The Reality of Stock Engines & making power; Subaru WRX STI

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Smeedia

Smeedia

Күн бұрын

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@motoiq
@motoiq 3 ай бұрын
I agree with this 100%. I tell customers 330 hp on shit California gas, 390 with E85. If all is right, this is track day safe. A little more is possible for short duration like street use. This is if the tuning is perfect, the fueling, cooling, and everything else is great, and the engine is in good shape to start with. At higher power levels you are one knock event from killing it so it is all about the tuning. The tuner has to be smart and understand Subarus.
@AustinSawyer-go4sd
@AustinSawyer-go4sd 3 ай бұрын
Having motoiq commend your videos has to feel legendary
@TheMarg28
@TheMarg28 3 ай бұрын
Hey bro We get 99 in the uk and I'm currently running 360bhp on my 2016 sti Plan is to upgrade my turbo, injectors and fuel pump and have it mapped up to 400/410 What's your thoughts on this buddy ?
@Null-h8j
@Null-h8j 3 ай бұрын
@@TheMarg28 Don't compare EU octane ratings to US so get that straight first
@TheMarg28
@TheMarg28 3 ай бұрын
@Null-h8j Whats the difference ?
@Null-h8j
@Null-h8j 3 ай бұрын
​@@TheMarg28 Google to see what the equivalent is since I don't know exactly but I know EU octane ratings seem higher but are equivalent to lower in the US
@HeavyMetalWRX
@HeavyMetalWRX 4 ай бұрын
The glasses are on..that means class is in session!! 🤓
@Smeedia
@Smeedia 4 ай бұрын
I needed my super vision for this 🤓
@HeavyMetalWRX
@HeavyMetalWRX 4 ай бұрын
@@Smeedia Your Suparu Vision 🤓🤓
@chrislancaster6986
@chrislancaster6986 4 ай бұрын
@@Smeediathat’s a dad joke. If you aren’t already a dad, then you now know that you’re ready
@k3nnyr0g3rs
@k3nnyr0g3rs 3 ай бұрын
Pushing 360whp (mustang dyno) in a stock block 20 year old Forester. It's been on this setup for about 15k miles. 20G turbo and all the bolt-ons. Classic 92 pump gas in WA. I did all the work myself and credit Tanner for the help. There was a Smeedia video for damn near every mod. WHEN the day comes that my engine lets go I'm coming right back the channel to learn about engine building!
@Holmesson
@Holmesson 3 ай бұрын
A man after my own heart. I wish you all the turbo boxer fun in the world, sir! Cheers 🍻
@captainmikek8695
@captainmikek8695 3 ай бұрын
360 WHP is max. Don't get greedy.
@ryanc2360
@ryanc2360 4 ай бұрын
Been running my Ej207 version 8 at 400whp for 4 years as a track build. A good tune and reliability mods like AOS, Cylinder #4 cooling mod, Killer B pickup and baffle = A long lasting stock block Ej207 is built better for the abuse
@Smeedia
@Smeedia 4 ай бұрын
The thicker cylinder liners in the 207 are a huuuuge thing with factory blocks 🔥
@DeweyWRX
@DeweyWRX 4 ай бұрын
Rod ratio helps a lot with that too.
@nathanielgates2863
@nathanielgates2863 4 ай бұрын
So youre telling me if my ej blows up to use a 207
@ryanc2360
@ryanc2360 4 ай бұрын
@@nathanielgates2863 ya my car originally had a ej255. The ej207 version 8 has big port heads, equal length headers, a twinscroll turbo, no tgv's in the intake manifold from factory, more aggressive cams, and an 8k redline.
@nathanielgates2863
@nathanielgates2863 4 ай бұрын
@@ryanc2360 Sounds like how they should all come lol
@levimillsaps769
@levimillsaps769 3 ай бұрын
Better than any engine build how to on KZbin. Awesome info, think I'll build my first one this coming year
@TheCarGuy91
@TheCarGuy91 4 ай бұрын
This is good advice. My 05 was rebuilt. Stock internals with bolt ons and all the supportive mods I learned from you. Slightly bigger turbo. If I could walk away with 350-370 I’ll be happy. Always appreciate all the advice you given all of us. 💯💯💯💪💪💪
@Smeedia
@Smeedia 4 ай бұрын
Should be a solid stopping point right there with plenty of power to have fun with 🥳
@johnrosciolo8640
@johnrosciolo8640 4 ай бұрын
I’m at 340 rn feels great
@rustyshackleford81
@rustyshackleford81 4 ай бұрын
Left my 06 build open deck with the reason being I've got 3 boys under 10yrs old. Let's handicap this joker at 500wheel. After you've planned 400+ rods/pistons/ID1300s/fmic/ there's really only a second fuel pump and a big ole rotated snail away from 500+
@TeamCupNoodles-nn9og
@TeamCupNoodles-nn9og 4 ай бұрын
Lmao this video comes out the same day Devin rips his 800hp stock block car. Godspeed Devin.
