Smith Sizes Up Hellmuth

Dan Smith vs Phil Hellmuth Super High Roller Bowl 2016.
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[@lavetha27]

It is amazing that a player of DNeg's caliber makes KZbin videos for us. Thanks!

[@stewiegriffin6503]

He makes videos for self promotion. Not for us.

[@fredwoodocean9623]

Stewie Griffin it’s called win win

[@jugular911]

negreanu is not a good player. he would get destroyed in any small stakes online cash game lineup.

[@rim7115]

@@jugular911 Tell that to millions of dollars in winnings and 6 WSOP bracelets. Seems pretty good at poker

[@n16161]

It really is amazing. He is a great teacher too. I kinda want to check out his masterclass, just for entertainment value if nothing else.

[@CalebShimomura]

Man, i've been playing minecraft for 7 hours straight, and looking at the square shelves behind his head makes me want to mine them out

[@alephnull4044]

Lmao I can't unsee it now

[@belsayshootingground]

I liked Phillips call here, I’ll explain my thought process here; I don’t like Phil.

[@mdougf]

Terrible punctuation

[@belsayshootingground]

Mark F I’ve never been great at the uk language. I also failed maths so many times I can’t even count 😅

[@mdougf]

@@belsayshootingground Okay haha nevermind then. You're good

[@gcsiciliano]

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[@RDSports5]

Its really nice to watch these videos and come away feeling that what Daniel is saying is sort of how you like to think through the scenarios when you're playing. I think I'm an okay player, have played for a long time, but obviously nowhere NEAR the level of even the worst pro. So to know that I actually take the time to think through these scenarios that a master like Daniel Negreanu is talking about, makes me feel like I'm on the right track to being a better player. Awesome vid, thank you Mr. Negreanu

[@zacharysbrennan5376]

This was your best blog yet. Simple to the point, crystal clear message. Thnx

[@Cooldrummer]

Very great breakdown Daniel. You chose a great hand to analyze. I was thinking the same thing about the river. It was a good spot to raise. Thanks again. We are so lucky to have many pros breaking down hands on youtube.

[@MCFoultier]

I hate a raise here, the blocker doesn´t really matter. If Hellmuth had a suited Ace, he´d raise pre instead of checking behind. He could have a mediocre flush, but then you don´t need the ace blocker...

[@frankbattlejr981]

MCFoultier You have to consider this: It’s a good possibility for Dan to have an A 9 or A 7 exactly like he has in his hand. So if Phil correctly puts him on exactly what he has, Phil knows one thing for sure and that’s that the Ace of spades is unaccounted for because it’s in his own hand. So let’s say Phil and Dans Aces were reversed and Dan had the Ace of spades...Then Phil raises him on the river for all the chips....Dan would look at the A of spades and know that’s highly unusual for Phil not to just call and raise all in if he’s really got the flush but he don’t have the Ace high because the Ace is in my hand? You understand now? That Ace of Spades being in Phil’s hand meant a lot because he could make a play on Dan with representing the Ace high flush. I 100% agree with Daniel that your only to plays is a large raise on the river or get out of the hand on the turn or the river because a straight call is more than likely just a straight give away of your chips because there’s nothing you can beat if your Phil.

[@filmuletz]

Please do not let this trolls affecting you. Keep up the good work! I love that you are active both on facebook and youtube. Respect from Romania!

[@alemarioluiginator]

the year of romania

[@fatnose0]

which trolls? he has 95 dislikes everyone loves his vid

[@aleenator]

in season 1 episode 11 of HSP there is a very similar hand between Daniel and Phil hellmuth where Daniel similarly takes Phil to value town with AT vs A4. Phil still playing the same as he did way back then.

[@LEFTaTIP]

G Q, great memory you have there. Yeah, I too remember that, Phil thought both times thought he under repped his hand and that at showdown he would have the superior hand. Thats a classic Hellmuth play trapping amateur players in tournaments unfortunately, Dan Smith and Daniel Negreanu are world class players.

[@readu100]

Thanks Daniel. Yes very lucky to get this free advice from you. I really like your thought process.

[@williamrodriguez1736]

I watch lots and lots of poker content on you tube ... I couldn't help but notice all the subtle / indirect needles toward another channel and I have to say I absolutely loved it !!!!! Stay tuned for poker hands.... high roller hands lol lol ( other players videos get the boot when posting this stuff " Well played Daniel, Well played #BigFishEatsLittleFish

[@superdivinus987]

i love these videos. they are great. especially the part from 6:40 is my favourite, its like looking into the brain of negreanu. wonderful.

