Smash Bros Ultimate VS Kingdom Hearts (Sora's Moveset Comparison)

[@RedFlashdrive]

Hey folks. You should make Sora hold a sword or bat in smash. He has the exact same stance like valor form in KH2.

[@ksj3819]

@@misosiru8653 Everyone does not know this.

[@gavinr.3170]

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[@twiphe4375]

@@gavinr.3170 stop advertising

[@brittanynguyen3794]

“Two?!”

[@L0rd_kurogane]

I glad people noticed

[@jethiliusavalar6449]

I don't know why but seeing him twist his keyblade like an actual key gets me so hyped

[@sidneyswope3000]

Wierd thing is that when he sees a chest. He just taps the top of it with the blade instead of using it like a key

[@KE-yq2eg]

@@sidneyswope3000 would take too much time

[@sidneyswope3000]

@@KE-yq2eg it would be asceticly pleasing though

[@caseys2698]

The key twist in his victory screen is so satisfying man

[@PotatoWithALaptop]

@@caseys2698I think the reason is because of the click sound it makes when he turns it.

[@MattSayYay]

Jesus, Sora's voice used to sound so young

[@kit76149]

Hayley has been voicing him since he was 13

[@doctorawesomeness6922]

Because they reused some of his voice clips from KH2 and Dream Drop Distance.

[@MattSayYay]

@@doctorawesomeness6922 I'm not even talking about in Smash, I'm talking about Kingdom Hearts 1.

[@doctorawesomeness6922]

@@MattSayYay oh yeah

[@Jfray252]

Puberty hit him like a truck in KH2

[@kholdkhaos64ray11]

I really love Sora's win poses because not only are two of them references to the KH1, they're also references to Cloud and Squall's win animations in Final Fantasy (which is a hidden level of cute because he only starts doing that after he's met both characters)

[@supermacman]

That’s so adorable

[@jblue88hoodgamer54]

That's so true.

[@silverflight01]

Aww, what a nice little detail.

[@CHEESEPUFF_7]

Oh my god It's so cute

[@Jords250]

Lol nice

[@m.m.2897]

Two things: One, when Sora holds another weapon, he’s in the same stance as Valor Form from KH2. Two, I believe Sora’s third victory animation is closer to something he does in KH3 rather than the summon animation.

[@uzikarina]

I think it's the pose he does when he closes a keyhole in KH II and when he restores kairi's heart in KHIII re:mind

[@m.m.2897]

@@uzikarina I believe so, yeah. It’s hard for me to really nail it down.

[@lucaskincanyon7393]

I thought it was when he deals a keyhole in KH2, but he does that pose so many times, it can be glossed over. Lol.

[@Smoothmagikarp775]

The third victory animation is correct. Watch closely how he moves the Keyblade and he's doing the same stance when he summons Simba.

[@elmonextbot]

That actually originates from the ddd opening

[@Half-HeartHero]

I love Sora's references to FF7 and FF8 in his win poses.

[@Ixbran]

When sora is put to sleep, he takes the same stance he has when losing a round in the calloseum. When using his up throw he tosses opponents like when he uses an item.

[@zichithefox4781]

Ive seen people say they shouldn't have given him a counter, when he's one of the only characters to utilize a counter in his original gameplay.

[@LinkMaster5555]

@@starbreaker6441 yeah it would cover both sides

[@marcjehle2480]

@@LinkMaster5555 but then it wouldnt be like in the actual games at least in the beginning, you could only block attacks in front of you for alot of them but some had some sort of upgrade for the block to block from all sides (like 358/2 Days, aka the DS Game where you play as Roxas)

[@raisylvaine8398]

@@marcjehle2480 Sora actually does get Barrier guards in KH3 with some form changes, so it isn’t outside the realm of possibility that he could have a 360° Counter in Smash. I know his moveset is largely based on KH1 and 2 but seeing as he has Magic Flash, KH3’s in there too. Though I suppose the Shield could be considered his barrier seeing as he holds his arms and keyblade in front of him like he’s using Reflect when shielding

[@flolfiest]

In kh1 spamming counter attack with a high deflection rating went crazy as hell. I was able to shred through some bosses with it.

[@zichithefox4781]

@@flolfiest I used the heck out of Strike Raid for some bosses like Xemnas and Sephiroth.

