Harry Potter vs. Percy Jackson: Who Would Actually Win In A Fight?

[@mellow3995]

The fact Percy is that strong is the exactly the point of banning children being born from the big 3. He's basically a modern day Hercules or Heracles if you wanna be pedantic about it. Harry has no chance, Percy has shown to be able to react to bullets and is likely tankier than Hagrid, most spells are gonna be dodged or tanked easily. I don't think he needs his hydrokinesis to win but if there's water nearby, it's an even faster win.

[@honmanchan7375]

It's Alcaeus if you want to be really pedantic about it. 😁

[@bennysundance175]

Or his poison/Blood bending.

[@geetoasty]

In the fantastic beasts movies, wizards and witches can react to lightning-based electricity spells, which Harry should be on par with, if not faster. Crucio or the body-controlling spells Percy

[@mellow3995]

@@geetoasty Sometimes they can dodge spells, somethings they are hit by them. Dumbledore avoided being hit by Avada Kadavra multiple times during his fight with Voldemort, but he was killed by the same spell regardless. I think it's the same as reacting to gun shots, if you see someone pointing it at you and pulling the trigger, you can move out of the way, same with spells. I don't think wizards have lightning or light speed reaction times, it doesn't make sense based on every thing we know from the books.

[@geetoasty]

@mellow3995 The books don't really tell us anything. They just show them being able to fight on par with each other. It seems more likely that the spells and their ability to avoid them are around the same in speed, and it mainly relies on how good someone is at aiming. The gunshot analogy doesn't work here, since at a normal distance, no matter how fast you try to dash to the side, unless the person has really terrible aim, the bullet will hit you, its why you don't really see people try to dive and avoid a guy with a gun and instead put their hands up

[@Fictionfan364]

6:22 Percy can summon Blackjack at any time with a whistle people often forget to point that out

[@_lavenderdawn_4022]

Personally, Percy never feels overpowered when you're reading the books. Its really when you look back with hindsight that you notice just how much power he has and that's one of the best parts of the series. You see Percy grow and it feels like a natural progression to me. Yes he has a lot of power but a lot of the situations he's put in require more than brute force so he needs to really think about how he uses his power to save the day and that's what keeps the tension going because a lot of the time, the answer isn't really obvious.

[@adityasundaram3602]

yeah, people tend to leave out that his toughest opponents are Gods, Proto-Gods(Titans), and genetically engineered God-Killers(Giants), OP in Harry Potter scale yes,Upper Middle tier in his own verse

[@satan3862]

​@@adityasundaram3602 yeah that why i can't understand why this debate as a thing. You can't pit a wizard against child god (one of the most powerfull gods too) and expect the wizard to win

[@arunjoseph3256]

anaklusmos doesn't even work against mortals

[@Sofia15845]

@@arunjoseph3256yeah but riptide can still deflect some spells because it’s celestial bronze (correct me if I’m wrong)

[@jax3845]

Exactly

[@oceanmythjormundgandr3891]

Yeah now i totally get why the big three made a pact to not make any more kids...Percy is dangerous.

[@arunjoseph3256]

Harry's magic is op

[@stevenrichardson4844]

You are kinda right about Percy when it is op as hell, but at the same time, he was improving every time he fought and did lose from time to time. The villains in the books are mostly op as well mostly luke final and others

[@oceanmythjormundgandr3891]

I do like that Percy is OP in terms of strength, but that his real problem is his fluctuating luck, his low self-esteem, and his care for others... but even then he kinda overcame his fatal flaw by knowing when to put the world first (proving Athena wrong).

[@MyBitch925]

Bro has the biggest plot armor evee

[@Fictionfan364]

@@MyBitch925Harry Potter literally has the power of love on his side…

[@c_a_n_d_y_l_a_n_d]

How could you say Percy did nit care for other? In many books of The PJO series, Percy himself has not only told many times but proven that he does not care about the attention he receives, he only wanted to work hard for the best of his friends, to save the entire world?

[@lucassevey5989]

​@@Fictionfan364and the power of love only works on Voldemort

[@Fictionfan364]

@@lucassevey5989 yeah the only real threat or big bad in this entire series 😑

[@wingedgirl7035]

I feel like the books are very much a benefit to Percy's character because you're seeing it all in first person. You see all the times he experiences "the worst pain he's ever felt in his life" (I feel like he says that a lot lol) or the general struggles that are harder to see on screen. And there's also the more ridiculous and less conventional solutions that also often have to be changed for on screen purposes. Percy seems op but in the context of the story he's in, he still struggles quite a bit.

[@astoria4ever]

in the end he does become op - if you see the other povs in HoO they saw hes really strong and powerful

[@CryptidCritter]

​@@astoria4everExactly! But it's what makes the series actually really good. Percy is an unreliable narrator. For him, he's just a little guy who's sometimes a bit sassy and an awkward teen growing up. He's insecure, and he doubts himself, and doesn't always realize just how smart he actually can be. .....Everyone else gets to see his terrifying levels of power, and just how OP and badass he actually is. And it's this contract that maked Percy extremely relatable. It makes him incredibly human; because I think many people, especially kids, go through thaf same experience and phase of insecurity and uncertainty. It also humbles Percy a lot and makes him that much enjoyable of a protagonist c:

[@arunjoseph3256]

anaklusmos doesn't even work against mortals

[@olacokacola]

i think its sweet how rick based percy of his son and made him op

[@Nortarachanges]

+

[@Rehcras]

Percy beats Harry. Harry just doesn’t have the same feats to scale to something like Percy’s causing a volcano to erupt. Harry’s more of a brainy fighter with allies that are more on par with him and bring their skill sets together but in a direct fight Percy wins.

[@whitekitties4224]

Or he could just kill him .