[@MCFoultier]

6:45 finally I got an insight what the typical livepro is thinking when they "tank". oddly enough, it´s sufficient in 90%+ of spots.

[@jamesshaw9649]

Daniel is the realest and most original Poker KZbinr! Respect bro

[@rudistorm3348]

Opinions are a lot like ass holes everybody has one.

[@Cheeseguyguyguyy]

Doug Polk is wack, and so are you for commenting this on Daniel's video

[@StephanJClark]

James Shaw Doug Polk has interesting videos it's not a competition

[@Rotttman]

James Shaw pretty classless comment .

[@MurrayHerts]

I think we can all agree if you like poker videos you're a fan of Doug, but lets keep the comments respectful to Daniel who is also making good videos.

[@waylonwood86]

I played with a guy last week here locally in AZ at Talking Stick and he claimed that you used to be a fish back in the day. I asked him what bait he used on you... he was quiet as he gently tossed in 3 dollars for the big blind... hahaha.. told him to shut it down and work on his own game. #respectforthekid

[@ProffezerSuggonDeeznutz]

Beautiful analysis by Daniel. Range wins it all if of course you play experts or at least not helmuith

[@boxermccoy]

you're the man Dan

[@user-gf4jh2yg2p]

Thanks for your videos Daniel ☺You are still the best!

[@JLIV461]

"With a very interesting style"! What a polite euphemism. Gotta love how nice Daniel is. (Still tear up when I think about that story he told about the little boy who got burned so bad in that car accident.)

[@janfreinsheimer8225]

nice to have so many poker content from very different charakters on youtube. I am thankfull as an amateur. Dont know why hating the one or the nother ist just a thing so.

[@wellingtonoliveira3254]

This channel is changing my thinking process. Thank you Daniel!!

[@braydenbernhardt2609]

Hey Daniel, I have a question, and maybe you can touch on this in your next video. What should we do when we're playing cards, if another player is trying to get under your skin, or targeting you? Or what is the best methods of not letting that player get to you?

[@jaywood9415]

Im no KidPoker, but I have had many experiences like this. Just continue to play the way you normally would. Eventually the person targeting you will make a huge mistake (due to playing differently to target you) and you can capitalize. Nothing says fuck you like taking their money.

[@Rhodiac]

@@jaywood9415 yeah exactly. If they're just targeting you most likely they will underthink what other people are doing and make a mistake. It's a glorious moment when the guy that keeps raising you goes bust

[@alexduke6869]

Knock him out

[@cryptoguy24]

Headphones!! Even if they are not playing music. People dont know...

[@jaywood9415]

@@Rhodiac oh its such an awesome feeling. especially when the other players see how calm you are, they will be likely to be on your side and will laugh at the idiot when you take his money.

[@jacksonlawson3718]

Great video Daniel! Keep up the content, I've really been enjoying your channel.

[@leonardocruz2929]

Mestre muito obrigado pelas dicas. Essas dicas valem ouro.

[@Monojoe]

Very mind opening. I love learning!

[@searchingfortruth5295]

Please anytime you feature a video with a Phil Hellmuth blow up let us see all of it 😂. He is so entertaining and knowing since the beginning of the video that he lost this hand, I was looking forward to his fit at the end. All kidding aside, thank you for all the tips and insights, you are my favorite poker channel and player to watch.

[@michalmichura651]

Best way to explain Daniel

[@christopherschulze3922]

Another great video!

[@maxstaa]

great advice Daniel, loving the content!

[@whitejosh444]

Daniel you should make a video on your famous reads and your thought process

[@tylerlee6054]

Weird to see a pro like Phil flat call all those bullets and flats on the river with a weak ace. What does he think he's beating there? The flush got there, maybe a missed straight draw but that's reaching. Smith would have raised a pocket pair that Aces would beat pre-flop. Does Phil really think Smith has A-2 or just a stone bluff? Thanks for the analysis Daniel, really helps me think about potential ranges of opponents based on their bet sizings.

[@edkroketje1]

maybe he thought he would have something like king seven or so.

[@Badbentham]

Feels from outside like a fishy call, as the spade comes in the end. Ax is somewhere to the bottom of Phil`s range here. Blocking an A and the nutz does not feel to be enough. He loses to any 2 pair, a straight, or the flush, so it feels like a rather clear fold to me. He beats random bluffs, and merged hands turned to bluffs ( a 7, 4, or 65/85/53) . All in all, I do not see the 30% Phil needs to call. Without the arriving flush, it certainly would have been a difficult situation. However, I do not know the table dynamics, and if Smith is viewed as a wild spewer.