@Smeedia
@Smeedia 4 ай бұрын
You and I both know Devin got back up engines on hand 😂😅
@irlredline7965
@irlredline7965 4 ай бұрын
His Evo X or WRX?
@rustyshackleford81
@rustyshackleford81 4 ай бұрын
Here for a good time, not necessarily a long time.
@TeamCupNoodles-nn9og
@TeamCupNoodles-nn9og 4 ай бұрын
@@irlredline7965 it was actually his evo. Watched it earlier and thought it was one of his subbies. Still 800hp on stock internals
@JDiidi4PF
@JDiidi4PF 4 ай бұрын
@@irlredline7965evo x
@z203_sti
@z203_sti 4 ай бұрын
Currently making over 600 whp on my original STOCK engine. Tuned by @JRtuned. Ets rotated kit with gen 2 precision 6466 on e85. Here for a good time, not a long time 😅
@Smeedia
@Smeedia 4 ай бұрын
I’m all for it my guy 😂😅
@thrillingd
@thrillingd 3 ай бұрын
JRtuned is awesome. My 2015 STi still going strong with his magic.
@gripwerxracing
@gripwerxracing 2 ай бұрын
FA series block?! Ej would just go 🤯 at that lol
@ALW96
@ALW96 2 ай бұрын
@@gripwerxracinghe’s running ej
@gripwerxracing
@gripwerxracing 2 ай бұрын
@@ALW96 that’s impressive as hell. Open deck, stock internals?
@KentSwanson-ol7ht
@KentSwanson-ol7ht 3 ай бұрын
My 2011 sti is going on 5 years and 29000 miles on my 412hp 402 tq stock engine block. Full fuel system iag AOS Cobb front mount equal length headers and a blouch dominator 5.0xtr
@jacklin9768
@jacklin9768 4 ай бұрын
really helpful information Tanner! my 17 sti finally makes power after contact with you, and it has so much fun even not making full power.
@Smeedia
@Smeedia 4 ай бұрын
Eyyyy what’s she making right now? 🥳
@jacklin9768
@jacklin9768 4 ай бұрын
@@Smeedia 320 at e70. the clutch is on the way out. so dial the power and torque it down, as it is my DD. so much fun
@joeolson6623
@joeolson6623 4 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@Smeedia
@Smeedia 4 ай бұрын
The supports always appreciated Joe! 🫶
@m0rjjj666
@m0rjjj666 4 ай бұрын
To the B22 fund Is there a point in going for a super built engine if I don't have access to E85 and/or it's very hard to get it where I live? Do I need to get it closed deck, forged pistons, ARP studs if I will never fill it with E85? What would your advice be for pump gas? PS. Love your content ❤
@Smeedia
@Smeedia 4 ай бұрын
Appreciate the support my man! And tbh that’s kinda a hard question to answer without more info. You don’t NEED E85. You can make good reliable power on pump gas as well. As for a closed deck that really depends on your power goals, boost target etc
@m0rjjj666
@m0rjjj666 4 ай бұрын
@@Smeedia My goal is 300-400 HP. But everyone I ask says: you can't make that power "reliably" on pump gas.
@Chimpist0
@Chimpist0 10 күн бұрын
@@m0rjjj666 you definitely can. 400hp on 91 is not uncommon
@josephmatuszak3855
@josephmatuszak3855 4 ай бұрын
As a dyno guy... I seem to see that 430whp is about the end of what may stay together(stock block daily), and that's assuming good fuel and not doing sustained side to side G-Load. After that I feel it always benefits the user doing something more substantial in the block/heads/gaskets. Depending on the "stock block" year/type though, you could be only safe around 350whp...
@Smeedia
@Smeedia 4 ай бұрын
I’ll tend to push it a little farther but definitely depends on a lot of factors. I’d say 400 is typically a good spot to stop where you can get some decent life out of the engine as well. Drivers style also plays a HUGE factor
@longdomedia
@longdomedia 4 ай бұрын
400whp/300kw seems to be the happy max spot for 207/257 from what I've seen here in Aus, not sure if we got the RA blocks or not in the 2019 onwards sti.
@proximitybeejay3673
@proximitybeejay3673 4 ай бұрын
@@longdomedia lol. Had a few now and i would go as far as saying 250 kw MAX and every day you wait lol ( Aussie also )
@longdomedia
@longdomedia 4 ай бұрын
@@proximitybeejay3673 i know of atleast 5 people thats been running 300kw+ on stock blocks for literal years at this point, infact 1 05 STI has been running at 350kw and beaten every week for 3 years. Either luck of the draw or crap tune
@nathanielgates2863
@nathanielgates2863 4 ай бұрын
Would you say that how people drive them is the biggest factor you see in engine failures?
@tranmabirizi4505
@tranmabirizi4505 4 ай бұрын
i want to build my first block with these videos and the first purchase was a big table to hold everything lol
@Smeedia
@Smeedia 4 ай бұрын
Having a good table makes a huge difference. Those fold out tables get sketchy 😂😅
@_STI
@_STI 2 ай бұрын
700hp/535trq on a semi open deck block tuned by yimisport raced the car for 4 seasons at the 1/4 track and local street racing still holding strong. It all depends on who built it what parts it’s running and most importantly the tuner
@dilliondelisle5371
@dilliondelisle5371 4 ай бұрын
I have v7 207 and I'm still here watching lol interesting to watch and still learn a couple things along the way.
