Nintendo might as well just give these DOODS the patch notes early, so they can make a video and put on the official website.
@lirfrank4 жыл бұрын
Good idea
@ButterStick644 жыл бұрын
That’d be awesome.
@lirfrank4 жыл бұрын
@Luca Antinori Kinda goes without saying, they'd get the patch early too.
@frappompi4 жыл бұрын
That'd be hella sick.
@SegaDisneyUniverse4 жыл бұрын
Nintendo should've sponsored this video.
@GyanKeis4 жыл бұрын
3:53 Mii Brawler Side Special 3 now connects better *-Fails 2 times-*
@justinjimenez2554 жыл бұрын
@Tiny JohngamerYT lol
@UsingGorillaLogic4 жыл бұрын
Yeah it is why I use burning dropkick the other two special options suck.
@chrispo76104 жыл бұрын
@@UsingGorillaLogic suplex doesnt suck! But yeah, i run BD
@Golden_Hephaestus4 жыл бұрын
He didnt really showcase it correctly, the problem pre patch for suplex was that it would not grab if you do aerial suplex too close to them. A windbox would push you through the character he tries to grab. The new patch fixes that, though the range did get better for catching aerial opponents too.
@zeckemyro70314 жыл бұрын
That's because only the aerial version was changed, not the grounded one.
@TheLobsterCopter50004 жыл бұрын
Slight error: Zelda's up air doesn't have a sourspot, it now has a late hit. The move used to have a duration of 3 frames, and the clean hit still does, but an additional 3 frames have been added on to the end, with reduced damage for the extra frames only.
@4Aridian4 жыл бұрын
Frick that isn’t good we don’t need more toxic zeldas online
@sullivanish4 жыл бұрын
Well I guess i have to ground cancel then
@CaliburDS4 жыл бұрын
@@4Aridian Zelda isn't even good or common
@Carlisho4 жыл бұрын
I mean... its a sourspot. The difference is that the sourspot wasnt there, it was added in later, but its still a sourspot by definition.
@TheLobsterCopter50004 жыл бұрын
@@Carlisho The term "sourspot" usually refers to a weak hitbox that is active at the same time as a stronger hitbox.
@lemonboy54984 жыл бұрын
“Young Link players are so bad that they tricked Sakurai into thinking he needs buffs” -Lima
@bluescorpion61564 жыл бұрын
Lemon Boy right that's what I'm saying how the hell did he get those when other characters moved still don't work
@canbe19454 жыл бұрын
Bluescorpion *coughs in Samus jab*
@offended3234 жыл бұрын
@@canbe1945 It's almost like Samus jab isn't made to combo into itself seeing how reluctant they are to buff it. Crazy right?
@jannemeyer81344 жыл бұрын
@@offended323 yeah Like the in-game tips of samus' moves say
@offended3234 жыл бұрын
@@jannemeyer8134 What do they say?
@GekTC4 жыл бұрын
I have no idea why Yoshi is part of the lot with increased shield size. He is the *one* character that can never get shield-poked, so the egg shield increase is actually a nerf for him. Attacks that barely whiffed before will now connect and cause unnecessary shield damage.
@dragonite20494 жыл бұрын
That's a good thing. Not being able to be shieldpoked is such a huge thing in Ultimate, I like that they nerfed Yoshi's shield.
@Scyxurz4 жыл бұрын
I wonder how much this affects his nair out of shield
@firebal61294 жыл бұрын
@@dragonite2049 The question is, did they know that it would be a nerf, or did they think it was a buff?
@dragonite20494 жыл бұрын
@@firebal6129 given the fact that they buffed shotos and yink I'm not so sure that they know what they are doing lol
@umbra99154 жыл бұрын
Good. I do not like yoshi
@Lampent124 жыл бұрын
Shields: *Get buffed* Byleth: We break those.
@whitedragon30604 жыл бұрын
Lol yea, imagine if they didn't get buffed.
@terakoinfinity95234 жыл бұрын
@@whitedragon3060 it would be fun, for the byleth mains anyway
@V2Nitro4 жыл бұрын
@@whitedragon3060 It wouldn't make any difference because shield health is still the same. The only thing that changed was the physical size of the shields.
@whitedragon30604 жыл бұрын
@@V2Nitro ooooh right so shield poking happens less early I believe?
@HulluMyJullu4 жыл бұрын
@@V2Nitro Which makes them easier to hit.
@soupapowa88674 жыл бұрын
*The amount of Samus & Zelda players on Elite Smash has increased*
@Mute14_4 жыл бұрын
DraconicEmerald Sanity 0
@Lil_Thiccy4 жыл бұрын
Oh no
@kaela-kae4 жыл бұрын
And Young Link
@monfra64744 жыл бұрын
And Ryu
@sullivanish4 жыл бұрын
Actually zeldas neutral special didn’t get buffed so I think it’s the same
@TheLocalman20124 жыл бұрын
"There were a lot of buffs" Little Mac players: *cries in Little Mac Tier*
@hatjousuke4 жыл бұрын
If it makes you feel any better, this is always a source of happiness for non Mac players
@IAm-zo1bo4 жыл бұрын
@@hatjousuke oi josuke 2
@eternal0star4 жыл бұрын
*cries Little Mac Tiers"
@BigOofer14 жыл бұрын
It's fine we had a buff for a patch awhile ago, plus we still got bigger shields in this patch B)
@IAm-zo1bo4 жыл бұрын
@@BigOofer1 lol you get so little that increasing shield is enough to make you guys happy Also they removed the bug where jab could combo into side b up b and into itself
@ZSimm24 жыл бұрын
*Joker Gets Nerfed* MkLeo: *So you are challenging me?*
@djsercy58794 жыл бұрын
MKLeo: *Unlocks his own Persona and does even better after nerfs*
@DarkWolfJr10004 жыл бұрын
Meh. It was merely a slap on the wrists.
