I tested 2 NEW Smart Locks, and I’m shocked 😮

[@SmartHomeSolver]

Do you think we'll see more deadbolts that unlock with your biometrics? ✋👍👁

[@Gamen4Bros]

I really hope so, competition is good

[@Jaws-LRD]

Aqara made one but it’s not available in Canada yet 😢

[@topperdude2007]

Any word on integration of either product with popular Smart home hubs (SmartThings, Home Assistant, etc.)?

[@kiwichocaholic]

Smart locks are definitely the way to go....I am looking at my options at the moment. You didn't mention if you can access these locks remotely to unlock or add a pin for someone to use.? I assume there is an app to control settings.

[@Stephen-Jones]

Really wish we'd see more multi point compatible smart locks but it's good to see the market is growing

[@TheHookUp]

Please scan and 3d print your face or palm to see if it works :)

[@ridgefield]

Instead, you can sever your hand and test as well. Some movies had a scene with fingers and eyes..

[@SmartHomeSolver]

That's some Rob next-level testing right there!

[@unknownxy8026]

The palmscanner takes an infrared picture of your hand where you can see your blood vessels.

[@garyruss3529]

@@unknownxy8026 Put the hand in the microwave?

[@LebDusty]

good review but we need to see how do they stand in very hot or cold snowy weather

[@tinasewell1604]

Good question. We have a smart lock that we had to make a makeshift cover for because our door gets an excessive amount of sun and it was killing the battery.

[@daviddyer8807]

Pretty obvious Reed showed they stand up in hot weather.

[@themasonera]

These are dope! Having your door unlock when it detects your phone is a terrible idea. If someone gets your phone then you're screwed.

[@the_smart_home_maker]

Really like it but where do they store the data for your face / fingerprints - all local?

[@moregrouchy]

Well if you replace the word 'smart' with 'spy' you'll have a fair idea what happens to the data collected

[@mrxmry3264]

@@moregrouchy that's why i will not buy any smart home device that wants to send my info to the cloud.

[@the_smart_home_maker]

With critical personal identifiable data like a palm print or face identification I would only use it if it were 100% stored and processed locally.

[@AdityaRamachandranx]

Probably will sell it to absolutely anyone who pays a penny. Next thing you know, you’ll be recommended skin care products, based upon your face.😅

[@GAVilella]

I absolutely LOVE the ending skit, every time!

[@SmartHomeSolver]

Haha thanks!

[@MaxfieldAllison]

"Live long and prosper!" lol god.... were such nerds lol

[@frankmthompson]

Peace and long life.

[@mrxmry3264]

the question is, why is it always spock? there are so many other vulcans.

[@josesimoes106]

Unless I'm missing something, my almost 6 year old August Smart Lock already does what Apple is hoping to have ready next year, it's called Auto-Unlock. Works great for me. 90% of the time the door is unlocked by the time I get to it. The other 10% I have to wait maybe 5 seconds for it to catch up.

[@shaggyfilms]

We are some of the few that that feature actually works. The August sub Reddit is filled with people where auto-unlock doesn’t work. It’s crazy to me!

[@benjaminmaiden1347]

The difference with using the U1 chip is that it’s way more accurate, and doesn’t necessarily rely on geolocation to unlock on arrival. You could be in your yard, but still in range of the lock, and walking back up to it would auto-unlock it, rather than having to essentialy leave the bluetooth range/zone of the lock with current solutions. It also knows which side of the lock you are, so it won’t do this when you’re inside.

[@danial2001]

Too bad lockly doesn't have HA integration! They make amazing locks.

[@michaelmcelrath1163]

Do either of them work with home assistant? 🙃 Wish they weren't wifi. What happened to Z-wave locks? I definitely prefer to only have to replace batteries once a year.

[@SmartHomeSolver]

Unfortunately not a direct integration with Home Assistant right now that I'm aware of. What I'm using for my Schlage Encode Plus is a HomeBridge switch that turns on when the locks is closed and turns off when the lock is open. That way I can at least run automation in Home Assistant if the lock is open or closed. It's been working extremely well and I would just use that same setup for the Lockly. Hopefully Lockly gets Matter support eventually.

[@gmgryan]

Ugh….. I thought I invented that trick with my level lock. I have a kasa switch that turns on and off as lock status changes and also locks and unlocks the level lock via HomeKit automation. Then I have HA control the kasa switch and boom! Integration for the cost of a $10 smart plug.

