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[@a_pufferfish3468]

I swear everyday we get closer to ready player one

[@cnsmooth]

never will be a reality. If anything VR users are asking for games you can play whilst seated.

[@NormanReaddis]

It has more possibility than SAO

[@suckysuck2630]

@@NormanReaddis nerve gear would be dope af tho

[@NormanReaddis]

@@suckysuck2630 Yes but kinda dangerous tho

[@suckysuck2630]

@@NormanReaddis a risk im willing to take, how can you resist hot anime titties

[@abelgeorge8862]

Imagine lagging when you’re running

[@KoalazDank0420]

This is how we add pain to Virtual reality

[@Aerox90]

Player 2 sees player 1's character suddenly freezing *3 seconds later* Player 1 is laying face-planted on the ground 10 meters away xD

[@prowers2623]

@@KoalazDank0420 To be honest, there is a more complicated way to feel pain because of VR. Just get one of those prototype suits that makes you feel things like in player number one. I'm not joking, this exists but it's not on market yet, so just steal one.

[@newgamesrobloxYT]

P R O W E R S I’ve seen a video on one of those,imagine shooter games

[@Veesu]

@@prowers2623 Or we can wait till nervegear is released. It will probably not be exact like from SAO but it will be possible to read the nerve signals and send them to the computer and add pain and the feeling of touching stuff

[@dasokuazureflux]

Imagine a future that you need to do a T-pose to log in

[@TheJustinAlexander]

There's a few VR games that have you calibrate your height by doing T-pose, then arms down at side. It's always pretty funny to do haha

[@AkarshDg]

Trey Songz login.

[@emmy8548]

Yaaas

[@felipealarcon4622]

@@osawho always you have to do it always

[@clockworkNate]

Job simulator lol

[@smilealecxs]

5:32 Cat: Hmmmmm What could I knock over? *looks up* Cat: Ooh that's looks nice!

[@BipolarGremlin]

was looking for a comment to see if I was the only one who saw that hahaha

[@Ameteus]

+1 =)

[@pennylenny5]

Hahaha fact

[@lobster9667]

I saw that too

[@pozhar3287]

finally someone else who noticed that

[@rmdcade1717]

The level of access you've been given by these companies is so cool.

[@smartereveryday]

RMD Cade I agree!

[@jtleon7086]

RMD Cade ....it's called marketing, you'd be a business fool not to get free exposure. Here's a tip, don't buy any stock in this company

[@jordanholmes9943]

When compared to what Tested did with the same company, I would have to agree.

[@chesusjrist9733]

RMD Cade Its probably because he is polite, and enthusiastic. That'd be my guess, anyhow.

[@Friedrich-Wilhelm-1980]

yea but it gets them publicity and helps them find partners and funders

[@bsgaming3773]

5:28 Your cat, lol. Another great level, I mean video.

[@aprilhardy01]

5:33 “It’s pretty interesting.” *_*Cat slaps something off shelf_**

[@mr-ama4572]

AND REPAIRED IT WITH ONLY FLEX TAPE

[@shrek3714]

Damian Hardy g

[@ScrimmyBunglets]

Oh my god I didnt even see the cat when I first watched that part

[@liquidbraino]

Which is exactly how we know the earth isn't flat, cats would have knocked everything off the edge by now.

[@tf2whackyengineer]

I didn't find it truly hilarious until I heard the sound of the object before the jump cut.

[@George-oq4oy]

Omg we’ve basically got everything we need to recreate the oasis

[@dillontheogpug143]

No where close

[@George-oq4oy]

Actually if you think about it full body VR suits exist put them together then BANG

[@dkpsyhog]

The technology exists, but it is still experimental. I don’t think I need to tell you VR is still buggy.

[@omar619kamis]

@Mitchell Cohen its just laughable technology us fromnfuture will laugh

[@Indekai]

We just need multiplayer VR. and we can make the Oasis and Sao.

[@varkus_loves_grass8486]

Being able to record simultaneously in real life and the virtual world is a concept that just blows me away

[@walkerbrosfilms7077]

If they made this for mw2 we’d all be in hella shape

[@MattisF]

WalkerBrosFilms the real question is how would you do those sweet 360 noscopes then

[@kscully440]

Gifflar by jumping and 360ing

[@gavart4509]

WalkerBrosFilms True

[@MrVuckFiacom]

Kids today would get PTSD

[@louie9373]

Hella shape yo

[@loughkb]

The missing piece is some kind of kinetic sensing in the treadmill itself. If it could sense the slight shift in force when you begin to move instead of relying solely on the position of your body, they could close the gap.

[@warrickwalter426]

I was thinking that. Some sort of horizontal force sensors in each tread. That would get the feedback response time down a lot since the force is the 'intention' behind the eventual movement they currently track. I wonder if they could even integrate it into the driving mechanism, detecting the change in magnetic field in the motors - that all depends on how free-rolling the mechanics are though.

[@nipunasudha]

Yap this is cleaver

[@AugmentedSmurf]

If they used some technology akin to the sensory glove that Destin featured a month or so ago, they might actually be able to accomplish that. Because it could then constantly measure the pressure in any specific spot, and since humans are extremely telling in the way that they telegraph their movement with their feet, a computer should be able to process that very quickly and translate that to the treadmill.

