SM64 - Stop Time for Red Coins & Reenter TTC - 0x A Presses

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pannenkoek2012

pannenkoek2012

Күн бұрын

I collect the star Stop Time for Red Coins and then reenter Tick Tock Clock using 0 A presses.
Normally, it takes a full A press to enter TTC, because the painting is so high off the ground. However, using a glitch exclusive to the Japanese version, it is possible to exit TTC in such a way that Mario can reenter the painting without using an A press. This glitch (which we'll call spawning displacement) has been known for a while, but this is the first time it's being used for the A Button Challenge. This means the final 120 star ABC run is now planned to be done on the Japanese version, in order to make use of this A press save.
So how does spawning displacement work? You see, the game keeps track of the object Mario is standing on, and updates Mario's position each frame in accordance with how that platform is rotating or translating. We can exploit this by having Mario leave a course while on a moving platform, either by collecting a star, dying, or exiting out while on it. The game makes a mistake and remembers the platform Mario had been standing on for one frame into the new area Mario appears, thereby applying one frame's worth of rotation/translation to Mario's position. This can result in unusually large displacements, larger than any frame of movement achievable while standing directly on the platform. This is because when the game updates Mario's position, it takes his NEW position into consideration. And from a geometric perspective, rotational displacement will be magnified proportionally to how far away from the pivot point Mario is. In other words, the further away from the platform Mario spawns, the greater the displacement may be. Of course, the speed of the rotation is also equally important.
Eventually I'll make a formal video about the spawning displacement glitch, but in the meantime I made a short video to illustrate the underlying geometry: • Spawning Displacement ...
Now, you may be wondering if we can do something similar for other stars in TTC. Unfortunately, the answer is currently no. The red coin star is unique in that it loads during play, unlike all the other stars that instead load right when you begin the stage. That means it's the only TTC star that can be cloned (other than the 100 coin star), allowing us to collect it wherever we choose. In this case, I collected the star on a spinning platform that caused Mario to spawn lower than normal when coming out of the TTC painting, causing him to land on top of the clock. Note that I have also tried to use the AB kick to do something similar with the Get a Hand star, but to no avail: • TTC Re-Entry Using Han...
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9 жыл бұрын
I dont know why this videos dont have thousands and thousands of views, because this is brillant. You, Ms/Mr Pannenkoek, deserve your own place in the history of the videogames. Thank you very much
@OblivionWalkerVerified
@OblivionWalkerVerified 9 жыл бұрын
Rubén Sick Stick it's a Mr
@Gogetaa
@Gogetaa 8 жыл бұрын
It now has 10k ;)
@alisiaale565
@alisiaale565 4 жыл бұрын
When Mario holds a star in his hands, he looks so cute! 😍
@renakunisaki
@renakunisaki 9 жыл бұрын
Some sort of input display would be great for these.
@ddnava96
@ddnava96 8 жыл бұрын
You just need to watch his previous videos. I mean, the explanatory videos. If this were the first of his videos I've watched I would simply not understand anything. After watching his videos I totally understand what's going on here
@Hextator
@Hextator 8 жыл бұрын
Given Rena's talent I'd be surprised if they didn't have a similar grasp on the video, so I think the point they're trying to make is that indeed, an input display would be cool enough to be worth showing even for those of us who "totally understand what's going on here".
@Ceafto2007
@Ceafto2007 4 жыл бұрын
Repeat all possible inputs until the footage looks exactly like this one
@brianpso
@brianpso 9 жыл бұрын
Finally this technique gets some use! It's a shame you can't use it on the other stars for now :/
@RarefoilB
@RarefoilB 9 жыл бұрын
You know, Japan may usually get the uncensored game, but we get the more polished game.
@patrickbateman5298
@patrickbateman5298 8 жыл бұрын
+RarefoilB "more polished" is dragon for "be gentle Treehouse"
@Jadimation
@Jadimation 8 жыл бұрын
@Ohrami You only really like it because it's different. Hey, I do too. But you gotta admit, the US version had more features. It had a more engaging painting, more common voices, and the red coins now increase in pitch. It had more features. I still do prefer the japan version since it's something new, after playing the US version all these years.