@john-danielmartin8753
@john-danielmartin8753 4 ай бұрын
Professor Smeedia is lecturing folks gather round
@Smeedia
@Smeedia 4 ай бұрын
🫡🫡🫡🫡
@stephngibson5517
@stephngibson5517 4 ай бұрын
I love listening to you talk man these videos are my favorite definitely wish you made more videos of you talking live stream more or even had a podcast!
@Smeedia
@Smeedia 4 ай бұрын
I’d make more but I feel like I’ve covered most topics 😂😅
@ichiroudesu_.
@ichiroudesu_. 4 ай бұрын
Wow what coincidence.. I was just stuck on the fence about this last night as my 4.44 Tranny and JDM EJ205 was my limiting factor for my 20G on e85. I was told my power goal of 450 is very much possible and with this explanation, I feel kind of confident in sticking with stock block.. As my bugeye is a DD
@Smeedia
@Smeedia 4 ай бұрын
450 is where your flirty with danger. Just keep that in mind 😅
@ichiroudesu_.
@ichiroudesu_. 4 ай бұрын
@@Smeedia Ahaha I only truly want 400 but just knowing where my headspace is, is really helpful. Thank you so much for the info on the 2.5!
@its.Andy1
@its.Andy1 Ай бұрын
This makes me appreciate the evo x a lot more. Mine is at 500whp only on 93 pump gas, stock original motor (except for built head) with 166k miles.
@Demonwolf86
@Demonwolf86 4 ай бұрын
love the info i am going on 3 years on 416 whp and 456 torque on stock block but i maintain the hell out i think maintaice is key
@SupraSav
@SupraSav 3 ай бұрын
Had a 2.5RS that had a JDM Ver.5 swap. Blew up just driving normally on a cold night, about 5 minutes into my drive, no aggressive driving, nothing. Judging by the mix of colours pouring out from under my car it was not worth rebuilding and I sold it. Meanwhile, my e92 335i gains 100hp with a catless dp, tune and intake - with twice that for headroom till I hit fuelling limits. Night and day... I do miss gawking at my pearl white 2.5 RS, though..
@odaseous
@odaseous 3 ай бұрын
I have an 05 forester xt 2.5 just rebuilt the stock ej255. Nippon racing pistons and bearings, scat connecting rods, forged crank, mls gaskets, all the rest is OEM subaru and completely machines and rebuilt the block and heads. 330 miles on breaking in. Stock setup. Hoping it will last 🙏
@sonickatana2401
@sonickatana2401 4 ай бұрын
Id love a video like this on an FA20 from the later half of the first gen 86/brz. If you could do one thatd be awesome, but at the same time i understand that while being a boxer engine, its not one youve done as much with, and that there is less info on due to it being a "newer" subaru engine. If you cant, would you have a youtuber that youd recommend that has this type of info, but for FA20? Love your content, ive learned a ton from you over the years, keep up the good work!
@tehpik3y
@tehpik3y 4 ай бұрын
Please do more podcasts with Dewey. You have so much knowledge to share. I have playlists of your videos for when I do work on my Subaru's. Thank you for your contribution to the community.
@Smeedia
@Smeedia 4 ай бұрын
I’ll bug him some more and see what he has going on 😂😅
@DeweyWRX
@DeweyWRX 4 ай бұрын
Yooooo 🤘
@Smeedia
@Smeedia 4 ай бұрын
@@DeweyWRXDewey I made this just for you since you yelled at me 😂
@fidelj3025
@fidelj3025 4 ай бұрын
You should do a video on what turbo to get from street use, street track and drag racing. I know there's a lot of variables on it
@Smeedia
@Smeedia 4 ай бұрын
There’s a ton of options but I can do one with my recommendations 🫡
@fidelj3025
@fidelj3025 4 ай бұрын
@Smeedia sounds good my dude!
@devonmarcum6431
@devonmarcum6431 4 ай бұрын
This video has convinced me to close deck my bug eye project car and full send it with a moon tune
@Cwrigh25
@Cwrigh25 4 ай бұрын
Great info on the EJ series. I am really curious to see what the limits are for FA24.
@RSXengineering
@RSXengineering 4 ай бұрын
The crevice volume (area between the top of the piston and the compressio ring) of a oversquare engine like the EJ is naturally bigger and thus increases hydrocarbon emissions. Gas gets stuck between the cylinder walls and the pistons, then get expulsed on the exhaust stroke. This is why Subaru had to use small ringlands, higher up on the pistons, which makes them weaker, especially during detonation events.
@mikebarr8372
@mikebarr8372 3 ай бұрын
I have a JDM 2.0L turbo in my 03 blob eye and I love it !! , I was told that the 2.0L can handle a lil more abuse than a 2.5 can, give or take 🤷🏻‍♂️ lol
@fredastaire6156
@fredastaire6156 4 ай бұрын
Oh boy!!! This video should get you some content points with the almighty KZbin algo! Looking good Tanner! Like an extroverted engineer😁!