[@Aspargel]

That's exactly what I thought as well: As soon as the positional trackers have something to track, it is already too late! ;-)

[@loughkb]

That's the direction I was going. Sensing the kickback from the motors. There will be a slight shift in current draw, just a little wiggle, but it should be enough to use. You'd have to distinguish between intended movement and simple balance correction that we do by shifting our weight. But hey, maybe that could be used as well. When you get ready to take a step, you shift your weight onto the foot you're going to step off with. So how about pressure sensors in a special shoe?

[@CaesarCapone]

I'm curious how their company is doing today, or say, how it was doing at the start of this year.

[@stargazer7644]

They still exist. They still don't have a product, but they'll be happy to build you a custom prototype.

[@IbakonFerba]

OMG, the Camera in VR is such a simple, but amazing concept! Never would have thought of that!

[@smartereveryday]

It blew my mind with its simplicity.

[@rancorusia]

checkout node gaming, they use it to add a mixed reality look to their videos, like they're actually in the game

[@ProjectPrologue]

Yeah, what @Rancorusia said, You should totally visit the CorridorDigital/StressLevelZero/Node squad, StressLevelZero made an avatar that works almost identical to your body movement (in unity as well!) and the same guys made a lot of videos of them playing games using a green screen and tracker cameras. I bet you could pass by and build/test an amazing Mixed Reality experience! ...With lots of interesting facts and backstory from you of course :)

[@IbakonFerba]

Wow, this comment got a lot attention really quickly ^^'

[@danfrederiksen1607]

The problem is not solvable for a small level platform without artificial gravity fields. The acceleration you experience running around on a field demands a large shift in position. But there is a way to almost fake it. You tilt the platform. Hang the entire device from the ceiling like a swing and power it. That way it can also simulate walking up hills. With fast enough actuation and control it will feel pretty close to real. But the static level platform cannot do it.

[@htennek1]

when the cat decides to be a cat and knock random things off of shelves at 5:33

[@richardolav]

How did the cat materialise in the shelf🙉🙉

[@friendlyoldpieceofapoppedp711]

Lol 😂

[@dinobotcypertron4602]

The cat is cute!

[@stan.rarick8556]

RickyTheBobby Gary Seven

[@metafis2490]

its in a cats job description to knock things off shelves...deliberately!.

[@angelapalermo9157]

I'd love to see an update on VR treadmills in general. Think of the impact this could have on physical therapy, making movement FUN!

[@Raymondgogolf]

Hi Angela I hope my comment didn't sound as a form of privacy invasion your comment tells of a wonderful woman with a beautiful heart which led me to comment I don't normally write in the comment section but I think you deserve this complement. If you don’t mind can we be friends? Thanks God bless you….🌹🌹🌹🌹

[@angelapalermo9157]

@@Raymondgogolf :) always good to have new friends. 🤗

[@Raymondgogolf]

@@angelapalermo9157 Yes that’s truth, You can text me with the gmail on my profile 🌹🌹❤️it’s nice meeting You 🌹🌹🌹

[@Raymondgogolf]

@@angelapalermo9157 Hi good morning Angela. Have been waiting to hear from You. Did You read my second message 🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹

[@angelapalermo9157]

@@Raymondgogolf actually, I don't think I can see your 1st message. Perhap it will show up when I get to my PC. "?"

[@NN-ut1rf]

This + valve index controllers + plus the wireless vive = welcome to the oasis

[@anytimeanywhere8870]

Have you seen the Vr glove they are working on?

[@HafJaf]

Yeah it like stops your hand from moving anymore when you pick something up

[@QuantumPlayz]

I saw an ad by Kat VR of this same thing but way better where you can sit down and there’s no motors to move you, kinda like one big ball bearing, now that would be the perfect oasis

[@jvniprbrry]

@@QuantumPlayz nah the real dream would be Teslasuit and Teslasuit Gloves with the Vive Pro with wireless

[@theunlicensedspycrab5348]

This + oculus quest + teslasuit = alternative reality

[@santoshnadar]

Meanwhile, 5:28 the cat experimenting with it's own 3d world..😋

[@_CARKENT]

I love how he doesn’t like to ask his viewers to do anything (ex. Donating, hitting the notification bell)

[@Paiskii]

That’s because he has 8 million subscribers the dude makes tons off revenue.

[@DheerajSukumaran]

he is asking those at 12:18.

[@TyronePenguin]

Dheeraj Sukumaran he says, “If I earned your subscription” not, “SUBSCRIBE IN THE NEXT 13.6743 SECONDS TO HAVE GOOD LUCK FOR THE NEXT 150.53 YEARS!”

[@GalluZ]

@@TyronePenguin yeah, that's the difference between legit/honest and clickbait/douchebag YTers.

[@TheCapitalWanderer]

@@Paiskii copyright join the server

[@Florida_boy]

5:28 10/10 best KZbinr award goes to that cat

[@DisabledSailor]

Depydawg lol rip to that joker toy

[@michaelpichahchy2489]

I was wondering what it nabbed...