[@satan3862]

Yeah, i always felt like this debate isn't even a debate for this exact reason. The power scaling they have to deal regularly with in percy jackson just can't be compared to harry potter. Its like comparing a rock to a mountain. Of course percy would win his entire existens just shows how dangerous children of the big three are. Anyone that knows the basics of both series could logic that out if they aren't biases most demigods are more dangerous then harry due to this simple fact

[@arunjoseph3256]

anaklusmos doesn't even work against mortals

[@LeoValdez420]

Nico di angelo joins the chat

[@piousphilosophy7538]

As the strongest demigod, PercGOAT, fought the fraud, "the boy who lived", he began to summon a wave. Harry shrunk back in fear then Percy said, "stand proud Potter, you are strong".

[@richardbaron1098]

Even this video isn't free from the lobotomy.

[@arunjoseph3256]

Harry can probably beat percy tbh

[@richardbaron1098]

@@arunjoseph3256 No.

[@recon5901]

​@@arunjoseph3256 nah

[@Sofia15845]

@arunjoseph3256 I strongly disagree with you. Have you even read the Percy Jackson books?

[@fireflyer97]

I think even Dumbledoor would have little chance against Percy. Percy's reaction speed alone would be enough to run circles around the master wizard considering that Percy has reacted to lightspeed attacks in combat during his fight with the titan Hyperion. The incident with him causing a volcano to erupt would also put Percy in a whole other league in terms of his energy/ power output.

[@purvashah8310]

Rick did give Percy every crazy cool powers like he can literally blood bend, he can summon hurricanes, can sword fight, had the achilleas curse, he is the son of the the big three, he has blackjack, etc.. but he has his fatal flaw, his loyalty and care towards others which often leads to him in bad situations. Because he is the son of one of the big three gods he also has horrible luck. Plus there is a reason the gods banned the children of the big three, they were too powerful

[@arunjoseph3256]

anaklusmos doesn't even work against mortals

[@Fictionfan364]

9:19 calling Percy a Gary stu is simply wrong Percy is incredibly overpowered yes but that’s for several reasons that actually make sense and is established nearly a dozen times in the books Heracles is literally the same as Percy only with less variety in powers whooping godly asses with ease etc etc his ennemies are some of the most powerful beings in the universe actual gods him being OP doesn’t make him boring or unsatisfactory Percy also often has to think around his ennemies trick them play on they’re pride like his monster brother in the battle of the labyrinth Antaeus it’s a good example of Percy thinking around his opponent snd utilizing his strengths against him And some people can in fact go toe to toe with Percy Jason Grace and several giants chief amongst them some even nearly killing him more than once, giants being some of the only real threats to him is yet again a testament to his power yes but Percy has been helpless and hopeless countless times especially against Kronos hell it took literal divine intervention so Percy wouldn’t die just stopping Kronos’s weapon from being reforged Percy is like Thor or Wonder Woman. He operates on a far grander scale than Harry can ever dream to reach, but that doesn’t make Percy some bland protagonist that never struggles or fails.

[@WolfyPlays07]

Agreed- he actually loses and has flaws

[@arunjoseph3256]

anaklusmos doesn't even work against mortals

[@Fictionfan364]

@@arunjoseph3256 demigods and magicians chapter 1 carter Kane gets hurt by it and he’s just a mortal with magic powers same as Harry….

[@arunjoseph3256]

@Fictionfan364 well that's a contingency error

[@arunjoseph3256]

@@Fictionfan364 and hp magic is a hereditary trait

[@nijuu8053]

"avada kedavra" Harry would be choking on his saliva before he can say a word

[@pedroaquino2833]

If can hit him yes, but with normal reflexes Harry would never hit Percy with anything

[@turtle1658]

only if he could hit him, the spells don't seem to be as fast as a bullet, percy can deflects bulets

[@arunjoseph3256]

Harry is op against percy

[@arunjoseph3256]

Ever hear of NON-VERBAL CURSES

[@MonaColin-uu1gu]

​@arunjoseph3256 still getting dodged, spells are shown to be bursts of light

[@owenjolley351]

*What we learned here is that Harry basically isn’t shit without his wand.*

[@MonaColin-uu1gu]

​@Myaluvsmusic no powers percy still beats harry cause harry is a abritish boy in boarding school and percy is a broke new Yorker

[@watermelonwarrior239]

Percy without powers still has his sword, even if you remove that he is a New York kid so he can definitely throw hands better than posh boy Harry lol

[@Fictionfan364]

4:37 he in fact can deflect magical energy in the last Olympian when fighting hades he deflected a bolt of energy from the god very casually not even a dent on riptide

[@Fictionfan364]

6:09 fun fact the invisibility cloak isn’t infaillible Percy In the lightning thief shows that his senses are so developed he can map out his surroundings in a 30 feet radius and accurately analyze it without looking it’s in his battle with ares so if Harry makes even a sound in that radius Percy would be able to notice him

[@katiemartin487]

Another KZbinr, Friendly Space Ninja, has made a Percy Jackson video, and he made a point on people saying who would win a fight between Harry and Percy, and he said that Percy wipe the floor with Harry so fast that Voldemort would ask for a replay. Even with his Death Eaters included, Percy wouldn’t even be tired afterwards. 😂😂

[@mariannaortiz2426]

Oh, I watched it too! He's great.

[@katiemartin487]

@@mariannaortiz2426 he’s really good. His videos are really fun to watch.

[@autumn3686]

Percy wins. He's a literal demi-god. He's physically strong from the start and then by the end became unvunarable. All he'd have to do is not turn his back on Harry, but even then the chances are low.

[@tc4331]

This is just my view, but Percy is still a pretty developed character in the books. And while yes he's OP, he still needs to learn some things if he wants to reach to the top. Power alone is dangerous, but power and knowledge is a true monster. And if you're still worried about his character growth, thank Disney Plus for making the Percy Jackson series. The book was a bit limited to show some growth for Percy and other characters, so the show can help expand the world to an audience view rather than hearing it from a first person narrator.

