Small Updates with Big Impacts in R5C Firmware 1.0.7.1 - EOS R5C Tip 31

[@Mintyseden]

This is much better than reading the manual. Because then I know I haven’t missed anything important. Thanks

[@christoffelbotha2087]

Well Said, I agree 100%

[@Jason_Connolly]

Thanks heaps for the update on the update hahaha. I really enjoy your attention to detail of your content and especially that you describe with good explanation how settings work. Where you are unsure, you're honest and don't fluff around with an assumption. Keep up the great work, its really appreciated.

[@marcosuozzi]

I own the VR Lens and the correction profile for RAW files in the EOS VR utility is a huge one for me. Save‘s a lot of work when you you have a lot of CA in the frame. Thanks Canon!!!

[@JaroslavBengl]

I like the scene of being angry on focus point reset 😀😀😀

[@PointsInFocus]

That's probably toned down from how I felt when I first got the camera. I think I almost threw it across the room on a couple of occasions I was frustrated by the different UI.

[@JaroslavBengl]

@@PointsInFocus You are not alone with frustration, Jason, some things, eg. Wifi or remote control are hard to believe till today 😔 But even with those flaws I like the camera a lot ✨Thanks so much for all your wonderful tutorials and in-depth lessons ✨🙋🏻‍♂️👍🏻

[@PointsInFocus]

WiFi is a problem one way or another. When it's not there, people complain; when it's not perfectly stable and super fast, people complain. I tested the WiFi on the R5 (both the R5 and R5C use the same chipsets), and it's not great. At best, I can get 50 Mbps from it on my network (Unify UAP7s, gig-e backhaul, my iPhone 15 pro can git 650/250 Mbps on the same network). While that's enough for remote control and a low res live view feed, it's not really enough to stream any kind of high quality video without having problems. Even streaming 8 Mbps, there's still the potential for dropped frames and that's not really acceptable on a pro level camera.

[@NaikMedia]

That re-centering the focus box feature should never be understated - huge update for me!

[@NaikMedia]

Also Normal, Slightly Thick, and Thick as a denoting scheme should start being applied more universally 😂

[@MrShadowsports]

Hi Jason, You asked about the feature for the VR Utility v1.4. The firmware adds lens correction support for Peripheral Illumination and CA when using the RF 5.2mm VR lens.

[@PointsInFocus]

Thanks.

[@StarLightDotPhotos]

I can't wait to see what you think about the R5c compared to the R5 MK II. I am super conflicted on which to get.

[@PointsInFocus]

Unfortunately, we're both going to just have to wait for that. I don't get stuff from Canon, prerelease or otherwise. Plus I don't have the cash to just throw randomly at whatever camera gear suits my fancy (otherwise I'd have an R3, a C400 on order, and a Z9 and an A9-3 and some lenses for them). So I have to weigh my upgrades based on what I think makes most sense for me, and what I have the budget for. My bet right now is that I'll probably get an R5-2, but like everyone else, I'll be putting in an order and waiting for it to ship when it ships. If I had to guess, that means I won't have any hands on stuff until close to the end of the year.

[@agelesspics4556]

I think we're all in the same boat. I'm waiting for the new Canon. However, if nothing positive comes soon i will turn to the dark side and have the FX3.

[@StarLightDotPhotos]

@@agelesspics4556 Noooooo =(

[@bryanthompson567]

the joystick on the c70 was also a button, but it could a pain to operate if you weren't pressing directly down. Any angle in the press would not give the desired effect - something easy enough to do in run and gun or gimbal work.

[@PointsInFocus]

For some reason it totally slipped my mind that the C70, and actually I think all of the cinema cameras have a joystick on the back of the grip. For some reason, I had it in my head that only had a joystick on the screen. My bad.

[@photofilmproduction6372]

Thank you very much for the good video!! Looking forward to test the AF Frame thickness. l would like to have the possibility to change color on it, as well. I guess it still can be difficult to see if the frame hit were you want. For example when you want eye focus to work hit the eyes on a person a bit fare away.

[@Twobarpsi]

Definitely a nice update!

[@CoreGamingProject]

The minor update is the major one xD lens correction support for Peripheral Illumination on my Dual Fisheye. Missing now are metadata to better stabilize the R5C espécialy for VR 180° recording.

[@pauloliveira1989]

Updated my camera today. I see some improvements on EIS - look's like it doesn't follow faces movement anymore.

[@botvidsson]

BIG thanks

[@jacy123]

Good to know! Thx!

[@DavidKfilmmaker]

My dating preferences. Thick. Slightly thick. Normal.