[@Mentalcheez]

@@SmartHomeSolver could you please make a video on how to do this? Thanks!

[@markkitaoka8783]

I have purchased one and installed it a week ago. It's a FANTASTIC piece of hardware. The Home Lockly app is very buggy so I deleted it and installed their 'regular' phone app on my Android phone and it works well. The battery life he describes is accurate based on how much the battery has drained in a week. Great that they include two and they charge via USB C.

[@lbvillarreal]

How is the lockly doing a month later? Thinking of getting one with the black friday sale.

[@MichaelLinhart]

Great smart lock features! Now try some friends who look like you or similar hand size and see if they can unlock it. 😂

[@Omaricon]

A thing I think is important to remember is that a lock should only make it inconvenient enough for someone to try to break in elsewhere, or to use another method (like a window, which is usually covered by insurance)

[@robjeeves]

Classic end of vid mate 🤣 love the family involvement ❤

[@volcolby]

The Lockly seems great! And in your video there didn’t seem to be a bad lag time. Consistency has to rate highly for any lock, especially on the main entrance. That’s where I have trouble moving away from the Yale and Schlage products to try something that might not be as reliable.

[@ronm6585]

Thanks Reed. These locks look great.

[@JasonUpton-n1u]

About 9 years ago I used locks from Quickset I think. It recognized my phone as i approached the door and unlocked. If my phone was on me i could also touch the lock anywhere and it would lock it. So I am perplexed you mentioned a lock coming soon with this. Is quickset not offering it anymore?

[@miljankisic7566]

What profesionals use? Is better to use solutions with wire or wifi? What if I have to desing smart home in whole building? What about solutions like knx?

[@whirlpoolvalley]

What product were you using for doorbell?

[@ConradFarley]

Nice! I highly recommend checking out the Yale locks. I’ve had the Assure one for 2 years and it auto locks/unlocks with phone or watch nearby or you can lock it by putting your hand over the screen like the old Apple Watches. Also, it takes 4 AAs 😂

[@brianadriaanse3058]

does it work with home assistant

[@gomalibusurf6098]

The second lock feature with rechargable battery packs sound good to me. I also would avoid a doorbell on my door lock. I think it confuses some people, so first one is out. Also those batteries are NOT cheap for good brand batteries. Would run $35 to reolace them.

[@pjarbit]

Were you able to get the Visage to work with Home assistant. I want this lock but wont order unless they fully integrate with HA

[@Niyazakill]

Hello how do they integrate in Home Assistant ? Is it easy ? Do they respond quickly ?

[@mleacoco4887]

Love the Tommy Boy reference!

[@garyruss3529]

Do they work when the internet is down or the power is out? Think that's info to include in all of these reviews.

[@ultimacaster]

Pretty cool updates! I feel like the "fingerprint to unlock your iphone" era was pretty shortlived, and the face scanning to unlock your phone will be around for a long time. I wouldn't be surprised to see this technology go the same way.

[@brentkleinman6926]

This is so awesome, I need this!

[@jasoncaddell2479]

Am I the only one who's door doesn't line up well enough to use a smart door lock? Need to give the door that little push to get the deadbolt to engage.

[@RobertoConrad]

Definitely not alone

[@montag69]

That’s what’s holding me back.

[@SIat]

I had that issue. I took a file and shaved the sides of strike plate down ever so slightly and it worked like a charm. Deadbolt smoothly locks and unlocks without needing to push the door in

[@WillThat]

Does the Lockly connect to Home Assistant threw the HomeKit device integration? I have the Lockly 728z and it's pretty awesome.

[@iChaseCorals]

I like your speed comparison. Not as fast as the u50’s NFC card and Apple key, but they are respectable.

[@cooliipie]

My Phillips one from years ago has face detection and a camera! With a screen for viewing the outside :)

[@for3ign21]

what I would love to see its something like a "smart door". meaning a door with a ring bell and smart lock incorporated by default with some clever way to hook it to power

[@davidwalsh4436]

An important point with the Lockly is that you can wire it in to the power and do not have to worry about the battery going flat. A key issue with a short term rental in another city a long way from where you live. A real problem if you have not been there for months and have guests arriving and battery goes flat. Just install a powerpoint with an inbuilt USB socket next to the door and run a standard USB cable from the powerpoint to the charging socket on the battery and keep it fully charged. Then cycle the two rechargeable batteries twice a year to keep them fresh.

