in front of Mario because he was holding it before? Only when it's out of bounds? That seems like potential for a lot more glitches, if just getting an (inactive?) object out of bounds warps it to Mario.

[@TylerKehne]

Rena Kunisaki OOB behavior depends on the object, the bob-omb seems to be the only thing that does this.

[@pannenkoek2012]

Tyler Kehne No, the bob-omb isn't the only one. I know the crazy box also does this, and others I think too. The bob-omb is unique in that its snapping to Mario's position can be delayed, since the bob-omb becomes deactivated. The crazy box doesn't allow for this delaying for some reason.

[@TylerKehne]

pannenkoek2012 oh yeah, I forgot that's what you said about it. That's weird that it can't be delayed even outside its activation radius.

[@PrincessAquos]

+John Yorson (GoombaHeart) Well, really HOLP displacement is the offending error in this situation, because it's the only reason you can get the bob-omb far away enough from Mario that it can deactivate and also be out of bounds. True, if there wasn't a grabbable object that could be deactivated, this wouldn't be possible, but the existence of one isn't an error, just a design decision on their part - one that certainly was not a problem under normal play scenarios.

[@PixelPointHD]

What are you?

[@hornyperson9602]

Sm64: What are you? Pannenkoek2012: Death.

[@crlyfryz8049]

4:05 That Bob-omb has accepted defeat.

[@g80gzt]

Anthony Chabot - -

[@loansharkjoe6687]

brilliant work! i love the bit at 5:06 so much the way you sort of jump but not with the A button. this was presented by a pure super mario 64 genius

[@pyrrhaloict4198]

Your work is so amazing bro

[@AlanGonzalez-xh2zq]

YEES you are back :D

[@epichickensoup]

This is one of the most awesome things I've ever seen!

[@the0mini0prutt]

reallly impressive! Good job

[@JordanMSeverns]

this is actually so beautiful

[@Palkia614]

do you think this guy has an n64 controller without an a button

[@milothemightyalouf569]

*Y* *E* *S*

[@awesum8r882]

No, he presses it 27 times in a 120 Star run

[@jeagous]

@@awesum8r882 in a few years he will do that shit with 10

[@linkVIII]

I wish I liked this game more so I could love this more

[@Really_Tall]

This is my new favourite ABC star! Amazing work! Unfortunately I've got a bad feeling that other TTC stars will need multiple 100 coin stars to be improved... good luck.

[@eathams]

No A button? No problem!

[@khanqueror665]

definitely my favorite abc video

[@fattesttitsincairo]

Half the time I don't understand what you're doing, why you're doing it and why it works. But it's just so entertaining.

[@TheKyshu]

THis is really cool! Do you happen to study or have studied computer science?

[@pannenkoek2012]

***** Yup, I study computer science!

[@marcussavina2726]

dude, how do you not work for Nasa or spacex

[@notfalcon]

4:12 mario flexing with his coins

[@lincolnpepper816]

You literally spend the whole time to make the star coin right there You are an achiever

[@sebablixa]

This is amazing

[@weigurde]

"Roll Into the Cage" more like "DR into the cage and perform VSC off the treadmill to get flung into the star" pannenkoek, you might have connections to a developer at this point

[@rexevans100]

So needlessly complicated.... I love it

[@NumberOneVillain]

All that work. All those frame perfect inputs. All to avoid a single A press.

[@solstlce4278]

Those are some dope acrobatics Mario has... He must have finally laid down on those mushrooms.

[@SOLAR_WillToWin]

This star is a great triumph of mankind.

[@mdudegamer]

Took me until the end of the video to realize that you had been cloning coins so you could go up using the coin star. Like, even after I saw it happen it took me a little while to realize the significance of the setup.

[@spudsbuchlaw]

Please change your Channel Name to Pnnenkoek2012 so I can save A presses when looking for your videos

[@stuff31]

"you gotta trust the process man"

[@LoogiTheDino]

I miss these non-commentated videos.

[@BlueBlur103S]

Luigi2012SM64 IMO, the commentated vids are actually better.

[@thatsnogood6413]

*HOO-HOO*

[@krakelakclassic]

Take a drink every time Mario says "hoo-hoo!" this includes when he's carrying the bob ombs up the spinny clock parts near the red coins

[@nyjel2813]

Imma need a commentary video of this

[@luolewis2376]

Mind=blown

[@SuperM789]

The entire a press playlist but every time he presses b it gets faster and every time he presses a it gets slower

[@greenknight9000]

When you want to rescue the princess but your controller breaks mid game

[@Fireblaze3127]

Genius

[@FreezerKing]

These are all TAS, right? I can't imagine pulling this stuff off without tools

[@lamofabull7844]

Yes this is tas

[@eddiemate]

I hope it’s TAS, because there’s like 2 stars that I can do without pressing A.