[@jessthewaterbender224]

Respect the opinion but Percy imo is a way better character than Harry

[@ONEPEAKFRFR]

I'll do you one better. Pick a percy Jackson team and see how far they are getting through the 12 houses from Saint seiya without dying. I think the og crew wouldn't even make it past the first house. Then again, I haven't read all the books.

[@MonaColin-uu1gu]

If we're only talking about percy jackson and the Olympians then yea percy, grover, and annabeth prolly won't make it. But I feel like post HoO they would be able to. And if the prophesied seven go, then they're most definitely getting through the houses. But, then again, I haven't consumed saint seiya media in years so idk.

[@1slayer959]

Percy is for sure stronger than Harry, but to call him a gary stu is a bit much. I can't remember even one time he purely overpowered legitimate power houses like gods. He usually outsmarts them. Sure sometimes he has a power up moment but to say he just brute forces everything is either being dishonest, or ya just didn't read the books

[@adityasundaram3602]

yeah, people tend to leave out that his toughest opponents are Gods, Proto-Gods(Titans), and genetically engineered God-Killers(Giants), OP in Harry Potter scale yes,Upper Middle tier in his own verse

[@max_kirchi_fca]

Percy clear

[@JDMaverick6714]

Percy slams Harry 🥱

[@drunklittlesheep]

I think the reason why Percy doesn't come across as ridiculously overpowered (at least in the first series) is because it's all from his pov. Percy is an unreliable narrator. His self-confidence and adhd issues mean his conception of himself is usually just a regular kid with "issues" not a ultrapowerful warrior.

[@satan3862]

True but were piting a wizard against a god child. I don't get how anyone could have thought harry had any chance if there was some fairness in this 'fight' cause percy enemies vs harry enemies are like comparing a rock with a Mountain.

[@alannahmcevoy1921]

Percy also has Me O'Leary his gigantic hellhound!!!!!!

[@BrinkofMattness]

Percy the bronze age Jedi. Uncle Rick we need this 😂

[@Fictionfan364]

4:25 demigods are flat out stated and shown to be incredibly resilient to magic so both world would support Percy being incredibly resistant to spells

[@redwolf344]

Didn't percy get turned into a gunine pig or something

[@Fictionfan364]

@@redwolf344 Percy wasn’t as strong as he is now when that happened. On top of that, this was a potion brewed by Circe one of the most skilled and most powerful witches in Greek mythology her powers are so powerful the only thing that could protect Percy and Annabeth from her powers *"at that time"* were magical vitamins made by another god more powerful than Circe. So it’s not even remotely an equivalence for what Harry is capable of. Considering one he sucks at potions and two, people like Circe and Medea make Dumbledore look like a clown. Percy has resisted a sleep spell from Hypnos and magical spells from Egyptian Mythology which are legitimately a form of reality warping.

[@lusinebaghyan8864]

I mean Harry is a boy who is going to school to learn how to control his powers and learn more about magic. There is no war yet and he is not an overly the top talented wizard (he is good don't get me wrong), but he is not Dumbldoore in his schoolboy time. So he is just chilling there, having a good time and learning. Throughout the books he is just a kid. A boy who lived and he did that thanks to his mother. Percy on the other hand is a son of a powerful god for one and he lives in the world when at any time monsters might try to kill him. He needs to learn how to fight otherwise he is dead. But I agree he sometimes feels like to powerful and has some strange abilities like feeling the coordinates when he is in the sea or how he comand a ship. Give him a compass and make him learn something, don't give him that kind of abilityes!!! You can argue that he is a big 3 kid he needs to be powerful, but neither Thalia nor Niko are that strong! Many people hate Dumbldoore for making Harry a child soldier, but I don't see a lot of discussion about how Percy Jackson whole world is on the shoulders of child soldiers. Most of them die before 12 and ohters in their 20s. People amake fun thet they don't want to get in Hunger games universe, but to be a demigod in PJ series is more dangerous. Also I have a theory that female authors usually don't make their main characters overpowered and to prove my case I have Harry Potter and Edward Elric from FMA. Thake this one with grain of salt, because I'm not too sure if it actually ia true. But both of them are not the strongest in their series they are main characters not because of it. Or they are not the strongest because they are the main character. I love both Percy and Harry very much and I think that they will be friends and won't fight. The might open up to each other about their shitty guardians and their dreams.

[@madelynjaramillo6787]

I could see Percy and Harry talking over tea about parental issues

[@lusinebaghyan8864]

@@madelynjaramillo6787 and about their awesome moms!

[@lucassevey5989]

I personally think Percy Jackson's world makes it very clear that if you don't learn how to fight and kill as a demigod you die so they don't really get a choice

[@anonomit8229]

According to the Kane Chronicles (A series on the egyptian gods), Percy is also magic resistant. Carter Kane, a sorcerer that channeled the power of Horus, fought him. Carter noticed that his magic didn’t work that well on Percy, and even knocked him across town just for Percy to show up with little injuries a min or 2 later.

[@Fictionfan364]

2:25 that inter monologue was when Percy was 12 tho the only time Percy ever considered Clarisse impressive after that is when she had the blessing of a god

[@alexrobi1176]

I think this shows an interesting disparity between wizards and demigods. Wizards have way more power in their arsenal but at the end of the day, they aren't much stronger than your average human. Demigods are significantly stronger than normal humans, even the ones who barely have any powers at least have strength and resistance. It's not just Percy, any demigod with any sort of elemental power is going to beat any average wizard. Percy just has the benefit of being a child of the big 3.

[@suzanadsuza4819]

I was thinking the same...

