Two Types Of Players

[@Wraith_Of_The_Shadows]

as a proffesional oceangate submarine i have gotten hit by a depth charge and sunk

[@_YouTube-User_]

Too soon man... Too soon.

[@-Hesco]

@@_KZbin-User_NOT SOON ENOUGH imo lol

[@_YouTube-User_]

@@-Hesco 💀

[@andmos1001]

Bit too soon for this one

[@Alpha_627]

Really popped huh

[@norliasmith]

UBOAT: Hull crushes at 300M Gaijin: 60M safe depth take it or leave it.

[@LazyRedCat1337]

World of Warships have pretty same crush depth for their subs. I believe it will be zero fun if it will be realistic - sub will simply go at 150-200m depth and will try to evade every depth charge it can and simply will end until battle will be finished.

[@americankid7782]

I think the official tested safe depth was 200m with some subs diving much lower with a estimated crush depth between 350m-400m

[@freaky1382]

@@americankid7782depends on the model but yes you are correct

[@AZ-dj1ni]

Are you asking sim exp on a Arcade Game mode?

[@kisel_2012]

Foxhole: 20M and no chance hide from sonar

[@damaan1243]

There's so many things they did wrong with this event, but the most egregious one is not giving the PBY the depth charges it already has in game

[@sealioso]

Why even put it in the event 😭

[@sebastianodiraviolo499]

Its so OP its unfair

[@KorporalNoobs]

You should not compare the tech tree Heinkel loadout with the Event Heinkel ones. THAT is what depression looks like.

[@maxomat4319]

be lucky there aren´t Fido acoustic torpedoes in game. Those are sub hunter acoustic aerial torpedoes.

[@prussia4428]

Those PBYs are OP enough man 😭 also the HE-111 is weak af

[@altair3232]

Sucks that they modeled the fact that slower you go in SS less likely you to be detected, but did not made same thing for DD that the slower they go, more likely to detect the sub. You can go engines full ahead 65km/h+ and still be effective at detecting subs. That is not how it worked. Also crush depth on this sub was incorrect. I imploded at 120m while type 7 crush depth is ranging from 230 to 260m. Even in stat card they said 250m, and yet you die if you go 120. 3:10 ! exactly what i am talking about. It's nonsense.

[@lucasmoreno2154]

They probab did the depth thing for balance, even tho going 200m deep aint that useful anyway lol

[@edbrook7088]

ye its a bit biased against the subs, that's why i prefer escorting

[@dbzfanexwarbrady]

classic stat card lie's , La-15 users know never trust the stat card

[@Imsillier]

It is just a event, so probably done so you dont go double+ what the depth charges currently go and leave the destroyers in your wake, but I completely agree

[@Real_Claudy_Focan]

Balance and fun. This event is fun.

[@edbrook7088]

Not to mention the 2000m range torpedoes (irl it was 5000-7500m) on the whole i quite like it though, i think events like these are a great way to make naval more fun. perhaps a battle of latakia style one could be next

[@TheJackHood]

And the fact that Gayjin only gave our Type VII's G7e's which are electric and don't leave a wake

[@weedstage4267]

the g7e was electric and in many sub sims it has 5km range, but it has no wake so it should stay undetected for other players. The standard german torpedo which had wake was g7a and it range depended on the speed at which you set torpedo at launch, with slowest speed (30kn) it had range of 12.5km which is way longer than stupid 2km xd

[@sushislav]

yeah just a proof of concept--definitely needs some polishing

[@ToreDL87]

IRL Uboats seldom made attacks outside ranges of 1.5-2.5km depending on conditions. In the game all you do is point the scope at something and it calculates = Cool beans & meme's, right? IRL they had a somewhat more... complicated procedure, in that all the target data had to be manually put into a Torpedo Data Computer. A computer is only as good as the data you put into it, they needed target AOB, speed, distance, torpedo running depth. For distance you needed mast height, which in simulators you get by reading ship recognition manuals, but IRL they didn't have that for anything but well-known warships, so they had to guesstimate. Hits at 2.5km in simulators like Silent Hunter and Uboat is possible, but by cheating with map tools showing all that data. And the further away, the more important all the data is dead-on accurate, if enemy changes speed or bearing, torpedo likely misses. IMO Gaijin is being more than fair with 2km range, given the difficulties the real Uboat/submarine crews faced.