@rinzler17674 жыл бұрын
Dude this is sad he just lost a tournament today
@cag_0k6424 жыл бұрын
Rinzler I mean it’s not like he’s unbeatable, he’s gonna do just as good post patch don’t worry
@rinzler17674 жыл бұрын
@@cag_0k642 yeah he is amazing
@you_just4 жыл бұрын
“Sheik’s neutral b has less endlag” Kirby players: zippity zuff looks like we got buffed
@RecordToDeathToBoredom4 жыл бұрын
Has that been the case for all Bs or are you just saying that because you think that's the case? Because that's usually not how it works.
@bigjim99564 жыл бұрын
Kirby’s copy ability, man. It copies neutral B’s.
@ladong6444 жыл бұрын
Only aerial needles
@omarpikm21014 жыл бұрын
jigglypuff mains after the puff gets buff: jigglypuff i guess we got buff
@TheDisarminghinkle4 жыл бұрын
No one ever talks about how these changes affect Kirby. Do we even know if it has less landlag on Kirby? Do we even know if ANY subtle Neutral B change has ever been applied to Kirby?
@anthon85484 жыл бұрын
love the fact that they prioritize buffs over nerfs
@kylewood4488-b9r4 жыл бұрын
Exactly what we need
@cbot93024 жыл бұрын
Definitely will end up making the game more fast passed. Will have to make sure not to over do it though
@milliondollarmistake4 жыл бұрын
I would prefer it if they did a bit of both.
@deadlyfungus154 жыл бұрын
Cado McCallo paced
@KayFiOS4 жыл бұрын
It's like Brawl Minus: If it's broken, keep breaking it until it's fixed!
@TheEpere154 жыл бұрын
Can we get a UI Buff that lets the game remember your character after every match?
@lucasdellamaggiore4 жыл бұрын
And the alt. you were using as well, just like in Smash 4
@yoyoguy1st4 жыл бұрын
The best workaround I’ve found is having a ruleset where you play a set best of 3 or 5. It makes it so you don’t have to re-pick character and stuff every game. Like seriously the CPU’s can do that, why not the player?
@garfunkellarsen18854 жыл бұрын
@@yoyoguy1st Except you can't do bo3/bo5s online :(
@OseiTheWarriors4 жыл бұрын
Yes please
@BogusLettuce4 жыл бұрын
u mean a feature that has been in smash since 1999???
@mute_cebu_4 жыл бұрын
Always worth the wait. Y'all makes the most informative and helpful patch notes of them all. It's the reason I subscribe. Thank you.
@dunbe8364 жыл бұрын
Peyton Mansfield stop lying
@mathyoo18064 жыл бұрын
@@dunbe836 How's he lying?
@dunbe8364 жыл бұрын
꧁ CannoliBoy ꧂ it just a joke
@mathyoo18064 жыл бұрын
Dun Be okay
@ekene48864 жыл бұрын
@@dunbe836 funny joke haha
@Luigikid4 жыл бұрын
I was waiting for that! Thanks for creating these Patch Note Videos for us!
@JosepiThe13th4 жыл бұрын
Luigikid Gaming STAR WARS?!!!
@Synthesssauce4 жыл бұрын
STAR WARS!!!!!!!!
@remarkablezeal95684 жыл бұрын
Meta Knight: *stares off into the abyss, reflecting on the glory days*
@firebal61294 жыл бұрын
;_; (from a Sm4sh main)
@dashmasterboss82514 жыл бұрын
marth: first time?
@remarkablezeal95684 жыл бұрын
@@dashmasterboss8251 Meta Knight: More like the Second.
@Galaxia_EX4 жыл бұрын
@@remarkablezeal9568 Smash 4 MK wasn't that bad though. I think he was still high tier, if not upper mid. I don't play him, but I imagine up air to up b strings and the tornado nerfs probably hurt the most.
@remarkablezeal95684 жыл бұрын
@@Galaxia_EX I mained him since Sm4sh and he desperately needs a buff. I love using the guy, but it feels like I'm using a tooth pick on a marshmallow 90% of the time.
@aisudesu56244 жыл бұрын
This is the best way to do updates. Everyone is like “the shield is bigger” but like how much?
@verde75954 жыл бұрын
a few pixels at best it seems like
@yoyoguy1st4 жыл бұрын
It really only mattered for characters like Rosa, Fox and mewtwo, since they (or in Rosaluma’s cases luma) got shield poked stupid easy
@Player-sz8jk4 жыл бұрын
yo-yo_guy olimar also now cant get shield poked while having a full shield
@LloydTheZephyrian4 жыл бұрын
The shield size increase is actually character-specific. Some got as much as a x1.2 change, while some got less than x1.1
@tribduxv.26394 жыл бұрын
Young Link players: So, did u buff Young Link? Nintendo: Yes! Young Link players: So what did you add? Nintendo: *Expand H O O K S H O T*
@andrezits97234 жыл бұрын
Dev 1: What should we buff in Young Link? Dev 2: Make Zair a combo tool Dev 1: What? He's already got enough combo tools Dev 2: Buff it now Dev 1: Are you su- Dev 2: *Did I stutter?*
@EmeraldOnSwitch4 жыл бұрын
what is a zair
@BVasquezp4 жыл бұрын
@@EmeraldOnSwitch Z- air. Z is the default grab button. Links grab is among the few that can be used in the air as an attack, hitting with the tip of the hookshot.