[@satan3862]

This exact thing is why i think the debate is useless. It doesn't matter how powerfull the wizards are. They're still every day human just with more abilities. The demigods can barely be consider human (in regards to a fight anyway) due to their ridiculous strength, durability and abilities. Not to memtion how their blood actively give them certain traits without fail making them even more dangerous

[@Fictionfan364]

8:04 in son of Neptune Percy summoned a wave taller than Hubbard glacier and destroyed the replica of a city on top of it thats a wave the size of a mega tsunami with the the width of a small city just saying Dumbledore isn’t winning a tug of war there 😂 Just saying I know people don’t often look at things in detail as much as I like to do with the things I like

[@mollieadele]

I think this whole fight is just silly because they’re completely different universes with completely different magic systems 🤷‍♀️

[@nonu_2o9]

Thank you :)

[@en4833]

Ok then every single comparison between fictional universes is silly, and then where would we be.

[@mollieadele]

@@en4833 you hit the nail on the head there didn’t you. And since when do we need to compare characters on their powers?

[@en4833]

@@mollieadele I mean, we don't need to in the sense that it's not imperative for our survival. But it sure is fun. It's interesting to compare characters we like from different universes. There's whole subcategories of the internet dedicated to this stuff. To call all of it silly is a little condescending don't you think?

[@AVACADO___FOOD]

It's true I do mainly see this argument come up with the Percy Jackson fandom. Love both books but also guys just because the characters are stronger doesn't mean that the series is better (a fan of both cant choose a fav ❤)

[@researchr3263]

percy is a a demigod there is practicly o fight at all

[@average_gamer8309]

Percy is one of the strongest fictional characters of all time

[@dreamiesnoona6423]

The reason why Percy eventually becomes so powerful besides being a smart strategist in combat is because he is a demi-god. Not superhero, not superhuman, not a wizard but literally a half-God. And at that, he is the son of Poseidon, one of the Big Three. That's why some powers come so naturally to him and other demigods.

[@Fictionfan364]

4:41 actually he can kill Harry with it celestial bronze can harm carter Kane who’s very much like Harry a regular mortal with magical powers

[@richardbaron1098]

Percy is so stong because his average oponent is litteraly a mithical being, if he was on Harry's level, he wouldn't have survived the first year, so it make sense for him to be this strong in a verse where everyone is godly in one way or another, it doesn't make him less well writen to me.

[@arunjoseph3256]

Bro harry can summon anything, use torture spells, bind him to the ground and dont forget he becomes head of auror office Bombarda can get the achilles spot

[@redwolf344]

all harry has to do is teleport behind percy place a quick full body bind spell on him and percy is out of commission. not saying percy isn't strong but people aren't thinking about the versatility of spells at harry's disposal.

[@lucassevey5989]

​@@redwolf344he would still have his hydrokinesis and Percy was able to Dodge lightning I think he could react to someone teleporting behind him

[@WhiteWolf-s4u]

Pls do matches from every series you know.

[@kduthie9330]

Percy no question

[@Baker7of10]

Percy vs Yoda

[@asfodelos3225]

The only argument I need is Percy is half god and the most athletic Harry gets is by flying on a broom. Just on endurance alone, no powers, no spells, no nothing, Percy wins.

[@arunjoseph3256]

Harry survived for months without food beside wildberries

[@lucassevey5989]

​@@arunjoseph3256and Percy survived months in Tartarus you know basically hell...

[@nickkrasny1562]

What about Percy vs Voldemort or Dumbledore

[@Barkley_Prods267]

Percy wins all scenarios no difficulty

[@Just_A_DTI_Fan]

You forgot that Percy looses the curse of Achiles during the son of Neptune

[@YouYou-sd2hx]

wtf harry gonna do they he sees enough water to make a lake surround him. lets give harry best odds adult harry,elder wand,unforgivable curses,invisibility cloak on before the fight and riptide cant hit him percy can dodge lightning and may be FTL he would just dodge the curse and beat the shit out of harry

[@redwolf344]

teleport away or use his protective charm or use his mind control spell or paralize percy or use his spell that controls water

[@yellowtheanimator]

@@redwolf344Percy can probably take a paralyze spell if we are being realistic. We are talking about a Demi-god who has held the sky, killed misery herself by blood bending, survived being in a heart of a volcano whilst its erupting, carried a river, made a huge water tornado, and survived a backhand from a titan. Even if Percy is injured, Percy can just sit in water and get healed of his wound.

[@coldermusic2729]

The only way for a wizard to beat percy at his peak is with the killing curse. Which both berry and Dumbledore won’t use. At his peak his extremely fast and strong, invulnerable to all attacks except his back, can control water more effectively then a water bender from avatar and can tank magic shots. When he fought the kane siblings we were able to see just how powerful percy is, and how good his reaction is. So even with the killing curse I can’t help but think that he can just dodge it 😂 especially if the opponent is in front of him and he’s ready for the fight. Only way for percy to loose with be a killing curse to the back. Let’s not forget that he held up the entire sky for a few seconds 💀

[@arunjoseph3256]

anaklusmos doesn't even work against mortals

[@coldermusic2729]

@@arunjoseph3256 see… this is a weird situation. The sword works on the kane siblings… but is that cause they’re possessed by a god, and thus are “demigods” or is it cause they’re magic users and thus not “normal humans”. Regardless, percy can still beat Harry with his bare hands. Let’s not forget that percy was able to control poison and the tears of a primordial god and made her choke on it, beating her. So he can, if push comes to shove, probably control any form of liquid, including blood. However chooses not to. Similar to Harry choosing not to use the killing curse. So if we’re assuming that Harry puts aside all his morales in this fight why exactly wouldn’t percy?

[@arunjoseph3256]

@coldermusic2729 Well, if Harry lands one body bind curse, then Percy can't do much besides use his hydrotelekinesis. Both of them don't kill, but if Harry uses crucio, then Percy might bloodbend.

[@lucassevey5989]

​@@arunjoseph3256I'm pretty sure the guy who survived Tartarus and held up the sky wouldn't mind crucio

[@foxial5358]

Harry because he would just get carried by Hermione. Like always. :)

[@xdustyx2982]

Even in this aspect, it's still Percy because he has Annabeth who, in my opinion, is smarter than Hermione.