[@spacesweedkid27]

Also, the fact that the torpedoes only launch in a direct way and don't have 3 speeds as well as there not being a fifth torpedo tube (the one at the back of the Boot VII C)

[@rockdragon3]

the spawns in this mode are awful, the destroyers don't have to protect the cargo ships at all, they just have to rush the clearly marked submarine spawnpoints, and they can freely lock them down with 0 effort. there needs to be like 5 in a semi circle out front and to the sides, and they need to not be visible to the destroyers. on the plus side, i learned you can make a 3x4 (-1) minefield grid in a spot, and then just full power forward and reverse as a sub, the noise will attract the destroyers who will gleefully cross over you without seeing the mines above you. i got 4 kills in one game off of the spawncamping destroyers this way

[@zander7780]

I only played a few games in that mode but it felt more like the destroyers could not do much because you can onehit them if they try to abproach you with verry low effort. allso I just went out a bit away from the convoi turned towards the convoi placed a wall of mines and got 2 free kills that way because over the course of the game some of the destroyers just went right into them

[@billrobert3226]

wait if u stop moving they cant see u?

[@fabianmarquez7697]

@@billrobert3226 It doesn't matter, if you stay still they will still detect you

[@dingusbingus7463]

Lol, the bombers of the water. Every game mode has something like this, I'm glad I don't play anymore

[@xXE4GLEyEXx]

War thunder naval has horrid spawn points to begin with, no wonder they failed to make it right for this mode.

[@borisgrishenko652]

god damnit why is the only fun part of this game a throwaway event? seriously if they made this its own gamemode I would be so keen

[@Awesomesauceman-vx5sv]

Look up the guardian angel event. It might make you sad…

[@borisgrishenko652]

mate i've been playing since 2013 i know, that's why this shit bothers me, they're honestly the only fun thing every now and then.@@Awesomesauceman-vx5sv

[@smigoltime]

@@borisgrishenko652 I agree totally

[@123dodo4]

Agreed, could've just left it as is like the heli event

[@algiz21]

same with the normandy event where you got historical matchups

[@UtopianMatt]

It really is stressful when the U-boat starts stalking you instead and your pings go quiet

[@gabrielnascimento1021]

I just wanna drop the fact that near the end of WW1 a Brazilian cruiser fired on a group of porpoises that were mistaken for a submarine, its called the Batlle of Porpoises. Another weird fact, in the 1960s we almost declared war on France over lobster.

[@mikemandalorian9226]

Playing silent Hunter 3 for years helped me in this event.... It helped me to understand that this gamemode is nothing like silent Hunter xD they didnt even gave us acoustic torpedoes and other magic stuff while enemy has really good equipment to spot subs lol.

[@Spartans5499]

3. You become a Maritime patrol aircraft.

[@elitely6748]

USA destroys Germany in this event quite often but this is still a fun event tbh. There's a few issues though such as the crush depth being inaccurate as altair3232 said in the comments along with Torpedo ranges, I'd also say that destroyers should not be able to spot submarines right below them since the destroyers sonar's blind spot is directly beneath the ship. Subs should also have passive sonar. But its a cool event and a nice way to test how fun Subs will be considering that in real battles there'll be islands to weave through. *I also found some cool submarine controls in the game's settings that I've yet to try out including Sub active sonar, torpedo active sonar, and torpedo homing*

[@huisunvun]

It's from another event "Silent Thunder" with modern subs

[@ronaldmcreagann6343]

@@huisunvunbut nonetheless could make a return one day given enough time.

[@huisunvun]

@@ronaldmcreagann6343 yes, i hope so

[@jamesrosewell9081]

I think that's part of the balance. Otherwise the subs would be mostly unreachable

[@qoorson]

True true. As ocasional naval player ( only two nations maxed out ) i can say that nazis are in big disadvantage here, i played 5 matches in subs and 5 matches as usa. In subs you are prey, yes u can spam mines and torpedoes, but a good destroyer player will decimate you quickly. I been a pinata in a sub and trough 5 matches got only 3 kills. WHen played usa on the other hand. I been top dog in the team in 3 of those.