[@christopherchurch6022]

At this point I think the community knows more about this game than the devolpment team ever did

[@abcdefzhij]

I love how at the end you explain how you got that last by omg to appear out of. Ow here, but don't explain the far stranger stuff that happened with all those coins and fireballs. Lol

[@connfdm]

thats because if youve watched two of pannens videos you know exactly what he did and why he did it

[@its_4life]

4:50 OMG! MOM GET THE CAMERA! .................... but seriously, using a star to get to a higher platform? GENIUS!

[@vinylpizza]

You are insane bro

[@ilovethelegend]

Ya know, I think my favorite thing about nintendo games is that they don't break easily, but when they do it's SPECTACULAR.

[@StaticOverTheRadio]

Man, that's the weirdest looking owl I've ever seen

[@TylerKehne]

yeaaaaaah

[@austinrhodes3311]

You are a madman

[@lincolnpepper816]

Yo, i told pannenkoek to get RItC in 0 A presses and he ACTUALLY DID IT! The crazy mad man!

[@PuReTriNiTyHD]

What a pain in the ass for just a broken A-button. I think I'd just replace my controller

[@TheGalacticVoid]

Doesn't entering the level require an A press?

[@heave-ho6864]

The Galactic Void Yes, technically. But he means no A presses once he enters the stage.

[@pannenkoek2012]

The Galactic Void Yes, I will have pressed A to get into the TTC painting, but these videos are concerned with what happens inside the course. You see, the A press to enter the painting is taken into consideration elsewhere in the calculations, so I deliberately left it out of the video so as to not cause confusion.

[@TheGalacticVoid]

pannenkoek2012 What about ground pounding?

[@craftydrac3883]

The Galactic Void pounding is B, so go play the game and stop being a smartass

[@TheGalacticVoid]

CraftyDrac Ground Pounding is A and then Z. Get things right when you try to offend someone or don't say anything. My intention was to state that nicely, not to attempt to hurt someone.

[@ITGAlex]

wow, this is incredible. do you think it'd be possible to do a 70 star run without pressing A or are there certain spots in the castle area where you have to?

[@ITGAlex]

ITGAlex I'm assuming it's impossible to get into either tick tock clock or rainbow ride, so you'd have to get 70 stars elsewhere.

[@pannenkoek2012]

ITGAlex A 70 star run currently takes 1 A press. You can read more about it in the ABC Routes link at the bottom of the description.

[@ollieoniel]

Is there a way to do the parallel universes in the z direction by building up speed through the roof or floor?

[@MegaDardery]

pannenkoek2012 Does the new instant release glitch eliminate the need to perform the Hat in Hand glitch in any situation? and would this glitch work, say by using the momentum of the cork box? Would the glitch work on any grab-able object if you use a little bit of backward speed (say, by sliding down a slide)? If we could do this glitch to MIPS, would we be able to skip the 30 Stars door? This glitch needs an explanation video soon!

[@pannenkoek2012]

I'm not aware of any hat-in-hand instances that this trick saves. Usually, I use the hat-in-hand glitch to place goomba clones in specific locations, but the instant release cannot be used with clones, so it couldn't replace those. I don't know what you mean by "using the momentum of the cork box". The instant release works with all grabbable objects except for bowser. So it does work with MIPS. And doesn't MIPS already save the 30 star door? It's not like you would need this glitch to do anything about it.

[@MegaDardery]

I thought you had to be pushed off the edge to perform this glitch, also I forgot that moving MIPS to the 30 Stars door already doesn't require an A press. If you could do this glitch to grab a corkbox, just for the record, would it be possible to do that in Top of the Fortress star instead of the Hat In Hand glitch? For the momentum thing, I meant throwing the box and then standing in front of it so it pushes you off the edge and then you can do this glitch. Also why can't you do it on Bowser?

[@pannenkoek2012]

You don't need to be pushed off a ledge. You just need to dive into an object while also diving into a wall. So the setup is a bit precise, because you need to be facing a wall while also facing an object next to that wall. So you could place MIPS next to a wall and then run towards the wall next to MIPS and dive into both MIPS and the wall at once. The instant release glitch cannot be used to throw an object, since Mario bonks his head. Whereas the Top of the Fortress strat involved specifically throwing the box. This means it can only be used to spawn something at the HOLP laterally, but at Mario's current height. And I guess grabbing Bowser is just programmed differently.

[@MegaDardery]

ah too bad, I would definitely love to see him in the air for a little bit :P

[@TylerKehne]

Megadardery the benefit of instant release is basically doing HOLP tricks w/o hat-in-hand, so there's no benefit to using this glitch if hat-it-hand is already possible on that stage.