[@ekw555]

yeah, it's amazing how many bracelets he has won with such terrible play. freaking luckbox. /sarcasm

[@michaelchung1526]

Not a pro, just a fish trying to learn and get better but would K7 bet all 3 streets? By the River, a K7 would be nothing but a bluff catcher and you would think Smith would shut down at some point. Phil only beats 3 barrel air hands and all worse pairs that probably wouldn't bet 3 times. A question would be would this be a good call if the flush didn't come in on the river and you could count a large number of missed spades draws that Smith would bet flop, and turn with and then fire on the river as a bluff.

[@Badbentham]

I do not know whether it is exactly a great idea to merge K7 in this situation, but it is clearly always sth to keep in mind. And, well, it is a limped BvB spot, so ranges are as wide as they can get. So, it gets in general a pretty clear call when the flush misses , and villain way overbluffs his whole busted draws. The interesting question arises what his bluffing frequency should look like to prevent us from exploiting his over-aggressive betting patterns. However, it was an unraised pot pre, so he really should keep his aggression at bay, and for said reason , especially against passive or unknown players, one can still at times find a pretty tight fold. So, arguably, you want to call most (80% +) of the time, giving payout to AT+ (clear thin value in a blind battle) / 2pair+, and want to fold if you get "that gut feeling".

[@FishFighterFred]

Hey Daniel, I love your videos, just a little idea. Towards the end there you played the end of the hand while still talking. Kinda distracting, especially because we missed Phil's rage! Keep it up fella

[@abusepotential7071]

I sorta wish he spent MORE time talking while letting the videos play -- it's more fun to see the table play, people thinking about their position, get to see the board and the hole cards while he's doing his analysis (instead of a quick clip of the board and then back to him). I'd even take him talking a bit over freeze frames of the game to hit a point home. Also I imagine like everyone else Daniel might be annoyed at this point by Phil's constant whining and minging and playing the victim after he BADLY loses another hand he never had in the first place.

[@fred_derf]

So go watch the hand on Poker Central. This is a hand breakdown.

[@delg1211]

@@fred_derf Pow!

[@Zoaping]

Why is everyone saying polk makes better videos? Daniels videos are awesome who cares about whos "best"

[@petrilampilahti5176]

Great advices Dan! Thank u so much!

[@marcjtdc]

Thanks

[@Josho4096]

Daniel this is 2nd video I've seen. Keep up the great work. You are spot on with the context you provided. Without it it woudlve been dif. The fact Mr H. Has been.

[@marcussantos7682]

Daniel, I miss Poker VT so much! These videos you are making are a good form of replace, but... wow, how I miss VT´s team and your lessons! :(

[@honeybadger2171]

i enjoy listening to you're advise it helped me in a major way.

[@ardaozcan9303]

Keep them coming please. Very great valuable information

[@slhugues]

Hello from Brazil Daniel. Thinking over here If you could make a video about a common situation in live one day Poker tournaments over here. Most hands have a couple of limps or more before my turn to act, so even sizing up the bet at least 4 players will see the flop. How to deal with that? How to create a good range for raise in tables playing the limp/call? Keep up the good work.

[@wyndeljadeabiertas5642]

Daniel, you are my poker god. Love from Philippines! 😊

[@nikolaygannev4294]

Nice hand and analysis! I agree that calling is the worst option and it serves as a bluff catcher only, and the way the hand played out - 3 barrel bluffing is less possible in that spot. I'd like only to add that at Phil's river decision I'd look at Dan for any physical tells and try to pick something. Also it's important player's profile - how much does he like to bet his draws on the flop and turn, and also it matters if he is capable of folding strong hands like 2 pair or a set to a river raise! if Phil had a read on Dan that he did not have a flush, he can definitely raise, but I'd make it at least 650k to get the job done. Of course he commits that way a big portion of his stack, but if he had a tight image that would have worked high percentage.

[@opiesports]

Big fan! Great video

[@retha8912]

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[@TheMounthood]

Dan, I did what you suggested the other day pretended that I have a flush when I didn't. My image was a strong player and during that hand I presented I had a strong hand. Raised as much as the pot in river (bluffed), and the other guy called with his straight!

[@jolaz69]

Good content. I just have to remember when I'm in a poker tournament to take a minute and think about what's going on.

[@Da1337DoOD]

Hey Daniel, there was a Hellmuth vs Farha hand where Hellmuth had QQ vs K7o for top pair at S04E08 at High stakes poker. OTR Sammy value bet his top pair and Hellmuth had 2 blockers to the open ender OTF. Would be cool to talk about it! :)

[@davidstevens3934]

Love how Hellmuth shows the ace to make out like he had him crushed pre flop and acts like he got unlucky. You're really mad at yourself Phil.