[@nightwolfnordberg9476]

​@@xdustyx2982that is not fair comparison she is a child of atena of course she will be smarter

[@Sometotalyrandomguy1305]

​@@nightwolfnordberg9476 and nethier is harry with hermione but percy would win against 2 of them easaly.

[@xdustyx2982]

@@nightwolfnordberg9476 Yeah but so is giving Harry an advantage. It's either they both have their smart buddies or neither of them do. And plus Harry needs to learn to thing for him self.

[@Alexander-vl1lg]

I think the fight would go without anyone hitting anyone for a little while. For starters, Percy is fast enough to dodge bullets. Harry can teleport and thats a non-verbal spell. I can picture Percy trying to hit harry while Harry just teleports around dodging everything Percy tries.

[@Ifartinmysleepacc2]

Love the vid lol as a HP and a PJO fan

[@nonu_2o9]

how about hagred vs percy

[@Fictionfan364]

Honestly I highly doubt Dumbledore would win on the account that riptide has deflected energy from beings unquantifiably more powerful than Dumbledore and the elder wand that being Hades And he’s simply way too fast, you pointed out Percy could deflect a bullet yes But you don’t seem to recall the fight against Ephialtes in the mark of Athena. Ephialtes casually deflected a bolt of lightning and Percy went on to go toe to toe with him while multi tasking There’s also that time a heavily tired and weakened Percy moved so fast he was a blur In who’s perspective is what matters. Annabeth Chase, a demigoddess who went toe to toe with a empousai that basically blitzed Percy by the time he was only able to deflect bullets To *her* Percy just appeared in front of her and killed Arachne so fast she barely saw it happen

[@Fictionfan364]

0:40 you should see it on other plateforms it’s very much the opposite 😂

[@ander2317]

In all honesty, a fight between Percy and Gandolf from LOTR would be fairer by comparison.

[@snowygames1605]

The way no one’s talking about how one of the unforgivable curses would percy is so funny- Btw I love both books and I read them both but I prefer hp

[@lucassevey5989]

Would what?

[@VanshPatel-rd9of]

Percy can just snap his fingers and control Harry’s blood and explode him from the inside out

[@arunjoseph3256]

Harry can teleport

[@VanshPatel-rd9of]

I know but Harry can’t damage Percy any other way than the curses and do something Percy at 12 was already competing with gods while Harry was still struggling with a basilisk

[@arunjoseph3256]

@@VanshPatel-rd9of a basilisk is quite a formidable opponent

[@VanshPatel-rd9of]

@@arunjoseph3256 Ik but does it compare to ares hades or Hyperion

[@VanshPatel-rd9of]

Percy’s feats are infinitely better and his godly genetics make him physically stronger as well plus he had blood bending so he has the perfect match of feats hax and raw strength

[@Crimery1]

a thing that alot of people forget is that: Harry is a normal wizard, just with the power of love and a prophecy, while PJ is half god(big three, mind you) with a prophecy about him as well. Percy's more rare and has more skill, while Harry is basically any other wizard with the power of love

[@arunjoseph3256]

Harry becomes HEAD of magical law enforcement

[@arunjoseph3256]

And anaklusmos doesn't even work against mortals

[@Crimery1]

@@arunjoseph3256 doesn't really change much. its a job, not a trait or ability

[@Crimery1]

@@arunjoseph3256 im pretty sure water does. hell he can fucking blood bend or drown harry potter

[@lucassevey5989]

​@@arunjoseph3256ah but do wizard's count as mortal? Like would them having magic make them enough of a threat to be hurt

[@dannygames4908]

It’s important to remember that riptide would have no effect on Harry, because he is mortal

[@lucassevey5989]

Ah but he's not a regular mortal he's a wizard so I'm 90 percent sure the inherent magic they have would make them vulnerable to celestial bronze

[@CLARKE176]

I’m not comparing the two since both are different lead characters in different situations. Harry is a wizard while Percy is a Demigod, they’re not the same.

[@xadielplasencia3674]

I thought Harry was Emma Thorne 😅😂😭

[@ValdezinatorCaleo]

In Demigods vs Magicians All spells bounce off of Percy and it even says they are immune to most types of magic

[@ValdezinatorCaleo]

Sorry just watched the video and it mentioned this

[@arunjoseph3256]

Most types nit all

[@lucassevey5989]

​@@arunjoseph3256 if I'm immune to 90 percent of the bullets you shoot it's gonna be a hell of a lot harder to beat me

[@Ystose78]

Even if the comparison between characters from two different franchises doesn't make sense in terms of fighting skills, speed and strength, Percy clearly wins. But Percy is a demigod so ofc he is stronger he is half a god Harry is a wizard he fights with a wand and spells, the only problem is touching Percy with a spell because if he manages to touch Percy, he can technically one shot him with a killing curse and knowing that Harry can also turn Percy into a guinea pig, I think it's still close enough for me.

[@arunjoseph3256]

anaklusmos doesn't even work against mortals

[@Ystose78]

​@@arunjoseph3256 Yes, that's a good point! He loses all his sword skills, which would be a real handicap if he had to fight with his fists. Also Harry doesn't necessarily need to hit him directly with other spells that can slow him down, make explosions and so on. Harry can also teleport anywhere to avoid Percy's attacks.

[@PunamKumari-vs7ju]

I know Percy is very strong, but Harry has a chance of winning. Let's see how by thinking practically. See, first things first, Harry has ultra-powerful spells. We will see it through many cases. Case 1: If Percy summons a hurricane (which is the highest feat he can perform with water), wouldn't one Protego Maximus do the trick? Before Case 2, I want to clear one thing. Percy can't tank. He survived Egyptian magic only by deflecting it from Riptide, not tanking. And this is HP's magic, which is way more powerful than puny little Egyptian magic. One Expelliarmus will it take to disarm Percy. I know, you guys will say that Riptide will come back to Percy, but, Expelliarmus is also magical and more magical than Riptide. So, Percy disarmed! Case 2: Percy brings Earthquakes and brings waves and all. Ok, firstly, Percy can reflect bullets, but, he can't dodge all of the spells. Also, now he has no Riptide. Also, Percy has not ever produced Earthquakes except in a Volcano which will not be available in most of the cases. Even if it is there, Protego is also there. Also, Harry can fend off water waves and all for some time. Even if you don't accept the Expelliarmus logic to disarm Percy, there is a spell called Brachiabindo! Which will tie Percy's hands with very strong ropes. Meanwhile, Harry will cast an Imperio to control Percy which will simply end the fight. Apart from that, he can cast an Avada Kedavra. Yes, he has never done that but he can do it when needed. So, Percy is dead! This is my great theory. What do you guys say?