@panther8844 жыл бұрын
@@EmeraldOnSwitch midair grab, it's called a zair in reference to the z button on the gamecube controller, which is commonly used to grab. Combine z with air for aerial, and you've got zair.
@altshos4 жыл бұрын
One word
@Cool_Beansiest4 жыл бұрын
Also, Zelda players, her F Tilt can kill at 80 now Edit: Turns out it's 70 and it works on Zero Suit and lighter characters.
@bemiatto674 жыл бұрын
O.O
@art16374 жыл бұрын
:D
@nickstory77384 жыл бұрын
@Sans Undertale because she was awful in competitive play
@Ninjaananas4 жыл бұрын
@Sans Undertale She was not glass cannon enough and that move got overshined by other her other moves. But this buff is excellent. Not that it did not kill early before.
@Ninjaananas4 жыл бұрын
@@nickstory7738 No, you just have to learn how to use her.
@vyseskies4 жыл бұрын
best cloud buff was the charge time decrease, holy shit that will help beyond imagination in all areas. That one second of difference is major enough to push him really hard
@Matanumi4 жыл бұрын
Also upsmash is really good...fsmash connects better. Shield works better. Dash attack Clim snaps slightly better... But yes limit charge 1.5 seconds is huge
@mattbergz27914 жыл бұрын
Andreskies yeah its more like 1.5-2s
@BabuBabu-ip6oh4 жыл бұрын
They didn't change his nair, but at least *now it doesn't take longer to charge limit than it actually lasts.*
@finnmarr-heenan23974 жыл бұрын
So he is scrubby again.....great news for non weebs
@Matanumi4 жыл бұрын
@@finnmarr-heenan2397 not even. Cloud plays more fair in Ultimate. His grab is arguably the worst in the game and no where near as much power and long lingering hitboxes smash 4 cloud had
@traxter644 жыл бұрын
Everyone gangsta until Dr Mario finally gets the changes he needed. I’m so ready to curb stomp with Dr Mario’s new D-Air
@darkdoctor19154 жыл бұрын
They buffed his down tilt, it can now combo better
@Kihanacloudy4 жыл бұрын
Except, these aren't the changes he needed. He's still garbage as soon as he's in disadvantage offstage, and he still doesn't have a way to close the gap and actually get through zoning or spacing because he's so slow and has no disjoints. The down tilt buff is actually the most important thing here and BSD showed off exactly why in this video, and the nair buff matters too because you can ledgetrap with it and have it be kinda scary now, because it'll kill at reasonable percents if you read a neutral getup or getup attack with it. Those are good buffs, yes, but what I would do is to let him gain height by mashing with tornado for a few more frames of the move's duration and change nothing else about it. This both gives him more flexibility with the height he reaches with the move and reduce the time he's totally vulnerable falling after using it, bringing his ability to maneuver offstage a little closer to in line with the other characters with bad recovery in the roster instead of being just one notch above Little Mac. Oh, also, buff his run and air speed slightly; he should still be slow, he just hits too hard to need to be quick, but he shouldn't be the 7th slowest character in a game with almost 80 characters, especially when he has no disjoints owing to his character archetype.
@mattbergz27914 жыл бұрын
Kihanacloudy bruh just projectile camp with Pill which is a great projectile and you dont have to get in
@Kihanacloudy4 жыл бұрын
@@mattbergz2791 That's true, and Doc even gets aerial drift after shooting it which makes it easier to make it safe or to follow up, but it doesn't totally fix the issues his speed causes. If he had a bit more air speed, he wouldn't be so much dead weight offstage against so many characters. If he had more ground speed, he could pressure better with his dangerous hitboxes and get chases and followups more easily. I can't count how many times I've correctly read an option but been unable to punish anyway because it took just a few frames too long to position for it.
@mattbergz27914 жыл бұрын
Kihanacloudy yeah that is an issue but he’d be too busted if he was fast
@jaymail48804 жыл бұрын
One of the reasons I subbed to BSD is cause of their amazing editing. Just super smooth and well done. 0:38 is just a small sample of how well they do it. Feels like something a UX designer would do and just feels and looks so good.
@maugos4 жыл бұрын
The thumbnail made me think they extended Young Link's zair distance. lol
@Nipponing4 жыл бұрын
So it's clickbait/a lie?
@The_Ultimate_Faker4 жыл бұрын
Yeah I got really excited for a minute. ._.
@ha1vorsen4 жыл бұрын
People who do stuff like that give me a reason to stop watching their videos
@DerXXLMario4 жыл бұрын
@@ha1vorsen It's not clickbait. They wanted to show that his z-air comes out faster by a photo. It wasn't supposed to look like they would have extended the distance.
@theSato4 жыл бұрын
@@b4llfxrt It wasn't supposed to look like that. It's hard to represent something coming out earlier other than showing it, side by side, further into the zair animation. Anyone who plays Young Link would have seen the smaller chain and known that its longer than that
@dorit0fingerz7324 жыл бұрын
Fixing shields so they work better: no Fixing shields so Byleth can break them: yes
@nickstory77384 жыл бұрын
It fixes some characters shields like Olimar, but most of the characters the got size increases definitely are slightly worse.