@EM29011
@EM29011 4 ай бұрын
I blew up my 2019 STI and it only had an intake and 45,000 miles. Still saving up for a built engine / heads. Definitely have trust issues now with Subarus 😢
@Smeedia
@Smeedia 4 ай бұрын
Understandable 😢 what was the failure?
@ohlins_5110
@ohlins_5110 4 ай бұрын
@@Smeediathe driver
@EM29011
@EM29011 4 ай бұрын
Ring land failure, Im not going to lie i did floor it usually on on ramps and stuff (which is why i bought a sports car) but I wouldn’t say It was anything too extreme especially for stock power levels. Bought it used so maybe it was already hurt when i got it but idk. I have outfront closed deck / 1/2 in studs block and iag 750 heads ready to be assembled when i get around to it. Looking forward to my tesla to get delivered because i know it won’t break and it will make the power i was looking for, stock. 😂
@buzzyshizzle5188
@buzzyshizzle5188 3 ай бұрын
Intake with no tune? Perhaps not using 93 octane with the intake?
@EM29011
@EM29011 3 ай бұрын
@@buzzyshizzle5188 Its a pretty common thing for the cast pistons to fail even when stock.
@kiivaskastylings545
@kiivaskastylings545 4 ай бұрын
i ran 14 psi off a 3076 on a "stock block" ej201 (the NA SOHC) it only had a thicker HG and a standalone, ran like a top for a few years now(sold it after a month of it being finished) its wild how they can actually take decent power if you slowly ramp the torque up, that being said the gearboxes dont like it much :D
@JDMAUTO
@JDMAUTO 3 ай бұрын
hey man, bought a 13 sti and spun a bearing a month later. motor is in the machine shop right now and theyre telling me the heads can be reconditioned and block isnt trashed. It has a .002 bore with wisco forged pistons, stock rods and crank, im looking to make 400 hp max so im probably going to stay with stock rods. your vids have been and will be so much use! thank you!
@joshuaquilliam2887
@joshuaquilliam2887 3 ай бұрын
You say 400 is enough right now.... Bite the bullet man and buy rods now! Enough is never ever enough. It never ends, and you will be doing it again when you bend a rod.
@JDMAUTO
@JDMAUTO 3 ай бұрын
@@joshuaquilliam2887 haha made a trip to the machine shop to drop some stuff off and I ended up ordering eagle rods! Did bite the bullet lol
@jjoop
@jjoop 4 ай бұрын
To split the case i always use a scissor jack wedged in the bell housing , seems to work with out wacking away at soft aluminum
@Smeedia
@Smeedia 4 ай бұрын
Scissor jacks not a bad idea, a dead blow won’t do any harm to the bellowing though. Cracked open a ton of engines that way
@jjoop
@jjoop 4 ай бұрын
​@@Smeedia yeh no disrespect, jus throwing that out there some people seem to be gorillas when working on subarus , broken stuff etc 😂
@DeweyWRX
@DeweyWRX 4 ай бұрын
Awe lawd!!!! Finally someone in the social space talking some truth out here.
@OverkillAndrew.AKA-boostman
@OverkillAndrew.AKA-boostman Сағат бұрын
I have an 05 Forester XT with an upgraded turbo and exhaust it has the ej257 block which for the first two years it had forged internals
@OverkillAndrew.AKA-boostman
@OverkillAndrew.AKA-boostman Сағат бұрын
I have another 04 Forester XT that my brother and I are building together as more of a race car and it has a much bigger turbo and a fully built engine block we also went through it and modified the cylinder heads by porting them and port matching the exhaust system. It's making about 400 wheel horsepower
@STiJMC
@STiJMC 3 ай бұрын
Im pushing 510whp and 445wtq on e85 with the stock RA block and ive had no issues so far
@Scoob_Heartwood
@Scoob_Heartwood 3 ай бұрын
2012 wrx sedan. 380whp stock longblock. 1k miles until I break 100k! Bought it at 60k completely bone stock. 🎉
@daveb920
@daveb920 4 ай бұрын
Phenomena video as always. Excellent breakdown and comparison. -respect-
@daveb920
@daveb920 4 ай бұрын
Phenomenal
@Menace_sti
@Menace_sti 4 ай бұрын
Lol i sit here and watch knowing that even my 750 iag block will bite the dust someday anyways! Can't be 100% sure a built engine will last, too. My stock block handed 140k miles with around 300whp, with minor oil leaks but heres to high hopes. Haha going e85 next and im excited.
@Smeedia
@Smeedia 4 ай бұрын
Very true! But the 750 will definitely take abuse and power but better 💪
@Craiggg12345
@Craiggg12345 4 ай бұрын
Non Ra block only lasted 33k with a 20g turbo, killer b headers, IAG oil pick up, ets TMIC, stock downpipe, fuel upgrades, cylinder 4 cooling mod, catback, Koyo radiator and pro tune. I drove the shit out of it. Everyday I was racing a car lol. Still waiting for the breakdown. I’m thinking maybe the oil pump failed. Motul 5w30 for 18 months. Never burned any. Still was full and was only two week old oil. Started knocking.