[@dariusporter358]

Percy fought Jason in Mark of Athena and was dodging his lightning. Spells aren’t faster than lightning. He doesn’t need to tank if he can dodge. What is Harry going to do if his spells can’t hit Percy.

[@PunamKumari-vs7ju]

​​@@dariusporter358BRO, WHEN DID PERCY DODGE JASON'S LIGHTNING? IT HIT HIM STRAIGHT IN THE CHEST.😂😂

[@dariusporter358]

@@PunamKumari-vs7ju I could have sworn he did. It’s been years since I’ve read the books. Even if he did or not it doesn’t really matter. Spells aren’t faster than bullets either and here is a direct line from the 3rd book. "The first skeleton fired. Time slowed down. I won't say I could see the bullet, but I could feel its path, the same way I felt currents in the ocean. I deflected it off the edge of my blade and kept charging." P.S. Percy fights much stronger enemies than Harry. Harry’s never had to fight Gods or Titans.

[@PunamKumari-vs7ju]

​@@dariusporter358Bro, he didn't dodge lightning. Even if Percy can dodge bullets, that was one bullet. Spells will be continuous. And, what if Harry APPARATES?☠️☠️

[@PunamKumari-vs7ju]

​@@dariusporter358Bro, yes, Harry didn't had to fight God's or Titan because they are two different universe. Some spells will definitely hit Percy. He can't dodge each and every one of them

[@Blacksmith679]

Hagrid is half giant which are resistant to spells just wanted to let you know

[@HomeAccount-e3r]

I agree that Percy is op, but you do feel he's in danger because he faces enemies who are gods, titans, giants, and the literal Earth.

[@riseoftigh784]

Use the Egyptian books Percy he becomes a god he is faster than Hermes and stronger than Zues Odin and Ra combined he is op put him against the MCU and even Loki probably couldn’t beat him. Also Jason broke out of inchanteted chains and Jason is said to be way weaker than Percy at his base form

[@m8kki]

the thing is that they live in different worlds. like, voldemort is still a human and so is harry. percy on the other side fights titans, giants and monsters, and he himself is half god. yes, he's op, but you gotta be to be the protagonist and save the world by fighting and winning against titans and giants. also, the fact that percy is op it's the exact reason why he shouldn't be born: he's too powerful and dangerous. yet he still need to use his wit, friends and creativity to win and not just pure strengh. i think this doesn't make him a boring protagonist at all: on the contrary, you know he'll win (he's the protagonist and it's inevitable) but you don't know how (sometimes there are situations so unbelievable, crazy and dangerous that you wonder what he'll invent to get out of them). also, being the first serie written in frst person, we don't realise how strong he is until hoo, because he himself boubt about his strengh and always tries to come up with a witty plan, or luck, or friends. just by the end he realises that he can do it and he's still concerned sometimes (he will NEVER consider himself the better, not above luke, the other big 3's childs and even annabeth). i hope i wrote everything right, english is not my first language.

[@arunjoseph3256]

anaklusmos doesn't even work against mortals

[@Luke-hd1mv]

I would say Percy but Harry has more variety like stunning and fire while Percy just has water powers and a bit more but he is more limited

[@redwolf344]

Not only for his powerful offinsive spells but also for his defensive ones. harry can cast spells that will just negate any damage percy throws at him or just teleport away if he needed.

[@D3VILSH45]

You're literally comparing a character possibly can be condiment level versus a character who have barely speed feats barely have any durability feats and ( this is literally hydrogen bomb vs a coughing baby)

[@arunjoseph3256]

Excuse me harry using his max spell power can defeat percy

[@juana_marie]

​@@arunjoseph3256spells can be dodged right? And Percy fought the god of war at twelve💀 and he's somewhat immune to magic that isn't greek or roman, not to mention Percy ripped off a monster's horns with his *bear hands* at 12 years old

[@arunjoseph3256]

If we do this right, Harry will be a decade older, which means he is head of magical law enforcement, andanaklusmos doesn't even work against mortals and Harry has binding spell so if he hits one then he can use crucio then killing curse

[@juana_marie]

@@arunjoseph3256 Harry gangsta till Percy summons a whole ass hurricane and launches the mf out to sea

[@benceszilagyi8442]

While I agree with most of it, I feel the discussion should have included that Dumbledoor is a talented legilimance, and Percy has no particular mind-defense on his side. So, even with invoulnerability, I think that would be something they should exploid...

[@monkeylordomega299]

Post house of Hades Percy would not have that problem I feel like seeing tattrus would destroy dulberdoors

[@benceszilagyi8442]

@@monkeylordomega299 well, yes, that's a convincing point 👍

[@lucassevey5989]

​@@benceszilagyi8442I mean it kinda is I doubt Dumbledore could stomach seeing memories of Tartarus when he won't even kill his enemies

[@gregoryshelley-rn5yr]

Percy would absolutely obliterate anything from Harry Potter Percy can move at relativistic speeds with a destruction capability and durability on a large country level

[@thekakavashachronicles]

Percy can canonically bloodbend so...