[@KimmoJaskari]

I haven't really done any research beyond the video but the Lockly seems to have an actual key slot. So if all else fails with the powered part you can still get in. The Phillips doesn't have any such thing visible at least, if that is fully dependent on batteries, it's only a matter of time before you stand there waving your hand and going nowhere. I certainly hope there's some other mechanism that isn't immediately visible.

[@davidwalsh4436]

@@KimmoJaskariWe have an earlier version Lockly Vision "Elite" which has a key slot. We have the key in a key safe near the front door. We have had a couple instances were something has gone wrong and guests cannot get in ( one seemed to be a communication issue between the app and the lock and another a not very smart guest). They phone us and we give them the code to the key safe. Next visit we recode the key safe.

[@RiceEater483]

I love the idea of the Lockly Visage. But no Matter support is a deal breaker for me. Even though I'd be using the face unlock to control it 99% of the time, I still want the device in my Home Assistant. Maybe they'll have an updated model next year that supports Matter. I'll finally get it if that happens.

[@KimmoJaskari]

I'd want the lock itself to maintain a copy of the biometrics at all times and not be dependent on any communication. In fact I'd prefer if you could schedule it from HA but that the schedule too would be in the lock in case of communications failures or HA going down.

[@MadLadsAnonymous]

Would love to see smart locks with Thread (?) that are made for multi-point locks. The only ones I know of are Nuki sold in Europe.

[@Ewoodster]

They are all nice, but my 4 year old Nuki 2 smart lock can u lock the door when I approach it already with the phone in my pocket. This is by far the most convenient option of them all.

[@STILLKINGSTON73]

Well can it be used with Android phones..? You seem to only talk about these devices with using Apple products

[@SmartHomeSolver]

Yes they both work with Android

[@Any__Name]

What is android? 🤷🏼‍♂️

[@GaryV-p3h]

Android is what everyone outside the US uses 🤣

[@AccountabilityFit]

71.65% of the world uses Android. 27.62% of the world uses Apple.

[@creativecontent99999]

Wonder if there is an upgrade for an explosive charge as a back up if you get locked out?

[@fotalimark]

I bought and have installed the lockley visage it works very well as described, but I am extremely disappointed that it does not integrate with either home assistant or IFTTT. The status of the lock being locked or unlocked should be something I can see plainly in my home assistant dashboard.

[@junkins]

What about Home Assistant integration?

[@SmartHomeSolver]

Unfortunately there's not a direct integration with Home Assistant right now that I'm aware of.

[@junkins]

@@SmartHomeSolver Thanks!

[@michaeldisieno3465]

Does the lockly work for shorter folks, like kids?

[@GrahamQuigley]

As soon as I heard "palm reading" - I thought - is he going to have an OutTake on this??! You didn't disappoint.

[@ElizabethOnTheLake]

What about when guests are staying with you? How do they get in the house?

[@jackzhao9868]

My home in China has similar palm vein scan smart lock by hikvision years ago, finally a similar product is coming to the US😂

[@quadin13405]

I ordered the Lockly with your Home Depot link. I can’t figure out how to add it to Apple Home. The app just keeps saying incorrect code. Any ideas? I tried it manually and by scanning the QR

[@VW_Fan]

It seems I can't find the Lockly Visage Zeno for sale in Australia.

[@mobteknik]

My Yale Doorman L3S unlocks when I get close to it. As long as I have ny phone with me. Love it.

[@JoshsSmartHome]

Nice video and interesting content, but given we use our garage entrance, a simple keypad works great for visitors rather than dishing out this kind of money without added benefits for them.

[@zxcvbnmmasdfghjkl]

Here’s a project I’m working on, using rtsp camera, a yolo v8 model to train faces and create an automation in home assistant to unlock the door

[@Dimmers]

I would be curious about a facial growth test for the face detection lock. Due to my current lifestyle, where I would be off-site and have very different daily hours, I only shave sometimes (a week or longer). I have very prominent facial hair that grows thick and fast, so in a few days, I can look like a very different person. So how would it register me from clean-shaven to having an almost beard?

[@SinergiaAlUnisono]

it would be cool to know if the camera has other usages... like request remote open the door, take pictures of ppl at the door, video conference, can the camera be added to the built in security of the household "?", etc. Thanks

[@gcs8]

Home Assistant integration?