@brendancrosby2965
@brendancrosby2965 4 ай бұрын
Any oil cooler?
@Smeedia
@Smeedia 4 ай бұрын
Drive it like a racer car and you’ll have race car problems 😅 Easy way to check is to see if the backing plate screws are loose. When they comes loose you can lose oil pressure
@Craiggg12345
@Craiggg12345 4 ай бұрын
@@brendancrosby2965stock
@Craiggg12345
@Craiggg12345 4 ай бұрын
@@Smeediayeah I never checked it. Car is at 155k.
@pab3783
@pab3783 4 ай бұрын
Metalurgy on RA pistons is the same as old pistons. I checked that myself.
@Smeedia
@Smeedia 4 ай бұрын
Good to know, last report I saw had em slightly different. Curious if it was just that batch that was tested.
@pab3783
@pab3783 4 ай бұрын
@@Smeedia I posted the results on IWSTI. I can email you the report if you like.
@H3xyexe
@H3xyexe 4 ай бұрын
As someone who I’ve followed religiously building Subarus and me who owns one think I’ll take your advice
@Smeedia
@Smeedia 4 ай бұрын
🫶🫶🫶
@thomaswahahauw560
@thomaswahahauw560 4 ай бұрын
If i have a ringland or bearing failure. Keeping everything stock. Do I still need a new shortblock ??
@Smeedia
@Smeedia 4 ай бұрын
Tbh it really depends on how bad the damage is to the mainline and cylinder walls
@thomaswahahauw560
@thomaswahahauw560 4 ай бұрын
@@Smeedia crap……..other thing you said once if i remove the white bin under the oem airfilter then you will the car moreor better something like that right? If you did not said it sorry 😅
@omialmanza1900
@omialmanza1900 4 ай бұрын
Awesome informative video! Really enjoy these!
@Smeedia
@Smeedia 4 ай бұрын
Always down to do these. Feel Like I’ve covered most topics though 😅
@bradgreen987
@bradgreen987 4 ай бұрын
Happy Labor day 🎊, Tanner 🥳
@Smeedia
@Smeedia 4 ай бұрын
Happy Labor Day Brad!
@THEJADAN200
@THEJADAN200 3 ай бұрын
Love the video! Could you do one talking about the 2.0 wrx (02-05) motors like the EJ205. How to make them reliable, how to make power esc. There is a ton of articles and videos about the STi and built motors but not much for non STi motors.
@elie.k93
@elie.k93 4 ай бұрын
What does it mean If i can hear my engine working while driving can it be exhaust seal? I can hear this voice for four years but only from the inside of the car not when im above the engine bay
@Smeedia
@Smeedia 4 ай бұрын
What do you mean by hear the engine working?
@elie.k93
@elie.k93 4 ай бұрын
@@Smeedia clicking sounds but i can hear it only from the inside but i can't hear this sound from the engine bay
@goatg2747
@goatg2747 3 ай бұрын
Yo smeedia , I’m pulling my bugeye 205 and not sure if I should do a 207 or 257 but I’m not sure how I’d get the AVCS to work so should I just do another 205. I’m just going for 350ish whp for a little daily .
@riccam8616
@riccam8616 4 ай бұрын
So i can get an accessport with headers, intake, and down pipe to the already installed catback and not worry to much for a daily driver ‘13 wrx? 😅
@Smeedia
@Smeedia 4 ай бұрын
I’d toss some id1050s and a fuel pump in but you should be solid 💪
@Speedy.2045
@Speedy.2045 4 ай бұрын
This was such a nice vid that explanation was really helpful to see
@Shoey2949
@Shoey2949 4 ай бұрын
This isn’t so much a stock motor as such but more a stock turbo question. I’m currently running a pw verticooler and turbosmart have plumb back bov on my stock turbo 09 Forester XT. Currently I don’t think the stock car is making enough boost to open the piston in the bov, making the car “dose” to an extent. Should I be worrying about compressor surge destroying the td04? For reference the car has 86k miles
@Smeedia
@Smeedia 4 ай бұрын
I wouldn’t stress it much tbh, you might see accelerated wear but nothing that should be radical or immediate. Does the BPV have an adjustment to it?
@Shoey2949
@Shoey2949 4 ай бұрын
@@Smeediathe current one I’m running does not. I’m going to switch back to my GFB Response, missing the sound of it all. With the gfb I wouldn’t expect to have any issues with it right?
@edmolina7262
@edmolina7262 4 ай бұрын
If you are looking to upgrade. Look for engines that start with 4G63. Oh and get the rest of the car too. Trust me it's an upgrade.
@igotthejuice2090
@igotthejuice2090 3 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂 cmon
@itsjustmichael136
@itsjustmichael136 4 ай бұрын
Can you do the FA engine too?