[@Sjono]

The way Thundaga works in SSBU is taken directly from 358/2 Days where it’s in a straight line rather than KH1’s scattered attack

[@anomaly395]

One thing I love about Smash is that the moves and animations are so one for one that at this rate it feels like you’re just playing their original game. Choosing a character is like choosing what game you wanna play, and that game then just overlaps with another game someone else is playing, while simultaneously being able to hit each other. It’s so awesome. Like I can play Minecraft in Persona 5 or Metal Gear Solid in Kingdom Hearts and the list goes on and on.

[@hyperfixatedd]

Right!? MinMin feels especially accurate to playing ARMS without motion controls

[@WispyBlueBricksGPX]

I love that feeling, like I feel like I'm playing RPG games with the fighters from the RPGs

[@medra4838]

People say this but it’s not true at all lmao

[@LOL-gn5oh]

Then, there's Ganondorf.

[@ClashDev]

Disagree. Super Clash Bros is like that.

[@FlagpoleGlitch]

I like playing Sora, He is my main in the game now

[@asra-5180]

Was? Well that's sad. I though he is.

[@aaronearth1639]

"is"

[@FlagpoleGlitch]

@@asra-5180 No, He IS my main in the game. Sorry

[@toonzach2870]

Sora hitting people with the guard of the keyblade when he's grabbing them.... that just looks painful. In fact, let's be real, the keyblade is probably one of the most painful weapons in gaming. Sure, it's not an actual blade and you certainly can't stab anyone with it, but it's basically a glorified lead pipe. You could definitely bust some ribs and skulls with that thing.

[@kisnettpicart7830]

Maleficent did say the keyblade can multiply the wielder's strength 1000 fold early in kh1. So I'd say the thing is pretty deadly

[@D1TB01]

Really love your origin series, Nintendo Unity! I really love Sora’s moveset, considering that this WAS our imagination turned real by Sakurai, and it feels really good to see an origin video of that.

[@shiningheart5988]

If Sora's Final Smash was Trinity Limit, he'd summon Riku and Kairi instead.

[@champthephantomthief793]

His final Smash should have been Donald and Goofy in Smash Flash

[@hwanniggles187]

@@champthephantomthief793 thats literally Trinity Limit

[@HealingVoice39]

@@champthephantomthief793 yea but they’re keeping the Disney references to a minimum so don’t expect Disney characters

[@sofaris576]

I really like his final smash. It reminds me of Holyangemons Havens gate.

[@leonoliveira8652]

The problem with that is that it's KH1 Sora. KH1 Kairi never touched a keyblade for battle.

[@trellz17]

that og Sinister Sundown ost def should've been in Smash

[@jblue88hoodgamer54]

To be honest in my opinion the best Sora is KH2 Sora hands down an I still happy that he had made it in Smash.

[@TechnicalOtaku]

I like sora the best in KH3 ReMind but KH2 is a close second

[@xylmo1040]

My personal favorite version of Sora will always be KH1!

[@DissedRedEngie]

It's a close tie between 2 and 3 for me.

[@1dayago843]

I think his forward smash is actually closer to his regular finisher in KH1

[@Kizzainpleh]

It should have been guard break

[@chamtheman551]

Even though I'm not a Kingdom Hearts fan, I love the attention to detail, especially the KO effect during HP battles

[@quepongoaqui]

If you pick up and sword, is the same animation than valor form. And when you pick heavy creates, he use the exact same animation in kh1 when you pick up a giant crate

[@noahdean9685]

I feel like Ragnarok should have been sora final smash.

[@knox7945]

Solo Trinity from KH2 should have been the FS imo.

[@Jfray252]

@@knox7945 Or just Trinity with dingo and goofy but it's impossible due to they're Disney's characters

[@s.oddity3640]

@@Jfray252 God i wish they put boy dingo in the game...

[@kuugaku2005]

It should have been just like Mega Man, everyone pointing their keyblade(s) to the enemy and shoot out lasers

[@wanderingmarshadow]

Ragnarok would have been SO much better than just giving him another cutscene for a final smash. Literally everyone in the dlc (sans plant) has a cutscene final smash in some form and I hate it.

[@CodeKirby]

no joke i expected you to cut to smash flash at some point

[@jcplays5831]

Sakuri really went all out to make Sora be the most well designed character in smash for his final character before retiring. I’m not gonna say best or top tier, yet, but definitely the most well designed in terms of moveset origins, Easter eggs (yes I’ve seen the beam sword memes), and hell one his alts had different facial expressions. That’s what I call a sendoff.