@Ohrami
@Ohrami 8 жыл бұрын
Jad Red coin sound increases in pitch but the old one sounds a lot cooler and more powerful? I don't know, sounds a lot better to me, though. And JRB's painting still looks a lot nicer to me; sure, it doesn't fit the stage as much, but it looks better.
@Jadimation
@Jadimation 8 жыл бұрын
***** Congratulations! You have an opinion on the internet. Doesn't mean the whole game is worse for everyone ever.
@Ohrami
@Ohrami 8 жыл бұрын
Jad Congratulations! You are either illiterate or you make a lot of unreasonable assumptions. You should probably assess this character trait of yours, as it is a blatantly negative one.
@xmario3sonicp785
@xmario3sonicp785 9 жыл бұрын
Still lovin' Super Mario 64!
@Erokingu
@Erokingu 9 жыл бұрын
I wait of all my heart to this 120 stars TAS
@PsychicH2O
@PsychicH2O 9 жыл бұрын
How many a presses is 120 now? I'm remember any% (70) being 1 A for the bitfs pole but I lost count of how many 120 needed.
@njijnji
@njijnji 9 жыл бұрын
Syntax 44 according to docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AnJCRPC09lDtdExpNjdwU3JCb1NSUnNrZzh1dEdMc2c&usp=sharing#gid=0
@groszak1
@groszak1 7 жыл бұрын
29
@usualunusualkid7149
@usualunusualkid7149 4 жыл бұрын
A full 120 star run takes 19 presses currently
@alarioderpp_control000aa9
@alarioderpp_control000aa9 3 жыл бұрын
Still 19.
@randomdude9369
@randomdude9369 2 жыл бұрын
16 now, thanks to pannens new saves posted on uncommentatedpannen. Also if you haven't already you should watch Bismuths history of the A button challenge, it was made in collaboration with pannen and it is a great series explaining the A press saves.
@FUZxxl
@FUZxxl 9 жыл бұрын
Congratulations! This is super cool. Now, if you just figure out how to skip that elevator...
@CeeSZee
@CeeSZee 9 жыл бұрын
how do you find this stuff? xD thats insane
@pannenkoek2012
@pannenkoek2012 9 жыл бұрын
CeeSZee Bounce ideas back and forth with the other ABC members!
@PlushSM64
@PlushSM64 9 жыл бұрын
CeeSZee This was pretty old tbh :)
@groszak1
@groszak1 7 жыл бұрын
Did you ever do research on other mario games (sm64 hacks, ds, mario party, super mario bros, ...)? Did it ever give you any sort of knowledge of SM64?
@jongyon7192p
@jongyon7192p 9 жыл бұрын
I presume you already tried using the displacement to end up in stage15 or the secret cloud stage from exiting TTC? Worth asking I guess.
@pannenkoek2012
@pannenkoek2012 9 жыл бұрын
DeRockProject & the Attack of the Really Long Channel Name The instances of spawning displacement we've found don't go nearly far enough for that :/
@jongyon7192p
@jongyon7192p 9 жыл бұрын
+pannenkoek2012 Dang. Thanks for the response! I guess this trick will only be used to save one A. At least for a long while.
@SuperNuclearBoss
@SuperNuclearBoss 8 жыл бұрын
pannenkoek2012 why do the red coins sound different
@Hextator
@Hextator 8 жыл бұрын
If you followed his other videos you'd know that the Japanese version of the game is the only version that allows the spawning displacement technique he's using to get back into the course without pressing A (by not spawning on the floor below the painting), which is also the version of the game with those obnoxious red coin sounds.
@MariaNicolae
@MariaNicolae 7 жыл бұрын
Also, for the reverse idea, entering TTC 0x using RR, I did the math, and the best spawning displacement (The magic carpet spinning in the big house) only goes ~575 units, nowhere close to where we'd have to get to enter TTC after exiting RR.