@SonicVK4 жыл бұрын
Don't forget the og shield breakers Ryu & Ken
@kingmkg12354 жыл бұрын
Sonic VK Marth: am I a joke to you
@viscosity78934 жыл бұрын
Zelda’s new nair combos are spicy
@Ninjaananas4 жыл бұрын
I wish it would be like in Smash 4, though.
@BRAZOS4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for continuing doing this guys! It's a lot of work but greatly appreciated!
@ssbac984 жыл бұрын
Yes, I was waiting for this
@oDisasterpieceO8744 жыл бұрын
We were all waiting for this
@HulluMyJullu4 жыл бұрын
Akihiko Sanada wants to: Know your location
@link47534 жыл бұрын
@@HulluMyJullu X attack O relent
@ABC-ik9vj4 жыл бұрын
No, posser
@jrizzoc1334 жыл бұрын
Can't wait to use Byleth
@QJD13814 жыл бұрын
"Here you can see all characters who's shield size have been increased" * *proceeds to put a red x over all of my mains* * Well, that's nice...
@Freeeeeeeee274 жыл бұрын
that's exactly what happened to me. Looking through the list like "please let Incineroar and Lucas have a bigger shield" only to be disappointed.
@IAm-zo1bo4 жыл бұрын
Maybe because they don't need it?
@NymNeves4 жыл бұрын
@@Freeeeeeeee27 You play Lucas, you deserve hell. Don't complain please.
@Freeeeeeeee274 жыл бұрын
@@NymNeves wow, that's a lot of animosity there lol
@eaa13384 жыл бұрын
Freee27 i was once playing against a wario player as lucas and i was standing on a platform. It was a last stock situation and he had waft. I held shield until he would do a up-air so i could jump away but He literally clapped me out of my shield (his hands were literally inside my shield bubble) and combo it into a waft. I forgot to save the replay.
@KioKah4 жыл бұрын
Nintendo : *fixes a lot of samus' moves* Also Nintendo : There is no jab 2
@davidhower70954 жыл бұрын
supposedly intentional
@tatarsauce63144 жыл бұрын
Also Nintendo: *Doesn’t fix Falco’s up smash*
@AeroLeaf44 жыл бұрын
David Hower intentional, go to Samus tips and it says that the move doesn’t connect
@AeroLeaf44 жыл бұрын
LeCoolFace yeah, it sucks, but that’s just how it is
@hscar-no8oz4 жыл бұрын
😂
@aadurite4 жыл бұрын
no one: this patch in a nutshell: everybody gets a knockback X diamond sword
@dartfeld98104 жыл бұрын
When Falcon's only main problem is his movement, but they fix his jab. Why.
@gabrielhajjar4 жыл бұрын
For real!!!!
@letsmakeit1104 жыл бұрын
Because every character needs a weakness. Fix Fox's weight. Fix little mac's aerials. Fix lucina's throws!
@gabrielhajjar4 жыл бұрын
@@letsmakeit110 while I agree, I believe falcon has plenty of weakness in his recovery and frame data, but taking a character that is built on speed and aggression and slowing down his movement animations makes for what feels like an unfinished design
@dartfeld98104 жыл бұрын
@@letsmakeit110 That is true. But Falcon's turnaround makes him run backwards. No other character has that problem in the entire cast. It is not a buff at this point. It is a fix, that will make him high tier at best. Falcon has a lot of weaknesses as it is. It makes no sense that he has this problem, and no one in the history of Smash had this problem. It's bullshit and I'm pretty disappointed at Sakurai for not fixing this yet. I appreciate everything that he does, but this one is a no brainer fix.
@leaffinite20014 жыл бұрын
@@letsmakeit110 he has other big weaknesses. Improving his movement would increase his strengths
@DanielKimdanielkim904 жыл бұрын
I always enjoy these side by side comparisons. Keep it up! Great job on getting the video uploaded so quickly!
@IWish25004 жыл бұрын
I’m just glad they’re buffing more than they’re nerfing
@Matanumi4 жыл бұрын
Nerfing would wreck the game...as balanced as it is everyone's happy when their character gets things over losing them. The devs know the philosophy...negative hurts twice as much as a positive
@au_rie4 жыл бұрын
Matanumi did you said the game is balanced haha
@jdrmanmusiqking4 жыл бұрын
@boredaflel The game is incredibly balanced you sound ignorant. Most of the cast sits in top and high tier. Theres only a few "bad" characters that need to be touched. Unfortunately none of them got any love this patch but at least Samus, Sheik, Toon/Young Link have a good chance to move High tier to top tier.
@dashmasterboss82514 жыл бұрын
they haven't fixed marth's tippers or nerfed peach's float cancels
@zsoliddanys10834 жыл бұрын
And the nerfs arent that bad, im cool with this.
@davidosbourne2194 жыл бұрын
Yeah, that’s what Young Link needed, another combo tool
@billbolt94584 жыл бұрын
I'm more hype about SHEIK FINALLY GETTING BUFFED
@AttitudeIndicator4 жыл бұрын
wdym finally she's been getting lots of buffs
@mazder35944 жыл бұрын
sheik is the newest DLC character
@peppinoandweskerfriendsfor34504 жыл бұрын
I wish they were as fun as she was in Sm4sh. They were sick
@DarkMario90004 жыл бұрын
@@mazder3594 This is like when they re-introduced Diddy Kong in Smash Ultimate XD
@bluebatmanvk55354 жыл бұрын
Toon link mains bout to carry opponents across the great sea with that back air buff.