[@gr8gmr]

He's not retiring.

[@jcplays5831]

@@gr8gmr retiring smash

[@lynnlynnson4921]

@@jcplays5831 he's not retiring smash either

[@JZJ7777]

He’s not retiring, not in Smash or in general, I don’t believe

[@guidingkeyblade7834]

It would be really cool if we got Roxas as an echo fighter for Sora.

[@Liezuli]

@@starbreaker6441 There's also Days, where he controls similarly to Sora

[@JZJ7777]

DLC fighters can’t have echo fighters. Besides, Sora is the last one.

[@chamtheman551]

If Disney and Square weren't too stingy, they might've given him more voice lines. I'm still glad with what we got

[@damonlopez2197]

Sora could have been so busted if they used his kh3 moveset. Forward smash could've been last charge, neutral air could be aerial dive, down smash could've been explosion, etc. I also would've preferred an ars Arcanum final smash but I should just be grateful he's even in the game

[@LilacMonarch]

Final smash could've been the ultima weapon shotlock

[@SilentSpeedStar]

His ledge animation is from the scene before the Darkside fight

[@twiphe4375]

So: 1. The third winning animation is based on the KH2 keyhole closing animation i think 2. Thundaga is based on Kingdom Hearts 358/Days' thunder 3. When Sora holds a sword he has the same animation as when he's in Valor Form 4. The entire magic command thing where it goes from one spell to the next is based on Birth by sleep's/coded's/Dream Drop Distance's command deck i think Everything else was accurate tho

[@leahcrystalcat4411]

1:31-AKA, Sora’s final smash but 1000x more peaceful.

[@theanimedemonz8753]

the move when sora twirls the keyblade above him is more like the reaction command against pete in timeless river in kh2. its when u are tyring to retrieve the cornerstone of light and need to send object flying back at him

[@scoffeex1740]

Thunder is closer to the 358/2 Days version

[@marcjehle2480]

But only to thunder, thundera was basically electro rain and Thundega was basically one singular strike (sorry if the names were incorrect, i am german and the have translated names in german versions)

[@scoffeex1740]

@@marcjehle2480 it's Thundara and Thundaga

[@Alex_Sanchez99]

I think that the way thunder works in smash is more like how it used to work in 358/2 days xd

[@seandixson1135]

So...much... nostalgia!!!

[@lol_itsxmas8472]

Unpopular Opinion: Dream Drop Distance is a good game

[@blueviper64]

Is that an unpopular opinion? I don’t expect it to be at the top of most people’s list but I thought it was good.

[@TimmysohnLP]

It is a good game! Only the time travel stuff made it unnecessarily confusing. But besides that it is a good game.

[@ozzybornhexson]

I used to think otherwise but returning to it after 3, much better then I remember

[@bevvvy1374]

Unpopular opinion: BBS and DDD are mistakes that never should have been made and are the main reason the story is unsalvageable. Their gameplay is shit and their story is even worse I don't get why people like them besides it being a KH game

[@TimmysohnLP]

@@bevvvy1374 Indeed a very unpopular opinion. I don’t get how people can be so hateful against these titles but to each their own I guess.

[@deadheat1635]

It really is just KHII/KH3DDDD/KHIII Sora in KHI Sora’s body.

[@mbrillon765]

Well DDD is already his KH1 body lol

[@blueblitz283]

You missed Sora's up throw animation, it's his item use animation

[@Kizzainpleh]

Happy he was added. I would have changed a few moves though and used his KH2 model. Forward smash should be guard break. Up smash should be Ripple Drive Down smash could’ve been explosion but I like leaping finish too. Neutral b could’ve been strike raid but idk how they’d fit magic in.

[@mklmyrs5454]

If sora pick up a sword, he will hold it like he hold the two keyblades in valor form

[@Sunkhrist]

What makes thunder so accurate is that it’s the same exact one from Re:Coded!

[@LetterNumber]

5:00 that idle animation is from his KH1 Tinkerbell summon

[@MrVictachi]

Ya missed the walking animations ☹️ no one has noticed he has 3 variants as different movement References.

[@ByRandy732]

It has animations when walking, you just have to press slow.

[@zazisdeckbrewing5971]

His up b is more so based around his KH2 rising Aerial combos!

[@BatteryBatterFree]

Came here looking for this comment. Definitely agree

[@bluetom93]

Here's a challenge idea, The hang ten challenge. With only standard moves and an opponent, you have to last ten seconds in the air.