[@harryferrett9420]

Why do I see a comment about what I am watching at that exact moment

[@yustikaslamet9432]

@@harryferrett9420 same

[@Jydholm]

5:28 i love that cat sitting in the background that almost hit something down

[@water7644]

I think he did.

[@Zurtron]

It did you could hear it

[@Zack_Zander]

Mauf Na, he succeeded

[@dupre7416]

This team seems really awesome. I like their enthusiasm and energy. They're like the opposite of tech bros.

[@thewatcher2305]

A possible solution for them is to make a little circle within that circle called "the dead zone" where it will not try to correct itself unless you go outside the "dead zone" therefore you can make small movements without worrying about it flying you back and sometimes over shooting it to the point where you're jerking back and forth.

[@NotActuallyBilly]

I had the same thought, it would eliminate all the minor adjustments that it has to make; it would also help to have a bit of a bigger Infinadeck.

[@tabemash0594]

Yeah First, I would assume it isn’t a solution, since it’s one of the first ideas anybody looking at this would have, including the actual engineers behind it. Second, you would leave the dead zone in just a few steps. Any motion of the floor you stand on causes the problem of feedback error. You could think of your solution as turning a point into a circle, and all you’ve effectively done is displace the action’s trigger, but once you pass it it is the same issue.

[@tabemash0594]

If it were larger, then maybe it is more feasible. The acceleration could be dampened and the circle would be more of a transition point that moves you much more slowly to the center

[@isaackoerner1599]

I agree. I think in general larger is better. If it was say the size of a football field just for purpose of theory, then it could just let you go and do whatever you want, and it is constantly moving you back towards the center with a very low acceleration, but the speed could still be high. So for example, if you started running, it would let you run for a second or two. Then if you kept running across the football field, it would slowly start the treadmill and over about 10 second, to the point where you don't even notice the acceleration, slowly bring the treadmill to a speed and direction opposite the one you are running at. With a bigger treadmill there is more room for error.

[@jaeknir]

Thats a good concept and maybe they could add eye tracking to help the program with the intent of movement the player has....

[@cleareragenda]

When you finally tell mom that gaming is an exercise

[@MikeBertelsenDK]

"Dude come to the flag at B!" - "Come on I'm at A! I don't feel like running 2km, I'm tired!"

[@torpedo996]

When the laziness of us comes into the video game world.

[@TheDobstopper]

That's really interesting actually. I wonder how video games would be designed to go along with this technology. Would they integrate walking into the games in a different way? Would the fact that the average person would be tired after only an hour or less mean we wouldn't see people bother to make games where you actually walk/run at a 1:1 scale everywhere anymore? My thought is that game designers would get creative. Like Trover Saves the Universe, where they literally made the character you play a person stuck sitting in a chair, and you have to teleport everywhere. I think something like Red Dead would work. You ride a horse most of the time and don't bother actually walking, but then get off and do a little bit at a time. That's an interesting creative challenge from the other side of this...

[@crewuniversevisuals3022]

@@TheDobstopper save this bro. Save this comment

[@tekknorat]

You would be more fit if you play a lot.

[@syrathdouglas1244]

I have a similar idea, but it’s more like a giant hamster ball surrounded by rollers. In any direction you walk the ball will roll that way while being kept in place by the rollers, so you aren’t sliding around but it still would have the same effect.

[@dubbleyou248]

I like how every time the guy he's interviewing explains something normally, expecting he doesn't know any terminology, and then he just suddenly pulls out a university math reference or something.

[@nycelaugh8492]

This is absolutely amazing, many blessings to the creators of this tech.

[@cameronn1124]

this has a lot of potential. Most people with VR systems dont have enough room to walk around in VR and they lose immersion greatly by teleporting around or by standing still and walking in game by pressing a button, This Fixes that and i think once this is upgraded enough this will be very common for VR users.

[@Ray2311us]

Oh Nah Nah it’s mostly about the exercise for me, So I can enjoy another world but also get the blood circulating.

[@abdallaartail1978]

I wonder if this will be the case, because then your gaming abilities will be directly reliant on your true physical abilities, i.e. a faster person will sprint around the virtual world while the slower has to catch up. They will have to include compensation for gaming scenarios. Real world endurance/fatigue will also play a role.

[@MasterAlcDessin]

@@abdallaartail1978 like a resistance to the treadmill? When your character is exhausted the treadmill encounters a resistance that slowers you down! Pretty smart!

[@sun650]

But I mean, yea sure lemme install something that takes up 2/3rds of my living room space lmao. I get your point though, maybe if there was a cheaper alternative it would be pretty kewl.

[@evanherriges4042]

And here I am still wanting to get a VR headset

[@STAG162]

to make a prototype of one of these would've been so groundbreaking. now it's actually there, and the refined version of this has already been popularised in Ready Player One (awesome movie for Gen X'ers btw), it's just a matter of diligent refinement of the system to make it butter-smooth like in the movie. it's now 2023, I'd love to see how far this emerging tech has come.