@thecrimsonknight7244 жыл бұрын
You gotta love the fact that Nintendo completely gave up on buffing Little Mac. Classic Nintendo
@JoshP864 жыл бұрын
No one cares about Little Crap anyways xD
@mathunit14 жыл бұрын
Go fuck yourself shit Knight.
@MarcelE804 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU so much for making these each patch! Love you guys
@reeceulf4 жыл бұрын
"Sup, Lex?" "Hey howya doin Mac Punch?"
@StormierNik4 жыл бұрын
6:05 Error here. That picture was passed around by angry Joker mains based off of the correct new version that can be found here: twitter.com/Zeckemyro/status/1222417067456024583?s=19
@darkcat65304 жыл бұрын
People need to know what they are talking about before spreading rumors
Rick H I know right!?!? Our prayers have been heard
@JackMeyHoffer5624 жыл бұрын
@@Carlisho I wonder if me being gimped hard at G7 had anything to do with it....😂
@imcintyre014 жыл бұрын
Me: where is little Mac is he safe is he alright?
@Sh1ranu14 жыл бұрын
KingIceHunter he doesn’t have his foxtrot so uh no
@finnmarr-heenan23974 жыл бұрын
Lil Mac is such a bad time.....he's so scrubby ....oh frame one jab,super armour moves, a counter.....every match is just juggle and edge guard him because trying to have an honest match is pointless
@milky96184 жыл бұрын
It seems in your anger you killed him
@Squidbat4 жыл бұрын
He's in the blast zone already...
@imcintyre014 жыл бұрын
milkyflava thank you! Someone actually got it!
@liquidscreamisnomore4 жыл бұрын
people: YAY JOKER NERF me: YAY SMASH4 CLOUD IS SLOWLY BUT SURELY COMING BACK
@zten114 жыл бұрын
liq when he charges faster than smash 4 cloud...feelsalittlebadman
@bignerd90854 жыл бұрын
im sad that joker got nerfed :( i dont main him i just like him.
@finnmarr-heenan23974 жыл бұрын
Why do people like low effort degenerate characters like smash 4 cloud
@rezafahlevi96594 жыл бұрын
Joker nerf are not that game breaking, ehy peoples think this is the end of Joker?
@theraginginfernape94964 жыл бұрын
Falcon slowly getting more decent. I wait for the day Falcon Punch gets an invincibility frame
@cerdi_994 жыл бұрын
Except the falcon fix doesnt actually fix the problem XD
@JoshP864 жыл бұрын
Looks like they priorities are the spammers :v
@vortex96044 жыл бұрын
Yes! Ken and Ryu's bluffs are amazing!
@hedgehoundable4 жыл бұрын
Everyone gets shield buffs? Nice. Byleth: Shields were buffed?
@shadyfsmusics4 жыл бұрын
@Sans Undertale that is true. Which is why Macs need to use the down variation of F Smash more often Which means we'll get read like a book. *oh no*
@MagnificentBirb4 жыл бұрын
I fear no man, but that thing... *Ryu and Ken buffs* it scares me
@SonicVK4 жыл бұрын
Ryu and Ken with multiple guaranteed shield breaks setups that lead into frame traps and tech chases
@juannaym84884 жыл бұрын
Ken's probably the best character in the game by a long shot but nobody fucking plays this guy because of how wonky those inputs are with the buffer lol
@lexxxthedestroyer63984 жыл бұрын
@@juannaym8488 kens my main i love that character soo much inputs are easy for me tho cant say that for everyone but in any match other than 1v1 it gets wonky
@BabuBabu-ip6oh4 жыл бұрын
@@juannaym8488 He's definitely not the best in the game, *but he definitely is a monster that could even freak out a Pikachu main in the right hands.* Let me put it in perspective: Ken Amateur/Newbie: Higher-Low tier *(D-Tier)* due to inexperience and those hard to perform inputs. Intermediate Ken: Mid-High tier *(C - B-Tier),* likely knows how to perform combo strings for about 25-30% damage but still has a bit of trouble doing it consistently and still has a bit of difficulty with true shoryuken (➡⬇↘) some trouble with O-Geri (⬅↙⬇↘➡). They'll still have a misinput here or there. Experienced Ken: Easily High tier *(B+ - -A-Tier or A Tier)* in the right hands, knows how to use Ken's tools to their full potential, and rarely misinput. They are able to effectively combo, pressure opponents, break shields, and kill. Probably also a parry god.
@juannaym84884 жыл бұрын
@Babu Babu I can see why saying that he might be the best character in the game can be controversial, however, I can't think of a single character with the potential of Ken He has absolutly no weakness. He's agile, strong, has kill power, insane combo game, great defensive abilities, the only thing that might not be great about him is probably his recovery but even there, I feel like that mix ups of Side and Up B can do a lot to make it less predictable It's just that his skill floor is very high. Even if you can reliably do the inputs, his combos are still hard to do and in normal situations, choosing between all the different attacks and possibilities he has is rather hard If he's really the best in the game, I mean sure that's questionable, but I feel like there's no doubt that what holds him of the most from climbing up tier lists and tournament placements is just that in the time you learn him, you can also learn Pikachu, Palutena, Joker and PT in a row
@LightningCayo4 жыл бұрын
Finally somebody covered the Mii Brawler changes, while other channels outright ignore the character. This makes me a happy Mii main
@bionicallyacomputer2924 жыл бұрын
3:28 YIKES THATS HUGE. POOR ZSS
@kylewood4488-b9r4 жыл бұрын
Mikael Hockaday It's not that big of a deal. Shiek looks to be getting back into high tier again though
@slenderfoxx37974 жыл бұрын
She cant get a break. Ever since they nerfed her figure from smash 4 lol. Same for snake.