[@gilb_4]

I was expecting the final smash to be ragnarok or ars arcanum tho

[@sofaris576]

I do find his final smash really cool. It reminds me of Holyangemons Havens gate.

[@leonoliveira8652]

Why not Z A N T E T S U K E N?

[@kisnettpicart7830]

I abused ars arcanum in boss fights because of its invincibility...and also because unskippable cutscenes

[@jacobs5546]

I've never played Kingdom Hearts, and this is interesting.

[@ThatOneLegendEmerald]

By technicality, the way Thundaga works in this game is exactly like 358/2 Days

[@orlandoechevarria9159]

You’re Amazing.

[@Vinripp]

Do you know what I just realized if Mickey was also needed to lock the door does that mean that Mickey and Riku just exploded

[@DissedRedEngie]

Yo mickey dead. Good.

[@paganavenger8920]

What an interesting concept that I am looking at, I’ll have to think about this.

[@--Paws--]

Didn't realize some of those techniques existed, especially the sliding one.

[@leonoliveira8652]

That's Slapshot IRRC

[@--Paws--]

@@leonoliveira8652 thank you

[@firmale1292]

I honestly thought Sora’s ultimate would be the Combined Keyblade move from Dream Drop Distance and once in KH3, but this is good too.

[@benjaminrojas6827]

now that all the DLCs have finally arrived, a video of "which is the projectile with the most distance in the game", or "which is the most powerful projectile"

[@ernestt8398]

The final smash reminds me of when he closed the door after beating Marluxia Credit where credit is due I think this is the most thorough video on his moves

[@pptgyukine8718]

Fun fact to the Valor Form Skin: If Sora has an item (example laser sword) in his Hand and idle, he idle like in KH2..

[@DADA-yt1pt]

That will always be an awesome detail.

[@Everik-ct6pg]

I wish they included Sora's child voice from the first game. It's weird to see young Sora with the older one's voice.

[@TheXDGuy]

Re:com sora has deep voice

[@bomberman631]

2:58 I'm mad that they're basically quickly dancing around like that XD

[@chucuisnt_here]

Most people: Wow that's pretty cool! Me: Wow Cloud probably died for this video.

[@Willchannel90]

Any fighter has easter eggs like combat, during the gameplay.

[@anotherguy7539]

They even bring the same heal Donald uses on you

[@MrScaryPasta]

Young Sora: Take THAT! HYUGH! HA! Older Sora: Take THIS! HA!

[@null.1993]

Would of been nice if SSBU had Organization 13 Spirit D: No.1: No.2: Wolf - eyepatch - uses gun (Xigbar) No.3: Byleth - Spear User (Xaldin) No.4: No.5: Ike - heavy hitter (Lexaeus) No.6: Robin - uses a tome (Zexion) No.7: No.8: Roy - Fire Flower (Axel) No.9: No.10: Joker - Starts with Timer (Luxord) No.11: Sephiroth - with Death Scythe (Marluxia) No.12: Sheik x2 - fast and uses knives (Larxene) No.13: Sora - Boosted Smash (O.Xiii Roxas) Someone help me fill the rest! I’m lost >.

[@Sjono]

We can just all pretend Mickey is offstage but present everytime Sora uses his final smash

[@Yellow-pe7pn]

For sora ultimate I would have used the cutscene from chain of memories where he lock the door on marluxia

[@silverflight01]

Smash: Fire! Thunder! Freeze! Kingdom Hearts: See Ya! Thunder! Deep Freeze!

[@tracyndiyob162]

happy 20th anniversary kingdom hearts!!! :3

[@2cats867]

What about the battering items? He have a dual-wielding who have the same animation like a Valor Form from Kingdom Hearts II.

[@jacktwelve1710]

I just realized all the footage from kh 1 is from the ps2 version

[@destroyermcw626]

Yep

[@WolfMoon351]

Sora’s voice in Smash is obviously pasted on from the games. If so then how come they couldn’t add Sora’s KH1 voice?

[@robraze]

I guess they didn’t want Sora to sound young again despite using the KH1 Sora model, but at this point, I’m used to hearing older Sora as KH1 Sora tbh

[@wedonttalkaboutbruno8008]

if you see this have i hope you have an fantastic

[@Xxblade17]

I would like an fantastic too

[@Player-jh4ko]

Fantastic what?

[@linkmastro4980]

A fantastic

[@iand.7031]

Damn, the voice...