[@Mohisha-g9g]

Nah cause fr, if they do meet, they're probably gonna fight cause of one being American and the other British

[@ikanhazw1n]

the commentary felt weirdly biased against Percy and Rick's writing which is, and I can't stress this enough, incomparably better than Rowling's. Percy isn't overpowered, he's just in a setting with much much much higher stakes and scaling. All of those abilities that let any version of him roll through Harry are necessary for him to have a chance. None of his problems are solved by him just being so crazy strong that he can just muscle through the problem like it's nothing. Even feats like him taking over for Atlas and holding up the sky is shown to be something that even Annabeth could manage, albeit not as well.

[@drose44444]

Percy can do something so simple wouldn’t even give a chance to cast a spell. Drowning Harry Potter the night before the fight and done win by default

[@arunjoseph3256]

Harry can summon anything use torture spells and bind him to the ground

[@Toprak4760]

@@arunjoseph3256Percy could tank thousands of curses while being weakend in tartarus harrys curcio spell that made belatrix laugh wouldnt affect hik

[@arunjoseph3256]

If we do this right then Harry will be facing a 7 year old percy

[@lucassevey5989]

​@@arunjoseph3256 and then he'd have to deal with Poseidon

[@Priorrr]

The thing i see most often when people powerscale Harry Potter is that 95% of the arguments people make in favour of him winning are things we simply don't know he can do. Magic can be very versatile and powerful and yet Harry hinself is really not that great at it, he cant do half the things people say he can

[@lucassevey5989]

I always see people say he could just use avada kadavra but like Harry himself wouldn't have the will to cast it

[@Priorrr]

@lucassevey5989 exactly, people seem to forget Harry himself doesn't know many spells. Sure, there are spells that might cause Percy a little trouble, but Harry doesn't actually know how to cast any of them.

[@redwolf344]

@@Priorrr Harry literally taught a class on how to fight in order of the phoenix. He has cast imperio successfully and I'm sure he would do it again. he can also teleport if he needed to stay out of reach of percy's attacks. We are also assuming that harry wouldn't cast the killing curse if he needed. which I think is just wrong. I think harry would just use a killing spell as a last resort to save himself or someone else.

[@spirit8309]

Harry potter vs percy jackson (movies) Harry Potter wins but percy jackson vs Harry Potter (tv shows) so for percy wins but cuz the Harry Potter show is not out yet but when it dose come out can u do a percy vs Harry (tv shows) video pls also amazing video btw

[@orlastarburst]

Also the books

[@Sometotalyrandomguy1305]

Harry Potter wins on movie quality but im not sure he will against movie Percy ethier

[@HeatherNickless-vt8zr]

"Harry Potter" Wizards and Witches are more durable than most of the magical humans from other worlds of fiction and Harry himself could dodge and avoid Percy's melee attacks and he can run faster than 'maybe' a third of the populations of Demi-gods, he is also better at anticipating his opponent's next move than 12 year old Percy can (You Must also take into account that most Demi-Gods from the entire "Camp Half-Blood" series are a lot more easily distracted than the characters from The Wonderous World of Magic), so hitting 11 year old Harry with water attacks would be the real advantage for Percy against such a speedy and resilient character. Yes, Percy can hold his own against giants, but that is where the buck stops, you see Demi-Gods can still get hurt by magic, they might have better resistance to magic than most humans and "'Potter" magic users, but not to the same degree as the Giants from Potter-lore and giants from the Percy Jackson world does not have the full immunity to most magic attacks as 'Potter giants do either, so when he is to battle Harry between 12 years- present all Percy has left to do is dodge and block spells and be the first one to choose the battle field for his advantage for use of his water powers over Harry. You see Percy Jackson would be on a more even playing field in an area without water with a Harry Potter from between ages 12 and 17. Don't forget that the Harry Potter Year 5 novel mentioned that Professor McGonigal managed to survive 3 jinxing attacks at elderly age, and Harry had taken his share of heavy hits all his life, taking on a Hungarian Horntail or a Basilisk snake in Year 4 make battling a Drakon seem like a Sunday school picnic; but we can all agree that Percy Jackson will win most fights against Harry Potter.

[@arunjoseph3256]

And anaklusmos doesn't even work against mortals

[@HeatherNickless-vt8zr]

@@arunjoseph3256; So? Percy is never without his godlike abilities: control of water and earthquakes and he's not bad at unarmed combat either; I bet you were thinking about 12 year old Percy Jackson from before he discovered his ability to cause an earthquake or before he realized his ability to fight and create a tidal wave, he could heal himself and others with his power over water.

[@archelynwolf]

Dumbledore is probably also able to do pretty strong mental spells and we know Percy's mental strength isn't the best so I think Dumbly dorr could win in the end

[@percyjackson386]

I diss argree with who is a better character, in the first book percy only able to dissarm luke after being dumped with water and was not able to do it agee. Demigods are hunted 24 hours a day and 7 days a week by monsters when they are outside of the camps borders.

[@Southaustrade]

peak goku vs peak percy jackson with achille's spell who would win

[@Not_so_daily_memes-7h1]

Think abt it. Percy has a double edged 3ft sword and Harry Potter had a glowing stick. Yea idk who would win. Also Percy could probably sass Harry to the end.

[@arunjoseph3256]

anaklusmos doesn't even work against mortals

[@lucassevey5989]

​@@arunjoseph3256wizards having magic would more than likely allow celestial bronze to hurt them

[@coldermusic2729]

Percy is so op cause he’s a child of the big 3. They banned said children for a reason. Like, how op is Hercules? Percy is like a modern day version of him. If he was the only op character I would be upset. But he isn’t. Nico is just as powerful as percy. Though he’s less skilled in combat his powers definitely make up for it. Being able to jump to anywhere he wants via shadows, bring the dead back to life to serve him, etc etc. dude is literally hades lite. And though not AS op as nico or Percy, both Jason and Thalia are kids of Zeus and are also extremely op. Though Jason dies stupidly and Thalia… isn’t around much so I don’t actually remember her peak 😂 There’s also the rest of the 7, Leo (who can rebuild a ROBOT DRAGON, is immune to fire and can shoot flames from his hands like a fire bender), piper (who acts just like the pied piper, can control people via her voice!!), Annabeth (who is so smart that she was allowed to be the sole architect of Olympus as a TEENAGER) Hazel (who can control the mist like it’s her second hand, can bring any mineral from underground and has a super fast horse) And Frank (who can shape shift into any animal/creature he wants) The rest of the 7 aren’t AS powerful as percy or Nico, but their power makes percy less of a black sheep, and so his op-ness more justified.