@mazder35944 жыл бұрын
@@slenderfoxx3797 Rule 34 does what Nintendon't
@Yokai_senpai4 жыл бұрын
"Captain Falcon's jab should now connect better into itself." Lol it doesn't.
@verde75954 жыл бұрын
"better" =/= 100% perfectly
@elguaro34 жыл бұрын
@@verde7595 the buff did literally nothing, the problem with Falcon's jab is in jab 2, they buffed jab 1, so it's still as bad as it used to be before this patch
@goblingamer6064 жыл бұрын
Ive been playing tonight and im getting like 20% every time i jab lock someone. Seems pretty good to me
@verde75954 жыл бұрын
@@elguaro3 All the jabs sucked ass.
@lidofzejar4 жыл бұрын
@@goblingamer606 The hitbox changed so the outer pulls in. The problem is the issue was more in that both of falcons jabs hit high as fuck and have no range. Before, you consistently missed on Greninja. Now you miss Greninja, but also on wide characters because the middle hitbox pushes them away with priority. So I guess if you're fighting like another falcon it's good because you can outspace and pull in with jab 1 when they do a turnaround, but otherwise the buff has ironically made it more difficult to catch aerial opponents and wide opponents with falcons jab because it has a tendency to push people away.
@DanDaDotman4 жыл бұрын
2:25 Zella side speshuuul
@Smokin_Snowman4 жыл бұрын
2:37 damn, the doctor is IN
@ezra60944 жыл бұрын
Fixing the shields is actually huge for Rosa
@lightning43224 жыл бұрын
I love how after marth mashed out of Zss down b, he countered and said "nice try"
@Shinstrikex4 жыл бұрын
I love the part how he's probably the only char in the game who hasn't been buffed , who also desperately needs it and yet, here we are
@Shinstrikex4 жыл бұрын
@Sans Undertale wouldn't say I have the right to call myself a Marth main anymore. As I use Roy much more nowadays, but yeah i used to be a marth main up till ultimate.
@Shinstrikex4 жыл бұрын
@Sans Undertale they at least buffed mac once though. they never touched Marth since the launch.
@NoName-st4tw4 жыл бұрын
Loving the patch note videos. I wanted to check the patch notes earlier, but I waited for these guys to release the patch note video. Keep up the good work.👌
@tommynguyen81644 жыл бұрын
Ryu and Ken just keep getting buffs lol. The devs seem to really want to draw more people into playing them. That makes me really happy as a Ryu/Ken main
@au_rie4 жыл бұрын
Tommy Nguyen i like ryu
@cerdi_994 жыл бұрын
i will very likely main ken when i get my hands on the game
@Angelzvx4 жыл бұрын
They care more about making Ryu good than Capcom does.
@cerdi_994 жыл бұрын
@@Angelzvx is ryu bad in sfv?
@joelxala66204 жыл бұрын
Sometimes at night I get down on my knees and pray to have Akuma in smash...but then I realize it's Nintendo (╥﹏╥)
@christopherdelacruz97284 жыл бұрын
#fixfalcon Why does he still have a 14 frame turn around that moves you backwards? He is the only character in smash history with this issue
@jp37184 жыл бұрын
Cries in Mewtwo
@cerdi_994 жыл бұрын
@@jp3718 falcon's is even worse X'D
@linkonar78234 жыл бұрын
I think it's ridiculous how a lot of people say Falcon isn't even decent because he's certainly more than above average despite these sorts of weaknesses. I can only imagine if they patched the things they needed for him.... he'd be a monster.
@christopherdelacruz97284 жыл бұрын
@@linkonar7823 he wouldent be any more special than the other rower houses so why not make him more fun and smooth to play?
@linkonar78234 жыл бұрын
@@christopherdelacruz9728 I wouldn't be opposed to some buffs because there are definitely some things he needs to make him better. All I'm saying is that Falcon by no means is an awful character as he is.
@migueldark0244 жыл бұрын
Do a video of the changes in ver. 8.0.0
@Phoenix_The_HeroHater4 жыл бұрын
Pls do
@Matanumi4 жыл бұрын
Of course they will. These vids take time
@blinxtheredone68444 жыл бұрын
Wicked job on the video dude. Quick upload with good commentary and editing. I assume you have 2 switches and you update one to compare the two. Sweet
@jojonr6194 жыл бұрын
You guys are awesome for making these. It helps out the rest of us trying to get better
@briangeer10244 жыл бұрын
0:58 is literally all i came for
@rock85cool4 жыл бұрын
All I had to hear was Shiek buffs.
@Matanumi4 жыл бұрын
And yet more still months later. Devs have favorites in mewtwo, sheik and corrin
@UMAtronic3 жыл бұрын
It made me happy that she got stuff, but i still want a few things for Bayo, hopefully next time.