[@TheChompChamp7650]

Sora was higher back then. Where do the days go?

[@awakenmydarling]

the nair version of soras 3 hit combo is based off kingdom hearts 2 and the fair version is based off kh1 with the second hit being a reference to dream drop distance

[@mrtimo3822]

You missed something. When he picks up a second weapon he holds it as if he's in Valor Form.

[@tails5000]

0:32 "Take that" Me: **Taste the pain**

[@kermitsudoku6446]

i think the stamina mode win is a better easter egg than the stance

[@TheG119YT]

Yeah, I wish the forward air ended like that. It would make sense because the Fair sends the opponent horizontally unlike the Nair but oh well.

[@shifty2263]

The thundaga animation actually comes from kh chain of memories on gba not kh 1

[@michaelbrent1536]

Now that Sawyer is it super smash brothers ultimate will see if he’s as strong as his rivals Shulk(Xenoblade Chronicles), Link(Legend of Zelda), Pit(Kid icarus Uprising) and Cloud(Final Fantasy )

[@mr.exposition]

Trinity limit for his fs would be such a boring pick. I'm glad they gave him something unique and contextual of kingdom hearts as a whole

[@hwanniggles187]

Bro what? Trinity Limit is one the most badass moves Sora does with Donald and Goofy

[@mr.exposition]

"with Donald and goofy" And yes he's done it solo but literally defeats the purpose of calling it "Trinity" limit

[@hacksmash]

nah, this FS looks soooo boring, just look at what sephiroth or cloud got, they could've done a better job

[@leahcrystalcat4411]

2:35-when your ashamed but you have to stay confident

[@pennyjpie]

I think Thundaga is actually specifically from Kingdom Hearts Re:Coded!

[@dnmstarsi]

Not gonna lie, I kinda wish they used voice clips form KH1 as opposed to Dream Drop and others.

[@manray1233]

Shoulda been voice clips corresponding to which Alt you used, like using the KH1 Alt would use KH1 voice clips, etc. I would have loved the Timeless River Alt having the old-timey voice clips from KH2FM

[@jostardusklight8365]

I got here more earlier than a dlc release date

[@SuperVada]

I would love more of his Kh1 voicelines on his magic attacks.

[@alexvg6919]

I think the voice it's too childish. The voice lines in smash are from dream drop distance.

[@Jfray252]

@@alexvg6919 I mean he's a child in Kh1, his voice actor was the same age than sora in kh1, but the puberty hit him like a truck in KH2

[@bevvvy1374]

@@alexvg6919 He's literally a child for KH1, his base skin lmao

[@AJENKINS1920]

Sora foward smash looks like upper slash from KH2

[@gameszombie]

actually @ 2:53, this ability is reaction move for neo-shadow.

[@readycedy]

Nintendo be like can we copy yo homework Square:

[@noire.blackheart]

You missed his up throw which is the same animation used when he uses an item in the games.

[@HHAlcide12]

You should have let him pick up the beam sword because he hold it like he's in Valor Form with his Keyblade

[@jackripple5179]

I bet most people who played this BEFORE even get to know Kingdom Hearts probably think the latter is the original....

[@Bigscuv]

he sounds like 8 in his games but he sounds at least 13 in smash

[@QP_lite]

Yeah i guess puberty hit Haley Joel (Sora's VA) like a truck when KH2 came out

[@Touhou101]

Idk why but I was really hoping for a strike raid type of move when he got added

[@mitchellmariacher254]

Did you do one for down tilt?

[@giboi03]

HOLY COW THEY EVEN DID THE FINISH OFF SLOWDOWN

[@giboi03]

@@starbreaker6441 I must havemissed it, sorry, everything was flashy and bombastic And I was probably too used to it to notice

[@RetroCheats]

If you read comments. think you got demonitized for reuploading trailers? Not every youtuber could get away with doing this.. and you might of been targeted. Do you reuse the same clips from your older videos?

[@northernspade1727]

Thunder is from Days, not KH1

[@asra-5180]

You missed a bunch of other animations. Ledge grab, pick up items, getting hurt etc.

[@Vyhox2000]

But where does his crawl come from?

[@timothytzovolos153]

0:34 Richter would like to make a copyright claim

[@Mr.FroggyFrog103]

Since Sora's jump and up and side special are so high can you do a video about Who can jump higher than Sora in smash ultimate

[@Xxblade17]

Nice