[@krajt1999]

ah yes, the Das Boot film the best submarine film ever made

[@pyencdocde5716]

Conducting drive bys on Submarines while dropping your dookie of mines over them is mildly amusing

[@L3GIT349]

That moment when you dodge 4 torpedos from a U-boat and feel exactly like Tom Hanks in Greyhound when he did that manoeuver

[@spacekraken666]

They nerfed subs so hard in this event. Torpedo range 2km instead of real 5km, starts taking damage at 56m depth, very slow underwater while destroyers yeet around with their arcade modifiers And if that wasn't enough, they made it almost impossible to hide, and even if you stay undetected somehow, the mission is time limited and you'll lose before you even reach the convoys. Still, i think it's a good thing Gaijin made this event, experiments like this can't hurt anyone.

[@sebastianodiraviolo499]

Dive to 4m depth, over the water Speed whilst almost completely covered, very stealthy Dive If Destroyers get close

[@larshaas2658]

the torpedoes also suck in this event, the g7e has a range up to 7km i think. yet can only do 2 in this event. i hope this becomes better when subs get released to the game

[@gabrielnascimento1021]

I mean it would be pretty bad if the subs could launch the torpedoes from their spawn and destroy most cargo ships before you could even fire back, but 2km is very garbage, 5 km would be ok

[@xfy123]

Good luck hitting anything at that range especially in an actual warthunder match. You would have to launch a salvo and get lucky with the spread. And I believe that German subs had a 2km range limit on the torpedo computer anything beyond that the computer didn't let you launch the torpedo.

[@PC-coolant-pipe-sucker]

@@gabrielnascimento1021 yeah but like you can't exactly aim the torpedoes, it tells you to fire at eg. 315, but there is no way of knowing where it is

[@sebastianodiraviolo499]

​@@PC-coolant-pipe-suckerthere is, Look at the compass above

[@PC-coolant-pipe-sucker]

@@sebastianodiraviolo499 I only see lines, no directional indicators,am I just stupid or is it because I am on XBox

[@alexmarcu3693]

i wish this asymetric gameplay would be permanent.

[@MausOfTheHouse]

I distinctly remember saying that Gaijin is testing subs during the 2018 April Fool's event. I thought that they would add it by now. I was mostly correct

[@originsaccounted4444]

Grey hound is such an underrated film and I’m glad someone else recognized it.

[@EnduringFrost]

Definitely some issues in the event, more in favor of the DDs, but this is a Hella fun event. And while those submarines should have a deeper depth range, I usually found that gliding at 57m is sufficient to be safe most of the time. Depth of 45m is the limit for mines though, so you need to be a bit higher to try and fight back.

[@topphatt1312]

At the start of the event where no one quite knew what they were doing it was a pretty even matchup if not even slightly in the favour of the subs but as people have played it longer it’s become more and more of just the DDs absolutely smashing the subs.

[@therealspeedwagon1451]

Because DDs were the counter to subs in real life. In reality destroyers just dropped depth charges on subs and it destroyed them. Same with Catalinas. In fact the PBY Catalina’s primary purpose was anti submarine warfare alongside search and rescue.

[@breezygamer1179]

you forgot using the PBY with 500lbs to absolutely decimate the subs

[@Treee1027]

As a silent hunter III player, I find War thunder's showing of u-boats as 'disgusting'. The crush dept, the destroyers finding us while at full ahead, etc etc. It's just complete buffoon

[@Hadrian9707]

I really wish they would bring subs to the game and have battles play out like this. I don't play naval at all just like most players don't, but this event is VERY fun to me. Constantly feel like I'm in Das Boot or Greyhound.