@bionicallyacomputer2924 жыл бұрын
4:08 rip
@succulent_carlos76424 жыл бұрын
You guys are super quick with these update videos.... the smash community appreciates it 🥳🥳
@Leotheanimal874 жыл бұрын
Waiting for this video all day! Thank you! Keep up the awesome work!
@rhos98734 жыл бұрын
this what we all been waiting for
@Fuelcut994 жыл бұрын
Finally the tatsu can avoid projectiles as intended in their original games
@davidecimino71124 жыл бұрын
Dunno if I’m really satisfied with this patch like, whose feedback was brought into account when deciding this changes
@JosepiThe13th4 жыл бұрын
Davide Cimino Elite Smash results...
@juneru24 жыл бұрын
@@JosepiThe13th if that was the case zelda and samus wouldve been nerfed lol
@Txukasa14 жыл бұрын
@@juneru2 👀 you really think samus is ranked that high in elite smash lol
@Mitchmckeeguitar4 жыл бұрын
@@Txukasa1 it's very likely. Characters that can follow a flowchart, use projectiles, and have devastating heavy attacks are much better online with the latency and input delay, since the opposition literally has a harder time reacting than they would in person
@nasher994 жыл бұрын
This patch was amazing, even the shield buffs were wanted by some character discords (kirby discord). Pretty much every low to mid player i’ve talked to about sheik had said they are bad and needs desperate buffs. It seems they were looking at lower level players feedback and noticing how many shieldpokes were happening because shield tilting is not something you learn early on.
@Master0rochi4 жыл бұрын
I always wait for you guys to release these videos, they are the most helpful
@ShaiGonzalez4 жыл бұрын
I was waiting this video since yesterday Thank you
@ziqi924 жыл бұрын
I really wish Incineroar had the shield buff. Revenge is not enough in dealing with projectile heavy characters.
@yourehereforthatarentyou4 жыл бұрын
same
@Freeeeeeeee274 жыл бұрын
all we can do is suffer with our measly shield.
@Ecl1psed2764 жыл бұрын
1:55 That's the first time I've ever seen anyone at 0.1% lmao
@razeboxanimations32154 жыл бұрын
Lol
@emmamora74 жыл бұрын
Well, at least Joker is more tolerable to us, Dedede mains. Good patch, Byleth is cool but Dedede is perfect & is immeasurably superior but still, good character.
@fudouakio47594 жыл бұрын
Preach!. Sucks we can't inhale reflect the fully charged Failnot arrow though
@Blue-eu5qn4 жыл бұрын
Would being able to inhale people who attack Dededes giant gaping mouth suck really be op? Im tires of getting kicked in my face while inhaling and getting attacked straight on.
@emmamora74 жыл бұрын
Blue, use the move when there’s a projectile & not getting barraged by them thanks to mega man. You should also use the move to suck & cuck but when you don’t meet either of these criteria, just use it when jump backward to avoid any normal melee attack. When the character is fast on the ground like Sonic or little Mac, rush back & b-reverse the move. (Press 🅱️ & move to the opposite direction to change the direction of the attack, as well as your movement) If it’s Jigglypuff or Wario, wall them out with bair, until they decide jumping is useless. Then use the method for fast characters.
@KidNoraa4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the side by side comparison style it helps a lot!
@enamstarwalker4 жыл бұрын
Man, I really appreciate these vids. Keep it going beefy!
@Imora4 жыл бұрын
*Arsene dissapears quicker when joker is hit* _Thanks EVO 2019 for putting sakurai to nerf joker's arsene AND GUN'S HITBOX FINALLY_
@rezafahlevi96594 жыл бұрын
Bruh his nerf are not game breaking, in fact now he's need more time to be mastered once more
@cronasan69314 жыл бұрын
I really like the Kara cancel with shotos that’s super cool but I’m sure it’ll get patched anyways good shit as always beef bois
@hatjousuke4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for highlighting their blatant disregard for Marth's need for buffs by demonstrating the Arsene nerf with Marth sourspots! #TipAwareness
@kunai_kazekun4 жыл бұрын
Toon Links Dair got buffed in Damage regardless of the hit. Wasn't mention in the patchnotes. So weak and strong hit deal more damage.
@davidsalamanca81234 жыл бұрын
i have to congratulate u, i can imagine u having a 2 setups and comparing all this things, not only what nintendo says they patched, but everything, then do a good edition to show everything clear and also uploading it really fast, that is truly mazing, ur the only channel in youtube that do this, and i always waiting for the video before every patch, ur so good, and do a great job
@DeepFreier4 жыл бұрын
I'm so pissed they still haven't fixed Sonic's up air man
@JosepiThe13th4 жыл бұрын
Michael Freier Good. Keep Sonic as a trash character. It’s better than dealing with his toxic play style.
@DeepFreier4 жыл бұрын
JosepiThe13th oop we got someone else that's salty sonic is in the game and doesn't deserve anything the other characters do
@nathanevans13824 жыл бұрын
@@JosepiThe13th You do realise that Sonic mains have a "toxic" playstyle because he's trash, if he got buffed, they wouldn't have to camp so much.
@glalactic55934 жыл бұрын
@@nathanevans1382 the whole point of uair getting buffed is to make this play style easier...
@nathanevans13824 жыл бұрын
@@glalactic5593 I'm not talking about up air specifically, as far as I'm concerned, we don't need 2 spin dashes and bunch of terrible throws, screw buff, Sonic's entire moveset needs changing!