@Panzerlang
@Panzerlang 4 ай бұрын
Highly educational and very well presented dude, nice one. :)
@Smeedia
@Smeedia 4 ай бұрын
Thanks buddy 🥳🫡 seen this brought up wayyyy too many times 😅
@Panzerlang
@Panzerlang 4 ай бұрын
@@Smeedia I reckon a LOT of people go down the bolt-on route without a clue what really goes on inside the engine, assuming the manufacturer builds stuff as strong as it can be. Videos like this, rare as they are, should be considered essential viewing.
@Christosan88
@Christosan88 4 ай бұрын
On a side by side of cylinder walls between FA24 and EJ25 the walls are so much thicker in the 24
@alfozinsavage4875
@alfozinsavage4875 3 ай бұрын
So much knowledge. Thanks heaps keeps em coming pls.
@stressed_garage
@stressed_garage 4 ай бұрын
Ej207 checking in here 😅
@Smeedia
@Smeedia 4 ай бұрын
There’s still a handful out there 😅💪
@CHINOINBB
@CHINOINBB 4 ай бұрын
Any 207 owners here. Superior motor than the 257
@Smeedia
@Smeedia 4 ай бұрын
207s built like a tank
@gfarnden56
@gfarnden56 3 ай бұрын
Hello fellow 207 owner..lol.. I Agree with Smeedia, built like a tank. Over 900whp on mine and no issues.
@ShocksBocks
@ShocksBocks 4 ай бұрын
Kinda curious, for the crank shaft, do you tend to re-use the crank shaft from a blown up engine? Or are they a part where you can't use the old one ever
@Smeedia
@Smeedia 4 ай бұрын
Nope I always toss and use new. New cranks aren’t too spendy.
@nathanielgates2863
@nathanielgates2863 4 ай бұрын
290whp/300wtq on my 2011 WRX.. daily it and its gonna stay at this power level for sure. Plenty for a daily. Motorcycles for going fast lol
@leohughes6921
@leohughes6921 Ай бұрын
Also, is it still a first engine, with potentially compromised rod bearings from the OEM. at this point i feel like an oil analysis is almost more important than a compression test.
@scoobysean555
@scoobysean555 4 ай бұрын
Sit back relax and enjoy 🤙
@Smeedia
@Smeedia 4 ай бұрын
🫡🫡🫡
@matto20v
@matto20v 4 ай бұрын
Hah, I have an EJ207 and I'm watching this video (G'day from West Australia)
@fatalscape
@fatalscape 4 ай бұрын
Do you think a block that suffered head gasket failure could be saved by being machined - bore/hone and decking? I'd like to put some power, 300 daily on pump gas, into the car but I'm not sure if I can use the core I've got or if it would just be better buying something from Outfront or IAG.
@Smeedia
@Smeedia 4 ай бұрын
Totally as long as it’s not overly warped you should be solid to send it out for machine work 🫡
@andrewroland8491
@andrewroland8491 4 ай бұрын
What do you know about the ej20g? I have one and, finding anyone who KNOWS knows these motors is difficult.
@Smeedia
@Smeedia 4 ай бұрын
Unfortunately not much, they’re not too common now a days 😢
@zonatedsquash2291
@zonatedsquash2291 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video Tanner. I’m currently still on a stock EJ257 and I’m installing a TD05H-20G with water meth (no ethanol where I live). Hope it goes well lol
@Smeedia
@Smeedia 4 ай бұрын
Make sure you have some safeties in place for the meth kit. Should be a fun car when done 🥳
@zonatedsquash2291
@zonatedsquash2291 4 ай бұрын
@@Smeedia I did get the AEM solenoid for safety! Other than that I’m running every reliability mod that exists for an EJ
@TGPerformancefa20
@TGPerformancefa20 4 ай бұрын
I made 780hp on my 257 for 2 years just fine 🤷 they are pretty good motors
@TGPerformancefa20
@TGPerformancefa20 4 ай бұрын
Then I went piston rod and headstuds
@cigaretteman5716
@cigaretteman5716 4 ай бұрын
Pray to the Head Gasket Gods for longevity.
@Smeedia
@Smeedia 4 ай бұрын
Just delete em 👀👀👀
@adamsmw1
@adamsmw1 4 ай бұрын
Do you have any experience with EJ22 block with 2.5 heads? If so, your thoughts in general.
@Smeedia
@Smeedia 4 ай бұрын
Unfortunately no, I rarely ever see any EJ22T engines 😢
@AudioHead809
@AudioHead809 4 ай бұрын
Dang brother I wanted to keep my sti stock because I was scared to blow it up lol. I’m a pretty conservative driver but wouldn’t hate more power. You think I should shoot for 350whp with bolt ons? To add I only have pump gas around me. Also I’m in Connecticut so I’m not sure who to use for a tune. I don’t want to go to Mike botti though lol. Been there done that.
@Smeedia
@Smeedia 4 ай бұрын
I would feel pretty confident about 350, been done numerous times in the past. Plenty of good tuners out there as well!
@AudioHead809
@AudioHead809 4 ай бұрын
@@Smeedia appreciate it! Any mods I should avoid on my journey?