[@kieranedlin5730]

3:43 "So what your doing is tracking the movement of my hands..." * looks at hands * "...and tracking the direction of my feet" * looks at fe"DUUUUUUDE"

[@kelionpro9612]

I feel smarter each time I watch this channel!

[@irishbruse]

Role credits

[@buzzly108]

Roll?

[@bristolberryman4118]

Ive watched this channel once does that mean im dumb?

[@roflmfao4life]

Temporarily

[@MichaelSvenson]

5:33 HAHA the cat knocking the mini drone out of the shelf!

[@SirValiantIII]

"You do an integral you get a '+C' at the end so this is a boundary condition:" I think that's the nerdiest way to explain the ring you could've possibly come up with haha! Very nice vid.

[@azertyQ]

cringiest moment of the video because it isn't even that good of an analogy

[@bawkray]

The fact that you sync up by T posing is possibly the best thing about this invention

[@witherwolf3316]

5:28 The cat steals the show.

[@NoMoreForeignWars]

Forget the treadmill. What you need are actuators attached to boots so you can move in 3 dimensions.

[@johnglass343]

Bob Woodward by

[@heinyml]

Are you thinking something similar to how the pilots move in Pacific Rim?

[@NoMoreForeignWars]

@@heinyml never seen it. Got a KZbin clip from the movie?

[@gagne6928]

But then you would need a large space

[@johnvines4875]

Better idea

[@smeeessh]

I think most of the Oasis setups in “Ready Player One” have the player suspended with cables or a something you stand in front of. That’s probably why everything runs so smoothly. Correct me if I’m wrong.

[@ryancappo]

That might be a better solution anyways. It would allow you to fly like superman. If you have a bunch of bungee cords that can lift you and provide resistance, connected to a gyro system that can tilt you. Jumping might be a tough one still.

[@DoroteoVilla]

In the book, it's a chair suspended from a large arm which is bolted to the ceiling.

[@Neitenth]

@@DoroteoVilla Yikes. Anyone living on a top floor wouldn't be able to install that because their ceiling wouldn't be engineered for the load.

[@grimelemental301]

@@DoroteoVilla Thats actually only used when Wade was alone in his apartment, in the beginning there is an actual omni-directional treadmil like in the movie

[@auser9791]

I wonder if getting more body data could help smooth out some problems. I think that the relative knee position can give clues about the intent more quickly

[@matthiasvanogtrop1754]

I like that old man, he seems so nice!

[@ethansmith8216]

i remember watching this 3 years ago and it blew my mind. thats hasn't changed still

[@oscarhenry5884]

Did anyone else notice the cat grabbing something at 5:33

[@dieplease64]

Yee

[@tiannama8090]

YES

[@CreepyCat18]

yep

[@parasamm]

I’m afk in the green and I start walking. My ear: what is this unholy sound that is unholy

[@scene6289]

That's some *Ready Player One* stuff right there

[@reansantiago4852]

IDK :p ready player one persable or percable

[@scene6289]

I think its Parzival

[@Ziplock9000]

Well duh. It was in the movie

[@theprepaintedcanvis3452]

Give me two of em

[@alexanderpaulmarinas7471]

Well you just repeated what he said in the vid

[@omg_its_widow5624]

Ready player one slowly coming to reality lol

[@Thatrilla-43528]

Id say about 5 - 12 yrs to perfect but only ppl with money will be able buy cause all the tech ( talking about treadmill not actual oasis lol)

[@chipstep_games8391]

A possible solution to the whole pushback inertia stuff could be making the circle around the person more of a harness that keeps the person in one area. Then u could make the treadmill move in the way the person wants by possibly detecting shifts in weight and moving in the opposite way that the weight is shifting.

[@fluffypinkpandas]

Now wait. What if the solution was make the ring hip-tight.

[@mikejung3908]

Malicious Muppet you couldn’t do that, there would be no time for the computer to anticipate your center of mass, the rollers would have to stop instantly or take off instantly, you are taking away its fail safe as it were, because remember it can’t predict what you want to do.

[@midoelghawaby825]

Actually what about the opposite. Like making the circle wide enough that the dead zone is big enough to stop you without correcting its position

[@clickdragon3498]

There is on its called Omni but it works with special shoes instead of a treadmilll

[@fluffypinkpandas]

@@midoelghawaby825 YES

[@joshhoff2923]

That would help you generate power to assist with acceleration by youd have to figure out a way to rotate your body without rug burning a hole through your abs

[@eduardochavez82]

This is a million dollar idea and we’re seeing at the first stages of it! This like Mcdonalds before it was a thing

[@ahmedp800]

Guess you haven't seen *Virtuix Omni* before. Check some videos of it on KZbin.

[@MrCazador123]

this has been on the market for 4 years now, it's just 2 expensive, and takes alot of room, that and that vr is not main stream yet, are the reasons why it won't go out just yet

[@Nozerone]

The problem with the Virtuix Omni is that starting off it's very hard on the body for those that don't work out much. Instead of your legs supporting your weight, it's all going into your hips and upper body as you try to move around and stay upright. Used one of those and by the time I reached 10 min out of my 15 min time I had to stop because my stomach and lower back was hurting way to much to continue. The great thing about this system is it allows you to move around with out putting the extra strain on your body like the Virtuix Omni's harness does. Virtuix Omni also requires special shoes that can easily slide on its surface, something most normal shoes can't do. Virtuix Omni is also very clumsy movement from yourself, and takes a while to get use to. Those videos where you see people effortless walking, or running, those are people who have been on these devices a lot.