[@VishalKumar-fy9lk]

thanks😊

[@issacissac9861]

This is driving me mad, after updating the to this new firmware I get a halo effect when recording VR. I hope Canon looks into it

[@PointsInFocus]

If you haven't contacted Canon support (or CPS if you're a member) about that I would strongly encourage you to do so. That doesn't sound like it shouldn't be happening.

[@ChrisSpiegl]

Thai is great news. Now, if only they’d give us settings presets and auto shutter speed. 😩

[@PointsInFocus]

Presets would be really nice. And it's not like it's something that wouldn't also be useful on the rest of the cinema camera line either.

[@PizzlesTechTime]

I just updated my firmware and I'm off to Philadelphia to meet Jared Pollin from fro photo

[@kevin-haggerty]

Did Canon pull it from the site? Just checked for the firmware and it isn't showing. Filming a wedding today and would have updated.

[@PointsInFocus]

No, it's still on Canon USA's site. Are you using a Mac? If so and it's detecting as Mac OS Sonoma V14, you'll need to change that to Ventura V13 for it to show up.

[@kevin-haggerty]

@@PointsInFocus thank you sir! First time I’ve ever had an issue searching or updating. Thanks again!

[@cgustaff4807]

Link to the download would be helpful. Thanks for the review.

[@PointsInFocus]

Fair point. I've added that to the description.

[@TheJudeza]

Still no decent frame rate bumps, a DJI pocket can film at 240FPS in 1080p we really should be able too as well :(

[@kingmitch68]

Hi Jason, after updating to the latest firmware on the Canon R5C, did it reset any of your user inputs or custom buttons? (I just wanted to ask because the last update reset all my inputs and custom buttons)

[@PointsInFocus]

Unfortunately, yes, it does. All of the cinema EOS updates reset all of your menu and custom picture file settings (though for some reason, the photo mode settings don't get reset). Canon, and I, always recommend backing up your menu and custom picture settings to an SD card before upgrading the R5C's (or any other Cinema EOS camera's) firmware. I had originally mentioned that in this video, but ended up cutting that and the how to do it out and into a separate video for time purposes.

[@MrShadowsports]

@@PointsInFocusHi Jason, Canon recommends against applying a back up made from a previous FW on to v1.0.7 1. This is specifically called out in the last paragraph of the firmware upgrade procedure. This is because of the new menu options and button mapping features added to this firmware update. You also cannot downgrade to a previous version of FW once 1.0.7.1 is applied. Your videos are always good BTW. I appreciate that you've stuck by the body for the last couple of years as I have.

[@PointsInFocus]

@MrShadowsports, the relevant section of the release notes reads: "- After the firmware update has been performed, the camera's menu settings will be reset. *It is recommended that, prior to starting update operations, users save their menu settings as settings data to an SD card, separate from the one that will be used to carry out the update.* This saved data can be loaded into the camera and the settings can be changed after the update has been completed. For further information on this, please refer to the section in the unit's Instruction Manual titled 'Saving and Loading Camera Settings.'" What you can't do is load a save made with 1.0.7.1 into a camera running an older version of the firmware.

[@MrShadowsports]

@@PointsInFocus Thanks for correcting me. I did mis-read the caution.

[@jdpst20]

A decent little upgrade but honestly expecting more. Typical canon to wait forever and then sprinkle us with something when it could be so much more. I’m an R5c user and doubt any type of camera is in the works to replace this any time soon so I would hope canon will keep this camera alive for some years to come. I would LOVE fringin AF lock tracking or face AF ON 4K 120P like the C70. Heck I’d even compromise and say make it with ONLY EXTERNAL power and I’d be happy at the very lease. I have AF in 8k60 with external power why can’t I just have AF 4K120. Let me be able to drag around the screen my wave forms. I think af in general could still use some improvement. Lastly what would also be insane but doable is either 4k canon RAW LIGHT internal or full sensor, 4k pro res raw with external or internal, and an open gate recording option like Fuji and Panasonic.

[@SoundboyGreg]

But still didn’t fix the wifi connection to smartphones 😅

[@PointsInFocus]

Unfortunately, I don't think that's ever going to happen. And I'm starting to wonder if it's a power issue. On the R5-2 Canon is saying that there will be reduced WiFi performance when you aren't using the new LP-E6P batteries, and on the R5C the camera can't do everything in the highest power modes (8K60 + AF without external power). In the WiFi grip, one battery provides power to the camera and the other is power for the WiFi. So power isn't a problem.

[@baobabstudio_DM]

Hello, i have the R5C, and after the update with the latest firmware, the camera 2 times stack and not response when i turn the switch on video or photo mode. I must take off the battery and put it again to work. Have anyone the same problem?

[@jeremyparkphotographer]

Mine crashes time to time and needs battery to be taken out. Can be scary on a job...

[@tildeathphotofilm]

Is anyone else not able to find the download for Mac?