[@apotato1679]

Yo dood, is there a function in the Emulator that can show the button inputs you pressed? Just suggesting an idea where you could record the inputs that were used and put it in the video to show the newcomers that no A presses were used in the harm of making this film. 😆👌

[@shady8045]

If he ever makes a full 120 star no a press tas I really hope he streams it

[@porgy5978]

Everytime I watch one of these videos I realize that everything that I've ever done was just the lightest foreplay for this game. Speedrunners manage to do proper foreplay but then there's Pannen who just fucks this game like no other could.

[@chlorobyte]

also how mario said hahahaha when he got the star W flipped m8

[@JustAHat]

2:18 nice

[@ocarinaofmasks2241]

Just wondering Pannen, but will a full 120 star no A press speed run ever be possible?

[@pannenkoek2012]

Ocarina of Masks You mean collect ALL 120 stars with no A presses? Well, it's not looking too likely, but we're trying!

[@DrDestructo64]

Ocarina of Masks If that includes outside of the levels, then there is no foreseeable way. Unless they find a way to enter levels directly, skipping the stage select screen.

[@ocarinaofmasks2241]

PlasmaLink You can input start in the star screen.

[@DrDestructo64]

Whoops, looks like I'm a dummy

[@captainobvious9201]

I like your profile pic xD

[@asliuf]

THAT'S CRAZY!!!

[@teamtinyturtle9103]

*1:48* Mario thinks he's Santa Claus.

[@chlorobyte]

Wait, so the instant release doesn't update the HOLP? Interesting... Indeed interesting...

[@ben_ben_ben724]

This is what happens when MacGyver plays Mario64

[@BadPotat0]

Just curious, can you enter the Rainbow Ride stage without A press?

[@TylerKehne]

BadPotato no

[@chlorobyte]

Tyler Kehne unless you guys find a super speed glitch in the endless stairs room

[@MrDave1502]

1:50 "we can start cloning coins, yay!"

[@NowItsInTheTrashCan]

I really, really like this meme

[@TheKeitaNobodyAskedFor]

What meme

[@tctrainconstruct2592]

How about entering TTC? Is it possible to do that w/out pressing A? (that would save a LOT of A presses, compared to a single star)

[@eduardolarrymarinsilva76]

Why is the holp here set differently from where you placed in TTM,on your Stomp on the the Thowmp video?

[@ProfessorHeavyTF2]

HOO HOO HO HO HO HOO HOOHOOO

[@Popcornio]

I liked the part when Mario said "Hoo-hoo!"

[@jeremiaholszewski1844]

This is my favorite ABC star (To the Top of The Fortress and Bowser in the Sky with red coins 0x come close)

[@Packers909]

This video would be nice to have a commentary for as well. A lot of crazy shit going on here.

[@dioglois3240]

Damn it, I always hate when I accidently complete 3 stars with 0 A presses instead of 1

[@littleyoshifan]

what about the one a press to select exit course? or can you do some other crazy weird manipulation glitch to bypass that?

[@littleyoshifan]

ItsRainbow - Gaming Cat oh ok

[@xXFreiheit89Xx]

4:46 ... "no... it's not scotty, who beamed you up?!" :-P

[@NarokathCrimzonAE]

Before I watch this video, we need to talk about parallel universes.

[@MF104m]

wow!

[@nukley]

i understand im probably commenting on the wrong video but i just need help with the timing of cloning when i go to put down a bob-omb and go to pick it back up it explodes i cant run in time to pick it up and even when i press the button immediately after throwing the bob-omb it still lands and blows up and the cork block when i ground pound with it in my hand (it falls down does not slide) i make sure to stand right next to it and while its flashing i always get it too early or too late

[@romajimamulo]

+RedstoneFreakCrafter go to the science of cloning

[@nukley]

+Romaji it dosent really help me at all it isnt telling me when to grab it, how long to wait to grab it, or anything like that it isnt specific eunogh for me

[@romajimamulo]

maybe the art then?

[@CanoTheVolcano]

Hey Pannen, what are your opinions on SM64DS

[@jan050375]

0:51 this was the most amazing thing i've ever seen. 1:30 ok never mind.

[@Frikiman_H]

But everything changed when the fire nation attacked.

[@jangers2222]

how do you get through the 50 star door to the third floor with only 47 stars without using BLJ's :S

[@jazz3244]

This dude coulda saved a while lot of time if he just pressed a

[@phanpy1005]

In that coin segment it sounds that Mario is saying "butthole!"

[@hats1642]

in conclusion: hoohoo