@Craiggg12345
@Craiggg12345 4 ай бұрын
⁠@@AudioHead809this was my set up. Non ra block. 360whp. 2015 STI with Killer B Headers, Cobb 20g Turbo, Invidia Q300 Catback (stock downpipe), 1050 injectors, ETS TMIC, Killer B hard inlet, Koyo Radiator, Cobb Intake, IAG AOS, Cobb Uppipe, AEM 340 fuel pump, VSC radiator hoses, 04 STI fuel regular, Grimspeed turbo heat shield, and Grimspeed 3port. Stock Fuel Rails, Lines and BPV. Ran it for 33k. Was racing cars everyday. I was hard on it. Spun a rod last week. I don’t baby my car.
@AudioHead809
@AudioHead809 4 ай бұрын
@@Craiggg12345 dude thanks for all that info! I screenshot it so I can basically follow the build on my 2017 sti. Are the killer b headers something you think I should do no matter what? I love the rumble but if the equal length headers mean better drivability, better for the engine and easier to reach that power then I’ll use them for sure. Also why the 04 sti fpr if you don’t mind me asking.
@tcjb87
@tcjb87 4 ай бұрын
What’s safe for a stock fa20 engine hp wise. Currently tuned for around 280hp on pump 91. I wanna go to E60 tune. End goal 380hp to 400hp is that realistic for a daily
@Smeedia
@Smeedia 4 ай бұрын
FA20s I see all over. I’d say that 360-380 mark is a pretty good sweet spot. LSPI (low speed pre ignition) is the weak point on FAs
@tcjb87
@tcjb87 4 ай бұрын
@@Smeedia awesome man thank you for the info I just put a new oem short block in my car so not looking to blow it up anytime soon lol 350 probably be perfect for a daily. Thanks again 🤘🏻🤙🏻
@natel5370
@natel5370 3 ай бұрын
Ej207 w20c jdm die around 400 here in uk many have died around 380-400 cracked pistons
@limez8828
@limez8828 4 ай бұрын
how are the 6 cylinders stock blocks when you start to introduce boost? I eventually wanna try to build a daily with a boosted EZ30 R and have it sit around 18-23lbs of boost.
@georgepumpernickel603
@georgepumpernickel603 3 ай бұрын
look up videos from the aussies, forgot the guys name but he appeared in the videos mcm did with their ez30 levorg. The series is a good start for getting information, but research is key. Absolute must though is the closed deck modification, as they don't like much boost. Outfront and possum bourne motorsport did/do closed deck machining on them. Most stuff you will find will be from australia since they got the 3.0r legacies with the 6 speed.
@WRCKS
@WRCKS 3 ай бұрын
Depending on the 6 cylinder engine you intend to use
@RolanTHUNDER
@RolanTHUNDER 3 ай бұрын
Good video! I wanna see more of that blue S2000 on white TE37's please!
@lildubbies
@lildubbies 3 ай бұрын
I have a wrx too and I’m debating swapping the engine jus for these reasons
@kylekennedy21
@kylekennedy21 4 ай бұрын
Speaking on built 2.5’s sticking a 2.5 in a 05 wrx, I have decided to just go that route so I can have more head room for power. Would you do the hybrid or make 2.5 heads work? I’ve seen parts to make the 2.5 heads work just can’t find a good enough set of castings to use
@Smeedia
@Smeedia 4 ай бұрын
Personally I would just use 2.5 heads. You can scoop D25 heads for a decent price on market place or eBay. You can do a hybrid set up if you want to. Don’t see it done as much anymore but can definitely do so if you want to 🫡
@kylekennedy21
@kylekennedy21 4 ай бұрын
@@Smeedia I’ll have to keep looking, I’ve decided it’s probably better to just build a 257 vs building a 205 lol
@Msngr0fd3ath
@Msngr0fd3ath 3 ай бұрын
What is the difference in the engines in the wrx vs sti?
@mryork_
@mryork_ 3 ай бұрын
Im hoping to be around 400whp with a forged piston stock rod ej20x with a TF06-18k. Its been a solid motor up to this point and im fine with the torque loss of 2.0. Ideally i find a ej22T block or i get a thick walled 207 block. Switching to spec b 6 speed at the moment as well
@chuckcribbs3398
@chuckcribbs3398 4 ай бұрын
What are the biggest differences between a Subaru vs Porsche boxer engine?
@Smeedia
@Smeedia 4 ай бұрын
Tbh depends on the Porsche engine. The turbos and most newer ones use dry sumps. On some older P cars the cylinders actually bolt onto the case halves
@Infrared-6
@Infrared-6 3 ай бұрын
330 whp 350tq stock longblock 150k miles. Still makes 130 comp.
@PowerRageSTI
@PowerRageSTI 4 ай бұрын
Great break down bro
@Smeedia
@Smeedia 4 ай бұрын
Thanks buddy 🙏🙏
@itsrandall119
@itsrandall119 Ай бұрын
Would you recommend forged internationals for a sub 400 whp daily driver (no track use)
@VladooDIY
@VladooDIY Ай бұрын
Running stock power with sleeved chamber, 14mm bolt, forged piston and stuff. Still afraid to push at the track :( . Please, be gentle with me.