@JG_Wentworth4 жыл бұрын
I feel like the shield update is going to be the least noticable overall, but with a big effect for the characters effected. Jokers aerial gun and arsens timer getting nerfed when hit are going to be big on Joker counterplay, since it was really easy to get trapped by Jokers aerial neutral B when playing as a character susceptible to attacks like that, and waiting out Arsens timer is going to be a lot easier given how comparatively short it will be now. Those are the only real *major* things I see other than Zero suit getting her bury nerfed, that's going to be much less annoying now.
@Andrew-fu9sm4 жыл бұрын
"toon links zair stays out longer" shows it whiffing twice
@bjornvdb1854 жыл бұрын
"A little longer", the hitbox didn't increase in size so it is still pretty hard to hit on toon link. It is different from young links.
@idealyst82924 жыл бұрын
It's fucking depressing. Young Link got buffed way harder for no reason.
@jimjamjoo79384 жыл бұрын
I will never know how you pump out these update videos so fast at such good quality... Keep up the great content! Love from the UK
@JosepiThe13th4 жыл бұрын
Jimjamjoo They work so hard for all of us
@llliwwille4 жыл бұрын
Two little Toon Link details you missed were adding one or two active frames to back air and zair now does more damagw
@danielamaral85234 жыл бұрын
Who else just waits for this every new patch lmao
@nickiminajonetta61674 жыл бұрын
i was waiting for this all day!
@Kurayamiblack4 жыл бұрын
Falco: "Mr. Sakurai? I know I was insanely popular in Melee and you want other characters to shine with each new game but... How much longer until you fix my up sma-" Sakurai: "STOP. You stepped out of line, please go to the back of the line and continue waiting" Falco: "But-" Sakurai: 😒 Falco: "...ok" 💔
@TheGunFreak944 жыл бұрын
God this was autistic to read
@JackMeyHoffer5624 жыл бұрын
😂 #BackOfTheLine
@Serralas4 жыл бұрын
@@TheGunFreak94 Wtf does that even mean?
@ElToland4 жыл бұрын
Everytime there's a new update patch, I look forward to your analysis. Thanks! BTW: Looks like I'm the only one who's still waiting for some Simon/Richter recovery buff
@JoshP864 жыл бұрын
Yeah you're the only one LOL
@89Valkyrie4 жыл бұрын
Came over from Zero's channel. Subscribed instantly!
@boscojokey38294 жыл бұрын
Ah yes, just what young link and palutena needed Buffs
@kreive47194 жыл бұрын
Well, all we Yink mains got was another good combo tool with multiple confirms, more raw killpower, and a kill throw. Not tooooo big of a change.
@bluebatmanvk55354 жыл бұрын
Bruh Palutena got nair nerfed they needed something.
@runterranger73984 жыл бұрын
Young link ain't broken and palu is worse, nair won't kill by itself as much anymore and down throw getting more knock back makes her down throw to Bair much worse.
@Sir_Toppin4 жыл бұрын
Corrin's down throw feels different now, like the enemies pop out sooner but corrin still has the same lag, making it more difficult to follow up after a down throw, can anyone confirm this?
@finnmarr-heenan23974 жыл бұрын
Good hopefully everybody drops that Boring as character....but they will probily just play with boring ass byleth instead
@TheBrimmyRat4 жыл бұрын
Little mac:"Can I get a buff?" Sakurai:Lol want more shield size Little mac:"wait wha-" EPIC LITTLE MAC BUFF 100% HAHA MORE LITTLE MAC LITTLE MAC IS BUFFED HAAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA YES HE NEEDS NO MORE BUFFS BECAUSE HE IS REALLY GOOD AND NOT A BOTTOM TIER AT ALL
@perkypears4 жыл бұрын
i fought a mac today with byleth and just throwing him offstage and pressing side b felt so gross i feel so bad for this character
@Xis664 жыл бұрын
Hha haaa nope! Good for good ass
@cyroflare61674 жыл бұрын
@@perkypears I can feel that. I used a Pit and got a Little Mac off stage in a bad position.
@sourthecat4 жыл бұрын
imma say this again but the way you say "knockback" and "special" is just fucking satisfying lmao
@TheIrmak754 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Always checking these videos out after a patch.
@BattleBlits4 жыл бұрын
I like how Ryu and Ken are slowly turning into the equivalent of meta knight in brawl
@Matanumi4 жыл бұрын
Not really...you clearly forgot how busted MK brawl was
@brittmccall26184 жыл бұрын
I literally yelled when ken broke a full shield
@Blue-jn1ph4 жыл бұрын
Ok and
@dashmasterboss82514 жыл бұрын
patch 7.0.0: exist palu and joker: my time has come
@Matanumi4 жыл бұрын
Eh plau and joker are still sick
@dashmasterboss82514 жыл бұрын
@matanumi nerf is nerf
@RaikoEnjoyer4 жыл бұрын
1:00 I see the shield poke hitting luma not happening but the posture for luma or Rosa didn’t change or if it did what was it?
@Elpizo14 жыл бұрын
Posture didn't change but before shielding really did nothing to protect luma (just covered rosa) compared to now. Keeps luma from flying away on hit when you shield better and longer. (Rosa main here)
@RaikoEnjoyer4 жыл бұрын
Elpizo1 oh ok didn’t notice that
@impalaO74 жыл бұрын
I always appreciate these patch comparison videos. Great work!! And thank you! 🙏🏽