[@ahmedp800]

Either way you need to get used to both. Virtuix Omni pretty sure will be cheaper because it is much less complicated with almost no moving parts, which means it should last longer. From what you said, it sounds like a good exercise :) The big issue with this one will always be lag, because it tries to predict your movements. And I am sure we agree that Lag in in VR is a showstopper.

[@ahmedp800]

BTW see KAT Walk mini also.

[@mrsharkva]

Ready Player One is becoming real sooner than we thought

[@shernader]

5:27 that's what we are really after. In the background. My that cat is legendary.

[@atlas6923]

@Marzel parcel Same!

[@xDrexelx]

In my mind, the end-game for this sort of technology will culminate with some sort of brain scanner that can detect the electrical signals heading toward your legs and move the deck accordingly to those impulses. It's crazy to think we may not be that far away from this. Also, I can see a new type of business cropping up. The virtual gym. I know I'd be much more likely to hit the gym regularly if I could be playing a game while working out.

[@gandalfthegreen1827]

I agree especially when you consider the military uses for such a technology. Also consider how such direct brain control would improve interfacing with lots of devices. Advanced robotic prosthetic could be controlled by the brain like a real arm. Gone would be the days of mouse, keyboard, and touch screen.

[@pavlazelena1929]

So you're saying sword art online

[@ReadTheMusic]

The solution to that problem is to put a ton of pressure buttons to the treadmill itself. Then program the treadmill so it works independently. With the data given by the pressure buttons I believe they can make it at least 80% accurate in relevance to the change in velocity of the person.

[@joobus-stoobus-magoobus]

I feel like a ball-bearing mechanism would be more efficient

[@zdawg3439]

Josh Orton how you gonna balance on a ball ??

[@joobus-stoobus-magoobus]

Z Dawg no, like a bunch of small ball bearings

[@zdawg3439]

Josh Orton yeah but they won't be able to place sensors on it , other than that yeah good idea

[@janosskublics7438]

You good?

[@fernandomartin4141]

@@zdawg3439 Probably doing something like e-ink, but instead of controlling the little balls, they do the input. Smaller balls will give you more "resolution", at the expense of higher costs.

[@Sam_on_YouTube]

So if it can pull your feet out from under you, I could imagine a future itteration where you have a harness and a much bigger floor and play a fighting game (using haptoc gloves, of course). You hit someone and you feel the pressure, but not enough for pain. The other person falls backwards and down, but lands softly with the wires. And if you have good enough balance not to fall over, that would mean you are taking the punch better. It could be quite awesome. Not so much for home use though. You would need a lot of space and a lot of gear.

[@TheSwordcluts]

The future is bright.

[@wintermiller4845]

Arcades coming back with these things maybe?

[@TheAkashicTraveller]

Someone's already doing it. They're using an exoskeleton rather than a treadmill.

[@oregonhoney9106]

what about having skates instead of shoes...or sloping it and making it like a ski slope, complete with jumps and swerves. No more wrenched knees, or lift tickets, or snow required. Lots of possibilities. But as with everything else coming out, what sort of nefarious uses will this be put to, and what steps are the designers taking to make sure their work doesn't end up being used for evil?

[@Beray02]

Fighting games would be harder, many of the areas this video hits on is the human perception compared to what's actually going on in the game. For instance feeling yourself go backwards when the tradmill corrects you to the correct position. Honestly i don't think we'll ever be able to really get VR fighting games to work, I could be wrong but I don't think it would be rewarding as a VR without pain and at the same time I don't think pain in a VR setting would be a turn on either. One of the advances from old school fighters to those nowadays is how to make the contact feel impactful, they do this in many different ways, however I think VR would take a step back in that category I would think.

[@mr_ducky_xd7265]

quick solution you take elastik bands on each side on the tred mill so 4 of them and when you are in the middle no one is elasted at its full potentual but if you go to much to one side the other side of the ring that has a elastik band will pull you towards it so that you never go to far to the side and that will make it so that the tred mill follow you more but it makes it better when you try to stop you just need to walk slower and you try to keep yourself in the middle.

[@samuelhirn1415]

3:30 *T-POSE*

[@itsyourboiguyintheblackhoo5269]

Needs more likes

[@vbgvbg1133]

*_DOS🅱️AYEETO 69 RELEASED BY MAGIC MOVING FLOOR_*

[@gdbeast6726]

ASSERT DOMINACE

[@xXKAROLXx03]

*_E_*

[@sneekydsnewchannel9705]

SMG4 much?

[@louivehh]

2:05 just cutting him off right there

[@Катюша-щ5ю]

T-posing to activate a mechanism has got to be the peak of human evolution

[@sofiasimms5989]

To make it truly comfortable to walk around and jump around without the fear of crashing into something, you need a huge round treadmill that completely surrounds you. Like a hamster ball that is sitting on top of a trampoline without the netting. So it doesn't actually go anywhere but it can spin any direction you want without you falling off or worrying about jumping and diving.