@rowebil00
@rowebil00 3 ай бұрын
Hey, I got a question I hope you can answer! I hate to ask forums because I know the hate I will get lol. I have a 2012 WRX Hatchback in rally blue that I love. It went from 49K to 215k without a single issue other than the clutch, brakes, tires, and headlamps. Now it has low compression in a cylinder. The car itself is in great condition. No rust, no tears inside, carpets have been always covered by mats, etc. I want to drive the car but inspection won't pass due to engine fault with cylinder. I'm curious, should I just buy an engine from eBay? They say compression is between 130-140 in all cylinders, and the engine looks VERY clean, but not clean to the point where they cleaned it just for photos... It is USDM but they don't know the mileage :( OR do you think I should rip apart my engine and rebuild the short block? I have the money but I don't want to stick too much money into this... but there is an ROI, and that is I get to drive my truck less... if I keep driving my truck, the worth of it is going to decrease more than the cost to put in a new engine into my Subaru and drive that instead. I'm good with my hands, I have tools, I've done this work before but not on Subaru (Mitsubishi is where my mechanic experience comes from), I have a truck, I have a place to work on it, etc.
@marleneduke6390
@marleneduke6390 4 ай бұрын
Very Educational. Any chance this video can be made for wrx FA20 I’m at 371hp/349tq on flex fuel tune Dmann with some other bolt ons thanks either way I love me some cur purts ✌🏼
@123cornflakeman
@123cornflakeman 2 ай бұрын
We need the fa24 teardown. I want to see if subaru really created thier best engine
@C211sti
@C211sti 4 ай бұрын
What are your thoughts on a open deck block with forged pistons & rods? What is the power threshold/realizability in your opinion for that set up
@DonSlahern
@DonSlahern 4 ай бұрын
Great episode! With extra wooooooooooooo! 🤪
@Smeedia
@Smeedia 4 ай бұрын
🥳🥳🥳🥳
@steeveamedee5021
@steeveamedee5021 4 ай бұрын
Tanner what about Fa20 my 2015 have 203 000 klm I have no problème whit it im on stage 2 flat whit the accesport in i have the part for stage 3 im waitting for the header soon and my wrx 2015 running very well
@AKGWolf
@AKGWolf 4 ай бұрын
comments on the ej20x? everybody hates them but they have forged crowns on the pistons, forged rods and crank, and a better turbo. idk why everybody hates them, at its heart its just a better ej205 from the factory
@chacelarsen50
@chacelarsen50 3 ай бұрын
There's no such thing as a forged crown. Stop perpetuating this damn bs.
@3obardThawn3
@3obardThawn3 4 ай бұрын
Great video!!! Thank you for posting...
@NotWBT
@NotWBT 3 ай бұрын
I have a 94 wrx type RA (EJ20G closed deck) 144k km's 148-152psi across all 4. What are my options for 350whp? Is it worth it to keep my ancient engine since its closed deck or should I just do a v7 drive train swap since parts don't exist for these anymore?
@ohnaw223
@ohnaw223 2 ай бұрын
I need an opinion: I am daily driving an 05 sti, Freshly rebuiilt heads and new block at Auto Science, a trusted subie shop near me. Although the block is stock, the internals are wiseco forged, and its tuned very well at 24 psi on a blouch 1.5xtr on Flex Fuel @ 440hp If daily driven normally with the occasional pull, would the motor last a while? Theres also a million other supporting mods like Killer b ELH, pickup, baffled pan, AOS, Oil cooler, etc
@alb12345672
@alb12345672 4 ай бұрын
I'm looking at a 12 Forester XTT with 110K. I want it but the ringland scares me. This is video helpful. Do stock EJ255 have problems before 150K? If I get it I will always use 91 gas :lol:
@Smeedia
@Smeedia 4 ай бұрын
I’ve seen factory engines go all the way to 400K miles. It really depends on the life it lived tbh
@camrongoodall
@camrongoodall 4 ай бұрын
Just torque everything down double the manufacturers specs and it'll last forever 🤗
@Smeedia
@Smeedia 4 ай бұрын
lol this sounds like an experiment that needs to be done 😂
@camrongoodall
@camrongoodall 4 ай бұрын
@@Smeedia lol you first 😂
@DarkWolfWRX
@DarkWolfWRX 4 ай бұрын
Quite enjoying the power we can pull from these stock FA24s 😈
@stanleylam2159
@stanleylam2159 4 ай бұрын
Will it be easier to maintain temperature like oil and water heat on close deck engines? or just a build one like RA block will hold.
@tylernorthrup5471
@tylernorthrup5471 4 ай бұрын
Hey Tanner great vid 👍 - question: I'm on a stock block 15' sti - I seem to be pushing coolant, probably a lifted head? Not seeing any leaks when it's parked but am constantly topping up the overflow... will a leak down test confirm this suspicion??
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