[@Sushi_the_Idiot]

I really enjoy just shutting off the sub’s engines when a ship is trying to track and destroy me

[@rayhill1]

I knew someone would make a das boot reference and I'm glad it was you

[@salt_of_souls]

3. There's the ace combat 7 player, Salvation!

[@connorwinton4343]

this mode was so incredibly fun I hope they add it in game as a fixture

[@wargamingrefugee9065]

I was expecting Sean Connery for an anachronistic shits-and-giggles ending. Great video! Wouldn't change a thing.

[@ravenof1985]

best luck ive had so far as a frigate was 4 Uboats running bunched up side by side, i drove over the top of them dropping depth charges and got a quad kill.

[@3n1gma]

3:12 get Titan'd

[@aaromik]

I also died to the crush depths a few times and the torpedo range is quite annoying. Most importantly, where’s my 8,8 cm deck gun?

[@GotVERdamte]

When sudenly greyhound soundtrack started☠️☠️

[@Riskh_Mk7]

I absolutely loved the sound design of this mode, especially the depth charges and hearing torpedoes and ship propeller. Like many of us here, i rushed to watch das boot again

[@Cyanfox3006]

Me: embrace the G-5 (Soviet motorboat): Go FLK Ahead, 4-5 meters depth, and here we GOOOOOOOOOOOO

[@TheAceStrike]

Listening to greyhound ost especially for torpedoes one is absolutely make the game more stunning when hunting the submarine

[@Charlie-fk4ly]

I played the greyhound osts while playing as the escorts and my god, if you time the soundtracks right the games become so epic.

[@deathtrooper7760]

i could recommend Wolfpack from Sabaton. it pretty fitting if you play the Uboat

[@bjboss1119]

I think the 2 things i was most disappointed by in this event weren't the inaccurate submarines or terrible spawns (seriously, waaaayyy too close). No, It was A: the "mine" you can drop is just your stern torpedo tube not functioning, (even though tube switching is already a common feature on ships), your stern torpedo tube instead of firing a fish at foolish pursuers, the torpedo just drops out backwards and floats to the surface. B: the depth charges have proxy. IRL depth charges require depth setting, a tedious process (that the player should be in charge of imo, like setting the range in the tank sight) that could take up to a minute to complete and would tell the depth charges when to explode. If this was modelled correctly in game a submarine could quickly drop from 20m to 50m and evade the first depth charge pass, then quickly rise to 10m on the second pass and evade again, now having a good shot at the ships rear if they came from behind you. In essence you can now dodge depth charges vertically. Instead in game the depth charges just magically detonate within 10m of your depth even if you're rapidly changing depth.

[@blaisepascal3804]

i was actually cooking so hard with the u-boat

[@amysilverstone9059]

YES, THE DAS BOOT I loved it so much

[@cannonfodder4376]

Man experienced the OceanGate experience at the end. 😂😂😊

[@abitofapickle6255]

The last game I was playing was Grey Hound, part 2 Electric boogaloo. Just smacking U-Boats from left to right. Now we need a Gato class submarine event

[@aleshlavacek5674]

NOT YET KAMERADEN! NOT YET!

[@duglife2230]

Now I want to watch Das Boot again. Though I forgot just how empty the ending makes you feel.

[@andrasszekeres7752]

Guys don't be angry over the inaccuracies, it will be fixed it's just an event!

[@bob6910]

And then there's me surfacing right in front of enemy destroyers captain Torres style. They never expect it and it's fun watching them panic as they try to dodge an entire salvo of torpedoes

[@fernandomarques5166]

Classic "down the throat" shot

[@Troiks21]

I knew it i was not the only one who, put greyhound OST and Das Boot scenes when playing as one of the sides in this game-mode!

[@TaGF_Tomcat]

Smigol how do you feel about the changes War Thunder has been making since the strike and review bombing a while ago?

[@smigoltime]

mostly decent changes but still don't address the issues that I find mostly annoying

[@PrivateMemo]

@@smigoltime This. Yeah they addressed some issues. But the stuff that makes the gameplay awful for players with a WR above 45%, hasn't changed at all.

[@TaGF_Tomcat]

@@smigoltime That’s fair, there’s a lot of work to be done, but the changes so far have gone a long way to restoring my faith in gaijin.

[@wolfgangkolber381]

@@PrivateMemo What's this? I haven't heard of this before.