[@electro___]

This is giving off some real ready player one vibes. I thought these treadmills were only in my dreams!

[@ozkvitko2378]

Jbho

[@stellarphantasmvfx5504]

same

[@stargazer7644]

That's because the treadmill used in Ready Player One was built by this company.

[@DeDodgingEse]

The thing is too loud. Kills the immersion. Great prototype though.

[@225and]

@Ella Walker not if it's really or decently loud, then u have to increase ur volume for the headphones rip ur ears. i have to turn up my volume if there is background noise

[@Gamer_io1298]

you make one then

[@hypnotoad885]

It’s also retailing for 40-60 thousand dollars so I think that kills the immersion more. Imagine buying a fancy vr treadmill instead of a house, you would tiptoe on that thing.

[@matthewbartke4424]

They're probably worrying about the control first and then they'll deal with how loud it is. Priorities.

[@HolyKoolaid]

@@hypnotoad885 Who needs a real house, when you could have a VR one? 😁

[@branbosage2330]

I think it could benefit from pressure sensitive shoe soles, and/or pressure sensitive padding to determine direction of acceleration at the point of contact. Sure eliminate most of the lag.

[@bhaskar08]

Calculate the velocity of the person in the virtual world, and then use a neural network to predict the users velocity in the next time frame. If you give it enough data points it should be able to predict the velocity.. Then that velocity can be used to modify the speed of the treadmill.

[@typical8915]

I did not understand a word you just said

[@cennykaswell7499]

Bhaskar Bhardwaj neural networks arent always acurate

[@evolicious]

Everything you just said falls apart when gravity is involved. VR treadmills can never work (unless you are harnessed, like in RP1) with zero velocity and constant gravitational numbers. You also have the issue of confined movement, such as not being able to prone, which can be solved by a large omnidirectional treadmill. But we have solved these issues. Artificial locomotion is far superior, it takes a few weeks to train your brain to get used to it.

[@bilbo_gamers6417]

Could potentially be interesting, but you're assuming that a neural network could predict ahead of time what a human will do/how they will walk, which would likely require an awful lot of data.

[@cennykaswell7499]

Bilbo_Gamers well neural networks are completely comprised of predictive algorithms but the question is if they could create one advanced enough to predict the spontaneous movement of humans

[@DavidSchertz]

I think it’s really cool that you played it off like that janitor owns the company.

[@josephboyd3735]

2:59 Did anyone else see that?! What a hat trick.

[@AlbeeSoaring]

George is a genius. I used to work with him and I got to see the early conceptions of the infinadeck

[@Newzchspy]

AlbeeSoaring yes, but can he make a strong "business case" for the Infinadeck? That's where the real proof will be.

[@harleyme3163]

sorry but it sounds like an awefull lot could go wrong with it.... like that statement with the "oh it can go faster then you" and "it could pull your feet right from under you" dont sound very appealing or safe enough to get this thing on the market. I mean... its a cool idea, but sounds a lil wonky

[@AlbeeSoaring]

Cars are dangerous and can kill you very easy however people drive every day. There are some things they will have to figure out still but this is a totally new idea. The possibilities for simulated training with the combined VR aspect for soldiers and police officers is huge.

[@huntertorgerson7505]

but cars have a purpose. im willing to risk my life in order to go pick up groceries, because the alternative (walking to the store, or taking the bus) takes too much time and requires too much energy. But, I'm not going to risk injury and drop $3k-10k for a slightly better vr experience.

[@AlbeeSoaring]

That is totally understandable. This product isn't for you and that is fine.

[@NicholasNerios]

Sweet, can't wait until the finish product is mass produced

[@C3NT124LxT1M3]

This has to have been said already, but the completion of this tech would give a new meaning to speedrunning 🤣🤣 also, if the "virus" keeps us locked up long enough, Virtual Olympics!

[@PlanetXtreme]

It's been a year since this was uploaded, I'm sad there hasn't been anything made with the infinideck..

[@ruby_wired]

It's gonna take a long time, I'm sure. A year is nothing in the production cycle of emergent technology like this.

[@PlanetXtreme]

Richard Mullan so true though. I can’t wait for the future of VR gaming..

[@jayking3063]

THEY MADE YOU T POSE

[@Thedeath-xl2hk]

Nah he's just asserting dominance

[@utkarshraii]

8:55 the cameraman really got confused and looked behind 😂😂😂

[@GDoggProductions]

I honestly cannot imagine how hard this must have been to create! good job !

[@ConservativeJuggaloPodcast]

There are several companies making these now with different designs

[@shaneintegra]

Make the treadmill bigger... Give the hoop the ability to move to make recenter adjustments... And track the legs with sensors as that is always going to be your first trigger of movement besides the brain

[@cyberplague]

use the feet sensors as a form of anticipation or "intent" for the treadmill to move, that in combination with centering the users body in the ring should fix the lag or "inertia" issue

[@alfiemillersharp]

"That information is uploaded to the technology, which oh by the way, can't read your mind". Pair that with mind reading tehc Destin ;)

[@Alex-wq4bp]

3:50 *When you wake up stuck in an actual virtual reality Universe in the year 5020*

[@jacobclark6002]

Have a cut like from the edge of a large sphere, make the inside really slick; like soft socks on polished steel, that kind of slick. Give it that circular safety bar, and either have weight sensors underneath the run pad or this wearable tracking stuff determine your in-game speed and direction. It's not loud like a treadmill either.