[@arunjoseph3256]

anaklusmos doesn't even work against mortals

[@lucassevey5989]

​@@arunjoseph3256but wizards aren't regular mortals

[@CoolGuyGaming.]

Is this even a question

[@en4833]

Percy Jackson is not a Gary Stu for one simple reason. While he is very powerful for a demigod, he's a big fish in a small pond. There are plenty of beings inside his universe who could disintegrate him with just a thought. He is nowhere near the power level of the top dogs in PJO. Even a minor god like Nemesis could just turn him into a bug and squish him if she wanted to. Not to mention, other demigods like Jason Grace are close to Percy's power level, even if he is known as the most powerful. A Gary Stu is a character who never struggles, never needs the help of others, is adored, or at least respected by basically everyone, and is the best at everything. This is very clearly not Percy. Percy Jackson struggled immensely throughout the books, was constantly in mortal peril, disliked by a plethora of characters, and needing to rely on his friends to save him on numerous occasions. It's very disingenuous, and frankly lazy, to label Percy as a Gary Stu.

[@adityasundaram3602]

yeah, people tend to leave out that his toughest opponents are Gods, Proto-Gods(Titans), and genetically engineered God-Killers(Giants), OP in Harry Potter scale yes,Upper Middle tier in his own verse

[@llepicub]

But you keep forgetting that Harry can fly an teleport

[@lucassevey5989]

If he has his wand and enough time to cast the spell he can teleport and he can only fly with a broom Percy always has access to his powers

[@redwolf344]

@@lucassevey5989 You can teleport without a wand and harry can cast wandless and nonverbal spells as shown in the books

[@lucassevey5989]

@@redwolf344 he would still need to take time to focus in the mean time Percy could have already beat him and he's fought people who can teleport before and won

[@redwolf344]

@@lucassevey5989 He doesn't though as shown in the books people can appareate almost instantly. In fact, Hermione has done it to a random place that just popped into her head while she was doing so, also how many of those teleporters that Percy fought were ranged fighters like Harry with a massive variety of abilities at their disposal? You are also ignoring Harry's defensive spells how can Percy hit harry with anything when he just has a dome of protective magic around him? Harry's versatility and counters to Percys abilities would win him this fight. I'm sorry but as strong as percy is harry would beat him just for his versatility in spells alone.

[@viheart]

no powers just fist

[@bjohnson8870]

Percy can curb stomp hatty potter

[@arunjoseph3256]

Harry's better by FAR

[@bjohnson8870]

@@arunjoseph3256 only people who haven't read Percy Jackson would say that. Percy side steps bullets and for a while was invincible. when he was TWELVE he beat the GOD ARES and SAVED OLYMPUS TWICE. Expelliarmus wont even disarm him since his sword appears back in his pocket in pen form, heck he doesnt even need the sword, he can just drown harry. Oh yeah, forgot to mention that he WOKE UP TYPHOON, THE ONE CREATURE THE GODS ARE SCARED OF. And he BEAT HADES IN A FIGHT AT 16.

[@arunjoseph3256]

@@bjohnson8870 Harry can can bind him down, use torture spells and has his own exploding spells, comes back from the dead TWICE, survives on the run with a bounty on his head and becomes head of magical law enforcement. I read percy jackson btw

[@bjohnson8870]

@@arunjoseph3256 clearly you didnt pay attention since Percy has escaped the underworld several times, is hunted by lots of monsters and gods that would just murder harry with ease. Not to mention that Percy has taken explosions in the books and is definitely resilient enough to go through some torture. And if he had water than the fight would end before it had even started since percy can just simply drown him, or use the giant buff he gets and just pull a one punch man and defeat him with one punch. And again he has defeated numerous gods, titans, monsters, etc. The power scaling in the series are different, PJO is more extreme than HP which makes the fight unfair against HP.

[@bjohnson8870]

one more thing Percy can just dodge spells like people have done before and can also just, yk, block them with his indestructible sword.

[@turtle1658]

yeah but WHY would they fight? percy obviously wouldn't attack harry without a reason. not sure about harry, not a harry potter fan, he probably wouldn't too though

[@lucassevey5989]

I think it would have to be the ministry mistaking Demi gods for something else and it just spirals from there

[@fakl-h1q]

couldn't harry just throw knives at him, do a bunch of spells at him etc. etc. Percy wouldn't be able to dodge all that

[@lucassevey5989]

He's dodged LIGHTNING from a GOD so yeah I'm pretty sure he can dodge some pretty lights or knives

[@fakl-h1q]

@@lucassevey5989 the spells would probs be too quick for him

[@lucassevey5989]

@fakl-h1q bro Harry can dodge spells in the books and Harry is a physically normal human being demigods are stronger and faster than normal people

[@fakl-h1q]

@@lucassevey5989 k whatever its a stupid question anyways, they'd probably make friends or something like percy and carter did

[@RedFangMoon]

It’s seems like the “who would win” argument only comes up from the Percy side of the fandom. That could just be my understanding. Percy might be stronger than Harry but that doesn’t change that the Harry Potter books are more popular and that’s really the most I see this argument brought up

[@redwolf344]

To be fair people are giving Harry way too little credit. Harry can literally teleport and cast protective charms and do some massive damage with his spells. literally all he has to do is hit percy with a paralysis spell and percy can't do anything.

[@AyeshaSamin-os5fv]

Bro persy Jackson and Harry potter both ain't real like bruh