[@robdawg99]

Great video Dan! Keep them coming!

[@raoufmadrid5909]

froom algeria all of respect to you daniel ,,,,and i love phill break down hahaha

[@matthewmauldon9219]

Super lucky!! Love these detailed breakdowns

[@bbbulldog61]

Another great breakdown. Thanks.

[@IHASMULLAH]

you da man Dan

[@yyzbogdan2680]

Yes, we are lucky Daniel! Always enjoy your commentary. Keep up the great work and greetings from Toronto!

[@joonas9525]

Hi, Daniel i just got your book today :-)

[@TheJinxPadlock]

Decent video Dan. Do more vlogs bud. Hollywood one was great.

[@beorlingo]

When I play bad, it's so often about only considering two out of three options. I think Daniel is stressing something very crucial. Always to consider all your options. Might seem obvious, but when playing it can happen that you don't.

[@chillian12]

I think it would be a good idea to do some poker hands featuring Doug Polk! Heard you guys are best friends he mentions you often in his videos!

[@marceloimperialjr7502]

+DanielNegreanu Daniel if you were in Phil's shoes and you do decide to raise: how much should the raise be, and would a shove has been the worst move?

[@marceloimperialjr7502]

+DanielNegreanu I can see that if Phil wanted would he have bet turn then shove river. Would that have made more sense??? Or was dan going to station Phil with top 2 at that point before the jack came. Could Phil have rep. Spades ♠️ on the turn or was difficult Daniel?

[@24magiccarrot]

It's a hard hand to analyze properly though if these two have been playing at the same table for a while, in blind v blind battles a lot of meta game theory comes in to play, there was also no pre-flop raise so both players are pretty much playing their entire range barring a few premium hands that would probably have raised unless they were trying to get cute. Also Smith could be barreling with a pair of 7's rag kicker in order to prevent Hellmuth from floating on any street because you can guarantee if Smith checks any street after the flop Phil is betting and he's betting with a lot worse hands than Aces. Hellmuth has played the hand in such a way that it would be difficult to put him on an Ace so he probably figures that smith could be 3 barrel bluffing on a well connected board. He'd certainly play some medium sized pocket pairs this way. He might even play 7-2 or 4-2 this way and the bet on the river looks like a blocker bet against small flushes. Because the bet on the river looks and feels like a blocker bet the case for raising certainly seems optimal, it would likely push out all Ace rag and medium pocket pair hands (which I know he was beating anyway), and certainly give 2 pair a hard decision to make.

[@coryabdalla7366]

I dont know if hellmuth is checking suited aces in the bb seems like a good hand to raise. Plus Dan can have hands like q6, q8, k6, k8 with the k or q of spades.

[@Rotttman]

love your video's Daniel

[@StephanJClark]

RedneckRectum I would like your comment but that name is ???

[@Rotttman]

I don't need your like bro. It's a body part. Get over it.

[@Rotttman]

JonBenait06 feel better now?

[@Rotttman]

There is no hyphen needed in your sentence. The quotations are not needed. Imagine if little fuckwits followed you around all day correcting your grammar. Get a life.

[@NovaRack]

Thank you Dan. Ignore the haters.

[@spookayookay262]

Good job D-Negs

[@snowhusk]

The lesson I learned from this video is that watching Phil flip out because of his own baf plays is a wholesome entertainment in itslef

[@topofladder]

im actually amazed that helmuth didnt respresent a flush seeing how he has the Ace of spades

[@fabiogaucho77]

Plese do more videos with breakdowns. But it would be cooler if you made a playlist with those, since your channel has a lot of different stuff.

[@gregoriocorrea4867]

Well put Daniel !!!!!

[@midda33]

Daniel, hoping to get your thoughts on this. I agree that calling the river is the worst option here. But if you do rep a flush what would be a good bet sizing? Because dan smith bet 200k so if you raise that we talking what 600-700k bet? Then you only have about 400-500k left behind. I guess my question is; what bet sizing would be enough to get dan smith to fold two pair here, and is it really worth betting a significant portion of your chips here with a bluff?

[@midda33]

Daniel Negreanu thanks for the quick reply! And keep up the videos and podcast 👍🏻

[@dealerG]

+Daniel Negreanu It's just bad play on Phil's part, he should be bluffing here almost 100% of the time. Smith can almost never have a lone flush draw with this line so he is automatically capped at an 8 high flush since Phil holds the nut blocker, and that is assuming Smith barrels 85 otherwise that's only 1 combo of 86s that Smith can have, along with 56s, 23s and 35s...just FOUR flushes in his range. The fact Smith is capped at an 8 high flush wipes out ALL of the hands Smith can river bet-call and beat Phil's value raise hands with, leaving Smith's holdings as 100% bluff catchers. Even if Smith calls with any flush, Phil would still be folding out almost 3x as many hands in the 1 combo of AA and the 12 combos of 44 and 77. It's 100% a raise Daniel.