[@NINJABDUDE]

In Vsauce's mind field s1e5, they have that cap that reading the signals your brain makes before you're aware of your decision. I wonder if this technology could be used to read the users intent.

[@jessesivonen3861]

Exactly. We can try to predict the brain waves. The publicly known demo is quite primitive. Few binary I/O. Interpreting scalar values from brain waves looks like a possibility on some level. We just need to have a program to assemble a bunch of connections and execute them really fast. (JK, it's hard, small probability)

[@spaghetticat3676]

It seems probable. This technology could be used to record several hundred examples of "intent to move" from EEG. Use machine learning to build an extrapolation profile. Once a good profile is generated, the AI can at the very least predict the moment you intend to move. Maybe it cannot read how you're moving. But it would be better than no input at all.

[@antopolskiy]

stop doing my job! lol

[@damian.gamlath]

wow we had the same thought - maybe we're wearing the cap and don't even know it O_o

[@MichaelPhipps01]

Yeah - technology like Emotiv or similar. Microsoft trained the kinect using machine learning, so I think adding the extra sensor to interpret "intent to move" brain signals would probably get this across the line.

[@Inaaa-]

5:27 DA CAT IS IN DA SHELF XD

[@FireyDeath4]

CAT

[@XouZ88]

It looks so real!

[@hope-yv1bw]

Please never use "da" and "dat" ever again.

[@Inaaa-]

squib please don’t tell me what word to use ever again

[@trippy6237]

Nathan Chao I saw that two it was Hularius I wonder if I noticed lol

[@michaelconstant4462]

I just got a crazy idea. What if polymagnets partnered with them to make a treadmill like this where the surface you walked on was magnetic, then polymagnets created a big as magnet inside it where they print out the magnetic fields that have the correct parts of the surface magnetized in a way that you can move 360 degrees in each direction. There wouldn’t need to be any upkeep on that part of the machine it’d basically work for forever

[@minkshaming]

PUT ON THE STRAPS YOU MADMAN

[@jericbernandino9618]

Do not use ring. Use object that will hold the player on his back/around the body to carry him. Then attached on plates under his feet to support the player on standing position. Then the plates can gather info of energy/inertia/Position and angles/Power/etc to know how should the player moves(like if he will raise his foor or put pressure on it.. Its like a bicycle. A pedal on the feet.... Like that.

[@trentwerner7398]

If the whole thing was bigger, itd be better. If you had more space to walk, it would be able to better cater towards what your doing smoothly

[@harrydepova8896]

I see the problem as much bigger than that. With a single track for the Y axis, if you move at an angle, the moment you stop it's basically going to try and trip you because one foot is going to be moved on the belt further than the other. I'm having a hard time imagining running being possible without some serious engineering.

[@woofspider330]

Then it wouldn’t be such a big deal if it’s not very center

[@marksmithwas12]

I don't know anyone who has a room in their house big enough for this thing, let alone if the thing was bigger

[@trentwerner7398]

Guys, yall misunderstanding me, and also that's a little bigger than a treadmill, I could still fit it in my apartment if it was bigger (as long as I could get it through the doorways at least). I am saying that it would still center, but even smoother (@Britten Oliver) due to more feedback. I also feel as though the reason you would trip when you stop, @Harry Depova, is due to your feet stopping and the belt stopping at the same time, essentially making you feel twice the force you normally would when you come to a stop from running. If there was a larger area for the pad to track you, It could be more gentle with those abrupt stops as it would have more room to slow you down. Other than that, it did seem as though they had pivoting, from the x and y axis belts, pretty well thought out so far.

[@NBSV1]

I agree. If it was a little bigger they wouldn’t need to keep you as centered. I think a lot of the issue is it bringing you back to center after you stop along with the winding up and down. With extra space they could let you get farther off center without it needing to bring you back.

[@wolffbringer1551]

Oh my god. That was amazing to watch! Those devs definitly get my money when i buy a treadmill! Cool that an "older" guy tries to evolve the VR gaming.

[@Paraselene_Tao]

Destin, I'm already subbed to Audible, Blinkist, Dollar Shave Club, KZbin prime and more. Do you know when YT will make sponser ads unskippable? I'm worried that one day soon YT will be like cable/dish networks. I really appreciate your content. I'm already notification belled for you. Thanks brotha, keep doing what you do.

[@SeanLawless]

I hit the bell and didnt know it was already on... so I hit it twice.

[@fluxequinox]

same lool i was so pissed when i didnt get notifications. The bell icon should light up or something once its actually on. Come on youtube!

[@matt_b...]

DUDE! A Voltron TShirt!

[@willowithink]

Akulina Belevczova oh f you with the crypto currency. It was annoying since graphics card prices went up $1

[@kittenswithketchup]

I have the same one!