[@bzipoli]

my bank uses palm reading instead of the fingerprint reading other banks use at the ATMs and has been like this for the last idk 10-15 years. its more consistent and faster, but we'll have to see how they'll do with locks because it's a way less sturdy material of course

[@nagyba]

Amazon says it is currently unavailable

[@Mad5cout]

TP-link just came out with a new door bell. The D210. I'd be interested in your take.

[@eIektrinis]

Home assistant? Will only buy if it's compatible and local, no cloud.

[@YehudaKatz1]

These look cool, but I have so many more questions. How well do they work if the wifi is down? Do they require internet access to set up? Can they integrate with Home Assistant? If the company ever stops supporting them, will they still work?

[@pyromethious]

If you want the camera, then the Lockly Vision Zeno Series Deadbolt is the model you'll want.

[@toddmcgowan9449]

Does the Lockly Visage Zeno work with Home Assistant?

[@hidarh7471]

You mentioned that in the future we'd get smartphone unlock, we already have locks with auto unlock feature like the Yale assure.

[@pdev9414]

I wonder how they will work in the winter. Especially in areas where there is real winter. Palm lock will not work with gloves on, I guess, and with -20 I rather keep my gloves on.

[@timderks5960]

I'd love to combine these smart locks with a regular security camera that has person recognition. If the camera detects me and the lock detects my palm or face, good to go. I'd also love to have the active side of the lock on the wall, instead of on the door. Batteries for devices like this suck, no matter how convenient they are. About the security tests: try pictures taken from further away, i.e. a picture of most of your arm and most of your upper body. I'd love to see if the security still is good when you fill the entire POV of the lock's camera with a picture, so it has no outside clues that it's looking at a picture. It honestly wouldn't surprise me if some of these companies just programmed in something that the lock won't open if they see a rectangle, like an ipad or a picture printed on a sheet of paper.

[@andrewwylie9259]

I've yet to come across a smart lock that handles our door lock (long live Lockitron...that did)...its able to be buzzed open and so the bolt only needs to go in half the distance of normal locks. These smart locks always go into error because it can't throw the full distance.

[@PestOnYT]

I'd prefer those devices if only the scanners (+keypad) were on the outside and the "decision" making electronics as well as the opening motor to be inside. Before you say you can kick-in that door faster either way... I'm in Germany and have a metal door with multiple locks around the door frame ;-)

[@JustinsRealmMC]

When you mention ANY smart device, can you briefly mention its integration with home assistant, matter, or even siri/alexa/google? For us, lack of local control can be a dealbreaker.

[@Not_now_dave]

What about when it Rains and the sensors get water on it?

[@johno4238]

I am looking for a smart lock that does not have a knob on the inside. The door has a window so any lock that has a knob is like no lock at all. The one I use right now has a key on the inside and outside.

[@andrealbero945]

You could also evaluate if a device can work if the internet is down.

[@brentkleinman6926]

Waving your hand would be amazing to open the door haha

[@cedricjackson7521]

Love the review and these are great devices, but are they hack proof?

[@DrippinWetDetail]

Killing me with these new products! Immediately after watching, I find myself driving to a Home Depot 30 mins away who has a facial recognition deadbolt lock in stock that I don’t need….but I want

[@Lonestar101]

How long do the Lockly rechargeable batteries last?

[@pontuslandin6883]

Will the face scan work for your kids that are short?

[@dannywu7]

could you ask where the data for your biometrics are stored for both devices?

[@MR-pr8tp]

Good video. As locks change, just don't want to get locked out due to power failures. Remember living in a neighborhood (many years ago) with damage from storms, no power for days and my neighbors could not get into their house! From that point on, made sure "electronics" would work. I am assuming even ugly people's faces will be accepted? lol. Btw, love your new look and without tattoos everywhere.

[@TechCristina]

Speaking of palm scanning, Amazon just released palm scanning to pay in their Amazon Go stores and some Whole Food stores

[@Tagraff]

...you're serious? I fear there will be a real duplication of someone getting lucky for not having to pay for it, and it's on someone else account (of the same hand). I just think it needs a multifactor security to account for when it comes to an actual payment.

[@NirenDroreang-x3fapeto]

Very good

[@LiveForTheDrum]

August Smart Lock already unlocks when your cellphone is nearby.

[@Grind.Harder77]

Thanks now I need a new smart door lock

[@stephenw4366]

I will give any device without standard AA or AAA batteries a pass. Regardless of whether they supply extras, manufacturer-specific rechargeable lithium batteries will eventually degrade and have to be replaced. When the supplier eventually no longer supports the model you may have to replace the entire lock. There's a method to their madness. I hope thousands of others echo this so that the manufacturers take notice.