@ilikecreeper331
@ilikecreeper331 9 ай бұрын
TTC IS A PRESS FREE LETS GO BABY
@edwardblow8684
@edwardblow8684 8 жыл бұрын
+pannenkoek2012 I realise that none of the other stars in the level are clonable, but are any of the platforms in the level which move clonable, (not just the red coin platforms), and if so would a clone of the platform still move. Could you then stick a clone underneath the star, then as the clone is moving pick up the star, and then reenter TTC with no A press?
@pannenkoek2012
@pannenkoek2012 8 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately no. There are no platforms that are cloneable in this course. Furthermore, Mario can't stand on clones, so they couldn't be used as a stepping stone to reach higher points. However, clones of platforms do have an interesting usage which we call platform release displacement, demonstrated here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/o3qvfah8qtOMb5o
@edwardblow8684
@edwardblow8684 8 жыл бұрын
+pannenkoek2012 I see. Thanks for the reply. Just thought I'd throw ideas out. Love what you do by the way!
@pannenkoek2012
@pannenkoek2012 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@InviZ.
@InviZ. 7 жыл бұрын
A course enter is a course enter. You can't just say it's a reenter
@paytonsamuelsbackupchannel9353
@paytonsamuelsbackupchannel9353 9 жыл бұрын
Why do the red coin sound effects sound different?
@Metaknightkirby2
@Metaknightkirby2 9 жыл бұрын
***** Because he's playing on the Japanese version.
@Gusilus360
@Gusilus360 9 жыл бұрын
Does anyone have the link to the ABC spreadsheet that pannenkoek is working on?
@TylerKehne
@TylerKehne 9 жыл бұрын
Gusilus360 Check the ABC playlist.
@computercat8694
@computercat8694 8 жыл бұрын
Now we need a Japanese run and an American run. :(
@groszak1
@groszak1 7 жыл бұрын
Japanese run uses a Japanese only glitch, while American run doesn't use it and uses more A presses.
@gotenks5563
@gotenks5563 4 жыл бұрын
Dafak are you doing with the game, man?? This shit is crazy
@fofolp1213
@fofolp1213 9 жыл бұрын
How can this rotating platforms change the direction?
@chlorobyte
@chlorobyte 9 жыл бұрын
FofoLP it rotates mario too noob
@chlorobyte
@chlorobyte 9 жыл бұрын
***** I said it rotates mario too
@Varooooooom
@Varooooooom 8 жыл бұрын
+Benedani Way to be a douchebag and not answer the question lol
@chlorobyte
@chlorobyte 8 жыл бұрын
Rotating platforms rotate mario too
@fofolp1213
@fofolp1213 8 жыл бұрын
i forgot about the random mode
@timonriedel5897
@timonriedel5897 7 жыл бұрын
Of Course. Thats how i would do that!
@Vorago_
@Vorago_ 9 жыл бұрын
Very impressive!
@rogersasanka3408
@rogersasanka3408 Жыл бұрын
Only on JP version
@PlushSM64
@PlushSM64 9 жыл бұрын
Finally :)
@itissomeone1
@itissomeone1 9 жыл бұрын
Where were you
@chlorobyte
@chlorobyte 9 жыл бұрын
nuckerinos he is using an emulator dood
@ShanaUnite
@ShanaUnite 9 жыл бұрын
are you a wizard?
@pannenkoek2012
@pannenkoek2012 9 жыл бұрын
ShanaUnite I won't know till my 11th birthday!
@OblivionWalkerVerified
@OblivionWalkerVerified 9 жыл бұрын
pannenkoek2012 hhaha i got it
@Kebabrulle4869
@Kebabrulle4869 7 жыл бұрын
pannenkoek = angry 9-year old confirmed
@nuleumannemmletenet823
@nuleumannemmletenet823 Жыл бұрын
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