[@dingusbingus7463]

I havent played in over a month, I was surprised to see this event pop up all over my feed. I still have that pull to the game but i dont think ill play it for a long time

[@franeklada1210]

literally me playing this mode (Geyhound must be one of my favourite movies out there)

[@arizonamidnight5294]

Wish the depth could be better in game but they did amazing on this event

[@statelyelms]

I think they may have shrunk the crush depth and torpedo range to balance the gameplay, which is pretty fair. If they further implement the submarines, I forget if Naval has a Simulator mode, but they could implement the true to life stats in that one like they do with other vessels and vehicles.. it has a much bigger emphasis on accuracy and the scale/pace would fit it better too If they add it fully, a Battle of the Atlantic supersized simulator battle with the youtubers and simulator groups is all but guaranteed and I CANNOT wait.

[@Nikarus2370]

Event is kinda fun. Wish a few things. 1 that max depth on subs was deeper and more realistic. 2 that destroyers had to slow down, to detect. Possibly with a longer range, forward only ping. 3. torpedoes need a minimum arming distance. And finally 4, perhaps a longer battle time and physically longer map. Defender spawns stay on the flanks of the convoy. But subs can spawn ahead, aft, or to the sides of the convoy (as though they were really attacking from all directions)

[@WelcomeToDERPLAND]

When are they going to stop c0ckteasing us and finally just give us the submarine tech tree???

[@greoko]

When flying the catalina in this game mode i like blasting black cats them from cod world at war

[@archiescriven6178]

Can we just take a minute to appreciate the master piece that is the OG Das Boot in german

[@Yawsome]

It's literally me, good edit!

[@bialykocik]

Sabaton - Wolfpack fits here prefectly

[@clay6914]

YES I was waiting for this :))))

[@Miikkii_21]

My two absolutely MOST FAVORITE films ( i just realized that they are both with submarines ) the third one is an animeso yea Shout out for knowing them and doing this vid its amazing

[@TheGrace020]

The Smigmarine 😳ahoy sea lubbers 😼

[@budgie_io3897]

Bro greyhound is such an underrated movie

[@MrSnow0808]

Fun fact, the game’s sub description says the submarine can dive farther than what War Thunder currently allows you to. I bet that’s because it’s a test and everything is bare mins but big plans are ahead!

[@lostcosmonaut1000]

They shoulda added the Lusitania as an event boss tbh :|

[@worlore1651]

As someone who owns a good PC. I’ve been playing a lot of war thunder mobile for navy (tanks are ass in mobile) and it’s 5vs 5 and half the games there are two enemy submarines. Shit is so annoying because it ends up as 5vs2 and nobody has depth charges and the submarines just hide till the 15 minutes is up. And even worse, they somehow win.

[@grimmig13]

Wir haben Wasser einbrough, Herr Kaleun! Kritische Tiefe!

[@MBkufel]

There is a lot of tweaking they need to do, but I am sure that subs have a future in WT (especially in EC).

[@ragingmenace1984]

Dude these are two of my favorite movies….I need this event to be longer than 9 days

[@weedstage4267]

WWII submarine combat was to slow to properly add it to war thunder. I understand they had to cut out and simplify many mechanics, yet I still feel kinda dissapointed with how it is in wt (after spending houndrets of hours in sh3 and sh4 playing subs in wt hurts my brain)

[@quentintin1]

it's reasonably close for the kinda game WT is if we gloss over a couple issues (low crush depth, limited torpedo range, DD don't have a sonar blindspot, DD speed doesn't influence sub detection) also it's still a one time event, they probably didn't want to put *too* much work in it yet

[@weedstage4267]

@@quentintin1funny that they removed deck gun from VIIc so that players at least try to use torpedos XD

[@quentintin1]

@@weedstage4267 that too, tho it could also be they chose a sub for reference that for some reason lacked the deck gun, there's too many type VII for me to care enough to check or they could have chosen somehow to make it a type VIIF with mines, idk the specifics of the model

[@FluffyUranium]

​@@weedstage4267its probably a late war event, late VIICs had the deck gun removed for better submerging speed, it made no sense to keep it with the absolute allied aerial supremacy

[@deathtrooper7760]

@@weedstage4267 i don´t need a deck gun to down the enemy, the 37mm was enough combined with the 20mm to sink 1 destroyer. after that my aa mun was empty but it was totally worth it

[@AdmiralGrafSpee100]

The Hardcore lord of the beat at the end made laugh😂 hahahaha.