[@Ayomi]

Reading the same book on audible and can testify it’s a great listen 👌🏾

[@TheeRyanBrice]

Gets on the 360 tredmil, starts running as fast as I can, then BOOM, powercut. You look at your next door neighbours through the wall you just caved through "Alright Margret?"

[@shelbyseelbach9568]

This thing would be a maintenance nightmare. Cool, but very complicated. Too complicated for my game room for sure. Could always train to be an Infinideck repairman, i guess.

[@Alex_W1308]

Try to make this but with small balls in a container and with a pressure pad ant the bottom (kinda like the ones in shoe places) so no matter what you do u r in the middle and it senses the pressure of the beads so it can tell if you are walking

[@harleyme3163]

and we all know the LAG that comes from even non virtual reality stuff.. I dont think a computer can interpret what your going to do fast enough to react, and someone will have a bad accident :-( imagine some guy who trys to run and stop real quick... that thing isn't going to stop instantly.... everything has latency.. the question is can you make it fast enough to decelerate and stop him within those bars...

[@aodfox8550]

Robo_Squirrel sao right away with all the sense and feelings you could get and how much more almost impossible it would be to design sao’s vr would be much better

[@suilles]

i do feel that you cant play it well its more for talking a walk or something. no way you could play this in skyrim or fallout and all that because 90% chance you gonna smack your controllers on that bar.

[@pedrosmits]

The problem with the G is solvable to make it tilt in every direction. Like a simulator. The problem with the G will never disappear, unless you introduce a second force. Possibly a pivot point above your head, and swing it into the opposite direction, to act like the G-force

[@markwashington2412]

Imagine this + machine learning so it can learn how the humans react on it

[@ahmedp800]

Why try to predict movements instead of just translate it to VR? Say like *Virtuix Omni*, check it out. This Omnidirectional Treadmill will always produce lag.

[@euclidpanarchy1502]

Ahmed360 it can create engaging enemies

[@abirroy1333]

If the surface where a player walks becomes pixelated and each pixel acts like a sphere just to keep the player fixed to the ring, it wouldn't face problems like inertia. At that time only problem would be tracking the sphere rotational degrees in each step.

[@aaronlowe3156]

4:08 Being a programmer, that's way over analytical- but okay, I guess.

[@granthill3353]

the best part is the evil cat in the back causing problems. ( : (5:28)

[@TayoEXE]

3:50 Guy freaks out over full body tracking, which has already been a thing, instead of what he came to try out.

[@annvic3996]

this reminds me of all the calculus i have done. omg i thought they were annoying and useless equations but hey sooo cool being an engineer cause u understand what they are talking about.

[@raidone7413]

Imagine this in a vr MMO with blade and sorcery physics

[@Andratos95]

Wouldn't it be easier to make like a pretty large ball that rotates under your feet and tracks your movement in all directions? Similar to the ball of an old mouse. You go inside the ball, and voilà! Hamsters figured it out ages ago!

[@TheMorgenTee]

I was thinking the same. I guess the ball would need to be too big to fit in a room with regular height, though.

[@bloogaming8827]

Andratos95 The problem with that is that the ball would have to be quite large to mitigate the curve enough that you feel like you’re walking on a flat surface. Even if you had the space, the ball would weigh so much that it would react quite slowly, if at all, to your movement. And if it got moving quicker than a slow walk, when you stopped, it would keep going and flip you over.

[@Rpm2878]

Flat ball (like a disc, not like an actual ball with no air), made out of a chain mail like material. The links are made so that they only bend one direction and slide over each other, that way it can still bend as it needs to in order to be tightly woven at the sides and more loosely woven at the top and bottom, while creating a solid platform/maintaining its shape. A concave ring maintains its placement. Some point(s) of contact moves the mesh around. I might not be making any sense. It's been a long time since I've thought about this but I still think that this will be the eventual solution.

[@EGarrett01]

I see what you're describing RPM, that's very interesting. The ball wouldn't take up space if you put it under the floor, you could even do it with a two-story building, just make the bottom floor or basement where the balls are.

[@Rpm2878]

I spent some time thinking about this stuff, quite some time ago, and pretty much concluded that all of these omnidirectional treadmill solutions are pretty dumb. Eventually someone will make some sort of suit that's suspended and can resist movement and actually simulate an environment. Until then it really just makes more sense that people will keep using what we've got. Headsets, headphones, controllers, specialty controllers like steering wheels and other cockpits. Honestly, even if they can get this thing to work, what is it for? Expensive virtual walks on flat surfaces, that take up substantial floor space? @EG Did you get what I was describing? You went straight from saying that you understood to talking about building a basement for a giant trackball. I was talking about making something substantially smaller than what's in this video.

[@arooobine]

Hook it up to an EEG to read your intent before your muscles move.

[@ChristopherOverstreet1]

great idea, but analyzing reading EEG to find intent of direction is still a ways out there. Certainly worth pursuing, but many years away, especially in a consumer priced way.

[@arooobine]

Not if you put the electrodes directly over your muscles themselves. A difficult problem and impractical for sure, but not impossible.