[@richardlefaive1944]

Agreed. A riv re-raise from phil looks very strong given his line . It doesn't evennhave to b all in or even pot ! while smith perhaps finds a call 25% of the time .... that's the max and the riv reraise bluff here is the most profitable move.

[@llsrrll6930]

thx for the vids Daniel great stuff

[@OldieBones]

What do you think an appropriate bluff size would be there? It'd be tough to fold two pair to anything suspicious.

[@jamiekilburn6165]

Hey Daniel, I just wanted to say your videos are really insightful. Out of curiosity, do you ever play in the GTA?

[@Fernando-uo4nq]

This format is more fun to watch than dougs

[@TRADERX1231]

Excellent !

[@greybeard804]

I'd like to see you play in a $1 sit and go and see how you do with them donks.. A whole norther ballgame.

[@TonyEnglandUK]

Dan, I doubt you'll see this but there's something very wrong here. Your video right here has a third of a million views. Yet only 5 thousand people have thumbed it up and KZbin thinks nobody has commented on it for 8 months. If you do see this comment, I'd highly recommend you comment a lot on your own videos - if you don't, KZbin has some bizarre problem that means nobody can see those videos without searching the abyss for them.

[@carloos24]

go daniel !! where did you buy your shirt ?

[@Neimos1]

Does it make sense really - He would have raised pre- with Axs, no? - Or on the flop with a flush draw with top pair. I think, it is hard to believe and raising here would be a bad option as the hand didn't play like it by any means.

[@McGavel1]

Great tips, thanks again! Keep up the good work - have fun - peace.

[@thearoom]

Thanks Daniel I like the price

[@Brentster1953]

There are so many videos demonstrating how Hellmuth is a first class jerk. It's as if he has become every person's persona that he has insulted, over the years. Lose a hand, get up from the table, swear, rant and rave. "How can he even call me with that hand?" I'm the expert here not you!!! And, just for effect LOL LOL LOL also it's funny to see you, Daniel, grin and laugh it up!

[@MrDprociak]

Hi, Daniel I saw your wsop bracelet displays and was wondering where I could get one? I only need one because I'm not as good as you yet :)

[@keenanmartens]

Phil should be jam bluffing all of his As2x and As3x that check preflop . Then folding his the rest. That would give him 6 bluffs OTR, which is plenty.

[@jb90467]

the high roller bowl 2k17 will be livestreamed on twitch? i'm hyped

[@itsthizzbaby]

great vid thanks danny

[@di888li]

Always laugh when Hellmuth says f*ck hahahaha

[@DaSoulSlasher]

Daniel what do you think of Hellmuth's beer

[@kinggkuppa]

thank you

[@samjonathan1190]

Hi sir can I ask you about zynga poker game it is good game or you are play it

[@arsenalfanrichi]

I guess, looking at it from Smith's side, could he have looked at it, like Hellmuth raised, called, called, he might have been holding a flush draw, right? If Hellmuth goes all in on the River does he fold? Or am I wrong?

[@raymondarmatino1829]

just a warning. becareful with copyright. you cant just use other peoples content then put it on your channel and make money advertising on it.

[@lovetownsend]

Pimpin in the back casually with every poker trophy imaginable lol

[@cmactual]

Phil convinced himself he had two spades when he quick called the turn to represent he had a flush draw. #raisetheriverphil!

[@dennisrossonero]

I don't know much about poker, but any highlights i've seen on the internet, it looks like Hellmuth is always just gambling without any actual knowledge. I'm sure i'm wrong, but that's what it looks like.

[@cervgiovanni]

You spoke alot here

[@ramonrodriguez7591]

It does boil down to they either have it or they don't!

[@ipadsforautism]

I thought poker central went out of business

[@chadradge9460]

hey daniel great video, ive watched so much of your live play and think that youre great! id love to see some videos of you explaining some of your great folds and reads and how you came to those conclusions! Great job with the videos

[@326sailingships]

I don't consider Hellmuth in the same league as most of the players we see him up against.

[@lee_badda]

What do you mean by balance???

[@bbbulldog61]

After thinking about it I think you have to know how often Phil can move him off a hand better than Ace 3. To say calling is worse than raising.