[@jamessigler6911]

I can confidently say I have carried my team as a submarine more than once and have also gone rampaging as a Farragut and Catalina

[@hendrihendri3939]

This event just baits out the Das Boot fans from the depths Enjoy it, lads 👍

[@man1699]

tbh last time I played subs managed to win somehow, I spamed torps at start since atleast one tends to hit and you end up reloading anyway

[@mysteriumxarxes3990]

never tried naval battles, now I want to

[@abnegazher]

How there is no "Hunt for the Red October" meme yet baffles me.

[@ethanmcfarland8240]

ALLLLAAAAAAARM!

[@MaticTheProto]

They better give the subs their accurate maximum depth

[@virgilio6349]

Just a reminder to everyone playing, at 56m the depth charges can't hurt you.

[@WRTartal]

It reminds me of good ol' days with Silent Hunter series =)

[@dominatorandwhocaresanyway9617]

i spent most of the time trying to figure out how to stay at certain depth

[@Lanalikesalmdudler]

ALARM!!!!

[@maxomat4319]

The subs were too easy to kill and you should have crush debt of something with 200 metres. You could go about 150 metres deep with a Typ VII sub without damage. When you are this deep it also becomes a lot easier to dodge debth charges. If they want to balance it they can introduce hedgehogs to the asw crafts. I would also remove the mines from the sub and making it a homing torpedo instead.

[@lemrzielony]

To event bardziej dla ludzi z cierpliwością (czego mi troche brak) xD. Jak ci idzie wbijanie TOG'a II? Czy czekasz aż gaijin ci da?

[@smigoltime]

kupuje za golda zadania, nie mam czasu na to xd

[@lemrzielony]

​@@smigoltimeZrozumiałe xd

[@TheVampyr]

DAS IST THOMSEN!

[@felixg.6493]

Wie schön es ist, alles zu verstehen 🥰

[@smigoltime]

Ersten mal? XD

[@felixg.6493]

@@smigoltime Jawohl, Herr Kaleun :D 🫡

[@AndrewJTCooper-ks1ng]

I don't like how they made the sonar system for destroyers. You should have passive sonar to listen and dial in the sound of subs and have barings on the sonar screen to give an idea direction. And use regular sonar to ping the depth to target.

[@jamesrosewell9081]

And I thought my jokes about it either being Tom Hanks in Greyhound simulator or Das Boot simulator were original

[@shikikankillzone4239]

Meanwhile in World of Warships: *_"I will now ruin the game for literally everybody"_*

[@shaftoe195]

"I thank you, my Heavenly Father That you graciously kept me this day And into your hands I commit myself My body and soul. Amen" (c) cultured players on the American team after winning.

[@JamesJones-qj2up]

this event is great it would be amazing if they added this to the game and allowed depth and fuse types to the uboats and a deck gun imagine the chaos you could cause

[@analniy_deboshir1486]

70meters of depth enought to be in safe

[@joshuaswinarton3274]

Well I’ll say this. I do play the, ‘Das Boot’ soundtrack when I participate in this event xD

[@Zelectrocutica]

60m of drive... I can swim in that depth all day...

[@dawg6408]

I was literally listening to the Das Boot theme (from the series, not the film)

[@SAarumDoK]

Greyhound is such a banger.

[@James-sv2cs]

Did that guy say "contact bearing 4001"? 0:47

[@Cpt-Jamsandwich]

I knew somebody was going to make a video like this ahahah

[@xXd3m0lXx]

potwierdzam, pierwsze co zrobiłem to odpaliłem soundtrack z das boot :)

[@kapitanrex0312]

Well, now one question arises, Das Boot, the director's cut or the complete TV series (1985 version)