[@PointsInFocus]

First, at least on Canon USA's site, it's listed under Mac OS Ventura. If it auto detected Sonoma, just change the OS to Ventura and it should show up. That said, I don't know why Canon bothers to make a distinction for the firmwares. The only difference between the mac and windows versions is that the mac version is distributed as a dmg image and the windows version is a ZIP file (which Macs have been able to read and decompress for ages now). Everything that's in that file , so the firmware and some PDF instructions, are platform independent so it doesn't matter what OS or version you download.

[@neilwebber1526]

I just updated and the base ISO has changed from 800-3200 to 400-1600 is this correct ??

[@PointsInFocus]

It sounds like your custom picture settings aren't set to Canon Log 3. 400/1600 is the base ISO setting for Rec709 Wide DR, HDR PQ, HLG and Canon 709.

[@neilwebber1526]

@PointsInFocus yes, I just checked. You're absolutely correct. Thank you for that.

[@GizmoMaxx]

Just a week prior lunch of the R5 ll & R1… Uuummm interesting 🤔

[@StarLightDotPhotos]

Why do you only want to put out videos once a week? Is it an algorithm thing?

[@PointsInFocus]

I'd love to put out videos more frequently. The problem is time. I do this completely solo. I write, test, shoot, edit, etc. every video that I produce. In most cases, especially when there's testing involved (which is more often than not, even if I'm just talking about what a setting does), it just takes time to get things done. For most of my videos, I'm amazed if I can turn something around from concept to final product in less than 4 or 5 days. This also goes to your comment about the misspelled word in the title card. Since I don't have a team, I have to do all the QC checks, and sometimes stuff slips through. I wish I was better at that, but sometimes stuff slips through. DaVinci Resolve doesn't help there either, as it has no built in spell checker, and it doesn't use the OS provided spell checkers (at least on windows). And anybody who's done their own proof reading knows that it's very hard to spot errors when you know what you were supposed to have written.

[@heynow2880]

Let's put out a cinema camera without Clog2. WTF??

[@EL-creator]

"Canon should add gyroscope metadata to better stabilize the R5C ."

[@StarLightDotPhotos]

You misspelled "expanded" at 2:21

[@PointsInFocus]

Thanks. Unfortunately, working solo that happens sometimes. And unfortunately, the only way I can fix it on KZbin is to delete this video and upload new one (losing the analytics, comments, and so on).

[@StarLightDotPhotos]

@@PointsInFocus Yeah sorry I wasn't trying to be a jerk. Just wanted to let you know. I really appreciate you making these videos.

[@pepsiq210200]

no lut on a playback for so many years is just comical. No C log 2 for R5C also. Canon definitely not listening to their costumers, and doing this on purpose. Why? No idea

[@PointsInFocus]

In at least the case of C.log2, it's not there the camera doesn't have enough dynamic range to warrant it. Moreover, using it on the R5C would produce lower quality files than either of the log formats that are there.

[@pepsiq210200]

@PointsInFocus from my own testing, i shot RAW and then render out two 10 bit files one with C log 2 and other with c log 3 (to make it more like simulation of what we would have if we shot it in C log 2 + 10 bit codec in camera) and then i use a lut on that files. And there's at least 1 stop in the shadows compared to c log 3.

[@PointsInFocus]

😔 I've tried to write this 3 times now.... I've done that test, I even redid it today after you mentioned just to see if I was remembering wrong. Once the two images are corrected for brightness and contrast (by adjusting the clog3 one), I get basically the same results. There are differences, but not that much. Granted this wasn't the most scientific or well controlled test, just shooting stuff in a dark corner of a dark room so I was working down at the bottom of the camera's range. But rendering the same raw file with the two different curves, bringing that into Resolve, and applying an CST to fix the log gamma curve doesn't seem like I should need a PhD in rocket surgery to do right. Then again, I'm open to the possibility that I'm doing something wrong. 🤷

[@legacymediatv526]

I'm sorry but the R5C is the worse camera I have ever experienced and owned. Not able to use WIFI without a handgrip purchase, obviously battery time is a joke, and having the v mount bat. makes it a tank to carry when this supposed to be a small hybrid. Im selling mine if anyone wants it .... hit me up

[@matt_berg_media]

That’s too bad. I love mine. I’ve had it for two years and made a lot of money with it.

[@legacymediatv526]

Are you able to connect the wifi without the extended grip

[@matt_berg_media]

I’ve never tried, WiFi isn’t part of my workflow personally.

[@matt_berg_media]

But I could see that being unbelievably annoying if it’s a requirement for you. That grip is wicked expensive.

[@csound55]

Best camera I've ever owned as it does everything I need and then some. I guess your experience makes a good case for renting first to see if works for you.