[@shubinternet]

CR123A are less common, but still pretty standard.

[@NickNackGus]

Definitely agreed there. I'd love to see standardized Li-Ion battery formats so you can go to basically any store and buy a replacement for nearly any device.

[@anpc86]

That’s my concern + winter climate - am I gonna leave my keys and come home and find a dead lock

[@bzipoli]

your watch doesn't use AA or AAA batteries. you've probably seen a CR2032 we use for BIOS clocks also. there are different sizes of batteries, doesn't mean they're not standard. some electronics need higher voltages or higher capacities. CR123a is one of them. 18650 is another one.

[@Xyolyp]

*I will give any smart home device with batteries, rechargeable or not, a pass. Hardwire all the things

[@KaosII1968]

LG G-8, had palm unlock.

[@Tony-on-tech]

Very cool!

[@DaHaiZhu]

Nobody ever tries someone else's palm or face or thumb after registering their own (like a sibling or parent or just someone that looks like you).

[@exiquiogonzalez4549]

Wyze lock already does this Auto-Unlock automatically unlocks your door when you arrive home.

[@iam_sandeepsaini]

Hello... Greetings from India🇮🇳. I Love your content so much I have a request. Can you please make a video on how to install and run home assistant on an android device with termux. It will be very helpful

[@brainz-brainz]

Props for the Tommy Boy reference

[@pankajnaik2708]

What happens if internet is down or it’s unable to connect to Wi-Fi ?

[@edwinschaap5532]

If Apple or one of the other big players release TouchID or FaceID everyone jumps on it to test how secure it really is. But for all these devices you just have to hope it will be fine. Who tests how good these hand en face scanning is? (Good not in how quickly or correctly it scans you, but how big is the chance it accepts other hands or faces.)

[@patrick3533]

100%. It's the most important device to get right. A false positive is somewhat catastrophic here. There really should be more info on this!

[@PoisonWaffle3]

I like the functionality, but it sounds like both rely on the cloud? You've said in other comments that they don't work with HomeAssistant yet? Do either of them work your internet connection goes down (or if power goes out)? If not, you've still gotta carry a key. We're getting closer to the future, it's just gotta run locally :)

[@vasasv6848]

What about Brute Force to remove them as they stand up …?

[@kiwichocaholic]

For those wanting a lock that integrates with HA, checkout Yale locks

[@donaldhoudek2889]

Am I mistaken or is there no key for this lock as in for some reason the battery died, no one is home ? Wife feels the palm is better than the mug shot. Key or no key? That would be a game changer.

[@KienTran]

Battery dying generally not a concern. You should be getting notifications it’s low as well as hear it being weak. For houses, you also usually would have another door if everything else fails

[@Mr.C0ffee]

What about price?

[@jaystarr6571]

What about drowssap as a password? It's pretty tricky, right?

[@NickNackGus]

The palm detecting lock sounds more interesting to me out of the two, but I have to wonder what would prevent it from working. Gloves, whether for fashion or winter weather? Accidentally getting ketchup or something on your hands from a messy lunch, or similarly basically any dirty hands? If it goes off of the veins in your hands, does it get confused if it's a hot or cold day and there's more or less blood flow in your hands? What if you get a mild cut or bruise on your hand? Granted as long as you can enter a numeric combination you can get in anyways, so maybe I'm overthinking it.

[@LeonBosset]

It still has a keypad.

[@annekedebruyn7797]

There is going to be no need for device specific battery packs like the Lockly as there are already USB-C recharable AA(A) and CR123A batteries. I rather have the option of being able to use regular batteries just to be safe in the future. Especially with smart home companies, they could be gone the moment you bought your product.

[@deutschland09]

The most important question about the Lockly: Does it work with Home Assistant Reed?

[@SmartHomeSolver]

There's not a direct integration as far as I'm aware of right now. What I'm using for my Schlage Encode Plus is a HomeBridge switch that turns on when the locks is closed and turns off when the lock is open. It's been working extremely well and I would just use that same setup for the Lockly. Hopefully it gets Matter support eventually.

[@ImARichard]

I am super skeptical about handing over biometric data to smart device companies. But there's no denying that the tech is really cool.

[@sweetkruegz]

👍 just for the Tommy Boy ref